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Requested moves is a process for requesting the retitling (moving) of an article, template, or project page on Wikipedia. For retitling files, categories and other items, see When not to use this page.
Please read the article titling policy and the guideline regarding primary topics before moving a page or requesting a page move.
Any autoconfirmed user can use the Move function to perform most moves (see Help:How to move a page). If you have no reason to expect a dispute concerning a move, be bold and move the page. However, it may not always be possible or desirable to do this:
- Technical reasons may prevent a move; for example, a page may already exist at the target title and require deletion, or the page may be protected from moves. See: § Requesting technical moves.
- Requests to revert recent, undiscussed, controversial moves may be made at WP:RM/TR. If the new name has not become the stable title, the undiscussed move will be reverted. If the new name has become the stable title, a requested move will be needed to determine the article's proper location.
- A title may be disputed, and discussion may be necessary to reach consensus: see § Requesting controversial and potentially controversial moves. The requested moves process is not mandatory, and sometimes an informal discussion at the article's talk page can help reach consensus.
- A page should not be moved and a new move discussion should not be opened when there is already an open move request on a talk page. Instead, please participate in the open discussion.
- Unregistered and new (not yet autoconfirmed) users are unable to move pages.
Requests are generally processed after seven days. If consensus to move the page is reached at or after this time, a reviewer will carry out the request. If there is a consensus not to move the page, the request will be closed as "not moved". When consensus remains unclear, the request may be relisted to allow more time for consensus to develop, or the discussion may be closed as "no consensus". See Wikipedia:Requested moves/Closing instructions for more details on the process.
Wikipedia:Move review can be used to contest the outcome of a move request as long as all steps are followed. If a discussion on the closer's talk page does not resolve an issue, then a move review will evaluate the close of the move discussion to determine whether or not the contested close was reasonable and consistent with the spirit and intent of common practice, policies, and guidelines.
When not to use this page
Separate processes exist for moving certain types of pages, and for changes other than page moves:
- Making an uncontroversial move – if you can, be bold and do it yourself! If you can't, see § Requesting technical moves.
- Renaming a category – propose the move at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion.
- Renaming a stub template – propose the move at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion.
- Renaming an image or other file – see Wikipedia:Moving a page § Moving a file page.
- Moves from draft namespace or user space to article space – Unconfirmed users: add
{{subst:submit}}
to the top of the article. See Wikipedia:Articles for creation. Confirmed users: Move the page yourself. - Merging two articles – make a request at Wikipedia:Proposed mergers, or be bold and do it yourself.
- Splitting an article – make a request at Wikipedia:Proposed article splits, or be bold and do it yourself.
- Requesting that page histories be merged – list them at Wikipedia:Requests for history merge.
- Contesting a move request close – use the Wikipedia:Move review process.
Undiscussed moves
Autoconfirmed editors may move a page without discussion if all of the following apply:
- No article exists at the new target title;
- There has been no previous discussion about the title of the page that expressed any objection to a new title; and
- It seems unlikely that anyone would reasonably disagree with the move.
If you disagree with a prior bold move, and the new title has not been in place for a long time, you may revert the move yourself. If you cannot revert the move for technical reasons, then you may request a technical move.
Move wars are disruptive, so if you make a bold move and it is reverted, do not make the move again. Instead, follow the procedures laid out in § Requesting controversial and potentially controversial moves.
Requesting technical moves
If you are unable to complete a move for technical reasons, you can request technical help below. This is the correct method if you tried to move a page, but you got an error message saying something like "You do not have permission to move this page, for the following reasons:..." or "The/This page could not be moved, for the following reason:..."
If you are here because you want an admin to approve of your new article or your proposed page move, you are in the wrong place.
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- To list a technical request: Uncontroversial technical requests subsection and insert the following code at the bottom of the list, filling in pages and reason:
This will automatically insert a bullet and include your signature. Please do not edit the article's talk page.{{subst:RMassist|current page title|new title|reason=edit summary for the move}}
the - If you object to a proposal listed in the uncontroversial technical requests section, please move the request to the Contested technical requests section, append a note on the request elaborating on why, and sign with ~~~~. Consider pinging the requester to let them know about the objection.
- If your technical request is contested, or if a contested request is left untouched without reply, create a requested move on the article talk and remove the request from the section here. The fastest and easiest way is to click the "discuss" button at the request, save the talk page, and remove the entry on this page.
Technical requests
Uncontroversial technical requests
- LSD (LSD album) → Labrinth, Sia & Diplo Present... LSD (currently a redirect back to LSD (LSD album)) (move · discuss) – Full title can be used to avoid disambiguator. Aside from Pitchfork's review, most sources about the album use its full title or a variation thereof. Miklogfeather (talk) 21:57, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
- Superposition (disambiguation → Superposition (disambiguation) (currently a redirect instead to Superposition) (move · discuss) – typo – Closed Limelike Curves (talk) 02:58, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
Requests to revert undiscussed moves
- Government of CataIonia → Generalitat de Catalunya (currently a redirect back to Government of CataIonia) (move · discuss) – (a) It was moved to a typo: the fifth letter of "Catalonia" has been typed as "I" not "l"; (b) No discussion of this erroneous move from 6 days ago. The Catalan name, "Generalitat de Catalunya", is widely used in English sources and is, in effect, a term of art in English for the institution. No evidence that it is not the WP:COMMONNAME. DeCausa (talk) 21:29, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
Contested technical requests
- Frisch's → Frisch's Big Boy (currently a redirect back to Frisch's) (move · discuss) – Frisch's Big Boy is the official name of the chain, and Frisch's is only the shorthand. JrStudios The Wikipedian (talk) 23:29, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
- Disagree. "Officialness" is not the deciding factor for Wikipedia titles; see WP:OFFICIAL. There should be a full discussion of this, not just an undiscussed move. — BarrelProof (talk) 01:37, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
- Delhi University → University of Delhi (currently a redirect back to Delhi University) (move · discuss) – Wikipedia says- "Delhi University (DU, ISO: Dillī Viśvavidyālaya), formally the University of Delhi" but in reality the name is and was always 'University of Delhi' as you can see at official Website of university - https://www.du.ac.in/ and you will not find any reference that says "University of Delhi is renamed as Delhi University". So please change wikipedia page title and mistake at wikipedia page. It is, it was always named 'University of Delhi'. 14.139.183.119 (talk) 21:23, 26 August 2024 (UTC)
- Previous RM discussions: Talk:Delhi University/Archive 1#Requested move 8 October 2020 and Requested move 6 April 2021. Rotideypoc41352 (talk · contribs) 22:54, 26 August 2024 (UTC)
- Per old RM's and most sources use "University of Delhi" as WP:COMMONNAME, I'm inclined to move if there're no valid arguments against. - FlightTime (open channel) 17:28, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
- The old RMs didn't decide to use "University of Delhi". This move is potentially controversial, so it would require a new requested-move discussion. SilverLocust 💬 19:21, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
- Per old RM's and most sources use "University of Delhi" as WP:COMMONNAME, I'm inclined to move if there're no valid arguments against. - FlightTime (open channel) 17:28, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
- Previous RM discussions: Talk:Delhi University/Archive 1#Requested move 8 October 2020 and Requested move 6 April 2021. Rotideypoc41352 (talk · contribs) 22:54, 26 August 2024 (UTC)
- Władysław Król Stadium → Władysław Król Municipal Stadium (currently a redirect back to Władysław Król Stadium) (move · discuss) – This is the official name of the stadium in English, as stated by the source. Paradygmaty (talk) 10:20, 28 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Paradygmaty See WP:OFFICIALNAME. Wikipedia articles are titles based on what the subject is commonly called, not its official name. --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 12:45, 28 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Paradygmaty See WP:OFFICIALNAME. Wikipedia articles are titles based on what the subject is commonly called, not its official name. --Ahecht (TALK
- Devin Taylor (wrestler) → Brittany Fetkin (currently a redirect back to Devin Taylor (wrestler)) (move · discuss) – Hasn't gone by the Devin Taylor name since 2015. She then went by her birth name during a brief stint on the independents as well as appearing on The Bachelor, before returning to college to finish her studies. APM (talk) 15:39, 28 August 2024 (UTC)
- But is she notable as Brittany Fetkin? At first glance, it would appear that she isn't. 162 etc. (talk) 15:57, 28 August 2024 (UTC)
- Yeah, I think you're right. There isn't much to go on, apart from a small role in a short film named Slasher Fest '85 and some modelling work (likely uncredited). Given her wrestling career didn't last long (19 matches), and she is better known as a backstage interviewer, might I suggest "Devin Taylor (wrestling)" as the article name instead, à la Michael Cole? APM (talk) 20:45, 28 August 2024 (UTC)
- @AmorPatiturMoras "Devin Taylor" still appears to be the common name. Even sources as recent as 2021 still use the ring name. C F A 💬 16:55, 28 August 2024 (UTC)
- National Film Award for Best Short Film → National Film Award for Best Short Film (Up to 30 Min) (currently a redirect back to National Film Award for Best Short Film) (move · discuss) – No explanation. It's part of the title as per official sources: Ministry of Information & Broadcasting's memorandum (pg. 9), government press release and X handle. 117.230.91.165 (talk) 07:50, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
- See WP:OFFICIALNAME. Wikipedia doesn't always use the official name, but instead prefers the commonly used name. In this case, the parenthetical is unnecessary disambiguation. --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 13:39, 29 August 2024 (UTC)- Ahecht. It's not the common name either. Common name is "National Film Award for Best Short Fiction Film", which was moved recently as the name changed. So, according to your own rationale, it should be reverted back to the former common name anyway. But then, we have WP:NAMECHANGES, the new name is "National Film Award for Best Short Film (Up to 30 Min)". 117.230.83.99 (talk) 08:56, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
- See WP:OFFICIALNAME. Wikipedia doesn't always use the official name, but instead prefers the commonly used name. In this case, the parenthetical is unnecessary disambiguation. --Ahecht (TALK
- Metso → Metso (1990-2020) (move · discuss) – At its current form, opening up the wikipedia page of Metso, one could mistakenly think Metso is a company that no longer exists, which is not true. The main article under the name "Metso" should point to the currently existing major company. The historical company should be moved under a name with the years in the article name. 2800:200:E8D0:14A9:7EB8:8F37:9DF1:7A9 (talk) 02:19, 26 August 2024 (UTC)
- Metso (2020–present) → Metso (move · discuss) – see above 2800:200:E8D0:14A9:7EB8:8F37:9DF1:7A9 (talk) 02:19, 26 August 2024 (UTC)
- Primary topic swaps are, by definition, not uncontroversial. 162 etc. (talk) 03:31, 26 August 2024 (UTC)
- My request was removed. I added it back here, because I see no logic in not completing the move. It only makes sense that the page "Metso" directs to the currently existing company of that name of 17 000 employees. 190.236.13.149 (talk) 03:59, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
- Whether the company is currently in business or not isn't a determining factor. See WP:DPT. 162 etc. (talk) 07:17, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
- My request was removed. I added it back here, because I see no logic in not completing the move. It only makes sense that the page "Metso" directs to the currently existing company of that name of 17 000 employees. 190.236.13.149 (talk) 03:59, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
- Primary topic swaps are, by definition, not uncontroversial. 162 etc. (talk) 03:31, 26 August 2024 (UTC)
- Global Information Network → Kevin Trudeau's Global Information Network (GIN) (move · discuss) – Global Information Network already exists Grad0507 (talk) 14:07, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Grad0507 I'm assuming you mean to ask us to move Draft:Global Information Network to Kevin Trudeau's Global Information Network (GIN), there are a couple of issues with that - the draft is promotional and needs to be written in an encyclopedic format (Help:YFA is a good place to start looking for details about our policies and standards), and the sources don't appear to meet WP:GNG, our notability guideline, additional reliable sources are needed. Our coverage of Kevin Trudeau refers to GIN as defunct, which might need adjustment, and I have found a copyright violation in the draft which will be removed shortly.
- I recommend you ensure the article meets our standards and submit it for a review at WP:AFC to ensure it is retained. ASUKITE 14:45, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, the draft is quite lacking in secondary source citations. 162 etc. (talk) 15:24, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
- I will be able to get around to reading these articles Sunday morning at the earliest. Grad0507 (talk) 15:41, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, the draft is quite lacking in secondary source citations. 162 etc. (talk) 15:24, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
- GTB Nagar monorail station → Guru Tegh Bahadur Nagar monorail station (currently a redirect back to GTB Nagar monorail station) (move · discuss) – it exists with full name, not in short form 103.185.174.130 (talk) 18:03, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
- See WP:COMMONNAME. Wikipedia uses the commonly-used names for article titles, even if they're not the official names, and news websites such as [6] seem to be using "GTB". --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 19:16, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
- See WP:COMMONNAME. Wikipedia uses the commonly-used names for article titles, even if they're not the official names, and news websites such as [6] seem to be using "GTB". --Ahecht (TALK
Administrator needed
The discussion process is used for potentially controversial moves. A move is potentially controversial if either of the following applies:
- there has been any past debate about the best title for the page;
- someone could reasonably disagree with the move.
Use this process if there is any reason to believe a move would be contested. For technical move requests, such as to correct obvious typographical errors, see Requesting technical moves. The technical moves procedure can also be used for uncontroversial moves when the requested title is occupied by an existing article.
Do not create a new move request when one is already open on the same talk page. Instead, consider contributing to the open discussion if you would like to propose another alternative. Multiple closed move requests may be on the same page, but each should have a unique section heading.
Do not create a move request to rename one or more redirects. Redirects cannot be used as current titles in requested moves.
Requesting a single page move
To request a single page move, click on the "New section" (or "Add topic") tab of the talk page of the article you want moved, without adding a new subject/header, inserting this code:
{{subst:requested move|New name|reason=Place here your rationale for the proposed page name change, ideally referring to applicable naming convention policies and guidelines, and providing evidence in support where appropriate. If your reasoning includes search engine results, please prioritize searches limited to reliable sources (e.g. books, news, scholarly papers) over other web results. You don't need to add your signature at the end, as this template will do so automatically.}}
Replace New name
with the requested new name of the page (or with a simple question mark, if you want more than one possible new name to be considered). The template will automatically create the heading "Requested move 31 August 2024" and sign the post for you.
There is no need to edit the article in question. Once the above code is added to the Talk page, a bot will automatically add the following notification at the top of the affected page:
A request that this page title be changed is under discussion. Please do not move this page until the discussion is closed. |
Unlike other request processes on Wikipedia, such as Requests for comment, nominations need not be neutral. Make your point as best you can; use evidence (such as Google Ngrams and pageview statistics) and refer to applicable policies and guidelines, especially our article titling policy and the guideline on disambiguation and primary topics.
WikiProjects may subscribe to Article alerts to receive RM notifications. For example, Wikipedia:WikiProject Biography/Article alerts/Requested moves is transcluded to Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Biography. RMCD bot notifies many of the other Wikiprojects listed on the talk page of the article to be moved to invite project members to participate in the RM discussion. Requesters should feel free to notify any other Wikiproject or noticeboard that might be interested in the move request, as long as this notification is neutral.
Single page move on a different talk page
Occasionally, a move request must be made on a talk page other than the talk page of the page to be moved. For example, a request to rename Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Resources to Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Reviewing and templates would need to take place at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Articles for creation because the talk page of the project page to be moved, Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Articles for creation/Resources, is a redirect to that centralized discussion page. In this type of case, the requested move should be made using the following code:
{{subst:requested move|reason=(the reason for the page move goes here).|current1=(present title of page to be renamed)|new1=(proposed title of page)}}
The |1=
unnamed parameter is not used. The |current1=
and |new1=
parameters are used similar to multiple page moves described below.
Requesting multiple page moves
A single template may be used to request multiple related moves. On one of the talk pages of the affected pages, create a request and format it as below. A sample request for three page moves is shown here (for two page moves, omit the lines for current3 and new3). For four page moves, add lines for current4 and new4, and so on. There is no technical limit on the number of multiple move requests, but before requesting very large multi-moves, consider whether a naming convention should be changed first. Discuss that change on the talk page for the naming convention, e.g., Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (sportspeople).
To request a multiple page move, edit at the bottom of the talk page of the article you chose for your request, without adding a new header, inserting this code:
{{subst:requested move
| current1 = Current title of page 1
| new1 = New title for page 1 with the talk page hosting this discussion
| current2 = Current title of page 2
| new2 = New title for page 2
| current3 = Current title of page 3
| new3 = New title for page 3
| reason = Place here your rationale for the proposed page name change, ideally referring to applicable naming convention policies and guidelines, and providing evidence in support where appropriate. If your reasoning includes search engine results, please prioritize searches limited to reliable sources (e.g. books, news, scholarly papers) over other web results. You don't need to add your signature at the end, as this template will do so automatically.
}}
For example, to propose moving the articles Wikipedia
and Wiki
, put this template on Talk:Wikipedia
with current1
set to Wikipedia
and current2
set to Wiki
. The discussion for all affected articles is held on the talk page of the article where the template is placed (Talk:Wikipedia
). Do not sign the request with ~~~~
, since the template does this automatically (so if you sign it yourself there will be two copies of your signature at the end of the request). Do not skip pairs of numbers.
RMCD bot automatically places a notice section on the talk page of all pages that are included in your request except the one hosting the discussion, to call attention to the move discussion that is in progress and to suggest that all discussion for all of the pages included in the request should take place at that one hosting location.
For multi-move discussions hosted on a page which is itself proposed to be moved, it is not necessary to include the |current1=Current title of page 1
for the page hosting the discussion, as its current title can be inferred automatically. Occasionally the discussions for significant multi-move requests may be hosted on WikiProject talk pages or other pages in Project namespace, in which case it is necessary to include |current1=
to indicate the first article to be moved.
Request all associated moves explicitly
Please list every move that you wish to have made in your request. For example, if you wish to move Cricket (disambiguation) to Cricket because you do not believe the sport is the primary topic for the search term "Cricket", then you actually want to move two pages, both Cricket (disambiguation) and Cricket. Thus you must list proposed titles for each page affected by your request. For example, you might propose:
If a new title is not proposed for the sport, it is more difficult to achieve consensus for a new title for that article. A move request that does not show what to do with the material at its proposed target, such as:
is incomplete. Such requests may be completed as a request to decide the best new title by discussion.
- Cricket → ?
If a disambiguation page is in the way of a move, the request may be completed as proposing to add (disambiguation).
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{{subst:Requested move|new|reason=why}} |
Requested move 31 August 2024
Wikipedia:Requested moves → New – why Example (talk) 02:59, 31 August 2024 (UTC) | |||
{{subst:Requested move|?|reason=why}} |
Requested move 31 August 2024
Wikipedia:Requested moves → ? – why Example (talk) 02:59, 31 August 2024 (UTC) | |||
{{subst:Requested move|new|reason=why|talk=yes}} |
Requested move 31 August 2024
Wikipedia:Requested moves → New – why Example (talk) 02:59, 31 August 2024 (UTC) Survey
Discussion
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{{subst:Requested move|new1=x|current2=y|new2=z|reason=why}} |
Requested move 31 August 2024
– why Example (talk) 02:59, 31 August 2024 (UTC) | |||
{{subst:Requested move|new1=?|current2=y|new2=?|reason=why}} |
Requested move 31 August 2024
– why Example (talk) 02:59, 31 August 2024 (UTC) |
Commenting on a requested move
All editors are welcome to contribute to the discussion regarding a requested page move. There are a number of standards that Wikipedians should practice in such discussions:
- When editors recommend a course of action, they write Support or Oppose in bold text, which is done by surrounding the word with three single quotes on each side, e.g.
'''Support'''
. - Comments or recommendations are added on a new bulleted line (that is, starting with *) and signed by adding
~~~~
to the end. Responses to another editor are threaded and indented using multiple bullets. - The article itself should be reviewed before any recommendation is made; do not base recommendations solely on the information supplied by other editors. It may also help to look at the article's edit history. However, please read the earlier comments and recommendations, as well as prior move requests. They may contain relevant arguments and useful information.
- Vested interests in the article should be disclosed per Wikipedia:Conflict of interest § How to disclose a COI.
When participating, please consider the following:
- Editors should make themselves familiar with the article titling policy at Wikipedia:Article titles.
- Other important guidelines that set forth community norms for article titles include Wikipedia:Disambiguation, specific naming conventions, and the manual of style.
- The debate is not a vote; please do not make recommendations that are not sustained by arguments.
- Explain how the proposed article title meets or contravenes policy and guidelines rather than merely stating that it does so.
- Nomination already implies that the nominator supports the name change, and nominators should refrain from repeating this recommendation on a separate bulleted line.[a]
- Do not make conflicting recommendations. If you change your mind, use strike-through to retract your previous statement by enclosing it between <s> and </s> after the bullets, and de-bold the struck words, as in "•
SupportOppose".
Please remember that reasonable editors will sometimes disagree, but that arguments based in policy, guidelines, and evidence have more weight than unsupported statements. When an editor offers an argument that does not explain how the move request is consistent with policies and guidelines, a reminder to engage in constructive, on-topic discussion may be useful. On the other hand, a pattern of responding to requests with groundless opinion, proof by assertion, and ignoring content guidelines may become disruptive. If a pattern of disruptive behavior persists after efforts are made to correct the situation through dialogue, please consider using a dispute resolution process.
Closing a requested move
Any uninvolved editor in good standing may close a move request. Please read the closing instructions for information on how to close a move request. The Simple guide to closing RM discussions details how to actually close a requested move discussion.
Relisting a requested move
Relisting a discussion moves the request out of the backlog up to the current day in order to encourage further input. The decision to relist a discussion is best left to uninvolved experienced editors upon considering, but declining, to close the discussion. In general, discussions should not be relisted more than once before properly closing.[b] Users relisting a debate which has already been relisted, or relisting a debate with a substantial discussion, should write a short explanation on why they did not consider the debate sufficient to close. While there is no consensus forbidding participation in a requested move discussion after relisting it, many editors consider it an inadvisable form of supervote. If you want to relist a discussion and then participate in it, be prepared to explain why you think it was appropriate.
Relisting should be done using {{subst:RM relist}}
, which automatically includes the relister's signature, and which must be placed at the very end of the initial request after the move requester's signature (and subsequent relisters' signatures).
When a relisted discussion reaches a resolution, it may be closed at any time according to the closing instructions; there is no required length of time to wait before closing a relisted discussion.
If discussion has become stale, or it seems that discussion would benefit from more input of editors versed in the subject area, consider more widely publicizing the discussion, such as by notifying WikiProjects of the discussion using the template {{RM notification}}. Banners placed at the top of the talk page hosting the move request can often be used to identify WikiProjects suitable for notification.
Notes
- ^ A nominator making a procedural nomination with which they may not agree is free to add a bulleted line explaining their actual position. Additional detail, such as sources, may also be provided in an additional bullet point if its inclusion in the nomination statement would make the statement unwieldy. Please remember that the entire nomination statement appears on the list on this page.
- ^ Despite this, discussions are occasionally relisted more than once.
- This section lists all requests filed or identified as potentially controversial which are currently under discussion.
Do not attempt to edit this list manually; a bot will automatically update the page soon after the {{subst:Requested move}} template is added to the discussion on the relevant talk page. The entry is removed automatically soon after the discussion is closed. To make a change to an entry, make the change on the linked talk page. |
This list is also available in a page-link-first format and in table format. 78 discussions have been relisted.
August 31, 2024
- (Discuss) – Our Song → Our Song (disambiguation) – Clear WP:PRIMARYTOPIC per pageviews. JohnCWiesenthal (talk) 21:00, 23 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. RodRabelo7 (talk) 01:46, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Neuromorphic engineering → Neuromorphic computing – WP:COMMONNAME. The current article title is "Neuromorphic engineering" but the opening sentence talks about "neuromorphic computing". An Ngram comparison confirms that "neuromorphic computing" is a much more commonly used term. The suggested target has redirected to this article since it was created in 2011. The word "computing" is used three times in the first two paragraphs, while "engineering" isn't mentioned until the third paragraph. — BarrelProof (talk) 00:19, 24 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. RodRabelo7 (talk) 01:42, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Wooden architecture of Russia → Russian wooden architecture – the page is a translation of ru:Русское деревянное зодчество, which is "Russian wooden arcitecture. The article is about the Russian historical tradition ow wooden architecture and the subject is not geographically limited. If you look eg. into ru:Категория:Русские деревянные церкви there wooden churches of Russian style elsewhere --Altenmann >talk 01:03, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Shelter → Shelter (disambiguation) – This is the clear primary topic of the term shelter. Not sure why the dab page is formatted as if it is. Interstellarity (talk) 00:39, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
August 30, 2024
- (Discuss) – Jan Działyński (1590-1648) → Jan Działyński (Polish noble, born 1590) – For WP:NCPDAB and hyphenated date range fix. See Jan Działyński for others. — BarrelProof (talk) 23:44, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Fe!n → Fein (song) – Special characters used for decorative purposes, such as an exclamation mark in the middle of a song name, should not be included in article titles. JE98 (talk) 23:32, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Autobiographical comics → List of autobiographical comics – Article is more a list of, than a description of, autobiographical comics. (Has been marked for cleanup since 2010.) RJFJR (talk) 22:17, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Dodola and Perperuna → Rainmaking (Southeast Europe) – see the discussion above. We also have the generic Rainmaking (ritual) page (techical nomination; no vote) --Altenmann >talk 20:15, 22 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. ASUKITE 21:16, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Sōma Yoshitane (1558-1635) → Sōma Yoshitane (daimyo, born 1548) – For closer alignment with WP:NCPDAB, particularly avoiding hyphenated lifespan ranges. I believe the birth year of this Sōma Yoshitane is incorrect in the current title, as it does not match the article content and does not match what I find in (hopefully non-Wikipedia-derived) search results. Another Honda Yasushige is at Honda Yasushige (Zeze) and is thus disambiguated differently, but this Honda Yasushige overlapped between both the Sengoku and Edo periods and also overlapped between Okazaki han and Shiroi han and also overlapped between the Mikawa province and Kantō region, so I am just resorting to the birth year. The article about him refers to him as a samurai, but not as a daimyo, but the disambiguation page at Honda Yasushige refers to him as a daimyo, so I don't know which term is best to use. See also the similar recent two-article RM at Talk:Satake Yoshimasa (daimyo, born 1728). — BarrelProof (talk) 21:13, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – The People (1891) → The People (1891–2008) – In my limited experience, a single year in the title of an article about a publication would mean either that the publication has continued to exist since that year (which is not the case here) or that the publication existed only briefly within a single year (also not the case here). — BarrelProof (talk) 20:41, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Panduvasdeva of Tambapanni → Panduvasdeva – There is no other monarch named Panduvasdeva with an article on Wikipedia. Векочел (talk) 20:33, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Ben Grimm → Thing (comics) – Similar to what the situation of Mr. Fantastic, "Thing" was the original name of the article and where the article was located for years. User:Lowellian gave the best reasons on why it should be change. And the same reasoning that was applied for Mr. Fantastic should be apply here. His examples: * his teammates: Invisible Woman, not "Susan Storm"; Human Torch, not "Johnny Storm"; Thing is currently at "Ben Grimm", but that was only moved there together with that aforementioned 2021 move which again, should have been closed as no consensus * with his enemies: Doctor Doom, not "Victor von Doom"; Mole Man, not "Harvey Rupert Elder"; Puppet Master (Marvel Comics), not "Phillip Masters"; Galactus, not "Galan" * with the majority of Marvel superhero articles: Iron Man, not "Tony Stark"; Captain America, not "Steve Rogers"; Spider-Man, not "Peter Parker" * with the majority of superhero articles, even those outside Marvel: Superman, not "Clark Kent"; Batman, not "Bruce Wayne"; Wonder Woman, not "Diana Prince"; Spawn (character), not "Al Simmons" Ziggy Coltrane (talk) 19:06, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Illinois River (Oklahoma) → Illinois River (Arkansas–Oklahoma) – Per WP:PRECISE, WP:PLACEDAB and WP:NCRIVER. About half of this river is in one state and half in the other (per this not so great map) so I think it makes sense to inclue both states in the parentheses. (Note that the 2015 RM above was to trade one state name for the other, where this is meant to be more holistic.) Looking at other examples like Sabine River (Texas–Louisiana), White River (Arkansas–Missouri), and Iroquois River (Indiana-Illinois) the practice seems to be to order the states by the order of the river goes through them which I followed. Being precise seems especially important here to avoid confusion with the state of Illinois. RevelationDirect (talk) 18:40, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Lifted condensation level → Lifting condensation level – Lifting condensation level is almost ubiquitously the WP:COMMONNAME. Amongst others, the NOAA, articles in the Journal of Atmospheric Science, Oxford Reference and (from what I can tell) all the sources cited use lifting. Whilst not of the highest quality, Google Ngrams shows a clear preference for lifting as well. – Isochrone (talk) 17:41, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – The People (disambiguation) → The People – There doesn't seem to be a primary topic for this phrase. The current target of The People is The Sunday People; compared to all the other potential targets listed on The People (disambiguation), the current setup seems to be unhelpful/unlikely. Steel1943 (talk) 17:07, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Dallas Hilton → Hotel Indigo Dallas Downtown – Per WP:NAMECHANGES and WP:COMMONNAME but leaving redirect. While this hotel has a close association with Conrad Hilton, it has operated as a Hotel Indigo since 2006 (secondary source) and the proposed name reflects actual usage (primary source). I don't think we should automatically rename articles for every corporate rebranding but here it's an accuracy issue since Indigo is part of the Intercontinental Hotels Group, a direct Hilton competitor. RevelationDirect (talk) 16:54, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Kach (political party) → Kach – This article is the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. PhotographyEdits (talk) 14:00, 23 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Reading Beans 15:36, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
- Kach → Kach (disambiguation) over redirect without leaving a redirect (implied), then WP:G14 delete if unnecessary
- (Discuss) – 2024 ICC Cricket World Cup Challenge League Play-off → 2024 Cricket World Cup Challenge League Play-off – the term "ICC" should be removed for consistency with the parent article which is just 2027 Cricket World Cup.
Also, no need for the hosts to be mentioned in the titles of Challenge League events.Vestrian24Bio (TALK) 14:44, 23 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Reading Beans 15:29, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Stanisław Potocki (1659-1683) → Stanisław Potocki (Polish noble, died 1683) – For alignment with WP:NCPDAB, especially to remove the lifespan ranges (especially the one using a hyphen). These people have more specific titles (szlachcic, voivode, etc.), but I think they are not used in English, so I am just suggesting "Polish noble" for all of them. For one of these, we have the birth year, but for the others we do not, so it may be best to consistently use the death year for all of them. Note that Stanisław Potocki (1734–1802) redirects to Józef Potocki (1734/35–1802). This seems to be an artefact of a previous error; see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 January 13#Stanisław Potocki (1734–1802). Note that there is also a non-disambiguated Józef Potocki. — BarrelProof (talk) 15:02, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Okinawa (disambiguation) → Okinawa – Okinawa → Okinawa (disambiguation) Sources immensely vary on what Okinawa refers to without qualification, with the island, the islands, and the prefecture all commonly being referenced by that name; I cannot find a clear primary topic at all here. Despite this, Okinawa is currently just a redirect to the prefecture, with the dab hatnoted. Dictionary definitions are unhelpful, variously describing it as "an island" or "islands", which itself is ambiguous between the island chain and the prefecture. "Okinawa Island" and "Okinawa Prefecture" return similar amounts (18,000 and 19,000) of results on Google Scholar, but "on Okinawa" is much less used than "in Okinawa". Page view analysis shows that Okinawa Prefecture is less viewed than Okinawa Island, but not enough that the island would be a primary topic. Generalissima (talk) (it/she) 14:45, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Waipareira → Waipareira (New Zealand electorate) – This page should be a DAB due to the Waipareira block. Another potential article with the name is the Waipareira Trust Traumnovelle (talk) 03:39, 23 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 14:09, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Leopold of Limburg Stirum (1681-1726) → Leopold, Count of Limburg Stirum (born 1681) – To follow WP:NCPDAB, avoiding the use of a lifespan range (with an improper use of a hyphen). The title should be consistent with that of Leopold Karel, Count of Limburg Stirum (born 1758). A two-entry set index article can be found at Leopold of Limburg Stirum. The set index article hints that there might also be other people who could be considered a "Leopold of Limburg Stirum". It is not clear to me whether "Karel" really belongs in the other article title. — BarrelProof (talk) 13:56, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Cornelis de Graeff (1650-1678) → Cornelis de Graeff (Dutch noble, born 1650) – A more conventional WP:NCPDAB title. Wikipedia does not ordinarily use lifespan ranges (especially with hyphens) for disambiguation of people. See also Cornelis de Graeff and Cornelis de Graeff II. (note the dot). — BarrelProof (talk) 13:31, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Committee for a Workers' International (1974) → Committee for a Workers' International – The disambiguator (1974) was added to the article name several years ago to distinguish it from Committee for a Workers' International (2019). With the AFD decision to delete that article and merge it into this one the disambiguator is no longer necessary as there is only one article. Wellington Bay (talk) 13:27, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Ultimate (sport) → Ultimate Frisbee – On the basis of WP:NATDAB + WP:COMMONNAME. "Ultimate Frisbee" may be less official, but it's much more recognizable, making for a better article title. The sport can be called just "Ultimate" beyond the first paragraph, following common Wikipedia practice. Jruderman (talk) 18:44, 11 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 05:44, 19 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Reading Beans 08:48, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Frederica of Württemberg (1699-1781) → Duchess Frederica of Württemberg (abbess) – or Duchess Frederica of Württemberg (born 1699). The naming should be consistent with that of the other Duchess Frederica of Württemberg; both of them were duchesses. Wikipedia doesn't ordinarily disambiguate people using lifespan ranges (especially hyphenated ones). — BarrelProof (talk) 08:43, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Thomas Vernon (1631-1711) → Thomas Vernon (merchant) – or Thomas Vernon (MP for City of London), to follow WP:NCPDAB, replacing the (hyphenated) lifespan range. — BarrelProof (talk) 08:25, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – William Goring (by 1500-54) → William Goring (politician, died 1554) – or William Goring (courtier, died 1554), to more closely follow WP:NCPDAB, and particularly to replace the strange hyphenated lifespan date range. — BarrelProof (talk) 08:15, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Samastha Kerala Jem-iyyathul Ulama → Samastha Kerala Jem-iyyathul Ulama (EK faction) – There are two organisations exactly with the same name. So disambiguation is needed. The most used term for disambiguation in reliable sources is "EK faction". Neutralhappy (talk) 19:48, 22 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Reading Beans 07:54, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Murder of Mallory Manning → Murder of Mellory Manning – Majority of reliable sources now spell victim's name as Mellory (rather than "Mallory"). Muzilon (talk) 23:04, 22 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. – robertsky (talk) 07:48, 30 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Reading Beans 07:51, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Włodzimierz Dzieduszycki (1885-1971) → Włodzimierz Dzieduszycki (Polish noble, born 1885) – or Włodzimierz Dzieduszycki (ornithologist). For improved disambiguation from his grandfather, another Polish noble and naturalist, born 1825. This one was an ornithologist, but that doesn't appear to be a defining characteristic for him. His work in underground resistance and assisting victims of war may be more notable. Both him and his grandfather had something to do with natural history museums. Both articles have low page views (shown here), but the one at the base name does get about three times the number of views as the other one. — BarrelProof (talk) 23:30, 22 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Reading Beans 07:36, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Chhatrapati Shivaji Maharaj International Airport → Mumbai International Airport – The current title is an extremely long and an uncommon title violating WP:COMMONNAME, WP:CONCISION and WP:NATURALNESS. Wikipedia requires that the official name should not be used (unless it fulfills the criterion at WP:Article titles). If we were to see the usage in news media, "Chhatrapati Shivaji Maharaj International Airport" gives only 300 hits, "Chhatrapati Shivaji International Airport" also gives only 300 hits, while "Mumbai International Airport" gives 10,100 hits and "Mumbai Airport" gives 21,100 hits, showing the prevalence of "Mumbai International Airport" and "Mumbai Airport" in news media, and it thus fulfilling the criterion at WP:COMMONNAME. Besides the current name doesn't even show up in ngrams because of its extremely low usage in published sources. "Mumbai International Airport" is much more natural and recognisable to an average reader, and more readers are likely to search for it. Mumbai Airport is good enough too. PadFoot (talk) 10:26, 13 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 01:09, 23 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 06:35, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Round Here → Round Here (Counting Crows song) – Inbound links and page views suggest there is no WP:PRIMARYTOPIC and all the "Round Here"s should be disambiguated instead. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 02:27, 16 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 01:16, 23 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 06:29, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Crossing the inner German border during the Cold War → Crossing the inner German border – WP:CONCISE, mainly. Remsense ‥ 论 03:49, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Mary Herbert (1686-1775) → Mary Herbert (mine operator) – or Mary Herbert (miner) or Mary Herbert (businesswoman). We don't ordinarily use lifespan ranges (especially with hyphens) for disambiguation of people. See Mary Herbert for other people with this name to be disambiguated from. — BarrelProof (talk) 03:06, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Robert Haigh → Robert Haigh (field hockey) – The musician's current recording name is Robert Haigh, not Rob Haigh. This needs disambiguation with the hockey player. Lazz_R 01:38, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – List of treaties of China (1689-1949) → List of treaties of China before the People's Republic – or just List of treaties of China, or split the list into separate lists for the Qing dynasty and the pre-1949 Republic of China. There are currently no other lists of treaties of China on Wikipedia that cover different date ranges, so the current title may be more precise than necessary. The current list has two sections, covering the Qing dynasty and the pre-1949 Republic of China. The last item in the list is from 1947, not 1949. Date ranges should not use hyphens. — BarrelProof (talk) 01:14, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Robotics conventions → Line representations in robotics – This article seems to be all about line representations and not as general as the title implies. Maybe rename to "Line representations in robotics"? RJFJR (talk) 00:19, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
August 29, 2024
- (Discuss) – Les Films du losange → Les Films du Losange – 'Losange' capitalised appears to be the most commonly used form in both English[7], [8], [9], [10] [11][12][13] and French sources[14][15][16] [17][18]. The company themself also self-identify with 'Losange' capitalised.[19][20][21][22][23] MOS:FRENCHCAPS does not apply here as this is a company, not a creative work. Οἶδα (talk) 23:02, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Sudzha (river) → Sudzha River – Natural disambiguation which is common in English, a search gave me several hundred relevant ghits. This page has been boldly moved several times, see here. While the best name is the one I'm suggesting IMO, either way an RM will hopefully lead to stability. Andrewa (talk) 22:14, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Houghton Mifflin Harcourt → HMH Education Company – Company has changed its name; see above for COI editor's request. I am opening this discussion on their behalf. Rusalkii (talk) 22:07, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Lifetimes (Katy Perry song) → Lifetimes (song) – It's better to request a move than to make a quick redirect, since this established article already has a history of edits. And the other existing article doesn't really have a history of edits, just some quick redirects and categories. Is it Juan? (talk) 20:14, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Qi (Henan) → Qǐ (state) – Currently this is the only article in Category:Ancient Chinese states that isn't disambiguated by the word "state". Several other reasons for the move request: Qi County, Hebi and Qi County, Kaifeng are both in Henan; the 12th-century puppet state Qi was also based in Henan; and several other polities named Qi also covered parts or the whole of Henan (including the Shandong-based Qi (state)). Not saying that the word "state" is in any way precise (it's obviously not), but it's good to be consistent with other articles in the same category. Yinweiaiqing (talk) 19:01, 13 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Waqar💬 08:28, 21 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Fathoms Below (talk) 19:43, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Over Her Dead Body → Over Her Dead Body (2008 film) – There are four entries listed upon the Over Her Dead Body (disambiguation) page, with little indication that the 2008 film overshadows the combined notability of the remaining three entries. — Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 19:22, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Sophia Howe → Sophia Waller, 2nd Baroness Howe –
DrKay and I have found ourselves in disagreement over the title of this article. At creation, this article was named like it currently is: Sophia Howe. Since she was a peeress suo jure (having inherited the barony from her father), I moved the article to Sophia Howe, 2nd Baroness Howe, which is generally the format for articles on peers – unless they disclaim the title, or don't use it (like for instance author Nicholas Mosley). DrKay moved it back to Sophia Howe with the comment Remove unnecessary parentheses/disambiguator: mismatch of her maiden name and a title she inherited after her marriage. I can buy that her surname wasn't Howe when she inherited the barony, but I find it peculiar that DrKay nevertheless kept it, while removing the title, which was correct. It seems to me that it flies in the face of his own edit summary. As I said, I totally buy that her surname wasn't Howe when she inherited the barony, so I then moved the article to Sophia Waller, 2nd Baroness Howe; Waller being her surname when she inherited the title. DrKay has now moved the article back to Sophia Howe again, with the edit summary bizarre use of unknown surname! What's bizarre?, I ask. DrKay complains the Howe wasn't her surname when she inherited the title, I move it to the surname that she had when she inherited the title, and DrKay moves it back again (never mind referring to WP:RMUM after they have done it themselves ... ). I don't know if anyone is move-warring here, but if so, it certainly isn't me. I have acted in good faith. So, what should the article title be? # Sophia Howe (with or without "2nd Baroness Howe"), this lastname is her maiden name. # Sophia Curzon (with or without "2nd Baroness Howe"), this is the lastname from her 1st husband. # Sophia Curzon-Howe (with or without "2nd Baroness Howe"), #1 and #2 combined, which is what her son, who inherited the barony from her, chose. # Sophia Waller (with or without "2nd Baroness Howe"), this is the lastname from her 2nd husband. Vote 1a, 1b, 2a, 2b, etc, with a=with "2nd Baroness Howe", and b=without the title. My vote is 4a.
HandsomeFella (talk) 18:44, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Template:ABC Midwest → User:CPLANAS1985/ABC Midwest – Moved to subpage to avoid deletion... The template itself will be removed from various articles... CPLANAS1985 🇵🇷 🇺🇸 (Male • T • C • IG • FB) 18:17, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Asif Ali Zardari → Asif Zardari – According to the vast majority of sources in Google Books, his common name is Asif Zardari. Sheriff | ☎ 911 | 17:04, 25 August 2024 (UTC) This is a contested technical request (permalink). – robertsky (talk) 15:37, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Bobby Decordova-Reid → Bobby De Cordova-Ried – I am aware that this person has the surname changed slightly per websites such as Soccerbase, Leicester City, BBC Sport so the article title should match per recent sources I've provided. Jordan Ayew has had the spelling of this surname amended already. Iggy (Swan) (Contribs) 15:12, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Tel Aviv–Jerusalem bus 405 suicide attack → Tel Aviv–Jerusalem bus 405 hijacking – He survived. FourPi (talk) 14:36, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Pakistan National Congress → Bangladesh National Congress – There is no proof that Pakistan National Congress existed in Pakistan after Bangladesh Liberation War. The sources in the article clearly indicated that Pakistan National Congress became Bangladesh National Congress in 1971. It also participated in the 1973 Bangladeshi general election. On the other hand, Pakistan National Congress didn’t join 1977 Pakistani general election. In that sense, Bangladesh National Congress is the only successor of the Pakistan National Congress. Also, there is no proof we find that will lead us to believe that many politicians from West Pakistan were in this party, the names of the PNC politicians from the sources we find are mostly from East Pakistan which is now Bangladesh. It should be renamed to Bangladesh National Congress. However, if anyone can show us proofs stating many West Pakistani politicians were in that party then I would propose to rename it as "National Congress (1947–1975)". Mehedi Abedin 14:33, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Asphalt → Asphalt (disambiguation) – Most people call it asphalt. I rarely hear people say
asphalt concrete
. 2600:1700:6180:6290:DBCD:6145:4378:48BF (talk) 14:27, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Maritime (Togolese region) → Maritime Region, Togo – Consistency with the other regions' article titles. Previous arguments against the proposed title had incorrect understandings of the French names. As evidenced by this Togolese government source, "Region" is a part of their names, unlike the example of Prince Edward Island. Yue🌙 03:51, 21 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. ModernDayTrilobite (talk • contribs) 14:02, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Franz Joseph I of Austria → Franz Joseph I – My first reason is that Franz Jospeh I already redirects here, meaning that he is clearly the primary topic. My second reason is because if you look at Google Ngram Viewer the name without Austria is clearly leading and always has been. History6042 (talk) 13:23, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Ryan Whitney → Ryan Whitney (ice hockey) – Firstly, there is no clear WP:PRIMARYTOPIC between Ryan Whitney and Ryan Whitney (actress) (see similar page view numbers, suggesting equal readership). Ryan Whitney used to be called Ryan Newman, which is where all the problems start. However, after three years, two failed RMs, and a unilateral move by a user, we're passed the WP:TOOSOON stage. Let's say Ryan Whitney (actress)'s WP:COMMONNAME is actually Ryan Whitney (more on that later), and we manage to agree that there is no PRIMARYTOPIC, then, we need to move the pages accordingly and create a proper disambiguation page, instead of what is now at Ryan Whitney (disambiguation).
Next, for the case of Ryan Newman (racing driver), the page needs to be moved to Ryan Newman, since he would be the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC for the name "Ryan Newman". We could leave a hatnote at the top so that readers looking for the former Ryan Newman, now Ryan Whitney, could find her. I don't think a Ryan Newman (disambiguation) page is necessary, but let me know. Ryan Dean Newman can stay as is, and we can leave a hatnote if need be.Alternate proposal
: if you disagree with Ryan Whitney's WP:COMMONNAME being Ryan Whitney, I suggest moving Ryan Whitney (actress) to Ryan Whitney Newman, which is used in a fair chunk of sources and on places like her Instagram page. Ryan Newman (racing driver) is still moved to Ryan Newman, hatnotes are still left at the top, but that way we can leave Ryan Whitney (the ice hockey player) where he is, and just leave a hatnote at the top. Ryan Whitney (disambiguation) can be outright deleted. Ryan Dean Newman, no change but hatnotes where needed. Paul Vaurie (talk) 13:17, 29 August 2024 (UTC)- Ryan Newman (racing driver) → Ryan Newman
- Ryan Newman → Ryan Newman (disambiguation) over redirect without leaving a redirect (implied), then WP:G14 delete if unnecessary
- Ryan Whitney (disambiguation) → Ryan Whitney
- (Discuss) – Canadian (disambiguation) → Canadian – It's safe to say that Canadian doesn't have a primary topic, just like almost every other nationalities (American, Australian, British, Brazilian, Mexican, etc per WP:CONSISTENT) because it can also refer to the something from Canada, its citizens, and either the English/French variety of that language. In fact, Australian (disambiguation) was only recently moved to Australian back in October 2022. JuniperChill (talk) 16:26, 13 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 13:22, 21 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 11:42, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Abortion-rights movements → Abortion rights movements – Per WP:COMMONNAME. No other rights movement uses the hyphenated version of the title (e.g. civil rights, women's rights, gay rights, etc.) on Wikipedia. Google Books shows "abortion rights" and "abortion rights movement" are at least 10x more common than their counterparts, and a quick Google Scholar and Pubmed search shows almost unanimous use of "abortion rights" without the hyphen. PassedDown (talk | contribs) 14:12, 13 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. — Amakuru (talk) 08:59, 22 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 11:41, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Sassafras Lowrey → Sassafras Patterdale – Name change ZoraSilv (talk) 11:22, 22 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 11:39, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Sol Kyung-gu → Sul Kyung-gu – Sul Kyung-gu is the version Sul uses, as he confirmed, it is on his English passport as well, it’s the version his agency uses, the version media outlets, reporters and even streaming services use for him. A lot of websites also use this name for him, using the correct version on here can clear up confusions people might get with his name and also show respect to the actor. Sul is the version used by most official sources now so that being used on Wikipedia as well can be great help to finally clearing up misunderstandings and help people. Thank you. Do let me know if source is needed for anything. ... Ku9979 (talk) 10:58, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Out-of-home advertising → Outdoor advertising – The WP:COMMONNAME per Google Ngram, also slightly more WP:CONCISE. PhotographyEdits (talk) 10:34, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Wi-Fi 6 → IEEE 802.11ax – So this article was moved to the Wi-Fi 6 title in 2021, citing WP:COMMONNAME. However, all the other Wi-Fi articles (Wi-Fi 7, Wi-Fi 8, Wi-Fi 5) use the IEEE technical name, rather than the "Wi-Fi x" marketing name. Thus I suggest moving this article to IEEE 802.11ax (without the "-2021" at the end, as it's not needed - WP:CONCISE; also the later articles don't have "-year" in the title either) to be WP:CONSISTENT with all these other Wi-Fi articles that are titled under the IEEE name. I'd say
No one but advanced experts in this field would be searching for this article by its IEEE number, nor know what this article is about from its IEEE number.
(from the previous RM) is not much of an issue anymore, as these Wi-Fi articles all now have a neat navigational template at the top clearly showing the "Wi-Fi x" marketing designations of each IEEE WLAN standard. Also, that's what redirects are for. — AP 499D25 (talk) 10:06, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Use of human shields by Hamas → Allegations that Hamas use human shields – The current title puts increasingly controversial claims in wiki voice. After 4 months more evidence, it is worth discussing this title again. Since the first two discussions there has been strong expert criticism of the IDF claim that civilian casualties are human shields, particularly by Francesca Albanese, but also by others. Even if some of the past allegations are credible or proven, the current title somewhat implies that human shield use can explain a substantial proportion of recent casualties. Adding "allegations" is the simplest and mildest thing we can do to fix the bias in the current title. "Allegation" might be a more acceptable compromise for some people who rejected "accusation", and this proposal is hopefully less confusingly phrased than previous suggestions. FourPi (talk) 09:32, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Wassim Mansouri → Wassim Manssouri – The s letter should be doubled in the family name as it represents the Arabic letter saad (ص) and not the seen (س) letter... John k daher (talk) 07:48, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – National Film Award for Best Short Film → National Film Award for Best Short Film (Up to 30 Min) – Recently the name was officially changed from "Best Short Fiction Film". The official sources, such as the Ministry of Information & Broadcasting's memorandum, government's press release and their X handle mention the new name as "Best Short Film (Up to 30 Min)". If it's part of the title, then it's a noun, and Up to is grammatically correct than Upto and Up-to. However, a user removed the part from the title. There was no explanation. But, since it can happen again, I'm starting an RM. 117.230.91.165 (talk) 07:19, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – TFF First League → 1. Lig – Following the examples of 2. Bundesliga, 3. Liga and the various other articles named in the format n. Liga, and based on the principle that football leagues are referred to as their native names as in the example of Süper Lig, I believe these articles should be moved. – anlztrk (talk | contribs) 06:46, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – County Highway → County Highway (news magazine) – This article would most likely confuse County highway. 2600:1700:6180:6290:B252:32CB:66B7:AE8D (talk) 20:16, 21 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 06:37, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Friday the 13th: The Final Chapter → Friday the 13th Part V: The Final Chapter – Much like Part 2 and Part III, the Wikipedia articles are all titled by the title in the billing block at the bottom of the poster. Not by the big title on the poster. We should continue doing this for Part V. ScottSullivan01 (talk) 01:44, 22 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 06:37, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – List of New Testament minuscules (2001–) → List of New Testament minuscules (2001–3017) – or List of New Testament minuscules (2001–2900) or List of New Testament minuscules (2101–2900), where the alternative suggested titles would imply removing some of what's currently in the list. My primary goal is to get rid of the strange combination of the dash followed immediately by a closing parenthesis, which is usually a date range but in this case is not. There are less than 30 titles like that on the English Wikipedia that I could find. Note that there's a duplication of the content of the end of this list in List of New Testament minuscules (2901–). There is also a duplicate of the content of the beginning of this list in List of New Testament minuscules (2001–2100). I don't fully understand how these lists are constructed, but I don't see big transclusions. — BarrelProof (talk) 03:19, 22 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 06:35, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Colonel Wolodyjowski (film) → Pan Wołodyjowski (film) – Per discussion above - the current title is not official, ORish and arguably not even the most popular of the several alternatives used in English discourse; whereas the original Polish name is widely used in English too (and obviously official). Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 04:10, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Colonel Wolodyjowski → Pan Michael – Per discussion above, including ngram and cited academic source that states "Pan Wołodyjowski (usually translated into English as Pan Michael)". Note that "Pan Michael" is the name of the original translation from 1893, the new edition from 1992 for some reason chose a different title, "Fire in the Steppe", but that title does not appear to be very popular. That said, the original Polish title "Pan Wołodyjowski" is also often used in English, so this is a bit of a toss up between WP:USEENGLISH and WP:COMMONNAME, and I'd be fine with using "Pan Wołodyjowski" as well. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 04:04, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Mahanama of Anuradhapura → King Mahanama – Procedural nomination as a follow up to the discussion at Talk:Pandukabhaya#Requested move 22 August 2024. The previous request suggested that there is no need to disambiguate from other rulers for these titles, but another editor raised the question of whether the proposed titles are in accordance with WP:NCROY. Dekimasuよ! 03:57, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Tyla → Tyla (disambiguation) – Seems to unquestionably be the primary topic. Tyla (English musician) is the only direct contender for "Tyla", aside from a population-11 village in Russia and Tyla (album), and it was tagged for notability up until a few minutes ago. Nothing even comes close to the 100 000+ page views in the past month for Tyla (South African singer). C F A 💬 03:48, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Javy Guerra (baseball, born 1985) → Javy Guerra (2010s pitcher) – Per WP:NCBASE#Disambiguation. Disambiguation by decade (bullet point 4) is preferred ahead of year of birth (bullet point 5, the last resort.) The elder Guerra played only 20 games in the 2020s, while the younger played only 8 games in the 2010s; the decades clearly indicate which career is which. 162 etc. (talk) 03:02, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Billy Hamilton (baseball, born 1866) → Billy Hamilton (1890s outfielder) – Per WP:NCBASE#Disambiguation. Disambiguation by decade (bullet point 4) is preferred ahead of year of birth (bullet point 5, the last resort.) 162 etc. (talk) 02:51, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Casual (Chappell Roan song) → Casual (song) – There is no other Wikipedia article for a song called "Casual", so we can and should use the simpler disambiguation as per WP:NCDAB. BappleBusiness[talk] 02:44, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – List of accolades received by If Beale Street Could Talk → List of accolades received by If Beale Street Could Talk (film) – The subject is the film adaptation, not the novel. Kailash29792 (talk) 02:34, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – People ... Hold On → ? – Looking through sources, a lot of them have the title be either People... Hold On or People...Hold On, and I'm not sure which would be the more correct title. reppoptalk 01:08, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Toad worship → Moha – should use pinyin instead of direct translation to avoid ambiguity Coddlebean (talk) 03:01, 14 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Waqar💬 08:28, 21 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Sennecaster (Chat) 00:48, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
- Moha → Moha (disambiguation) over redirect without leaving a redirect (implied), then WP:G14 delete if unnecessary
August 28, 2024
- (Discuss) – Arrest of Pavel Durov → Indictment and arrest of Pavel Durov – Matching Indictment and arrest of Julian Assange following indictment of Pavel Durov [24][25][26][27] Sir Kenneth Kho (talk) 21:39, 28 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Institut québécois de planification financière → Institute of Financial Planning – The IQPF was renamed Institute of Financial Planning on December 4, 2023. Khavaella (talk) 19:45, 28 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Hypoactive sexual desire disorder → Hypoactive sexual desire dysfunction – The ICD has updated the name of the condition from disorder to dysfunction. The DSM still refers to it as a disorder, but there is no indication of when the DSM-6 will be released yet and the ICD is more internationally recognised. DotCoder (talk) 18:19, 28 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – 2019 King Cup → 2019 King's Cup (Saudi Arabia) – To match the parent article and correct a grammatical error. EpicAdventurer (talk) 16:31, 28 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Chittagong → Chattogram – move the page from Chittagong to Chattogram as it is the official name by the government of Bangladesh and also locally used most and according to Google trends Chattogram is the most used name. Move is according to WP:COMMONNAME Therealbey (talk) 00:48, 24 August 2024 (UTC) This is a contested technical request (permalink). ASUKITE 15:20, 28 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Rock-climbing equipment → Rock climbing equipment – I'm not seeing much sourcing supporting the dash and this would maintain consistency with Rock climbing. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 14:35, 28 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Moses J. Yellow Horse → Moses Yellowhorse – Searches of Newspapers.com for "Moses J. Yellow Horse" and "Moses J. Yellowhorse" return 21 results collectively. Baseball-Reference and SABR use "Moses Yellow Horse," Fangraphs and MLB use "Chief Yellowhorse" and Retrosheet uses "Chief Yellow Horse." (Career statistics and player information from MLB, or Baseball Reference, or Fangraphs, or Retrosheet) Whatever name we end up using, there is no need for his middle initial to be in the title of this article. The following Newspapers.com searches return the following results: *Moses Yellowhorse: 1,651 results *Chief Yellow Horse: 1,615 results *Chief Yellowhorse: 1,491 results *Moses Yellow Horse: 904 results Chief Yellowhorse and Moses Yellowhorse are roughly equally popular according to the Google Ngram Viewer (but I don't know how reliable that is because it also returns no results for "Moses Yellow Horse." I would support (and I think the data support) moving this article to Moses Yellowhorse, Chief Yellow Horse or Chief Yellowhorse. I can't see that there's a way to nominate multiple different titles though. Dennis C. Abrams (talk) 14:10, 28 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – 2019–20 King Cup → 2019–20 King's Cup – To match the parent article and correct a grammatical error. EpicAdventurer (talk) 13:54, 28 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – 2020–21 King Cup → 2020–21 King's Cup – To match the parent article and correct a grammatical error. EpicAdventurer (talk) 13:53, 28 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – 2021–22 King Cup → 2021–22 King's Cup – To match the parent article and correct a grammatical error. EpicAdventurer (talk) 13:53, 28 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – 2022–23 King Cup → 2022–23 King's Cup – To match the parent article and correct a grammatical error. EpicAdventurer (talk) 13:52, 28 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – 2023–24 King Cup → 2023–24 King's Cup – To match the parent article and correct a grammatical error EpicAdventurer (talk) 13:52, 28 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Israeli incursions in the West Bank during the Israel–Hamas war → West Bank theatre of the Israel–Hamas war – The war-related fighting in the West Bank isn't just limited to the IDF doing incursions, but also involves Palestinian attacks on settlers and involvement of the PA security forces. Furthermore, the proposed new title is also more concise. Evaporation123 (talk) 07:04, 28 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Vladimir Putin's December 2021 ultimatum → 2021 Russian ultimatum – The title shouldn't have Putin's name in it, no more than Soviet ultimatum to Lithuania should be "Joseph Stalin's ultimatum" or 1939 German ultimatum to Poland should be "Adolf Hitler's ultimatum". These proposals were advanced on behalf of Russia, not Putin as an individual. "December" is not necessary since no other major ultimata were issued by Russia in 2021. As for possible suffixes, "to the West" is too informal, "to the United States and NATO" is too wordy, and "on Ukraine" is perhaps too presumptuous, despite the troop situation and the singling out of Ukraine in the draft treaties. — Goszei (talk) 08:26, 13 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Waqar💬 14:48, 20 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 06:25, 28 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – 2013 Washington, Illinois tornado → 2013 Washington tornado – more standardized name, confusion with the 2013 EF0 in the suburbs of DC is unlikely, and the event is referred to as "Washington Tornado" on the NWS Central Illinois summary page GeorgeMemulous (talk) 13:58, 20 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 06:22, 28 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Northern League (ice hockey, 2005–) → Northern League (ice hockey, 2005–present) – The current date range format for the first three of these hockey leagues doesn't seem to follow the usual Wikipedia convention. I found only 27 titles like this on the English Wikipedia. As for the fourth one, I found no indication that the older New Brunswick Junior Hockey League is a primary topic over the newer one, so I suggest disambiguation. Pageviews here. If we need to pick one of the two as primary, I suggest picking the new one. Some people looking for the new one are almost certainly landing on the article about the older one by accident. There is no hatnote to indicate that a reader might have found the wrong article. There is also a New Brunswick Junior C Hockey League article. Also, is it necessary to use "ice hockey" for the Northern League rather than just "hockey"? — BarrelProof (talk) 21:58, 30 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Waqar💬 08:02, 8 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Reading Beans 12:33, 20 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 06:16, 28 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Non è la RAI → Non è la Rai – see this discussion. JacktheBrown (talk) 21:34, 21 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Waqar💬 15:56, 5 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. – robertsky (talk) 19:08, 13 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Waqar💬 19:42, 13 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 05:11, 28 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Georg Albrecht, Mayor of Rothenburg ob der Tauber (1603-1666) → Georg Albrecht (mayor) – or Georg Albrecht (politician). The appended (hyphenated) date range is not how articles on Wikipedia are ordinarily titled. Georg Albrecht, Mayor of Rothenburg ob der Tauber is a red link, so the date range could just be omitted, but "Mayor of Rothenburg ob der Tauber" is an elected position, not a title of nobility. No other articles in Category:Mayors of places in Bavaria have titles like this. — BarrelProof (talk) 00:48, 28 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – List of antisemitic incidents in the United States → List of antisemitic and anti-Jewish incidents in the United States – Not all of the attacks listed here can be verified as antisemetic -- that is, targeting Jews or Jewish institutions because they are Jews. Some, like the January 2024 assault, are presumed to be antisemitic, but authorities have not confirmed such a motive. Other attacks like the 2018 attempted murder of 2 Jews outside a Los Angeles synagogue, targeted Jews but perpetrated by someone with mental illness. New title, while a little wordier, more accurately and comprehensively covers the scope of the items on this list. Longhornsg (talk) 00:34, 28 August 2024 (UTC)
August 27, 2024
- (Discuss) – Expedition to West Africa (1664-1665) → Dutch expedition to West Africa – There are no other articles entitled Expedition to West Africa, but it may be good to add "Dutch" for topic clarity here. Some other title entirely may be better (the article cites only a single source in Dutch). The date range (especially with a hyphen) is probably not the best choice. — BarrelProof (talk) 23:21, 27 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – George Albert, Margrave of Brandenburg-Kulmbach → Georg Albrecht, Margrave of Brandenburg-Kulmbach – Both online cited sources use "Georg" (without "e") and "Albrecht". — BarrelProof (talk) 23:09, 27 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – M40 Gun Motor Carriage → M40 gun motor carriage – Per WP:MILCAPS, WP:NCCAPS, and MOS:CAPS, use lowercase as these "motor carriages" are generic terms, not usually capitalized in sources. Dicklyon (talk) 22:19, 27 August 2024 (UTC)
- Howitzer Motor Carriage M8 → Howitzer motor carriage M8
- M12 Gun Motor Carriage → M12 gun motor carriage
- M13 Multiple Gun Motor Carriage → M13 multiple gun motor carriage
- M16 Multiple Gun Motor Carriage → M16 multiple gun motor carriage
- M19 Multiple Gun Motor Carriage → M19 multiple gun motor carriage
- M21 Mortar Motor Carriage → M21 mortar motor carriage
- M3 Gun Motor Carriage → M3 gun motor carriage
- M43 Howitzer Motor Carriage → M43 howitzer motor carriage
- T18 Howitzer Motor Carriage → T18 howitzer motor carriage
- T19 Howitzer Motor Carriage → T19 howitzer motor carriage
- T30 Howitzer Motor Carriage → T30 howitzer motor carriage
- T48 Gun Motor Carriage → T48 gun motor carriage
- T92 Howitzer Motor Carriage → T92 howitzer motor carriage
- (Discuss) – Canada in the World Wars and Interwar Years → Canada in the world wars and interwar period – WP:LOWERCASE. This is not the title of a published work; it is just a descriptive title. Also "interwar period" is used more commonly on Wikipedia than "interwar years". — BarrelProof (talk) 21:54, 27 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Magpul Industries → Magpul – The common name for this company is "Magpul" by far. There is no other similarly-named entity, and hence natural disamguation is not needed. In any case, the full name is Magpul Industries *Corporation*, and in places where the full name is used, it appears roughly as frequently as "Magpul Industries" as it does "Magpul Industries Corporation", hence there is no reason why the half-full name should be used. There could be an arguement that "Magpul" could also refer to the original product made by this company, but the company now retrospectively brands this the Original Magpul to avoid confusion, and in most cases when people refer to Magpul they are referring to the company not the product, which is only a very minor product in their current line. Elshad (talk) 21:36, 27 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Premiership of Muhammad Yunus → Chief Advisership of Muhammad Yunus – He is not prime minister, we can't call it his premiership. Although Chief adviser is similar to the post of prime minister, they are not elected. They don't live in the prime minister's residence. Chief adviser is the head of the interim government who watches the country untill election happens. Mehedi Abedin 21:19, 27 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – LGBT culture → LGBTQ culture – The article LGBTQ, which is about the initialism, was moved recently from LGBT after a recent requested move. LGBTQ has become the clear common name among reliable sources for the initialism, and this is also the case for the terms LGBTQ culture (See the ngram for LGBT vs LGBTQ culture) and LGBTQ community (Ngram for LGBT vs LGBTQ community). While I could have made this RM much broader in scope, I wanted to see if there was consensus to move LGBT community & LGBT culture and its subtopics (subtopics of LGBT culture) first (other articles like LGBT rights or LGBT history would have been more contentious because LGBTQ is not the more commonly used name in those instances [28] [29]). This new title would be consistent with the initialism and as the common name would better fulfill the article criteria. ~ F4U (talk • they/it) 17:44, 27 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Red Star F.C. → Red Star FC – The club itself does not use the dots in the FC, neither on the logo or on its official pages (like Instagram or the official website). Basically just no one uses the dots apart from this Wikipedia article. There is no consensus to use a particular version in France: it widely varies (from FC Villefranche Beaujolais to Stade Rennais F.C.). Paul Vaurie (talk) 16:32, 27 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Sid Eudy → Sycho Sid – Reposting on behalf of User:Rusted AutoParts, with the following rationale: "at no point was Sid ever known by his real name, so I find his being located at Eudy being confusing. I see there's prior rationale being debate over whether Sycho or Vicious was the common name. That'll probably be needed to be sorted through this discussion, but the point remains that to me, Eudy was not the common name, and is inappropriate the keep the page hosted at that location." 162 etc. (talk) 16:30, 27 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Limbo (1999 film) → Limbo (1999 John Sayles film) – per WT:NCFILM#director. I've red-linked Limbo in Fantastic Fest article. -St3095 (?) 15:55, 20 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Bensci54 (talk) 16:10, 27 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Corona México 200 → NASCAR Xfinity Series Race At Mexico City – I think it should be moved to match other races articles without a sponsor MysticCipher87(alt-account) (talk) 15:37, 27 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Silent fox signal → Silent fox gesture – The wording of the current title is barely ever used according to a web search. "Silent fox gesture" or just "Silent fox" appear to be way more common. 1234qwer1234qwer4 14:34, 27 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Suspicious deaths of notable Russians (2022–2024) → Suspicious deaths of notable Russians in 2022–2024 – It is a weird style choice to use parenthesis here, which are usually used for disambiguation. PhotographyEdits (talk) 08:13, 5 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Waqar💬 08:57, 12 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 06:08, 19 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 13:51, 27 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Digital enhanced cordless telecommunications → DECT – DECT is overwhelmingly the WP:COMMONNAME for the subject. Per MOS:ACROTITLE, if the subject is primarily known through its abbreviation and the abbreviation is not primarily used for something else, it should be used as the page title. Webshops use the abbreviation, such as Best Buy: https://www.bestbuy.com/site/searchpage.jsp?st=cordless+phone and Gigaset, the largest manufacturer of DECTs: https://www.gigaset.com/de_de/telefone/dect-telefone/ If you look at Google News, it is the same: https://news.google.com/search?q=intitle%3ADECT&hl=en-US&gl=US&ceid=US%3Aen The full name even gives zero hits in headlines: https://news.google.com/search?q=%22Digital%20Enhanced%20Cordless%20Telecommunications%22&hl=en-US&gl=US&ceid=US%3Aen The full name gives way less hits too. On Google Scholar, the telephony related abbreviation also far more papers than the full name. PhotographyEdits (talk) 10:02, 19 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 13:49, 27 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Nidamanuru, Vijayawada → Nidamanuru – It is Nidamanuru, a neighbourhood, the unilateral move to Nidamanuru, Vijayawada is unexplained and don't understand their point. No Nidamanuru other than the one in Vijayawada exists, hence move it back to Nidamanuru. Thewikizoomer (talk) 18:45, 19 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 13:35, 27 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Bay Bridge Series → Athletics–Giants rivalry – The rivalry between the two teams will still exist in the short term (at least through 2027), though the scope of the rivalry will be zoomed out from the Bay Area (San Francisco/Oakland) to that of Northern California (San Francisco/Sacramento), being that the A's will play in West Sacramento for at least the next 3 seasons. By changing the name of the page to only include the team names, the scope of the article can better accommodate the new SF/Sacramento reality beginning next year. The Bay Bridge Series is now firmly in the past, but maybe the page move should be delayed until the two teams meet again (whether that be moving the page on the day of the next game of May 16, 2025 or before Spring Training 2025). Alternatively, maybe it's better for it to be effective immediately since the "Bay Bridge Series" is now in the past. Spesh531(talk, contrib., ext.) 21:30, 19 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 13:26, 27 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Bento → Bento box – We discussed this in Talk:Bento (disambiguation)#Requested move 9 August 2024 recently - it appears that in English-language usage, the phrase "bento box" is actually very popular in sources, and unambiguously identifies what seems to be more commonly known as just "bento" in Japanese usage. The term bento box already redirects here since forever, so this change would be more of a technicality, but I'm bringing it up for discussion because that would follow the previous process more properly. So, per WP:AT, this change would appear to improve recognizability, naturalness, precision. It would obviously reduce concision a bit, but it seems bearable. I'm not sure about consistency, what would be a comparable example - perhaps how we use take-out instead of to go? This move would facilitate a measurement related to the previous discussion - it appears that the term "Bento" (uppercase) is a fair bit historically and presently ambiguous, while "bento" (lowercase) is less so, but it's not clear to what extent this is so - if we complete this move, that would become easier to measure. TIA. -- Joy (talk) 09:40, 20 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 13:25, 27 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – John Jefferson → John Jefferson (American football) – There is no clear primary topic. Page views: * John Jefferson (American football) Page views in last 30 days: 2,011 * John Wayles Jefferson Page views in last 30 days: 2,894 John Wayles Jefferson is commonly referred to as John Jefferson (eg.) Pinging @Gonzo fan2007 and Bagumba: from prior discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject National Football League § Move of John Jefferson to John Jefferson (American football player) Daask (talk) 12:29, 20 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 13:25, 27 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – St. Aloysius College (Mangalore) → St. Aloysius (Deemed to be University) – There appears to be evidence that the parenthetical "(Deemed to be University)" is now part of the college's name and has recently become the COMMONNAME for this subject. I support a move to this new name, despite my previous objections. ~ Pbritti (talk) 22:29, 19 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 13:25, 27 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Hilbert system → Axiomatic system (logic) – Although I had moved it to "Axiomatic system (logic)", User:2A00:8A60:C010:1:0:0:1:1016 has requested that this article be moved back to "Hilbert system", which was the article title before my recent substantial revisions. He believes that the current article misleads readers to think all axiomatic systems in logic are Hilbert systems. Thiagovscoelho (talk) 12:50, 20 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 13:22, 27 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Eliseu Meifrèn → Eliseo Meifrèn – Pro forma request from WP:DISCORD on behalf of User:LemonPoundCakeEditor, who says: "His name should be 'Eliseo', not 'Eliseu'. Eliseu is Portuguese. He's Spanish." jp×g🗯️ 02:17, 20 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 09:44, 27 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Kelvin Tan (musician) → ? – Kelvin Tan is also a musician, so this disambiguation doesn't work. jlwoodwa (talk) 03:45, 13 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 06:57, 20 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 09:42, 27 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Anarchism and naturism → Anarcho-naturism – A few days ago, @Czar performed a unilateral move of this page from "anarcho-naturism" to "anarchism and naturism", giving the edit summary
"no source visibly uses this hyphenation; is not the common name"
. (diff) This is not correct. It doesn't take long to find the use of the term "anarcho-naturism" in the sources cited in this article; within a minute I found its use in Kirwin Shaffer's book Anarchist Cuba, which is cited throughout this article. Furthermore, it does indeed appear that "anarcho-naturism" is the common name: Google Scholar results find 53 results for "anarcho-naturism";[30] compared with 11 for "anarchist naturism";[31] 6 for "libertarian naturism";[32] 2 for "naturist anarchism";[33] and only 4 for the new page name "anarchism and naturism".[34] This article certainly needs work to trim the less reliable sources and remove unverified information from it, but I don't think moving it to a different title and then leaving it as before is a good place to start. As I can't undo the request and I'm not sure this counts as an uncontroversial technical request, I'm requesting this article be moved back to "anarcho-naturism". Grnrchst (talk) 08:31, 20 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 09:40, 27 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Richeza of Denmark → Rikissa of Denmark – Per WP:COMMONNAME and WP:UE. She is not a widely discussed person in English literature, but the literature that does exist either uses the Swedish Rikissa or the Danish Richizza. The current title Richeza is a Polish variant of the name, originating from her grandmother Richeza of Poland. However, I don't see any evidence that this person would be called "Richeza of Denmark" in any reliable sources. According to WP:UE:
If there are too few reliable English-language sources to constitute an established usage, follow the conventions of the language appropriate to the subject.
Here the appropriate language seems to be Swedish, since she is a Swedish Queen and more often discussed in the Swedish literature. See Google Books searches for Rikissa+Knutsson vs Richizza+Knutsson vs Richeza+Knutsson. Jähmefyysikko (talk) 08:02, 27 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Blank piece of paper → Blank paper protest – The current title doesn't mention protesting, and could easily be confused with just paper. I guess not all of the examples in the page are explicitly protest, some are more performance art, but even those pieces are clearly parodying protests. MarkiPoli (talk) 07:46, 27 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Nicholas Bishop → Nic Bishop – There are two reasons a move makes sense. First, it seems he has more recently been credited as Nic Bishop (for at least 10 years, from what I can tell). Other pages and media refer to him as Nic Bishop. Wikipedia seems to be the outlier here. Second, there is another actor named Nicholas Bishop (who stars in Industry) and while he does not yet have a Wikipedia page, I see this has caused confusion regardless. For example, The Madness of George III mistakenly linked to this actor's page (which I have corrected). Starklinson (talk) 07:06, 27 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Júlia Soares → Julia Soares – She doesn't use diacritics in her name. Check her Instagram if necessary. RodRabelo7 (talk) 03:30, 27 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Kamassian language → Kamas language – Most commonly used name 🪐Kepler-1229b | talk | contribs🪐 02:46, 27 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – M1918 Browning Automatic Rifle → M1918 Browning automatic rifle – Not usually capped in sources. Normalize per MOS:CAPS and WP:MILCAPS. Dicklyon (talk) 01:59, 27 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – The Smurfs (film) → The Smurfs (2011 film) – Insufficient disambiguation. There is an upcoming animated film titled The Smurfs Movie which will be released in 2025, whereas the 2011 live-action/animated film is referred to simply as The Smurfs. ScarletViolet tc 01:02, 27 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Matthew King (swimmer) → Matt King (swimmer) – WP:COMMONNAME per [35] [36] [37] Joeykai (talk) 00:06, 27 August 2024 (UTC)
August 26, 2024
- (Discuss) – Lam Dorji → Lam Dorji (military personnel) – no clear WP:PRIMARYTOPIC Joeykai (talk) 23:21, 26 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Alex Wise → Alex Wise (radio personality) – no clear WP:PRIMARYTOPIC Joeykai (talk) 23:20, 26 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Fortnite seasonal events → List of Fortnite seasonal events – Let's call a spade a spade, there's no need for beating around the bush, this is an obvious list in table format. List-class articles should be named as such, for the most part it's not a prose explanation of the concept of seasonal events. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 21:35, 26 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Haakon Magnusson of Norway → Haakon Toresfostre – "of Norway" is a poor disambiguator when all the other Haakon Magnussons are also kings of Norway. Håkon Toresfostre is a more common spelling in the literature, but the spelling with double a is more consistent with the WP article titles of other royal Haakons. Håkon Magnusson Toresfostre is also a common name, but the suggested title is more concise. Jähmefyysikko (talk) 18:55, 26 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Cathleen Stone Island → Thompson Island (Massachusetts) – Per USGS https://edits.nationalmap.gov/apps/gaz-domestic/public/gaz-record/613016 this place is named Thompson Island, Per https://www.usgs.gov/faqs/how-can-i-propose-a-name-change-a-natural-feature Places cannot be named after living people Allwaysareup (talk) 16:59, 26 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Operation Hereof → August 2024 Balochistan attacks – With the precedent for the Wikipedia page for the Hamas attack on Israel being named 2023 Hamas-led attack on Israel instead of Operation Al-Aqsa flood, I propose renaming this article into August 2024 Balochistan attacks or a variant thereof. Additionally, I feel like this name is more consistent with how attacks in Balochistan have had Wikipedia names in the past. Thoughts? --Dynamo128 (talk) 16:49, 26 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – ICC Men's ODI Team Rankings → ICC ODI Team Rankings – Men's play T20I, ODI & Test while Women's play WT20I, WODI & WTest; no need for a gender-based disambiguation. Vestrian24Bio (TALK) 10:46, 19 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Waqar💬 15:34, 26 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – ICC men's player rankings → ICC Men's Player Rankings – For the title case to be unified with ICC Men's ODI Team Rankings, ICC Men's T20I Team Rankings, ICC Men's Test Team Rankings & ICC Women's ODI and T20I Team Rankings. Vestrian24Bio (TALK) 10:51, 19 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Waqar💬 15:34, 26 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Ismail al-Ghoul → Killing of Ismail al-Ghoul – al-Ghoul wasn't encyclopedically notable as a journalist before his death. Most of the coverage on him is within the context of his killing, which should be the main focus of the article. Mooonswimmer 10:17, 19 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Waqar💬 15:34, 26 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Women's Senior One Day Trophy → Senior Women's One Day Trophy – The article histories of these articles are complicated. There was consensus to move most of these articles to "Senior Women's" at Talk:Senior Women's One Day Trophy#Requested move 4 November 2021. However, since then, someone has moved pages to the "Women's Senior" name, and these 3 articles were then involved in a WP:Cut and paste move which I reverted procedurely. As such, would be good to get consensus and consistency for all articles in this series. I support the "Senior Women's" name as per the 2021 RM (in which I participated). Joseph2302 (talk) 13:57, 19 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Waqar💬 15:34, 26 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Muhammad XII of Granada → Muhammad XII – According to WP:NCROY,
only use a territorial designation (e.g. country) when disambiguation is needed.
There were no other Muhammad XIIs in history. Aintabli (talk) 15:31, 18 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Waqar💬 15:32, 26 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Brothers in Arms (organization) → Brothers and Sisters in Arms – name change requested by organization and name in Hebrew is better represented by new title Omer Toledano (talk) 03:32, 15 August 2024 (UTC) This is a contested technical request (permalink). Omer Toledano (talk) 02:54, 18 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Waqar💬 15:31, 26 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Christian Conrad Sophus Danneskiold-Samsøe → Christian Conrad Sophus Danneskiold-Samsøe (Danish nobleman, born 1774) – or possibly just "... (nobleman, born 1xxx)". Per pageviews, neither of these seems dominant over the other in readership interest. We don't ordinarily use complete lifespan ranges for disambiguation of people. It is possible that one or both of these people's names can be simplified to just "Christian Danneskiold-Samsøe" (with or without some parenthetical disambiguator); the article about the one born in 1836 says he is "normally referred to as Christian Danneskiold-Samsøe", but as a cautionary note, there were a lot of Christians in the Danneskiold-Samsøe family line. — BarrelProof (talk) 18:57, 17 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Waqar💬 15:31, 26 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – LGBTI issues at the Olympic and Paralympic Games → LGBTI history of the Olympic and Paralympic Games – We need a parent article about the intersection of the LGBT community and the Olympic Games, but I do not believe we should include "issues" in the title. Open to alternative titles, but starting with this proposal to get the ball rolling per discussion above. Note: I had proposed moving certain sections of this article to LGBT and the Olympic Games, but the page was redirected. Please help determine a better title. Thanks! --Another Believer (Talk) 14:29, 26 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – A Very Harold & Kumar Christmas → A Very Harold & Kumar 3D Christmas – The poster uses this title, as do 25 out of 29 movie reviews sampled in Metacritic; the Chicago Reader, Washington Post, Chicago Tribune, and Boxoffice pro are the outliers. Thus, current title should be reverted to give previous one due weight. Nineteen Ninety-Four guy (talk) 13:26, 26 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Izumo Nankin goldfish → Izumo Nankin – No disambiguation needed, see Shunkin as name format. Gryffindor (talk) 12:47, 26 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Jikin goldfish → Jikin – No disambiguation needed, see other goldfish such as Shubunkin and Shukin for name format. Gryffindor (talk) 12:44, 26 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Para Olvidarte De Mí → Para olvidarte de mí – Title of Spanish-language musical work; should be lowercased in line with Wikidata listing. (Latter link just passed AFC a while ago.) Slgrandson (How's my egg-throwing coleslaw?) 11:43, 26 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Nipple delay → Nipple-sparing mastectomy – The proposed title is clearer than the current ambiguous title, and matches the form of use in most of the cited references. A direct move isn't possible for technical reasons. Klbrain (talk) 10:43, 26 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Piecewise property → Piecewise – The "piecewise" isn’t a property in the way, say, the continuity is a property of a function. The same point has been made by other editors at Talk:Piecewise_function#Requested_move_20_July_2024. Taku (talk) 08:08, 26 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Albrecht von Bernstorff → Albrecht von Bernstorff (Prussian diplomat, born 1809) – or the second one could be moved to Albrecht Graf von Bernstorff (German resistor). Both of these people were named Albrecht Graf von Bernstorff. That name redirects to Albrecht von Bernstorff, but the article about Albrecht Graf von Bernstorff (1890-1945) is actually about twice as popular with Wikipedia readers (pageviews here). Wikipedia doesn't ordinarily use lifespan ranges for disambiguation of people. Both of them were Prussian diplomats. I suspect the one born in 1890 is more notable for his resistance to Nazi Germany than for his service as a diplomat. — BarrelProof (talk) 00:46, 19 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 05:01, 26 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Mastering (audio) → Mastering engineer – Basically a procedural RM I promised to hold after the merge discussion above, and promptly forgot about. I hold no strong feelings one way or the other Pinging original participants; BrigadierG NicolausPrime Slatersteven Popcornfud InDimensional BappleBusiness Mach61 01:59, 26 August 2024 (UTC)
August 25, 2024
- (Discuss) – Eluned Morgan, Baroness Morgan of Ely → Eluned Morgan – Once upon a time, this article was moved from Eluned Morgan (politician) to the current title as a better way to disambiguate, in line with WP:NCPEER – the previous move discussion can be found above. However, now that this article has been found to be the primary topic of "Eluned Morgan" since her selection as first minister of Wales, I think there is a prima facie case that we can omit her peerage from the article title, as it's no longer needed for disambiguation, and she isn't using her noble title while serving as first minister and on leave of absence from the House of Lords. Moreover, the BBC have started referring to her as "Ms Morgan". — RAVENPVFF · talk · 23:49, 25 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Kong Xueer → Snow Kong – As per WP:COMMONNAME, she is mostly known as Snow Kong rather than her birth name - Jjpachano (talk) 23:04, 25 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Throb → Throb (TV series) – I strongly doubt that an obscure late 80s sitcom is the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC for the word "Throb", given other works by that title and the common usage of the word in other contexts. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 22:21, 25 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Twitter → X (social network) – Before reading this move request, the comments written on the move requests I opened on this article and Twitter under Elon Musk should be read. I am opening this move request for a second and final time given wbm1058's closure of the latter move request two days ago, which is well-articulated and notes that the AP Stylebook no longer requires "X, formerly known as Twitter", as mentioned by an editor here. The New York Times does not mention Twitter unless in reference to an action or statement made prior to July 2023. The strongest argument that opponents of a move have—that Twitter is the common name—is a difficult claim to substantiate, even with fallible Google Trends data. The page notice and WP:COMMONNAME defer to reliable sources. Efforts to move this article in the past were premature. In terms of the claim that the history and cultural impact of Twitter should bear weight, I note that Guaranteed Rate Field is named such, though many continue to refer to the South Side baseball field as Comiskey Park. The use of parentheses in the proposed move target is unfortunate, but Wikipedia does not always decide what products are named. If X was the original name of Twitter, this article would be named appropriately. Threads (social network) is not named P92 or Project 92 because of an aversion of parentheses. This move request should not cover the status of Twitter under Elon Musk, though discussing a page move if this article is moved would not be improper. As wbm1058 stated, "scope-changing issues are problematic with project guidelines." Consensus would have been solidified if moving Twitter under Elon Musk to X (social network) had not been proposed. elijahpepe@wikipedia (he/him) 22:13, 25 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Spede → Spede (disambiguation) – Spede Pasanen is clearly the primary topic. Both of the other entries were named after him, one indirectly as some kind of homage, the other directly as the whole film was about him. JIP | Talk 22:06, 25 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Mensendieck system → Bess Mensendieck – The article is primarily about the person, her life and work Nikolaj1905 (talk) 19:38, 25 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Campo de Fútbol de Vallecas → Estadio de Vallecas – WP:COMMONNAME. EpicAdventurer (talk) 19:10, 25 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Slash-and-burn → Slash-and-burn agriculture – I think the current title is a bit unclear for those who are unfamiliar with the topic. It's not needed for disambiguation, but I think this would be an improvement nonetheless. PhotographyEdits (talk) 18:47, 25 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Reeves AN/MSQ-1 Close Support Control Set → AN/MSQ-1 – It is common practice when naming articles for devices which use the American military JETDS naming convention for the article to be either AN/MSQ-1 or including the system name and type like AN/MSQ-1 Coordinate Data Set. For many examples, see Category:Military electronics of the United States. This would make the page far easier to locate since most users will search for either "AN/MSQ-1" or "AN/MSQ-1 Close Support Control Set" (the redirect already exists for that one). It is not typical across Wikipedia to place the Manufacturer into the article name, such as Reeves AN/MSQ-1. I am not able to find any examples like that. But I am open to ideas. Please share your thoughts — TadgStirkland401 (TadgTalk) 22:24, 16 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Waqar💬 18:34, 25 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – H2X → AN/APS-15 – The article's lede immediately identifies that the only system discussed is the AN/APS-15. It is common practice when naming articles for devices which use the American military JETDS naming convention for the article to be like either "AN/APS-15" or including the system name and type like "AN/APS-15 H2X radar". For many examples, see Category:Military electronics of the United States. This move would make the page far easier to locate since most users will search for either AN/APS-15 or AN/APS-15 H2X radar. But I am open to ideas. Please share your thoughts — TadgStirkland401 (TadgTalk) 21:20, 16 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Waqar💬 18:33, 25 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Martin AN/FSG-1 Antiaircraft Defense System → AN/FSG-1 – It is common practice when naming articles for devices which use the American military JETDS naming convention for the article to be either AN/FSG-1 or including the system name and type like AN/FSG-1 antiaircraft system (the redirect already exists for that one). For many examples, see Category:Military electronics of the United States. This would make the page far easier to locate since most users will search for "AN/FSG-1" as opposed to "Martin AN/FSG-1". But I am open to ideas. Please share your thoughts — TadgStirkland401 (TadgTalk) 22:11, 16 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Waqar💬 18:33, 25 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Martin AN/TSQ-8 Coordinate Data Set → AN/TSQ-8 – It is common practice when naming articles for devices which use the American military JETDS naming convention for the article to be either AN/TSQ-8 or including the system name and type like AN/TSQ-8 Coordinate Data Set. For many examples, see Category:Military electronics of the United States. This would make the page far easier to locate since most users will search for either "AN/TSQ-8" or "AN/TSQ-8 Coordinate Data Set". It is not typical across Wikipedia to place the Manufacturer into the article name, such as Martin AN/TSQ-8. I am not able to find any examples like that. But I am open to ideas. Please share your thoughts — TadgStirkland401 (TadgTalk) 22:18, 16 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Waqar💬 18:33, 25 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Westinghouse AN/FPS-27 Radar → AN/FPS-27 – It is common practice when naming articles for devices which use the American military JETDS naming convention for the article to be like either AN/FPS-27 or including the system name and type like AN/FPS-27 radar. For many examples, see Category:Military electronics of the United States. This would make the page far easier to locate since most users will search for either "AN/FPS-27" or "AN/FPS-27 radar". But I am open to ideas. Please share your thoughts — TadgStirkland401 (TadgTalk) 21:44, 16 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Waqar💬 18:33, 25 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Jacqueline Kennedy Onassis → Jacqueline Kennedy – Per WP:COMMONNAME. Her sister's (Lee Radziwill) and mother's name (Janet Lee Bouvier) are both married names they are best known by, not of their subsequent marriages, as are those of every 20th-century U.S. first lady. Further adding: her fame comes from her being first lady and her connection to the Kennedys. She did not become famous because of her second marriage and remained known as "former first lady". Historically now, she is known as "Mrs. Kennedy" or "Jackie/Jacqueline Kennedy" by historians and in books, films, bios, etc. Omnis Scientia (talk) 13:37, 25 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – 2024 Red Sea oil spill → ? – Other oil spills occurred in the Red Sea this year, such as the Rubymar and Chios Lion, making the current title ambiguous. I think that the title should be changed into something more precise, such as August 2024 Red Sea oil spill or Attacks on the MT Delta Sounion. Chomik! (talk?) 13:30, 25 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Philippine Senate hearing on the Kingdom of Jesus Christ → Philippine Senate hearing on alleged Kingdom of Jesus Christ abuses – Per WP:PRECISE, as the hearing was specifically about abuses within the organization, not the organization itself. The necessity of including the word "alleged" is per WP:NPOVTITLE; this passes the WP:NDESC rule on use of that word, as there is an actual accusation. Bagoto (talk) 12:07, 25 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Reeves AN/MSQ-77 Bomb Directing Central → AN/MSQ-77 – It is common practice when naming articles for devices which use the American military JETDS naming convention for the article to be either AN/MSQ-77 or including the system name and type like AN/MSQ-77 Bomb Directing Central. For many examples, see Category:Military electronics of the United States. This would make the page far easier to locate since most users will search for either "AN/MSQ-77" or "AN/MSQ-77 Bomb Directing Central" (the redirect already exists for that one). It is not typical across Wikipedia to place the Manufacturer into the article name, such as Reeves AN/MSQ-77. I am not able to find any examples like that. But I am open to ideas. Please share your thoughts — TadgStirkland401 (TadgTalk) 22:29, 16 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. RodRabelo7 (talk) 11:32, 25 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Reading Beans 12:03, 25 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – 2024 Gaza Strip polio epidemic → 2024 Gaza Strip polio outbreak – There's still a small number of cases, and a prompt vaccination campaign could hopefully avert an epidemic. FourPi (talk) 11:09, 25 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Islamic terrorism in Europe → Jihadist terrorism in Europe – The current page title is at odds and inconsistent with the page contents. The first paragraph begins by outlining the topic as terrorism perpetrated by jihadist groups and individuals, which Europol has defined since 2015 as "jihadist terrorism". The definition section then explains the meaning of "jihadism" and the page features the "Jihadism" series template. If the topic is defined in this way by the principal body monitoring this activity, as well as in the definition section and other parts of the page, "jihadist terrorism" would seem to be the correct terminology for the topic. It is also more specific and precise than "Islamist terrorism", of which "jihadist terrorism" is a subset. "Islamic terrorism" is a generally poor term that is essentially shorthand for "Islamic extremist terrorism", but here the far better and more specific term to use is "jihadist terrorism" - hence the usage by Europol and here for practically every entry throughout this list. Iskandar323 (talk) 09:38, 25 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Every Time I Feel the Spirit → Every Time I Feel the Spirit (album) – Album takes its title from the spiritual song, which has been around logner. Despite currently being tagged for notability, I feel most Black spirituals of this sort have a long musical history and are likely to be the primary topic of any disambiguation unless there is compelling evidence to the contrary. Compare How Great Thou Art, which took the primary topic above multiple albums of the same name. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 01:44, 18 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Frost 07:08, 25 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Prince Chun (淳) → ? – Having a non-English disambiguation isn't helpful on en.Wikipedia where most of the readers except to read text in English. I have no idea what the correct disambiguation is here, but I'm hopeful someone here would. See related discussion Talk:Prince Rui (created 1636)#Requested move 24 July 2024. Gonnym (talk) 07:37, 17 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Frost 07:04, 25 August 2024 (UTC)
- Prince Chun (純) → ?
- Prince Chun (醇) → ?
- (Discuss) – Blink-182 (album) → ? – "blink-182" is the incorrect name of the album 72.219.183.28 (talk) 06:21, 25 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – August 2024 Lebanon strikes → August 2024 Israel–Lebanon strikes – Israel's strikes and Hezbollah's response are equally notable and should be equally covered. elijahpepe@wikipedia (he/him) 03:48, 25 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Don Stewart (Ontario politician) → Don Stewart (Canadian politician) – Don Stewart is a federal politician. He should be referred to as Canadian because of that, as is already the case of the opening of the article. "Ontario politician" is a more appropriate designation for members of Ontario's Provincial Parliament, not the House of Commons. Patriot of Canuckistan (talk) 01:43, 25 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – CSRA → CSRA (disambiguation) – Most people call it by its abbreviation, CSRA. I rarely hear people say
Central Savannah River Area
. 2600:1700:6180:6290:733D:7474:E0C2:99BC (talk) 00:38, 25 August 2024 (UTC)
August 24, 2024
- (Discuss) – Puff-puff (Akira Toriyama) → Puff-puff (Dragon Quest) – The term and associated scenes is by far the most widely known from Dragon Quest, making its original name more appropriate. The origins of its parodies in other series almost certainly stem from Dragon Quest's wide popularity in Japan as well. While Toriyama may have used it in Dragon Ball beforehand, it's just confusing to not associate it with Dragon Quest when there is no evidence it's all over his other works and the fact that it was even used in Dragon Ball first feels like more of a geeky trivia note than relevant. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 23:00, 24 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – NEXT (Korean band) → NEXT (South Korean band) – Not looking to discuss the all-caps aspect again (a consensus was reached in 2022.) However, "South Korean band" is the usual disambiguation tag, consistent with South Korea and Category:South Korean musical groups. 162 etc. (talk) 22:38, 24 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Khanty language → Khanty languages – Agglomeration of mutually unintelligible varieties 🪐Kepler-1229b | talk | contribs🪐 16:42, 24 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – TVN (Panamanian TV network) → Televisora Nacional – Official channel name VenezuelanSpongeBobFan2004 (talk) 15:48, 24 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Hiroshima Telecasting → Hiroshima Television – Current station name VenezuelanSpongeBobFan2004 (talk) 15:32, 24 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Jonathan Rowe (footballer) → Jonathan Rowe – Per WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. There is no other notable person with the WP:COMMONNAME of "Jonathan Rowe" on the English Wikipedia. On the Jonathan Rowe disambiguation page, there is another Jonathan Rowe who is a deceased journalist who wrote in the Point Reyes Light (newspaper), but who does not have an article of his own. There are also two Johnny Rowes, one of which is Johnny Rowe (footballer), an English footballer of the 1930s. Since there is no other article with a person that goes by "Jonathan Rowe", this page's title can be changed to that. I would also suggest moving Johnny Rowe (footballer) to Johnny Rowe and deleting the dab page altogether, at it serves little purpose, as there are only non-notable individuals on it apart from Jonathan and Johnny Rowe the footballers. A simple hatnote can be left for people not to mix up "Jonathan Rowe" and "Johnny Rowe". They go by different first names and were born a century apart so mix-ups shouldn't happen. Paul Vaurie (talk) 13:26, 24 August 2024 (UTC)
- Jonathan Rowe → Jonathan Rowe (disambiguation) over redirect without leaving a redirect (implied), then WP:G14 delete if unnecessary
- Johnny Rowe (footballer) → Johnny Rowe
- (Discuss) – Groups of Khalistan movement → List of Khalistani separatist organizations – It has been suggested that the article "Groups of Khalistan movement" should be renamed as "List of Khalistani separatist organizations" for better understanding of the subject. -- 2409:4055:39A:AC48:0:0:F01:10AD (talk) 09:33, 24 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Sloboda → Sloboda (settlement) – Everything I said three months ago in #Requested move 22 May 2024 still holds, we just had so little interest. In summary, there is no primary topic here. I believe I addressed the sole complaint. Here's hoping we'll get more people to read this now. In the meantime, the usage statistics continue to show the same picture of a lack of a primary topic, the topics most commonly navigated to are consistently not about the settlement meaning. Clickstreams from the last three months
From meta:Research:Wikipedia clickstream: :clickstream-enwiki-2024-05.tsv: :* Sloboda Sloboda_Ukraine link 28 :* Sloboda Sloboda_(disambiguation) link 12 :* Sloboda Boyar link 12 :* total: 52 to 3 identified destinations :clickstream-enwiki-2024-06.tsv: :* Sloboda Sloboda_Ukraine link 32 :* Sloboda Sloboda_(disambiguation) link 12 :* Sloboda Boyar link 12 :* total: 56 to 3 identified destinations :clickstream-enwiki-2024-07.tsv: :* Sloboda Sloboda_(disambiguation) link 17 :* Sloboda Sloboda_Ukraine link 16 :* Sloboda Boyar link 13 :* total: 46 to 3 identified destinations Even if we're unsure, I say we should move it and then do the same measurements again later, and see if reader behavior indicates we need to keep or revert. -- Joy (talk) 08:14, 24 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Marcelo Suárez → Marcelo Suárez (Uruguayan footballer) – no WP:PRIMARYTOPIC Joeykai (talk) 04:49, 9 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 08:05, 16 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 07:59, 24 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Ryan Binkley → Ryan Binkley 2024 presidential campaign – A few months have passed and I'm hoping that will help my case here. The sourcing in the article clearly meets WP:GNG for the campaign but Binkly himself has not seen notable coverage. As far as I can tell, nothing notable has been written about Binkley since he suspended his campaign. Esolo5002 (talk) 07:08, 24 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – KJS → KJS (JavaScript engine) – According to a cursory Google search [38], there is no primary topic, and this KDE product has no prominence at all (even though it is the root of Apple Safari's and Google Chrome's JavaScript engines). Considering the state of the article, editors also do not consider it a very prominent topic. -- 64.229.88.34 (talk) 04:19, 24 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Kamala Harris's tenure as Attorney General of California → Kamala Harris as Attorney General of California – Per WP:CONCISE and this discussion. estar8806 (talk) ★ 04:16, 24 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Richmond, California, City Council → Richmond City Council (California) – The ", California" is not part of the proper name of the body which makes the capitalized "City Council" improper. See Talk:Portland City Council (Maine)#Requested move 7 January 2023 and Richmond City Council (British Columbia) Gimelthedog (talk) 03:22, 24 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Duluth, Minnesota City Council → Duluth City Council – The ", Minnesota" is not part of the proper name of the body which makes the capitalized "City Council" improper. I would suggest removing the state name since it is likely the most recognizable Duluth City Council and the only one with an article. Alternatively moving to Duluth City Council (Minnesota), see Talk:Portland City Council (Maine)#Requested move 7 January 2023 Gimelthedog (talk) 03:20, 24 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Burlington, Vermont City Council → Burlington City Council (Vermont) – The ", Vermont" is not part of the proper name of the body which makes the capitalized "City Council" improper. See Talk:Portland City Council (Maine)#Requested move 7 January 2023 Gimelthedog (talk) 03:11, 24 August 2024 (UTC)
Elapsed listings
- (Discuss) – Johannes Enschedé (1708-1780) → Johannes Enschedé (printer, born 1708) – This printer was the first in a line of four roughly similar people named Johannes Enschedé. He ran a prominent similarly named company called Joh. Enschedé. Wikipedia doesn't ordinarily use lifespan ranges for disambiguation of people (especially with a hyphen). — BarrelProof (talk) 01:13, 24 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – List of Weymouth–Channel Islands Sailing Packets (1794-1826) → List of Weymouth–Channel Islands sailing packets – I think that in this case, a sailing packet is a category of ship, and "sailing packets" should be lowercase. The (hyphenated) date range seems to be unnecessary disambiguation. — BarrelProof (talk) 00:45, 24 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – List of Moderators of the General Assembly of the Church of Scotland → List of moderators of the General Assembly of the Church of Scotland – Pretty straightforward case of MOS:JOBTITLES: "moderators" is never a proper noun when it's plural (e.g. List of presidents of the United States and List of prime ministers of the United Kingdom). Woko Sapien (talk) 18:36, 23 August 2024 (UTC)
- List of Moderators of the Presbyterian Church in Ireland → List of moderators of the Presbyterian Church in Ireland
- List of Moderators of the General Assembly of the Presbyterian Church in the United States of America → List of moderators of the General Assembly of the Presbyterian Church in the United States of America
- List of Moderators of the General Assembly of the Presbyterian Church (USA) → List of moderators of the General Assembly of the Presbyterian Church (USA)
- List of Moderators of the General Assembly of the United Presbyterian Church in the United States of America → List of moderators of the General Assembly of the United Presbyterian Church in the United States of America
- List of Moderators of the General Assembly of the Presbyterian Church in the United States → List of moderators of the General Assembly of the Presbyterian Church in the United States
- List of Moderators of the General Assembly of the United Presbyterian Church of North America → List of moderators of the General Assembly of the United Presbyterian Church of North America
- List of Moderators of the General Assembly of the Orthodox Presbyterian Church → List of moderators of the General Assembly of the Orthodox Presbyterian Church
- (Discuss) – PARE (aviation) → PARE – This seems to be the only "PARE" on the English Wikipedia apart from the clearly secondary (even just from a web search) "Physiological and Anatomical Rodent Experiment" mentioned at STS-54. 1234qwer1234qwer4 17:41, 23 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Michelle Smith → Michelle Smith (swimmer) – There are nine women and one man listed upon the Michelle Smith (disambiguation) page, with no strong indication that the Olympian from 28 years ago has retained historical renown sufficient to dwarf the combined notability of the remaining eight women. As an alternative option, I would support retaining Michelle Smith as primary among the women named "Michelle", but moving Michelle Smith (disambiguation) → Michele Smith. Among the eight women who have English Wikipedia articles, five are named "Michelle" and three are named "Michele", thus dropping the parenthetical qualifier "(disambiguation)" still appears to be relatively evenhanded and users researching the swimmer would not lose their ability to access her entry directly [the two WP:DABMENTIONS are the entry for co-author of Michelle Remembers and the redirect for male sportsman Michele Smith (cyclist)]. —Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 16:51, 23 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Roar (vocalization) → Roar – Animal vocalization is the clear primary topic with the most long-term significance. Disambiguating it seems similar to if Apple was disambiguated to separate the fruit from the company. In dictionaries, the entries for 'roar' have no other definitions than animal vocalization, or topics related to making a loud sound. Other articles get more page views, but animal vocalization has more significance as a large portion of the articles listed on the current disambiguation page take their name from animal vocalization as either a metaphor or a derivative. On JSTOR, "roar" returns either results about animal vocalization or as metaphors of it. Note: A technical request for this move was contested prior to this requested move. Svampesky (talk) 16:51, 23 August 2024 (UTC)
- Roar → Roar (disambiguation) over redirect without leaving a redirect (implied), then WP:G14 delete if unnecessary
- (Discuss) – 2024 Kenya Cricket World Cup Challenge League A → 2024 Cricket World Cup Challenge League A – no need for mentioning the hosts in title, sources refer to it as just "Cricket World Cup Challenge League A" thus, it is the WP:COMMONNAME. For example here are some sources from the previous cycle, [39][40][41][42][43][44][45][46][47][48]. Vestrian24Bio (TALK) 16:41, 23 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Kick a Goal → Shooting Stars – https://tv.apple.com/us/show/shooting-stars/umc.cmc.5nuhfymikhkppkz4hbjkhutqm 222.108.25.249 (talk) 07:25, 16 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Waqar💬 16:16, 23 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – List of F4 and EF4 tornadoes (1950–1959) → List of F4 tornadoes (1950–1959) – EF scale was not introduced until 2007, unsure if the IF scale has been used to retroactively rate tornadoes from this period but almost every tornado from this period was rated on the F scale. Adding a discussion because I'm currently unsure whether the fact no EF scale tornadoes existed is more or less important than the consistency from year-to-year lists. GeorgeMemulous (talk) 13:32, 16 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Waqar💬 16:16, 23 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – TV Osaka → Television Osaka – Official company name VenezuelanSpongeBobFan2004 (talk) 08:30, 16 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Waqar💬 16:16, 23 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Total Express Linhas Aéreas → Total Express – Per WP:COMMONNAME. PhotographyEdits (talk) 12:05, 16 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Waqar💬 16:16, 23 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Locks-and-keys → Locks-and-keys (computing) – Retarget to "Locks-and-keys" to Lock and key as the primary topic. * Pppery * it has begun... 16:09, 23 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Ancient near eastern cosmology → Cosmology in the ancient Near East – Or at the very least Ancient Near Eastern cosmology—I have no idea how this hasn't gotten properly capitalized yet. Remsense ‥ 论 12:35, 23 August 2024 (UTC)
Backlog
- (Discuss) – Life of Charles Townshend (1861-1914) → Early life and career of Charles Townshend (British Army officer) – or just delete these or remerge them back into Charles Townshend (British Army officer). The "1861-1914" timespan in the title of the first of these articles looks like it is a lifespan range, perhaps to identify which Charles Townshend is being discussed, but that's not what it is. These two articles are about the same Charles Townshend who is covered in the article entitled Charles Townshend (British Army officer). Townshend lived another 10 years after 1914 and had further major events in his career until retiring in 1920. The timespan actually indicates the years of Townshend's life that are covered by a content fork subarticle that was created at 01:12, 15 May 2023 (UTC) by A.S. Brown
(an indef-blocked sockpuppet acccount), saying "Start article to deal with the length problems on the main article". There was also apparently another article similarly created at Life of Charles Townshend (1914-1924) at 01:14, 15 May 2023 (UTC) by A.S. Brown to cover the remaining decade of Townshend's life, and Tbhotch then moved that one to Life of Charles Townshend (British Army officer) at 07:58, 18 September 2023 (UTC), saying "Matched main". — BarrelProof (talk) 00:40, 23 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Te Whatu Ora → Health New Zealand - Te Whatu Ora – Per WP:OFFICIALNAMES, WP:COMMONNAME Lluq (talk) 00:57, 24 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. ToadetteEdit (talk) 18:36, 22 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – De La Salle Green Spikers volleyball → De La Salle Green Archers volleyball – The above existing pages have titles that do emulate the placement of a disambiguating sports descriptor after the team name, per WP:QUALIFIER. This style of adding descriptors has been prescribed by example by, among other similar college-sports WikiProjects, this page under WP:CBBALL and this page under WP:CFB for titles of pages about United States college teams. Clearly, these descriptors were prescribed in order to naturally disambiguate (by WP:NATURAL) a page about a team playing a certain sport from pages about namesake teams that are playing in other sports. In each of the team pages above being requested for moving, however, 1) the team name used is not that of its institution's team's uniform or collective name but the special nickname or unique moniker given to that specific team playing in its sport, so much so that the need for disambiguation disappears. 2) what is produced by the addition of a disambiguating sport descriptor after the team's special nickname is a redundancy. For example, there are no other De La Salle Green Spikers other than the De La Salle Green Archers team playing men's volleyball. For having a redundant title, the page's title then creates WP:OVERPRECISION and breaches the WP:CONCISE rule. That, however, can be salvaged by replacing the special moniker with the institution's team's uniform or collective name, a replacement which is what would have the need for disambiguation and erase the redundancy. Bagoto (talk) 09:04, 25 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 18:46, 4 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. ToadetteEdit (talk) 17:48, 9 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Reading Beans 12:36, 20 August 2024 (UTC)
- De La Salle Lady Spikers volleyball → De La Salle Lady Archers volleyball
- De La Salle Lady Booters football → De La Salle Lady Archers football
- UST Golden Spikers volleyball → UST Growling Tigers volleyball
- UST Golden Tigresses volleyball → UST Tigresses volleyball
- UST Lady Booters football → UST Tigresses football
- (Discuss) – Voepass Linhas Aéreas → Voepass – Per WP:COMMONNAME PhotographyEdits (talk) 09:07, 12 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 06:18, 19 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – All-Russia State Television and Radio Broadcasting Company → VGTRK – Concise title and WP:COMMONNAME. 5.32.37.218 (talk) 08:06, 12 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 05:59, 19 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Caritas Institute of Higher Education → Saint Francis University (Hong Kong) – The institute had acquired university title and renamed "Saint Francis University" under approval from the Hong Kong government on 9 January 2024 (more than 7 months ago). The institute uses the new name across its website and communication materials. Media, including South China Morning Post (1, 2) and The Standard, adopted the new name in their articles. The Hong Kong government Security Bureau also uses the new name. Cfls (talk) 07:08, 12 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 05:57, 19 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Armand Duplantis → Mondo Duplantis – He uses his nickname instead of his full name on all the major social media sites and Mondo Duplantis seems very common in news coverage as well. The combination of these two factors prompted me to start a discussion on how to name the article. Killuminator (talk) 12:49, 11 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 05:50, 19 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Family tree of Chinese monarchs (ancient) → Family tree of Chinese monarchs (before 256 BCE) – Likewise: * (early) → (221 BCE – 453 CE) * (middle) → (453–1279) * (late) → (1279–1912) I know each of these boundaries are problematic (Genghis Khan is included in "late" for example, but frankly the core of it is correct and it would help guide readers much better than "early", "middle", and "late". The current Remsense诉 09:53, 3 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Waqar💬 15:01, 11 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 05:47, 19 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Chris Sheppard (DJ) → Chris Sheppard – Primary per pageviews, the Canadian musician is getting over 90% of clicks.[49] Delete dabpage per WP:ONEOTHER. 162 etc. (talk) 18:48, 17 August 2024 (UTC)
- Chris Sheppard → Chris Sheppard (disambiguation) over redirect without leaving a redirect (implied), then WP:G14 delete if unnecessary
- (Discuss) – Mass Transit incident (professional wrestling) → Mass Transit incident – Unnecessary disambiguation. There is currently a dabpage at Mass transit incident which should be deleted; none of those things are commonly known as "mass transit incidents" in any reliable sources. 162 etc. (talk) 18:55, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Power Five conferences → Power Four conferences – The Pac-12 has lost all but two members following recent college football realignment, and the vast majority of reliable sources now refer to a group of "Power Four conferences" instead of "Power Five conferences". Although media usage of the term (and its reflection on the media's underlying opinion of the strength of the conferences) should be the decisive factor, it is also relevant that the Pac-12 lost its status in 2024 as an "autonomy conference", which the other four power conferences have. See the second paragraph of this old edit for a slew of sources about how the Power Four has supplanted the Power Five. Orser67 (talk) 17:50, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – 2024 Kolkata rape and murder incident → 2024 Kolkata rape and murder – Incident was pointlessly added to the title in an undiscussed move. 2A00:23EE:1928:8C3:951B:C401:3A56:519A (talk) 15:17, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Killing of Hae Min Lee → Murder of Hae Min Lee – I'm aware that this has been discussed before, and that the consensus was not to move the page. However, there is an argument for restoring the previous title that was not considered during the previous RM.
WP:CONSISTENT states:To the extent that it is practical, titles should be consistent among articles covering similar topics
. In this case, multiple other pages on similar topics (i.e. cases in which a murder conviction was obtained but overturned and no other perpetrator was brought to justice) use the prefix "Murder of..." rather than "Killing of...". These include Murder of Maxwell Confait, Murder of Wendy Sewell, Murder of Alison Shaughnessy, Murder of Keith Blakelock, Murder of Marie Wilks, and Murder of Linda Cook. Like in these cases, Adnan Syed's conviction has been vacated (albeit this is being reviewed) and nobody else has been found guilty of killing Hae Min Lee, so the title should be changed to be consistent with the other articles. An argument was made by @Tamzin: thatThere is no way to call this the "Murder of Hae Min Lee" without risking the implication that Syed's murder conviction remains valid
, but as it is widely known that his conviction is not in fact valid (indeed, this is likely the reason most people have heard of the case) I don't agree that this is the case. Nobody is going to read the word "murder" in the title and construe it as a proclamation that Adnan Syed is and remains her murderer for all time: the only thing people will take away from it is that she was murdered. TRCRF22 (talk) 14:41, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Sergiy → Serhii – 1.More results, 2.MOS:UKR.--MykolaHK (talk) 13:00, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Southeastern (train operating company, 2006–2021) → Southeastern (2006–2021 train operating company) – I think its more natural way of disambiguating TOCs by years. It matches Banana (1986 video game), but since it contains two years, I am not sure if its acceptable. [updated 22:27 16 August 2024] just also note that the original title was Southeastern (train operating company 2006–2021) (without the comma) which is option C if it needs to be move back to that. What do you guys think? JuniperChill (talk) 10:04, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Lady Henry Somerset → Lady Isabella Somerset – As mentioned in the article, this person "won the court case in 1878 and resumed the style of Lady Isabella Somerset", and after 1878 she used "Lady Isabella Somerset" as her official style. Because of this name change, the article title of this person in the Oxford Dictionary of National Biography is "Somerset [née Somers-Cocks], Lady Isabella Caroline [Lady Henry Somerset]", and the ODNB calls her "Lady Isabella" in the article. The British Museum also registers her as "Lady Isabella Somerset". There is also an academic article which calls her "Lady Isabella Somerset". According to Wikipedia:Article_titles#Name_changes, "When this [a change of name] occurs, we give extra weight to independent, reliable, English-language sources ("reliable sources" for short) written after the name change". Since this person is called "Lady Isabella Somerset" in recent reliable sources, the name of the article should be "Lady Isabella Somerset". The move was already proposed in 2017, but it was not performed. saebou (talk) 08:04, 14 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 21:44, 21 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. FOARP (talk) 08:25, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Air raids on Australia, 1942–1943 → Air raids on Australia – There was only one, see "Air raids on Japan" as format. Gryffindor (talk) 11:40, 25 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 19:08, 1 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 23:07, 8 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 08:07, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Israel–Hamas war → Israel–Gaza war – Despite the move request to Israel-Gaza war being closed as no consensus in February 2024, a lot has changed since then and RS have converged to use this name. This move is long overdue and aligns with the relevant Wikipedia guidelines of WP:COMMONNAME and WP:NAMECHANGE. RS per WP that uses the Israel-Gaza war name as the title of their coverage category: * The Guardian:
Israel-Gaza war
* The Washington Post:Israel-Gaza war
* BBC:Israel-Gaza war
* NPR:Israel-Gaza war
* The Conservation:Israel-Gaza war
* Al Jazeera:Israel's war on Gaza
Other RS that uses the Israel-Gaza war name as the title of their coverage category: * Doctors Without Borders:Israel-Gaza war
* Committee to Protect Journalists:Israel-Gaza conflict
* The National:Israel-Gaza war
* Middle East Eye:Israel's war on Gaza
RS per WP that uses the Israel-Gaza war in their coverage: * Reuters: [50], [51], [52]:Israel-Gaza war
* CBS news: [53]Israel-Gaza war
* Vox: [54], [55]:Israel's war in Gaza
This name change would also align with a third Wikipedia guideline, all five of the WP:CRITERIA one, namely #5 on Consistency, as this would align with Gaza War (2008–2009) and 2014 Gaza war. Makeandtoss (talk) 10:05, 13 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Palestinian territories → Occupied Palestinian Territory – This terminology has become standard across all official sources, the United Nations, itself and in its resolutions, and at the International Court of Justice (ICJ), in 2004 and reaffirmed in 2024, the EU and in many secondary sources. The ICJ concluded that the West Bank and Gaza are a single territorial unit: However, the Court recalls that, from a legal standpoint, the Occupied Palestinian Territory constitutes a single territorial unit, the unity, contiguity and integrity of which is to be preserved and respected. Thus, all references in this Opinion to the Occupied Palestinian Territory are references to this single territorial unit. Although still used in sources, and should remain as an aka, the existing title is currently an anachronism. Note that the OPT is also equivalent geographically to the area claimed by the State of Palestine. Selfstudier (talk) 10:17, 5 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Frost 16:15, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Al-Tabaeen school attack → Al-Tabaeen school massacre – The flowchart on WP:DEATHS makes it clear that as the people are dead -> because of homicide -> not capital punishment -> nobody is convicted, we could go with "Al-Tabaeen school killings", but given the number of people who were killed, I believe massacre is, sadly, appropriate. Foreign ministries across the Arab world have also considered it a massacre, and we refer to other such tragic events - of varying scales - as a massacre (i.e. Bucha massacre, Hoddle Street massacre, Samashki massacre, etc.), so I believe this change is appropriate considering the scale of the incident and the number of dead and wounded as reported by RS within the article. Smallangryplanet (talk) 17:57, 10 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Olympic Pool, Montreal → Olympic Pool (Montreal) – Parentheses are used for North American places. 162 etc. (talk) 18:38, 29 July 2024 (UTC) This is a contested technical request (permalink). 162 etc. (talk) 21:39, 2 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Waqar💬 14:40, 10 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Collingwood Blues (2020–) → Collingwood Blues – The qualifying bookend "(2020–)" is unnecessary. The article relates to an existing ice hockey team. Collingwood Blues (1988–2011) is for the defunct team with the same name. The target page is currently a redirect. Buffalkill (talk) 01:22, 29 July 2024 (UTC) This is a contested technical request (permalink). – robertsky (talk) 02:55, 2 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Waqar💬 14:39, 10 August 2024 (UTC)
- Collingwood Blues → Collingwood Blues (disambiguation) over redirect without leaving a redirect (implied), then WP:G14 delete if unnecessary
- (Discuss) – August 2024 Kursk Oblast incursion → August 2024 Western Russia incursions – accurate description As multiple sources (some listed already in the article) have reported a second incursion in Belgorod Oblast, so the article should be renamed as to August 2024 Western Russia incursions or August 2024 Belgorod and Kursk Oblast incursions to reflect the current situation, Waleed (talk) 09:44, 10 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Samastha Kerala Jem-iyyathul Ulama (AP Sunnis) → Samastha (AP Faction) – no WP:PRIMARYTOPIC Spworld2 (talk) 04:49, 10 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – 2024 Russian prisoner exchange → August 2024 international prisoner exchange – WP:NPOV. Many seem to be unhappy with the current title. Compare:
Alternatives proposed by Gödel2200: August 2024 Russian prisoner exchange, 2024 Ankara prisoner exchange
— Urro[talk][edits] ⋮ 22:08, 9 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Trois-Rivières Aigles → Trois-Rivières Aigles (1971–1977) – Thinking on it, long-term significance leans towards the current team being the primary topic as it's been around longer and has had much more coverage than the defunct affiliated minor league team that only played for seven years some decades ago. The current team has already lasted nearly twice as long as the old team, and shows no signs of going away anytime soon, so in my mind it's proven itself to be the most likely intended subject for someone looking up the team name. oknazevad (talk) 21:10, 1 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. ASUKITE 21:29, 9 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Midland Mainline → Midland Mainline (train operating company) – The last time I requested this, I got the disambiguator tag wrong ('company' rather than 'train operating company'). Since its been a few months, and I am moving this to a different name this time, it should be acceptable (as in, not disruptive) to revisit it again. But anyway, similar to my previous rationale, the Midland Mainline TOC is long gone, and almost everyone searching for this is looking for the mainline, so I propose moving Midland Mainline to Midland Mainline (train operating company) then redirecting Midland Mainline to Midland Main Line. Even Google comes up with Midland Mainline first. I do get WP:SMALLDETAILS but I don't think it applies here since the primary topic is probably the mainline over the TOC. JuniperChill (talk) 19:26, 9 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Ascalon → Ashkelon (ancient city) – Recently, the name of this article was changed from Tel Ashkelon to Ascalon. The rationale was that Ashkelon and Tel Ashkelon are too similar, and that readers cannot be expected to differentiate. It was said that Ascalon is the name of the historical site. This rationale is invalid. The name Ashkelon, is the conventionally accepted name for both the modern city, and the ancient site. In many cases, the name Ashkelon is even used when referring to periods in which it was historically known as Ascalon. This place has at least 20,000 years of history, accros many periods of times. It was a prehistoric site, a Canaanite, Philistine, Hellenistic city, a Crusader city, an Islamic city... We don't always know its actual name, and it has never had a single way to pronounce its name. I am suggesting to change the name to Ashkelon (ancient city). I divided my argument into three parts: (1) Ashkelon and Ascalon are virtually the same and therefore confusing; (2) The toponym for the ancient site is known in maps and sites as "Ashkelon"; (3) the conentional scholarly name for the city in all periods is "Ashkelon", including periods in which it was called in different names. 1. Ascalon and Ashkelon are virtually the same. It is very confusing still. Differetiating them with "ancient city" in brackets makes no mistakes. Another option would've been "Tel Ashkelon", but there were times in which the ancient settlements in Ashkelon were not exactly on the Tel, and the city often controlled a much broader territory. Tel Ashkelon would strictly refer to the antiquties, but the article's scope goes beyond it. Another opition I thought about was "History of Ashkelon", simmilar to how we have "History of Athens", but I think that this might confuse the people who are looking for the history of modern Ashkelon, whose place should be in the article about the modern city. Therefore, I think that Ashkelon (ancient city) is the clearest option for the scope of the article. 2. Location identification: Today, the principal site of ancient Ashkelon is known as Tel Ashkelon. This is a declared national park in Israel, and it apears by that name. The official name of the park is "Ashkelon National Park". I think it makes a lot of sense to assume, that many people who visit Israel as tourist, will likely enter this Wikipedia article. They will not be referred to Ascalon, but to Ashkelon, either Tel Ashkelon (mentioned here, here, here and [56], which were the first results I was given by google. Therefore, the site, as a location, is better identified with Ashkelon rather than Ascalon Bolter21 (talk to me) 11:03, 20 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. ToadetteEdit (talk) 18:04, 9 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Al-Shabaab (Mozambique) → Islamic State – Mozambique Province – I see more results for “Islamic State – Mozambique Province” rather than “Ansar al Sunna/Al Shabaab”. ISIL propaganda also uses the name “Wilayat Muzambiq” (Mozambique Province) when referring to this group’s activities and operations. TheLibyanGuy (talk) 22:37, 25 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Waqar💬 16:52, 7 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Lille OSC → LOSC Lille – The current title is wrong in both WP:COMMONNAME and WP:OFFICIALNAME. Firstly, the club's official name is not "Lille Olympique Sporting Club"-- that's what it used to be. Today, the club's entire official name is "LOSC Lille". "Lille OSC", the current title, is used by nobody both in common and official usage. In media, the club is often referred to as "Lille", "LOSC", and often times as "LOSC Lille". We could move the title to just "LOSC", but since the English-language "short" name for usage in articles is just "Lille", this wouldn't really work smoothly. I say we should go by the club's actual name in this specific case, which is also really commonly used in sources, only third to Lille and LOSC (which I don't believe are valid titles.) Paul Vaurie (talk) 14:29, 7 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – East Asian age reckoning → Age reckoning in the Sinosphere – Rationale explained here: Talk:Sinosphere#Pages using "East Asia" in place of the Sinosphere and in this longer post. Tl;dr, "East Asia" often excludes Vietnam, which is also a part of the Sinosphere. Related previous move discussions that passed: Seals in the Sinosphere and Sixtieth birthday in the Sinosphere. Open to more suggested titles. Alternates: # Sinosphere age reckoning #* I think a little confusing; may suggest trying to determine the age of the Sinosphere itself. # Traditional age reckoning in the Sinosphere #* This is more precise I feel; currently, as far as I'm aware, the entire Sinosphere no longer uses the age reckoning for major applications, mostly just ceremonial. "Age reckoning in x" can be interpreted as a present and not mostly past practice 104.232.119.107 (talk) 10:35, 21 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 10:38, 28 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Queen of Hearts talk 14:34, 4 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Tales of the Jedi (TV series) → Star Wars: Tales – Since this move made nearly three months ago has been objected to, here is an RM. I personally don't agree with the need as consensus was reached on the matter. Never the less, this anthology series had its first installment released as (formally) Star Wars: Tales of the Jedi (commonly Tales of the Jedi) in October 2022, with it announced in April 2023 that it would get a second season (wording used by media outlets, though the quote from Filoni was "Tales of the Jedi was so fun the first time, I decided to do some more.") Subsequently, it was announced a year later in April 2024 that this second "season" was a new "installment", Star Wars: Tales of the Empire (commonly Tales of the Empire). This press release shows the use of both formal names as well as the key quote in my view (and the determination of the previous consensus) that Tales of the Empire was
the second installment of the "Tales" series
. Thus, an appropriate name to address this anthology series considering the formal name would be Star Wars: Tales, which provides a WP:NATURAL name. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 17:25, 2 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 17:46, 9 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 05:42, 21 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 10:39, 28 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Bolognese School → Bolognese school – Schools of art, schools of thought, etc., are usually rendered in sources with lowercase school. We should fix, consistent with WP:NCCAPS and MOS:CAPS. This is a logical extension of the consensus at Talk:Cretan School#Requested move 25 April 2024, but I thought I'd do another discussion just in case. And for the Cuzco school, restore the common spelling. (These are all found at Template:Western art movements, and there may be others there that I've missed.) Dicklyon (talk) 02:38, 26 July 2024 (UTC)
- Lucchese School → Lucchese school
- Delft School (painting) → Delft school (painting)
- Norwich School of painters → Norwich school of painters
- Boston School (painting) → Boston school (painting)
- Volcano School → Volcano school
- Pont-Aven School → Pont-Aven school
- Cusco School → Cuzco school
- Quito School → Quito school
- Sienese School → Sienese school
- Cologne School of Painting → Cologne school of painting
- Hudson River School → Hudson River school
- Cologne School → Cologne school
- Cologne School (music) → Cologne school (music)
- (Discuss) – House demolition → House demolition (military) – The primary topic for demolishing houses would be demolition. The military use of house demolition is not the obvious primary topic and should be disambiguated. I would also not be opposed to (militiary tactic), but it doesn't seem like other articles use it. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 11:16, 13 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 05:28, 21 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Arab citizens of Israel → Palestinian and Arab citizens of Israel – Per the smart suggestion from Keizers in the discussion above, this middle ground should address the concerns of both sides. Many editors have put a lot of time into this debate over many years, so we would ask you not to vote until you have reviewed the following discussions: * Talk:Arab citizens of Israel/Archive 8#Requested move 27 October 2021 * Talk:Palestinian citizens of Israel#Requested move 26 November 2021 * Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Palestinian citizens of Israel (6 March 2024, proposed by Keizers) * Talk:Arab citizens of Israel#Requested move 21 March 2024 Onceinawhile (talk) 14:28, 16 April 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. NightWolf1223 <Howl at me•My hunts> 20:25, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – 2023 Hamas-led attack on Israel → 7 October Hamas-led attack on Israel – I believe that enough time has passed since the last RM (which proposed the simpler "7 October attacks" name and closed with consensus to retain the current title) to re-propose a title change for this article. I believe that "7 October Hamas-led attack on Israel" is the WP:COMMONNAME for this event, as seen in sources such as: * Al Jazeera: "... counter the October 7 Hamas-led attack on Israel, which saw ..." * Bloomberg: "... trapped in Gaza since the Oct. 7 Hamas-led attack on Israel, which prompted ..." * CBC: "... around the world since the Hamas-led attacks on Israel of Oct. 7 but are now ..." * CNN: "... from the October 7 Hamas-led attack on Israel being held ..." * Euracitiv: "... triggered by the 7 October Hamas-led attack on Israel in which ..." * France24: "Before the October 7 Hamas-led attack on Israel that triggered ..." * ISW: "... spokesperson claimed that the October 7 Hamas-led attack on Israel was retaliation ..." * Middle East Eye: "Following the 7 October Hamas-led attack on Israel and subsequent ..." * NPR: "... Palestinian armed groups since the Oct. 7 Hamas-led attack on Israel that set off the war ..." * NYTimes: "... including some who participated in the Oct. 7 Hamas-led attack on Israel, and that ..." * Reuters: "... were involved in the Oct. 7 Hamas-led attack on Israel that precipitated ..." * Times of Israel: "... during and after the October 7 Hamas-led attack on Israel." * The Conversation: "... participated in the October 7 Hamas-led attack on Israel, which resulted ... " * WaPo: "Since the Oct. 7 Hamas-led attack on Israel, restrictions have ..." Many sources simply say "7 October" or "October 7 attacks" instead of spelling out the full name, but I believe that while "7 October attacks" could be a more COMMON name, I think that it fails WP:AT#Precision in favor of "7 October Hamas-led attack on Israel." DecafPotato (talk) 00:43, 15 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. — Amakuru (talk) 14:09, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – List of Mario franchise characters → List of Mario characters – More concise title, WP:CONSISTENT with other video game franchise characters lists: *List of Donkey Kong characters *List of The Legend of Zelda characters *List of Star Fox characters etc. Mia Mahey (talk) 17:20, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Wikipedia:Requested moves/Article alerts, which includes a list of recently closed, as well as open discussions