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Sock

Re your comment here, it's almost certainly trolling by blocked sock Radio Sterling. It would be interesting to locate the sock master. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 17:37, 9 January 2023 (UTC)

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The Quiet Man edit

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	Sorry, I would have messaged you earlier in response to your thanking me for the 'The Quiet Man' edit I made a while ago, but didn't know how to do this before now: You're welcome! :-) Hatwoman (talk) 20:26, 16 January 2023 (UTC)

How is this 'ethno-political whitewashing'?

It was a geniune argument. [1] You could have pointed to a relative talk page discussion regarding the subject and I would have gone. Assuming good faith is Wikipedia policy. Not everyone who is editing a right wing related page is a Hindu nationalist trying to whitewash the page. Akshaypatill (talk) 14:10, 4 February 2023 (UTC)

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Talk:Late 19th–/Archive 1

Hello, Serial Number 54129,

I haven't run into you lately, I hope you are doing well these days.

I came across this page on database report and it looks like you created this archive talk page but there is no talk page Talk:Late 19th– that it could be an archive of. I think this page needs to be moved to the correct article talk page, whatever that might be. It could be that the dash is confusing Wikipedia's data processing and it could require a different type of dash, I'm not really up on all of the MOS rules and regulations.

Thanks for seeing to this, whenever it is convenient. Take care, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 20:49, 6 February 2023 (UTC)

• Hi Liz long time no see! Thanks for this, I hadn't realised what an utter mess I'd made of the thing. Briefly, it was part of a longer page title―I think it's the oblique that confuses the software, because it sees what follows as a subsection? Don't know either! Anyway, I think it's tidied up: have redirected that archive to the proper archive, which means this can be G7 deleted as I created the l.ink myself from the page move. That should cover everything? Apologies for creating more work for others! SN54129 15:07, 7 February 2023 (UTC)

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Not a new user

Special:Contributions/Commandur user and talk pages deleted, rants against lefty Wikipedia. Doug Weller talk 19:59, 11 February 2023 (UTC)

Shit, that's /my/ Wikipedia! Apologies and thanks Doug Weller SN54129 20:16, 11 February 2023 (UTC)

What’s that’s/my /Wikipedia? Doug Weller talk 21:01, 11 February 2023 (UTC)

@Doug Weller: Not sure deleting the user talk was the best idea. Don't think deleting admin realized its full extent. Not that I mourn the loss, you understand. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 21:08, 11 February 2023 (UTC)

LOL. It's quality over quantity😜 -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 21:06, 11 February 2023 (UTC)

What I hate is that when blanked it looks like a new user. I think it should be restored so editors can see the problem. As it is we seem to have done that editor a favour Doug Weller talk 21:36, 11 February 2023 (UTC)

merde -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 21:57, 11 February 2023 (UTC)

I was gonna remove th bad content and not delete, but was overwhelmed. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 21:58, 11 February 2023 (UTC)

• @Deepfriedokra and Doug Weller: Apologies (again) to you both (and also to Star Mississippi who I inadvertently confused - although no more than myself now!). I'm not quite sure what I've done, it seems to have caused the usual amount of trouble  :) basically I thought it was a new user who had made problematic edits, then caught up with the ANI thread, so removed my welcome per DW here - obviously by then I couldn't see the polemics, but the general suggestions of trolling/abuse were sufficient for me to not to want to seem their cheerleader! Thanks for the info everyone, and sorry once again for sowing extra confusion. SN54129 13:22, 12 February 2023 (UTC)

  No problem but should the issue of what happens when a page is deleted be raised at the VPT. Doug Weller talk 13:57, 12 February 2023 (UTC)

  @Serial Number 54129: No need to apologize. You did the right thing based on what you knew. You had no way to know of the ongoing debacle. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 14:57, 12 February 2023 (UTC)

  You caused not trouble. The trouble was caused by the user who added provocative, inflammatory content. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 15:01, 12 February 2023 (UTC)

  If editors stopped doing things that confused me...I love content, but behind the scenes and syntax? Yuck.

  You did nothing wrong, don't apologize. The confusion chain started with the deletion of the Talk, which I thought was slightly odd.

  @Deepfriedokra @Doug Weller and the community had a warning for what they could expect engaging with that editor. Somehow I have a feeling we'll be dealing with them again unfortunately. No one gets that angry and then walks away. Star Mississippi 17:14, 12 February 2023 (UTC)

  We live in hope of constructive edits from all people. Hopefully, they will find a way to be constructive. As to the talk page deletion, an IP came to my talk page asking me to delete Commandur's talk. I deferred to SM and DW as I'd seen their names on the talk page. The IP tagged for U5, which JimFBleak graciously honored. (I did not think we ever deleted a user talk page). I restored the talk, redacted the problem passages, and asked Commandur to consider creating a project space essay if they felt they must restore the content. On the other hand, it's been a long time since they constructively contributed and they returned to Wikipedia with a burr in their saddle.-- Deepfriedokra (talk) 17:39, 12 February 2023 (UTC)

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That thing at WT:FAC

SN, I wonder if you would contemplate removing that comment ? I honestly have no idea what has their knickers in a twist, but continuing it beyond my talk page is unlikely to help calm the situation. Bst, SandyGeorgia (Talk) 16:15, 3 March 2023 (UTC)

Like the Anglicism, Sandy; apologies, I'll do that now. I was thinking more about the dangers of too personal an interpretation of 'discretion', rather than your particular case specifically, but I quite undertsand. Stand by! SN54129 19:13, 3 March 2023 (UTC)

Thanks :) Bst, SandyGeorgia (Talk) 19:19, 3 March 2023 (UTC)

Curses, I added 1 byte! SN54129

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Many thanks to Rodw for fielding this! (And, in fact, another too!) Cheers  :) SN54129 19:25, 9 March 2023 (UTC)

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FA review for Li Rui

Hello! I nominated Li Rui for FA status, but the review is now at risk of being archived because there have not been many comments. Would you be willing to jump in and share your thoughts on the article? You previously were a reviewer for one of my other two FAs (Mary Jane Richardson Jones), which I really appreciated. Thank you! —Ganesha811 (talk) 14:13, 24 March 2023 (UTC)

Hello Ganesha811. I can't promise to get to it today, but I'll leave a note there now and get to ASAP. Hope you're well! SN54129 14:27, 24 March 2023 (UTC)

Thank you very much! —Ganesha811 (talk) 14:31, 24 March 2023 (UTC)

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It was very tempting...

...but my better nature got the best of me. Also, it's good to see an old Bathrobe Cabal member still around and kicking. That's a blast from the past; i'm not sure there's more than 3-4 of the originals left. I don't think anyone in that gif has edited significantly more than a few times in a decade or more... --Jayron32 15:47, 31 March 2023 (UTC)

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Please take back your unfounded accusation

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Edward III, again

Hi. Long time no chat. I moved all the unused refs in Edward III to a "Further reading" section, as per usual. You deleted it? Why would you do that? Tks § Lingzhi (talk|check refs) 23:54, 4 June 2023 (UTC)

It was a blind edit conflict, sorry about that—I'd had that window open most of the day (literally) so when I came to close it, although I looked at the preview, I couldn't, at first sight, see anything wrong? Anyway, glad they#re all sorted now—a fine job, cheers! SN54129 20:51, 5 June 2023 (UTC)

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WikiJournal Preprints/Loveday, 1458

Hello, we have tried to reach you a few times through email with no response. We would like to remind you that two reviewers have provided their comments on your submission on the talk page. If you intend to continue with the submission process, please make changes directly to the preprint or inform me when you will have the revisions completed by. If we do not see any edits or hear back from you within a week (i.e. after October 6), we will assume that the submission has been abandoned and declined for further consideration. Thank you. OhanaUnited^{Talk page} 19:46, 29 September 2022 (UTC)

Since we have not heard from you, we will proceed with a declined submission for this paper. OhanaUnited^{Talk page} 19:14, 19 October 2022 (UTC)

@OhanaUnited: Many apologies for the lack of involvement: my stats will indicate a general disengagement from WP, not just WJns (for personal, rather than on-wiki reasons, I'm glad too say!)

Ever since I got your recent reminder, I've been working on the piece—my only excuse is that most of Hicks' criticisms of the article were thematic rather than just add/remove this that (e.g, per Hicks, I'm adding a new—small—section on the peripatetic nature of the King's household. But I've been working on the thing most of the week, and could have it on your desk tomorrow evening (UTC), If you could hold off 24 hours?

BTW, if you do, could you email me a reminder of how to link an anonymous WP account with the academic database? Much appreciated, if so. All the best! SN54129 20:24, 19 October 2022 (UTC)

Ok, we will hold off for 24 hours. Please edit directly on the WikiJournal preprint article. Ideally, you should also reply on the talk page (underneath each peer reviewer's section) to address and respond to the reviewers' comments. As for academic database, please check The Wikipedia Library and see if you are able to access resources that way. I don't know how stringent their "10+ edits in the last month" rule is being applied to access, but give it a try. OhanaUnited^{Talk page} 20:33, 19 October 2022 (UTC)

We tried to reach you on Wikiversity for a follow-up question. Please reply back asap so we can finalize the process. Thanks. (An email has also been sent to the email address associated with this wiki account.) OhanaUnited^{Talk page} 13:46, 27 October 2022 (UTC)

Did you get a chance to see our message? We would like a "yes" or "no" answer to our question. Thanks. OhanaUnited^{Talk page} 05:53, 4 November 2022 (UTC)

Mild Reprimand

	You've been mildly reprimanded by your passive aggressive aunt
	ArbCom noticeboards are no place for humor, young man! ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 13:53, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

Good one, ScottishFinnishRadish. Kinda glad there are no fair use pics of Tattaglia though  ;) SN54129 14:13, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

"Over all civilisations hovers the shadow of admonishment"¹

(admonished and restricted by arbcom, and never understood why) thank you for taking up the GA review of Prayer for Ukraine, the work of many. The German translation will go to the German Main page tomorrow (with the image taken by me in better times), so if you find things that need change fast a large audience will profit. DYK that we began expanding it, without knowing of the exposure on U.S. television? I have no access to the NYT report about that, - do you? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:47, 4 March 2022 (UTC)

Have you got a link to that report, Gerda? I'll have a look, if so. SN54129 10:28, 4 March 2022 (UTC)

Yes, it's in the article, found on de, of all places. There are 2 refs for the same fact that all can see, just that NYT has a higher reputation. A friend uploaded the video for me which is not available in Germany (Europe?), so I can confirm that what the 2 refs describe is fact, especially the detail that until after the last announcement, you do not see that the candles spell Kyiv. - Suppressed by whom one wonders. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:38, 4 March 2022 (UTC)

ps: ... and I now I can see the article, which has a less good description, but refers to the two other occasions when the show began without a sketch: 9-11 and the Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:44, 4 March 2022 (UTC)

Do you have any idea why the bot didn't add it to the list of GAs? - It's on the German MP today (pictured, by me) and tomorrow. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:34, 5 March 2022 (UTC)

¹ ^{With acknowledgements, possibly Unamuno, and almost certainly wrongly remembered.} Right, on it now. SN54129 14:42, 4 March 2022 (UTC)

March songs

Not sure on what. Prayer for Ukraine is still not among the Music GA (where I'd expect it). - Listening to the charity concert mentioned here. I created the articles of the composer and the soprano. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:11, 10 March 2022 (UTC)

Now, you can also listen on YouTube, and more music, the piece by Anna Korsun begins after about one hour, and the voices call "Freiheit!" (freedom, instead of "Freude", joy). Music every day, pictured in songs. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:30, 14 March 2022 (UTC)

Yes Gerda, sorry I didn't reply then. I put it under WP:GA > Music > Songs > Pre-1900 songs, which seemed about right... did you have somewhere else in mind? Feel free to move it, if it should be e.g. under Classical compositions. Nice music, very emotive at this time. SN54129 17:47, 14 March 2022 (UTC)

Thank you. It's not the typical song, which made me look in the wrong direction, sorry. Next wish: some notice on my talk, - I'm not eager for bot messages but this one is special. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:36, 14 March 2022 (UTC)

The Prayer is on the Main page, finally + new flowers --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:41, 23 March 2022 (UTC)

Bach's No. 1 today --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:11, 25 March 2022 (UTC)

Sunday flowers and sounds, don't miss the extraordinary marriage of the beginnings of the theme of Wie schön leuchtet der Morgenstern, BWV 1, and Prayer for Ukraine - here! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:13, 27 March 2022 (UTC)

Queen angelfish

Hello. I made all the changes. Could you make your final decision? LittleJerry (talk) 15:58, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

June thanks

Thank you for missing and reformation, with some impressions of places, flowers and music for you. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:52, 20 June 2021 (UTC)

Thanks Gerda! and that's a cool link...old page! ——Serial 18:27, 23 June 2021 (UTC)

Bah!

Thort I waz, forsooth :-)

(Trusting this will be accepted in the spirit it was intended – goats are, as the kids* say, awesome.)

*Not the goat kids. They say "bah".

bonadea contributions talk 17:01, 28 June 2021 (UTC)

Thank you

Many thanks for seconding the nomination as editor of the week. It was a very pleasant surprise when I got on my computer after getting up here in Melbourne. --Bduke (talk) 00:16, 29 August 2021 (UTC)

Hey

I was just thinking last week that I hadn't seen you around in ages. It's good to see you back! Cabayi (talk) 10:32, 4 November 2021 (UTC)

Thanks, Cabayi! Don't think anyone noticed though :) hope this finds you well! ——Serial 11:08, 8 November 2021 (UTC)

November thanks

November songs

... for Bach background an a good analysis on AN. Today 3 DYK, Brahms depicted + sadly Aga Mikolaj (listen!). May the roads that we travel make us meet again! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:36, 14 November 2021 (UTC)

Today we received the annual arbcom message, which made me think. SlimVirgin pictured again, and musing about her wisdom. Will use the Bach more, after updating Volker Lechtenbrink. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:32, 23 November 2021 (UTC)

The memory of SlimVirgin is pictured again, in the context about my dangerous thoughts about arbcom. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:13, 29 November 2021 (UTC)

Good to see you around again

I considered commenting on the FAC, but I'm still a bit terrified of the place. Hope you're well. Vaticidalprophet 02:53, 19 December 2021 (UTC)

@Vaticidalprophet: And I thank you. As someone recently pointed out, my activity over the last year does rather look as though my parole keeps getting pulled. But thanks for waving that bone in my face and then taking it away again :p I'm surprised you'd be worried about reviewing at FAC; reviewers, I find, tend to find themselves the ones in the positions of power, usually, unless they make completely unreasonable demands (which in itself can be left to the co-ords to give due weight to...and ignore). FWIW, I'm surprised not to have seen any of your stuff listed there yet (yes, Prehistoric religion, I'm looking at you)—many of your articles are only a spit and polish away from potential FA status, and they're particularly original and eclectic topics. Think on it, perhaps.

Thanks for the hello, in any case  :) ——Serial 15:15, 19 December 2021 (UTC)

I did have an article listed there at one point; "it went well for the first two months and then didn't", might be the best way to put it. I suspect I'll come back with a smaller topic next time (medical articles have their own lore). I hope your parole doesn't get pulled again :) Vaticidalprophet 21:42, 19 December 2021 (UTC)

Your e-mail

I've blocked Check-wikifi-here. I would have done it earlier, but I had to get some technical information on how the Thanks button works once a user is blocked. I must say your report is one of the more unusual ones I've received. BTW, I have Thanks turned off in my Preferences. Personally, I think the idea is a bit silly.--Bbb23 (talk) 01:03, 21 December 2021 (UTC)

Good result Bbb23, thanks. Yeah, the height of childishness...although one to which I've climbed occasionally if someone says something particularly sardonic and/or crushing. ——Serial 15:53, 21 December 2021 (UTC)

Apology

I would like to apologise for my behaviour earlier. I make no excuses for it. My reversion of your removal of the user talk CSD as vandalism was definitely against WP:AGF and WP:CIVIL. I also apologise for my rather rude and terse comments here following your warning, which was definitely justified. Mako001 (talk) 04:24, 22 December 2021 (UTC)

SPI

Don't often see you down at SPI. Your spidey senses were right - there were more. Girth Summit _(blether) 19:21, 20 January 2022 (UTC)

Thanks GS; 'tis a souless pit of the damned... must be why I keep going back  :) hope you're well! SN54129 17:57, 23 January 2022 (UTC)

Probably what keeps me there too. Girth Summit _(blether) 18:22, 23 January 2022 (UTC)

ITN recognition for Gavin MacLeod

On 4 June 2021, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article Gavin MacLeod, which you updated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page.  — Amakuru (talk) 11:10, 4 June 2021 (UTC)

Why do you have to be so infuriatingly diplomatic, Amakuru?! (should that've said "f*****g diplomatic"...?) ——Serial 11:32, 4 June 2021 (UTC)

As the page to which you've linked rightly says, a crack at the right moment can often break the tension. 😀  — Amakuru (talk) 12:04, 4 June 2021 (UTC)

Bad faith???

You deleted my talk page comment with the edit summary:

""Housekeeping" is unnecessary: it's all in the page history and the archival history; a third is wholly extraneous, except as an excercise in bad faith on A. B.'s behalf."[3]

I think you misinterpreted my motivation. There is so much controversy art Talk:Boulton and Park that I was concerned that another participant might think it was up to something nefarious. Fiddling with archives is normally a very bad thing. I also wasn't sure my edit summaries were very clear.

I think that rather than deleting my edit as bad faith which it is not, you might consider restoring it, adding your opinion of my actions (if you feel it's still needed) and then archiving it. --A. B. ^{(talk • contribs • global count)} 14:24, 12 June 2023 (UTC)

H'mmm, OK A. B. if that wasn't your intent—and I'm sure, it was not—then I apologise, I clearly did misunderstand. It seemed to me an excellent way of keeping the same old argument going while having a dig at me at the same time! All the best, SN54129 14:39, 12 June 2023 (UTC)

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Bully

Informal threats sent to me saying “your gettin blocked” without rationale evidence or reasoning. Please explain! Phil.Mcrackin123 (talk) 13:34, 26 March 2022 (UTC)

Just so. Luckily for you, no administrators watch this page, otherwise, they would realise your account has been blocked by Cullen328. As I suggested, you may wish to read WP:EVADE and WP:SOCK as to what happens next. SN54129 13:42, 26 March 2022 (UTC)

This account has just been created ? I’ve not been blocked, you just came out the blue and said “you gettin blocked” ! When in doubt don’t block ! Phil.Mcrackin123 (talk) 13:50, 26 March 2022 (UTC)

Is true. Accounts belong to people, one at a time. Note I used the future participle. Infinitive, To Block. You have been blocked. You are blocked. You will be blocked. SN54129 13:58, 26 March 2022 (UTC)

Except I have not been blocked, I am not blocked and with reason, because there is no reason as to why I should be blocked hence why I am not blocked 😂 Phil.Mcrackin123 (talk) 14:00, 26 March 2022 (UTC)

Precious anniversary

Precious

Five years!

- look and listen today --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:50, 29 March 2022 (UTC)

Pain

@Ceoil: Yes, I like dinosaurs too :) but on our right, we see the results, ~20 years ago, of the increasing availability of CD blanks and cheap(ish) burning equipment and a folder full of bootlegs and bizarrities off soulseek. They say damp records the past...if that's so I've got the biggest library yet (actually did at the time; damp, that, is...)

I know I'm giving you shit on the FAC nom page, but here is an angry tune to take away the pain[4] n (as you are a Fall fan, there are a lot of similarities especially with he bass lines). Ceoil (talk) 04:52, 2 April 2022 (UTC)

​ Bring on that shit!  :) Man I listened to that before even properly waking up. It certainly cleared the head! SN54129 12:11, 2 April 2022 (UTC)

Its pretty heavy, which is what I like. Now you owe me one link. Ceoil (talk) 01:35, 4 April 2022 (UTC)

There is also this [5] Ceoil (talk) 05:00, 9 April 2022 (UTC)

Speaking of the Fall (and well done at spotting ref)...buried here is talk of a collab. If interested, what period? For me it would be early....Slags, Slates and Tapes, or This Nation's Saving Grace. I only really go as far as Curious Orange, which is Steve Hanley's high point. Ps I have a fuck ton of books. Ceoil (talk) 22:30, 22 April 2022 (UTC)

Pps, your more recent FA recalls[6] Yeah I like queen, shoot me. Ceoil (talk) 18:35, 23 April 2022 (UTC)

Hogmanay

Hey - just wanted to wish you a happy new year, when it comes along. Hope 2023 isn't rubbish for you. Cheers Girth Summit _(blether) 20:09, 30 December 2022 (UTC)

Richard Roose scheduled for TFA

This is to let you know that the above article has been scheduled as today's featured article for 26 May 2023. Please check that the article needs no amendments. Feel free to amend the draft blurb, which can be found at Wikipedia:Today's featured article/May 26, 2023, or to make comments on other matters concerning the scheduling of this article at Wikipedia talk:Today's featured article/May 2023. I suggest that you watchlist Wikipedia:Main Page/Errors from the day before this appears on Main Page. Thanks and congratulations on your work. Gog the Mild (talk) 18:53, 7 April 2023 (UTC)

Thanking you Gog. A shame, in a way because the anniversary of his grisly end is in eight days time. Seems a shame to miss it. SN54129 18:57, 7 April 2023 (UTC)

I had missed that. Given the late notice and that the currently scheduled article is also an anniversary I don't think that it will get in for this April. But I have made a discrete enquiry, just in case. Assuming that doesn't happen, I could pull it from this May and you could "book" 15 April 2024 at Wikipedia:Today's featured article/requests/pending? Gog the Mild (talk) 19:20, 7 April 2023 (UTC)

Not your fault Gog, I missed it too until now, and I'm sure Louis H. Bean is equally worthy; its creator is FAR more worthy than me for a 1/365 slot. Thanks anyway! 🙂 SN54129 19:40, 7 April 2023 (UTC)

Regrettably I got a polite "Thanks, but no thanks." I'll leave it down for the 26th, but if you decide over the next couple of weeks you'd rather go for 15 April 2024, let me know. Gog the Mild (talk) 14:26, 8 April 2023 (UTC)

Cheers Gog the Mild, if you could cancel it this year, I'll book it in for next. Also, while you're here, I've got two more lined up for 12 and 27 April, John Minsterworth and the earl of Pembroke. Seems odd to have two so closely connected characters in such a short space of time. I think Pembroke is a death anniversary, but could we save Minsterworth for another time too? Cheers! SN54129 16:42, 8 April 2023 (UTC)

Roose pulled from May.

Re Minsterworth, I didn't schedule April, but let us ask. Jim? Gog the Mild (talk) 18:02, 8 April 2023 (UTC)

Minsterworth will be pulled too @Gog the Mild: Jimfbleak - talk to me? 07:33, 9 April 2023 (UTC)

Thanks Jim. Gog the Mild (talk) 09:39, 9 April 2023 (UTC)

Archive?

Hi mate, just a note that this talk page is getting fairly massive for an old and doddering computer like mine. Would you consider archiving some of it? ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 15:49, 9 May 2023 (UTC)

ANI notice

There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. —Michael Z. 17:45, 14 May 2023 (UTC)

I don't think there's a case to answer here, but can I just give a gentle reminder that if you're going to accuse somebody of impropriety, it's best to come armed with a bunch of diffs, so the rest of us can evaluate things on their merits. Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 15:49, 15 May 2023 (UTC)

Cheers, Ritchie333, it seems to have been something of a storm in a teacup. I guess it was serendipitous that I missed it, though; I can't imagine me saying anything in particular that would have made things much better. And, looking at the discussion now for the first time, I see Mzajac kept it going for as long as they could, so I suppose it's fair to assume they got everything they wanted out of it too. Honorable mentions in despatches, of course, to EEng, EvergreenFir, Barkeep49, Courcelles, Lepricavark, Lourdes, Cinderella157 and Ostalgia: all of whose comments I have considered and hopefully drawn the positives from. In some cases, these editors supported me; in some ways, they criticised me; in all ways, they taught me. Thank you. SN54129 09:52, 3 July 2023 (UTC)

Well, my contribution (Oh for fuck sake, you're taking this to ANI? Move on. was clearly the most erudite one. EEng 18:40, 3 July 2023 (UTC)

Absolutely EEng, and to paraphrase the guy, "he might not be Sicilian, but I think he's gonna be consiglieri one of these days". Yours is all the advice anyone needs for ANI... It's also, of course, all the advice that's never taken before going to ANI, hein...? SN54129 18:46, 3 July 2023 (UTC)

I can imagine you apologizing for the unprovoked attacks instead of gloat-pinging me. But I guess that’s not what they taught you.  —Michael Z. 13:19, 3 July 2023 (UTC)

Hi Mzajac hope you're well! As I said, I completely missed this discussion and the notification to it; can you fill me in? Cheers! SN54129 13:44, 3 July 2023 (UTC)

Thanks

Hello, SN54129. While the essay-sized paragraphs on my FAC's talk page are giving me panic attacks and triggering me due to my obsessive need to keep the page clean, I wanted to thank you for becoming positively involved and trying to ease tensions. It is appreciated. I remember the first time you reviewed my work (which ran into similar problems due to my excitement to get a source review passed) and it increased my confidence, which led to a lot of great work afterwards. That was a lighthearted exchange, which I prefer to the serious and robotic turn the FAC process has taken. I appreciate your presence over the years. I have dropped the discussion you've just revived and will be sticking to that but thanks for trying to help.--NØ 17:00, 31 May 2023 (UTC)

@MaranoFan: I'm glad to see your FAC seems to be back on the rails—nice open! If I helped at all, I was pleased to. Thanks for the note! SN54129 20:46, 5 June 2023 (UTC)

Edward III

Just to let you know why I restored the old section: the "new" version had some strange markup errors. For example, from that revision:

"Much has been made of Edward's sexual licentiousness, but there is no evidence of any infidelity on his part before Alice Perrers became his lover, and by that time the queen was already terminally ill.; Prestwich (1980), p. 241.</ref> This devotion extended to the rest of the family as well; in contrast to so many of his predecessors, Edward never experienced opposition from any of his five adult sons.

. He was bluff, brave, generous, slightly boorish, heartily heterosexual, fair-minded and, on the whole, even-tempered. Above all, he fitted the contemporary image of kingship."

Didn't know what had gone wrong there, especially with that last line. However, looks to be fixed now, so no worries. Regards, Tim O'Doherty (talk) 14:07, 4 June 2023 (UTC)

Apologies if I came across as too brusque, Tim O'Doherty—it's not easy to express oneself through edit summaries nuancedly, and I should have remembered that. Glad you're OK with it now though! SN54129 20:49, 5 June 2023 (UTC)

Not at all. The edit, on the whole, was a very good one. I've decided to stall my ref-checking for now; when you've finished, I'll take a look (although I'm sure you're using good sources anyway). Regards, Tim O'Doherty (talk) 20:51, 5 June 2023 (UTC)

Sourcing

Hi, dear SN. I recently had a GA promoted and I was thinking of taking it to FA, but I am unsure if the sourcing meets the FA standards of RS and HQ. May I ask your opinion on the following? As an renowned source reviewer, I trust your judgement far more than I trust mine

• Kelly, J. N. D.; Walsh, M. J. (1988) [1986]. Oxford Dictionary of Popes. Oxford University Press. ISBN 9780192820853.
• Levillain, Philippe, ed. (2002). The Papacy: an Encyclopedia. Vol. 3. New York City: Routledge. ISBN 0415922283.
• McBrien, Richard P. (2000). Lives of the Popes. New York, NY: HarperCollins. ISBN 9780060653040.
• Reardon, Wendy J. (2004). The Deaths of the Popes. Jefferson, North Carolina: McFarland & Co. ISBN 0786415274.
• Richards, Jeffrey (1979). The Popes and the Papacy in the Early Middle Ages, 476-752. London: Routledge & Kegan Paul. ISBN 0710000987.

Thank you kindly. Cheers, Unlimitedlead (talk) 01:06, 8 June 2023 (UTC)

@Unlimitedlead: Apologies for not replying sooner! Yes, those sources all look good to me, although I've never heard of Wendy Reardon. What are her qualifications? She might garner some pushback, although her publisher is highly reputable. It might depend on what period of the Papacy you're working on. For a general collection of good and specific sources re. the medieval papacy, have a look at the bibliog of Adrian IV, 1154–1159. Cheers. SN54129 10:07, 3 July 2023 (UTC)

Hello

you deleted the main content from the Sindhi Child Given Names. I want to what made you remove the main thing from the article? If the main content of an article is removed then what lefts behind? If you have any reason kindly mention and try to improve the article, otherwise it's better to delete the article. Thanks AngelicDevil29 (talk) 16:57, 19 June 2023 (UTC)

Yo, AngelicDevil29, I replied at Drmies talk. Cheers, SN54129 17:04, 19 June 2023 (UTC)

H'mm now moot, as blocked by Yamaguchi先生 for continuing to add the same crap even two weeks later. SN54129 10:52, 6 July 2023 (UTC)

Just wanted to point this out

I saw that you had pointed out my removal of content from my talk page on the ANI thread. I find this to be a very fair thing to point out, and I just wanted to take a moment to say that it was not meant to disregard the notices you had given me -- I merely removed it due to the fact that I did not feel the need to keep it on my talk page, given that I have edited pages about American politics in the past. I just wanted to let you know that the removal was not intended to write off Wikipedia policy. I do thank you for bringing it up, since it gave me an opportunity to clear up any doubt. JeffSpaceman (talk) 22:03, 4 July 2023 (UTC)

Hi JeffSpaceman thanks for this and, yeah sorry about that. I didn't assume much good faith there. I think I need a break; I'm seeing bad hand actors all over the place when of course there aren't any. Sorry pal! And thanks for the nice message. SN54129 10:07, 5 July 2023 (UTC)

It's all good. I get that my edit summary seemed dismissive, but given that I've edited those types of pages plenty of times before, I didn't see any harm in removing the notices. I appreciate your receptiveness here. JeffSpaceman (talk) 12:53, 5 July 2023 (UTC)

john mowbray, 3rd duke of norfolk

Serial Number 54129, i had a quick question regarding this article and the associated blurb. should "warden of the east march" be "warden of the eastern march"? the linked article does not appear to use the phrase "east march" (or "west march", for that matter). the featured article's lead and infobox do, but when i was looking for a cited source, i noticed that the article body uses "Eastern March" instead. dying (talk) 22:02, 5 July 2023 (UTC)

Hey Dying—I hope you're not—thanks for calling this! I think you're right, but the blurb is fully protected now so I've left a note at WP:ERRORS based on your note here. Cheers! SN54129 08:44, 6 July 2023 (UTC)

no problem, i'm glad i could help. thanks for addressing this issue! dying (talk) 10:14, 6 July 2023 (UTC)

Here to help!  :) SN54129 10:48, 6 July 2023 (UTC)

WikiCup 2023 July newsletter

The third round of the 2023 WikiCup has come to an end. The 16 users who made it to the fourth round had at least 175 points. Our top scorers in round 3 were:

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@Cwmhiraeth: dunno if it particularly matters now, but from a high-scoring featured articles could do with a grammar tweak. Best, SN54129 10:41, 13 July 2023 (UTC)

Huh?

I didn't really get this reference. What did I miss? Peter ^Isotalo 23:16, 8 July 2023 (UTC)

Hi Peter Isotalo, it was a play on words—motivate—check out this guy, Mr Motivator, totally 90s guy, who IIRC used 'I Like to Move It' as a theme. Glory days! SN54129 11:14, 9 July 2023 (UTC)

D'oh. Sure was embarrassingly obvious when you explained it... Thanks for the injecting a bit of mirth. :) Peter ^Isotalo 11:35, 9 July 2023 (UTC)

It was a bit of silliness, that's me giving away my mental age I guess! Cheers Peter  :) SN54129 11:42, 9 July 2023 (UTC)

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Edith of Wilton

The Gogfather makes an offer you can't refuse...

Hi SN. Dudley did a source review for Edith of Wilton and ended with a request for some source to text spot checks: "I think that this one needs a detailed source check as I have come across several cases where the text is not supported by the cited pages". On a couple of fronts that seems up your street - to mangle my metaphors. Do you fancy taking it on? Gog the Mild (talk) 21:43, 15 July 2023 (UTC)

Gog the Mild, I'd love to help, but I was recently accused of distorting sources and lackadaisicalitly with source integrity, so by the sounds of it, I am very much the opposite of what you're after. Also, didn't you see that I was going to do it back on the 28 June, but, having read the nomination, gulped at the thought of doing a source check for what comes across as one of the most stonewalling discussions I've ever read, decided life was too short, and decided against it less than 24-hours later? I mean, I don't see the point in reviewing when all it does is get argued about like a war of bloody attrition... It's a featured article candidate, not Sanctuary Wood. It's well out of my wheelhouse, too, topic- and period-wise. Hasn't Dudley Miles got all the sources already?! [pokes Dudley]  :) SN54129 14:18, 16 July 2023 (UTC)

Worry not. We all review whatever we feel like reviewing. We supposedly do this for "fun"; for a given value of fun. In terms of any future accusations or "stonewalling", I would suggest just writing up your comments - yours are usually very clear - and leaving things at that: the coordinators will know their own. Gog the Mild (talk) 14:35, 16 July 2023 (UTC)

;) SN54129 14:42, 16 July 2023 (UTC)

I have found the review a slog as the nominator has a different viewpoint from me, regarding reports of miracles as facts, and often does not get the point of my comments, but I have felt bound to keep going as I am so far as I know the only Wikipedian who has a detailed knowledge of the subject, and the nominator has so far always accepted my suggestions in the end. I would much rather not do the source review as I do not want to be the only person criticising, and I do think the article needs a third party to give their view. Maybe Gog can find someone else. Dudley Miles (talk) 15:07, 16 July 2023 (UTC)

Delighted to see SN has now agreed. Dudley Miles (talk) 15:08, 16 July 2023 (UTC)

Agreed = beaten into submission, Dudley  :) SN54129 15:21, 16 July 2023 (UTC)

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It's at {{@ArbCom}}. But please don't use it on a page like WP:ARC. Best, KevinL (aka L235 · t · c) 12:41, 17 July 2023 (UTC)

Thanks L235, shows our search machine is as good as ever. When would it be used, then? Although I agree, thinking about it, that's the single most guaranteed-to-be-watched-by-arbcommers on the entire project, so it would be mildly unnecessary to say the least... SN54129 12:46, 17 July 2023 (UTC)

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Dudley, I'm afraid I don't seem to have got it. SN54129 15:20, 17 July 2023 (UTC)

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We already know Bbb23 sucks. Still, I suppose it bears repeating every once in a while lest we forget.--Bbb23 (talk) 15:28, 21 July 2023 (UTC)

There are so few such certainties in life Bbb23  ;) thanks for the mopping! SN54129 15:32, 21 July 2023 (UTC)

July music

July songs

my story today

These are my flowers of resilience ;) - I have an open question further up (Precious anniversary), but will start over, concerning the discussion about an infobox for Richard Wagner.

• Technically, you used a bracket before "eric" that suggests html but isn't, and it makes the rest of the discussion look uniformly pink to me in edit mode, which I can't fix without changing your edit.
• You say that a consensus was established there (if I understand it correctly). I suggested an infobox to remain on the talk page 10 years ago, and instead of just letting that happen, there was opposition to put it mildly. The possibility of an actual infobox was never discussed for that article, afaik. It is proposed now, and some new users seem not to see how it can even be in question, - that's what I see. Same for Mozart. How many more rounds of this perennial waste of time do we need? I asked that for Sibelius, remember? ("another RfC would be another time sink, and how many more RfCs do we need to call the infobox wars over?" 13 December 2021)

Back to my question: I see that in 2023 only few users are offended by an infobox, and they could use the script by Maddy from Celeste, first offered for Robert le diable, which turns an infobox into just image and caption. What do you see? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:30, 24 July 2023 (UTC)

• Thanks Gerda, I didn't realise that bracket would mess things up. I've got rid of it, so hopefully that sorts your screen out. For the record, I wouldn't have minded you changing it myself! SN54129 17:29, 24 July 2023 (UTC)

  Thank you. Did you look at Sibelius? - While today's DYK highlights Santiago on his day, I did my modest share with my story today, describing what I just experienced, pictured. I began the article of the woman in green. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:19, 25 July 2023 (UTC)

  Listening to Siegfried from the 2023 Bayreuth Festival, third act, Andreas Schager as Siegfried waking up Brünnhilde. Which reminds me of this discussion. Was there anything in it demanding arbitration? - A few weeks later, three participants were admonished, and I also restricted, - for what still remains a mystery to me? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:08, 29 July 2023 (UTC)

  Today Jahrhundertring, and I just listened to Götterdämmerung from Bayreuth (pictured), - the image (of a woman who can't believe what she has to see) features also on the article talk. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:01, 31 July 2023 (UTC)

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