Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Video games

Summary of Video games WikiProject open tasks

AfDs

• Nostalgames (1 participant)
• List of Zenless Zone Zero characters (1 participant)
• Catan (2008 video game) (3 participants)
• .io games (5 participants)
• Inter-Services Public Relations media productions (4 participants)
• MWT: Tank Battles (4 participants)
• Nintendo Network Service Database (2 participants)
• Clue (information) (5 participants)
• Jon Radoff (4 participants; relisted)
• Portugal 1111: A Conquista de Soure (6 participants; relisted)
• Harry M. Rubin (8 participants; relisted)

Merge discussions

• Home video game console generations (discussion)
• HoYoverse (discussion)
• Minecraft – Volume Beta (discussion)
• Forge (level editor) (discussion)

Other discussions

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Featured content candidates

• Letterpress (video game) (nom)
• Ada Wong (nom)
• Raichu (nom)

Good article nominations

• Donkey Kong (start)
• Puff-puff (Dragon Quest) (start)
• Sorceress (Dragon's Crown) (start)
• Hyper Duel (start)
• Gengar (start)
• Leifang (start)
• Megamania (start)
• Barry Burton (start)
• Tina Armstrong (start)
• Geno (Super Mario RPG) (nom)
• Birdo (nom)
• Rayman (video game) (nom)
• Shin Megami Tensei V (start)
• Iron Soldier (start)
• Alex Thach (start)
• Protector (Atari Jaguar video game) (nom)
• Aperture Tag (start)
• Justin Yu (start)
• Theatrhythm Final Fantasy: Curtain Call (start)
• Thinking with Time Machine (start)
• Kim Kitsuragi (start)
• Miner 2049er (start)

DYK nominations

No did you know nominations

Reviews and reassessments

• The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask (nom)
• Pokémon Channel (nom)
• Undertale (rev)
• The Sims 4 (rev)
• Dr Disrespect (rev)

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• cleanup (8)
• infoboxes (33)
• cover art (245)
• screenshots (8,812)
• photos (65)
• translation from japan (192)
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New Articles (July 22 to July 28)

Main page: Wikipedia:WikiProject Video games/New article announcements

 A listing of all articles newly added to the Video Games Wikiproject (regardless of creation date). Generated by v3.20 of the RecentVGArticles script and posted by PresN. Bug reports and feature requests are appreciated. --PresN 15:03, 29 July 2024 (UTC)

• Articles deleted/removed: George Harrison (executive), Tsutomu Kōno, Atelier Double, Karen (Pokémon), Super Nintend, Darkworks, Boss Brain
• Drafts deleted/removed: Draft:Mob Entertainment, Draft:Shiny Pokémon, Draft:Cpt. Olivia Rhodes, Draft:Gameroost, Draft:Project: Delivery, Draft:Christopher Slayton, Draft:FNCS, Draft:John Cook, Draft:Truth or Lies, Draft:Learning Land, Draft:Love Each Other: Pixel RPG, Draft:Neowiz, Draft:Throttle (band), Draft:William G. Grace (Guill Grace)
• Articles redirected: 3-D Bomberman, Gnasher Shotgun, Himitsu No Aipri
• Articles moved to draft space: PlayStation 6
• Categories deleted/removed: DVD interactive technology, Worms (series), Works about arcade video games, Stealth video games by series
• New categories: Intergalactic Development games — Waxworker, Light & Shadow Production games — Waxworker, American Action games — Waxworker, Falling-sand games — QuantumFoam66, Ditherpunk video games — NoonIcarus, Independent Arts Software games — Waxworker, Random House video games — Waxworker, Rhythmic action games — ThanatosApprentice (newly tagged - originally created 3 months ago), Video games set in 1957 — Sorcier du Lac (newly tagged - originally created 3 months ago), Realtime Games Software games — Waxworker, Video games set in Istanbul — QuantumFoam66, Black Tabby Games games — Waxworker, Video games about military units and formations — QuantumFoam66, Zenda Studio games — Waxworker, Doki Doki Literature Club! characters — Pokelego999 (newly tagged - originally created 1 month ago)
• New templates: {{Flux Family Secrets}} — Rich Farmbrough (newly tagged - originally created 3 years ago)

July 22

• Clickolding (edit talk links history) — ThanatosApprentice (previously a draft: accepted AfC submission)
• Claude von Riegan (edit talk links history) — Cukie Gherkin (was previously a redirect)
• Chiyomaru Shikura (edit talk links history) — Mousou No Sonzai

July 23

• The Big Three (video game) (edit talk links history) — BOZ (previously a draft: undrafted by original creator)
• Bloodborne PSX (edit talk links history) — EnzoTC (newly tagged – originally created 19 days ago)
• List of Zenless Zone Zero characters (edit talk links history) — VulcanSphere

July 24

• Oatchi (edit talk links history) — Captain Galaxy (was previously a redirect)
• Paperinik (edit talk links history) — JIP (was previously a redirect – un-redirected 2 months ago)

July 25

• Microsoft and unions (edit talk links history) — Shushugah (newly tagged – originally created 2 years ago)

July 26

• Catan (2009 video game) (edit talk links history) — Angeldeb82
• Elesky (edit talk links history) — Tajotep
• Gears of War: E-Day (edit talk links history) — OceanHok (was previously a redirect)
• Save Me Mr Tako (edit talk links history) — Botto
• Shapez 2 (edit talk links history) — CanonNi

July 27

• Computer game bot Turing test (edit talk links history) — Aboeing (newly tagged – originally created 15 years ago)
• Deae Tonosama: Appare Ichiban (edit talk links history) — Beqwk
• Hana Tāka Daka!? (edit talk links history) — Beqwk
• Mystic Formula (edit talk links history) — Beqwk
• Rabio Lepus (edit talk links history) — Beqwk

July 28

• Baby Park (edit talk links history) — Captain Galaxy (was previously a redirect)
• Anbernic RG35XXSP (edit talk links history) — Zxcvbnm
• Spriggan Powered (edit talk links history) — Beqwk
• Syd Mead's TerraForming (edit talk links history) — Beqwk
• Takane Ōkubo (edit talk links history) — Beqwk

• Given how short the main Zzz article is, seems absolutely unnecessary for the separate characters article at this time or the need for thar much table stuff in it. Masem (t) 15:18, 29 July 2024 (UTC)

  Agreed. Extremely wikis/crufty content anyways. Sergecross73 msg me 15:31, 29 July 2024 (UTC)

  I also agree. There needs to be more real-world perspective content (development insight, media reception, etc.) in that article, which I haven't seen any. I already listed several ref ideas about it, so it's definitely doable and has some notability, but without anyone writing them into the article, it is just fancraft at best. SuperGrey (talk) 01:15, 6 August 2024 (UTC)

• That Microsoft and unions articles feels like something that could be expanded into " Unionuzation in the video game industry" and combine from a few other places. Masem (t) 15:18, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
• Is the Baby Park spinout really necessary? It's literally just an oval race track... Sergecross73 msg me 15:30, 29 July 2024 (UTC)

  Well it's ultimately about what people have to say about the oval race track, after all. - Cukie Gherkin (talk) 15:56, 29 July 2024 (UTC)

  I am certain that one can pick nearly any feature from a video game (level, weapon, character) and if they are very much inclined, "invent" sufficient reception to claim it is notable and thus can have a standalone article. But is this separate article really necessary? Most of the time, no.

  I would really strongly want to see such spinous to be based on both the presence of reception and development insights, the latter key to give reason to discuss the facet outside of the game's context. Masem (t) 16:04, 29 July 2024 (UTC)

  I don't rightly know what the 'invention' of sufficient reception is meant to refer to? The article merely cites sources that discuss Baby Park in significant detail. Development info would be nice, but even with some popular video games, it's sorely lacking. Dev info is something I think can really help with notability, but a lack of it shouldn't necessarily hurt it either. - Cukie Gherkin (talk) 16:24, 29 July 2024 (UTC)

  We've had problems with articles like this created from a reception built on listacles and similar poor sourcing. This has a few of those but there are a couple here talking in depth on the the track... But thar said, those articles themselves are really thin. So yes it arguably passes the GNG but the GNG is not a demand to create a new article on the topic. (at least the appearances section is kept modest in contrast to Rainbow Road). Something like this asks me if there is a better larger context for the information, which may be in the main Kart article, or if there are other tracks that have sourcable details, a list of notable tracks would be reasonable. Masem (t) 18:19, 29 July 2024 (UTC)

  Right, but there's not much at the article. Half of it is just basic description of a circular race track. The reception section is full of mundane observations like "website thought it was fun" and "website liked that it was announced for (game)". It's paper this stuff. Sergecross73 msg me 18:10, 29 July 2024 (UTC)

  IMO Baby Park ever so slightly scooches over the notability line. This, this and this (even if it's just the first few paragraphs) would make me !vote Weak Keep in an AfD. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 18:35, 29 July 2024 (UTC)

  That looks like routine, paper thin coverage by a number of some of the weakest sources we allow for use... Sergecross73 msg me 18:41, 29 July 2024 (UTC)

  I'm not sure what's wrong with Vice or Nintendo Life? Also, I wouldn't call them routine either, they don't seem to be written as part of routine Mario Kart coverage. - Cukie Gherkin (talk) 21:01, 29 July 2024 (UTC)

• I nominated Category:DVD interactive technology for deletion review: Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2024 July 29#Category:DVD interactive technology. --Mika1h (talk) 15:32, 29 July 2024 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:Uma Musume Pretty Derby#Requested move 21 July 2024

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Uma Musume Pretty Derby#Requested move 21 July 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 15:31, 30 July 2024 (UTC)

Unused contents

There's a minor discussion over whether unused assets in Super Paper Mario are WP:Cruft. The current form is at Special:Diff/1237692497, which briefly introduces developments assets in specific regional version. I found this notable because A) it's reported at Nintendo Life, a reliable source in WP:VG/S and B) the fact that this version was released more than more than two years after the original Japanese version and has unique assets is not a universe lore but an insight into release history. I want to hear opinions about what to do. Emiya Mulzomdao (talk) 08:00, 31 July 2024 (UTC)

I'm not sure I'd go so far as calling it cruft, given it's actually sourced, but it also seems totally off-topic and irrelevant for the article. The fact that the cat sprites exist may have absolutely nothing to do with the game's development at all, and be fragments of some other game. Due to this, I think it falls under WP:TRIVIA and should be removed. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 09:01, 31 July 2024 (UTC)

Is it fine to leave in the fact that the game was published there two years after the original release date, which is still relevant to the topic? Emiya Mulzomdao (talk) 09:38, 31 July 2024 (UTC)

Personally, if there's a reliable source mentioning it, I believe it's fair game for a mention. Emphasis on "mention" though. Probably just a sentence or two. Sergecross73 msg me 10:19, 31 July 2024 (UTC)

@Emiya Mulzomdao, this is why I wanted to sit down and clarify, as it seems to be more a case of what/how to include the info over whether or not we should. Zxcvbnm is right that the details of this article are very trivial, as details usually are in the grand scheme of things. However, your recent rewording after the revert is written very well and I'm all in favor of keeping it this way. I'd also recommend mentioning the two year gap of the Korean version. Panini! • 🥪 16:21, 31 July 2024 (UTC)

Yeah, the release year gap seems like more of an important information. Emiya Mulzomdao (talk) 12:33, 3 August 2024 (UTC)

Second opinion needed at Talk:Geno (Super Mario RPG)/GA1

Hello, I recently nominated the article Geno (Super Mario RPG) for a GA review. NatwonTSG2 had to taken the task to do the review, however I feel it best if someone with more experience in GA reviews (as well as a good understanding of the character) to give a second opinion and give more pointers for the review. CaptainGalaxy 08:45, 31 July 2024 (UTC)

Heads up: Game Informer officially shutting down

Per an official announcement made today. Sucks to be losing such an invaluable source. If we haven't already, we should definitely make sure any GI references either existing or going forward are properly archived for if/when the site is taken offline. -- Cyberlink420 (talk) 16:24, 2 August 2024 (UTC)

Wow, what a bummer. They've always been such a strong source. Thanks for the heads up. Sergecross73 msg me 16:45, 2 August 2024 (UTC)

Yeah I agreed with you @Sergecross73, Game Informer was one of the few best websites and magazines for video game news and now it's gone. NatwonTSG^TALK 18:47, 2 August 2024 (UTC)

Is the site already down? I currently get "The website encountered an unexpected error. Please try again later.", although that might also point towards an overload. IceWelder [✉] 16:47, 2 August 2024 (UTC)

It's overload, yeah. I thought the same thing, but then it came back up. - Cukie Gherkin (talk) 17:01, 2 August 2024 (UTC)

Update: The site is officially dead. All pages seem to be replaced with the shutdown ("The Final Level: Farewell from Game Informer") notice, not just redirected. λ NegativeMP1 17:32, 2 August 2024 (UTC)

Yes. I had to replace the URL status with archived Game Informer links from "live" to "dead" on articles that have them, and I just hope you do the same. Forutnately, I can still look up video games in the archived link for GI's Legacy Review Archives shown here. Angeldeb82 (talk) 18:58, 2 August 2024 (UTC)

I have done a few spot checks and looks like archive.org is pretty good for archiving gi pages, including recent stuff like their Hades 2 coverage in May. I don't think we need to panic too much about old sourcing using gi. --Masem (t) 17:08, 2 August 2024 (UTC)

Yeah, as is often the case with media outlets closing, the problem is not that the pages aren't archived (they usually are), it's that it becomes so much harder to find relevant sources once they stop being indexed by search engines. There's a whole trove of useful sources that are buried in archive.org that you have to know to look for and spelunk in various snapshots to find the specific url if you don't have it on hand. It's a mess. Axem Titanium (talk) 18:32, 2 August 2024 (UTC)

Yeah, I'm thinking of traveling through some defunct sources to add as ref ideas. - Cukie Gherkin (talk) 18:34, 2 August 2024 (UTC)

Sure, searching them now will be an issue, however, there's no immediate panic in regards to our heavy usage of GI that we should still have Wayback (if not other cached methods) to keep them, compared to other past site shutdowns. Masem (t) 12:37, 3 August 2024 (UTC)

Game Informer was such a useful source. There are a few Game Informer articles that haven't been archived. I was once making an article with GI as a review, but the review link was dead and no archives were available on multiple sites. MK at your service. 04:27, 7 August 2024 (UTC)

Romhacking.net - WP:NOTNEWS?

The page was recently created linking to numerous articles about the site's closure, but I could not find any significant coverage about the site during its actual existence. I am not sure the closure in itself is sufficient to support an article. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 03:38, 3 August 2024 (UTC)

Definitely a WP:NOTNEWS failure, unless further down the line a few sources cover its history and it somehow becomes notable post-shut down. λ NegativeMP1 03:43, 3 August 2024 (UTC)

However, it clearly could be discussed at ROM hack and the content merged. Masem (t) 03:57, 3 August 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for the idea, I redirected it there since there is an agreement it shouldn't stand on its own. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 06:59, 3 August 2024 (UTC)

Redirecting an article less than 12 hours old and still under construction is a bad idea. There is no deadline and be patient and not bitey. It's already been significantly expanded and is still expanding. oknazevad (talk) 07:29, 7 August 2024 (UTC)

I never AfD or redirect an article if the sources are there or I can find sources, regardless of its size. It seems like the creator found additional sources, but there wasn't any indication it was under construction. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 07:46, 7 August 2024 (UTC)

Additional input needed at Talk:Hexuma

Input from more editors would be appreciated at a discussion on Talk:Hexuma regarding in-line citations. Thanks. Waxworker (talk) 20:51, 3 August 2024 (UTC)

New Articles (July 29 to August 4)

Main page: Wikipedia:WikiProject Video games/New article announcements

 A listing of all articles newly added to the Video Games Wikiproject (regardless of creation date). Generated by v3.20 of the RecentVGArticles script and posted by PresN. Bug reports and feature requests are appreciated. --PresN 16:35, 5 August 2024 (UTC)

• Articles deleted/removed: Hasbro Retro Arcade, Comparison of OpenGL and Direct3D, Ciberbit
• Drafts deleted/removed: Draft:Dusty Welch, Draft:Avatar: The Last Airbender - Quest for Balance, Draft:Owen Davies (eSports), Draft:Underworld Gang Wars, Draft:Intoxicated Driver, Draft:Bleed Esports
• Articles redirected: Beamable, Arkham Knight
• Categories deleted/removed: Video games with expansion packs, Video game themes
• New categories: Metal Gear lead images — Kung Fu Man, Eldritch Games games — Waxworker, FreshGames — IgelRM (newly tagged - originally created 1 month ago), System Erasure games — Charcoal feather, Visionary Design Technologies games — Waxworker, 21st Century Entertainment games — Waxworker, Cellular automata in video games — QuantumFoam66 (newly tagged - originally created 1 month ago), Codemasters video game compilations — Beqwk, Punk Development games — Waxworker, RazorSoft games — Waxworker, Topologika games — Waxworker, Video games set in Yugoslavia — QuantumFoam66, Works by Daniel Pemberton — DoubleCross, Acme Animation games — Waxworker, DVD interactive technology — UnlimitedAccess (newly tagged - originally created 19 years ago), Goliath Games games — Waxworker, I'MAX games — Beqwk, Teichiku games — Beqwk, Panther Games video games — Waxworker
• New templates: {{The Lawnmower Man}} — Trivialist, {{Free Fire World Series}} — WikiEditPS

July 29

• Jeepney Simulator (edit talk links history) — Yukitanooki
• Secondfest (edit talk links history) — MRC LTD (newly tagged – originally created 17 years ago)
• Thank Goodness You're Here! (edit talk links history) — Dmartin969 (previously a draft: undrafted by original creator)
• Virtual Cushion (edit talk links history) — Beqwk
• Wikipedia:WikiProject Video games/Video game characters/Header (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) — NegativeMP1
• Wikipedia:WikiProject Video games/Video game characters/Members (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) — NegativeMP1
• Wikipedia:WikiProject Video games/Video game characters/Tabs (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) — NegativeMP1

July 30

• Alzadick (edit talk links history) — Beqwk
• Barunba (edit talk links history) — Beqwk
• Bōken Danshaku Don: The Lost Sunheart (edit talk links history) — Beqwk
• Download (video game) (edit talk links history) — Beqwk
• Download 2 (edit talk links history) — Beqwk
• Enaldinho (edit talk links history) — Sahaib
• God Panic: Shijō Saikyō Gundan (edit talk links history) — Beqwk
• Guardian Force (video game) (edit talk links history) — Beqwk
• Image Fight II: Operation Deepstriker (edit talk links history) — Beqwk
• Irem Arcade Classics (edit talk links history) — Beqwk
• Irem Arcade Hits (edit talk links history) — Beqwk
• Irem Collection (edit talk links history) — Beqwk
• Kiaidan 00 (edit talk links history) — Beqwk
• L-Dis (edit talk links history) — Beqwk
• Mega Dreoilín (edit talk links history) — 109.79.34.61 (previously a draft: accepted AfC submission)
• Mystic Riders (edit talk links history) — Beqwk
• Nexzr (edit talk links history) — Beqwk
• Nightmare Cops (edit talk links history) — Dungeonation
• Psychic Storm (edit talk links history) — Beqwk
• Psycho Chaser (edit talk links history) — Beqwk
• Toy Shop Boys (edit talk links history) — Beqwk
• Dahlia Hawthorne (edit talk links history) — Cukie Gherkin (was previously a redirect)
• Chōjin Heiki Zeroigar (edit talk links history) — Beqwk
• Corporate use of Second Life (edit talk links history) — SLiberman (newly tagged – originally created 14 years ago)
• Download (OVA) (edit talk links history) — Beqwk
• I'MAX (edit talk links history) — Beqwk
• SciLands (edit talk links history) — Hackshaven (newly tagged – originally created 16 years ago)
• Video game compilation (edit talk links history) — Beqwk (was previously a redirect)
• Wheelies (virtual nightclub) (edit talk links history) — Accless (newly tagged – originally created 13 years ago)
• Wikipedia:WikiProject Video games/Video game characters/Recent changes (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) — NegativeMP1

July 31

• 2024 FIFAe World Cup of Football Manager (edit talk links history) — Yoblyblob (previously a userpage: undrafted by original creator)
• .io games (edit talk links history) — MallardTV (was previously a redirect)
• Alex Thach (edit talk links history) — Johnson524
• EA Sports FC 25 (edit talk links history) — Icem4k (previously a userpage: undrafted by original creator)
• Gakuen Idolmaster (edit talk links history) — QuickAnsOnly (newly tagged – originally created 2 months ago)
• Kitsune Tails (edit talk links history) — Ahri Boy (previously a draft: undrafted by original creator)
• PUBG Mobile Global Championship 2024 (edit talk links history) — Shakib69SH (previously a draft: undrafted by original creator)
• United Soft Media (edit talk links history) — Mustang208 (newly tagged – originally created 2 months ago)

August 1

• Void Stranger (edit talk links history) — Charcoal feather (previously a draft: undrafted by original creator)
• Galar (edit talk links history) — Cogsan (was previously a redirect)

August 2

• Twin Eagles Group (edit talk links history) — Dr. Precursor (newly tagged – originally created 2 months ago)

August 3

• Franziska von Karma (edit talk links history) — Cukie Gherkin (was previously a redirect)

August 4

• None

That is a lot of stubs. CaptainGalaxy 17:19, 5 August 2024 (UTC)

Separate articles for Download (video game), Download 2 and Download (OVA) seem a bit overkill. Especially when that OVA has questionable notability. --Mika1h (talk) 18:39, 5 August 2024 (UTC)

Yes, it looks like a specific new user is responsible for like half the creations with a bunch of short/sloppy stubs... Sergecross73 msg me 19:50, 5 August 2024 (UTC)

@Sergecross73:I concur. That is my main gripe with the user Beqwk making these video game articles without much effort into them. However, in the case of Download and its sequel, i have a list of reviews about both titles on a notebook that i could add to properly establish their notability. In the case of the Download OVA, that could be easily merged into the article of the first Download (just like how it's laid out in the Sands of Destruction article for example). Roberth Martinez (talk) 23:28, 5 August 2024 (UTC)

Corporate use of Second Life could probably be merged back into Second Life. (Oinkers42) (talk) 20:12, 5 August 2024 (UTC)

I support a merge. Shooterwalker (talk) 21:14, 5 August 2024 (UTC)

• I don't want to discourage the characters of Ace Attorney articles from above, because they at least address both development and reception, but when the heaviest section in those articles are the Apoearences section, there's a problem. Character articles aren't replacements for avoiding long plot summaries, and while we want their key character role outlined, even if across multiple games, it should still be looking at big picture elements and not at some of the detail I see in those... Unless that us sourced to third party works. Masem (t) 21:36, 5 August 2024 (UTC)

  I whittled down Dahlia's. How does it look? - Cukie Gherkin (talk) 22:33, 5 August 2024 (UTC)

  That's better.. Did you do that to Franziska too, as I thought that was longer when I last looked? Masem (t) 23:00, 5 August 2024 (UTC)

  Yeah, I moved onto that after I finished up with Dahlia. - Cukie Gherkin (talk) 23:11, 5 August 2024 (UTC)

  Both are far better. We don't need to hit every character's story points, just any major beats central to their character (eg Edgeworth in the fourth case of the first game would be a proper major beat but not necessarily all his random appearances later) — Masem (t) 00:13, 6 August 2024 (UTC)

Help with PR

I currently have a peer review open for Undertale, and would like some detailed feedback, as I am planning to bring it to FAC. Any comments are appreciated. — lunaeclipse ⚧ ^(talk) 15:58, 6 August 2024 (UTC)