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August 20, 2024
edit- (Discuss) – Anarchism and naturism → Anarcho-naturism – A few days ago, @Czar performed a unilateral move of this page from "anarcho-naturism" to "anarchism and naturism", giving the edit summary
"no source visibly uses this hyphenation; is not the common name"
. (diff) This is not correct. It doesn't take long to find the use of the term "anarcho-naturism" in the sources cited in this article; within a minute I found its use in Kirwin Shaffer's book Anarchist Cuba, which is cited throughout this article. Furthermore, it does indeed appear that "anarcho-naturism" is the common name: Google Scholar results find 53 results for "anarcho-naturism";[1] compared with 11 for "anarchist naturism";[2] 6 for "libertarian naturism";[3] 2 for "naturist anarchism";[4] and only 4 for the new page name "anarchism and naturism".[5] This article certainly needs work to trim the less reliable sources and remove unverified information from it, but I don't think moving it to a different title and then leaving it as before is a good place to start. As I can't undo the request and I'm not sure this counts as an uncontroversial technical request, I'm requesting this article be moved back to "anarcho-naturism". Grnrchst (talk) 08:31, 20 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Mohammed Waheed Hassan → Mohamed Waheed Hassan – His original name is Mohamed Waheed Hassan. Per https://presidency.gov.mv/PO/FormerPresident/3, double M is not there in Mohamed. In his Identity card and passport, per parliament old website, the Name is Mohamed Waheed Hassan and Full Name as Mohamed Waheed Hassan Manik. MAL MALDIVE (talk) 17:47, 12 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 07:44, 20 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Children's Hospital & Medical Center → Children's Nebraska – the name of the company has officially changed per their website swinquest (talk) 21:07, 12 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 07:41, 20 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Jasper wildfire → 2024 Jasper wildfire – * Jasper Fire → 2000 Jasper wildfire Perhaps moving the article to that name or 2024 Jasper wildfires (note the s at the end), many people would probably search Jasper Fire and be brought to the other unrelated article. Myrealnamm (💬pros · ✏️cons) 18:17, 6 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 21:21, 12 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 07:07, 20 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Kelvin Tan (musician) → ? – Kelvin Tan is also a musician, so this disambiguation doesn't work. jlwoodwa (talk) 03:45, 13 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 06:57, 20 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Xu (surname 徐) → Xú (surname) – We don't need so many articles with Chinese disambiguators. Yinweiaiqing (talk) 03:58, 13 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 06:55, 20 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Yi (Chinese surname) → Yì (surname) – Yī (surname) is also a Chinese surname. Yinweiaiqing (talk) 05:22, 13 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 06:50, 20 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Black Tortoise → Black Turtle-Snake – The Chinese name literally translates to "dark/mysterious military" (no tortoise). It is usually depicted as a turtle (not necessarily a tortoise) intertwined with a snake. The proposed title has been used by many academic publications: "black turtle snake" - Google Scholar "black turtle snake" - Google Books ("Black Snake-Turtle" returns fewer hits.) Yinweiaiqing (talk) 01:27, 13 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Aprilajune (talk) 02:34, 20 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Eliseu Meifrèn → Eliseo Meifrèn – Pro forma request from WP:DISCORD on behalf of User:LemonPoundCakeEditor, who says: "His name should be 'Eliseo', not 'Eliseu'. Eliseu is Portuguese. He's Spanish." jp×g🗯️ 02:17, 20 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – The Man Behind the Curtain → The Man Behind the Curtain (Lost) – To let The Man Behind the Curtain be a disambiguation page. (CC) Tbhotch™ 02:10, 20 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Busted (2002 Busted album) → Busted (Busted studio album) – Per WP:CONCISE. JohnCWiesenthal (talk) 02:09, 20 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Mohamed Atta → Mohammed Atta – WP:COMMONTERM spelling per: * JSTOR: "Mohammed Atta" 478 results - "Mohamed Atta" 291 results * Taylor & Francis: "Mohammed Atta" 161 results - "Mohamed Atta" 109 results * Brill Publishers: "Mohammed Atta" 50 results - "Mohamed Atta" 22 results And the list goes on. I would argue against "Mohamed Atta", "Muhammad Atta", "Mohammad Atta" etc. as alternatives since they have far lesser results than "Mohammed Atta", which is clearly the common spelling in WP:RS. Also, "Mohammed" for Atta is consistent with related al-Qaeda members such as Mohammed Atef, Mohammed Hamdi al-Ahdal, Khalid Sheikh Mohammed etc. Hoping for a quick move. Беарофчечьня (talk) 20:49, 19 August 2024 :See his driver's license, an image of which is in the article. He anglicized his name with a single M. Tarl N. (discuss) 01:09, 20 August 2024 (UTC)
August 19, 2024
edit- (Discuss) – St. Aloysius College (Mangalore) → St. Aloysius (Deemed to be University) – There appears to be evidence that the parenthetical "(Deemed to be University)" is now part of the college's name and has recently become the COMMONNAME for this subject. I support a move to this new name, despite my previous objections. ~ Pbritti (talk) 22:29, 19 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Banijay Entertainment (company) → Banijay Entertainment – unnecessary parentheses KimKelting (talk) 21:58, 19 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Bay Bridge Series → Athletics–Giants rivalry – The rivalry between the two teams will still exist in the short term (at least through 2027), though the scope of the rivalry will be zoomed out from the Bay Area (San Francisco/Oakland) to that of Northern California (San Francisco/Sacramento), being that the A's will play in West Sacramento for at least the next 3 seasons. By changing the name of the page to only include the team names, the scope of the article can better accommodate the new SF/Sacramento reality beginning next year. The Bay Bridge Series is now firmly in the past, but maybe the page move should be delayed until the two teams meet again (whether that be moving the page on the day of the next game of May 16, 2025 or before Spring Training 2025). Alternatively, maybe it's better for it to be effective immediately since the "Bay Bridge Series" is now in the past. Spesh531(talk, contrib., ext.) 21:30, 19 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Shangri-La City → Shangri-La, Yunnan – Per WP:PRECISION. There are other cities and smaller towns named Shangri-La around the world, such as in Brazil and in other parts of Tibet such as Shangri-La County in present-day Sichuan. Yue🌙 21:15, 19 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Elliot Rodger effect → Legacy of the 2014 Isla Vista killings – The term "Elliot Rodger effect" effectively does not exist. It can be assumed to be an attempt at relating it to the Columbine effect, however since this term has not been used by any reliable sources it should not be used as the name of this article. Legacy of the 2014 Isla Vista killings is suggested, as proposed by User:Aszx5000, as that is much more appropriate. Macxcxz (talk) 21:09, 19 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Dasein → Dasein (Heideggerian term) – The topic of this article is Heidegger's use of "Dasein" as a technical term. This usage clearly meets WP:NOTABILITY. Historically, however, there has been considerable confusion over its scope that would expand it to cover any usage of this ordinary German word in a philosophical context. This violates WP:NOTADICTIONARY and would fail a WP:AfD. For examples of this confusion, see, for instance this post (
Regarding your point about the intention of the article, I feel like the author slips between explicating Dasein as a German word and a Heideggarian concept without drawing a distinction
) or this one immediately following it, both from 17 or more years ago. For a recent example, see this (very long) thread that is currently active. I introduced this proposal on the talk page yesterday with no clear consensus so far emerging either way. Please note that this is a request to both removal the italics currently on "Dasein" in order to accord with the practice of English translators and scholars, as well as adding the parenthetical to specify the topic in a way that will help to clarify it for readers and to prevent future confusion among editors. Patrick (talk) 19:52, 19 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – William L. ("T") Thompson → William Thompson (aeronautics commissioner) – or William Thompson (government commissioner) – open to ideas. WP:NICKNAME: "Avoid (for example) adding a nickname, or a contracted version of the original given name(s), in quotes or parentheses between first and last name." This article has such a nickname with both quote marks and parentheses. The article is not sourced to any online sources, and I have not found much. His LinkedIn profile and the cover of at least one book he wrote do not include the "L." The book is credited on Amazon to Captain William "T" Thompson Esq. I think the "T" might be short for "Thompson". — BarrelProof (talk) 19:17, 19 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Nidamanuru, Vijayawada → Nidamanuru – It is Nidamanuru, a neighbourhood, the unilateral move to Nidamanuru, Vijayawada is unexplained and don't understand their point. No Nidamanuru other than the one in Vijayawada exists, hence move it back to Nidamanuru. Thewikizoomer (talk) 18:45, 19 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Tadepalle, Vijayawada → Tadepalli – According to the sources, Tadepalli is located in the capital region of Andhra Pradesh and it is a seperate town having its own municipality. However this article was unilaterally moved - https://cdma.ap.gov.in/en/about-tadepalli-municipality. Also it's Tadepalli and not Tadepalle. Thewikizoomer (talk) 18:41, 19 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Ulshaw Bridge → Ulshaw – Even though the church is described as being in Ulshaw Bridge and it seems the name of the hamlet was previously "Ulshaw Bridge" it seems today the village is named "Ulshaw"[6]. See also sources like [7][8] which aren't particularly reliable but still use "Ulshaw". Apart from results for the church it seems Google results for Ulshaw Bridge are mainly for the bridge so it would probably be reasonable for the bridge to be at the base name. Crouch, Swale (talk) 18:14, 19 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – William Francis Thompson → William Francis Thompson (biologist) – or William Francis Thompson (ichthyologist) or William Francis Thompson (fisheries scientist) for the first one, or William Francis Thompson (magistrate), William Francis Thompson (civil servant) or William Francis Thompson (writer) for the second one. The William Francis Thompson who was born in 1810 was also a published poet, so William Thompson (poet) is arguably WP:incomplete disambiguation unless we assume consistency over whether "Francis" would always be included. There is also William Francis Kynaston Thompson, although his name seems to always include a "K." or "Kynaston". None of these three articles gets more than one page view per day (shown here), so it's hard to consider the 20th-century biologist really dominant over the 19th-century philologist. Wikipedia doesn't ordinarily use lifespan ranges for disambiguation of people. — BarrelProof (talk) 18:01, 19 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Mex → Mex (disambiguation) – The "Mex" title should redirect to the country Mexico, given the overwhelming common usage of "Mex" as an abbreviation for Mexico and the lack of usage of "Mex" for other topics. "Mex" is a well-known abbreviation for Mexico in contexts like international sporting events (e.g., FIFA, Olympic Games), airport codes (MEX for Mexico City International Airport), and by global media outlets. Commonly recognized abbreviations of countries or entities are redirected to the primary topic: USA redirects to the United States, UK redirects to the United Kingdom, and UAE redirects to the United Arab Emirates. Consistency in naming conventions makes it logical for "Mex" to redirect to Mexico, the most recognized association with the term. Other uses of "Mex" would still be accessible to users who need them. A hatnote can be added to the top of the country’s article directing users for the other topics here: Yovt (talk) 15:41, 19 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Monkeypox outbreak → Mpox outbreak – The name changed to mpox in November 2022 already. It is used for the titles of the most recent outbreaks, and Mpox outbreak currently redirects here. Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 14:23, 19 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Women's Senior One Day Trophy → Senior Women's One Day Trophy – The article histories of these articles are complicated. There was consensus to move most of these articles to "Senior Women's" at Talk:Senior Women's One Day Trophy#Requested move 4 November 2021. However, since then, someone has moved pages to the "Women's Senior" name, and these 3 articles were then involved in a WP:Cut and paste move which I reverted procedurely. As such, would be good to get consensus and consistency for all articles in this series. I support the "Senior Women's" name as per the 2021 RM (in which I participated). Joseph2302 (talk) 13:57, 19 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Typhoon Ampil (2024) → Typhoon Ampil – Only typhoon on year 2024. List of storms named Ampil remove a (2024) 210.23.191.145 (talk) 12:58, 19 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Attacks in Russia during the Russian invasion of Ukraine → Attacks in Russia during the Russo-Ukrainian War (2022–present) – The present title is semantically confused, and fails WP:PRECISE, WP:CONCISE and WP:NATURALNESS. The attacks listed in this article are logically part of the 'Russo-Ukrainian War', not the 'Russian invasion of Ukraine', as they were neither carried out by Russia nor occurred in Ukraine. My presumption is that the current title is some kind of WP:NATURAL disambiguation, to ensure that the scope of this article is limited to 2022 and beyond. This is necessary because of the existence of articles like Shelling of Donetsk, Rostov Oblast, that date back to 2014. Therefore, I propose Attacks in Russia during the Russo-Ukrainian War (2022–present), using a title that actually makes sense combined with parenethical disambiguation. Another possibility is expanding the scope of the article to the full extent of the war from its start in 2014, and renaming it Attacks in Russia during the Russo-Ukrainian War. I see both as acceptable options, and a great improvement on the present muddle. RGloucester — ☎ 11:50, 19 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – ICC men's player rankings → ICC Men's Player Rankings – For the title case to be unified with ICC Men's ODI Team Rankings, ICC Men's T20I Team Rankings, ICC Men's Test Team Rankings & ICC Women's ODI and T20I Team Rankings. Vestrian24Bio (TALK) 10:51, 19 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – ICC Men's ODI Team Rankings → ICC ODI Team Rankings – Men's play T20I, ODI & Test while Women's play WT20I, WODI & WTest; no need for a gender-based disambiguation. Vestrian24Bio (TALK) 10:46, 19 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Dark Phoenix (film) → X-Men: Dark Phoenix – The article itself states that the film was better known as X-Men: Dark Phoenix through international marketing, its on-screen title, and international home media releases; it was only known as just Dark Phoenix for U.S. (and Canadian?) marketing. Propose move based on WP:COMMONNAME. – Nick Mitchell 98 talk 10:51, 12 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 10:32, 19 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Ismail al-Ghoul → Killing of Ismail al-Ghoul – al-Ghoul wasn't encyclopedically notable as a journalist before his death. Most of the coverage on him is within the context of his killing, which should be the main focus of the article. Mooonswimmer 10:17, 19 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Digital enhanced cordless telecommunications → DECT – DECT is overwhelmingly the WP:COMMONNAME for the subject. Per MOS:ACROTITLE, if the subject is primarily known through its abbreviation and the abbreviation is not primarily used for something else, it should be used as the page title. Webshops use the abbreviation, such as Best Buy: https://www.bestbuy.com/site/searchpage.jsp?st=cordless+phone and Gigaset, the largest manufacturer of DECTs: https://www.gigaset.com/de_de/telefone/dect-telefone/ If you look at Google News, it is the same: https://news.google.com/search?q=intitle%3ADECT&hl=en-US&gl=US&ceid=US%3Aen The full name even gives zero hits in headlines: https://news.google.com/search?q=%22Digital%20Enhanced%20Cordless%20Telecommunications%22&hl=en-US&gl=US&ceid=US%3Aen The full name gives way less hits too. On Google Scholar, the telephony related abbreviation also far more papers than the full name. PhotographyEdits (talk) 10:02, 19 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Voepass Linhas Aéreas → Voepass – Per WP:COMMONNAME PhotographyEdits (talk) 09:07, 12 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 06:18, 19 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Makar → Makar (poet) – I'm not able to find any indication that the Scottish term for a poet is the primary topic over everything else on the dab page. Google Scholar, books etc. only give results for people with the name. There is also a sizable Nepalese town by this name. (t · c) buidhe 07:57, 5 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Waqar💬 08:57, 12 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 06:15, 19 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Suspicious deaths of notable Russians (2022–2024) → Suspicious deaths of notable Russians in 2022–2024 – It is a weird style choice to use parenthesis here, which are usually used for disambiguation. PhotographyEdits (talk) 08:13, 5 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Waqar💬 08:57, 12 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 06:08, 19 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Ernie Johnson Jr. → Ernie Johnson (sportscaster) – Revert undiscussed move. No evidence that he is commonly known as "Ernie Johnson Jr." 162 etc. (talk) 00:02, 5 August 2024 (UTC) This is a contested technical request (permalink). 162 etc. (talk) 07:50, 5 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Waqar💬 08:49, 12 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 06:05, 19 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Gangwon Province (Korea) → Gangwon Province, Korea – The parentheses imply a disambiguation, but there's no other country in the world with a Gangwon Province. This new title matches the formatting of the descendent split provinces of Gangwon Province, South Korea and Kangwon Province, North Korea. Note that Gangwon Province existed during the Joseon and Korean Empire periods, so Gangwon Province, Joseon wouldn't/shouldn't work. seefooddiet (talk) 05:29, 5 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Waqar💬 08:46, 12 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 06:03, 19 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Abdullah al-Derazi and Youssef al-Manasif → Arrest of Abdullah al-Derazi and Youssef al-Manasif – Please place your rationale for the proposed move here. GnocchiFan (talk) 15:00, 4 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Waqar💬 08:40, 12 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 06:01, 19 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – All-Russia State Television and Radio Broadcasting Company → VGTRK – Concise title and WP:COMMONNAME. 5.32.37.218 (talk) 08:06, 12 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 05:59, 19 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Caritas Institute of Higher Education → Saint Francis University (Hong Kong) – The institute had acquired university title and renamed "Saint Francis University" under approval from the Hong Kong government on 9 January 2024 (more than 7 months ago). The institute uses the new name across its website and communication materials. Media, including South China Morning Post (1, 2) and The Standard, adopted the new name in their articles. The Hong Kong government Security Bureau also uses the new name. Cfls (talk) 07:08, 12 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 05:57, 19 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Armand Duplantis → Mondo Duplantis – He uses his nickname instead of his full name on all the major social media sites and Mondo Duplantis seems very common in news coverage as well. The combination of these two factors prompted me to start a discussion on how to name the article. Killuminator (talk) 12:49, 11 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 05:50, 19 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Family tree of Chinese monarchs (ancient) → Family tree of Chinese monarchs (before 256 BCE) – Likewise: * (early) → (221 BCE – 453 CE) * (middle) → (453–1279) * (late) → (1279–1912) I know each of these boundaries are problematic (Genghis Khan is included in "late" for example, but frankly the core of it is correct and it would help guide readers much better than "early", "middle", and "late". The current Remsense诉 09:53, 3 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Waqar💬 15:01, 11 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 05:47, 19 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Ultimate (sport) → Ultimate Frisbee – On the basis of WP:NATDAB + WP:COMMONNAME. "Ultimate Frisbee" may be less official, but it's much more recognizable, making for a better article title. The sport can be called just "Ultimate" beyond the first paragraph, following common Wikipedia practice. Jruderman (talk) 18:44, 11 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 05:44, 19 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – DeAnna Price → Deanna Price – WP:COMMONNAME per [9] [10] [11] Joeykai (talk) 02:19, 12 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 05:36, 19 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Etisalat by e& → e& – It seems like most sources refer to the company as e&, and that's what they seem to call themselves as well. Sources: Hollywood Reporter, Reuters, Fast Company, Bloomberg, etc. Alternatively, I would also support a move to Etisalat, if that's preferable formatting, because I think there is evidence that many sources use that as well (the companies former name): Light Reading, Developing Telecomes (maybe not independent), Tech in Africa, WSJ (2015 reference), NYT (2012), Computer Weekly, etc. Regardless of the option, the current title does not seem widely used or like the primary search keyword that would be used. It should be noted that we already use the "e&" formatting in other articles, see E& Egypt. Bestagon ⬡ 02:30, 12 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 05:12, 19 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Akan people → Akan peoples – When a group of peoples and the languages they speak have the same name, it is convention to use "name peoples" and "name languages". Here are a few of many examples: # "Germanic peoples" and "Germanic languages" # "Austronesian peoples" and "Austronesian languages" # "Mongolic peoples" and "Mongolic languages" # "Sámi peoples" and "Sámi languages" Move per WP:CONSISTENT. PK2 (talk; contributions) 04:45, 12 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 05:07, 19 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Jacqueline Kennedy Onassis → Jackie Kennedy – Per WP:COMMONNAME. Her sister's name is common name as are those of every 20th-century U.S. first lady. Omnis Scientia (talk) 12:12, 11 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 05:04, 19 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Kökbayraq → Flag of East Turkestan – My expansion of this article has changed the scope from just the Kök Bayraq to all flags used to represent the cultural and geographical region of East Turkestan. I think a move to Flag of East Turkestan would be appropriate to reflect this change. It is also worth noting that I did not include flags used by the Chinese state because the scope is not "all flags used in the region described as East Turkestan or Xinjiang" but rather "all flags that have been used to explicitly represent a region called East Turkestan, specifically" (hence Flag of East Turkestan). Yue🌙 00:53, 19 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Albrecht von Bernstorff → Albrecht von Bernstorff (Prussian diplomat, born 1809) – or the second one could be moved to Albrecht Graf von Bernstorff (German resistor). Both of these people were named Albrecht Graf von Bernstorff. That name redirects to Albrecht von Bernstorff, but the article about Albrecht Graf von Bernstorff (1890-1945) is actually about twice as popular with Wikipedia readers (pageviews here). Wikipedia doesn't ordinarily use lifespan ranges for disambiguation of people. Both of them were Prussian diplomats. I suspect the one born in 1890 is more notable for his resistance to Nazi Germany than for his service as a diplomat. — BarrelProof (talk) 00:46, 19 August 2024 (UTC)
August 18, 2024
edit- (Discuss) – Tommy Robinson → Tommy Robinson (disambiguation) – This Tommy Robinson, is, I think, the WP:PTOPIC for the title. Tommy F. Robinson is disambiguated by his middle initial and Tommy Robinson (hooligan) redirects to a section of a different article, so the main "competition" for primary topic is Tommy Robinson (footballer), who seems to have done reasonably well in the early 20th century. However, Tommy Robinson (activist) is the WP:PTOPIC. As a high-profile criminal and fascist politician and activist, who has been accused of inciting the 2024 riots, he is a major (and controversial) UK political figure. He has more long-term notability than the footballer. Even in 2015, the pageviews of this article were a hundred times higher than that of the footballer; this year the article has a daily average of 6563 views, compared to the footballer's average of just four. Cremastra (talk) 22:53, 18 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – The Void → The Void (disambiguation) – The Void (philosophy) is clearly the primary topic [added] per criteria 2 at WP:PRIMARYTOPIC:
A topic is primary for a term with respect to long-term significance if it has substantially greater enduring notability and educational value than any other topic associated with that term
; however the previous version of the article was mostly a long list of pop culture items. This has been corrected and this level-5 vital article should become the main page. Skyerise (talk) 19:24, 18 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Stefano Jacini → Stefano Jacini (politician, born 1826) – Both were Italian politicians and counts. We don't ordinarily use entire lifespan ranges for disambiguation. Neither is dominant in pageviews, which are about one per day for each. — BarrelProof (talk) 19:22, 18 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Scream (Six Flags) → Scream (Six Flags drop tower) – Partial disambiguation versus Scream (roller coaster) not justified. * Pppery * it has begun... 00:10, 11 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Waqar💬 16:25, 18 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Fort Moore (1846–1853) → Fort Moore (historical) – We need to at least replace the hyphen with an en dash per MOS:DATERANGE, but the purpose of this disambiguation term seems to merely be to distinguish the current Fort Moore from the historical one (assuming Moore's Fort is sufficiently distinct), and "historical" seems like a friendlier way to do that. — BarrelProof (talk) 18:03, 10 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Waqar💬 15:53, 18 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Kazimierz Wodzicki (1816–1889) → Kazimierz Wodzicki (Polish nobleman, born 1816) – We generally do not use entire lifespans as disambiguation terms (see WP:NCPDAB), but I'm not so sure about the "Polish nobleman" part. Both he and his grandson were Polish noblemen and ornithologists. — BarrelProof (talk) 19:21, 9 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Waqar💬 15:50, 18 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Muhammad XII of Granada → Muhammad XII – According to WP:NCROY,
only use a territorial designation (e.g. country) when disambiguation is needed.
There were no other Muhammad XIIs in history. Aintabli (talk) 15:31, 18 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Antihypertensive drug → Antihypertensive – Make shorter (WP:CONCISE, WP:PRECISE), in line with other drug classes like diuretics, analgesics, and antibiotics. –Tobias (talk) 13:02, 11 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Waqar💬 15:18, 18 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – National Security and Defense Council of Ukraine → National Security and Defence Council of Ukraine – Even though the official website states otherwise, I would recommend moving this page to a title aligning with British spelling conventions, since we are discussing an institution in a European country where British English is most common and other institutions, like the Ministry of Defence (Ukraine), follow the same pattern. I believe the people responsible for the translation of Ukrainian to English may not be fully aware of the differences between the two varieties, as they frequently confuse them. Several governmental websites use British spelling, while others use American spelling, and some display a strange mixture of both. –Tobias (talk) 12:08, 11 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Waqar💬 15:18, 18 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Wikipedia:GLAM/YNP → Wikipedia:GLAM/Yorkshire Network Project – Institutions in the GLAM project use the full name. Gonnym (talk) 11:43, 11 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Waqar💬 15:18, 18 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Family talks (1878-2003) → Pláticas de familia – The Spanish title seems more dominant. It's hard to even find the English title. The cited sources also seem to omit the date range. I also question the parentheses (not to mention the hyphen used instead of a dash). — BarrelProof (talk) 06:11, 11 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Waqar💬 15:17, 18 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – National Bolivarian Armed Forces of Venezuela → Bolivarian National Armed Forces – It is the only armed forces in the world with this name. We don't call NASA the National Aeronautics and Space Administration of the USA, so why should we do the same here? Viva Nicolás (talk) 05:29, 11 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Waqar💬 15:17, 18 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Sentiocentrism → Sentientism – The term "sentientism" is simpler and more popular than "sentiocentrism". Searching on Google Scholar returns 168 results for sentiocentrism and 949 for sentientism. On JSTOR, I get 709 results for sentientism and 7 for sentiocentrism Alenoach (talk) 22:46, 10 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Waqar💬 15:17, 18 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – The Water-Babies, A Fairy Tale for a Land Baby → The Water-Babies – Per WP:COMMONNAME and WP:SUBTITLES. The subtitle is rarely used and does not even appear on the covers of many editions. Zacwill (talk) 01:27, 11 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Waqar💬 15:17, 18 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Bee Branch Creek (Iowa) → Bee Branch Creek – The Iowan Bee Branch Creek seems to be far more notable than the Californian Bee Branch. Also, Iowa's BB is the third result when searching for "Bee Branch Creek California" (it may be different based on browser, I used Mozilla's incognito mode for testing). ✶Quxyz✶ 23:05, 9 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Waqar💬 15:13, 18 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Orders of magnitude (magnetic field) → Orders of magnitude (magnetic flux density) – I would move the page myself, but there is currently a redirect. The page does not compare “magnetic fields” – e.g., Earth's magnetic field is much stronger than that of a neodymium magnet – but compares magnetic flux densities, measured in tesla, usually right above the magnet's surface. After the page has been moved the newly created redirect – "Orders of magnitude (magnetic field)" – can be edited to point to Orders of magnitude (magnetic moment) – which is closer to the measure of a magnetic field. Grufo (talk) 05:19, 2 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Waqar💬 08:08, 10 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Waqar💬 15:13, 18 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Republic of Ireland → Ireland – This is technically a request for two moves: Republic of Ireland to Ireland and merging the current Ireland article into Geography of Ireland (or temporarily moving it to Ireland (island)). I'm uncertain if this discussion would be better suited to a broader project talk page, which is why I'm making this proposal here. I am aware of the discussion, that decided to leave the articles on their current titles, but that was simply 15 years ago and there are good reasons for both moving and keeping. However, from what I can see, the reasons to move both articles seem to be predominant. Given the frequency of discussions, it is clear that many editors have made significant efforts on various talk pages to move this article, challenging the incorrect assumption by some editors that there is no reason to believe consensus could have changed over the past decade and a half. "Republic of Ireland" is neither an official term nor is it common, except in Ireland itself and parts of the UK, thus eliminating it as an option. According to the UN. the official English name of the country is, as pointed out by other editors, simply "Ireland". On Wikipedia, we either use the short forms for countries (United Kingdom, Mexico, Russia, or Brazil) or we use the official name if it is already a single and concise term (Canada, Belize, Japan, Hungary). It is clear that this situation falls into the latter category, which also aligns with WP:CONCISE. To avoid the use of parentheses, as seen in Georgia (country), we need to move the article about the island. Taking a glimpse at other island countries like Taiwan or Cyprus, which also occupy their respective short forms, it appears that "Geography of ..." is the established form to describe the underlying island on which the country is located (Geography of Taiwan, Geography of Cyprus). Since Ireland redundantly addresses the politics of its constituent countries—topics that are already covered in their respective articles—I suggest merging it with Geography of Ireland by removing all sections that go beyond the island of Ireland as their subject matter and incorporating all remaining subtopics, such as geological history, into the article Geography of Ireland. Any disambiguation pages don't have to be changed. –Tobias (talk) 13:01, 18 August 2024 (UTC)
- Ireland → Ireland (disambiguation) over redirect without leaving a redirect (implied), then WP:G14 delete if unnecessary
- (Discuss) – Heimlich → Heimlich (disambiguation) – per WikiNav, 94% of visitors to this page are looking for Abdominal thrusts, thus making it the primary topic for this term. This page should be moved so that Heimlich can redirect to Abdominal thrusts. theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 07:40, 18 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Yaoi → Boys' love – It's been four years since the last requested move, and judging by the above discussion from last year, it does seem that consensus is now in favour of Boys' love for the overall topic. This is supported by recent scholarship, which predominantly uses boys' love (or some other variation on punctuation), especially in the context of the genre's international reach as opposed to its manga origins.[12][13][14][15][16][17][18][19][20] While BL is also commonly used in general parlance (and might be more common), it is ambiguous and not recognisable enough without context. There's room for further reorganisation of the content to have Yaoi as a subarticle focusing on the genre's manga origins, as suggested in the above section, but that is a separate matter. Paul_012 (talk) 07:01, 18 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Brothers in Arms (organization) → Brothers and Sisters in Arms – name change requested by organization and name in Hebrew is better represented by new title Omer Toledano (talk) 03:32, 15 August 2024 (UTC) This is a contested technical request (permalink). Omer Toledano (talk) 02:54, 18 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Every Time I Feel the Spirit → Every Time I Feel the Spirit (album) – Album takes its title from the spiritual song, which has been around logner. Despite currently being tagged for notability, I feel most Black spirituals of this sort have a long musical history and are likely to be the primary topic of any disambiguation unless there is compelling evidence to the contrary. Compare How Great Thou Art, which took the primary topic above multiple albums of the same name. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 01:44, 18 August 2024 (UTC)
August 17, 2024
edit- (Discuss) – Udûn → Udûn (The Lord of the Rings: The Rings of Power) – There were some undiscussed moves that led to the television episode ending up at this title and there are some who feel that this title should go to Udun or even Udûn, Mordor. This move was suggested again at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Middle-earth#The Lord of the Rings: The Rings of Power episodes based on consistency with the other episode articles for this series. I was hesitant as I felt that was not a good reason and there was no technical need for the added disambiguation, but I have come to see the value here. - adamstom97 (talk) 11:48, 8 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Reading Beans 19:54, 17 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Christian Conrad Sophus Danneskiold-Samsøe → Christian Conrad Sophus Danneskiold-Samsøe (Danish nobleman, born 1774) – or possibly just "... (nobleman, born 1xxx)". Per pageviews, neither of these seems dominant over the other in readership interest. We don't ordinarily use complete lifespan ranges for disambiguation of people. It is possible that one or both of these people's names can be simplified to just "Christian Danneskiold-Samsøe" (with or without some parenthetical disambiguator); the article about the one born in 1836 says he is "normally referred to as Christian Danneskiold-Samsøe", but as a cautionary note, there were a lot of Christians in the Danneskiold-Samsøe family line. — BarrelProof (talk) 18:57, 17 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Chris Sheppard (DJ) → Chris Sheppard – Primary per pageviews, the Canadian musician is getting over 90% of clicks.[21] Delete dabpage per WP:ONEOTHER. 162 etc. (talk) 18:48, 17 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – List of Israeli massacres in Gaza 2023-2024 → List of Israeli massacres and killings in Gaza 2023-2024 – Several users have issued concerns and debate on which incidents where israel killed large number of civilians or wiped out entire families should be classified as a massacre or not, @Ïvana made a good suggestion to rename the article to this new title, which would be fair enough for all and solve all concerns, which is also in correspondence with List of killings and massacres in Mandatory Palestine Stephan rostie (talk) 17:04, 17 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Twist (mathematics) → Twist (differential geometry) – There is also a twist operation on graded modules, described in Graded ring#Graded module, and Twists of elliptic curves, and it's unclear that this is the primary topic. 1234qwer1234qwer4 14:57, 17 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Prince Chun (淳) → ? – Having a non-English disambiguation isn't helpful on en.Wikipedia where most of the readers except to read text in English. I have no idea what the correct disambiguation is here, but I'm hopeful someone here would. See related discussion Talk:Prince Rui (created 1636)#Requested move 24 July 2024. Gonnym (talk) 07:37, 17 August 2024 (UTC)
- Prince Chun (純) → ?
- Prince Chun (醇) → ?
- (Discuss) – Al Lewis (actor) → Al Lewis – All-time page view stats miles above other pages listed on Al Lewis; easy PTOPIC. QuietHere (talk | contributions) 01:11, 17 August 2024 (UTC)
- Al Lewis → Al Lewis (disambiguation) over redirect without leaving a redirect (implied), then WP:G14 delete if unnecessary
- (Discuss) – Over my dead body → Over My Dead Body – Every entry listed upon the disambiguation page uses initial caps, thus Over my dead body should redirect to Over My Dead Body, rather than Over My Dead Body redirecting, as it currently does, to Over my dead body. — Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 00:17, 17 August 2024 (UTC)
August 16, 2024
edit- (Discuss) – Corduene → Gordyene – Per WP:COMMON NAME. --HistoryofIran (talk) 23:22, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Reeves AN/MSQ-77 Bomb Directing Central → AN/MSQ-77 – It is common practice when naming articles for devices which use the American military JETDS naming convention for the article to be either AN/MSQ-77 or including the system name and type like AN/MSQ-77 Bomb Directing Central. For many examples, see Category:Military electronics of the United States. This would make the page far easier to locate since most users will search for either "AN/MSQ-77" or "AN/MSQ-77 Bomb Directing Central" (the redirect already exists for that one). It is not typical across Wikipedia to place the Manufacturer into the article name, such as Reeves AN/MSQ-77. I am not able to find any examples like that. But I am open to ideas. Please share your thoughts — TadgStirkland401 (TadgTalk) 22:29, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Reeves AN/MSQ-1 Close Support Control Set → AN/MSQ-1 – It is common practice when naming articles for devices which use the American military JETDS naming convention for the article to be either AN/MSQ-1 or including the system name and type like AN/MSQ-1 Coordinate Data Set. For many examples, see Category:Military electronics of the United States. This would make the page far easier to locate since most users will search for either "AN/MSQ-1" or "AN/MSQ-1 Close Support Control Set" (the redirect already exists for that one). It is not typical across Wikipedia to place the Manufacturer into the article name, such as Reeves AN/MSQ-1. I am not able to find any examples like that. But I am open to ideas. Please share your thoughts — TadgStirkland401 (TadgTalk) 22:24, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Martin AN/TSQ-8 Coordinate Data Set → AN/TSQ-8 – It is common practice when naming articles for devices which use the American military JETDS naming convention for the article to be either AN/TSQ-8 or including the system name and type like AN/TSQ-8 Coordinate Data Set. For many examples, see Category:Military electronics of the United States. This would make the page far easier to locate since most users will search for either "AN/TSQ-8" or "AN/TSQ-8 Coordinate Data Set". It is not typical across Wikipedia to place the Manufacturer into the article name, such as Martin AN/TSQ-8. I am not able to find any examples like that. But I am open to ideas. Please share your thoughts — TadgStirkland401 (TadgTalk) 22:18, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Martin AN/FSG-1 Antiaircraft Defense System → AN/FSG-1 – It is common practice when naming articles for devices which use the American military JETDS naming convention for the article to be either AN/FSG-1 or including the system name and type like AN/FSG-1 antiaircraft system (the redirect already exists for that one). For many examples, see Category:Military electronics of the United States. This would make the page far easier to locate since most users will search for "AN/FSG-1" as opposed to "Martin AN/FSG-1". But I am open to ideas. Please share your thoughts — TadgStirkland401 (TadgTalk) 22:11, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Akiko Yajima → Aki Uechi – Current name as of 2024… VenezuelanSpongeBobFan2004 (talk) 22:08, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Westinghouse AN/FPS-27 Radar → AN/FPS-27 – It is common practice when naming articles for devices which use the American military JETDS naming convention for the article to be like either AN/FPS-27 or including the system name and type like AN/FPS-27 radar. For many examples, see Category:Military electronics of the United States. This would make the page far easier to locate since most users will search for either "AN/FPS-27" or "AN/FPS-27 radar". But I am open to ideas. Please share your thoughts — TadgStirkland401 (TadgTalk) 21:44, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – H2X → AN/APS-15 – The article's lede immediately identifies that the only system discussed is the AN/APS-15. It is common practice when naming articles for devices which use the American military JETDS naming convention for the article to be like either "AN/APS-15" or including the system name and type like "AN/APS-15 H2X radar". For many examples, see Category:Military electronics of the United States. This move would make the page far easier to locate since most users will search for either AN/APS-15 or AN/APS-15 H2X radar. But I am open to ideas. Please share your thoughts — TadgStirkland401 (TadgTalk) 21:20, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Don't Know What to Do → Don't Know What to Do (disambiguation) – Clear WP:PRIMARYTOPIC per pageviews. JohnCWiesenthal (talk) 20:13, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – South Asian Muslim grooming gang panic → Ethnicity and grooming gangs in the United Kingdom – As discussed above, "South Asian" is not commonly used by sources. I don't think "moral panic" is unanimous/sourced enough to meet WP:NPOVTITLE. Taking a cue from this BBC article on the topic: "Grooming gangs and ethnicity: What does the evidence say?" Jonathan Deamer (talk) 19:16, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Mass Transit incident (professional wrestling) → Mass Transit incident – Unnecessary disambiguation. There is currently a dabpage at Mass transit incident which should be deleted; none of those things are commonly known as "mass transit incidents" in any reliable sources. 162 etc. (talk) 18:55, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Power Five conferences → Power Four conferences – The Pac-12 has lost all but two members following recent college football realignment, and the vast majority of reliable sources now refer to a group of "Power Four conferences" instead of "Power Five conferences". Although media usage of the term (and its reflection on the media's underlying opinion of the strength of the conferences) should be the decisive factor, it is also relevant that the Pac-12 lost its status in 2024 as an "autonomy conference", which the other four power conferences have. See the second paragraph of this old edit for a slew of sources about how the Power Four has supplanted the Power Five. Orser67 (talk) 17:50, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Litening → AN/AAQ-28 Litening – The article's lede immediately identifies that the only system discussed is the AN/AAQ-28. It is common practice when naming articles for devices which use the American military JETDS naming convention for the article to be like either AN/AAQ-28 or including the system name like AN/AAQ-28 Litening. For many examples, see Category:Military electronics of the United States. This would make the page far easier to locate since most users will search for either AN/AAQ-28 or AN/AAQ-28 Litening. It is not typical across Wikipedia to place the Manufacturer into the article name, such as Rafael AN/AAQ-28 Litening. I am not able to find any examples like that. But I am open to ideas. Please share your thoughts. — TadgStirkland401 (TadgTalk) 16:08, 9 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Waqar💬 17:24, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Michael Bowes-Lyon → Michael Bowes-Lyon (disambiguation) – Every individual listed on the disambiguation page has some further means of disambiguation, be it the Strathmore earldom or they went by a middle name, except for this one. The parenthetical disambiguation does not seem necessary here. Walco1 (talk) 13:46, 9 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Waqar💬 17:23, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Child pornography → Child sexual abuse material – While "child pornography" has been generally accepted as the WP:COMMONNAME for this topic, the article title policy is clear that that is not the only thing we must consider, and that article titles must also be neutral. I think there is also an argument that the common name has shifted in more recent times, with news outlets, academia, government agencies, and NGOs increasingly shifting to use "CSAM" (and similar terms). As is outlined in Child pornography#Terminology and definitions, there has been a broad shift towards using "child sexual abuse material" (or similar terms) as the more neutral term that avoids the inaccurate description of abusive material as consensual pornography. This usage is supported by experts and academics as well as industry/law enforcement organizations including NCMEC (ex) and the US Department of Justice (ex) in the US, the UK Home Office (ex) in the UK, etc. Per the DOJ:
While this phrase still appears in federal law, “child sexual abuse material” is preferred, as it better reflects the abuse that is depicted in the images and videos and the resulting trauma to the child. In fact, in 2016, an international working group, comprising a collection of countries and international organizations working to combat child exploitation, formally recognized “child sexual abuse material” as the preferred term.
GorillaWarfare (she/her • talk) 17:05, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Gembone → agatized dinosaur bone – "Gembone" is not the WP:COMMONNAME, indeed it is so rare-to-nonexistent that (although it is a clever portmanteau of "gemstone" and "bone"), it is not a "recognizable" or "natural" name, the criteria for an article title; indeed, it may be a Wikipedian invention: AFAICT, the term "gembone" is not used in any books (academic or otherwise), and it is mentioned [as an alternate name of "agatized dinosaur bone"] in only one article [reprinted in two places] listed on Google Scholar, which is from 2015, years after this article's 2010 creation. In contrast, "agatized dinosaur bone" is used in dozens of books (mostly scholarly books and governmental- or museum- reports), and half a dozen academic papers, going back decades before Wikipedia existed; it appears to be the common, natural and recognizable title. (Note: as I only considered the relative commonness of the names listed in the article, it is possible that some other name which I did not know to search for is even more common.) -sche (talk) 17:00, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Sean Combs → P. Diddy – Many major sources refer to Combs as "P. Diddy" or "Diddy", like https://www.complex.com/music/a/backwoodsaltar/50-cent-why-people-silent-diddy https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/12/magazine/diddy-sean-combs.html and https://www.vibe.com/news/entertainment/50-cent-hip-hops-silence-diddy-party-tapes-accusations-1234905385/ Frankoceanreal (talk) 16:27, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – 2024 Kolkata rape and murder incident → 2024 Kolkata rape and murder – Incident was pointlessly added to the title in an undiscussed move. 2A00:23EE:1928:8C3:951B:C401:3A56:519A (talk) 15:17, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Killing of Hae Min Lee → Murder of Hae Min Lee – I'm aware that this has been discussed before, and that the consensus was not to move the page. However, there is an argument for restoring the previous title that was not considered during the previous RM.
WP:CONSISTENT states:To the extent that it is practical, titles should be consistent among articles covering similar topics
. In this case, multiple other pages on similar topics (i.e. cases in which a murder conviction was obtained but overturned and no other perpetrator was brought to justice) use the prefix "Murder of..." rather than "Killing of...". These include Murder of Maxwell Confait, Murder of Wendy Sewell, Murder of Alison Shaughnessy, Murder of Keith Blakelock, Murder of Marie Wilks, and Murder of Linda Cook. Like in these cases, Adnan Syed's conviction has been vacated (albeit this is being reviewed) and nobody else has been found guilty of killing Hae Min Lee, so the title should be changed to be consistent with the other articles. An argument was made by @Tamzin: thatThere is no way to call this the "Murder of Hae Min Lee" without risking the implication that Syed's murder conviction remains valid
, but as it is widely known that his conviction is not in fact valid (indeed, this is likely the reason most people have heard of the case) I don't agree that this is the case. Nobody is going to read the word "murder" in the title and construe it as a proclamation that Adnan Syed is and remains her murderer for all time: the only thing people will take away from it is that she was murdered. TRCRF22 (talk) 14:41, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Stadionul Carpați → Carpați Stadium (1950) – To not be confused with the new Carpați Stadium (2024). Rhinen (talk) 13:08, 9 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Waqar💬 14:40, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – 2022 Nord Stream pipeline sabotage → Nord Stream pipelines sabotage – The previous requested move was procedural closed because the user who requested it was not yet extended confirmed. However, I agree with the reasoning and therefor I am doing the proposal again. There were two pipelines sabotaged, so it should be plural. The year disambiguation is not needed. PhotographyEdits (talk) 13:37, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – List of F4 and EF4 tornadoes (1950–1959) → List of F4 tornadoes (1950–1959) – EF scale was not introduced until 2007, unsure if the IF scale has been used to retroactively rate tornadoes from this period but almost every tornado from this period was rated on the F scale. Adding a discussion because I'm currently unsure whether the fact no EF scale tornadoes existed is more or less important than the consistency from year-to-year lists. GeorgeMemulous (talk) 13:32, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Sergiy → Serhii – 1.More results, 2.MOS:UKR.--MykolaHK (talk) 13:00, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Total Express Linhas Aéreas → Total Express – Per WP:COMMONNAME. PhotographyEdits (talk) 12:05, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – List of rail accidents (2020–present) → List of rail accidents from 2020 – etc. I think its more natural, removing the need for disambiguation in brackets. Note that every article in lists of rail accidents by year will be renamed to that format, not just those listed above, hence why I put etc. JuniperChill (talk) 10:13, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Zeppola → Zeppole – I strongly dislike this habit of the English language of writing some Italian foods in the plural, but I'm a fair user; see: https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=zeppola%2Czeppole&year_start=1800&year_end=2022&corpus=en&smoothing=3. JacktheBrown (talk) 10:12, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Southeastern (train operating company, 2006–2021) → Southeastern (2006–2021 train operating company) – I think its more natural way of disambiguating TOCs by years. It matches Banana (1986 video game), but since it contains two years, I am not sure if its acceptable. [updated 22:27 16 August 2024] just also note that the original title was Southeastern (train operating company 2006–2021) (without the comma) which is option C if it needs to be move back to that. What do you guys think? JuniperChill (talk) 10:04, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – TV Osaka → Television Osaka – Official company name VenezuelanSpongeBobFan2004 (talk) 08:30, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Lady Henry Somerset → Lady Isabella Somerset – As mentioned in the article, this person "won the court case in 1878 and resumed the style of Lady Isabella Somerset", and after 1878 she used "Lady Isabella Somerset" as her official style. Because of this name change, the article title of this person in the Oxford Dictionary of National Biography is "Somerset [née Somers-Cocks], Lady Isabella Caroline [Lady Henry Somerset]", and the ODNB calls her "Lady Isabella" in the article. The British Museum also registers her as "Lady Isabella Somerset". There is also an academic article which calls her "Lady Isabella Somerset". According to Wikipedia:Article_titles#Name_changes, "When this [a change of name] occurs, we give extra weight to independent, reliable, English-language sources ("reliable sources" for short) written after the name change". Since this person is called "Lady Isabella Somerset" in recent reliable sources, the name of the article should be "Lady Isabella Somerset". The move was already proposed in 2017, but it was not performed. saebou (talk) 08:04, 14 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 21:44, 21 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. FOARP (talk) 08:25, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Aegukka → National Anthem of the Democratic People's Republic of Korea – After the DPRK's abandonment of unification, the title Aegukka seems to have fallen out of use at least on KCTV (first on the Hwasŏng Area completion event, and now the July 27 "victory" celebration), and Korean: 조선민주주의인민공화국 국가, lit. 'National Anthem of the Democratic People's Republic of Korea' has taken its place. On the other hand, the site of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the DPRK, as well as the current constitution, still mentions that the national anthem is titled "애국가". Another reason of my proposal is due to the current title's possible confusion with the ROK's Aegukga, where currently neither title has a modifier, which may cause confusion to readers not familiar to the two romanization systems. OosakaNoOusama (talk) 22:32, 31 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Polyamorph (talk) 15:51, 8 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 08:09, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Air raids on Australia, 1942–1943 → Air raids on Australia – There was only one, see "Air raids on Japan" as format. Gryffindor (talk) 11:40, 25 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 19:08, 1 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 23:07, 8 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 08:07, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – 2017 USL Cup Playoffs → 2017 USL Cup playoffs – Like other sports, leagues, tournaments, etc. (most recently see Talk:MLS Cup Playoffs#Requested move 31 July 2024), "playoffs" is generic, not part of the proper name "USL Cup" or "USL Championship". Dicklyon (talk) 04:42, 9 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 08:06, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
- 2018 USL Cup Playoffs → 2018 USL Cup playoffs
- 2019 USL Championship Playoffs → 2019 USL Championship playoffs
- 2020 USL Championship Playoffs → 2020 USL Championship playoffs
- 2021 USL Championship Playoffs → 2021 USL Championship playoffs
- 2022 USL Championship Playoffs → 2022 USL Championship playoffs
- 2023 USL Championship Playoffs → 2023 USL Championship playoffs
- (Discuss) – Jim Ferguson (public servant) → Jim Ferguson (Australian ambassador) – or Jim Ferguson (Australian administrator). The "public servant" designation is vague and rare on Wikipedia (less than 150 articles that I could find), and I'm sure all of the other politicians listed on the James Ferguson disambiguation page would say they were public servants too. — BarrelProof (talk) 04:17, 9 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 08:06, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Joao Ortiz → Joao Ortiz (Chilean footballer) – no WP:PRIMARYTOPIC Joeykai (talk) 04:48, 9 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 08:06, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Marcelo Suárez → Marcelo Suárez (Uruguayan footballer) – no WP:PRIMARYTOPIC Joeykai (talk) 04:49, 9 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 08:05, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Kick a Goal → Shooting Stars – https://tv.apple.com/us/show/shooting-stars/umc.cmc.5nuhfymikhkppkz4hbjkhutqm 222.108.25.249 (talk) 07:25, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Blue Line (withdrawal line) → Blue Line (Israel-Lebanon border) – This is the de facto border between Israel and Lebanon. The fact that Israel withdrew to that line in 2000 is secondary. The Mountain of Eden (talk) 04:45, 16 August 2024 (UTC) The Mountain of Eden (talk) 04:45, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – National Public Data → 2024 National Public Data Breach – Please place your rationale for the proposed move here. ѕιη¢єяєℓу ƒяσм, ᗰOᗪ ᑕᖇEᗩTOᖇ 🏡 🗨 📝 03:19, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Round Here → Round Here (Counting Crows song) – Inbound links and page views suggest there is no WP:PRIMARYTOPIC and all the "Round Here"s should be disambiguated instead. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 02:27, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Forest Fair Village → Forest Fair Mall – Most contemporary sources after the abandonment refer to it as "Forest Fair Mall". Compare Swifton Center, which uses the historical name and not the last one used. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 01:03, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
August 15, 2024
edit- (Discuss) – Chinese whispers → Telephone game – How about, given the choice between using a racist name popular in the former British Empire, and a non-racist name popular amongst more people in the rest of the world, we choose the non-racist name? It's an embarrassment to Wikipedia that the many prior RMs have centered around WP:ENGVAR--as if racism is a matter of English variation--and WP:RETAIN--as if we should continue to have a racist name because we've always had a racist name. Given the choice of two common, recognizable, natural, precise, concise, and consistent names, let's go with the one that does not imply something negative about Chinese people. Levivich (talk) 23:51, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – When a white horse is not a horse → White horse is not horse – The original text does not have "when" in it. Names for the article in other languages don't include "when". The current title of the article is not the name of the paradox itself, it is the name of a 1995 paper about the paradox. It's called simply “white horse is not horse” by many sources (e.g. Indraccolo 2017), which is a good translation from the original text. Mateussf (talk) 22:47, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Ultra-high-temperature processing → Ultra-pasteurization – Common name by a wide margin, per Google Ngrams. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 22:07, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – St V → Saint Verhaegen – I am starting a move request to retitle this article to 'Saint Verhaegen', as suggested above by JhowieNitnek. This is the event's full and common English name, and is preferrable to an abbreviation. This is also consistent with Brussels naming conventions. Jason Lagos (talk) 21:58, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Jenny Craig (entrepreneur) → Jenny Craig (businesswoman) – NPOV (WP:ENTREPRENEUR). — BarrelProof (talk) 21:56, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Keith Dwayne Nelson → Murder of Pamela Butler – Per WP:CRIMINAL and for reasons stated and discussed on the talk page: [22] Inexpiable (talk) 20:23, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – List of Coronation Street characters (1960) → List of Coronation Street characters introduced in 1960 – This is an abbreviated list, as there are a total of 305 articles at titles like List of Coronation Street characters (1990) and List of Emmerdale characters (2018), all of which are proposed for retitling. The complete list is at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Television#Lists of series characters by year. These titles are deceptive, as they are not for lists of all characters on the series in those years, but are only lists of characters introduced in those years — a fact reflected in the category tree for these articles, Category:Television characters by year of introduction, containing, e.g., Category:Television characters introduced in 1995. I propose to move all of these to "List of [name of show] characters introduced in [year]" titles. BD2412 T 20:13, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
- List of Days of Our Lives characters (2020s) → List of Days of Our Lives characters introduced in the 2020s
- List of Doctors characters (2000) → List of Doctors characters introduced in 2000
- List of EastEnders characters (1985) → List of EastEnders characters introduced in 1985
- List of Emmerdale Farm characters (1972–1973) → List of Emmerdale Farm characters introduced in 1972–1973
- List of Emmerdale Farm characters (1974) → List of Emmerdale Farm characters introduced in 1974
- List of General Hospital characters (2020s) → List of General Hospital characters introduced in the 2020s
- List of Hollyoaks characters (1995–1996) → List of Hollyoaks characters introduced in 1995–1996
- List of Hollyoaks characters (1997) → List of Hollyoaks characters introduced in 1997
- List of Home and Away characters (1988) → List of Home and Away characters introduced in 1988
- List of Neighbours characters (1985) → List of Neighbours characters introduced in 1985
- List of Shortland Street characters (1992) → List of Shortland Street characters introduced in 1992
- List of The Bold and the Beautiful characters (2010s) → List of The Bold and the Beautiful characters introduced in the 2010s
- List of The Bold and the Beautiful characters (2020s) → List of The Bold and the Beautiful characters introduced in the 2020s
- List of The Young and the Restless characters (1970s) → List of The Young and the Restless characters introduced in the 1970s
- List of The Young and the Restless characters (2000s) → List of The Young and the Restless characters introduced in the 2000s
- List of The Young and the Restless characters (2010) → List of The Young and the Restless characters introduced in 2010
- (Discuss) – Philip Kim → Philip Kim (physicist) – Unlikely that this is primary ahead of Olympic champion Philip Kim (breakdancer). Article has averaged less than 15 daily pageviews this year. 162 etc. (talk) 20:13, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Sihanoukville (city) → Sihanoukville – WP:Commonname, most commonly refers to the city. The page for the province is now Preah Sihanouk province, indicating this is how the province is most commonly referred to in this way. The disambiguation can be defined easily in a hatnote. Other pages currently in the disambiguation page are Preah Sihanouk municipality (again now called another name rather than Sihanoukville) and Sihanoukville Autonomous Port, which has a low chance of being confused with Sihanoukville. Arcahaeoindris (talk) 14:44, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
- Sihanoukville → Sihanoukville (disambiguation) over redirect without leaving a redirect (implied), then WP:G14 delete if unnecessary
- (Discuss) – IDN homograph attack → IDN homoglyph attack – More accurate, recognizable enough. Jruderman (talk) 20:51, 7 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Waqar💬 08:27, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Afro-Puerto Ricans → Afro–Puerto Ricans – Per MOS:PREFIXDASH, when applying a prefix to a multi-word phrase, such as in this case "Puerto Ricans" and "Costa Ricans," an endash should be used instead of a hyphen. Bensci54 (talk) 20:38, 7 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Andrewa (talk) 07:41, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Ariane Lipski → Ariane da Silva – name change after marriage. Do I have to request these or can I move the pages as soon as this happens. MMAJunkie / ESPN / MMAFighting posts her under her new name: https://mmajunkie.usatoday.com/2024/08/ufc-edmonton-dana-white-rose-namajunas-vs-erin-blanchfield-fight-card / https://www.espn.com/mma/fighter/_/id/4227318/ariane-da-silva and https://www.mmafighting.com/2024/4/27/24141303/ariane-lipski-da-silva-karine-silva-ufc-vegas-91-ready-top-division / Official Instagram has new name too: https://www.instagram.com/arianemdasilva/ Marty2Hotty (talk) 06:54, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – SARS-related coronavirus → Betacoronavirus pandemicum – "Betacoronavirus pandemicum" is the official binomial name for the species. Benpiano800 (talk) 03:24, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Capitanes de Ciudad de México → Mexico City Capitanes – "Mexico City Capitanes" is how the team is listed on the NBA G League website, in its "Teams," "Standings," "Schedule" pages et al. In addition, various articles on the team in the Associated Press, GQ magazine, Dallas Morning News, Slam magazine and Basketball-Reference.com list the team as the "Mexico City Capitanes," which is evidence towards that being its English COMMONNAME. There is a solid precedent in United States and Canadian sports teams using that naming convention for their English team articles; after all, the Montreal Canadiens are not listed as "Canadiens de Montréal," the Montreal Expos are not listed as "Expos de Montréal" and the Quebec Nordiques are not listed as "Nordiques de Québec". In fact, there's a stronger case that "Mexico City Capitanes" is this team's English common name than that Mexico City Arena is their home arena's English common name (many English speakers still refer to it as Arena CDMX or CDMX Arena)-but that's another discussion, and may be started another time. Tom Danson (talk) 02:35, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Florida State Road 836 → Dolphin East-West Expressway – The component highways for the Dolphin East-West Expressway are SR 836 and I-395. 2600:1700:6180:6290:213D:5B2:7FA8:1306 (talk) 01:13, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Indo-Trinidadian and Tobagonian → Indo-Trinidadians and Tobagonians – The name of the page was incorrectly moved. Sendo79 (talk) 01:13, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Barbara Kovács → Barbara Oláh – WP:COMMONNAME as she is currently competing under the name Barbara Oláh [23] [24] Joeykai (talk) 00:57, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Charles de Chambrun (1827-1880) → Charles de Chambrun (politician, born 1827) – Wikipedia doesn't ordinarily use lifespans as disambiguators. Looking for a potential primary topic, the diplomat (who was also a writer and member of the Académie française) is the most popular, but not by a huge margin (he gets about 64 percent of the total views of the three topics). — BarrelProof (talk) 00:49, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Oleksiy Omel'chenko → Oleksiy Omelchenko – remove softsign or alternatively moving according to MOS:UKR. MykolaHK (talk) 00:03, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
August 14, 2024
edit- (Discuss) – Indo-Caribbeans → Indo-Caribbean people – "Caribbeans" is not a correct term to describe people from the Caribbean. They are referred to as "Caribbean people". This is also the case with other articles like Afro-Caribbean people and Caribbean people. Sendo79 (talk) 23:22, 14 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Serbian SuperLiga → Serbian Super League – The competition's official English name used by the league in its official documents and by UEFA. "SuperLiga" is just a stylized version of its native name and is rarely used in written Serbian. 47.201.233.193 (talk) 21:42, 14 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – LGBT → LGBTQ – Google ngrams has now released their newest dataset to 2022, so the time has come since the last discussion last year in June 2023 which already trended in the direction of LGBTQ, but was held of in light of not having enough clarity if LGBTQ had determinstically overtaken LGBT (with the old ngram data having been only up to 2019, where it was clear LGBTQ was on the path, but not over it yet. Well, we now have the latest Ngram data up to 2022 and shows that indeed this trend was confirmed and LGBTQ has squarely overtaken LGBT and furthermore, LGBT is on a now clear downwards trend since 2017. Google Scholar also supports this in the scholarly field with LGBTQ showing 20,000 results in recent years, versus LGBT a 17,800 results. Raladic (talk) 21:23, 14 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Get Your Shine On (Florida Georgia Line song) → Get Your Shine On – Inbound links and page metrics suggest this is the more popular by far of the two songs named "Get Your Shine On" and almost certainly the only one people are looking for under that title. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 20:06, 14 August 2024 (UTC)
- Get Your Shine On → Get Your Shine On (disambiguation) over redirect without leaving a redirect (implied), then WP:G14 delete if unnecessary
- (Discuss) – Tonlé Sap → Tonlé Sap Lake – The original name before renamed after the discussion Talk:Tonlé_Sap#Rename above, due to possible confusion with the river that connect the lake and Mekong. The name "Tonlé Sap Lake" is NOT redundant at all. In that discussion user Markalexander100 stated that "Khmer and English terms aren't quite equivalent. In Khmer, as far as I can tell, there is one name- Tonle Sap- which refers to the lake and river together, while in English we differentiate them." This is not quite right because the official name of the lake in Khmer is "បឹងទន្លេសាប" (Boeng Tonle Sap), where បឹង/boeng means lake. So clearly they still have the word "lake" in the name, to differentiate it from the river. ទន្លេ/Tonle means river and that's its only meaning, not "Tonlé already means lake (or a very large, wide river)" as stated by user Dara above. For example, Mekong is "Tonlé Mekong", Bassac River is "Tonlé Bassac", Kong River is "Tonlé Kong". There's no known translation as Tonlé to "lake". Another similarly named geographic feature is the Boeng Tonle Chhmar (a smaller lake next to the Tonle Sap Lake). So to sum up, if we say "Tonle Sap" (without adding "Boeng") to the Khmer-speaking people, theoretically we are referring to the river (according to the meaning of the words). But then since the lake is too well-known, the term "Tonle Sap" will become ambiguous. However, as a matter of fact, they should be able to tell which one you are referring to, based on the context of the conversation. My suggestion is to rename this article to Tonlé Sap Lake, and have a separate article about the river. Two options for this separate article's name is: #Tonlé Sap (as per its literal meaning in Khmer) or, #Tonlé Sap (river) and Tonlé Sap becomes the disambiguation page. The reason for having a separate article for the river is simply because not everything about the river can be merged into the lake's article. For example, Phnom Penh, the state's capital, is located at the mouth of the river and there's probably something about the river related to Phnom Penh's urban planning that's worth writing about. And merging these into the lake's article would be inappropriate. ទន្លេតូច (talk) 23:27, 10 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 22:29, 18 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Reading Beans 17:46, 14 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Global War Party → Global war party – Per MOS:CAPS GnocchiFan (talk) 20:17, 16 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Reading Beans 17:42, 14 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Steward Health Care System → Steward Health Care – The website of this hospital network does not use system in its name. And another reason for the change, all of the articles that I have looked at due not use system either. Catfurball (talk) 16:45, 14 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Irish anti-immigration protests (2022–present) → Irish anti-refugee protests (2022–present) – The protests and riots have all been connected by a theme of opposition to various refugees (whether that be asylum seekers, International Protection Applicants etc.) I think therefore a much more accurate title for this article would refer to refugees rather than immigrants. The various parties involved have not expressed opposition or mounted protests against European immigrants from the EU, for example, or against people moving from England. It is solely directed against refugees. Wikiejd2 (talk) 16:27, 14 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – What's up → What's up? – This phrase is naturally a question, so it should be punctuated as a question. — BarrelProof (talk) 20:21, 6 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Bensci54 (talk) 16:25, 14 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Elsa, Princess of Liechtenstein → Elsa von Gutmann – This title seems to be in line with WP:CONSORTS, whereby consorts of sovereigns are often known by their maiden names. Векочел (talk) 12:44, 14 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Harbingers (comics) → Harbingers (Valiant Comics) – There are Harbingers in other comics (see Harbinger (DC Comics) as one example), but this article is only about the Valiant Comics versions. If moved, the current title should redirected to the dab page. Gonnym (talk) 12:30, 14 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Frittella (doughnut) → Frittelle – Plural form, as they are only ever encountered in groups. Cf. spaghetti. Also eliminates the need for disambiguation. Un assiolo (talk) 09:08, 14 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Bird Island, South Georgia → Bird Island (South Georgia) – Consistent form of disambiguation with other islands in the group and per guidelines at WP:PLACEDAB. Turnagra (talk) 23:11, 3 August 2024 (UTC) This is a contested technical request (permalink). 2pou (talk) 23:19, 5 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Waqar💬 07:16, 14 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Kopiko (confectionery) → Kopiko (brand) – The brand doesn't just produce candy, but also coffee themselves. Ahri Boy (talk) 05:42, 14 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Bruce Wayne (DC Extended Universe) → Batman (DC Extended Universe) – I propose renaming these pages because their current titles do not align with Wikipedia's naming conventions. Specifically, the titles used are not the most commonly recognized names for these subjects. Lililolol (talk) 05:12, 14 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Zyn → Zyn (disambiguation) – Clear primary topic (70 000 page views in the past month compared to 300-1000 on other pages). There is no other article with just the title "Zyn" either. C F A 💬 03:05, 14 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Toad worship → Moha – should use pinyin instead of direct translation to avoid ambiguity Coddlebean (talk) 03:01, 14 August 2024 (UTC)
- Moha → Moha (disambiguation) over redirect without leaving a redirect (implied), then WP:G14 delete if unnecessary
- (Discuss) – PAW Patrol → Paw Patrol – Per sources and WP:NCCAPS Schierbecker (talk) 02:30, 14 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Chinese character pianpangs → Pianpang – Per WP:CRITERIA of naturalness and concision. No need to disambiguate like with "component" or "radical". Remsense诉 02:07, 14 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – List of most-followed Twitter accounts → List of most-followed X accounts – most reliable sources refer to twitter as X. I feel it might as well be changed for integrity purposes at this rate. MarkJames1989 (talk) 16:45, 13 August 2024 (UTC) This is a contested technical request (permalink). estar8806 (talk) ★ 01:34, 14 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – 2024–25 King Cup → 2024–25 King's Cup – To match the parent article and correct a grammatical error. EpicAdventurer (talk) 00:48, 14 August 2024 (UTC)
August 13, 2024
edit- (Discuss) – Portrait of the Duke of Wellington → Portrait of the Duke of Wellington (Goya) – Lack of a clear primary topic. ‑‑Neveselbert (talk · contribs · email) 22:32, 13 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Toshio Suzuki (producer) → Toshio Suzuki – I believe the producer is the primary topic for this name, as the article about him receives in excess of 15 times the monthly pageviews as the one for the racer. The producer has also been the president of Studio Ghibli and is credited on many of its films, many of which are among the highest-grossing of all time in Japan. —TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 21:18, 13 August 2024 (UTC)
- Toshio Suzuki → Toshio Suzuki (disambiguation) over redirect without leaving a redirect (implied), then WP:G14 delete if unnecessary
- (Discuss) – Death of Israa Ghrayeb → Killing of Israa Ghrayeb – Per WP:DEATHS, Ghrayeb's death was a killing. The cited sources also use the same language. मल्ल (talk) 19:57, 13 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Non è la RAI → Non è la Rai – see this discussion. JacktheBrown (talk) 21:34, 21 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Waqar💬 15:56, 5 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. – robertsky (talk) 19:08, 13 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Waqar💬 19:42, 13 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Ecolego → AFRY Intelligent Scenario Modelling – The software described in this article has changed its name to AFRY Intelligent Scenario Modelling. Note that I have a conflict of interest because I am an employee of AFRY, which is the developer of the product described in this article I am proposing to move. Boriswe (talk) 16:05, 6 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Waqar💬 19:10, 13 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Qi (Henan) → Qǐ (state) – Currently this is the only article in Category:Ancient Chinese states that isn't disambiguated by the word "state". Several other reasons for the move request: Qi County, Hebi and Qi County, Kaifeng are both in Henan; the 12th-century puppet state Qi was also based in Henan; and several other polities named Qi also covered parts or the whole of Henan (including the Shandong-based Qi (state)). Not saying that the word "state" is in any way precise (it's obviously not), but it's good to be consistent with other articles in the same category. Yinweiaiqing (talk) 19:01, 13 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Condorcet paradox → Condorcet cycle – Including "cycle" more clearly identifies the nature of the paradox. The focus of the page is cycles and handling them, rather than the paradoxical nature of their existence. Jruderman (talk) 18:24, 13 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Signal (messaging app) → Signal (instant messenger) – Signal isn't just an app, it's a whole service. So calling it messaging app is misleading. Instant messenger is a more accurate term. Sucrehypsy (talk) 17:49, 6 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Bobby Cohn (talk) 18:05, 13 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Prince Ying (英) → Prince Yīng – We don't need so many articles with Chinese disambiguators. Yinweiaiqing (talk) 18:02, 13 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Prince Xian (諴) → Prince Xián – We don't need so many articles with Chinese disambiguators. Yinweiaiqing (talk) 18:01, 13 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Giuseppe Turchi (1840-1895) → Giuseppe Turchi (painter, born 1840) – We don't ordinarily use lifespans as disambiguators for people. — BarrelProof (talk) 17:04, 13 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – No net loss wetlands policy → No net loss policy in the United States – The page focuses only on the policy in the United States, even though these policies are now found worldwide and not necessarily just for wetlands. I think the page should be renamed 'No net loss policy in the United States' and then a separate page for 'No net loss policy' worldwide could be created because this article lacks a worldwide view. Manxshearwater (talk) 08:43, 6 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Bensci54 (talk) 16:51, 13 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Canadian (disambiguation) → Canadian – It's safe to say that Canadian doesn't have a primary topic, just like almost every other nationalities (American, Australian, British, Brazilian, Mexican, etc per WP:CONSISTENT) because it can also refer to the something from Canada, its citizens, and either the English/French variety of that language. In fact, Australian (disambiguation) was only recently moved to Australian back in October 2022. JuniperChill (talk) 16:26, 13 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – LGBT representations in hip hop music → LGBT representation in hip hop music – The singular form makes more sense in the title. See similar article titles such as LGBT representation in children's television, LGBT representation in South Korean film and television, and LGBT representation in The Simpsons. मल्ल (talk) 15:01, 13 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – List of Korean Academy Award winners and nominees → List of South Korean Academy Award winners and nominees – Move from Korean to South Korean to fit in like the Oscar submission did. GeniusTaker (talk) 15:01, 13 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Abortion-rights movements → Abortion rights movements – Per WP:COMMONNAME. No other rights movement uses the hyphenated version of the title (e.g. civil rights, women's rights, gay rights, etc.) on Wikipedia. Google Books shows "abortion rights" and "abortion rights movement" are at least 10x more common than their counterparts, and a quick Google Scholar and Pubmed search shows almost unanimous use of "abortion rights" without the hyphen. PassedDown (talk | contribs) 14:12, 13 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – MLS is Back Tournament → MLS is Back tournament – The brand name is "MLS is Back"; as the article says, they applied it to their Covid-comeback tournament (quote: The name "MLS is Back" was reused from a marketing slogan used prior to the season.). Book sources appear to use majority lowercase "tournament". Per WP:NCCAPS and MOS:CAPS we should not be dressing these up like a proper names unless sources consistently do so. Dicklyon (talk) 14:05, 13 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Deadlock → Deadlock (computer science) – It's odd that a computer science term is primary when the original meaning of the word, dead bolt (aka deadlock) is not. Seems like an example of systemic bias given many Wiki editors are comp-sci people, but it has to be changed to reflect common usage. I think the best compromise is to establish that there is no actual primary topic for the term, as it can have many meanings outside of comp-sci, such as a hung jury. (Also, the recent spike in views is people looking for the new video game, which doesn't have an article yet, but that is what made me scratch my head about why exactly this page is here). ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 13:08, 13 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Artms → ARTMS – Per MOS:TMRULES,
When a name is almost never written except in a particular stylized form, use that form on Wikipedia.
As well, under MOS:BIOEXCEPT and MOS:IDENTITY, living subjects of articles are entitled to exceptional stylization if groups clearly and consistently use an exceptional style, and an overwhelming majority of sources use the same exceptional style. When read in the context of WP:BLP, Wikipedia is probably necessarily compelled to use the exceptional style in such situations. A Google News search [25] does not yield any results which do not stylize the group as ARTMS. Included in the articles which populate in the search results for me are NME, allkpop, Billboard, Hindustan Times, Korea JoongAng Daily, ABS-CBN News, Pop Matters. Outside of Google News, sites like Sputnik Music which reviewed their debut album earlier this year all took care to stylize the group's name as ARTMS. The Korean language edition of Wikipedia titles the respective article as ARTMS, as does the Japanese language edition. While I invite editors to debate the reliability of these sources or discuss points of difference in policy (so as to set a robust precedent), I also invite them to find any reliable sources which do not use the exceptional stylization. Officially, their primary website could be argued as ambiguous since we only have the all caps logo to go off of, but their official fansite consistently stylizes the name of the group as ARTMS. Their social media is consistent with the ARTMS stylization on Youtube, TikTok, Instagram, X, and their official Discord server. Marketplaces including Barnes & Noble, Amazon, Apple Music, and streaming services such as Spotify all observe the ARTMS stylization. The only exception I was successful in finding was Tidal, but it's not clear to me if this is because there is another musical act by the same name but opposite stylization (it doesn't appear to be WP:NOTABLE or in possible contention as the WP:PTOPIC in the future, but this could help disambiguate down the line). Wikipedia is not beholden to fans on SNS or fan wikis, but they can help give some indication of the WP:COMMONNAME; users on reddit and X appear to overwhelmingly observe the ARTMS stylization, as do users on any number of fan wikis I found; [26], [27], [28]. 122141510 (talk) 23:42, 25 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Steel1943 (talk) 12:56, 13 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Chhatrapati Shivaji Maharaj International Airport → Mumbai Airport – The current title is an extremely long and and uncommon title violating WP:COMMONNAME, WP:CONCISION and WP:NATURALNESS. Wikipedia requires that the official name should not be used unless it fulfills the criterion at WP:Article titles. If we were to see the usage in news media, "Chhatrapati Shivaji Maharaj International Airport" gives only 300 hits, "Chhatrapati Shivaji International Airport" also gives only 300 hits, while "Mumbai International Airport" gives 10,100 hits and "Mumbai Airport" gives 21,100 hits which is way more than the current name and easily makes it the common name of the subject. Besides the current name doesn't even show up in ngrams because of its extremely low usage in published sources. "Mumbai Airport" is much more natural and recognisable, and readers are much more likely to search for it. Mumbai International Airport is good enough too. PadFoot (talk) 10:26, 13 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Israel–Hamas war → Israel–Gaza war – Despite the move request to Israel-Gaza war being closed as no consensus in February 2024, a lot has changed since then and RS have converged to use this name. This move is long overdue and aligns with the relevant Wikipedia guidelines of WP:COMMONNAME and WP:NAMECHANGE. RS per WP that uses the Israel-Gaza war name as the title of their coverage category: * The Guardian:
Israel-Gaza war
* The Washington Post:Israel-Gaza war
* BBC:Israel-Gaza war
* NPR:Israel-Gaza war
* The Conservation:Israel-Gaza war
* Al Jazeera:Israel's war on Gaza
Other RS that uses the Israel-Gaza war name as the title of their coverage category: * Doctors Without Borders:Israel-Gaza war
* Committee to Protect Journalists:Israel-Gaza conflict
* The National:Israel-Gaza war
* Middle East Eye:Israel's war on Gaza
RS per WP that uses the Israel-Gaza war in their coverage: * Reuters: [29], [30], [31]:Israel-Gaza war
* CBS news: [32]Israel-Gaza war
* Vox: [33], [34]:Israel's war in Gaza
This name change would also align with a third Wikipedia guideline, all five of the WP:CRITERIA one, namely #5 on Consistency, as this would align with Gaza War (2008–2009) and 2014 Gaza war. Makeandtoss (talk) 10:05, 13 August 2024 (UTC)
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edit- (Discuss) – 2MASS J10475385+2124234 → 2MASS J1047+21 – Make shorter (WP:PRECISE, WP:CONCISE). A number of digits far higher than necessary. New title is more natural, more recognizable, less precise, but much more concise. Almost perfectly meeting WP:CRITERIA. 21 Andromedae (talk) 19:26, 5 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Waqar💬 08:47, 13 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Vladimir Putin's December 2021 ultimatum → 2021 Russian ultimatum – The title shouldn't have Putin's name in it, no more than Soviet ultimatum to Lithuania should be "Joseph Stalin's ultimatum" or 1939 German ultimatum to Poland should be "Adolf Hitler's ultimatum". These proposals were advanced on behalf of Russia, not Putin as an individual. "December" is not necessary since no other major ultimata were issued by Russia in 2021. As for possible suffixes, "to the West" is too informal, "to the United States and NATO" is too wordy, and "on Ukraine" is perhaps too presumptuous, despite the troop situation and the singling out of Ukraine in the draft treaties. — Goszei (talk) 08:26, 13 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – William A. Sickner → William Sickner – In a handful of film credits, subject was indeed billed as "William A.", but in the great majority of those, his billing was simply "William", as confirmed by his entry in The American Film Institute Catalog. Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 08:07, 13 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Palestinian territories → Occupied Palestinian Territory – This terminology has become standard across all official sources, the United Nations, itself and in its resolutions, and at the International Court of Justice (ICJ), in 2004 and reaffirmed in 2024, the EU and in many secondary sources. The ICJ concluded that the West Bank and Gaza are a single territorial unit: However, the Court recalls that, from a legal standpoint, the Occupied Palestinian Territory constitutes a single territorial unit, the unity, contiguity and integrity of which is to be preserved and respected. Thus, all references in this Opinion to the Occupied Palestinian Territory are references to this single territorial unit. Although still used in sources, and should remain as an aka, the existing title is currently an anachronism. Note that the OPT is also equivalent geographically to the area claimed by the State of Palestine. Selfstudier (talk) 10:17, 5 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Frost 16:15, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Wyatt (disambiguation) → Wyatt – This is a misplaced disambiguation page. In 2016 the page "Wyatt" was split into a surname and a given name page, and moved to Wyatt (surname) with comment "Split given name and surname, and seems more appropriate to call this page 'surname' now", leaving "Wyatt" as a redirect to it, and leaving this long-established dab page at its disambiguated title. There are enough placenames and other uses that there seems no obvious primary topic, so this dab page should be at the base title. PamD 09:28, 5 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Waqar💬 14:51, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Template:Wikipedia Unreferenced articles improved → Template:WikiProject Unreferenced articles – Per consensus @ Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Unreferenced articles#Template:Wikipedia Unreferenced articles improved. @Gonnym and Randy Kryn: pinging previous RM participants. ~ Tom.Reding (talk ⋅dgaf) 13:34, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Special interest (autism) → Special interest – The autistic topic is the primary one over the special interest group. It does not make sense to make special interest redirect there. PhotographyEdits (talk) 13:02, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Mischievous Twins: The Tales of St. Clare's → The Twins at St. Clare's (anime) – English title, per TMS' global website. VenezuelanSpongeBobFan2004 (talk) 00:00, 5 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Waqar💬 09:08, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
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edit- (Discuss) – Ahmadnagar Sultanate → Ahmadnagar sultanate – Similar to the recent downcasing move of Berar sultanate, these sultanates are very often referred to with lowercase "sultanate" in sources. Dicklyon (talk) 01:39, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Al-Tabaeen school attack → Al-Tabaeen school massacre – The flowchart on WP:DEATHS makes it clear that as the people are dead -> because of homicide -> not capital punishment -> nobody is convicted, we could go with "Al-Tabaeen school killings", but given the number of people who were killed, I believe massacre is, sadly, appropriate. Foreign ministries across the Arab world have also considered it a massacre, and we refer to other such tragic events - of varying scales - as a massacre (i.e. Bucha massacre, Hoddle Street massacre, Samashki massacre, etc.), so I believe this change is appropriate considering the scale of the incident and the number of dead and wounded as reported by RS within the article. Smallangryplanet (talk) 17:57, 10 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Olympic Pool, Montreal → Olympic Pool (Montreal) – Parentheses are used for North American places. 162 etc. (talk) 18:38, 29 July 2024 (UTC) This is a contested technical request (permalink). 162 etc. (talk) 21:39, 2 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Waqar💬 14:40, 10 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Collingwood Blues (2020–) → Collingwood Blues – The qualifying bookend "(2020–)" is unnecessary. The article relates to an existing ice hockey team. Collingwood Blues (1988–2011) is for the defunct team with the same name. The target page is currently a redirect. Buffalkill (talk) 01:22, 29 July 2024 (UTC) This is a contested technical request (permalink). – robertsky (talk) 02:55, 2 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Waqar💬 14:39, 10 August 2024 (UTC)
- Collingwood Blues → Collingwood Blues (disambiguation) over redirect without leaving a redirect (implied), then WP:G14 delete if unnecessary
- (Discuss) – Wikipedia:WikiProject College Basketball → Wikipedia:WikiProject College basketball – There is a mismatch in capitalizing between the project name and the project category system. This seems to be the better fix. Gonnym (talk) 12:58, 10 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Qixi Festival → Double Seventh Festival – : 1. "Double Seventh Festival" would be consistent with the titles of pages on other Chinese festivals, such as Double Ninth Festival and Double Third Festival. : 2. "Double Seventh Festival" is culturally neutral. This festival is not specifically "Chinese", it is a general East Asian festival (see Tanabata and Chilseok). Additionally, the cultures do not coincide with modern nation-states, "Chinese culture" is not a single culture, and it should not be equated with the Northern Chinese (Mandarin-speaking) culture. : Of course, there are local traditions and regional differences, but the way it is celebrated among the Hokkien or Cantonese people is arguably as different from the traditions of Northern China as are Japanese and Korean ways of its celebration. Yet we don't have to split the topic even more into a Northern Chinese Qi Xi festival, Cantonese Tsat Tse Festival, Hokkien Chit Niu Ma Festival, etc. The "Double Seventh Festival" would be appropriate to cover all of the regional versions of this festival. While we are at it, Zhinü should also be moved to Weaver Girl, and Niulang to Cowherd (Chinese mythology). These characters (especially the weaver girl) also have different names even in Chinese characters, compare 織女 (Mandarin Zhīnǚ and Korean Jiknyeo), 七娘媽 (Hokkien Chhit-niû-má), 織姫 (Japanese Orihime), 七姐 (Cantonese Cat1 ze2). Currently, Orihime and Hikoboshi refer to those articles, and there are no articles on Jiknyeo and Gyeonwu. That would also be consistent with the article The Cowherd and the Weaver Girl, which uses translated English names. QuestionableAnswers (talk) 11:17, 10 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – August 2024 Kursk Oblast incursion → August 2024 Western Russia incursions – accurate description Waleed (talk) 09:44, 10 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Samastha Kerala Jem-iyyathul Ulama (AP Sunnis) → Samastha (AP Faction) – no WP:PRIMARYTOPIC Spworld2 (talk) 04:49, 10 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – 2024 Russian prisoner exchange → August 2024 international prisoner exchange – WP:NPOV. Many seem to be unhappy with the current title. Compare:
Alternatives proposed by Gödel2200: August 2024 Russian prisoner exchange, 2024 Ankara prisoner exchange
— Urro[talk][edits] ⋮ 22:08, 9 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Trois-Rivières Aigles → Trois-Rivières Aigles (1971–1977) – Thinking on it, long-term significance leans towards the current team being the primary topic as it's been around longer and has had much more coverage than the defunct affiliated minor league team that only played for seven years some decades ago. The current team has already lasted nearly twice as long as the old team, and shows no signs of going away anytime soon, so in my mind it's proven itself to be the most likely intended subject for someone looking up the team name. oknazevad (talk) 21:10, 1 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. ASUKITE 21:29, 9 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Midland Mainline → Midland Mainline (train operating company) – The last time I requested this, I got the disambiguator tag wrong ('company' rather than 'train operating company'). Since its been a few months, and I am moving this to a different name this time, it should be acceptable (as in, not disruptive) to revisit it again. But anyway, similar to my previous rationale, the Midland Mainline TOC is long gone, and almost everyone searching for this is looking for the mainline, so I propose moving Midland Mainline to Midland Mainline (train operating company) then redirecting Midland Mainline to Midland Main Line. Even Google comes up with Midland Mainline first. I do get WP:SMALLDETAILS but I don't think it applies here since the primary topic is probably the mainline over the TOC. JuniperChill (talk) 19:26, 9 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Ascalon → Ashkelon (ancient city) – Recently, the name of this article was changed from Tel Ashkelon to Ascalon. The rationale was that Ashkelon and Tel Ashkelon are too similar, and that readers cannot be expected to differentiate. It was said that Ascalon is the name of the historical site. This rationale is invalid. The name Ashkelon, is the conventionally accepted name for both the modern city, and the ancient site. In many cases, the name Ashkelon is even used when referring to periods in which it was historically known as Ascalon. This place has at least 20,000 years of history, accros many periods of times. It was a prehistoric site, a Canaanite, Philistine, Hellenistic city, a Crusader city, an Islamic city... We don't always know its actual name, and it has never had a single way to pronounce its name. I am suggesting to change the name to Ashkelon (ancient city). I divided my argument into three parts: (1) Ashkelon and Ascalon are virtually the same and therefore confusing; (2) The toponym for the ancient site is known in maps and sites as "Ashkelon"; (3) the conentional scholarly name for the city in all periods is "Ashkelon", including periods in which it was called in different names. 1. Ascalon and Ashkelon are virtually the same. It is very confusing still. Differetiating them with "ancient city" in brackets makes no mistakes. Another option would've been "Tel Ashkelon", but there were times in which the ancient settlements in Ashkelon were not exactly on the Tel, and the city often controlled a much broader territory. Tel Ashkelon would strictly refer to the antiquties, but the article's scope goes beyond it. Another opition I thought about was "History of Ashkelon", simmilar to how we have "History of Athens", but I think that this might confuse the people who are looking for the history of modern Ashkelon, whose place should be in the article about the modern city. Therefore, I think that Ashkelon (ancient city) is the clearest option for the scope of the article. 2. Location identification: Today, the principal site of ancient Ashkelon is known as Tel Ashkelon. This is a declared national park in Israel, and it apears by that name. The official name of the park is "Ashkelon National Park". I think it makes a lot of sense to assume, that many people who visit Israel as tourist, will likely enter this Wikipedia article. They will not be referred to Ascalon, but to Ashkelon, either Tel Ashkelon (mentioned here, here, here and [35], which were the first results I was given by google. Therefore, the site, as a location, is better identified with Ashkelon rather than Ascalon Bolter21 (talk to me) 11:03, 20 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. ToadetteEdit (talk) 18:04, 9 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – RAI → Rai (Italian broadcasting company) – the common name is "Rai"; see the official site: https://www.rai.it/, the Treccani encyclopaedia: https://www.treccani.it/enciclopedia/rai-radiotelevisione-italiana/, and the it.wiki page: https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rai. JacktheBrown (talk) 22:01, 16 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. ToadetteEdit (talk) 18:00, 9 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – De La Salle Green Spikers volleyball → De La Salle Green Archers volleyball – The above existing pages have titles that do emulate the placement of a disambiguating sports descriptor after the team name, per WP:QUALIFIER. This style of adding descriptors has been prescribed by example by, among other similar college-sports WikiProjects, this page under WP:CBBALL and this page under WP:CFB for titles of pages about United States college teams. Clearly, these descriptors were prescribed in order to naturally disambiguate (by WP:NATURAL) a page about a team playing a certain sport from pages about namesake teams that are playing in other sports. In each of the team pages above being requested for moving, however, 1) the team name used is not that of its institution's team's uniform or collective name but the special nickname or unique moniker given to that specific team playing in its sport, so much so that the need for disambiguation disappears. 2) what is produced by the addition of a disambiguating sport descriptor after the team's special nickname is a redundancy. For example, there are no other De La Salle Green Spikers other than the De La Salle Green Archers team playing men's volleyball. For having a redundant title, the page's title then creates WP:OVERPRECISION and breaches the WP:CONCISE rule. That, however, can be salvaged by replacing the special moniker with the institution's team's uniform or collective name, a replacement which is what would have the need for disambiguation and erase the redundancy. Bagoto (talk) 09:04, 25 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 18:46, 4 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. ToadetteEdit (talk) 17:48, 9 August 2024 (UTC)
- De La Salle Lady Spikers volleyball → De La Salle Lady Archers volleyball
- De La Salle Lady Booters football → De La Salle Lady Archers football
- UST Golden Spikers volleyball → UST Growling Tigers volleyball
- UST Golden Tigresses volleyball → UST Tigresses volleyball
- UST Lady Booters football → UST Tigresses football
- (Discuss) – Nacho (disambiguation) → Nacho – no WP:PRIMARYTOPIC for "Nacho" per page views at [36] Joeykai (talk) 07:08, 1 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. ASUKITE 14:42, 9 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Piecewise → Piecewise mathematical object – Per WP:NOUN. The adjective title is jarring. Previous discussion is at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Mathematics/Archive/2024/Mar#Piecewise. Mathematical object should include everything, addressing concerns about the concept needing to cover piecewise linear manifold and piecewise linear curve 174.92.25.207 (talk) 14:56, 20 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. ASUKITE 20:12, 31 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Polyamorph (talk) 09:57, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Northern League (ice hockey, 2005–) → Northern League (ice hockey, 2005–present) – The current date range format for the first three of these hockey leagues doesn't seem to follow the usual Wikipedia convention. I found only 27 titles like this on the English Wikipedia. As for the fourth one, I found no indication that the older New Brunswick Junior Hockey League is a primary topic over the newer one, so I suggest disambiguation. Pageviews here. If we need to pick one of the two as primary, I suggest picking the new one. Some people looking for the new one are almost certainly landing on the article about the older one by accident. There is no hatnote to indicate that a reader might have found the wrong article. There is also a New Brunswick Junior C Hockey League article. Also, is it necessary to use "ice hockey" for the Northern League rather than just "hockey"? — BarrelProof (talk) 21:58, 30 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Waqar💬 08:02, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Twitter under Elon Musk → X (social network) – See Talk:Twitter#Requested move 17 May 2024 elijahpepe@wikipedia (he/him) 19:25, 24 May 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 09:17, 17 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BD2412 T 18:39, 7 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Gurjara-Pratihara dynasty → Pratihara dynasty – "Pratihara dynasty" seems to be the WP:COMMONNAME as shown by this graph. This compare the usages of both "Gurjara-Pratihara" + "Gurjara-Pratiharas" to "Pratihara" + "Pratiharas" after excluding the usages of "Gurjara-Pratihara" + "Gurjara-Pratiharas" from the graph of "Pratiharas". This graph clearly shows the prevalence of simply "Pratihara(s)" over "Gurjara-Pratihara(s)" by a very large margin, i.e, more than 4 times. In my course of editing for Wikipedia, I've seen that scholars usually use simply "Pratihara" more than "Gurajara-Pratihara". It also seems like this would be a more WP:neutral point of view name. PadFoot (talk) 18:30, 7 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – World Rowing Federation → World Rowing – I believe the COMMONNAME is World Rowing, which is what they consistently use fro themselves. There are examples out there of using World Rowing Federation but I think they're rare. World Rowing is also more CONCISE. For what it's worth, World Rowing Federation is not the official name. According to their Bylaws, the official name is still FISA, but "World Rowing is the designation used operationally by FISA." In searching for references online it's tricky to separate references to World Rowing from the World Rowing Championships, but here are some recent examples: [37] [38] [39] JFHutson (talk) 16:49, 30 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. ASUKITE 17:29, 7 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Al-Shabaab (Mozambique) → Islamic State – Mozambique Province – I see more results for “Islamic State – Mozambique Province” rather than “Ansar al Sunna/Al Shabaab”. ISIL propaganda also uses the name “Wilayat Muzambiq” (Mozambique Province) when referring to this group’s activities and operations. TheLibyanGuy (talk) 22:37, 25 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Waqar💬 16:52, 7 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Lille OSC → LOSC Lille – The current title is wrong in both WP:COMMONNAME and WP:OFFICIALNAME. Firstly, the club's official name is not "Lille Olympique Sporting Club"-- that's what it used to be. Today, the club's entire official name is "LOSC Lille". "Lille OSC", the current title, is used by nobody both in common and official usage. In media, the club is often referred to as "Lille", "LOSC", and often times as "LOSC Lille". We could move the title to just "LOSC", but since the English-language "short" name for usage in articles is just "Lille", this wouldn't really work smoothly. I say we should go by the club's actual name in this specific case, which is also really commonly used in sources, only third to Lille and LOSC (which I don't believe are valid titles.) Paul Vaurie (talk) 14:29, 7 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – 2024 South Korean doctors' strike → 2024 South Korean medical crisis – (1) "Crisis" is much used in both mass media[40][41] and academic sources.[42][43] (2) Precision: This involves not only trainee doctors, but also great number of med students.[44][45] The name "doctors' stirke" cannot include this activity of med students, becuase med students are not "doctors". Y-S.Ko (talk) 21:19, 4 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – East Asian age reckoning → Age reckoning in the Sinosphere – Rationale explained here: Talk:Sinosphere#Pages using "East Asia" in place of the Sinosphere and in this longer post. Tl;dr, "East Asia" often excludes Vietnam, which is also a part of the Sinosphere. Related previous move discussions that passed: Seals in the Sinosphere and Sixtieth birthday in the Sinosphere. Open to more suggested titles. Alternates: # Sinosphere age reckoning #* I think a little confusing; may suggest trying to determine the age of the Sinosphere itself. # Traditional age reckoning in the Sinosphere #* This is more precise I feel; currently, as far as I'm aware, the entire Sinosphere no longer uses the age reckoning for major applications, mostly just ceremonial. "Age reckoning in x" can be interpreted as a present and not mostly past practice 104.232.119.107 (talk) 10:35, 21 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 10:38, 28 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Queen of Hearts talk 14:34, 4 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Register (sociolinguistics) → Socio-linguistic register – Parenthetical disambiguation, as used today, is kind of a last resort. Sociolinguistic is a bit squished for new readers, so I prefer a hyphen for first use, including in the title and lead sentence. I want the title to be easily parsed by readers who have not heard the term "Sociolinguistic" before, or even the prefix "Socio-". Simply Linguistic does not disambiguate enough: see Register (disambiguation)#Linguistics. Register as a base name does not meet my understanding of WP:COMMONNAME; I understand it as requiring the low-context variant (i.e. not the term used in the middle sections of papers in the field). As long as the full term is used in the titles of some papers in the field, I believe the full term should be considered to meet WP:COMMONNAME. And, well... this full name is used in the bodies of some papers, at least. And "linguistic register" is used in plenty of paper titles, but we've ruled that out for other reasons. My understanding of WP:COMMONNAME seems to be borne out by success in move discussions I started: from "Inflation (cosmology)" to "Cosmic inflation"; from "Transformation (genetics)" to "Genetic transformation". But I think it's time for me to start a discussion on the MOS talk page itself about this "low context vs high context" thing, since it may exist only in my mind at the moment, or as a non-obvious implication of other core CRITERIA for article titles. All that said, I believe Socio-linguistic register is the best title for this article. The hyphen or entire prefix can and should be dropped for most subsequent uses within the article. Jruderman (talk) 04:48, 4 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Edmundo González Urrutia → Edmundo González – Most sources refer to the subject as Edmundo González instead of his full name. Even Spanish Wikipedia refers to him as Edmundo González. Zinderboff(talk) 16:54, 3 August 2024 (UTC)
- Edmundo González → Edmundo González (disambiguation) over redirect without leaving a redirect (implied), then WP:G14 delete if unnecessary
- (Discuss) – Haileybury and Imperial Service College → Haileybury (Hertfordshire) – The school's official name is Haileybury College altho it is commonly known as just Haileybury. Haileybury and Imperial Service College is a previous name no longer used Southdevonian (talk) 18:17, 22 July 2024 (UTC) This is a contested technical request (permalink). Southdevonian (talk) 11:26, 23 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. ASUKITE 15:39, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – 2024 Haret Hreik airstrike → 30 July 2024 Beirut attack – a better name would be 30 July 2024 Beirut attack because we only know there is an attack on Beirut, maybe the person isn't dead. Kavas (talk) 18:03, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Anti-Black sentiment → Anti-Black racism – Sentiment against a 'race' is racism. Alexanderkowal (talk) 21:30, 22 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 21:57, 29 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 18:30, 9 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 23:19, 18 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. 173.72.3.91 (talk) 13:48, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Privately made firearm → Ghost gun – WP:COMMONNAME, see above. WestRiding24 (talk) 08:29, 21 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 01:34, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Palestinian genocide accusation → Palestinian genocide – Given the movement of Gaza genocide to that title, the current title here has become incongruously inconsistent. How can the parent of a child topic that is not couched in the language of "accusation" be couched in that language? It should be obvious than it should not. More generally, it has become apparent that the language of "accusation" is generally inappropriate. This is not only per MOS:ACCUSED (which outlines how the language of accusation is problematic in its presumptive deployment of doubt (presumably ultimately as a corollary of WP:NPOV)), but also per consistency with similar titles on similar subjects. There are many pages on the topics of presumed or suspected (but not legally ruled on) genocides -- this is in fact the majority of them -- but no other genocide topic on Wikipedia, regardless of how speculative it is, is couched as a "genocide accusation". See the search results. Likewise, the phrase "Palestinian genocide accusation" is all but unknown to scholarship, in stark contrast to "Palestinian genocide", which is a common and widely used phrase, including in titular form, such as in the 2013 The Palestinian Genocide by Israel by the eminent Francis Boyle. In the previous move discussion, I somewhat rallied support around the current title, but that was in October last year, before much of the subsequent discussion around developments in Gaza. It seemed sensible at the time, but that was then, and this is now. Events have moved on significantly since then, not least with the ICJ case and provisional measures -- and hence the Gaza genocide move. As this page covers the overarching legal and scholarly topic of Palestinian genocide, the weight of both everything that went into the Gaza genocide RM discussion, and everything that precedes it in Palestinian history, including the Nakba and all subsequent Israeli policies and actions that have been discussed as conceivably genocidal by legal and academic experts, is under consideration. Given that this page has a significantly grander scope than its child, its title cannot reasonably contain greater doubt than that of its child. Iskandar323 (talk) 12:29, 21 July 2024 (UTC)— Relisting. Jerium (talk) 15:16, 28 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Tales of the Jedi (TV series) → Star Wars: Tales – Since this move made nearly three months ago has been objected to, here is an RM. I personally don't agree with the need as consensus was reached on the matter. Never the less, this anthology series had its first installment released as (formally) Star Wars: Tales of the Jedi (commonly Tales of the Jedi) in October 2022, with it announced in April 2023 that it would get a second season (wording used by media outlets, though the quote from Filoni was "Tales of the Jedi was so fun the first time, I decided to do some more.") Subsequently, it was announced a year later in April 2024 that this second "season" was a new "installment", Star Wars: Tales of the Empire (commonly Tales of the Empire). This press release shows the use of both formal names as well as the key quote in my view (and the determination of the previous consensus) that Tales of the Empire was
the second installment of the "Tales" series
. Thus, an appropriate name to address this anthology series considering the formal name would be Star Wars: Tales, which provides a WP:NATURAL name. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 17:25, 2 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 17:46, 9 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 05:42, 21 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 10:39, 28 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Bolognese School → Bolognese school – Schools of art, schools of thought, etc., are usually rendered in sources with lowercase school. We should fix, consistent with WP:NCCAPS and MOS:CAPS. This is a logical extension of the consensus at Talk:Cretan School#Requested move 25 April 2024, but I thought I'd do another discussion just in case. And for the Cuzco school, restore the common spelling. (These are all found at Template:Western art movements, and there may be others there that I've missed.) Dicklyon (talk) 02:38, 26 July 2024 (UTC)
- Lucchese School → Lucchese school
- Delft School (painting) → Delft school (painting)
- Norwich School of painters → Norwich school of painters
- Boston School (painting) → Boston school (painting)
- Volcano School → Volcano school
- Pont-Aven School → Pont-Aven school
- Cusco School → Cuzco school
- Quito School → Quito school
- Sienese School → Sienese school
- Cologne School of Painting → Cologne school of painting
- Hudson River School → Hudson River school
- Cologne School → Cologne school
- Cologne School (music) → Cologne school (music)
- (Discuss) – All-purpose Lightweight Individual Carrying Equipment → All-purpose lightweight individual carrying equipment – These military equipment designators are often capped in official lists, but also often lowercase in sentences in both official and "independent" publications, so per MOS:CAPS and WP:NCCAPS we should default to lowercase, in titles and in article text (except Interceptor should be capped even mid-sentence, as that's the proper name of the armor system, not a descriptive term). I had moved them already, thinking they'd be uncontroversial in light of a bunch of previous military equipment designation RMs, but these were objected to and reverted, so let's discuss. Dicklyon (talk) 22:01, 24 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Te Whatu Ora → Health New Zealand - Te Whatu Ora – Per WP:OFFICIALNAMES, WP:COMMONNAME Lluq (talk) 00:57, 24 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – House demolition → House demolition (military) – The primary topic for demolishing houses would be demolition. The military use of house demolition is not the obvious primary topic and should be disambiguated. I would also not be opposed to (militiary tactic), but it doesn't seem like other articles use it. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 11:16, 13 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 05:28, 21 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Arab citizens of Israel → Palestinian and Arab citizens of Israel – Per the smart suggestion from Keizers in the discussion above, this middle ground should address the concerns of both sides. Many editors have put a lot of time into this debate over many years, so we would ask you not to vote until you have reviewed the following discussions: * Talk:Arab citizens of Israel/Archive 8#Requested move 27 October 2021 * Talk:Palestinian citizens of Israel#Requested move 26 November 2021 * Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Palestinian citizens of Israel (6 March 2024, proposed by Keizers) * Talk:Arab citizens of Israel#Requested move 21 March 2024 Onceinawhile (talk) 14:28, 16 April 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. NightWolf1223 <Howl at me•My hunts> 20:25, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – 2023 Hamas-led attack on Israel → 7 October Hamas-led attack on Israel – I believe that enough time has passed since the last RM (which proposed the simpler "7 October attacks" name and closed with consensus to retain the current title) to re-propose a title change for this article. I believe that "7 October Hamas-led attack on Israel" is the WP:COMMONNAME for this event, as seen in sources such as: * Al Jazeera: "... counter the October 7 Hamas-led attack on Israel, which saw ..." * Bloomberg: "... trapped in Gaza since the Oct. 7 Hamas-led attack on Israel, which prompted ..." * CBC: "... around the world since the Hamas-led attacks on Israel of Oct. 7 but are now ..." * CNN: "... from the October 7 Hamas-led attack on Israel being held ..." * Euracitiv: "... triggered by the 7 October Hamas-led attack on Israel in which ..." * France24: "Before the October 7 Hamas-led attack on Israel that triggered ..." * ISW: "... spokesperson claimed that the October 7 Hamas-led attack on Israel was retaliation ..." * Middle East Eye: "Following the 7 October Hamas-led attack on Israel and subsequent ..." * NPR: "... Palestinian armed groups since the Oct. 7 Hamas-led attack on Israel that set off the war ..." * NYTimes: "... including some who participated in the Oct. 7 Hamas-led attack on Israel, and that ..." * Reuters: "... were involved in the Oct. 7 Hamas-led attack on Israel that precipitated ..." * Times of Israel: "... during and after the October 7 Hamas-led attack on Israel." * The Conversation: "... participated in the October 7 Hamas-led attack on Israel, which resulted ... " * WaPo: "Since the Oct. 7 Hamas-led attack on Israel, restrictions have ..." Many sources simply say "7 October" or "October 7 attacks" instead of spelling out the full name, but I believe that while "7 October attacks" could be a more COMMON name, I think that it fails WP:AT#Precision in favor of "7 October Hamas-led attack on Israel." DecafPotato (talk) 00:43, 15 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. — Amakuru (talk) 14:09, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Doctor Who season 1 → Doctor Who season 1 (1963–1964) – I think there is a consensus for another requested move and for these move to be part of it, so I am starting another formal requested move. Cal3000000 (talk) 07:26, 2 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 09:23, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – List of Mario franchise characters → List of Mario characters – More concise title, WP:CONSISTENT with other video game franchise characters lists: *List of Donkey Kong characters *List of The Legend of Zelda characters *List of Star Fox characters etc. Mia Mahey (talk) 17:20, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
Possibly incomplete requests
edit- Talk:Mex – Mex is requested for move to Mex (disambiguation), which could make the disambiguation malplaced. Has a primary redirect been specified?
- Talk:Heimlich – Heimlich is requested for move to Heimlich (disambiguation), which could make the disambiguation malplaced. Has a primary redirect been specified?