Talk:Twitter under Elon Musk

And then what?

I have noticed a lot of dangling threads in this article, which I'm going to go through and tag. Most of these take the form of, e.g. On March 23 at 13:24 UTC, Musk said that he was going to 'ban the hell out of that guy' or something along those lines, and then... nothing. Did he do it? Was the guy banned at all? Is he still banned? What does the guy think about this? We should be able to provide information like that. jp×g🗯️ 23:56, 9 November 2023 (UTC)

Man, there are a lot of these. Some of this stuff seems like it does pass the test of time, but some of it really does not. Like this: By December 17, Twitter was blocking some links to Mastodon as being "potentially harmful" or "malware".. What... happened? Was anyone banned for this? Did anything happen? Did it get enforced and then lifted? If it's not still the case, when was the policy lifted? If we can't find anything along those lines in news coverage, we should probably treat it as a one-off event (e.g. "on December 17, it was reported that links to blah blah blah were being blocked due to whatever"), rather than phrase it like this is a continuing thing. jp×g🗯️ 00:23, 10 November 2023 (UTC)

As an update, I've started to go through these "needs update" tags, resolving the issues you are correctly raising. I'm by no means done but dealt with about half of these so far. For reference, some were very useful, like after NPR ceased activity on Twitter, this did require an update to explain that 6 months later they still no longer use Twitter, and the negligible effects this has had. However, I did find some of tags inaccurate. For example many paragraphs in the state-affiliated media section had these tags, but the final sentence adequately summarised the end result; that Twitter stopped using these labels entirely, even if there was a little extra info that could be added for clarity. Some of these simply needed a WP:CLARIFY tag, rather than a needs update, in order to bring the information up to date, or a least a better reason for needing updating.

I've also tried to correct some the wording/phrasing if you also correctly pointed out, where there is no further information avoiding giving the impression that the event is ongoing or present as it were. CommunityNotesContributor (talk) 16:27, 1 December 2023 (UTC)

Pull quotes should be removed

We should not have all these pull quotes that highlight what Musk happened to say on Twitter. See WP:PQ. --ZimZalaBim ^talk 22:30, 20 November 2023 (UTC)

Firstly, this has nothing to do with Wikiproject Quebec, but I assume you mean MOS:PQ.

Secondly, they aren't what Musk "happened to say on Twitter", they were the official announcements of policy changes, referenced by numerous WP:RS as such. I therefore wouldn't describe them as out-of-context with undue emphasis, but instead the opposite. As a reminder for context sake, Musk exclusively made "official announcements" via his personal Twitter account in almost 100% of cases, nor via press releases.

The one exception is the "account doxxing" statement, which while it wasn't the official brief announcement from Twitter Safety without much explanation, it was the justification behind the policy change, again referenced by multiple WP:RS. So overall I not only find your brief assessment inaccurate, but also somewhat insulting to think that I merely added "random" statements from Twitter into subject sections.

As for those in Reactions and commentary, these weren't just the "loudest voices", these reactions as commentary were also the most widely referenced (and discussed) by reliable sources, and therefore I wouldn't say out-of-context or with undue emphasis by any means, given that a lot of the commentary came from media and other institutions, that can hardly be described as very notable with single sources.

In any other context of using cite tweet in articles whereby the tweet isn't directly attributed to the section subject, as the original source of said subject, I'd 100% agree it'd be undue emphasis, as well as out-of-context. Of course if others disagree with this reasoning and think there should be less or none then feel free to remove. CommunityNotesContributor (talk) 11:08, 22 November 2023 (UTC)

Restructure of sections proposal

Proposing a change to the structure of 2nd headed sections to include "Policy changes". I still feel this page is a bit of a "mess" when it comes to structure, as not every 3rd headed section falls into the sub-section of "Content moderation" or "Other developments", and I wouldn't describe "Policy changes" as content moderation either. I already made a few moves, but thought I'd check with others on a bolder re-arrange.

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Corporate management

   Layoffs and mass resignations
   Resignation poll
   Corporate value

Content moderation

   Initial reforms
   Misinformation and disinformation
   Increase in hate speech
   Pentagon leaks
   Child sexual abuse

Policy changes

   Account suspensions
       ElonJet and journalists suspended
   State-affiliated media labeling
   Tweet views and messaging limits
   Announced removal of user blocking
   API changes

Developments

   Verification program
   Revamp and rebrand
   Engagement with Musk's tweets
   Delaying links to external websites
   User engagement

Antisemitism controversies

   Toggle Antisemitism controversies subsection
   Leo Frank disinformation
   Anti-ADL tweet campaign
   Musk amplification of antisemitism
   Media Matters analysis and lawsuit

Reactions and commentary

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This would also be changing "Other developments" simply to "Developments". I'm sure there are further improvements to the structure of the page, so any feedback/proposals is appreciated. I'm aware there are other improvements/updates necessary for this page, especially if it is to be moved to X (social media), but I also think a better structure overall would help with that. CommunityNotesContributor (talk) 10:02, 23 November 2023 (UTC)

Move to X (social network)

Twitter under Elon Musk's management is now known as X, it would make sense for the article about the recent history of Twitter to use this name. Flameoguy (talk) 16:14, 25 November 2023 (UTC)

Yes this has been proposed already: Talk:Twitter_under_Elon_Musk#Proposed_split_of_Twitter over the main talk page Talk:Twitter#Survey CommunityNotesContributor (talk) 16:34, 25 November 2023 (UTC)