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Google results

When do/how do the pages I've created get published to Wikipedia? (When will they return as a result in google, etc.?) Tmahendrarajah12 (talk) 04:55, 4 December 2016 (UTC)

@Tmahendrarajah12: Your pages are already published on Wikipedia. Google and other search engines update their database periodically, so it may take some time for these pages to appear on search engines. utcursch | talk 05:21, 4 December 2016 (UTC)

Saw an article you tagged...

...and have a question. In Shree Ram Lamichhane, is the Shree just an honorific that does not belong in the title? I created it based on the material I found, which tends to be honorific-heavier than Wikipedia.--Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 08:10, 7 December 2016 (UTC)

@Kintetsubuffalo: Shree here seems to be a part of the name, as several sources mention him as "Mr. Shree Ram Lamichhane" ("Mr." is the English equivalent of "Shree", when the latter is not part of the name). utcursch | talk 12:16, 7 December 2016 (UTC)

Thanks!--Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 12:18, 7 December 2016 (UTC)

• What about Lalit Mohan Jain?--Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 13:26, 7 December 2016 (UTC)

That's the full name of the person. No honorifics here. utcursch | talk 23:16, 7 December 2016 (UTC)

The India Star

		The India Star
		Utcursch, I award you The India Star for all your hard work in WikiProject India-related articles (Villages in Madhya Pradesh) FITINDIA (talk) 06:36, 9 December 2016 (UTC)

Map accuracy

Hello Utcursch. Regarding your comment about map accuracy [1]... I have checked and came back with the following:

According to the "History of the Indo-Greeks" article (English Wikipedia), this is another Sindhu river, the Sindh River indeed located in central India and an affluent of the Chambal River. Here's the paragraph from the article where it is explained with references:

"Accounts of battles between the Greeks and the Shunga in Central India are also found in the Mālavikāgnimitram, a play by Kālidāsa which describes an encounter between Greek forces and Vasumitra, the grandson of Pushyamitra, during the latter's reign.("Indo-Greek, Indo-Scythian and Indo-Parthian coins in the Smithsonian institution", Bopearachchi, p16. Also: "Kalidasa recounts in his Mālavikāgnimitra (5.15.14–24) that Puspamitra appointed his grandson Vasumitra to guard his sacrificial horse, which wandered on the right bank of the Sindhu river and was seized by Yavana cavalrymen- the later being thereafter defeated by Vasumitra. The "Sindhu" referred to in this context may refer the river Indus: but such an extension of Shunga power seems unlikely, and it is more probable that it denotes one of two rivers in central India -either the Sindhu river which is a tributary of the Yamuna, or the Kali-Sindhu river which is a tributary of the Chambal." The Yuga Purana, Mitchener, 2002.)"

If you're OK with this, I'll let you remove the tag from the map. Thank you! Tahar Jelun (talk) 16:36, 13 December 2016 (UTC)

@Tahar Jelun: Thanks for the explanation. I've removed the tag. utcursch | talk 17:02, 13 December 2016 (UTC)

DYK for Parshvanatha temple, Khajuraho

On 14 December 2016, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Parshvanatha temple, Khajuraho, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that an inscription at the circa 10th-century Parshvanatha temple features one of the oldest known 4×4 magic squares (pictured)? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Parshvanatha temple, Khajuraho. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Parshvanatha temple, Khajuraho), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

— Maile (talk) 00:01, 14 December 2016 (UTC)

Please Help

Hello Dear Sir Are you know Hindi language ?Raju Suthar 17:36, 14 December 2016 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by राजु सुथार (talk • contribs)

@राजु सुथार: Yes, I know Hindi. utcursch | talk 17:43, 14 December 2016 (UTC)

नमस्ते जी मैं हिन्दी विकिपीडिया पर काफी सक्रिय हूँ , जी आपने Kuldhara लेख बनाया है वहां पर आप खुद गए थे क्या ? आप अंग्रेज़ी में जवाब दे सकते है लेकिन मैं शुद्ध अंग्रेज़ी नहीं जानता हूँ इस कारण ।Raju Suthar 17:47, 14 December 2016 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by राजु सुथार (talk • contribs)

@राजु सुथार: जी नहीं, मैं वहाँ आज तक नहीं गया। utcursch | talk 19:36, 14 December 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for the thanks!

I was having a bad day, and it truly made me smile. —Geekdiva (talk) 22:58, 14 December 2016 (UTC)

Glad to know that, and thanks for all your contributions! utcursch | talk 23:27, 14 December 2016 (UTC)

Jessica Eye

Hi. I noticed that you protected the Miesha Tate article and I wanted to bring the Jessica Eye article to your attention as well. It's become the target of a vandal who continually deletes info based on personal opinion, not policy. This person is using mutiple IPs. I will try reporting it formally. -- James26 (talk) 12:27, 18 December 2016 (UTC)

Looks like it has already been protected. utcursch | talk 14:58, 18 December 2016 (UTC)

Umm...

Is there a particular reason for this revert that I'm not seeing? TimothyJosephWood 20:57, 19 December 2016 (UTC)

@Timothyjosephwood: Sorry, it was a bad click on watchlist. Undid myself. utcursch | talk 20:59, 19 December 2016 (UTC)

yep you don't know what your doung Utkursch — Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.102.106.134 (talk) 13:06, 24 December 2016 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for the Harry James 1948-49 album page review! Bubbatex (talk) 05:48, 21 December 2016 (UTC)

Whats your problem?

I read tons and tons of wikipedia pages with no sources. For some things common sense is enough and a source is not needed. For example, your page says your from India. So you must look Indian from Indian parents. If I ask you for a source to prove this, can you provide one? Yes, but you don't need to cause its common sense. Same way you keep reverting certain additions or edits I make and leaveva note asking for sources. Some of those sections which I added info to have been there for years but you removed the entire section after I added something. Why? Everyone knows wikipedia editors are frustrated people but you should appreciate content other people add. Hope you can stop being a nuisance. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.102.106.134 (talk) 13:04, 24 December 2016 (UTC)

See WP:BURDEN and WP:OTHERCRAPEXISTS. utcursch | talk 01:47, 27 December 2016 (UTC)

What ia your problem. Why you are wanted to delete my page . The page is based on truth . Never delete my page . Rasheed Barsar (talk) 11:06, 13 January 2017 (UTC)

Address Collection - 1st reminder

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Happy New Year, Utcursch!

Happy New Year!

Utcursch,
Have a prosperous, productive and enjoyable New Year, and thanks for your contributions to Wikipedia.
Donner60 (talk) 04:23, 2 January 2017 (UTC)

   Send New Year cheer by adding {{subst:Happy New Year fireworks}} to user talk pages.

@Donner60: Happy new year to you too! utcursch | talk 19:05, 2 January 2017 (UTC)

Kashi Vishwanath Page

Faiyazshaikh123 (talk) 16:11, 5 January 2017 (UTC) what was the change that was made to the Kashi Vishwanath Page, please advise.

@Faiyazshaikh123: In this edit, you changed "mythology" to "history". Legends about Shiva, Parvati, Vishnu etc. are not history. If you believe otherwise, please provide a reliable source. utcursch | talk 16:13, 5 January 2017 (UTC)

well it is History, why don't you have common rules for all sects for eg Islam mythology, Christian Mythology, Buddhist mythology. Why does it happen with only Hinduism. Also please tell me what kind of proof would suffice. For eg. Do you know to read sanskrit? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Faiyazshaikh123 (talk • contribs) 16:16, 5 January 2017 (UTC)

@Faiyazshaikh123: There is Christian mythology, Islamic mythology etc. As stated earlier, please have a look at WP:RS to see what kind of sources are acceptable. If you have any doubts, you can start a new discussion at WP:RSN. I'd recommend going through Wikipedia tutorial, if you haven't already. utcursch | talk 16:20, 5 January 2017 (UTC)

in that case is the bible part of christian mythology and the quran part of islamic mythology. honest question coz you're the first person i've come across who accepts christian mythology and islamic mythology. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Faiyazshaikh123 (talk • contribs) 14:30, 7 January 2017 (UTC)

Parts of those books are mythology, yes. But this is not a place for such debates. See WP:NOT#FORUM. utcursch | talk 20:30, 7 January 2017 (UTC)

what parts are mythology? secondly, how can you call entire Hinduism as mythology in the same breath where you call "parts of christianity / islam" mythology? whats your source? Hinduism is not an intellectual or a mythological concept. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Faiyazshaikh123 (talk • contribs) 17:44, 17 May 2017 (UTC)

@Faiyazshaikh123: See WP:NOT#FORUM. If you have any problems with article content, please discuss them on the article's talk page. utcursch | talk 17:52, 17 May 2017 (UTC)

i am discussing the article and a specific point in the article, but you don't seem to have the capacity to stick to the point neither have the basic courtesy to answer the question. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Faiyazshaikh123 (talk • contribs) 02:55, 18 May 2017 (UTC)

1989 Bhagalpur riots

Dear brother Utkarsh....why r u deleting.my uploads to 1989 Bhagalpur riots...it is true...i live at sabor of bgp where it happened....the bunni mentioned in Wikipedia had breast cut due to cancer not due to riot...i can prove u...do I.... . she still has cancer threpy scars of masactomy ... Such a thing is a shame on Wikipedia....so I omitted it as has no relation with riot...and is not due to riot....she is my neighbour...i know better... so omit her name at least for sake of her dignity..she had grand sons and daughter

Ok...thanks for your share.... Pl

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Bantykumar12911 (talk • contribs)

I undid your edits because they included addition of unsourced content[2], removal of references[3] and vandalism[4]. Also, please have a look at WP:NOTCENSORED. I'd suggest going through WP:TUTORIAL, if you haven't already. utcursch | talk 20:30, 7 January 2017 (UTC)

Dear brother.....u should not mention name of any female really.....it is matters her respect.... So move that line please..... — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bantykumar12911 (talk • contribs) 16:15, 8 January 2017 (UTC)

DYK for Bisaldeo temple

On 11 January 2017, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Bisaldeo temple, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the courtyard of the Bisaldeo temple (pictured) is now partially submerged by the waters of the Bisalpur Dam reservoir? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Bisaldeo temple. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Bisaldeo temple), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 12:01, 11 January 2017 (UTC)

Article I created not appearing on Google.

Hello, I created the article Oinwar dynasty around a month ago and it has yet to appear on Google. I would really appreciate of you could look into it. Thanks. Damien2016 (talk) 14:49, 21 January 2017 (UTC)

It is an unreviewed article, so it's marked as noindex. I just reviewed it. utcursch | talk 16:32, 21 January 2017 (UTC)

Aha! That must be why an article I put up a couple of months ago still isn't popping up on Google! Robert H. McKercher I've been puzzled by that.Mr Serjeant Buzfuz (talk) 16:56, 21 January 2017 (UTC)

Sometimes, Google is just a little slow in updating its search index. The articles should pop up in the search results sooner or later. utcursch | talk 17:01, 21 January 2017 (UTC)

It's Solanki not Chalukya

Please mention the name of princely states ruled by Solanki and Vaghela(Baghela) and it was Solanki who ruled Gujarat , they originated from Chalukya and Vaghela were a sub clan of Solanki . I'm a Solanki my sub clan in Nathawat and Solanki ruled Toda Rai Singh in Tonk district Rajasthan and were having many fiefs in the Rajasthan state also . Please let me make some changes or if you have time then you can also make these changes but please don't edit or erase my edits , you can modify them and you can also give detail information on my edit if you wish Kunal Singh Solanki Nathawat (talk) 07:12, 25 January 2017 (UTC)

@Kunal Singh Solanki Nathawat: Please see WP:V. No one will undo your edits as long as you cite reliable source.

If you want to write about the Solanki dynasties of the princely states, please edit the respective articles such as Lunavada State. As noted in Chaulukya dynasty#Origins, the dynasty of Mularaja never used the term "Solanki" to describe itself; it used the self-designation "Chaulukya" or its variants. Extensive information about the dynasties of Todaraisingh etc. that claimed descent from the dynasty of Mularaja doesn't belong in the article Chaulukya dynasty. utcursch | talk 12:53, 25 January 2017 (UTC)

Share information

Utcursh can you please me the account address of any of social site account on any social networking site so that we can exchange information and gain some knowledge also . I'll be your greatful Kunal Singh Solanki Nathawat (talk) 14:22, 26 January 2017 (UTC)

@Kunal Singh Solanki Nathawat: You can use the article talk page for any discussion. utcursch | talk 14:25, 26 January 2017 (UTC)

Please any account

But bro I can't share pictures and I will like to become a friend of such a knowledgeable person Kunal Singh Solanki Nathawat (talk) 09:17, 27 January 2017 (UTC)

You can share pictures on Wikimedia Commons, or upload them somewhere and provide a link here. Also, you can be my friend here. utcursch | talk 17:06, 27 January 2017 (UTC)

Worldciv

No, we are different users. Actually we are student of same college and we are assigned different different dynasties. As instructed by our instructor Prof. Srinivas Reddy we have to gather more and more information related to our dynasty. And we have to update its wiki.page if we find something not present on it. In one way it is our assignment. I hope you got my point. It is true that I am new here but I won't misbehave, I'll try my best to follow guidelines. Sure! If there is any mistake please torch me right path I'll be happy.--Worldciv207 satavahanas (talk) 20:03, 27 January 2017 (UTC)

Replied on User talk:Worldciv207 satavahanas. utcursch | talk 22:04, 27 January 2017 (UTC)

Notice

There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The thread is College project that's introducing copyvios, plagiarism, OR and Non-NPOV content to wide variety of Indian history articles. —SpacemanSpiff 11:09, 29 January 2017 (UTC)

Dear Utcursch, I have given my response on SpecemanSpiff's talk page. We are very sorry and apologized for this. Please keep your eyes it will be very helpful for us to get on right track. In next class We will talk to our prof. And ask him to look at Wikipedia:Education page for these type of assignments.Worldciv207 satavahanas (talk) 13:15, 29 January 2017 (UTC)

Prithviraj Raso

Excellent work at Prithviraj Raso last year. - Sitush (talk) 15:07, 29 January 2017 (UTC)

Thanks. utcursch | talk 20:54, 29 January 2017 (UTC)

Padmini

Dubious sources, biased news reports cannot be valid sources. The first para has absolutely no references. Your editing is sloppy. Lets discuss this in a civilized manner or simply indulge in pointless edit wars.

Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Alxndrdegrt (talk • contribs) 11:07, 31 January 2017 (UTC)

@Alxndrdegrt: There is no news source being used as a reference except for the "controversy" section (which is news). The rest of the sources in the article are scholarly sources. Not to mention that you removed sourced content in your edits.

The lead section does not need citations, if it's a summary of referenced content in the article. Have a look at Wikipedia:Manual of Style.

You've already been given 11 warnings by different users on your talk page regarding disruptive editing and addition of unsourced content. If you haven't read WP:RS already, please do. utcursch | talk 11:12, 31 January 2017 (UTC)

Title of Chaulukyas

Respected sir It was only Mulraja I who used Chaulukya to describe Chalukya clan by all the rulers after him used the name Solanki , specially popular rulers like Bhimdev and Sidhraj Jai Singh , who have take a bold move by taking such a big step , very few are familiar to the Chaulukya clan and Solanki dynasty is very popular and it is mentioned in the academic syllabus of history in India . The word Chaulukya came into existence as the Chalukya prience Mulraja took the throne of Gujarat from his maternal uncle who was Chavda and the pronunciation changed from Chalukya - Chaulukya - Saulukiya - Saulkik - Solanki as they started to move towards the west from south and there border touched Rajputana , Chaulukya name was only used by the rulers of lata not by the rulers of Anhilwada Patan . Sir no one has given you the right to misinterpret my clan's history , so please change the title back to Solanki because you are insulating the brave Solanki rajputs Kunal Singh Solanki Nathawat (talk) 00:33, 10 February 2017 (UTC)

Read this

It's written by a Solanki and a Solanki knows it's clan history more than any one so stop playing with my clan's history and change the heading http://kssolanki.blogspot.in/2009/04/chalukya-to-solanki.html?m=1 Kunal Singh Solanki Nathawat (talk) 00:49, 10 February 2017 (UTC)

@Kunal Singh Solanki Nathawat: You've already started a discussion at Talk:Chaulukya dynasty: please limit it to that page. The article is not about your clan's history: it is about a dynasty whose kings didn't use the term "Solanki". If you have any reliable sources that state otherwise, please feel free to present them.

Sorry to break it to you, but claiming descent from a dynasty doesn't actually make you a descendant of those kings. Nearly every caste, community and clan in India claims some sort of royal descent.

As mentioned on the article's talk page, the academic / scholarly sources which describe the dynasty in detail, all use the dynasty's self-designation "Chaulukya" (IAST: Caulukya) to describe it. A post on blogspot is not a reliable source by Wikipedia standards. utcursch | talk 00:52, 10 February 2017 (UTC)

12 years of adminship, today.

Wishing Utcursch a very happy adminship anniversary on behalf of the Wikipedia Birthday Committee! Chris Troutman (talk) 02:43, 21 February 2017 (UTC)

Hello! There is a DR/N request you may have interest in.

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Re-initiating INCOTM

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Chandel

Sir on Wikipedia it is written totally wrong about the chandel clan that they were originated from bhar.It is really embarrassing and it really hurts.Chandel were known to be the oldest clan of rajputanna.So please sir edit the words which written about chandels on your wikipedia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ajay kumar Singh Chandel (talk • contribs) 18:55, 28 March 2017 (UTC)

@Ajay kumar Singh Chandel: Please see WP:NOTCENSORED.

If some scholars believe that Chandels were descended from Bhars and/or Gonds, a Wikipedia article will state that irrespective of whether it offends Chandels or not (that said, I don't understand why would someone be offended at that, unless they think that Bhars or Gonds are inferior to them).

If there is another scholarly source which states that this belief is wrong, you can add it to the article. utcursch | talk 19:35, 28 March 2017 (UTC)

Citation

Why isnt www.Karma99.com a citation?? Are Google books considered a citation?? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Airkeeper (talk • contribs) 18:45, 29 March 2017 (UTC)

@Airkeeper: Karma99.com is a personal blog run by two people: it has no editorial control. Anyone including you can set up such websites, and write anything on them: All you need is a domain name and a web host. Therefore, such websites are not acceptable sources for Wikipedia articles.

You can find better sources on Google Books, but remember that not all books are acceptable sources. For example, there are many self-published books and books that mirror Wikipedia content: these are not acceptable sources.

Have a look at WP:RS to see what kind of sources are acceptable. utcursch | talk 19:14, 29 March 2017 (UTC)

I saw Beatles fab four image separated with confusing process I couldn't get. From the image file Nepali Generals1.jpg, Nepali Generals2.jpg, plz help to separate the photo of each person from that picture for biography use of each person's page. Kind Regards Airkeeper (talk) 13:37, 30 March 2017 (UTC)

@Airkeeper: You can request images-related help at Wikipedia:Graphics Lab. utcursch | talk 14:14, 30 March 2017 (UTC)

Bhojeshwar Temple

Thank you for digging out the details and related literature. I have always wondered about the temple.

The nearby Jain temple was also left unfinished, its construction ramp was still present when I visited it the first time. Only the rough inner shell of the temple was present then. Ramp is now gone, and the Jain temple has now plane walls, the shell having been covered up. I've always assumes that the plain walls of the Bhojeshwar temple had the same explanation. However the Dhaki's hypothesis is interesting. Malaiya (talk) 23:29, 29 March 2017 (UTC)

@Malaiya: Thanks, you've also added some great content on India-related articles. Yeah, the Jain shrine has been completely transformed since I visited the place as a little child in the 1980s. When I last visited it in 2015, the access to the ancient tirthankara idols was also restricted. Will write an article it, if I can find some good sources. utcursch | talk 23:40, 29 March 2017 (UTC)

Vandalism at Wikidata

Damien2016 has been vandalising the definition of Chhetri from the wikidata. He has been editing it to unjustified statements. Please check and warn him. Airkeeper (talk) 17:21, 30 March 2017 (UTC)

It's not clear which edits are you referring to, but this looks like a content dispute. Take look at Wikipedia:Dispute resolution. utcursch | talk 19:35, 30 March 2017 (UTC)

MSA Publications Limited

Another WP:SPS publisher to keep an eye on, apparently named after the initials of Muhammad Saed Abdul-Rahman, a single employee, family as directors, registered in 2011, last declared income and assets per tax filings of less than £100. Came up in Shaheed article, that has a section on Sikhism. Ms Sarah Welch (talk) 15:08, 5 April 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for the information. utcursch | talk 16:30, 5 April 2017 (UTC)

Maurya is a surname

Maurya (Maurya, Maury, मौर्य) or Kushwaha (कुशवाहा) is an agricultural Hindu group name. It is a Kshatriya sub-varna which belongs to Ikshvaku dynasty. Koiry, Kushwaha, Shakya and Kashi or Kachi belong to Maurya caste. "Maurya" are traditionally involved in agricultural activities. They reside mostly in UP, MP, Bihar and North India.

They use titles like Kushwaha, Maurya, Saini(Sainya), Morya, Singh, Mahto, Mehta, Bhagirathi, Prasad, Rana, Dhaka, Hardia, Verma, Vadiya, Panjiyara, Chaudhary, Mandal etc.. Maurya caste is allied with other Kshatriya castes like Kashi (ancient republic of Kashi), Shakya (India and Nepal) as well as Bhagirathi and Sagarvanshi(Sainya,modified "Saini") agricultural castes Bhagrathi community . Kushwaha/Maurya/Shakya/Saini are an important farming caste many of these are landlords in UP/Bihar/MP etc. (i.e. Keshav Prasad Maurya , president of BJP in UP and Swami Prasad Maurya , MLA of BJP from UP Kunal Singh Solanki Nathawat (talk) 06:10, 6 April 2017 (UTC)

@Kunal Singh Solanki Nathawat: Not sure what's your point in copying this text from a random blog / Facebook page and pasting it here.

I'm guessing that you're referring to my objection to another user changing "Bindusara" to "Bindusara Maurya", "Ashoka" to "Ashoka Maurya" etc. If that's the case: the use of this dynastic name like a modern last name is anachronistic. No ancient texts, inscriptions or any other records call these kings "Bindusara Maurya". All decent scholarly / academic sources also refer to these kings as simply as "Binduara" and "Ashoka". The term "Maurya" is generally appended to the king's name, when there is a need for disambiguation (e.g. Dasharatha Maurya, as distinct from Dasharatha.

Yes, Maurya is used as a surname by some modern castes. But their claim of being descendants of ancient Maurya dynsaty or Ikshvaku dynasty is nothing more than pseudo-historic revisionism. Same goes for those claiming descent from the ancient Shakyas etc. utcursch | talk 17:50, 6 April 2017 (UTC)

I'm not saying that they are related to the Maurya dynasty and neither do they claim descendency from Maurya dynasty , they are descendents of Kushwahas , their main occupation was cattle rearing and Maurya surname does exist in India , ohh sorry how will you know as you live in Canada . I oppose the deletion of Maurya surname article , please create it back Kunal Singh Solanki Nathawat (talk) 02:24, 7 April 2017 (UTC)

The "article" you're talking about was a list containing names like "Bindusara Maurya", "Ashoka Maurya" etc. Feel free to re-create an article on the surname with sources and after reading Wikipedia:Notability guidelines. utcursch | talk 02:33, 7 April 2017 (UTC)

Regarding Correction of Portrait's title

Where should I request to change wrongly named portrait uploaded on Public Domain?? Airkeeper (talk) 06:38, 6 April 2017 (UTC)

I'm assuming that you're talking about an image hosted on Wikimedia Commons. If so, have a look at commons:Help:RenameLink. utcursch | talk 17:52, 6 April 2017 (UTC)

Page Move

I created the Phil Hanes wikipedia page a few days ago, and I was thinking that it would be easier to search for the page if the page was titled [Ralph Phillip "Phil" Hanes, Jr] instead of just [Phil Hanes]. As such I would like to request the page be moved to [Ralph "Phillip" Phil Hanes, Jr]. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Smithmummy (talk • contribs) 18:38, 8 April 2017 (UTC)

(talk page watcher) The references suggest that "Phil Hanes" is the name by which he is most commonly known, therefore the correct title. The solution is to add redirects from all the other versions of his name by which he is likely to be searched for (which probably don't include the "[Ralph Phillip "Phil" Hanes" version). I've added a few - you can see them listed at Special:WhatLinksHere/Phil_Hanes - one of them already had an incoming link, as you can see.

And in WP articles we refer to people by their surname only. I've fixed this. Happy Editing - there's a lot to learn but it's an interesting journey! PamD 20:02, 8 April 2017 (UTC)

@Smithmummy: Forgot to "ping" you to notify you of this reply! PamD 21:20, 8 April 2017 (UTC)

Thanks, PamD. utcursch | talk 21:51, 8 April 2017 (UTC)

Madhesi people

Please check the reliability of sources at Madhesi people section:History, subsection:Some Theories. Since the source is unavailable to view and the claim seems like a secession theory, you need to intervene at the article and also at Raj Darbhanga where it contains CK Raut's secession theory as part of history. These secessionist theory needs cleanup and supervised regularly as an impactful brainwashing activity is going on by few Madhesi people. Kind Regards Airkeeper (talk) 03:30, 16 April 2017 (UTC) Airkeeper (talk) 03:30, 16 April 2017 (UTC)

@Airkeeper: This looks like a content dispute to me. I am not knowledgeable enough about Nepal to intervene here. I'd recommend taking a look at Wikipedia:Dispute resolution requests. utcursch | talk 03:33, 16 April 2017 (UTC)

History of India

Is it possible to nominate History of India for GA in its present state? How much work will be required before it passes? -- Pankaj Jain Capankajsmilyo (talk · contribs · count) 04:33, 20 April 2017 (UTC)

@Capankajsmilyo: Unfortunately, no. It needs a near complete rewrite. It's way over-sized and unorganized. I've left a few comments on the talk page, but I lately haven't got time to work on the article. utcursch | talk 12:40, 20 April 2017 (UTC)

Kamarupa

I am surprised by your reversion of the notice. Please reply to the thread if you still have issues. Else, please remove the notice. Chaipau (talk) 23:00, 27 April 2017 (UTC)

I've replied at Talk:Kamarupa#Map. utcursch | talk 00:31, 28 April 2017 (UTC)

Ravana Rajputs

Respected sir ! Ravana Rajput's were not slaves. You mentioned slaves this is just disgusting. Ravana Rajput Belong to kshatriya caste. Why don't you mention this thing instead of writing slaves and all. And if possible add some media in ravana Rajput wiki page. Thank you Rajasthan Kshatriya (talk) 13:13, 30 April 2017 (UTC)

@Rajasthan Kshatriya: That they were slaves is not my opinion: that's what the reference says. Please see WP:V and WP:RS. utcursch | talk 16:56, 30 April 2017 (UTC)

Read this Google book Rajasthan volume. Here it is clearly mentioned that they were wazir,daroga. And also called as Shori sardars. Why don't you add this. And and some image of ravana Rajput. https://books.google.co.in/books?id=iKsqzB4P1ioC&pg=PA305&lpg=PA305&dq=google+book+daroga+rajput&source=bl&ots=JQ56JgCz91&sig=9SraTrRqha-IfWh_tFCzBgqyQrc&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjOvqnsz83TAhVFqo8KHSDLBDIQ6AEIGzAA#v=onepage&q=google%20book%20daroga%20rajput&f=false — Preceding unsigned comment added by Yashwant Singh Chauhan (talk • contribs) 03:27, 1 May 2017 (UTC)

@Yashwant Singh Chauhan: The book does not say that they held the posts of "wazir" etc. These are just alternative names of the community. If you have any sources that state otherwise, please feel free to add them to the article. utcursch | talk 14:19, 1 May 2017 (UTC)

It was just minor edit i made With reference. i have written what was there in that book. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Stewartlst (talk • contribs) 13:50, 2 May 2017 (UTC)

@Stewartlst: You removed the sourced content about slavery etc. You added this reference, which does not support your addition ("Ravana Rajputs are also called as Wazir, shori sardars, senapati"). Please provide a page number if you think the book supports your addition. utcursch | talk 14:16, 2 May 2017 (UTC)

Where is Gulabjamun termed Rasgulla?

Since you asked, here is the answer. In parts of Madhya Pradesh, Gulabjamun is invariably called Rasgulla, and has been for along time. For example in Katangi near Jabalpur, a local shop near the bus-stand is famous for "Jhurre Ka Rasgulla", (which is a Gulabjamun) which has been made for the past 100 years.

Here an example from Delhi region

Perhaps originally گلاب جامن gulāb-jāman actually meant a fruit with a scent resembling a rose.

While Jalebi and Samosa certainly entered India from the Middle East, I have not seen anything to suggest that Gulabjamun existed in India much prior to introduction of Rasgulla, I have seen somewhere the theory that Gulabjamun was the result of someone trying to create Rasgulla out of khova rather than Chhaina. Gulab (meaning rose) is certainly Farsi (which appears to be the reason for speculating its Mughal origin), Jamun is from Sanskrit Jambu. Regards, Malaiya (talk) 02:24, 2 May 2017 (UTC)

References

@Malaiya: As an long-timer Wikipedia, you already know that this is all original research. A variant of Gulab Jamun being called "Katangi ka rasgulla" has nothing to do with the origin of the dish. Moreover, the Katangi dish has not been made for past 100 years. From the Patrika article: "रसगुल्ला बनाने वाले राजेश जैन बताते हैं कि उनकी दुकान 110 साल से संचालित है। वे पिछले 20 वर्षों से रसगुल्ले बना रहे हैं।". A person claims that his shop was established 110 years ago, and states that he has been making "rasgullas" for last 20 years (not 100+ years).

The article has citations which clearly talk about the Mughal / pre-Mughal origin of Gulab Jamun. If you have any reliable sources that state otherwise, feel free to add them to the article. utcursch | talk 03:34, 2 May 2017 (UTC)

You may find this interesting. I know the shop and pass by it twice a year when I am in India, since it is right on the main road. In late 1950s or early 1960s, I was told that the famous confectioner (mithya) who made the rasgullas, had passed away a few years ago. The shop was already famous at that time. Apparently the person Rajesh Jain inherited the shop from his family members. Malaiya (talk)

Current project

Hey, you have created some really good pieces on Indian Rajput History recently. What is the current project you are working on? -- Pankaj Jain Capankajsmilyo (talk · contribs · count) 16:08, 3 May 2017 (UTC)

Thanks. I'm mostly working on 11th-12th century rulers right now. Don't have enough time to contribute as much as I want to, though. utcursch | talk 16:13, 3 May 2017 (UTC)

Appreciate your contribution. Do you have some info about ancient history of South India. I can't seem to find anything good about its history particularly pre-BC era. -- Pankaj Jain Capankajsmilyo (talk · contribs · count) 16:18, 3 May 2017 (UTC)

To be specific Mauryan and pre-Mauryan era. -- Pankaj Jain Capankajsmilyo (talk · contribs · count) 16:19, 3 May 2017 (UTC)

I have been looking for some good sources on that topic as well, but haven't found much. There are a lot of books by Tamil revivalist authors, but they are notoriously unreliable, as they freely mix myth and legends with history.

The works by respectable historians rarely cover the topic in detail, as there is little purely historical information about pre-Mauryan southern India. The legendary sources (e.g. Sangam stories, Sri Lankan Buddhist legends etc.) are not very reliable, and any reconstruction based on them is bound to be speculative.

Also, many works earlier considered as authoritative sources are now obsolete. For example, K. A. Nilakanta Sastri's book on the Pandyas has been reprinted in recent years, but it was actually written in 1929.

I'll let you know if I come across any good sources. utcursch | talk 16:47, 3 May 2017 (UTC)

Ok Thanks. Also is there something good on Pradyota and his predecessors? -- Pankaj Jain Capankajsmilyo (talk · contribs · count) 16:54, 3 May 2017 (UTC)

Nothing substantial that I know of, since nearly all the information comes from legendary sources. utcursch | talk 21:47, 3 May 2017 (UTC)

Ok, thanks -- Pankaj Jain Capankajsmilyo (talk · contribs · count) 15:56, 4 May 2017 (UTC)

Mahto

Hi..I would like to tell you that.. please remove the caste sections from the Mahto community. None of the castes belong to Mahto except koiri. Koiri Mahto is actually kushwaha..why you have mentioned like chamar , dhusad,dhobi...I have raised a complain against you on Wikipedia for intentionally defaming community and repeatedly adding the same contents again and again after my removal.

I have already chased several times before...may I know what's your real name. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dineshmahto111 (talk • contribs)

@Dineshmahto111: The caste section is not my personal opinion. It is sourced content, backed by citations. Please find a reliable source for your claim that no other castes except Koiri use the surname Mahto. utcursch | talk 21:47, 3 May 2017 (UTC)

Where ever you got all these caste contents are bogus and totally intentionally brought by none other than you. You had argued on this before and you searched some irrelevant contents on the net which has nothing to do with the Mahto community as Mahto belongs to Kushwaha Koery community and not like chamar,dushad, Yadav. I am requesting you to remove the caste sections from the article .You have copied from somewhere and put intentionally. Due to your so inhuman behavior you could be revoked from the admin access. I have already brought this notice to the Wikipedia support group. Your repetitive inhuman behavior may lead to you in trouble. Could you Please let me know your real name. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dineshmahto111 (talk • contribs) 20:41, 4 May 2017 (UTC)

@Dineshmahto111: The article has 11 books as references, none of which are written by me. On the other hand, you have still not provided a single source for your claim that the surname Mahto belongs only to the "Kushwaha Koery" community.

If you think I have misused my administrator privileges, you can complain at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents. utcursch | talk 20:58, 4 May 2017 (UTC)

@None of the books belong to Mahto community..Why are you linking that with this ..Who told you that, That all books is correct information and..most importantly it has nothing to do with this community.So pleae remove all those caste.... — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dineshmahto111 (talk • contribs) 19:32, 13 May 2017 (UTC)

@Dineshmahto111: First of all, the article is not about the community: it is about a surname which is used by several communities (as the references state). Your community (Kudumi Mahato, I presume) might be one of these communities.

Secondly, even if it was about a community, there is no requirement that the cited books should "belong to Mahto community". On the contrary, the cited sources should be independent of the subject. The books published by caste organizations are not considered as reliable sources. utcursch | talk 19:36, 13 May 2017 (UTC)

I think to make you understand is like beating heads on the stone. Who is your boss Please give me his email id and contact number. I will escalate this matter to higher authorities. I will see you how you will not remove these contents. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dineshmahto111 (talk • contribs) 19:15, 15 May 2017 (UTC)

@Dineshmahto111: I have already told you: If you think I have misused my administrator privileges, you can complain at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents. utcursch | talk 19:31, 15 May 2017 (UTC)

Sources

Hey, can you please have a look at sources on Udayagiri and Khandagiri Caves. I doubt they confirm WP: HISTRS. -- Pankaj Jain Capankajsmilyo (talk · contribs · count) 15:58, 4 May 2017 (UTC)

The article already seems to be tagged for referencing issues, and another user seems to be working on adding better references. I'll also take a look at it when I get some time. utcursch | talk 16:08, 4 May 2017 (UTC)

Ok thanks. -- Pankaj Jain Capankajsmilyo (talk · contribs · count) 16:09, 4 May 2017 (UTC)

Which Aryabhatta gave timeline for legendary kings of Magadha?

Modern historians fixed 476 AD as the birth year of Aryabhatta. But the fact is he actually born in 2765 BC.In his book, he clearly mentioned that 360(60*6) years were passed in the fourth Yuga and 23 years were passed since my birth when he wrote the book Aryabhattiya. So, he was born in 337 Kali.But the western historians just altered 60*6 into 60*60. So, it became 3600(60*60) years of Kali Yuga were passed and 23 years were passed since my birth. So, his birth year became 476 AD. So, Aryabhatta definitely didn't mention anything about legendary kings of Magadha.

Thank You,

Narayananm1998

@Narayananm1998: It doesn't matter whether or not Aryabhatta provided these dates or not. What matters is that you removed the {{citation needed}} tags from the article, without removing the unsourced content. If you removed only the " (According to Aryabhata)" part, nobody would have any problems with your edits. utcursch | talk 04:36, 13 May 2017 (UTC)

I've raised the article at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Indian history#Legendary kings of Magadha is a mess, possibly needs to go to AfD. I'm posting various comments to the editor's talk page, but I think they may need more help than I can give. Doug Weller talk 10:31, 22 May 2017 (UTC)

Query

Hey, I am thinking if this could be used as a solution to prevent vandals on pages of Indian monarchs (in infoboxes). What is your comment on the same? -- Pankaj Jain Capankajsmilyo (talk · contribs · count) 18:57, 15 May 2017 (UTC)

@Capankajsmilyo: Module:WikidataIB is currently in alpha stage, so it's not ready for production use. utcursch | talk 19:37, 15 May 2017 (UTC)

We can start with testcases. There seems to be no issue in Chandragupta Maurya using this module. -- Pankaj Jain Capankajsmilyo (talk · contribs · count) 19:43, 15 May 2017 (UTC)

You can propose that on the article's talk page. utcursch | talk 19:44, 15 May 2017 (UTC)

Already done. Please give your comments there. -- Pankaj Jain Capankajsmilyo (talk · contribs · count) 19:47, 15 May 2017 (UTC)

Bhonsale

I didn't think this is a fake reference... http://www.culturalindia.net/indian-music/indian-singers/asha-bhosle.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.122.15.119 (talk) 05:19, 20 May 2017 (UTC)

If you're referring to this edit, yes, that is a fake reference. It does not say anything like "Among Brahmin, Bhonsle is also a gotra". The singer's maiden name is Mangeshkar. utcursch | talk 18:24, 20 May 2017 (UTC)

Reverted the vandalism

Sino-Nepalese War has been edited multiple times by User:Akanns without any justification. Please revert those edits. Airkeeper (talk) 03:04, 21 May 2017 (UTC)

Also another User:Skanba and User:Nerdboi123 with few double-digit edits did the same as User:Akanns who also has few edits. Thus, it needs to be looked upon by admin. Airkeeper (talk) 03:11, 21 May 2017 (UTC)

Sorry, I wrote reverted. User:Akanns has removed sourced content, added unsourced content and no edit summary was given. The username was formed some 6 days ago and has edited all Chinese war topics with no edit summary and User:Nerdboi123 also formed some weeks ago did edit Chinese war topics. Both looks like sock id of User:Skanba who was banned for sockpuppetry editing Chinese war topics. Airkeeper (talk) 07:45, 21 May 2017 (UTC)

Hello Utkarshraj,

I made a couple of rectifications on your page Babri masjid. However, you chose to revert them back, citing a reason that I did not mention a proper "source" for those. Well with all due respect, Mr.Utkarsh, let me tell you that all things do not need a proof or a reliable source to back it up. Previously in that article there was written that "Little evidential proof exists that there was a Ram temple over there, before it got demolished and a mosque was constructed in its place!! Little evidence? Oh comeon……go there and see for yourself. There is proof everywhere in that city that Lord Rama was born at that very place. It is called as रामल्ला जन्म-स्थली om hindi. All the great scriptures like तुलसीक्रुत रामायण, वाल्मिकि रामायण have a clear mention that Rama was born in Ayodhya, at the banks of the river सर्यू in the northern part of India. This clearly means that Rama was born at the same hilly place, known as रामकोट (fort of Rama). The scriptures also mention very categorically that after Lord Rama's life was over and he ascended to heaven, a temple was built by his masses, in his memory at exactly the same place, where he was born. Now, there can't be two places in अयोध्या (present day Faizabad), where Rama could have been born. This leads us towards a strong conclusion, that this was the place where the temple was constructed, which eventually and ruthlessly got destroyed by Babar and his men.

So now that I have given subjective support to my corrections, please revert back to what I corrected. Please give truth a chance.

Regards, Kamlesh Bhatt kbhatt 20:42, 21 May 2017 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kbplus2008 (talk • contribs)

@Kbplus2008: On Wikipedia, everything you add does need a reliable source. Please see WP:BURDEN. If you have any concerns about the existing article content, you can discuss them at Talk:Babri Masjid. utcursch | talk 00:36, 22 May 2017 (UTC)

About revert in panch gowda

Hello utcurch as you can identify 1st one I.e RAjatangiri just gives account of region of Brahmins not caste but second one I.e Kaifiyat was done for the purpose of upper level account mentions caste which was within the region of Maratha empire.This was not official anyhow published in 1994.This really creates problem in wiki as we know there is no mention of many castes here,I.e Kerala Brahmins ,Kashmir Brahmins ,punjabi Brahmins and Bengali Brahmins (where as RAjatangiri crossed all boundary but never mentioned caste it was up to them to decide whether their caste was there or not).So wiki always support neutral phase rite. Madgaonkar (talk) 14:09, 2 June 2017 (UTC)

@Madgaonkar: Having an article on Hitler doesn't mean that Wikipedia supports Hitler. Similarly, making a mention of the description given in Kaifiyats doesn't mean that Wikipedia supports or opposes that description. All that matters is that the content is supported by a reliable source (which it is, in this case). utcursch | talk 14:12, 2 June 2017 (UTC)

I can give you many source claiming Gujjar Brahman ligustic are from Dravidians language family but my point is clear here,simply why to create confusion by adding separate caste while omitting other caste here? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Madgaonkar (talk • contribs)

@Madgaonkar: Please feel free to add whatever you want (with a reliable source), but do not remove sourced content. There is no "confusion" here. Two different texts have two different definitions of the terms. Wikipedia mentions both those definitions attributing them to the respective texts, with proper sources. utcursch | talk 14:22, 2 June 2017 (UTC)

https://books.google.co.in/books?id=AMEECgAAQBAJ&pg=PA161&lpg=PA161&dq=maratha+kaifiyat&source=bl&ots=KxEA9VkIlh&sig=iSrLpdSfDHs3rlGtRK7zwWARhx0&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjS4cfbrp_UAhWIso8KHVkbAFwQ6AEIHDAA#v=onepage&q=maratha%20kaifiyat&f=false

Please go through this which gives the detail about the meaning and continuation of kaifiyat Madgaonkar (talk) 14:33, 2 June 2017 (UTC)

Sorry, I'm not sure what's your point here. utcursch | talk 14:57, 2 June 2017 (UTC)

It is quite clear there only south Maratha country.Then why are you making point visible as whole Brahmin division?? Madgaonkar (talk) 19:03, 2 June 2017 (UTC)

Let me clear one thing the division in RAjatangiri is just division based on region not caste but this has directly included caste (No mention of Brahmins of Kerala,Kashmir,north west,Odisha )Kanojia and kamrupi are of same origin here they are mentioned separately !!!.Kaifiyat means buerocratic record not based on any religion texts.That's why I am calling this as blunder.Without reference of many caste why are you trying to impose this on all caste?? Madgaonkar (talk) 19:08, 2 June 2017 (UTC)

@Madgaonkar: The source cited by you does not support the statement "This division was made for the accountability of castes in Maratha confederacy and not based on any religious texts". Please feel free to add this back with a reliable source. utcursch | talk 20:15, 2 June 2017 (UTC)

Removed website link

Hi i am vivek tailor, I just see that you remove my website link from the page chittorgarh. I just wanted to let you that website(http://chittorgarh.city) is perfectly fit for the page chittorgarh. I do not copy contents from any where and write them from a book you can also check that at the very end of articles i have put text reference as well. website(http://chittorgarh.city) contains detailed information regarding the history of chittorgarh. I request you that please revert your changes. Thanks Vivek tailor (talk) 08:41, 4 June 2017 (UTC) Vivek Tailor

@Vivek tailor: Your website fails the WP:ELNO criteria. And yes, nearly all the content on your website is lifted from other copyrighted sources on the Internet. For example, [5] from here, [6] from [7] and so on. If you want to write about Chittorgarh, please add content to Wikipedia instead of promoting your own website. utcursch | talk 01:45, 5 June 2017 (UTC)

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