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K.D. Jhalli

Bro how u doing now a days.!

Please don't vandalize the page Nedumpally

You mentioned that Wikipedia documents mentioned as reference are not reliable. Then, 1st try to correct those unreliable sources. Wikipedia project team recommends internal references rather than external ones. Next, you commented about dumping from other pages. If you see the pages- Knanaya and Syrian Malabar Nasrani, you could see many portions in common. Please remove those dumps. In order to state the history and tradition of Nedumpally in a seamless manner, I have to include aryan and dravidian history in the page and for that I have replicated some sentences from those pages after proper varification/modification only. Since Wikipedia allows it, you can't disapprove it. Before removing any portion, 1st you point out your suggestion clearly in talk page. With Regards Ashley(ash.simple@gmail.com) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 218.248.72.195 (talk) 12:55, 22 September 2011 (UTC)

Please see my response at Talk:Nedumpally##Irrelevant_information. utcursch | talk 13:50, 22 September 2011 (UTC)

Request your opinion

Request your opinion on the discussion Talk:Mohammed_Rafi#Opinions_needed. Since you are from India, hence thought you might have a closer view on the issue raised by Joyson. Thanks. ClintonSS 07:57, 26 August 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by ClintonSS (talk • contribs)

Suneet Maheshwari

This is in response to your msg. I have added references of linkedin page and the company website. what more do i have to give as references for the write-up that i have uploaded?? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Suneetkm (talk • contribs) 09:24, 24 May 2011 (UTC)

Please help

I have added image in article "dhebra".You choose appropriate category for it.And add it in article. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sunil pandya (talk • contribs)

query

Hi, First of all, i thank you for reformatting and editing the page created by me i.e. DLF Public School, Sahibabad. It looks much better now.

Actually, i had a query from you. we have mentioned about the Facebook page of the school, and we would like to mention about the details of its administrator, that is me and one of my coworker, since the students who generally visit Wikipedia in search of the school's details feel better to talk to their 'Peer leaders' and not the school authority for any help, thus mentioning about the peer leaders, who run the Facebook page as admins will simplify the process for the students and make it convenient for them, so can this be done?? Can i mention the details? any guidelines you would like to give for the same? Thanks Epbr123 (talk) 13:42, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

Taekwondo Federation of India (talk) 08:58, 24 November 2010 (UTC)

Need your support

Hi! This is Grandmaster Jimmy R. Jagtiani, I have written an Article "History of Taekwondo" etc. And this is my first Article, I have no idea of editing & formatting, kindly help. Jimmy R. Jagtiani

Request

Hi, Can you help me with regard to National Institute of Agricultural Extension Management, Hyderabad. Can you advice me in making this article neutral.For your kind information, the info mentioned is factual and collected from the institute itself. Being a National Institute, I felt the necessity of creating space for such a pioneer organisation which started the Agri-business management education in India.
Thanks..Managehyderabad (talk) 14:07, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Ravinder Kumar (wrestler)

The article Ravinder Kumar (wrestler) has been proposed for deletion because under Wikipedia policy, all biographies of living persons created after March 18, 2010, must have at least one source that directly supports material in the article.

If you created the article, please don't take offense. Instead, consider improving the article. For help on inserting references, see Wikipedia:Referencing for beginners or ask at Wikipedia:Help desk. Once you have provided at least one reliable source, you may remove the {{prod blp}} tag. Please do not remove the tag unless the article is sourced. If you cannot provide such a source within ten days, the article may be deleted, but you can request that it be undeleted when you are ready to add one. Epbr123 (talk) 20:43, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

Curtis James

Quite right - I also failed to find any confirmation of anything but a non-notable high-school running career - all the rest seems to be fantasy. While I was looking into it, an IP removed your "hoax" tag, so I have taken it to AfD here. One of its editors promptly popped up to say, "why not just edit his page to be a High School athlete?" Regards, JohnCD (talk) 16:18, 11 November 2010 (UTC)

Thanks. utcursch | talk 03:40, 12 November 2010 (UTC)

Vettinjayathil family

Hi Utcursch,

I saw a deletion notice on this article which i have created.I couldn't find any online sources for this ,could you please help me in finding reliable sources ? Kiranchandranpowathil (talk) 08:27, 16 November 2010 (UTC)

I couldn't find any family history on web.Normally there won't be any details on web about ancient families.I enquired the family members also to find out some books in which the family is mentioned.I haven't heard anything from them also yet.Once i get i would add it.Please let me know what should i do in this case. Kiranchandranpowathil (talk) 11:03, 19 November 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for your comments, I came to know that it's being told about the Vettinjayathil family in the book Edappilly Kovilakam - Charithrathinte Naazhikakkallu (Saga of Edappilly), hence I added it as an offline reference to the article. Kiranchandranpowathil (talk) 12:22, 22 November 2010 (UTC)

Saini

Dear Utcursch, I saw your concerns regarding Yadu/yaduvanshi/yadav. & also about Saini. For saini, kindly see some scholarly comment about them, [1], which says by their own account it is derived from persian rasaini, which means "skilled gardener", given by a Moslem Ruler. it has nothing to do with shoorsaini, or Yaduvanshi. Reputed Scholars like, Sir Bhandarkar, ghurye, Karmakar, Pusalkar, Chanda, Russel, Nesfield, Bhati and many other considers only Ahir/Yadav caste/Ayir and also to a limited extent Jadaun (whom scholars consider to be offshoot of yaduvanshi ahir) while talking about the topic yadav and descendants of Yadu. I would urge you to try to improve the Saini article which is full of POVs and tries to relate to shoorsainis of ancient scripture. Infact the region Mathura was called saursena and is named after king Madhu, about whom scriptures say had gifted the entire territory of Mathura to Abhira, as per Padma Purana. So, Please try to understand the issue. Feel free to talk to me if you need any clarification. Ikon ^No-Blast 18:21, 16 November 2010 (UTC)

Nira Radia

Regarding this.

I didn't tag the article as unreferenced. The article has statements like "A small time executive of Sahara Airlines managed to climb through connections and networking from many people of South and North and East and West India. She was introduced to Tata by a southern businessman who is a close friend of Ratan Tata and close with DMK family."

Do you think the article doesn't need a cleanup? Cheers - Amog | ^{Talk • contribs} 17:30, 21 November 2010 (UTC)

On hindsight, perhaps the npov tag was a little excessive. - Amog | ^{Talk • contribs} 17:50, 21 November 2010 (UTC)

Illegal immigration in India

Hi,

I have somewhat enhanced the article Illegal immigration in India. Please review and comment on the talk page if the NPOV banner can be removed.

Thanks --Iball (talk) 16:34, 22 November 2010 (UTC)

Talkback

Hello, Utcursch. You have new messages at Wikipedia talk:Noticeboard for India-related topics.
Message added SBC-YPR (talk) 13:49, 23 November 2010 (UTC). You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

Taekwondo Federation of India (talk) 09:15, 24 November 2010 (UTC) Taekwondo Federation of India (talk) 09:20, 24 November 2010 (UTC)

Need your support

Hi! Your message recd. We have written an Article "History of Taekwondo" etc. And this is the first Article, we have no idea of editing & formatting, kindly advice & help.
For: Taekwondo Federation of India
Represented by
Grandmaster Jimmy R. Jagtiani, 8th Dan

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Thanks

Taekwondo Federation of India (talk) 10:02, 25 November 2010 (UTC)
Hello Mr. Utcursch.
Thanks for the encouraging message. In-fact, I was so upset when some-one try to deleted my Article, if possible kindly restore the same and if any unwanted line, remove them according to Wikipedia rules. I shall be highly obliged.
Thanking you,
Grandmaster Jimmy R. Jagtiani
Father of Taekwondo in India
Check this Article
http://www.wikihow.com/Become-an-Olympic-Fighter-in-Taekwondo
Can it be in Wikipedia

Gujjar

An editor has asked me to move it to Gurjar, see User_talk:SpacemanSpiff#Gurjar. I don't know if it's right or not, but since you redirected the other title, can you discuss this with the editor? He has opened a discussion on the talk page too. cheers. —SpacemanSpiff 17:19, 25 November 2010 (UTC)

Bachal

Hi!!An editor User:Mkrestin is trying vandalism, repeatedly, above page and several other also. Recently, he just redirected the Bachal, the whole page to another page Bachhal. Without mergeing the contents. I have again reverted the contents of whole, Bachal page. Whereas the other page Bachhal, is poorly written. Can this page be mearged into page Bachal. Please have a look at both page and their history. It will be nice to hear back from you. Thanks. R P Jethwa (talk) 08:09, 26 November 2010 (UTC)

Hi, you just check the [discussion page].The sources sited in articles such as Jayas, bachal, Raghav (surname) etc are same and put by the same user who created these articles.I searched for raghav mention in these sources and didn't find even mention of word Raghav.[See].Thank you Mkrestin (talk) 08:46, 26 November 2010 (UTC)

Hi!! Thanks for your comment on [[2]] Bachal talk page. I have put my comments. Please see. I request you to mearge both page. Bachal & Bachhal, if you feel so. See ya!! R P Jethwa (talk) 10:15, 26 November 2010 (UTC)

I had started a communique with User:WALTHAM2 the creator of other page Bachhal and he has consented to merge both pages and he is ready to do clean-up. [3]. So as an ADMIN, I request you to take the lead and merge both pages. ThanksR P Jethwa (talk) 13:27, 26 November 2010 (UTC)

Help required

CorenSearchBot has marked the Uluberia Uttar (Vidhan Sabha constituency) for possible copyright violation. Please review the position and remove the warning tag. There actually is no copyright violation. I am sorry to disturb you again and again. Regards. - Chandan Guha (talk) 03:20, 27 November 2010 (UTC)

No problem. You can also remove the tag yourself. After all, CorenSearchBot has been wrong so many times. utcursch | talk 04:39, 27 November 2010 (UTC)

Don't PRODS require notice?

I'm looking a Shades Of Retribution(SOR), an article you nominated for PROD. Seems like it ought to go, but I don't see that the creator was nominated, unless I missed something, so I'm not planning to delete it at this time. I'm still a wet-behind-the-ears new admin, so please let me know if I'm missing something.--SPhilbrickT 18:02, 27 November 2010 (UTC)

It's not a necessary condition that the author be notified, though it's always a good idea to do so. I don't do that in cases where the author is clearly a single-purpose account or a spammer. utcursch | talk 18:30, 27 November 2010 (UTC)

Notable Scams in India

Great references, we should try and get this to DYK ..-- . Shlok _{talk .} 18:00, 28 November 2010 (UTC)

Hello Sir How are you

Thanks for welcoming me sir. and giving me confidence to share my knowledge you. Sir i have a question i am creating an article -> Ugardanti. Kindly Help me as i am not good in writing in English. (Sharpreetsingh (talk) 10:24, 9 December 2010 (UTC))

Chawngte

I'm a bit confused about Chawngte. You have it as a redirect to Lunglei district, yet it is listed in the Chakma Autonomous District Council article as its capital, located at the north eastern corner of CADC on the bank of the Tuichong river, and the Chakma Autonomous District Council is in Lawngtlai district. The State Bank of India indicates that Chawngte is in Lawngtlai. STATE BANK OF INDIA, Chawngte Branch, Lawngtlai, Mizoram, while wikimaps indicates that it is in Lunglei. Some sources list Kamalanagar as an alternative name, but there is no Kamalanagar in the GNIS for Mizoram. There is no Chawngte in the GNIS either. Wikimaps suggests that Kamalanagar is adjacent to Chawngte. There is no listing in the GNIS for the Chawngte River either. Do you have some good sources that you could refer me to? --Bejnar (talk) 18:40, 23 December 2010 (UTC)

Going by cic.nic.in, it seems to fall in Lawngtlai. utcursch | talk 18:46, 23 December 2010 (UTC)

I'm not sure that cic.nic.in can be trusted because it has Sangau (22° 44' N, 93° 4' E) in Lawngtlai district instead of Saiha district, where it clearly is. The US Army topo sheet "NF 46-6, Chittagong, Pakistan; India; Burma" topographic map, Series U502, U.S. Army Map Service, March 1960, places it at about 22°37′08″N 92°38′39″E, which is very near the border between Lunglei district and Lawngtlai district. It is possible that it is at the border. The "Lawngtlai District Map" from Maps of India does not show it. --Bejnar (talk) 23:53, 23 December 2010 (UTC)

I don't really know. Maybe the name Chawngte is shared by multiple places? I came across the following documents on mizoram.nic.in (the official website of the Mizoram state)

• [4] states that Chawngte is in Lawngtlai district. [5] states that Chawngte-P is a panchayat in the Lawngtlai block.
• [6] states that Chawngte Post Office is in the Lunglei district. [7] indicates that Chawngte-L and Chawngte-L is a panchayat in Lungsen (which according to Lunglei, falls in the Lunglei district.
• [8] indicates that Chawngte is a place in the Chakma Autonomous District Council.

Maybe the area that is now the Chakma Autonomous District Council was (or is?) located within the Lawngtali district? utcursch | talk 05:13, 24 December 2010 (UTC)

My unit was there in Lungleh (old spelling) in the mid-eighties though I was not there myself. It appears that Lunglei is a district containing Lungtalai (the spelling told me back then) block in which Chawngte village existed. The Chakma council would be a political grouping of which probably Lunglei and other districts alsoi form a part. But this view needs corroboration. AshLin (talk) 06:11, 24 December 2010 (UTC)

Thanks, Colonel. I've dropped a note at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Mizoram#Chwangte seeking help. The project seems quite inactive, though. utcursch | talk 06:40, 24 December 2010 (UTC)

Desiree Jennings controversy listed at Redirects for discussion

An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Desiree Jennings controversy. Since you had some involvement with the Desiree Jennings controversy redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion (if you have not already done so). Robofish (talk) 18:13, 29 December 2010 (UTC)

Image request

You have put this tag on a number of pages of companies and organisations/socities. What kind of picture you are requesting .Image of the building of the organisation or of manufacturing plant or of the people who manage these enterprises.Shyamsunder (talk) 11:20, 9 January 2011 (UTC)

Western India Automobile Association

Hope u realise tht the pics of the Childrens Park we took durng WTM 1 is a Traffic Training Park run jointly by Mumbai Traffic Police and WIAA - this is not a pic of WIAA premises (wch are at Churchgate). Around The Globe^{सत्यमेव जयते} 12:33, 16 January 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, but some picture is better than no picture. I've captioned the picture appropriately. utcursch | talk 16:28, 16 January 2011 (UTC)

License tagging for File:Salesians of Don Bosco logo.svg

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dhebra image

please add image category in article dhebra.and add image in dhebra which is i upload. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sunil pandya (talk • contribs) 11:55, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

Take a look?

As you clean up more on this subject can you take a look at my comments here and also look at the mentioned articles and AfD and comment on what we're looking at? cheers. —SpacemanSpiff 04:59, 19 January 2011 (UTC)

Frankly, I've stopped wasting my time on these caste-related articles. Nobody reads them except people belonging to these castes or people belonging to the rival castes. We can spend our time better working on articles that we actually enjoy editing. utcursch | talk 07:03, 19 January 2011 (UTC)

Same case with me, I only look at them when they get to "mainstream" articles or if there are biography implications. This one appears to have mainstream implications because it makes some tall claims all sourced to some caste historians, relating to Indian railways. cheers. —SpacemanSpiff 07:43, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

LGBT articles of Brazil

Hello! Brazilian people love U.S. citizens. Many flights from TX, CA, FL, NY, and GE to Brazil exists. You are very welcome. In FEBRUARY, in the Supreme Federal Court of Brazil will be aproved the *SAME-SEX MARRIAGE IN BRAZIL* ([9]), and the pages LGBT rights in Brazil and Recognition of same-sex unions in Brazil need of you. Because will generate a heavy traffic on these pages, and we need you to help in the English spelling of these pages, you understand me? Please help me. Hentzer (talk) 23:00, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

Greetings from Vivek Varghese Cherian

Hi Utcursch,

It is was nice having you help us out during with the 10th Anniversary Celebration of Wikipedia. We are planning a series of activities which include photo walks around Mumbai in the coming days and more follow up sessions at VJTI with an aim of building up the Wikipedia culture in Mumbai.

Please do join us in these efforts if you can really spare some time.

Vivekvc (talk) 12:48, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

I've a busy academic schedule these days, but will surely try! utcursch | talk 12:54, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

Road articles

I have created a few pages which do not really meet the criteria for Wikipedia article creation (an article I read only after I created the article). Would you suggest that the article be deleted. These are the articles:

• Dayanand Saraswati Marg, Chembur
• P L Lokhande Marg
• Jeejabai Bhosle Marg

Thanks in advance for your help.

Prad2609 (talk) 06:03, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

To further update, I have placed P L Lokhande Marg and Jeejabai Bhosle Marg for deletion. Do check if I have done it correctly. I am unsure if Dayanand Saraswati Marg, Chembur can be merged with Chembur article. Prad2609 (talk) 17:21, 11 February 2011 (UTC)

Heard you at BBC podcast!

Hey Utcursche.. Just heard your little bit introducing yourself as a wikipedian on the BBC Documentary on "Wikipedia at 10" by Jon Stewart. Congrats! :) Try this -- ΜιĿːtalk 12:42, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

Thanks :-) utcursch | talk 13:08, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

Reply

(1)The article that you say has not been written for the caravan, it has been written for unpublished book. This was not the case then the caravan would not have written "printed from the book" (2) Sorry for reverting all changes... (3) I saw on your page, your are a management schools student in Mumbai, therefore I think you have a confilcts of interests editing an article about another management schools professor . so please read the guidelines your selves and clarify on the articles talk page about the conflicts of interests you have.You are administrator OTRS user, I expected higher ethic and value from you. Suraj845 (talk) 05:09, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

See my note at Talk:Arindam Chaudhuri. I know you're good at playing these games -- I don't really want to waste my time on this puff piece. utcursch | talk 06:29, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

Personal attack

I feel this is a personal attack against me. Can you please remove it for me per WP:PA? Zuggernaut (talk) 06:10, 9 February 2011 (UTC)

You can directly ask RegentsPark to remove it :-) utcursch | talk 06:22, 9 February 2011 (UTC)

A request

Hi,

I have a request for you. Could you help to fix the article on Pankaj Mullick?

Thanks,

GhanaDa (talk) 23:52, 9 February 2011 (UTC)

Have a word with this fellow

Please have a word with Winston786, either he is having problems reading or he doesn't wish to include certain edits, as in here, when clearly the reference talks about the abduction of Hindu women. I have also raised a WPAN/I about his unrelaible sources here, something raised by anothe editor too. Thanks --SH 09:44, 12 February 2011 (UTC)

User:Kuru has already blocked Winston786. utcursch | talk 09:35, 13 February 2011 (UTC)

Sardarji Jokes

Hi Fellow editor, to avoid attacks on the page, maybe the heading should be changed to maybe say "Racism against Sardarji's" or "Racist Jokes about Sardarji's". Thanks--SH 18:11, 17 February 2011 (UTC)

Sikh Reference Library

Nice job consolidating the references!--Profitoftruth85 (talk) 17:33, 22 February 2011 (UTC)

Air India Destinations

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Orissa/Odisha

Hi. See Wikipedia talk:Noticeboard for India-related topics#Orissa/Odisha. Do you know if this name change is finally officially official yet? What would make it so, and what would be a WP:RS? Regards, JohnCD (talk) 17:06, 26 February 2011 (UTC)

Creative Commons

We (at WP:Mumbai) are trying to arrange for a Creative Commons specialist to talk to Art Galleries and Museums in Mumbai and explain the different types of Creative Commons licenses to them (and advise them which ones are accepted on Wikipedia). This is part of WP:GLAM - trying to get them to release content under a Wikipedia acceptable license. Would you be interested in attending such a session? Part of your job would be to understand the whole thing and to convince people concerned to release content under CC-BY or CC-BY-SA. Around The Globe^{सत्यमेव जयते} 06:46, 9 March 2011 (UTC)

I guess I would be interested, but given my schedule, it'll be hard for me to commit any time. utcursch | talk 06:50, 9 March 2011 (UTC)

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Major cleanup underway at Kayastha; your help would be appreciated

Greetings, I'm doing a major chop on Kayastha, removing caste puffery, adding proper citations about the controversy of their varna designation, and generally trying to hack out unref, OR, and other unsuitable materials. If you have any chance at all to chip in, it'd be greatly appreciated. Likewise, even watchlisting and keeping an eye out for upset editors removing my (full footnoted) notations about their possible Shudra status (an unpopular topic) would be appreciated. Thanks! MatthewVanitas (talk) 15:19, 19 April 2011 (UTC)

Your contributed article, Parihar Rajputs

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Ballyclough GAA

Why have you deleted this page beore I baraly got started with it? I was obtaining information form some other pages and found you have deleted this within seconds of starting? Pmunited (talk) 18:16, 24 May 2011 (UTC)

Could i extend my apologizes to you for tagging this article for speedy deletion, I was wrong in doing so and hope it did not cause you to much inconvenience. Kind Regards Wilbur2012(talk) 20:15, 24 May 2011 (UTC)

Yaduvanshi Ahir merge?

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The YA article is a right trainwreck, and having had to do much of the exact same work on Ahirs and Yadav, I'm not keen to do it again a third time on Yaduvanshi Ahir, and then defend three separate articles from identical POV pushes. Thoughts? MatthewVanitas (talk) 22:07, 31 May 2011 (UTC)

Sumitkachroo claims that Yaduvanshi Ahirs are a subset of Ahirs. I don't have time to check the references, but even if this is true, at least the duplication of content can be avoided. For example, the details of ancient/medieval "Yadava" dynasties should be limited to one article, not all the articles. Unfortunately, caste glorification is a big problem with such articles, and once in a while, someone will add such content back to these articles. utcursch | talk 15:06, 1 June 2011 (UTC)

IIPM caravan magazine controversy

Siddharthmukund (talk) 07:19, 26 June 2011 (UTC) I have to report undoing of my addition to the iipm page by User:Suraj845 citing unconstructive edit. Could somebody please explain the same to me as i think it is a valid controversy though going by your point earlier i think i should summarise it in 2 - 3 bullet points. Siddharthmukund (talk) 07:19, 26 June 2011 (UTC) " It was reported on June 23, 2011 in various Indian news publications, that IIPM has filed a lawsuit against The Caravan magazine claiming damages to the tune of Rs 50 crore, citing “grave harassment and injury” for its cover story of February 2011 issue which focussed on the institute’s main man Arindam Chaudhuri.[94] [95] The article, titled “Sweet Smell of Success: How Arindam Chaudhuri Made a Fortune Off the Aspirations—and Insecurities—of India’s Middle Classes”, was written by Siddhartha Deb, a contributing editor at The Caravan and a university professor based in New York. The article was adapted from his book "The Beautiful And The Damned: Life In The New India" published in India by Penguin. Apart from Caravan, the suit also charges Siddhartha Deb,the author, Penguin (the publisher of the book), and Google India (which, the suit alleges, has been “publishing, distributing, giving coverage, circulating, blogging the defamatory, libellous and slanderous articles”).

The suit against The Caravan was filed not in Delhi, where both IIPM and the magazine’s publisher, Delhi Press, are based, but 2,200 km away in Silchar, Assam at the Court of Civil Judge by Kishorendu Gupta,the first plaintiff, reportedly operating Gupta Electrical Engineers in a Silchar suburb, and IIPM, the second plaintiff.

According to a statement put on its website by The Caravan, “Kishorendu Gupta is a commissioned agent who works for IIPM on a contractual basis. Although Gupta is called a counsellor, a contract between Gupta and IIPM shows Gupta is a recruitment agent who has commercial interest and is paid for his service on a commission basis. IIPM’s contract with Gupta states: ‘for number of students enrolled between 1 to 24, the compensation would be 75,000 per student …[and] for anyone who crosses the 25 students mark, the compensation would be 90,000 per student…[and] for anyone who crosses the 50 student mark, the compensation would be 1,25,000 per student” (From the agreement submitted by the plaintiffs in the court).’[96]”

The Caravan has said its parent company Delhi Press will fight the case and publish the updates in its 30 magazines in nine languages, which together have a readership of over 30 million people.

The article in its entirety can be seen on * | True Story : Arindam Chaudhuri

IIPM has earlier too filed similar lawsuits against certain other publishers, also in Silchar, Assam. The case against Rashmi Bansal, a blogger and editor of Just Another Magazine (JAM), in 2005 and Careers360 magazine, published by Maheshwar Peri (both mentioned above). The cases against Rashmi Bansal and Careers360 are both still underway at the Silchar courts. "

Conflict of interest suspected

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List of Indian engineering college rankings

Hi Utcursch, I noticed that you PRODed the page List of Indian engineering college rankings. The page had been AfDed before (by me, ironically), and I recall having seen somewhere that a previous AfD disqualifies the article from a PROD. In any case, I based the article on the FL List_of_United_States_graduate_business_school_rankings (after rgpk's comment in the previous AfD). I don't think it can be classified as a copyvio, but of course, I'm open to discussion! Lynch7 11:13, 9 July 2011 (UTC)

Fair enough. utcursch | talk 11:57, 9 July 2011 (UTC)

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Re Narendra Dhar Jayal

Hi Utcursch,

You added in Jun 2010 Nandu Jayal's name to Scindia School alumni category. He is from Doon school. No mention in my refs or in our Corps archive mentions Scindia school. Do you have a ref for this? AshLin (talk) 16:58, 12 July 2011 (UTC)

Thanks, have done the needfful. AshLin (talk) 18:39, 12 July 2011 (UTC)

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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Anders Behring Breivik

It was improper to close the AfD after only 2 hours while emotions were running high so soon after the event. There were reasonable objections to keeping the article and the discussion was far from unanimous therefore calling SNOW was improper. The AfD should have been allowed to run its full term. The process was ignored and the discussion was ended prematurely. ShipFan (talk) 15:52, 23 July 2011 (UTC)

I disagree and commend you for your closing statement. Interested editors ought to move on to improving the group of articles. The Breivik article could be nominated for deletion again after some time has passed. However, I very much doubt that there will ever be consensus to delete this article. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 16:35, 23 July 2011 (UTC)

I too support your closing. Your closing statement did raise an interesting question for me regarding whether WP:BLP1E is a policy or a guideline (it reads like the latter but the page implies the former without making either explicit). I have started a discussion about this at Wikipedia talk:Biographies of living persons#Policy and/or guideline in which you might like to participate. Thryduulf (talk) 17:09, 23 July 2011 (UTC)

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Re. closure of Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Anders Behring Breivik

WP:BLP1E is not a guideline, as you state - it's policy.  Chzz  ►  18:12, 23 July 2011 (UTC)

WP:BLP is certainly a policy, but WP:BLP1E is more of a guideline. utcursch | talk 18:17, 23 July 2011 (UTC)

I really do not understand that response. The shortcut "WP:BLP1E" points to a section on a page which is a policy. It's policy, surely? It's part of "Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons". If it isn't policy, then I'm totally misunderstanding something, somewhere.  Chzz  ►  19:58, 23 July 2011 (UTC)

WP:BLP states what should be done while dealing with BLPs - NPOV, Verifiability and NOR. WP:BLP1E doesn't enforce anything – it uses words like "generally avoid having an article", "usually better to merge", "a separate biography may be appropriate", "may support the notability". utcursch | talk 20:31, 23 July 2011 (UTC)

Are you still disputing whether or not BLP1E is policy?  Chzz  ►  20:39, 23 July 2011 (UTC)

Yes, if by "policy" you mean a rule that has to be followed religiously as per the general community consensus. The only part of the page WP:BLP that has generally been accepted as a "policy" is the one listed at Wikipedia:List of policies#Content: "Unsourced or poorly sourced contentious material—whether negative, positive, or just questionable—about living persons should be removed immediately and without discussion from Wikipedia articles, talk pages, user pages, and project space."

WP:BLP1E is not a policy in that sense -- it's essentially a notability guideline listed on a policy page. It was simply added to the page in 2007 as a part of an argument originally made by Uncle G. utcursch | talk 20:59, 23 July 2011 (UTC)

Just for the record, I agree with how Utcursch is describing BLP1E (although, the SNOW closure was a bit uncalled for). The whole section of that policy is written in ambivalent language, purposefully so. It's guidance on how to apply the BLP policy within a narrow class of articles. It was written that way from the beginning, and my feeling is that the vast majority of editors (especially those who normally edit in the current events area) hold similar views.
— V = IR (Talk • Contribs) 01:15, 24 July 2011 (UTC)

As the closer of the AfD, you might want to know that you have been overruled without discussion by User:ErrantX, the article protected, and a case has been opened in AN/I here. In addition, I have requested unprotection of the article Wikipedia:Requests_for_page_protection#Anders_Behring_Breivik.--Cerejota (talk) 23:19, 23 July 2011 (UTC)

I see that ErrantX's changes has been reverted. Things seem stable now. utcursch | talk 04:27, 24 July 2011 (UTC)

विशिष्ट सदस्यता

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Western Punjabi

Hello. I would like to ask you what your sources are for this and this change. You make a distinction between Western Punjabi and [Eastern] Punjabi as spoken in Pakistan. I, as member of the Language committee have approved a Western Punjabi Wikipedia a few years ago. I read concerns about the correctness of the Western Punjabi Wikipedia (by the way, are you the person who wrote it?). I have no relation with the language, but I investigated it thoroughly and as far as I can see "Western Punjabi" refers to the Punjabi language as spoken in Pakistan, which is only slightly different from Punjabi as spoken in India. Thinking logically, it would be strange if there was a language of 60 million speakers with only such a small article that is Western Punjabi (with only a few articles on other language Wikipedias). Furthermore, the Ethnologue map shows only one Punjabi area in Pakistan, labelled "Western Punjabi". So, could you explain why you made a distinction between Western Punjabi and Punjabi as spoken in Pakistan? It is of course possible that I am wrong, but I doubt it. Thank you, SPQRobin (talk) 13:15, 25 July 2011 (UTC)

These zones are not strict categorisations. Punjabi-Lahnda is a dialect continuum where Ethnologue has drawn the line on the Pakistani-Indian border (Punjabi (pan) does not even mention speakers in Pakistan), whereas this map draws the line of the zones more to the west. Ethnologue often has strange categorisations. SPQRobin (talk) 13:47, 25 July 2011 (UTC)

So it appears that what Ethnologue designates as "Western Punjabi"-speaking area, is classified by Grierson and others as "Eastern Punjabi" area. The article on Western Punjabi needs clarification because the infobox refers to the Ethnologue classification, but the article content is mainly about the Grierson classification... SPQRobin (talk) 15:07, 25 July 2011 (UTC)

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What's up Utcursch? Long time no see. I turn to you in regard to the Helen (actress) page, because you have already been involved with its move in the past and now someone once again moved it without starting any discussion. I also cannot really understand where the middle family name "Jairag" comes from. I see that the redirect has not turned into any disambiguation page and is now even proposed for deletion. Shahid • ^Talk2me 09:05, 1 August 2011 (UTC)

Hi, since this article has involved several move disputes till now, I think it'd be a good idea to discuss a requested move (similar to Talk:Mahabharata#Move_back). It'd settle the matter for once and all. utcursch | talk 11:55, 3 August 2011 (UTC)

Because the move happened without any proper discussion, and the redirect page is just an empty page, I've moved it back. I've started a new talk page discussion, you can take part in it. Shahid • ^Talk2me 21:08, 5 August 2011 (UTC)

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Hi. I was looking at Cry Baby Lane and noticed that you were the one who added the reference for "Exploring America's Highways: Minnesota Trip Trivia." Would you mind explaining to me how in the world a guidebook to Minnesota highways would have any information at all about this film (and apparently the specific information that a presumably non-notable actress portrayed the part of "Ann Weber")? While I'm not accusing you of making up the ref or anything, you have to admit it looks pretty strange. Thanks for clarifying. Theoldsparkle (talk) 17:08, 19 August 2011 (UTC)

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Can you take a look at this? It looks like multiple topics have been combined into one. cheers. —SpacemanSpiff 12:37, 21 August 2011 (UTC)

Yadav vs Yadava

Hi, SpacemanSpiff has mentioned your name in the past re: knowledge of caste-related articles etc. I have a bit of a problem at Yadav regarding Bill clinton history & wonder if you can shed any light.

The gist is that Bch keeps inserting information into the article about old Yadava dynasties from the 14th century and earlier (Devagiri etc). Despite being asked on numerous occasions, Bch has never yet been able to provide a reliable source which confirms that these old Yadava communities are connected to the modern Yadav community. On the other hand, I have found clear-cut sources which say that the connection was a concoction made around the time that sankritisation appeared as a movement and that the support for the theory has been promoted pretty much entirely by Yadavs themselves.

Do you know anything about this? I am not sure if Bch is simply being POV-y or if they are struggling to understand what is required if such statements are to stay in the article. Even the RS that have been provided by Bch seem to go no further than "it is possible but unlikely" or "Yadavs claim ..." - both of which are already dealt with at a general level in the article. Could it be that I & others are not getting our point across very well? Whatever it is, the disruption is holding up some intended improvements & so some sort of resolution is needed. I have previously mentioned this to EdJohnston because they blocked Bch for edit warring recently, but I think that this really needs some specialist input, ie: someone who knows a bit about the caste system etc. - Sitush (talk) 16:29, 21 August 2011 (UTC)

I have seen your message at Talk:Yadav. Thanks for your comments. We'll see if Bch agrees or not. I suspect it will be the latter, but hey-ho we can but try. - Sitush (talk) 17:18, 21 August 2011 (UTC)

I would like to question from Sitush Sitush and Atmaram, to provide evidence of his surname, if he is actually what his family surname actually means in the mythological books of india. before asking non-sensical questions related to old vs mordern yadav. In Yadav page, individuals are putting info along with citations, as and when requested. then why the whole yadav page is getting changed completely after every few months.. with same two opposite info..one related old with modern, second denying the same..no body want to discuss anything, and one fine day, whole page is getting erased. Come to senses otherwise I will raise the issue with Wikipedia to block all those who are deleting the content with out proper arbitation. Whom you want to fool, every single line will be extracted from database and produced as evidence..where you and your gang of fellas simply deleted something from yadav page, without proper citation request and followup. you never go and ask such questions from any other caste/religion groups of indian history. this clearly shows why you are here and working on wikipedia with wrong intentions. In india, not even court asks about history of any caste for ascertainly the caste identity. Any one is allowed to use any title, nothing can be confirmed about any caste in india from historical point of view. Putting questions only on some targeted castes is highly objectionable, and this may lead to formal arrest as cyber crime. within wiki laws.. 122.161.65.94 (talk) 19:42, 23 September 2011 (UTC)

This has already been discussed at Talk:Yadav and other pages multiple times. The article already contains enough citations about the ancient Yadavas vs. the modern ones who claim descent from them. Also see Wikipedia:No legal threats. Questioning fake references and claims is not a cyber crime, threatening others is. utcursch | talk 20:06, 23 September 2011 (UTC)

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Could you possibly weigh in at User_talk:Sodabottle#Translation_assistance? Sodabottle passed me on to SpacemanSpiff, who has suggested that you are the best person to look at the issue. Thanks. - Sitush (talk) 13:42, 8 September 2011 (UTC)

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Yadav

You may wish to comment on the recent insert/revert cycle at Yadav. - Sitush (talk) 10:17, 18 September 2011 (UTC)

Thank you for your recent comments regarding myself, which have spun off from the message above. I am indeed far from perfect but, yes, I am trying to get closer to that ideal. Forget the admin role and the policies, if ever you spot me doing something that is "wrong" then I would be pleased to know about it. There would not be an argument & somewhere along the line it would probably help me in dealing with what is sometimes a frustrating area in terms of user interaction. If my frustration is perceived to be causing me to push the boundaries of what is acceptable behaviour then I need to fix that issue. Although to a lesser extent than MatthewVanitas, you are right in thinking that this topic is a rather thankless area to work in. But I live in hope and, for example, Paravar and Nair have both pretty much calmed down. - Sitush (talk) 00:50, 24 September 2011 (UTC)

Ganugabanda

Hi Utcursch. Seems that great minds think alike: I just got an edit conflict while trying to write exactly the same as you did when you cleaned up that article. Cheers, De728631 (talk) 11:20, 18 September 2011 (UTC)

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Merge discussion for Begum of Bhopal

An article that you have been involved in editing, Begum of Bhopal , has been proposed for a merge with another article. If you are interested in the merge discussion, please participate by going here, and adding your comments on the discussion page. Thank you. Ratibgreat (talk) 11:25, 23 September 2011 (UTC) Ratibgreat (talk) 11:25, 23 September 2011 (UTC)

Proposed major re-org at Mukkulathor

Greetings, based on your recent participation in the article, I'd like to invite you to: Talk:Mukkulathor#Suggest_major_reorganisation_of_the_article. Thanks for your input! MatthewVanitas (talk) 13:43, 23 September 2011 (UTC)

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help with deletion

Can you help nominate the article Nedumpally for deletion. I tried but failed. some technical issues.117.201.246.23 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 13:43, 2 October 2011 (UTC).

I don't really think it should be deleted. Probably, merged with another article on Christians in Kerala. You can nominate an article for deletion after you create an account. utcursch | talk 16:02, 2 October 2011 (UTC)

Yadav merge discussion

It seems from your latest post at Talk:Yadav that you may not have spotted the merge discussion at Talk:Yadava. FWIW, I agree with your summary. - Sitush (talk) 09:56, 5 October 2011 (UTC)

Khatri Page..

Utcursch - I understand you are trying to clean up information on the Khatri page, but in so doing, you have actually removed information that has citations. You have clearly quote fished (i.e. saying Khatris are mercantile businessmen). In actuality, Khatris are business men (i agree), but they are also are administrators, civil servants, govt officials, military leaders, etc etc. throughout Indian history. It clearly says all of this in the book by Rose, yet you removed the information from the page since you only read the sentence where it said mercantile business. The page should stay as is, and I will add citations, but give me some time.... KhatriNYC3 (talk) 23:51, 5 October 2011 (UTC)

How is it that you are adding a picture and a description "The Sodhi and Bedi clans of the Khatris derive their lineage..." without providing any resources from where the image comes from? Who do you think you are changing the Khatri page, and then removing my changes? KhatriNYC3 (talk) 15:48, 6 October 2011 (UTC)

Any reason why you deleting Raj Kapoor and Karena Kapoor's images from the Khatri page? What other Indian communities claim these two people to be their own? What other communities do you know have Kapoor as their last name? Please explain... KhatriNYC3 (talk) 16:43, 17 October 2011 (UTC)

I didn't remove those images from the article. But I presume that the editors who removed them, did it because there's no reliable source which says that they're Khatris. utcursch | talk 18:04, 17 October 2011 (UTC)

Actually, you did remove them, and in your removal comments (if you look at the history of changes on the Khatri page, you said something to the effect that "other communities claim Kapoors as their own". So I ask you, which other Indian communities claim Kapoor's as their own?? KhatriNYC3 (talk) 16:16, 18 October 2011 (UTC)

Can you please provide the diff? utcursch | talk 02:41, 19 October 2011 (UTC)

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An Invitation to Assamese Wikipedia Community

An Inspiring Person Award

You have been a greatly inspiring in your activities. You were one of the persons who inspired me when I joined Wikipedia. We have decided to take it one step further and with the experience we have gained from working in English wikipedia, started our own Assamese language Wikipedia, (http://as.wikipedia.org). We also have a facebook discussion page in https://www.facebook.com/groups/assamwikigroup/, where we discuss issues related to Assamese wikipedia, mostly in English. Hope you will take out some time out from your busy schedule and will help us with your experience and insight, in building the Assamese Wikipedia, also. Psneog (talk) 09:02, 8 October 2011 (UTC)

This is great! Congratulations on the start of new Assamese Wikipedia. utcursch | talk 12:22, 8 October 2011 (UTC)

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Lord Angus Fairchild

Since the PROD tag was removed without explanation, I have nominated this article for deletion; please see the discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Lord Angus Fairchild. Yunshui (talk) 13:33, 11 October 2011 (UTC)

Hi thank you, didn't realize i created a new article, will soon provide references and make it fine. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nikita.agarwal (talk • contribs) 19:08, 13 October 2011 (UTC)

Refimprove above lead?

Hi. With this edit, {{Refimprove}} was moved from the top of the page to a less prominent section. My understanding is that Template messages/Sources of articles are usually placed above the lead. (This is not necessarily the case with Template messages/Section, of course.) What do you think? Thanks. --Trevj (talk) 09:12, 14 October 2011 (UTC)

I place {{refimprove}} in the lead when very few references are present, and in the References section when there are more than 5-6 references present. The above article already had 7 references (not bad, given its size), so I moved the template to the end. utcursch | talk 09:15, 14 October 2011 (UTC)

Ah, I see. OK - I'll fully understand if you revert my latest change and refer here if you wish. What seems to be missing at Template messages/Sources of articles is a 'Where it goes' column, like at Template messages/Maintenance. Its absence perhaps indicates no firm policy. --Trevj (talk) 06:29, 16 October 2011 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks again for refining my reference tags in the article Animation studio--Jinchurikidan (talk) 16:49, 14 October 2011 (UTC)

Wikimedia Stories Project

Hello,

My name is Victor Grigas, and I'm a storyteller at the Wikimedia foundation. We're telling stories of Wikipedia users, editors, donors, programmers and staff to paint a picture of who uses Wikipedia - for the 2011 fundraiser.

I am in the process of planning a trip to India to gather stories from Indian Wikipedians in face-to-face interviews (possibly on video).

My primary goal is to conduct 15-20 interviews, and hopefully enough of my interviews will make compelling stories that will effectively solicit donations from the public. These stories may also be used for other communication purposes by the foundation.

I found your userpage on a list of prolific Wikipedians and thought I’d reach out to you. Prolific editing is always a good story to tell!

If you are interested in participating, please contact me via my email:

vgrigas@wikimedia.org

Thank you for your time!

Victor

About me: I have been a Wikipedia editor since 2005, and have a background in film, video and audio. My userpage can be found here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Victorgrigas

Thank you!

Thank you for improving the Robinson Crusoe economy page! Really nice of you! Regards Abhilasha369 (talk) 03:46, 16 October 2011 (UTC)

Please help with on attacks on Yadav page

Need your attention on Yadav page. Some people are deliberately writing wrong stuff to demean the community by presenting only negative stuff. pics posted are taken from flicker which is not a genuine source.There are so many positive things and pics of great Yadav Kings and leaders which has been deleted time n again. All positive content is being removed — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rockstar1984 (talk • contribs) 18:52, 17 October 2011 (UTC)

Please see the talk page -- the discussions are already going on. utcursch | talk 04:52, 18 October 2011 (UTC)

Citations

Hi Utcarsch , please see my note for you here . CheersIntothefire (talk) 14:52, 18 October 2011 (UTC)

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Unreliable circular references

A while back your edits removing Gyan publishing books showed up on my watchlist. Just wanted to check with you if we maintain a log of references that are unreliable due to circular referencing, where I can find it. Zuggernaut (talk) 02:09, 9 November 2011 (UTC)

I don't really maintain a log as such. The discussion on Gyan etc. is archived at 1, 2, 3. I guess we should maintain a list somewhere, though. utcursch | talk 03:54, 9 November 2011 (UTC)

A list is what I meant. Thanks. Zuggernaut (talk) 04:52, 9 November 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Dost Mohammad Khan, Nawab of Bhopal

Materialscientist (talk) 12:02, 13 November 2011 (UTC)

Arora page

Hi there, a user has deleted more then 25 citations from the Arora page without discussion. Can you please check it out if you have the time. His user name is user:Sitush.If you could look at the history of the page before and after his edits, almost everything was removed.

Thanks a bunch Jokesshift (talk) 08:48, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

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