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Quick Question

Hey, so about a year or so ago I got banned from the wikipedia discord. I am not entirely sure why I got banned, a bot didn't DM me with the reason. I assume it had to do with some threads I made on the server beforehand (one of them I wasn't planning on restarting, some other user did). Is this reasoning correct? And if so am I able to appeal? Please let me know. Thanks!

WeaponizingArchitecture | talk to me 18:22, 9 June 2022 (UTC)

@WeaponizingArchitecture You were banned for spamming and abusing threads right after the feature was enabled, after being told not to by moderators. @Seddon, thoughts? -- ferret (talk) 19:57, 9 June 2022 (UTC)

Yeah, my thought process at the time was “no other server im in enabled threads yet so lets test them here”. Why I couldn’t make a new server for that at the time I have 0 clue, I have a hard time understanding my thought processes back in, say 2021, so I can’t stress enough that it was pretty stupid. WeaponizingArchitecture | talk to me 05:00, 10 June 2022 (UTC)

@WeaponizingArchitecture Please explain how you'll utilize the server going forward, and why your previous behavior resulted in a ban. I'd also like you to address the G10 attack page and "pee" message you made against friends back in January, and your block from Commons (expiring tomorrow). Do you understand why these behaviors are problematic? -- ferret (talk) 20:17, 9 June 2022 (UTC)

Aight, im gonna start this with 2 things:

1: what is this “G10” thingy. I think it’s worth noting that I am very busy and am still adjusting from Quarantine a bit, so sorry if my memory doesn’t reach far back,

2: I sent the “pee” message as a stupid gag to showcase a “funny” image i made (wikipe-tan funny face swap thingy). “Pee” was a placeholder.

Finally yes i get that it’s problematic. I think everyone has made it clear to me by now. I want to utilize the server mainly to ask questions and/or discuss stuff about the wiki. I’ve tried to learn from a lot of my past mistakes.

WeaponizingArchitecture | talk to me 05:04, 10 June 2022 (UTC)

@WeaponizingArchitecture I'll unban, but understand you'll be on thin ice. Please stick to the server's purpose and try to avoid gags and excessive short messages. -- ferret (talk) 14:15, 10 June 2022 (UTC)

Aight, sounds good. WeaponizingArchitecture | talk to me 15:13, 10 June 2022 (UTC)

Sorry...

Hello, I hope you're doing well. I am sorry for my actions on the Discord Wikipedia page and talk page. This is my formal apology to you. The conversation between us has gotten a bit heated and I wanted to apologize. I am not quite a person that takes my work being literally wiped off easily as in school(highschool) I tend to defend my work vigorously from copying, critique, suggestions not from teammates, etc. It was pretty late at night and I wanted to make a quick Wikipedia edit so I can claim to my friends I didn't just do nothing over this summer break. So, I just cobbled some sources together and edited it and called it a day. I have sort-of, figured out how to exactly edit Wikipedia via source code edit. But I still hate it as it feels like I'm writing critical code essential to humanity's survival. Anyways I am still obviously new, and I am a teenager trying to figure out the world and help it. And editing Wikipedia was one of them I found. But being a teenager means that I am going through puberty and emotional develop, I am not in the best state of mind right now, as I've lost a best friend but I've come to cope by editing Wikipedia. I am also sorry to call on you to be more open to newcomers, which I believe you are very busy with your life as an adult, and a highly important Wikipedia adim/editor. I was pretty pissed in the moment then but now I've cooled down mostly. So I came to your talk page to apologize for my actions. I hope we can repair our "relationship" as Wikipedia editors. Have a good day or night! --Randomdudewithinternet (talk) 03:52, 26 June 2022 (UTC)

A cookie for you!

A cookie for one of Wikipedia’s arguably finest administrator 100000tro (talk) 02:11, 28 June 2022 (UTC)

Continued disruptive editing by User talk:212.115.224.254

Hi there, ferret. The above user just seems to don't mind any reverts made to their edits and just keeps on adding incorrect release dates for soundtrack albums without any summary or sources whatsoever. I saw that you'd already posted a message on their talk page regarding that but their most recent edit still goes back to yesterday adding more incorrect information. Could you please take a look and block him? thank you. paperpseudonym (talk) 11:24, 30 June 2022 (UTC)

Jinjer

Hello. Ukrainian name is Dmytro, Dmitriy the Russian name. You do not speak Ukrainian, but you make changes that affect Ukrainian names. Why are you doing this?--Zubryckiy (talk) 10:43, 28 June 2022 (UTC)

@Zubryckiy I'm well aware of the Ukrainian spelling of his name. The problem is that on Wikipedia, we go by commonly used name in sources, especially in the case of celebrities who made use a stage or professional name. The name they are most known by, or represent themselves as. The last time someone was trying to change these names, I could find no secondary sources that used the Ukrainian spelling to back the change. But more importantly, Dmytro's own social media pages used Dmitriy. His Facbeook page, Twitter, etc, still used Dmitriy. When the individual themselves is presenting themselves as a particular spelling as their professional name, we will not change the spelling. If this has changed, please provide evidence on the article's talk page so we can form a consensus. -- ferret (talk) 13:16, 28 June 2022 (UTC)

I see you know absolutely nothing about Ukraine. In everyday life, Dmytro/Dmitriy calls himself Dima, and everyone calls him that too. Dmytro is an official name that is used only sometimes, for documents. And why then Dmitriy and not Dmitry as in Twitter?--Zubryckiy (talk) 09:51, 5 July 2022 (UTC)

Privacy

I recently read that IPs can be used to find out your location. Can you please hide all proof of my IP editing on talk pages? There should be only 2 edits to hide. Including signature. Thanks a ton! -- L10nM4st3r _(talk) 08:18, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

@L10nM4st3r If you have made edits where you were accidently logged out and they could easily be tied to you, you can email me the edits in question and I'll take a look. You'll have to identify them to me, I cannot search them out myself as it would not be a proper use of my permissions. If you made the edit in a way that no one would guess that the IP was you, I wouldn't worry about it. -- ferret (talk) 13:17, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

I sadly don't have email.. But User:Mrjulesd knows my IP, and if he has email you could get it from him (he's an admin on wikibooks). If not, there might be no other way to secretly tell you. A last resort is I tell you publicly, but you'll need to revert and hide the edit as soon as possible. I have no other ideas. -- L10nM4st3r _(talk) 13:46, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

@Mrjulesd: can you email ferret my IP, if you remember? Thanks. -- L10nM4st3r _(talk) 13:51, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

Ok, never mind. He hasn't been active for a week. I got no clue how to do this.. Ping me and I will logout and make an edit as an IP here, unless you tell me not too. (Though it's friday, so you'll need to be fast or I'll be watching a movie with my parents first.) -- L10nM4st3r _(talk) 18:45, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

You know the article I edited a lot and helped to trim, it's the talkpage of that one. -- L10nM4st3r _(talk) 14:17, 13 July 2022 (UTC)

 Done -- ferret (talk) 14:27, 13 July 2022 (UTC)

When I went to the page, I acctually thought I made a mistake, so I checked my watchlist, and saw you replied. Thanks! I feel much more relaxed now :) -- L10nM4st3r _(talk) 14:34, 13 July 2022 (UTC)

Steam Deck edit

Hi, I would appreciate your input here: Talk:Steam_Deck#"no_low-level_access"_unsupported_by_the_source <Karlww (contribs|talk) 17:44, 13 July 2022 (UTC)

Oculus Quest & Quest 2 mentions in video game infoboxes & Amazon Luna release dates

Hi, articles such as Blair Witch include a listing of Oculus Quest and Quest 2 platforms and release dates. The Quest, unlike the Rift, doesn't need to conform to the "Windows, not Steam or Oculus Rift" infobox video game rule because it doesn't require a Windows system in order to be played. Should the listings for Quest & Quest 2 be kept in the infobox or should they be removed in favor of Windows? Additionally, I have started editing in Amazon Luna release dates into several pages as, but many of these games were made available during the Luna's own "early access" phase before its complete launch to the general public in March 2022. Can I still write in the days they were made available for the platform? Venky64 (talk) 14:47, 14 July 2022 (UTC)

@Venky64 I think this question is best posed towards WT:VG. These are good questions, but the broader project's input would be best. -- ferret (talk) 15:13, 14 July 2022 (UTC)

apology

Hello. I have been meaning to do this since a few weeks (maybe months now), but I didn't get the time. A few years ago, you and me were in a pickle, and I behaved very rudely. I said some things that I shouldnt have said. Since then, you and me haven't interacted directly, but I have seen your activity and it has made me respect you. Looking back, I feel bad for my behaviour, and for what it may have made you feel. What I want to say is, I am sorry for my behaviour, and I hope you accept my apology. —usernamekiran (talk) 13:44, 13 July 2022 (UTC)

-- ferret (talk) 13:57, 13 July 2022 (UTC)

erm... —usernamekiran (talk) 16:55, 13 July 2022 (UTC)

I am not sure what you would like above an acknowledgement. -- ferret (talk) 17:02, 13 July 2022 (UTC)

something along the lines "its okay", "i am still angry", "no hard feelings", or something like that? —usernamekiran (talk) 18:36, 13 July 2022 (UTC)

I think it's good you recognize the issues from all those years ago, but I'm not really going to forget the circumstances around it. I was never 'angry' about it. You did some inappropriate things, and you were warned for them. -- ferret (talk) 18:51, 13 July 2022 (UTC)

how dare you not accept my apology the way I demand you accept it. Heathen. PRAXIDICAE🌈 18:57, 13 July 2022 (UTC)

I always thought it was exaggerated. But anyways, I am glad things arent sore between us anymore :-) see you around —usernamekiran (talk) 01:59, 14 July 2022 (UTC)

Replying that you always thought the circumstances and warnings were exaggerated doesn't really add any weight to your apology. -- ferret (talk) 12:42, 14 July 2022 (UTC)

I honestly feel bad, and honestly am sorry for the way said things to you. I dont have any other reason/benefit to apologise out of the blue now. —usernamekiran (talk) 16:06, 14 July 2022 (UTC)

Help updating Chris Weaver article

Hi Ferret. I see you’re a member of WikiProject Video Games, and have worked on the article for developer Christopher Weaver. I made a few suggestions to improve the quality of the article, but since I have a conflict of interest I didn’t want to edit the article directly. Are you able to take a look at the requests? They’re listed here: Talk:Christopher_Weaver#Help_with_Updates. Thanks.Ringside44 (talk) 14:23, 15 July 2022 (UTC)

My standard decline--

Three simple requirements, rarely if ever met. Honestly, I've had more constructive discussion with my wall than with some of them. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 00:04, 17 July 2022 (UTC)

@Deepfriedokra That went downhill quick lol. -- ferret (talk) 01:17, 17 July 2022 (UTC)

AGF

Hi! Recently you reverted and edit by a non user. This is what I'm referring to: edit. It's really easy to press the revert button, but it takes more effort to fix it. This user probably wasn't aware of the templates limitations and was just trying to help. Your revert discourages people to edit the wikipedia. Please next time, take the 2 minutes it takes to explain to the user on the proper way to edit the wikipedia. If you dont have the time, WP:Twinkle has an addition to welcome new users. Be kind and Assume good faith, please. I mostly have beef on the fact you reverted it and didn't inform them on their talk page. You're and admin. Dillard421♂♂ ^{(talk to me)} 10:48, 17 July 2022 (UTC)

You're kidding, right? Special:Contributions/2603:9000:A400:12:0:0:0:0/64 is not a new editor and has been editing this space for years. It's not the first time I've reverted them, nor will it be the last. If they have questions about the revert, they'll ask. This also was a later revert of nearly a dozen. The first few reverts, I stated it was due to the infobox documentation. I think you also don't understand how difficult it is to communicate with IPv6 editors since they change IPs so frequently they will never see the talk page messages. They've already switched IPs 3 times, and had already done so by the time I reverted the Kex edits. I don't get where you come in here about assuming good faith, as I never accused or suggested any bad faith in the least. Seems you might be failing AGF a little yourself. -- ferret (talk) 12:41, 17 July 2022 (UTC)

I've just realized you went back and told them incorrect information about why this was reverted. It isn't reverted because the field is unsupported. It's reverted because the template documentation specifies that only notable engines with an article should be used in the infobox. That's why my edit summary was "Non-notable engine" rather than "Invalid template syntax". -- ferret (talk) 13:14, 17 July 2022 (UTC)

Nintendo DS

Hello, Ferret, I hope you have been well. I have spent the last month or so in exile, attempting to learn more about the editing process of Wikipedia, specifically what constitutes a constructive, positive edit, and what is not. I have discovered a lot of new tools, methods, and guidelines and regulations, which now allow me a better understanding of this site and its purpose. I have reviewed my past edits on the Nintendo DS article, and I'm genuinely sorry for being so stubborn, rude and arrogant, not only with the content of my edits, but specifically with the summaries provided with them. I'm truly surprised that I wasn't permanently banned, at least from editing. But I'm very grateful that I wasn't, because between you and Serge, rather feeling punished and ridiculed for my mistakes, I felt I had an opportunity to learn and grow, and I wanted to take that step. I was given a place to start, something to go off of, and I now feel I at least have a better understanding than when I started. With this understanding, I attempted to make a better edit of the Nintendo DS article, fixing the broken CS1 references I had added, citing WP:MOS and cleaning up the article, and reviewing the talk page for any signs of activity or discussion. By taking all of these steps, I feel that I have genuinely written a better edit, and it is all thanks to you and Serge. I can clearly read that you don't always love to see these kinds of messages, but I just thought it may benefit you to know that I'm on the right path because of your guidance. — Preceding unsigned comment added by WhichUserAmI (talk • contribs) 01:48, 22 July 2022 (UTC)

Prior to you posting to my talk page, I was already reviewing the DS edit and partially reverting it for reasons you were probably not aware of. First and foremost, CS1 errors should be fixed by correcting the citation template, not by removing the reference entirely. This leaves statements unsourced. Secondly, and you wouldn't know this if you hadn't seen someone else talk about it before, Statistica is an unreliable tieriary source. Statistica pulls their information from Wikipedia and many other sites that are considered unreliable due to WP:USERG or consensus. For example, they regularly use VGChartz for video game sales figures, which has been deemed unreliable for over a decade. They also use GameFAQs which is unreliable, etc. And it's difficult to detect this as they now require you to have a paid account to see their sourcing. -- ferret (talk) 01:55, 22 July 2022 (UTC)

sock

]https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/35.143.190.63[ after been blocked opened a sock account ]https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Patrickmstumph[. Check contributions and verify Uricdivine (talk) 01:08, 25 July 2022 (UTC)

Already handled by Girth Summit. -- ferret (talk) 12:52, 25 July 2022 (UTC)

Casual

Just wanna know that how can I create my own article even if I'm not an expert. 202.160.174.117 (talk) 19:23, 18 August 2022 (UTC)

Question

What does CIR mean? Ryan Miller 2 (talk) 00:09, 21 August 2022 (UTC)

WP:CIR, "competence is required". In a nutshell, it refers to cases where editors, despite having good faith, fail to understand the proper way to edit and cause disruption as a result, generally after attempts have been made to education them on the issue. -- ferret (talk) 00:52, 21 August 2022 (UTC)

Or repeatedly socking, as this case was. -- ferret (talk) 01:10, 21 August 2022 (UTC)

Plot summary socks

I'm pretty sure SomeoneElseMightGetItWrong and Horsesizedduck are the same person, but I don't see anyone else doing "trims" in video game articles. I was wondering if you recognized this. If not, I figured I'd probably just let it go. I honestly don't really care if people use multiple accounts to copy edit plot summaries. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 04:06, 22 August 2022 (UTC)

@NinjaRobotPirate Both accounts have indeed caught my eye before on my watchlist but I did not have any sort of master in mind and plot trimming is certainly needed. I have not dug deeper and did not find or notice any cross editing I felt warranted or gave evidence of more. I had not considered them possibly the same, but activity periods certainly have an interesting overlap. -- ferret (talk) 13:16, 22 August 2022 (UTC)

discord question

Sorry to bother you, I think I (same username in both) was banned from the wikipedia discord? Can I ask why? Tttmaker (talk) 23:04, 25 August 2022 (UTC)

SPIs and Harry Potter

Thanks for your help with the two SPIs. Did you watch the Harry Potter film series? (Yeah, I know, this comes out of nowhere.)--Bbb23 (talk) 00:26, 31 August 2022 (UTC)

@Bbb23 I have, though mostly the earlier ones have stuck with me. -- ferret (talk) 00:46, 31 August 2022 (UTC)

Do you remember Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire where the fake Professor Moody turns Malfoy into a ferret? Was that one of yours? :p --Bbb23 (talk) 00:49, 31 August 2022 (UTC)

@Bbb23 "What are you doing?" "Teaching." -- ferret (talk) 00:56, 31 August 2022 (UTC)

"Moody, we never use transfiguration as a punishment. Surely Professor Dumbledore told you that." "He might've mentioned it." Honestly, for an evil death eater, the fake Moody was quite sympathetic, although that tongue mannerism when he got low on polyjuice potion was a bit much.--Bbb23 (talk) 01:44, 31 August 2022 (UTC)

Possible undisclosed paid editing/sockpuppet

I noticed that Royal Match had been PRODded for being spammy. The creator User:LittleNirvana had flatly denied any sort of paid editing, but the article lacks sources and seems like an advertisement. Dream Games, the developers, had been sent to deletion review by User:H5r2n, who is a WP:SPI. Weirdly LittleNirvana also participated in the review endorsing the deletion, but created the Royal Match page a couple days later. Uploading images with permission from the developer no less, which suggests that they are in fact employed by Dream Games also. It seems they may be using multiple accounts to avoid looking too much like advertising. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 07:44, 4 September 2022 (UTC)

@Zxcvbnm No apparent technical relationship, different continents. Sorry20 was also involved in Dream Games, if you want to pursue from a pure UPE angle. I'd agree there's potential UPE here, just no CU relationship between this set of users. -- ferret (talk) 15:18, 4 September 2022 (UTC)

Well at the very least I asked for more information on their page because it could be a case of just a misunderstanding. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 16:24, 4 September 2022 (UTC)

Kiwifarms URL

I have started a discussion on the VDARE and Right Stuff blog talks saying I think the url should be excised. Since that's relevant to the current Kiwifarms discussion and were mentioned would it be okay if I left a message on the Kiwi Farms discussion saying I started those ones and that people can chip in? Don't think it'd be canvassing since I wouldn't tell people to take a stance but idk cos it was already mentioned. Not tryna canvas though. Also idk if it's self-promo Stephanie921 (talk) 21:07, 5 September 2022 (UTC)

@Stephanie921 Probably the better choice than talk page mentions or pings would be to simply leave a brief note in the Kiwi Farms discussion linking to the others. This is fine as it's been mentioned in those discussion, IMO. -- ferret (talk) 21:15, 5 September 2022 (UTC)

I think u misunderstood me - I was gonna leave a msg on the Kiwifarms discussion Stephanie921 (talk) 21:19, 5 September 2022 (UTC)

@Stephanie921 Then I was agreeing. -- ferret (talk) 21:22, 5 September 2022 (UTC)

Oh okay awesome, I just did it :) Thank you massively for ur help, you're very kind! Stephanie921 (talk) 21:26, 5 September 2022 (UTC)

Did I do it right Stephanie921 (talk) 22:08, 5 September 2022 (UTC)

Yes that's fine in my view -- ferret (talk) 22:09, 5 September 2022 (UTC)

Luvly jubbly, ty! Stephanie921 (talk) 22:47, 5 September 2022 (UTC)

Query

Hello,

I have a question I was wondering if I could ask u as an administrator:

TeeVeeed was banned from editing under the Kiwi Farms topic. Since Tee's recent vio of their ban was logged under gender and sex in the Arbitration Committee records here: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:MobileDiff/1109061667 - would this msg they sent on Talk:The Right Stuff (blog): https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:MobileDiff/1109039416 be another topic ban vio since The Right Stuff is similar to the Kiwi Farms site? Stephanie921 (talk) 20:34, 7 September 2022 (UTC)

@Stephanie921 No. The topic ban was explicitly covering Kiwi Farms, not "and other similar sites". -- ferret (talk) 21:00, 7 September 2022 (UTC)

Okay ty. I was asking since u logged it under gender and sex so I thought it might this fall under that Stephanie921 (talk) 21:10, 7 September 2022 (UTC)

Gender and Sex is the basis of the sanction, but the specific sanction put into place was a TBAN covering Kiwi Farms. -- ferret (talk) 21:15, 7 September 2022 (UTC)

Okay, ty. And I'm sorry for upsetting you Stephanie921 (talk)

on Topic of the Nexus Mods revert

So why did you revert most of the edits on the nexus mod page including it's citation & such rather than simply editing it? 24.101.82.80 (talk) 04:22, 7 September 2022 (UTC)

Simple: As I said, most of it's unnecessary or even outright wrong. The edit as a whole was not an improvement to the page. -- ferret (talk) 13:00, 7 September 2022 (UTC)

So which parts are wrong we only have alleged for what nexus mods said,among other things such as the basics of what the mod did was already baked into the game

Otherwise why use the secondary citations and not a primary one (Which I used to make this) 24.101.82.80 (talk) 23:27, 7 September 2022 (UTC)

Also if you like,we could talk on discord 24.101.82.80 (talk) 23:34, 7 September 2022 (UTC)

Wikipedia prefers secondary sources. We only use primary sources for the most basic facts that don't require any interpretation. We also don't need excessive quotes, as quotes themselves should be limited for copyright reasons. -- ferret (talk) 23:40, 7 September 2022 (UTC)

I have never heard of a quote being copyrighted to start with,but I can understand to a degree of excessive quotes,but why secondary sources over primary? 24.101.82.80 (talk) 03:42, 8 September 2022 (UTC)

WP:RS is the relevant guideline, as well as WP:PRIMARY which is policy. -- ferret (talk) 03:44, 8 September 2022 (UTC)

Urgent

Please look at this immediately and delete the revision if you wish. TW: Suicide Stephanie921 (talk) 02:03, 8 September 2022 (UTC)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:MobileDiff/1109117004 Stephanie921 (talk) 02:04, 8 September 2022 (UTC)

@Stephanie921 Already handled. As information, I watchlist every user I warn or block for a period of time. -- ferret (talk) 02:06, 8 September 2022 (UTC)

Awesome, ty for telling me. Btw, I noticed on the deletion log u said my rev was "non-contentious housekeeping". What does that mean Stephanie921 (talk) 02:21, 8 September 2022 (UTC)

Also I wasn't gravedancing, I was being genuine since SWinxy was still replying to Edaiko even though the conversation was over. I was trying to end it Stephanie921 (talk) 02:23, 8 September 2022 (UTC)

@Stephanie921 Re: REVDEL. I chose to use the "non-contentious housekeeping" label because I felt there was a valid reason to hide your edit summary, but I did not want your edit to be labelled as disruptive or vulgar. Re: Gravedancing, if you simply informed of the block it would be different, but you elaborated from there about their actions or motivations. It's very easy to get caught up in these types of debates and conflicts, especially if you have any sense of feeling like there was a "win", but it's best not to talk about them after they're blocked. Let it lie. He wasn't going to reply to SWinxy, so that would have been the end of it. -- ferret (talk) 02:26, 8 September 2022 (UTC)

I don't get ur reasoning. I elaborated on their reasoning but not in a way where I was celebrating them being defeated, I was just saying they'd been blocked. I thought saying they'd been blocked with no context would be confusing. I wasn't writing it to say I'd won, and I thought this was clear by me saying to move on rather than encouraging celebration. I don't understand how that's not simply informing of the block and I especially don't understand how that's gravedancing. I'm not upset at you I'm just sincerely confused. I was trying to say 'let it lie' with 'we should move on'

And thank you for explaining the reason for that label, I appreciate you not equating my rev with Edaiko's Stephanie921 (talk) 02:32, 8 September 2022 (UTC)

I would like u to revert your edit please with the summary acknowledging you misunderstood me, as I was not gravedancing. No need to apologise, but I don't want other people to think I was gravedancing when I wasn't Stephanie921 (talk) 02:53, 8 September 2022 (UTC)

No. Regardless of your intent, I still feel it comes across that way and is an unnecessary comment about the editor in question. It's also the second time I've mentioned gravedancing to you this week. Please stop making such comments. -- ferret (talk) 03:05, 8 September 2022 (UTC)

I wasn't gravedancing just now, so I only did it once and am not repeatedly making comments like that. You have made me feel worse even though u didn't intend to and now I'd like an apology because I'm incredibly upset Stephanie921 (talk) 03:18, 8 September 2022 (UTC)

Re: Special:Diff/1109127642. You aren't being punished. You haven't even been warned. You've been given some advice. Where you go from there is up to you. -- ferret (talk) 03:48, 8 September 2022 (UTC)

Suspicious IP user

User talk:2603:8081:506:B6B3:10A0:E452:5DB5:49D6 seems to have immediately started doing things like messing with categories, recreating deleted pages and submitting drafts as soon as they went on to Wikipedia, and doing a crazy amount of edits in a couple days for a "new" user, maybe you could investigate for possible evasion of some kind. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 07:47, 10 September 2022 (UTC)

Wooo. So, @NinjaRobotPirate: blocked this range for an entire year and it just expired, and they immediately renewed their efforts. I've reblocked. -- ferret (talk) 15:18, 10 September 2022 (UTC)

Kingdom Hearts: Birth by Sleep

Hello ferret!

I was wondering if Kingdom Hearts: Birth by Sleep can be classified as an open-world game based on this source:

"The problem with bringing such an open world series as Kingdom Hearts to the PSP is that you’re restricted in what you can achieve with the hardware." - Kingdom Hearts: Birth by Sleep Review - PlayStation Universe (psu.com)

Thank you!

P.S. This is not for editing purposes, just my own personal purposes. NickWX28 (talk) 17:14, 15 September 2022 (UTC)

1) PSU takes community submissions, making them a WP:USERG source.

2) If you aren't asking in order to edit Wikipedia, please don't ask. I cannot and am not interested in helping with personal research or fan wiki editing.

3) If you continue to discussion open world gaming, I'll go ahead and indef block you. I do not understand how else I can stress that you should consider yourself banned from this topic, due to your numerous socking and unsourced editing disruption around it. -- ferret (talk) 17:54, 15 September 2022 (UTC)

I mean you cannot ban me from asking questions about the topic that literally is my gaming preference. If its not: Kingdom Hearts, Pokemon, Persona, or open-world, I want zero to do with it. The problem is it is very hard to find a place to ask whether a game is or isn’t in a reliable way because most people don’t care about reviews and such, they just go by personal opinion which is not what I am looking for. I am looking for someone to tell me whether a game is or isn’t based on

reviews and official information, not personal opinion. NickWX28 (talk) 19:18, 15 September 2022 (UTC)

I actually can block you for this, especially with your history of disruption. Read WP:NOTHERE, WP:NOTFORUM. I'm not a helpdesk, nor are other editors, for you to query about video game genres. Leave the topic of open world gaming alone, don't edit about it, don't talk page about it. If that means you don't want to use this site, then don't. -- ferret (talk) 19:41, 15 September 2022 (UTC)

Thats what i am asking: What is the BEST site to use to ask information about a topic without personal opinion involved? NickWX28 (talk) 19:58, 15 September 2022 (UTC)

I've no idea. Quora? -- ferret (talk) 20:03, 15 September 2022 (UTC)

(talk page watcher) If you're question isnt related to editing Wikipedia, then there is no venue for it on Wikipedia. That includes your current question. Sergecross73 msg me 20:05, 15 September 2022 (UTC)

Then should I create a talk page discussion about the image?

Asking because getting blocked is bad, lol. In all seriousness, I do think that said image is misplaced, so should I create a talk page discussion about it? 51.188.25.140 (talk) 18:07, 16 September 2022 (UTC) AdvancedReturn to new topicReturn to new topic 151.188.25.140 (talk) 18:08, 16 September 2022 (UTC)

As a content issue, yes, a talk page discussion would be the place to start. If no one replies after about a week (typical time to judge a silent consensus), then can take action. -- ferret (talk) 18:15, 16 September 2022 (UTC)

Thanks for the tip! 151.188.25.140 (talk) 18:24, 16 September 2022 (UTC)

Suspicious WP:ADMASQ editing at Draft:VoxPop Games

I recently rejected this article for having lackluster sources, but when checking its creators, apparently it was worked on previously by an admitted employee of the company for advertising. While they stopped editing, other IP users and SPA's continued to work on the article, but still no actual disclosure of a conflict of interest. The article was resubmitted by an SPA. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 13:19, 20 September 2022 (UTC)

@Zxcvbnm Well the CEO is editing so I think it's safe to say most of the rest of the edits also originate from the company. That said, as long as you don't feel it's outright G11 worthy, it's fine for them to edit draftspace. I wouldn't sweat it or bother take it apart. If this was happening in mainspace I'd likely protect and pblock. -- ferret (talk) 14:11, 20 September 2022 (UTC)

Okay, I wasn't aware whether mainspace policies of that kind also applied in draftspace. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 14:36, 20 September 2022 (UTC)

@Zxcvbnm I'd say that using draft and AFC would be the proper path for a paid/COI attempt to create an article. Now, circumventing AFC would be a whole different topic. -- ferret (talk) 14:58, 20 September 2022 (UTC)

I do know that paid articles are fine through AfC as long as they are neutral, I was just unsure on the aspect of multiple accounts and anonymous editing as opposed to editing via a single account that declared the COI. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 15:07, 20 September 2022 (UTC)

Most likely it's meat. But if they HAVE an account, they shouldn't be logged out. -- ferret (talk) 15:31, 20 September 2022 (UTC)

E-mail

I just wanted to confirm you received my reply to your e-mail. I had some technical problems when sending it. Thanks.--Bbb23 (talk) 16:08, 25 September 2022 (UTC)

@Bbb23 Got it. -- ferret (talk) 16:09, 25 September 2022 (UTC)

FIFA Genres

Sports is a vague genre, these games need to be listed under the sport which they represent, Chairmaind2 (talk) 16:03, 27 September 2022 (UTC)

@Chairmaind2 "Sports" is a video game genre. "Association football" is not. -- ferret (talk) 16:05, 27 September 2022 (UTC)

Apology for the edit summary

I want to apologize the edit summary I left on Kiwi Farms when I reverted my edit. This has been a very stressful and traumatic day for me and I am not in the best emotional state. I am sorry for what I wrote and I hope this does not happen again. Bluerules (talk) 00:14, 2 October 2022 (UTC)

I dunno

This doesn't even warrant a response. You might wanna ask Barkeep49 to spell your username properly.--Bbb23 (talk) 16:31, 10 October 2022 (UTC)

Milkchoco

Hello,

You removed so much content about the gameplay that it defeats the very purpose of the article's existence ! Now it only talks about everything outside of the game itself and beats around the bush...

Please understand that video game articles can't provide relevant sources for each part of the gameplay, not a single one, even very popular games: look at the section Clash of Clans#Buildings. Some in-game content simply can't be sourced. I didn't undo your edit, but please consider adding back some of the content you deleted so the article makes a bit more sense.

Best regards. Kalyaa (talk) 00:04, 11 October 2022 (UTC)

@Kalyaa Actually, they can, and almost always are. If you cannot provide sources for it, it doesn't belong on Wikipedia. Some of it is flat out against our policies, such as WP:GAMEGUIDE and our guidelines such as WP:VGSCOPE. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not a How To manual or fan site for games. -- ferret (talk) 00:09, 11 October 2022 (UTC)

Hello

A user appears to be evading your block. (fyi) - wolf 18:30, 12 October 2022 (UTC)

@Thewolfchild CU confirmed, blocked. -- ferret (talk) 19:01, 12 October 2022 (UTC)

Can I know the reason for the removal of the FFWS 2019 image

Hello I want to know the reason for the removal of the FFWS 2019 image from the Free Fire (Video Game) page. Exanx777 (talk) 14:46, 31 October 2022 (UTC)

@Exanx777 WP:NFCC, bullet 3.a. We have to limit the number of copyright fair-use images. Three is enough. -- ferret (talk) 20:37, 31 October 2022 (UTC)

OK Exanx777 (talk) 14:51, 2 November 2022 (UTC)

Reporting ip vandal

Please block vandal ip address 219.78.77.203 has repeatedly vandalised the Hakkas wikipage by going against WP:NOETHNICGALLERIES. Hakkameizhow (talk) 10:47, 13 October 2022 (UTC)

Declined. This IP has been given zero warnings or explanation about WP:NOETHNICGALLERIES. Their edits are being inappropriately labelled as vandalism, which is a deliberate effort to harm the encyclopedia. Not knowing a tiny portion of the MOS is not vandalism. Go explain it to them. -- ferret (talk) 13:15, 13 October 2022 (UTC)

As an admin it is your job to tell it that not mine. Even an ex-administrator considers it vandalism: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:MobileDiff/1115767362

As an admin it is your job to protect that Hakka wikipedia page from any wrong doing, I suggest you permenantly lock it and you closely monitor it. Hakkameizhow (talk) 10:46, 14 October 2022 (UTC)

Neither of those statements are true. Most patrollers aren't admins. If you want to revert people's edits, it is YOUR JOB to properly explain the revert and why it was done. You have improperly labelled these edits as vandalism, which they are not. My job as an admin is to properly apply WP:PROT, and this article does not need protection, nor does the IP need blocked if you aren't going to bother to explain an obscure one line part of MOS. If you don't want to properly educate the IP, that's your problem. Let me tack this on though: Improperly referring to edits as Vandalism that aren't is Disruptive editing as well. -- ferret (talk) 13:07, 14 October 2022 (UTC)

you are the one that is incorrect. I correctly stated them as vandalism and I clearly explained the wp on my edit as well. It is your lowly paid job as an admin to uphold the rules of wikipedia for your Bosses not mine, in fact I was only trying to be helpful and alerting you to the wrong doings. Hakkameizhow (talk) 13:47, 15 October 2022 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) @Hakkameizhow Wikipedia admins aren't paid at all. It's completely voluntary. SoyokoAnis - talk | PLEASE PING 12:32, 3 November 2022 (UTC)

AI Dungeon edit mistake

I edited AI Dungeon about a year ago to make the page meet guidelines, but was confused by a message from Ferret saying my edit was reverted due to no edit summary. I was a newbie then and didn't know what that was. If there's a way to view my past edit for reference/comparison, I'd love to know how. Thanks! Good day, fellows! (talk) 19:48, 7 November 2022 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) @Fredaniel: yes, just click the "view changes" link I think. ^{— L10nM4st3r} / _{ROAR at me!} 21:28, 7 November 2022 (UTC)

@Fredaniel Special:Diff/1060622658 was the edit. You removed a lot of content and refactored the quotes of WP:BLPs without any reason or statement as to why. Also, please include your username in your signature per the signature guidelines. I also answered this question back in February: Special:Diff/1069712273.-- ferret (talk) 22:12, 7 November 2022 (UTC)

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Suspected Sockpuppet

Hello! I see that you have the Checkuser permission, and would like to ask you for assistance in investigating an IP. All of their edits are unconstructive, and seem to be vandalism. They also tend to misuse references to memes to harm the integrity of random pages. The user is 136.40.99.210 . Thank you! -FerDeLancer (talk) 16:45, 19 November 2022 (UTC)

@FerDeLancer Checkusers will not comment on IPs. If the user is vandalizing, report them to AIV. If it's general disruption mixed with good edits, consider a discussion at AIV. CU won't comment on IP, but we also won't even look without some sort of evidence that socking is occurring. -- ferret (talk) 19:55, 19 November 2022 (UTC)

(talk page watcher) consider a discussion at AIV Did you mean to say AIV?--Bbb23 (talk) 21:30, 19 November 2022 (UTC)

Yep -- ferret (talk) 23:19, 19 November 2022 (UTC)

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Characters in the Mario Franchise

For on thing: I don’t understand. I sourced everything I put in. What was wrong? Whenever I have asked, I have never gotten a response.

And second thing: Why did you get rid of my page? I worked really hard on the list of paper Mario characters. Why is everyone on Wikipedia so mean?😭 Hackecas001 (talk) 00:14, 2 December 2022 (UTC)

All I did was try my best. I did a lot of research and I sourced everything. Hackecas001 (talk) 00:16, 2 December 2022 (UTC)

I've replied on their talk. -- ferret (talk) 00:17, 2 December 2022 (UTC)

Would you also please delete List of Paper Mario series characters? There was a previous decision to do so. --ThomasO1989 (talk) 00:25, 2 December 2022 (UTC)

@ThomasO1989 I'm not sure there's a CSD to cover such an action. I was not aware of that RfD in performing my redirect of the content, but the issue would then be circumventing deletion processes on the redirected content. I'm open to opinions (or action) from other sysop talk stalkers. I'd also disagree with the RfD on the idea that an article formatted like Characters in the Mario franchise is somehow not a "list". A "List of" redirect is a definitely plausible search term, though that's not the reason I'm holding off, but rather the CSD question. -- ferret (talk) 00:27, 2 December 2022 (UTC)

unusual IP

Is this the same editor? [1],[2]

There is one more I've seen. Timur9008 (talk) 20:09, 2 December 2022 (UTC)

Probably. Verizon Wireless tends to use /44 ranges for IPv6 customers and this is one. It's nothing the user can control and is common. -- ferret (talk) 20:11, 2 December 2022 (UTC)

I see. I saw this on my watchlist hence I ask. Timur9008 (talk) 20:15, 2 December 2022 (UTC)

Question

Is the it possible to add a note to List of highest-grossing media franchises similar to List of best-selling PC games? The "Attention Editors" part saying something like "anything issued after December 2016 should be added carefully" part? I think that would be for the best. Timur9008 (talk) 18:58, 5 December 2022 (UTC)

@Timur9008 You mean an edit notice? Certainly. Someone just needs to write one up on the talk page and ask someone with permissions to create it. I can, once it's drafted. -- ferret (talk) 20:03, 5 December 2022 (UTC)

Will this do? here Timur9008 (talk) 20:20, 5 December 2022 (UTC)

How about now? I'm not really sure what else to add really. Timur9008 (talk) 02:42, 6 December 2022 (UTC)

Franchise

Can you have a look at Talk:List of highest-grossing media franchises#Missing franchises

92.236.253.249 (talk) 11:15, 11 December 2022 (UTC)

Concern

I noticed that a while back you blocked this editor for "constant MOS issues following multiple warnings." I encountered this editor today, and despite numerous explicit warnings, they continue to make small cosmetic edits that nearly always accomplish the opposite of what they have been warned not to do. This editor doesn't seem to "get it". Thank you. Magnolia677 (talk) 11:33, 12 December 2022 (UTC)

@Magnolia677 That's an old one. They disappeared for four years then came back doing the same thing. I've indef'd until they decide to communicate. -- ferret (talk) 14:51, 12 December 2022 (UTC)

Thanks for you help! Magnolia677 (talk) 16:16, 12 December 2022 (UTC)

Carambolax

Carambolax is at it again. [3]. According to a meseege left on the article's talk page he removed Sailor Moon beacause the sources are "unrealible". But last I checked The Japan Times is a reliable source. Timur9008 (talk) 22:12, 12 December 2022 (UTC)

@Timur9008 I've indef pblocked from that article. -- ferret (talk) 22:15, 12 December 2022 (UTC)

Looks he created another account [4] Timur9008 (talk) 18:42, 13 December 2022 (UTC)

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Hi! Can you have a look at this? [5]. Scabab(apparently) has multiple accounts but no admin has taken action yet. Timur9008 (talk) 13:42, 4 February 2023 (UTC)

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Editing help

Hello -again- sir. can you help this person with his inquiry on the page Aurora university please? Thank you Grandia01 (talk) 06:07, 30 March 2023 (UTC)

@Doug Weller seems to have handled this perfectly. -- ferret (talk) 13:16, 30 March 2023 (UTC)

indeed. thanks for the reply and affirmation. Grandia01 (talk) 07:18, 2 April 2023 (UTC)

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Decrease page protection of Poacae (= Grass)?

Hi. I see that you semi'd that page in February 2018, after a request by Tylototriton (ping, but they were not active recently).

If I read the page history correctly (link), there was a dozen or so vandalism edits, starting around October 2017, that replaced the lead paragraph with silly stuff. That was five years ago, so I think there’s a good chance the sockmaster is not around anymore. Maybe it’s time to revoke the semi-protection? Tigraan^{Click here for my talk page ("private" contact)} 09:03, 19 April 2023 (UTC)

@Tigraan Hi there. The indef duration was less a response to the immediate vandalism, so much as the page had previously been indef protected and that protection was lost in a page move. See the log for the original Grass article. The vandalism was fairly constant and routine, and was not a sockmaster. I'm pretty sure that removing protection will see resumed vandalism. "Starting in Oct 2017" misses the mark. It had been going since the page move, at a rate of 5-10 reverts a month. -- ferret (talk) 13:04, 19 April 2023 (UTC)

Admin Abuse

Hell, my name is Belregard, I noticed on your reverting of my edits on Delta Force Xtreme 2 and Hidden & Dangerous Deluxe you removed my added content, and also added an unsourced notice on my addition to the Gameplay section of Condition Zero, while ignoring the requirement of citations for Hidden & Dangerous Deluxe's other game modes, which remained unsourced, and Delta Force Xtreme 2's gameplay section having no notice for unsourced gameplay mentions. I feel it's that these undue restraints and specific focuses on me, if further provided, may constitute harassment, and a grievance will be filed. I hope that we can come to a civil conclusion, and I hope you enjoy your stay on Wikipedia as an editor! Thank you!Belregard (talk) 15:21, 21 April 2023 (UTC)

@Belregard You edited articles on my watch list, and when I see repeated unsourced edits from the same editor, I always check other recent contributions from them. This is routine patrolling. If you do not want to be warned for unsourced editing, begin using citations and reliable sources. If you don't, a block is in your future. -- ferret (talk) 15:25, 21 April 2023 (UTC)

@Belregard I recommend you give a read through WP:RS, and also WP:VG/S for a list of vetted reliable sources. Amazon store pages are NOT reliable sources, for example. Manuals are WP:PRIMARY sources. Ok for basic facts but if there's any commentary, they tend to be no good there. -- ferret (talk) 15:47, 21 April 2023 (UTC)

Thank you for notifying me of the Amazon Store page not being a reliable source, but I believe your issue is with the original provider of that source, which I was merely already recycling as a reference, thank you! Belregard (talk) 15:50, 21 April 2023 (UTC)

Well, now you know it's problematic, so let's not see it happen further? -- ferret (talk) 15:52, 21 April 2023 (UTC)

(talk page watcher) Another helpful tip, if you decide to pursue such a (frivolous) grievance - basic editing is not considered "admin abuse". It's only considered "admin abuse" if an admin does something only an admin can do. For example, it to be admin abuse, it would have to be something like a bad block. (And if he were to block you for adding unsourced content, that would never be seen as a bad block either.) What you're describing, by definition, could never be classified as admin abuse. Sergecross73 msg me 15:46, 21 April 2023 (UTC)

Thank you for your reply, but you are objectively incorrect, as adminship can be removed for the holding of editors to double standards, of which there are numerous examples, as he has refused to issue citations on wikipedia articles he is over-seeing for lacking unsourced comments! Thank you for your additional inclusion of the discussion, have a nice day! Belregard (talk) 15:56, 21 April 2023 (UTC)

What you have outlined is nowhere near what constitutes harassment on Wikipedia, so I was not addressing that aspect of things. And unless he was using his admin abilities to harass you, it still wouldn't be admin abuse, it would just be regular harassment. You're going to need to adjust your understanding of editing Wikipedia if you wish to be successful here. Sergecross73 msg me 16:00, 21 April 2023 (UTC)

Thank you, but you are irrelevant within this discussion, as these matters are not decided by you but by an arbitration committee, thank you and have a nice day! Belregard (talk) 16:08, 21 April 2023 (UTC)

• Well, now the user can scream at me about admin abuse.--Bbb23 (talk) 16:17, 21 April 2023 (UTC)

  @Bbb23 I was going to wait for one more unsourced edit, but your block reason is exactly what I was going to put. -- ferret (talk) 16:18, 21 April 2023 (UTC)

  Alright, talk to you later, I need to prepare for this upcoming ARBCOM case, apparently! Sergecross73 msg me 16:23, 21 April 2023 (UTC)

  @Ferret Belregard has said “ Okay, you stupid fuck SQL, guess if I can't end the block through basic admittance and acknowledgement and other admins are going to be vague and obtuse cunts, I guess I'll just skip this bullshit process and just get a different IP and edit wikipedia THAT way. Fuck you, I win. Belregard”. Doug Weller talk 17:37, 23 April 2023 (UTC)

  @Doug Weller I saw that too, that tactic never works out the way that the evader thinks it will. SQL^{Query Me!} 17:47, 23 April 2023 (UTC)

  I’ve watchlisted some of their articles, can CU if needed. Doug Weller talk 17:49, 23 April 2023 (UTC)

Need help with a move, Sophitia to Sophitia Alexandra

An odd question, but I wanted to move Sophitia to Sophitia Alexandra, yet it looks like someone already made a redirect there. Other than someone trying to duplicate the article there once it has no real history. Would you be able to nuke the redirect so we can move it?-- Kung Fu Man (talk) 02:35, 27 April 2023 (UTC)

Deleted out of the way. Seems uncontroversial, redirect history is old bad C&P moves and vandalism. -- ferret (talk) 02:37, 27 April 2023 (UTC)

Just wanted some clarification

Hi, I'm new to wikipedia and only recently started to add to it. Previously I added to the Cookie Clicker Wikipedia page a link and brief sentence about the cookie clicker's fanmade wiki, which soon was soon removed by you. I am in no way saying that your reversion was wrong, just wondering what exactly about the addition made it worth removing. I want to know for the primary reason of learning what to add on articles, and what to refrain from adding in the future. Thanks for the help! SnowySilver (talk) 05:00, 30 April 2023 (UTC)

(talk page watcher) We sometimes add links to other websites at the bottom of an article (see WP:EL and WP:ELNO for directions on that) but we don't link to external websites in the middle of the body of an article like you did. Sergecross73 msg me 12:54, 30 April 2023 (UTC)

Yep, this is it in a nutshell. -- ferret (talk) 14:38, 30 April 2023 (UTC)

Oh alright, thanks for your help. Sorry for any inconvenience I might’ve caused. SnowySilver (talk) 14:50, 30 April 2023 (UTC)

Request for appeal on block from Yandere Simulator page

Hello. Earlier today, you decided to block me from the Yandere Simulator. The reason you blocked me because I made multiple edits(all of which were reverted by you) that "didn't have reliable sources" but were otherwise good changes. This most recent one pushed you over the top. I generally like to keep changes as minimum as possible, so I didn't remove it because I didn't want to do anything drastic. I provided a reliable source(the official game page), but you decided to block me from the page I am most active on. This is one of the most unfair blocks I have seen. I have made over 200 edits to other pages that weren't reverted and still remain, including on the main Yandere Sim page so i can CLEARLY make edits, so why am I being blocked for something as petty as 'cant get any so called "secondary sources" when they don't exist", also, that sentence that I changed was there for months, but I'm the one being block because I tried to change it? It makes no sense. Therefore, I request an appeal LordEnma8 (talk) 20:12, 1 May 2023 (UTC)

I didn't block you. Please keep this discussion in one place, your talk page. For appeals, read WP:GAB. -- ferret (talk) 20:17, 1 May 2023 (UTC)

Continuing disruption from user

You may want to watch User:Sonic100jam as they have been making inappropriate articles and generally deleting things off their talk page when warned about it. It seems heavily like attempted disruptive editing to me. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 20:45, 1 May 2023 (UTC)

They're worth watching but I don't see enough recent discussion/warning/reverts to take action at this time, esp in the last year. -- ferret (talk) 20:50, 1 May 2023 (UTC)

Further vandalism from IP range you page blocked

Good morning, noticed when I was cleaning up some persistent anti-trans vandalism on Minami Tanaka that you had page blocked the vandal's IP range on pages related to the target of the vandalism, namely Zombie Land Saga and Lily Hoshikawa. He's moved on to the page for the seiyuu of Lily, so a further update of the page block may be warranted. Thanks! GhostStalker (Got a present for ya! / Mission Log) 13:41, 4 May 2023 (UTC)

@Drmies, @Doug Weller, @Bbb23 and any other talk page watcher admins. I'm not quite sure what to do with this case. This is a prolific LTA who has been making these edits for 3-4 years now. They are possibly related to the WMF Office banned LTA known as "Wikipedia is Transphobic", but I think they may just be a similar LTA. They are both SEA, but WIT edits from Singapore and proxies, while this one is always on Indonesian networks. I have numerous range blocks in place related to this LTA, but the range linked above appears to be the home range, and I have concerns with collateral. Opinions welcome. Add more pblocks? Or is that just moving the target around? -- ferret (talk) 01:33, 5 May 2023 (UTC)

I'm not familiar with this, I think, but RoySmith and Yamla ran CU on the range, with some targets in mind. I looked with my regular glasses and I'd just block the whole range--there is way too much unexplained and unhelpful editing. Drmies (talk) 01:38, 5 May 2023 (UTC)

It sounds like there's a fairly small collection of target pages. If so, then I'd suggest being aggressive with page protection. -- RoySmith (talk) 01:47, 5 May 2023 (UTC)

Some other IPs from this LTA include: Special:Contributions/110.137.127.120, Special:Contributions/114.125.224.0/19, Special:Contributions/125.167.48.0/22, Special:Contributions/36.77.112.0/22, Special:Contributions/110.137.126.0/23. Could probably dig up some more. -- ferret (talk) 01:49, 5 May 2023 (UTC)

Roy has a point about the targets. I semi-protected the two unprotected ones yesterday, for 3 or 6 months, I can't remember. Thanks, Drmies (talk) 14:32, 5 May 2023 (UTC)

6 months, it looks like. Will let you guys know if I come across any more vandalism connected to these articles with the same MO. Thanks for the quick action! GhostStalker (Got a present for ya! / Mission Log) 15:54, 5 May 2023 (UTC)

Sales of Ark: Survival Evolved

Hello sir, I found this source [6] it says that the game has sold 33.3 million copies, is it reliable? Kazama16 (talk) 07:06, 13 May 2023 (UTC)

Yes, that should work. -- ferret (talk) 02:40, 14 May 2023 (UTC)

ESRB re-rating of The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion Featured article review

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Undone edit on Kotaku

Hi Ferret,

I'm undoing your removal because unfortunately the issue at hand is vandalism. The user in question, WacoBell, is a sockpuppet of an account that was previously blocked for vandalism (I've put a report into the sockpuppet reporting board about this). None of the already present sources actually back up anything they changed it to say. No mention of rights ownership for Kotaku Australia is mentioned in either sources after the sentence, and the source for Kotaku UK's closure explicitly says Future chose not to continue with the site, not because Gawker Media became G/O Media.

This user unfortunately has a rather, frankly insidious, habit of going into random articles and just changing the entire meaning of sentences or even articles without adding a single source. Apache287 (talk) 18:51, 16 May 2023 (UTC)

@Apache287 You need to go read WP:VANDALISM. This is not vandalism and the fact that I reverted you with a statement that the edit was supported by a source should have been the end. On what basis are you reverting me when I tell you that I have verified this content with the sources in use? -- ferret (talk) 18:55, 16 May 2023 (UTC)

I'm not interested enough in this topic to deeply defend it or dive hard into the sourcing, so I'm walking away, but you need to understand your approach here and use of "vandalism" is disruptive itself. Vandalism is deliberate bad faith efforts to harm to encyclopedia, not sloppy CIR editing or sourcing issues. -- ferret (talk) 19:00, 16 May 2023 (UTC)

I have read it and there's absolutely at this point, given this is a sockpuppet account of a user already disciplined for vandalism, can it be described as anything but vandalism that the same behaviour is continuing.

And I literally read the sources that they edited the sentences they pertained to. Neither of the two sources for Kotaku Australia contain any detail as to the status of control of rights. Meanwhile for the Kotaku UK source nowhere says that the site was closed because of Gawker Media becoming G/O Media, instead it reads "unfortunately Future has decided not to renew the license when it expires on Wednesday 9th September, meaning the end of the current incarnation of Kotaku UK.". Apache287 (talk) 19:00, 16 May 2023 (UTC)