User talk:Rodw/Archive 11

Over Langford Manor

Hi Rod

    Greetings from a hot and sultry Lagos in Nigeria!
    I have finally got around to putting in the citations to this article.  Sorry it's taken so long!  As there were quite a few, the filter has suggested that it might be more than just a "minor edit", and has tagged it accordingly.  But in reality I have made no alterations to the actual text at all.
    I tried to add a couple of pictures too but I am blowed if I can follow the syntax required!  Is there a swift shortcut as there now is (I see) for referencing?

CPLeeUK (talk) 20:23, 2 December 2010 (UTC)

FL

Congratulations on your latest FL. It took a while, but you made it eventually. Hope you don't mind if I piggy-back some of the lists I have created on your successful format.--Peter I. Vardy (talk) 22:33, 5 December 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for your offer. I've asked Malleus to have a look at the prose of List of churches preserved by the Churches Conservation Trust in the English Midlands, which is the list nearest to presentation. Perhaps you might like to check that there are no errors in the format, sorting, etc, if you have time. Cheers. --Peter I. Vardy (talk) 09:03, 6 December 2010 (UTC)

Gosh, that's quick. Thanks. It's interesting what a different pair of eyes can see! As I deal with the points, I'll respond on my talk page to keep the comments and replies together. I must admit that I haven't "got the message" about "scope column & scope row"; perhaps you could draw my attention to the advice and reasoning, please.--Peter I. Vardy (talk) 14:47, 6 December 2010 (UTC)

It's now at FLC. Fingers crossed!--Peter I. Vardy (talk) 11:21, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

Church of the Holy Trinity, Paulton

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CSL and the SLI

Still plodding through it chronologically... I expect so when I get to that time period :-) Lozleader (talk) 20:59, 14 December 2010 (UTC)

Conserved churches

I've decided to go live with List of churches preserved by the Churches Conservation Trust in the East of England even though it has a multitude of redlinks. It will take weeks to fill these, and I thought it is better to have the list available now and make the links blue at "leisure". Have a good Christmas.--Peter I. Vardy (talk) 15:02, 21 December 2010 (UTC)

Thank you!

		The Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar
		Thanks for all your work helping me promote my first good article, Worlebury Camp. I'm pretty sure I would not have been able to do it without you. Thanks again! Reaper Eternal (talk) 01:55, 25 December 2010 (UTC)

UK Waterways in the Signpost

"WikiProject Report" would like to focus on WikiProject UK Waterways for a Signpost article. This is an excellent opportunity to draw attention to your efforts and attract new members to the project. Would you be willing to participate in an interview? If so, here are the questions for the interview. Just add your response below each question and feel free to skip any questions that you don't feel comfortable answering. Also, if you know anyone else who would like to participate in the interview, please share this with them. Have a great day. -Mabeenot (talk) 01:14, 3 January 2011 (UTC)

Another FLC

Just to let you know that List of churches preserved by the Churches Conservation Trust in Northern England has been nominated at FLC. Happy New Year. --Peter I. Vardy (talk) 09:42, 4 January 2011 (UTC)

Problems with deadlinks

Following our discussion late last year, I have just discovered web.archive.org, which seems to have archive copies of nearly everything that was ever on the web. The cite web template has an archiveurl field that manages access to it. Bob1960evens (talk) 10:37, 5 January 2011 (UTC)

Victoria rooms

Hi Rod, thanks for your interpolations. I think i have added as much as I can to the article. I have nominated it at GAN, but I doubt that it will be reviewed before next week. Please tak another look and see if there is anything that needs fixing. Jezhotwells (talk) 12:18, 5 January 2011 (UTC)

PR

Thanks for letting me know you were looking over my shoulder. Otherwise, I would have found the instant repairs startling. Finetooth (talk) 17:35, 7 January 2011 (UTC)

Request for Somerset photo

Hello, and thanks for responding to my request for a photo in the William Arnold (settler) article. Actually, I might need the photo for the Benedict Arnold (governor) article instead. Benedict Arnold was the first governor of the Rhode Island Colony in America, and in his will (1679) mentioned his "Lemmington Farm." This was a property of his in New England that he named for Lemmington, Somerset, with which place he was familiar as a child. I was hoping to get a photo of the English countryside in the vicinity of this small village, about five miles north of Yeovil. While doing some searching, I did find a photo of the Glastonbury area, and was able to use that in the Benedict Arnold article, but I would prefer having a photo of the green rural countryside near Lemmington, preferably taken in the spring time, and being a timeless photo that would show what the countryside looked like when the Arnold family left England in 1635. Does this make sense? Is it do-able? I'd love to come take the photo myself, but it may be a couple years before my wife and I can get back to England. Many thanks.Sarnold17 (talk) 14:51, 9 January 2011 (UTC)

Invitation to join the Wikipedia Ambassador Program

Hi Rod

I would like to invite you to consider joining the Wikipedia Ambassador Program, which is looking for experienced Wikipedians to be Online Ambassadors. The role of Online Ambassadors is to be mentors for students who are editing Wikipedia as part of class assignments. Please look at the Online Ambassador guidelines. You were my mentor and very helpful when I first started, so I know you would be a great mentor and Ambassador. You can find instructions for applying at WP:ONLINE. The main things we're looking for in Online Ambassadors are the right attitude, regular activity and the ability to give practical feedback on articles. Thanks Thruxton (talk) 07:31, 15 January 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for getting back to me Rod - we have to be very selective about who we ask to become Ambassadors but you were the first person I thought of as you were very helpful to me with Flat Holm (I just checked it is still GA and consistently getting about 40 views a day). If you are aware of eny editors who would make good Ambassadors I'd be grateful to know as the program is starting this month Thank you Thruxton (talk) 12:35, 15 January 2011 (UTC)

You can't be that selective, you asked me! :-) Malleus Fatuorum 14:50, 15 January 2011 (UTC)

Jimmy photo

Hi Rod, have you got the photo of me with Jimmy? It would be great if you could upload or just send to infobomb@gmail.com Cheers,MartinPoulter (talk) 10:38, 16 January 2011 (UTC)

Thanks- seems to be lost: would be great if you could re-send. Cheers, MartinPoulter (talk) 18:50, 16 January 2011 (UTC)

Didn't come through either. I checked caughtspam. :( Can you put it online somewhere and send me the URL? MartinPoulter (talk) 09:27, 17 January 2011 (UTC)

That would be great: go ahead. MartinPoulter (talk) 10:04, 17 January 2011 (UTC)

Advice on English names

Hi. This is one of those cases where different standards are adopted for different taxonomic groups. For birds, it's easy as the people who've written the bird articles have done the hard work for you - just capitalise as per those. If you're looking for internal consistency, I would adopt the same conventions for all taxa (i.e. each new word has an initial capital, but don't capitalise after hyphens). That won't please the plant people though - some of whom even insist on banishing capitals altogether. The good news is that scientific names there is no choice, genus always starts with a capital, specific epithet not. SP-KP (talk) 22:46, 16 January 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Burnett, Somerset

HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 06:05, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

Online Ambassadors

I saw the quality of your contributions at DYK and clicked on over to your user page and was pretty impressed. Would you be interested in helping with the WP:Online_Ambassadors program? It's really a great opportunity to help university students become Wikipedia contributers. I hope you apply to become an ambassador, Sadads (talk) 02:45, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

Somerset Levels

Some sort of map for the Levels is doable.

The big problem with this sort of map is defining the boundary of the subject area: If I draw it myself its original research, if I use someone else's data its probably a copyright violation. The second is unacceptable for Wikipedia, and I haven't quite worked out how much OR I can get away with when drawing maps.

However in the case of the Levels a precise boundary line isn't really appropriate or necessary. What is needed is a relief map showing the low-lying levels between the high ground of the Quantocks and Mendips. This is quick hack showing the contour info, combining that with some other stuff (especially labels) will produce the map you want.--Nilfanion (talk) 22:52, 7 January 2011 (UTC)

• I've started looking at this article as you asked and inevitably I've got a few questions. Would you prefer me to list them here or on the article's talk page? Malleus Fatuorum 15:05, 13 January 2011 (UTC)

Map of Levels

I've uploaded the map to Commons now. I'm still on the learning curve for this sort of thing, so any feedback would be appreciated - especially with respect to the labels (position, size etc). I've left the towns off for now, but can add those in once the physical geography is sorted.--Nilfanion (talk) 16:51, 16 January 2011 (UTC)

Yeah those lines are the administrative boundaries (and can drop them easily enough), I agree they are probably pointless in this context. And have no issue with you putting it in article (and possibly other related ones) of course :) Good luck with the FAC run when it happens too.--Nilfanion (talk) 17:07, 16 January 2011 (UTC)

I've taken the boundary lines out, let me know if there's anything else you want tweaking :)--Nilfanion (talk) 22:42, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

Added a few towns onto the map, don't think there's much else worth adding really (its just how the data is presented that may need adjustment).--Nilfanion (talk) 11:14, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

I can't even begin to imagine how annoying it must be to have a nit-picking bastard like me poring over every little detail of your article, but, well, you did ask. :lol: Malleus Fatuorum 10:18, 17 January 2011 (UTC)

I've at last finished going through this article, so no more comments from me. Good luck at FAC. Malleus Fatuorum 19:32, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

Peat Moors Centre

Thanks for your edits to Peat Moors Centre. Do you have any references which support the claim that funding has been awarded, as both the references cited say this is proposed, but appear to be comment and may not meet wikipedia's requirements for reliable sources.— Rod ^talk 21:26, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

Yes, the first of the references actually says "It is extremely encouraging that the Heritage Lottery Fund has awarded a Stage One grant". May be able to find another source elsewhere too. 79.79.216.49 (talk) 21:31, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

Simonsbath

I am sorry, but the link you gave, with the picture of the plaque, clearly shows that I am wrong about the cairn's attribution being to Lord Ebrington who died at El Alamein. My information was based on childhood memories of what was said by my father and uncle who were born in Simonsbath and whose father worked for Lord Fortescue, in the 1890's (yes, my father was born in 1894).

This is the first time I have communicated on Wiki, and I have yet to find out if I can type this, and look at the article in another window. However, I think that the reference to Sir John Fortescue in that section is rather misleading, even if true.

I'll have another look, and try to get my head around this website, when I have time. I'll try to stop bothering you till then. Best wishes. Brauntonian (talk) 23:38, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

Transport in Somerset

Do me a favour Rod and keep an eye on Transport in Somerset. Francis Williams seems to have spat out his dummy and therefore I'm backing off for a while. I don't want to get dragged down to his level. --Simple Bob ^{a.k.a. The Spaminator} (Talk) 21:21, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

Thanks Rod. I've just gone to WP:ANI because this response is out of order. Direct threats against me for doing what? --Simple Bob ^{a.k.a. The Spaminator} (Talk) 22:16, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

RAF Weston-super-Mare

Hi Rodw. There's an accident associated with this station, I think happened about 1947, when an airplane crashed into a bus carrying RAF personnel on the road across the moor. Can't provide any further details- I found (last time I looked) only one internet ref to it, and that was from someone asking for info. Ning-ning (talk) 21:23, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

Prior Park Church

I was just looking at this one myself! I can't find any references to John Pinch being involved with the church. I have read that it was started in 1844, so it would have to be Pinch the younger if a Pinch was involved.. I've added a "citation needed" because I think it is a bit questionable.. --Spoonfrog (talk) 17:15, 28 January 2011 (UTC)

Sounds like a good idea, it looks like Pinch was only the architect of the wing of Prior Park house, which the church is attached to.. --Spoonfrog (talk) 17:42, 28 January 2011 (UTC)

Did you know you are mentioned in this week's New Statesman

Jon Bernstein, who covered the Victoria Rooms lecture, quotes you (a "Wikipedian, identified by his username RodW"). Not available online, only in the print edition. William Avery (talk) 17:37, 28 January 2011 (UTC)

The para about you is fine. I haven't read the whole thing yet. William Avery (talk) 17:56, 28 January 2011 (UTC)

"Catcott Burtle station"

Greetings, Rodw. I gather that the information on "Catcott Burtle station" under the Transport heading on the Catcott page was your edit. This station was a figment of the imagination of a fine railway modeller, Chris Nevard. See RM Web for his reaction to the Wikipedia article. You made railway modellers cackle! I'll leave it to you to emend the article. --Mabzilla (talk) 17:01, 27 January 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for your prompt re-edit and your polite response on my talk page. I've passed on your message about the merits of Wikipedia, and one chap remarked that he hadn't realised before that he could look at the history of the page, so he's learnt something from this. Regards, --Mabzilla (talk) 00:05, 30 January 2011 (UTC)

Wikiproject Somerset.

Hello Rod, your patience and assessment of the recent edits at Transport in Somerset is appreciated. It appears that you are the majority contributor and most concerned watcher of its articles. The project has gone forward in leaps and bounds with your support. I feel that due the the recent debacle I must remove myself from the list on members and watchers. I have been the subject of much unwanted attention recently. It is not what I came to Wikipedia for. See my lalk page archive 3 [1] and the profusion of templates offered in "good faith" on my talk page [2]. My recent encounter with another watcher of the Somerset project pages has now provoked this response to the situation. I hope the encounter with Jimmy Wales was both productive and informative, the photo seems to indicate it was. Regards. Francis E Williams (talk) 14:43, 29 January 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for your message. You obviously feel that you have been badly treated. You can remove yourself from the wikiproject (as can anyone - we are all volunteers), but I hope you will still feel able to provide wikipedia with the benefit of your local knowledge. Whether you are a member of the wikiproject or not if I can help please just let me know.— Rod ^talk 14:58, 29 January 2011 (UTC)

Hello again Rod: I have already removed all somerset watched pages and my name from the list of participants to the project. There exists a personality conflict between contributors to this project. Some users perceive a willingness to research and "add" useful content as unneccessary. Some users seek to "remove" content instead of pursuing further research into why it was placed there in the first instance. I find myself hopelessly at odds with such people, that is all I wish to minimise; - the contact with them. Francis E Williams (talk) 15:14, 29 January 2011 (UTC)

Photo request:FlyBe head office

I'm not sure how close Somerset is close to Devon. If you have any plans to be around Devon, would it be alright if you photographed the Jack Walker House at Exeter Airport? That's the head office for Flybe

Thanks, WhisperToMe (talk) 01:04, 30 January 2011 (UTC)

I posted a message at WikiProject Devon (Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Devon#Photo_request:_Flybe_headquarters) - So far, no responses

I've searched the Geograph images around Exeter Airport and so far haven't found one of the Jack Walker House.

File:NewWalkerHangarFlybe.jpg is the "New Walker Hangar" - But I need one of the "Jack Walker House," a distinct building.

WhisperToMe (talk) 09:07, 30 January 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Brent Knoll Camp

—HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 06:03, 30 January 2011 (UTC)

The name "Brent" clearly (! - in my opinion) derives from the Welsh bryn meaning hill, steep place - qv also Brent Tor in Devon. But finding an online ref for that seems impossible! Ghmyrtle (talk) 12:43, 30 January 2011 (UTC)

Wikiproject Essex

Hi Rodw, I noticed that you have recently made some edits to the wikipedia page Boreham. We are currently proposing that [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Proposals/Essex|WikiProject Essex}} be created, and I was hoping that you could show your support.
Thanks
Thomas888b(Say Hi) 12:02, 30 January 2011 (UTC)

Talkback: John David Duty DYK

Hello, Rodw. You have new messages at Template talk:Did you know#John David Duty.
You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

Hello Rodw, thank you again for your feedback. However, it appears another editor may have mistakenly reverted your reply. KimChee (talk) 11:02, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

DYK for RAF Weston-super-Mare

—HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 00:04, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

interwiki link Shepton Mallet to Simon_Browne

the reason is that somwhere in some wiki this link exists. The bot just goes thru all interwikis it can find and if there is one it corrects it everywhere. It does not have any intelligence to analyze that it is wrong. I will investigate. MastiBot (talk) 23:01, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

New Statesman article

I see it's online now, here. William Avery (talk) 15:15, 4 February 2011 (UTC)

		The Original Barnstar
		I can't tell you how impressed I am with your contributions, esp. the recent series on Somerset archeological sites. I wish we had a Thomas Hardy-award for you. Drmies (talk) 19:35, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

• I thought of you the other day, while reading. Drmies (talk) 23:45, 10 February 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Stokeleigh Camp

—HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 00:03, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

100+ subpages

I don't know whether there's a technical limit to the code of {{100 Numbered subpages}}; subject to that, it's easy enough to create higher versions modelled on the lower numbers. Another approach would be to have more than one DYK in each selection, perhaps pushing the Wikiprojects box to the bottom of the left hand column for balance. Thoughts? Bencherlite^Talk 11:50, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

On "my" two portals (P:OXFORD and P:ENGLAW) I use {{Random portal component with nominate}} with five or six hooks per set; you could just start adding facts to your components at Portal:Somerset/Did you know/1 etc (which has a dablink in it, River Axe (Somerset), by the way. Bencherlite^Talk 12:32, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

Congratulations on the promotion of Portal:Somerset, incidentally; some fine work there. Bencherlite^Talk 07:18, 11 February 2011 (UTC)

My congratulations, too. --Peter I. Vardy (talk) 09:48, 11 February 2011 (UTC)

"Rag bag" indeed !

My word, those guys at sciencefocus.com look interesting, don't they. Not faceless at all. In fact, sometimes very satisfying to fit a name to a face. Very best wishes. Martinevans123 (talk) 23:59, 8 February 2011 (UTC)

Sigwells

Hello Rod

I have submitted an article on the archaeology of Sigwells, Somerset, England - which is outstanding (the archaeology, not the article!) but is has twice been refused by Alpha Quadrant. I am wondering how I may reasonably improve it as I think it is well referenced I am am highly qualifies to write on the subject

All the best

Sigwells Sigwells (talk) 00:29, 10 February 2011 (UTC)

Meare lake village

Hello Rod, Nice article. About 200 yards south of the given location Google satellite view shows about 15 clearly delineated structures. Are these the remains of the village? If so it may be worth mentioning in the article, and a screen capture would make an excellent addition to the article? Chienlit (talk) 07:02, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Ham Hill Hillfort

Materialscientist (talk) 12:04, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Meare Lake Village

Materialscientist (talk) 00:03, 18 February 2011 (UTC)

Levels

Added an inset to the map. Looking at the FAC, I'm not entirely sure that is what the reviewer wanted. A location map such as {{location map|England}} may be more suitable, and the natural place to for that would be an infobox.--Nilfanion (talk) 00:46, 19 February 2011 (UTC)

Added height info to file desc page. If you use a larger image in the article, it would be more sensible to add point information such as village locations in the article would be through {{superimpose}} or similar. I don't think its worth making further edits to the map at this time: The one thing that is really needed (the boundary of the Levels) doesn't exist because they are not a precisely defined area...--Nilfanion (talk) 01:32, 22 February 2011 (UTC)

I've done a bit of digging around - this PDF is profile of the Somerset Levels and Moors Natural Area ("a biogeographic zone that reflects the geological foundation, the natural systems and processes and the wildlife in different parts of England"). I'd imagine you'd find the document extremely helpful as a source for the article. Note that it includes the North Levels too.

I've also plotted the Natural Area onto this map. Unfortunately, I cannot upload that to Commons under a free licence as the data is not freely available (and so would be a copyvio), but it does show the extent of the map is about right. Also, note that the extent shown is illustrative, not definitive.--Nilfanion (talk) 11:42, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

Spotted the refs to that doc now :) The yellow area is the NE-defined Natural Area (but cannot be used; see above), it corresponds to the map on p35 of that PDF. I can switch the dots to show the extents of the towns if you want.

As for the motorway, I'm not sure. The M5 is important nationally, but is merely something that passes through the Levels and doesn't really have a relationship to them. The Willow Man is probably of greater relevance to the Levels than the road :) As it stands, the map primarily reflects the information in the lead section - that is the hills and the rivers. If including the road network - not just the motorway - helps to understand the context of the Levels, in the same sort of way that including the towns does, then it makes sense to include.--Nilfanion (talk) 12:35, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Old Orchard Street Theatre

Materialscientist (talk) 12:02, 20 February 2011 (UTC)

Bath link revert

I can live with it.andycjp (talk) 10:12, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

Cheddar

Hi. Twist's guide is a book, yes, but it doesn't have an ISBN printed in it, and it's quite possible the author never applied for one. If this causes issues at the GA review, both of the facts listed in the article could alternatively be sourced from Cheddar Wood's SSSI citation, or from the Somerset Atlas Flora, although you might have to reword the article text slightly. Hope that helps. SP-KP (talk) 17:50, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

Hi again, The book was privately published by Twist himself; unfortunately there isn't a date printed in the book either (although I know it was published in approximately 2001). SP-KP (talk) 10:07, 5 March 2011 (UTC)

FLC

I thought you might be interested in having a look at this FLC. It is, I think, the editor's first attempt, and she has based her work very much on the way we have been doing lists. I have given a bit of advice on her talk page, but did not want to add anything to the nomination as my name is included in her presentation. The nomination has not as yet attracted much attention. Cheers. --Peter I. Vardy (talk) 10:22, 5 March 2011 (UTC)

Many thanks for your input — so quickly too!--Peter I. Vardy (talk) 14:04, 5 March 2011 (UTC)

Castle Park, Bristol

Hi Rodw, I'm not sure whether you noticed or not, but I've recently started reviewing this at GAN. I did not particularly like the lack of pre-Second World War history and said so. Looking back I said the same in my review of History of Bristol about 15 months ago. Surprisingly there does not appear to be much reliable information about on that topic, especially on the web, and Bristol does not appear to have a Victoria County History. I still think the information needs to go in, but it does tend to make life difficult at GAN. Pyrotec (talk) 21:13, 6 March 2011 (UTC)

Bath College of Domestic Science

Hello there. Thanks for the acknowledgment for the work on Bath School of Art. Now I have just posted an article on the history of this other local college. One or two of the little blue reference numbers seem to have become detached from the paragraphs which precede them, namely numners 2 and 5. Can this be corrected ? Sorry but I am still learning ! Thank you. Apologies for any inconvenience. Solsbury (talk) 17:19, 7 March 2011 (UTC)

Nomination of Duncorn Hill for deletion

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Duncorn Hill is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Duncorn Hill until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on good quality evidence, and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion template from the top of the article.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Pontificalibus (talk • contribs) 20:42, 7 March 2011 (UTC)

Mumford & Sons

Hey, thanks for the addition to the page. I've been working on it on and off for a few weeks. I was trying to limit mentions of live performances to "really big deals" because the page was previously a laundry list of shows and festival appearances. Is Glastonbury considered quite important? From reading the source, it seems like an important festival and notable that they moved to the second stage. --Andy Walsh (talk) 21:06, 8 March 2011 (UTC)

Thanks—looks like it definitely needs to be there then. If you have any other suggestions/pot-shots to take at the page, I'd appreciate it. My next task is to take all the bits that have been added, which are mostly well-sourced at this point, and make sure there's a clear narrative. --Andy Walsh (talk) 21:17, 8 March 2011 (UTC)

Wikimedia Academy

Hi Rod, the attendees will be mostly from potential partner organisations. Some but not all of them have a local focus: it's not exclusively a day about Bristol. If you'd rather use Somerset rather than Bristol as an example of a Wikiproject, that's fine, but a good idea to mention that there's a Bristol one as well, and mention in passing the Buildings and architecture of Bristol article as an example of what has been done in that area. I've sent an invitation to a network of architects, but not sure yet if any are attending. Sweet Track sounds like an ideal example of an FA for this session. You're right; "directed" is vague. What I meant was more like "deliberate" in that Wikiproject participants set themselves the task of improving articles in that area.

So, from the session, I hope people will get 1) that Wikipedia has a quality rating system in the form of article assessments, 2) that the highest level is FA (and to see an example of an FA to get an idea of its features, such as being well illustrated 3) that there are groups on Wikipedia working to move local articles up this quality scale. It's fine to mention that there is a Bristol one but to look in more detail at the Somerset one. Cheers, MartinPoulter (talk) 16:33, 13 March 2011 (UTC)

Category:Villages in Bath and North East Somerset

Hi Rod. Would you consider giving your views at Category talk:Villages in Bath and North East Somerset. It impinges on the Somerset Project outlook, and your view would be useful. I'm inclined to the view that often a B&NES category should be a sub-cat of the Somerset one, but perhaps for consistency that should be part of a wider discussion. Thanks. Rwendland (talk) 21:00, 19 March 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for helping in sorting this out. I've created a parallel Category:Towns in Bath and North East Somerset to match. Do you thing Bath should be in the Towns category? Rwendland (talk) 22:51, 21 March 2011 (UTC)

Service award level

There has been a major revision of the the Service Awards: the edit requirements for the higher levels have been greatly reduced, to make them reasonably attainable.

Because of this, your Service Award level has been changed, and you are now eligible for a higher level. I have taken the liberty of updating your award on your user page.

Herostratus (talk) 01:52, 20 March 2011 (UTC)

Villages in Bath and North East Somerset cat

Hi, I have noticed that the Villages in B&NES category was up for deletion and I thought that by adding all the remaining villages into the subcategory would back up its deletion. However, I am confused because I do not notice any other categories for all of Somerset's other districts such as Category:Villages in North Somerset or Category:Villages in Sedgemoor and so on. Should these ones be created or if they shouldn't be created, how come this category was created in the first place? Thanks, Jaguar (talk) 18:31, 20 March 2011 (UTC)

Thanks, I had already removed the Category:Bath and North East Somerset but not the Category:Villages in Somerset. I will start removing that category and see if I could start on making a Category:Villages in North Somerset. In the meantime I hope to make all navboxes for Somerset (I had already started {{Taunton Deane}}, {{South Somerset}}, {{West Somerset}}, {{Sedgemoor}} and {{Mendip}}) and now it's just the two Unitary Authorites remaining. However this is the point where I get stuck because since they are Unirary Authorites there cannot be a map for them which joins up with the traditional county of Somerset. I might open a wider discussion on the navboxes on WP Somerset's talk page later on to see on what could be approved. Regards Jaguar (talk) 18:51, 20 March 2011 (UTC)

FLC

You may be interested to know that I have nominated List of churches preserved by the Churches Conservation Trust in the East of England at FLC. --Peter I. Vardy (talk) 18:26, 21 March 2011 (UTC)

A pie for you!

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Bath, Somerset etc etc

Hey Rod! Thanks for the message. Its great work you've been doing on Bath and other articles, unfortunately archaeology is an ever changing discipline, and those not working in the field often don't hear about new terminology and theories as they emerge. Sure, I'll have a look at the other pages. Best wishes. (Midnightblueowl (talk) 18:24, 29 March 2011 (UTC))

Charles Holden renominated

Just to let you know that Charles Holden which you were kind enough to support, has been renominated. --DavidCane (talk) 01:26, 1 April 2011 (UTC)

Talkback

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List of hill forts and ancient settlements in Somerset & English Heritage Book of Maiden Castle

After a ridiculously long delay, for which I can only appologise, I have finally got round to looking at the comments you wanted me to address. Regarding continental Europe, unfortunately Sharples wasn't much more specific, which I've explained. While the bit about "domestic purposes as well as a defensive role" seems fine to me (perhaps a little clarification is needed) and like something I'd include, I don't think I wrote it did I? I used Maiden Castle, Dorset as a template for working on other hillfort articles and I can't find the word "domestic" in there at all. Nev1 (talk) 18:44, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

Another FL

Thanks for your review and support at FLC for List of churches preserved by the Churches Conservation Trust in the East of England. This has (at last) been promoted; a task made more difficult by the CCT completely changing its website in the middle of the process. Only one list left now to complete the set — SE England! --Peter I. Vardy (talk) 17:30, 8 April 2011 (UTC)

Graun

Hi, congratulations on your impressive editing record, and thanks for your useful comments on the recent Grauniad articles about barriers to expert editors. You may be amused to note that a couple of battle-scarred contributors have commented at the Signpost, we live in interesting times. . . dave souza, talk 19:07, 8 April 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for your response, have replied on my own talk page as it seemed to make more sense that way, . dave souza, talk 19:42, 8 April 2011 (UTC)

WP Somerset in the Signpost

"WikiProject Report" would like to focus on WikiProject Somerset for a Signpost article. This is an excellent opportunity to draw attention to your efforts and attract new members to the project. Would you be willing to participate in an interview? If so, here are the questions for the interview. Just add your response below each question and feel free to skip any questions that you don't feel comfortable answering. Other editors will also have an opportunity to respond to the interview questions. If you know anyone else who would like to participate in the interview, please share this with them. Have a great day. -Mabeenot (talk) 22:41, 10 April 2011 (UTC)

Help me unblock me

I need your help to be unblocked. I am AirCrash Euro You was the one how welcomed me to Wikipedia. The people how blocked me think I am band user Ryan kirkpatrick and my articles and have deleted like Buckland air disaster which I checked was a notable event. So I would be very grateful If you can help to unblock me. There is a unblock request on my Talk page. Thank you AirCrash Euro (talk) 22:10, 2 May 2011 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.155.165.91 (talk)

Charles Holden

Hi Rod. I'm hoping that you won't mind my asking. As you supported the Charles Holden FAC first time, could I impose on you to repeat your support for its second candidacy at Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Charles Holden/archive2. Thanks in advance. --DavidCane (talk) 19:19, 3 May 2011 (UTC)

Many thanks for the support again.--DavidCane (talk) 18:19, 5 May 2011 (UTC)

Land Yeo

Hi, nice article. You may wish to create a diagram of the river system and its mills. It won't be anything like as complicated as that for the River Medway, but that and the River Bourne, Kent diagram will give you some idea of what can be achieved. Mjroots (talk) 12:17, 5 May 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Land Yeo

The DYK project (nominate) 06:02, 8 May 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Gatcombe, Somerset

The DYK project (nominate) 00:04, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

WikiProject Report - Somerset

Rod, Your general message which came to me: "... WikiProject Report" would like to focus on WikiProject Somerset for a Signpost article. This is an excellent opportunity to draw attention to your efforts and attract new members to the project. Would you be willing to participate in an interview? If so, here are the questions for the interview. Just add your response below each question ..... The link from 'here are the questions for the interview' does not relate to WikiProject Somerset. but to railways. I am confused. Jane (Janie-ITC (talk) 21:07, 9 May 2011 (UTC))

DYK for Beckington Castle

The DYK project (nominate) 00:03, 12 May 2011 (UTC)

Link to holiday-saver

Although holiday-saver is intended to be a commercial site the link included in the page was not 'advertising' or selling to the users of wikipedia in any way. We do advertise and market our site, but not to walkers or visitors to the cotswolds. We contact small business owners directly for this purpose.

The linked page will provide free and useful information to walkers / holiday-makers, and a service to loacal small business on the cotswold way.

Hope you agree! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rickbourner (talk • contribs) 07:58, 12 May 2011 (UTC)

Re: List of hill forts and ancient settlements in Somerset

Sorry I wasn't able to add material sooner; I just started a new job Monday, & the time I have available for Wikipedia this week has been greatly reduced. I just added some details to the new entries on the list. Hopefully the details will help identify these hillforts & determine whether they fit the criteria for inclusion. And Burrow's monograph may allow us to create articles on these links. -- llywrch (talk) 05:22, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

Outstanding and overdue double award

		The Featured Article Medal
		Given the number of FAs you have created, this appears to be long overdue. Very Well done. MrMedal (talk) 15:02, 14 May 2011 (UTC)

		The Featured List Medal
		Given the number of FLs you have created, this also appears to be long overdue. Very Well done.MrMedal (talk) 15:02, 14 May 2011 (UTC)

Article feedback request

Rod, I would appreciate some feed back on a couple of articles I have been working on and off for a while now: Ladle Hill, and Scratchbury Camp. I still feel quite new to wikipedia and would especially appreciate your opinion on the content, writing style, and the balance of the articles. Ultimately I guess I would like to see these get to GA status but I could do with feedback on what to do next. Many thanks, Peter Pahazzard (talk) 11:35, 15 May 2011 (UTC)

K&A Article

Hi Rod. Fully supportive of your efforts to push this towards FA. I am continuing to watch the article, but I don't have the time to keep proof-checking your edits, as the paragraph shifts, etc, make it tricky to spot the changes (this is not a criticism, just trying to rationalise my on-WP time) -- there's also the small matter that your standard of editing is high, and any errors, such as missing spaces, are quite tricky to spot!

It's probably most efficient if I join in with a complete-article proof-read once it has stabilised again.

On a related matter, to avoid link-rot you might want to consider archiving some/all of the references using 'WebCite'. Once you're set-up with a browser bookmarklet it is really easy, and only takes marginally longer to complete a cite template as you have to add a second URL and date. Having been 'stung' by losing refs I used on the Somerset Space Walk article, I now use this whenever I am citing an online ref.

Cheers -- EdJogg (talk) 08:42, 21 May 2011 (UTC)

Nailsea for GA

Hi, I've had a word with Malleus about Nailsea's new and improved Sports section, and he has said that it is fine to nominate the article at GAN again. As the article's nominator, I think that it is down to you renominate the article again if you feel that the Sports section's issues have been addressed. Thank you very much, Jaguar (talk) 21:49, 21 May 2011 (UTC)

I understand that some editors are already busy with Kennet and Avon Canal and List of hill forts and ancient settlements in Somerset, so I was only asking if it would be ok to nominate Nailsea in the middle of all this? Jaguar (talk) 21:51, 21 May 2011 (UTC)

K&A canal

Hi. I can see why you were having difficulty. The ecology content is scattered throughout the article. I think the solution is to create an ecology section and put all of the ecology content in there. I've created it - at the moment it's just a subsection of the "Canal today" section, but once it's big enough it should be able to stand on its own as a section in its own right. I've given a bit of paragraph structure to the Ecology section - it should be obvious from this where to slot the content in. I've removed a few things that don't actually say anything (e.g. "there are some vertebrates") or are of no real relevance to the canal itself (e.g. the Red Kite mention - you could say that about much of the canal's length, and much of the surrouding countryside these days). Some of the statements aren't referenced so I've added { { cn } } tags. I've also done a bit of work on the names. If you like, I can take a second look at it and fix any remaining issues once all the ecology stuff is in one place. Hope this helps a bit - good luck with FA status. SP-KP (talk) 10:14, 22 May 2011 (UTC)

One other observation ... it might be a good idea not to mention every SSSI that happens to be within a short distance of the canal, but only those which are in some way related to the canal. SP-KP (talk) 10:20, 22 May 2011 (UTC)

• Inevitably, now I've started looking at the article I have some questions:

Lead

• "The Kennet and Avon Canal is a canal in southern England." That kind of "the canal is a canal" opening is one of my pet peeves. So the canal is a canal? Who'd have guessed! I'm sure the opening could be rewritten to avoid it.

• I'll try to rewrite that tomorrow.— Rod ^talk 21:07, 2 June 2011 (UTC)

• Changed 2nd occurrence to navigable waterway with wikilink to canal.— Rod ^talk 09:24, 3 June 2011 (UTC)

• "The Caen Hill flight of locks at Devizes raises the canal to its longest pound ...". I've never before seen the word "pound" used like that. What does it mean?

• The pound is a stretch of water with no locks which also acts a reservoir to supply water to the rest of the canal - I'll look for other words - but that is what the sources call it.— Rod ^talk 21:07, 2 June 2011 (UTC)

• Canal pound now wikilinked for explanation. It was linked later in the article but not on 1st occurrence.— Rod ^talk 09:24, 3 June 2011 (UTC)

• "The canal continues through the rural landscape of Wiltshire and Berkshire before joining the River Kennet at Newbury and becoming a navigable river to Reading". The canal becomes a navigable river? Doesn't sound right.

• Again I'll look for alternative wording tomorrow— Rod ^talk 21:07, 2 June 2011 (UTC)

• Reworded.— Rod ^talk 09:24, 3 June 2011 (UTC)

Early plans

• "Although plans had been discussed for a canal ...". When?

• I'll look it up— Rod ^talk 21:07, 2 June 2011 (UTC)

• Ideas first mooted in Elizabethan times - reworded.— Rod ^talk 09:24, 3 June 2011 (UTC)

• "Although plans had been discussed for a canal, no action was taken until the early 18th century when the Avon navigation from Bristol to Bath, which opened in 1727, with the first cargo of 'Deal boards, Pig-Lead and Meal' reaching Bath in December, and the Kennet navigation through Reading, opened in 1723, were built to meet local needs, independently of each other but both under the supervision of surveyor-engineer John Hore." I just can't make head nor tail of that.

• That's why I'm so grateful fro your eyes - I will reword (& add some punctuation).— Rod ^talk 21:07, 2 June 2011 (UTC)

• I've turned this into 3 or 4 sentences - hopefully clearer.— Rod ^talk 09:24, 3 June 2011 (UTC)

• "In 1788 the so-called "Western Canal" was proposed ...". What has the proposed Western Canal got to do with the K&A? Why "so-called"? Why the scare quotes?

• It was originally going to be called the Western Canal, but the name was changed because the Grand Western Canal was proposed at about the same time.— Rod ^talk 21:07, 2 June 2011 (UTC)

• Reworded - hopefully clearer. Not sure about the quote marks I think I was trying to illustrate that this was the name of the proposal but obviously didn't work - what would be a better way of doing this?— Rod ^talk 09:24, 3 June 2011 (UTC)

• "In 1789 the engineers Barns, Simcock and Weston submitted a proposed route ...". a proposed route for what? The Western Canal?

• Yes because that was what it was being called at the time.— Rod ^talk 21:07, 2 June 2011 (UTC)
• Hopefully clearer now because of item above.— Rod ^talk 09:24, 3 June 2011 (UTC)

• "The name was changed to the Kennet and Avon Canal ...". Changed from what? We haven't yet been told that it had a name. Or was its original name the Western Canal?

• Yep from Western Canal

• As above.— Rod ^talk 09:24, 3 June 2011 (UTC)

Malleus Fatuorum 20:25, 2 June 2011 (UTC)

Thanks - I'll look at these over the next day or two but busy tonight.— Rod ^talk 21:07, 2 June 2011 (UTC)

OK, I'll go and do something else for the next couple of days. Malleus Fatuorum 21:36, 2 June 2011 (UTC)

Hopefully comments above addressed - please keep em coming.— Rod ^talk 09:24, 3 June 2011 (UTC)

Operation

• "In 1956 John Gould, a trader on the eastern section of the waterway, successfully petitioned against its legal closure and obtained damages for loss of business." The ordering here is rather confusing. What was "legal"? The closure or Gould's petition?

• I have expanded and explained the bit on acts of parliament, enquiries etc.— Rod ^talk 08:37, 9 June 2011 (UTC)

Restoration

• "Re-puddling was a long process therefore experiments with the use of heavy gauge polythene to line the canal were undertaken". Seems to be at best a non sequitor.

• I don't quite understand this one. Because re-puddling took so long (& was very labour intensive, costly etc.) they tried to find quicker cheaper methods using polythene - what is the problem with the sentence?— Rod ^talk 08:37, 9 June 2011 (UTC)

• You don't carry out experiments because something's going to take a long time or be expensive; you carry out experiments because you aren't sure how to do something. Malleus Fatuorum 14:53, 9 June 2011 (UTC)

• I think the experimental bit was the use of polythene lining to make it quicker. The source says "An experiment using heavy gauge polythene, covered by concrete was abandoned in 1967 but in 1976 work commenced at Avoncliff, using this method and the canal was lined as far as Limpley Stoke".— Rod ^talk 15:14, 9 June 2011 (UTC)

Ecology

• I think that the several very short paragraphs will cause some comment at FAC.

• Combined into one paragraph.— Rod ^talk 08:37, 9 June 2011 (UTC)

Bristol to Bath

• "The 9.5-hectare (23-acre) Bickley Wood is a geological Site of Special Scientific Interest (SSSI) ...". Up to this point the article has consistently been using imperial (metric), but now it starts to become a bit random.

• I will take another look at all units etc.— Rod ^talk 08:37, 9 June 2011 (UTC)

Bath to Devizes

• "Above the top lock the canal passes through Sydney Gardens including two short tunnels ...". What includes two short tunnels? The gardens or the canal?

• I've added a VIA two short tunnels - does this work?— Rod ^talk 08:37, 9 June 2011 (UTC)

• "The resultant wet meadows and oxbow lake have proved attractive to a number of migrant birds with waders such as dunlin, ringed and little ringed plover, and green and common sandpiper in spring and autumn." "Birds with waders"? Are they afraid of getting their feet wet?

• Changed to wading birds.— Rod ^talk 08:37, 9 June 2011 (UTC)

I think I've about done with this now Rodw, so good luck at FAC. Malleus Fatuorum 23:26, 8 June 2011 (UTC)

• Thanks again for all your work on this article. It will probably be another week or two before I nominate it as I'm still waiting for one book for a page number & have put it up at Peer review. My target is to nominate after I have a few days away at Glastonbury Festival.— Rod ^talk 08:37, 9 June 2011 (UTC)

Reason for adding it

It was because Glastonbury CT is also home to many different festivals, One held in the 90's had a bit to do with the Glastonbury England festivals. Mcdudeman (talk) 13:20, 26 May 2011 (UTC)

Winchester's PR

Thank you very much for taking a look at Winchester. Thankfully I live in the city so I do have a great knowledge of the area. The Manual of Style you mentioned in the peer review suggests that 'there are also at least 3 sub heads with the word "Winchester" in them' - such as the Winchester College and Winchester Castle. Would this be ok to change even if they are the actual names of the landmarks? I haven't been that great with the Manual of Style over the year, but I think that's just all. Other than that the article would just need a large copy edit and referencing up. Thanks! Jaguar (talk) 22:26, 30 May 2011 (UTC)

List of High Sheriffs of Somerset

Nice Work. Looks just about complete now. As far as links are concerned I had to delink Amias Paulet (3 times). They concerned the grandfather of the subject of the Wikipedia article. After I have had a look at Kent tonight then I may just write a couple of biographies of High Sheriffs and then move on to something else. Plucas58 (talk) 20:06, 5 June 2011 (UTC)