Talk:Tupac Shakur/Archive 8

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Middle School

According to https://www.baltimoresun.com/food-drink/bal-tupac-shakur-baltimore-school-for-arts-hall-of-fame-induction-story.html Tupac attended Roland Park Elementary/Middle School in 8th grade. Can this please be added to this page in the early life section before the mention of his high schools. The article says "Though Shakur attended Roland Park Middle School for eighth grade and Paul Laurence Dunbar High School as a freshman, he had heard about the BSA from peers, said Donald Hicken, the longtime head of the school's theater department who retired last year." — Preceding unsigned comment added by ClaybourneAmans (talkcontribs) 01:44, 6 December 2019 (UTC)

  DoneAranya (talk) 21:44, 19 January 2020 (UTC)

Add to page Tess Hunter (talk) 12:01, 4 May 2020 (UTC)

Isn’t he alive?

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Because of the 14 rounds that were fired into the car, none hit Suge Knight. No one saw the shooting occur, or reported seeing the white Cadillac in the area. Also in his later years, he referred to himself as Makaveli, which is a direct reference to Machiavelli, a 15th century prince whisperer who wrote “To fool one’s enemies, fake ones death”. Suge Knight even said “Why do you think nobody’s been arrested if they the one that killed Tupac? Because Tupac ain’t dead. If he was dead, they’d be arresting those dudes for murder. You know he’s on some island smoking a Cuban cigar. Rivirian King of the Rails (talk) 12:44, 9 June 2019 (UTC)

If you had several reliable sources for this theory then it might be worth discussion (as a theory), although I doubt even that. In the absence of said sources, wonderful though your personal conjecture might be, please see WP:NOTAFORUM. Thanks. -- Begoon 12:53, 9 June 2019 (UTC)

But there’s a picture of him at a rally Rivirian King of the Rails (talk) 11:55, 16 June 2019 (UTC)

Was the rally on some island, and was he smoking a Cuban cigar at the rally? -- Begoon 12:10, 16 June 2019 (UTC)
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Hello — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.103.229.54 (talk) 13:37, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

Requested move 25 May 2020

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The result of the move request was: Withdrawn by nominator. Interstellarity (talk) 21:21, 30 May 2020 (UTC) Interstellarity (talk) 21:21, 30 May 2020 (UTC)



Tupac Shakur2Pac – His stage name was 2Pac and most people know him as 2Pac anyway. His music was released under “2Pac” too. Theibflame (talk) 19:18, 25 May 2020 (UTC)

This is a contested technical request. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 21:16, 25 May 2020 (UTC)
  • @Theibflame: How well known is he, under either name? Also, page Tupac Shakur has over 5000 edits and thus likely will need a steward to perform the move. (And, pages Tupac Shakur and 2Pac are WP:Parallel histories.) Anthony Appleyard (talk) 21:22, 25 May 2020 (UTC)
  • @Anthony Appleyard: About the 43rd bestselling musical artist of all time. (And for the record, sources that say that credit him as 2Pac instead of Tupac Shakur.)
  • Oppose. Nearly every source in the article uses Tupac. Calidum 15:51, 26 May 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose. He is known by both names, and I think the current title is preferable to stylized stage name. Rreagan007 (talk) 02:00, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose. The current title is his clear common name in reliable sources. -- Necrothesp (talk) 15:17, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose The current title is his common name. Dimadick (talk) 19:00, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
  • Ok i see everyone’s points. How do I end this disscussion? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Theibflame (talkcontribs) 00:13, 28 May 2020 (UTC)
    @Theibflame: I will close the discussion. Interstellarity (talk) 21:20, 30 May 2020 (UTC)
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Semi-protected edit request on 2 June 2020

CHECK MORE ON 2PACS SONGS Hothiphopmp3 (talk) 12:29, 2 June 2020 (UTC)

  Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. --TheImaCow (talk) 12:38, 2 June 2020 (UTC)

Ahh forget it Vanicius jr (talk) 17:06, 2 June 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 2 June 2020

People have reason to believe that he was the god of rap and with his rivalry with his former friend Notorious BIG these two were hip hop's biggest names Vanicius jr (talk) 17:05, 2 June 2020 (UTC)

  Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. JTP (talkcontribs) 17:15, 2 June 2020 (UTC)

Why does Makaveli take me here

How is it associated with Tupac in either way? Why is searching Makaveli redirecting me here? Metric Supporter 89 (talk) 16:32, 23 February 2020 (UTC)


If you're still wondering, Makaveli was a stage name Tupac sometimes used. If you're looking for the Italian writer Machiavelli, a link at the very top of the article should take you there (may not be visible on mobile). Jojopeanut (talk) 14:19, 3 June 2020 (UTC)

Referenced by first or last name?

There's inconsistency with whether he is called Tupac or Shakur throughout the article. For example, the introduction refers to him as Shakur, but Personal Life switches to calling him Tupac. The Rising Star section even refers to him as 2Pac. The Stardom section uses all three names in different sentences. Should these all be switched to the surname Shakur as the professional formality, or to Tupac since he is so widely referred to by that name? Jojopeanut (talk) 14:32, 3 June 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 17 June 2020

Years active- 1988-1996 129.205.113.71 (talk) 17:21, 17 June 2020 (UTC)

  Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. The current sources state "Shakur got his first break when he became a roadie and backup dancer for the rap group Digital Underground in 1990". If you believe it should be 1988, please provide a source. ProcrastinatingReader (talk) 18:03, 17 June 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 5 July 2020

Please change "In 2008, the play Holler If Ya Hear Me, based on Tupac lyrics, played on Broadway..." to "In 2014, the play Holler If Ya Hear Me, based on Tupac lyrics, played on Broadway..." in 'Legacy and Remembrance' section, 'Film and stage' subsection.

[1]

Supadupa837 (talk) 18:47, 5 July 2020 (UTC)

References

  Done See diff. P,TO 19104 (talk) (contribs) 20:10, 10 July 2020 (UTC)

Tupac Amaru vs. Tupac Amaru II

The existing reference in the "Personal Life" section -- whose author does not quote anyone -- presumably refers to the latter (Condorcanqui) with "revolutionary", but this contemporary New Yorker article quotes Afeni Shakur directly: He was named for "the last Inca chief to be tortured, brutalized, and murdered by Spanish conquistadores . . . a warrior," Afeni says. 2607:FEA8:BFA0:BD0:B5C4:3D3B:70EA:90D0 (talk) 03:21, 10 August 2020 (UTC)

2pac s music

2pac was a rapper who wasnt using any metaphors or wordplays in his music.Most of his songs,he talked about his death — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mpita mbewe (talkcontribs) 20:09, 5 September 2020 (UTC)

RS needed for section "Shooting two policemen"

The currently cited RS for the section say nothing about the policemen being "drunk" or having "stolen guns"—are there any RS for these claims? The shooting was widely covered, but I can't find any. If not, they ought to be removed. Thanks! Elle Kpyros (talk) 15:41, 26 September 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 23 October 2020

Change "Some of Tupac's song lyrics suggest a belief in a god,[54] perhaps in the manner of deism.[55] Apparently not believing in Heaven and Hell as typified, he perhaps believed in karma.[56]"

to

Written before his death, in his 1995 tune "So Many Tears", that "I shall not fear no man but God, though I walk through the valley of death..Please God walk with me...and take me to Heaven..Is there heaven for a G? Remember me..I know my destiny is Hell, where did I fail?..Please Lord forgive me for my sins, cause here I come..beggin' for the Lord to let me in to Heaven's door." DocRock1007 (talk) 09:49, 23 October 2020 (UTC)

  Not done. You're suggesting removing sourced material in favor of a snippet of lyrics with no context. –Deacon Vorbis (carbon • videos) 14:24, 23 October 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 27 October 2020

In context,

after

"Some of Tupac's song lyrics suggest a belief in a god,[54] perhaps in the manner of deism.[55] Apparently not believing in Heaven and Hell as typified, he perhaps believed in karma.[56]"

add following sentence to clarify above otherwise misleading second-hand citations, in lieu of this biography subject's own words, citing his writing as a primary-source reference, in context:

As to Tupac's believe in "a god", we may hear him in his own words, written before his death, in his 1995 tune "So Many Tears", that "I shall not fear no man but God, though I walk through the valley of death..Please God walk with me...and take me to Heaven..Is there heaven for a G? Remember me..I know my destiny is Hell, where did I fail?..Please Lord forgive me for my sins, cause here I come..beggin' for the Lord to let me in to Heaven's door." DocRock1007 (talk) 00:41, 27 October 2020 (UTC)

  Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 02:25, 27 October 2020 (UTC)

Huh?

What is "prevent involuntary reactions injurious" supposed to mean? Seven Pandas (talk) 14:14, 27 October 2020 (UTC)

Probably something like "prevent further injury from involuntary reactions" such as swelling but whatever it meant, it failed verification and I therefore removed it. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 18:58, 27 October 2020 (UTC)

Deletion Request

Of the number of errors detected in the little that I've read on this page, there is a major deletion that could take place while not detracting from the article.

It relates to the section "Shootings of Shakur - November 1994".

The deletion should take place from after citation [144], which appears at the end of the sentence, "In the lobby, three men initiated robbery at gunpoint, whereupon Tupac, resisting, was shot."

It is fine for the section to end there. The sentence following makes no sense, stating that "shooting was the main motive [of the shooting]".

An alternative to deleting this sentence is substituting the word "shooting" for an actual motive.

The paragraph following that sentence is equally dubious, lacking dates and implying time frames and dates that don't seem to measure up. It also seems irrelevant to the topic. There is citation of what seems to be some very general "this day in history" triva page that doesn't actually back up what is stated in the paragraph.

It speaks about February 6 1995:

"In 1995, rapper Tupac Shakur was sentenced to one-and-a-half to four-and-a-half years in prison on a sexual assault charge."

More details about the situation can be found via the following, more credible source: https://www.nytimes.com/1995/02/08/nyregion/rapper-faces-prison-term-for-sex-abuse.html

Still, there is no mention of the Quad studio shootings 3 MONTHS (not days) earlier or turning up to court in bandages and a wheelchair.

Apart from the allegations and charges not being related to the November 1994 shootings (unless this can be supported and conveyed correctly) the paragraph is poorly written, almost suspiciously. In it, the year 1993 is written as "19993" and the word "convinced" is used instead of "convicted".

Please do the needful.

Here is a copy of the whole section in question as it appears in the article as of May 19 2020:

"On November 29, 1994, while in New York, Tupac was recording verses for a mixtape of Ron G.[135] Tupac was repeatedly distracted by his beeper.[135] It was music manager James "Jimmy Henchman" Rosemond, reportedly offering $7 000 for Tupac to stop by Quad Studios, in Times Square, that very night to record a verse for his client Little Shawn.[87][135] Tupac was leery, but, needing cash to offset steepening legal costs, took the gig. Tupac arrived with Stretch and another or two. In the lobby, three men initiated robbery at gunpoint, whereupon Tupac, resisting, was shot.[144] Shakur speculated that shooting was the main motive.[145][146]

Three hours after surgery, against doctor's advice, Shakur checked out of Bellevue Hospital Center. The next day, in a Manhattan courtroom bandaged in a wheelchair, he received the jury's verdict in his ongoing criminal trial for a November 19993 incident in his hotel room. Convinced of three counts of molestation, he was acquitted of six other charges, including sodomy and gun charges.[147]"" NotPedanticReally (talk) 19:14, 18 May 2020 (UTC)


TUPAC'S SEXAUL ASSAULT CONVICTION--- More context is needed here. Tupac was acquitted of the most serious charges and was found guilty of "1st Degree Sexual Assault", a Class D (Felony), which is basically forcible touching. It should also be noted that none of the other 3 men's trials were carried out and any charges that were filed were dropped. It's also important to note that Tupac maintained his innocence. Also, the 1 1/2-4 year sentence, by most legal standards, was excessive. Also one of his most notable speeches came when he addressed the judge. Why is this page protected? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 167.187.101.240 (talk) 16:10, 8 December 2020 (UTC)

"best rapper ever alive"

Please remove the story about the "best rapper alive" mention. The female politician is not an expert about rap, and not an expert about music.
Also, she is not an expert about "West Coast girls" (or that many of those girls might be unsure which artists died 24 years ago).
I don't think there are enough arguments for why that story should be in an encyclopedia. Regards! 89.8.177.111 (talk) 08:15, 29 January 2021 (UTC)

Tupac Shakur

Should include "greatest rapper ever". Gishe95 (talk) 12:46, 12 February 2021 (UTC)

pac for life

rather die young than old and broke Djquincy (talk) 23:35, 27 February 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 9 April 2021

He has sold more than 100 million records worldwide. 2600:387:C:6E1B:0:0:0:C (talk) 06:40, 9 April 2021 (UTC)

  Not done. His certified sales figure is 58 million, which means 100 million isn't possible. Binksternet (talk) 06:50, 9 April 2021 (UTC)

Crooks

Where does his birth surname come from if it was neither his mother's nor his father's? If this info is available would be good to have it in the article. Ivar the Boneful (talk) 10:35, 18 July 2021 (UTC)

Where and When was Tupac Shakur shot?

After the brawl event that had happened between Bruce Seldon and Mike Tyson, Tupac Shakur had went to a nightclub called 662 with Marion "Suge" Knight which was owned by him. Shakur had disclosed to his named girlfriend Kidada Jones, and his involvement in the Anderson fight, that was previously had promised to return to her after entering to the MGM Grand and having her stay in a vehicle. Shakur left with Knight after changing into different clothes. At 11:15pm, a white, four-door, late model Cadillac vehicle had pulled up to Knight's right side of the passenger seat. The shooter had seated at the back of the Cadillac, rolled down the window and rapidly fired gunshots from a .40 S&W Glock 22 at Shakur's BMW. Shakur was hit four times – twice in the chest, once in the arm, and once in the thigh. One of the bullets went into Shakur's right lung. Knight was hit in the head by a fragmentation which is known as a bomb. We have lost the greatest rapper and artist in America. [!-- Template:Unsigned -->— Preceding unsigned comment added by Kyle sims13 (talkcontribs) 02:54, 16 June 2021 (UTC)

Wrong article. Details on the death are covered in Murder of Tupac Shakur. Dimadick (talk) 07:53, 16 June 2021 (UTC) I believe his death was inspired in LA, His death was caried out in Atlanta i believe.

Semi-protected edit request on 10 August 2021 (2)

suggested changes below this line, preferably in a "change X to Y" format. Other editors need to know what to add or remove. Blank edit requests will be declined. -->

protected/state update requested Bare automatic89 (talk) 23:42, 10 August 2021 (UTC)

Criminal and civil cases

This section of the article has a lot of inaccuracies.

Shooting of police officers

The two officers were allegedly harassing a black motorist and the cops were the first to fire at Tupac according to some accounts. Why is there no mention of all this information? Also, they were on drugs and their guns were stolen from the evidence room.

Assault of Allen Hughes

Tupac was convicted of assaulting Allen Hughes, but Hughes himself stated that he fired Shakur because "he was bigger than the film". Also, Shakur was best friends with the Hughes Brothers and they directed some of his early music videos, so it's doubtful he would assault Allen for no apparent reason.

Sexual assault charges

Tupac was charged with sexual assault of a woman in his hotel room. There are multiple inconsistencies in her story. She at first claimed Shakur left before the assault, but then she said that she was held by Shakur while gangster Haitian Jack and a man named Trevor raped her. If Tupac didn't actually participate on the assault, why was he and his manager (who also didn't do anything) the only ones convicted? Also, James Rosemont and Haitian Jack (who allegedly raped Jackson) were also allegedly responsible for Tupac's 1994 shooting and the woman is believed to have been associated with these two before the assault. Why is there no mention of this on the article?

Ayanna Jackson also was interviewed by VladTV. Most people accused Jackson of lying and it's true her interview was very confusing to say the least. For example, she claimed she wore different clothing than the clothes she wore on a photography alleged to have been taken the same day the assault occured. Why is the possibility of Shakur being innocent not mentioned on the article. It was even depicted on his biopic All Eyez on Me.

What do you think? Dadatyttyt (talk) 10:14, 16 September 2021 (UTC)

2pac grave

I think we should add 2pac’s grave Wikilover126 (talk) 14:50, 18 October 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 2 November 2021

I think we should add and often cited as one of the greatest rappers of all time. 2.98.221.49 (talk) 18:37, 2 November 2021 (UTC)

  Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 18:51, 2 November 2021 (UTC)
what about the request is unclear? FMSky (talk) 08:59, 4 November 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 9 December 2021

needs a death date in top line. Article makes it appear he is still alive. Also show erroneous dates artist active through 2015, when he had been dead for decades. 68.47.26.69 (talk) 15:04, 9 December 2021 (UTC)

  Done Vandalism reverted ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 15:11, 9 December 2021 (UTC)

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Academic appraisal

in the academic evaluation, other academic opinions of great scholars of the world should be added Ballerin11 (talk) 01:09, 28 February 2022 (UTC)

Description bio and artistry

Someone needs to expound on his legacy a bit more please Add things like Artistry, vocal style and why is it that when some calls him greatest, it gets removed?

E.g. He was one of the leading figures of Gangsta rap in the 1990s. He is widely considered one of the greatest… Confunxion (talk) 08:37, 10 March 2022 (UTC)

Why not not "one of the most influential artists"?

Pac's influence is beyond rap, his worldwide influence is gigantic. Ballataclassica12 (talk) 16:21, 21 March 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 2 June 2022

201.188.133.205 (talk) 04:31, 2 June 2022 (UTC)

It seems that he is alive, sources;[1][2][3]

  Not done: Those sources do not say he is alive. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 10:58, 2 June 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 9 July 2022

I think the C. DeLores Tucker lawsuit should be removed as this was filed against the estate in 1997 after Pac passed away. Source[1] Aaron106 (talk) 09:50, 9 July 2022 (UTC)

  Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{edit semi-protected}} template. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 21:26, 11 July 2022 (UTC)

Namesake?

The media has recently confirmed that a woman from Florida has the SAME name as Tupac. This is FALSE. Source[2] 2600:6C40:5400:55A6:E19A:DACD:1BF0:637F (talk) 02:27, 10 September 2022 (UTC)

References

  1. ^ "Rap critic sues Shakur's estate for defamation". Los Angeles Times. August 1997.
  2. ^ "WOMAN NAMED TUPAC SHAKUR ARRESTED FOR ASSAULTING MAN WITH BASEBALL BAT".

Misogyny

This article whitewashes and dismisses his rape and general misogyny. Ironically, contributing to the 'martyr' reputation. Bettepage13 (talk) 00:20, 26 October 2022 (UTC)

There must be addition

WESSSSIDE (talk) 07:51, 22 November 2022 (UTC)

There must be Addition WESSSSIDE (talk) 07:52, 22 November 2022 (UTC)

  Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Cannolis (talk) 07:56, 22 November 2022 (UTC)

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== Missing Albums == Tupac did not write Dear Moma and all eyes on me, hit ‘‘em up, a ghost writer was paid to write songs. She was 20 year old young lady who grew up in the projects.

There are missing albums, including the album "1 in 21": https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/165007159851?epid=15050157118&hash=item266b31722b:g:yqEAAOSwuYZhELBZ&amdata=enc%3AAQAHAAAA4IUELH56STzmIEt7Crv739EArzjHFvMiXLVjZLmZp1su35fGLjWgOzZVsVF1%2BDC8p%2BhrOHEr9FJOhhtJe6dZHJv45Hgt6xGOiv1x9t8Q7SJ7s8eGespn1UciNXGeOX5xZNMUk%2FC1yZaCFoIK%2Byme7GSkj9dekS7vaQSBg%2BMDUtSKZcRUxHMFVa1%2FWFIe5Eytcc2jkLSiBzbe3jDYc9G5hzhSTCGunr8nno7cuiSZTG5CZd0Fi9Tjc6h1LGV71leojtFa9bSWNPpeP%2BJICFIQFEKX%2FBWxPSmgSlFscwNC9kYu%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR-S0-P61YQ Http204 (talk) 11:03, 14 January 2023 (UTC)

Tupac released another album today and that missing too but I don't know if it would really count because its an extension to another one LDimno (talk) 16:21, 17 February 2023 (UTC)

Reading During His Career, Marijuana, and Alcohol

This sentence in the "Sexual assault case, prison sentence, appeal and release" section "While imprisoned, he began reading again, which he had been unable to do as his career progressed due to his marijuana and alcohol habits." has no reference. There is a reference for the following sentence, but that does not reference his reading habits. Unless someone has a specific reference, I think this sentence is a broad generalization that should be removed. It is very likely that sentence is false and seemingly impossible to prove that he did not read at all while his career progressed. Charles Jeffrey Danoff (talk) 14:50, 21 February 2023 (UTC)

"Tupac (rapper)" listed at Redirects for discussion

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Revise this entry please

Could somebody with access revise the writing to sound more like an adult and not a sixth grader? 2601:643:8D00:970:7157:87D5:E33D:B9DD (talk) 04:17, 16 May 2023 (UTC)

If you have specific suggestions for improvement, please feel free to make an edit request. Seraphimblade Talk to me 04:25, 16 May 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 8 June 2023

Hi can I edit this, there I a great deal missing about this brilliant artist. Esdra123 (talk) 10:27, 8 June 2023 (UTC)

  Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Paper9oll (🔔📝) 12:55, 8 June 2023 (UTC)

"2Pca" listed at Redirects for discussion

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Adding balance

The page has too much emphasis on his “positive” messages, but it’s a well known fact that he was also criticised for many of his lyrics (violence, misogyny, etc). Ziggy Wiggy Figgy (talk) 14:16, 16 August 2023 (UTC)

False narratives

The wiki on 2 pac claims that “he abandoned introspective lyrics for gangster rap” when he released all eyes on me. This is false in 1994 2 years before all eyez literally titled Thug Life. And the songs on there are definitely gangster rap. What the article should say is he has always blended soft introspective songs with gangster rap Janfazio83 (talk) 20:58, 16 August 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 19 August 2023

He is the most influential and successful rappers of all time not one of 110.175.69.98 (talk) 08:41, 19 August 2023 (UTC)

unsourced --FMSky (talk) 08:42, 19 August 2023 (UTC)

Article editing

This article is needs MUCH editing, as it contains numerous grammatical errors. I do appreciate the effort, but this MAN deserves the ultimate effort of his accolades being written. No disrespect 2601:147:8500:2810:8D08:4E11:CFB3:2A17 (talk) 02:15, 9 September 2023 (UTC)

Sex offender

he wasn't only a rapper, but also a sex offender, it should be noted in the top description 2A06:C701:4904:3E00:A0B5:915A:624A:2B09 (talk) 23:15, 29 September 2023 (UTC)

Agree that something about his criminal convictions is appropriate. Riposte97 (talk) 00:47, 30 September 2023 (UTC)

Image

@Sami0015 The new image is in the public domain. The old one is listed under "fair use" and is protected by copyright. Per WP:NFCI, Non-free images that reasonably could be replaced by free content images are not suitable for Wikipedia. Bremps... 21:38, 7 February 2024 (UTC)

Reactions at the time of his death

I'm disappointed by the lack of reactions by famous names when he died. What did B.I.G. say? Dre? Cube? It could cover a whole section. Mac Dreamstate (talk) 21:55, 17 February 2024 (UTC)

Disambiguation tags

Why are we using (Tupac Shakur song) and (Tupac Shakur album) disambiguation tags for songs and albums that were released under his stage name "2Pac?" This was discussed at RM in 2010 [1], but this goes against naming convention. See WP:ALBUMDAB/WP:SONGDAB, which states that the disambiguation tag includes the performers "as they are credited on the album cover." 162 etc. (talk) 23:02, 5 March 2024 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 9 March 2024

Hi, i would like to update this because i feel like there are some things left out about Tupac Shakur that i would like to add. Thank You Ezradaniels (talk) 20:05, 9 March 2024 (UTC)

  Not done: this is not the right page to request additional user rights. You may reopen this request with the specific changes to be made and someone may add them for you, or if you have an account, you can wait until you are autoconfirmed and edit the page yourself. Tollens (talk) 22:01, 9 March 2024 (UTC)

Wrong Date

Wikipedia describes that he was in Vegas on the 7th but he couldn't have been shot on the 7th and died on the 13th, he would have to have been shot on the 12th of September 114.23.207.191 (talk) 04:24, 18 January 2024 (UTC)

He lingered a bit in the hospital before passing. Bremps... 02:47, 7 February 2024 (UTC)
2PAC DIED 6 DAYZ AFTER THE SHOOTING. Timothyzic (talk) 09:29, 18 March 2024 (UTC)

CHANGE THAT UGLY PHOTO PLEASE!!!!

HEY, HI. PLEASE CHANGE THIS PHOTO, THIS IS NOT A PHOTO FROM HIS DRIVE LICENCE, IT'S PHOTO FROM PRISON, FROM THE BEGINNING OF HIS SENTENCE IN CLINTON CF. I THINK TUPAC SHAKUR AS AN ICON AND THE GREAT ARTIST DESERVES FOR BETTER PIC OF HIM ON THE MAIN THINGS SUCH AS WIKIPEDIA. REGARDS FROM POLAND Timothyzic (talk) 10:31, 18 March 2024 (UTC)