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Kristina Satter listed at Requested moves
A requested move discussion has been initiated for Kristina Satter to be moved to Tina Satter. This page is of interest to this WikiProject and interested members may want to participate in the discussion here. —RMCD bot 23:22, 28 May 2015 (UTC)
WikiProject New York theater
A long inactive WikiProject, WikiProject New York theater, has been moved into a subpage of WikiProject New York City following a requested move here. The page is now located WP:WikiProject New York City/Theatre here, and it was assumed in the disscussion that this will become of interest to this WikiProject. Kharkiv07 (T) 02:34, 30 May 2015 (UTC)
RfC: Nikola Tesla
An RFC: Should all discussions and proposals about Nikola Tesla's nationality, ethnicity and country of birth (broadly construed) be limited to the sub-page: Talk:Nikola Tesla/Nationality and ethnicity? has been posted here. Interested editors are invited to comment.- MrX 20:55, 1 June 2015 (UTC)
Mattress Performance
There is a discussion at the BLP noticeboard which may be relevant to this wikiproject. --Sammy1339 (talk) 00:51, 9 June 2015 (UTC)
Opinions requested
Talk:New York Academy of Medicine#Lede image BMK (talk) 23:02, 1 June 2015 (UTC)
- Resolved. BMK (talk) 02:17, 9 June 2015 (UTC)
RfC - Mattress Performance (Carry That Weight)
There's currently an open RfC on a topic that may be of interest to readers of this wikiproject.--BoboMeowCat (talk) 03:33, 28 June 2015 (UTC)
City names in infoboxes
I feel like this must have been discussed before... As many of you know mailing addresses in New York City may go by the borough (123 Main St, Brooklyn, NY) as the boroughs share street addresses. This seems to counteract the established standard of "City, State, Country" in infoboxes. An easy way out is to just put "Borough, New York City, New York, US" but that could be too long aesthetically. So is "Borough, New York, US" acceptable provided there is ambiguity as to what borough the subject resides in? — MusikAnimal talk 18:01, 18 June 2015 (UTC)
- The USPS's addressing policies are not consistent throughout the city. All mailing addresses in Manhattan are "New York, New York", and in Brooklyn it's "Brooklyn, New York", while in Queens each separate post office is used, as in "Astoria, New York" or "Flushing, New York". (I can't speak with any certainty about the Bronx and Staten Island). Since New York City (and, BTW, that's its official name, "New York City" or "the City of New York") is one of a handful of "world cities" which should be recognizable to people all over the globe, I avoid using "New York, New York" and "Brooklyn, New York" with preference for "Manhattan, New York City" and "Brooklyn, New York City", or, if the neighborhood is known and uncontentious "Tribeca, Manhattan, New York City", for instance, or "Carroll Gardens, Brooklyn, New York City". (The "location" parameters in an infobox should give the reader the actual physical location, and not simply a generalized mailing address. I agree that tacking on the state and country makes for quite a long string, and, with the "world city" rationale in mind, I usually don't bother with them at all as being unnecessary. BMK (talk) 20:31, 18 June 2015 (UTC)
- Why not just go with the USPS official names? That seems like the most straightforward solution to me. Epic Genius (talk) 01:15, 20 June 2015 (UTC)
- It may be a "straightforward solution", but it's one which is not always going to provide the correct answer - unfortunaely, life is messier than that. USPS names are the names of post offices, not necessarily the names of the cities they're in. They were designed for the delivery of mail, not necessarily as identifiers of the locale, and have been superseded by ZIP codes. Many places exist that are in one village or town or city and yet have their mail handled by a post office in another place because it's closer to the address. To take an example you're familiar with, mail to addresses in Marble Hill will be delivered correctly whether they're addressed to "Marble Hill, New York" or "Marble Hill, Bronx", as long as the ZIP code is correct. BMK (talk) 04:24, 20 June 2015 (UTC)
- I just noticed that there are some places, like "Red Hook, New York", where using just "New York" can be ambiguous (it can refer to Red Hook, Brooklyn; Red Hook (village), New York; or the town of Red Hook, New York), so I understand that that's why the correct ZIP code is needed. In that case, we can do "Manhattan, New York" for Manhattan; "Brooklyn, New York" for Brooklyn; and "Queens, New York" for Queens, in order to keep consistent with other places outside of NYC – like Albany, New York, or Buffalo, New York – since apparently only the ZIP code has to be correct. People from out of NYC will be more familiar with the higher-level administrative divisions (boroughs) of Manhattan, Brooklyn, and Queens, than they will be with lower-level divisions (neighborhoods) of Astoria or Flushing. Epic Genius (talk) 15:53, 20 June 2015 (UTC)
- Except that the city name is not "New York" (which in any case is ambiguous) but "New York City". "New York, New York" is a postal address only. BMK (talk) 18:08, 20 June 2015 (UTC)
- I actually meant "New York" as a state name, not a city name. For example, "Manhattan, New York" as opposed to "Manhattan, Kansas" or "Manhattan, Illinois". Epic Genius (talk) 20:23, 20 June 2015 (UTC)
- I thnk it's much more important to indicate that the place is in New York City then that it's in New York state. As I said, there are a handful of cities -- Paris and London, for instance -- which have this status. They are exceptions to the usual City, State, Country formulation. BMK (talk) 20:29, 20 June 2015 (UTC)
- I think that if you include a link to Manhattan, or to Brooklyn, Queens, the Bronx, or Staten Island for that matter, the reader will realize that these are in NYC. Besides, the names of the 5 boroughs are known around the world, and most English speakers know that Manhattan or Brooklyn is in New York City. If not, then "New York City" can be appended.However, even though either "Manhattan, New York City" or "Manhattan, New York" can be used, "Manhattan, United States" cannot. Epic Genius (talk) 20:33, 20 June 2015 (UTC)
- I thnk it's much more important to indicate that the place is in New York City then that it's in New York state. As I said, there are a handful of cities -- Paris and London, for instance -- which have this status. They are exceptions to the usual City, State, Country formulation. BMK (talk) 20:29, 20 June 2015 (UTC)
- I actually meant "New York" as a state name, not a city name. For example, "Manhattan, New York" as opposed to "Manhattan, Kansas" or "Manhattan, Illinois". Epic Genius (talk) 20:23, 20 June 2015 (UTC)
- Except that the city name is not "New York" (which in any case is ambiguous) but "New York City". "New York, New York" is a postal address only. BMK (talk) 18:08, 20 June 2015 (UTC)
- I just noticed that there are some places, like "Red Hook, New York", where using just "New York" can be ambiguous (it can refer to Red Hook, Brooklyn; Red Hook (village), New York; or the town of Red Hook, New York), so I understand that that's why the correct ZIP code is needed. In that case, we can do "Manhattan, New York" for Manhattan; "Brooklyn, New York" for Brooklyn; and "Queens, New York" for Queens, in order to keep consistent with other places outside of NYC – like Albany, New York, or Buffalo, New York – since apparently only the ZIP code has to be correct. People from out of NYC will be more familiar with the higher-level administrative divisions (boroughs) of Manhattan, Brooklyn, and Queens, than they will be with lower-level divisions (neighborhoods) of Astoria or Flushing. Epic Genius (talk) 15:53, 20 June 2015 (UTC)
- It may be a "straightforward solution", but it's one which is not always going to provide the correct answer - unfortunaely, life is messier than that. USPS names are the names of post offices, not necessarily the names of the cities they're in. They were designed for the delivery of mail, not necessarily as identifiers of the locale, and have been superseded by ZIP codes. Many places exist that are in one village or town or city and yet have their mail handled by a post office in another place because it's closer to the address. To take an example you're familiar with, mail to addresses in Marble Hill will be delivered correctly whether they're addressed to "Marble Hill, New York" or "Marble Hill, Bronx", as long as the ZIP code is correct. BMK (talk) 04:24, 20 June 2015 (UTC)
- Why not just go with the USPS official names? That seems like the most straightforward solution to me. Epic Genius (talk) 01:15, 20 June 2015 (UTC)
@Beyond My Ken and Epicgenius: Thanks for the input, guys! I'm late to get back to you, I'm realizing how bad I am at this watchlist thing. Anyway, this question arose from a dispute at Brooklyn Nets. Here, there's no question the team belongs to the borough of Brooklyn, and at least one author (surely others) have opted with "New York City, New York" as opposed to "Brooklyn, New York" or "Brooklyn, New York City, New York" – and here the US ismplied by the affiliation with the NBA (though NBA also has teams in Canada!). So I guess to bring this discussion a step further: Should using the borough name as the city be limited to cases where it as ambiguous? For instance, at the time of writing, Flushing Meadows–Corona Park is listed as located in "Queens, NY, United States"; then we have Grand Army Plaza listed as "Brooklyn, New York City" and a different field listing the state of "New York", and Medgar Evers College as "New York City (Crown Heights, Brooklyn), New York, United States"; Meanwhile we have Central Park listed as "Manhatan in New York City, United States". I guess the question is, should we bother with any sort of consistency? Or perhaps it varies based on subject and not the scope of New York City, such as parks versus sports teams and colleges? — MusikAnimal talk 02:10, 26 June 2015 (UTC)
- @MusikAnimal: The infobox in the "Medgar Evers College" article was an experimental addition of the neighborhood and borough, besides just "New York City, New York, United States". Most infoboxes about NYC subjects are like those in the "Grand Army Plaza" and "Central Park" articles, which indicate "New York City" as an administrative division behind "United States". Epic Genius (talk) 02:16, 26 June 2015 (UTC)
- Epicgenius: I do not think your generalization about "most infoboxes" is correct, either numerically or stylistically. MusikAnimal: "Consistency is the hobgoblin of small minds." (Emerson) I'd go with Brooklyn, New York City. As a world city, New York state and United States are both implied. BMK (talk) 03:41, 26 June 2015 (UTC)
- Actually, the format with NYC linked in the infoboxes is the most common. Indeed, my generalization is correct numerically, unless you can pull up evidence that another format prevails. Epic Genius (talk) 15:04, 26 June 2015 (UTC)
- Minor point, three of the mainland Queens GPOs or Section Centers, 111 Long Island City, 113 Flushing, and 114 Jamaica, are former Townships, though Newtown's name has been replaced by LIC. 116 Rockaway is a former panhandle of Town of Hempstead. So, once upon a time, Post Office boundaries followed municipal ones. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jim.henderson (talk • contribs)
- Cool. So that's probably why any zip code numbered 111xx is often labeled as "Long Island City, New York" whether it's in Astoria, Sunnyside, or somewhere else. Never realized that. Epic Genius (talk) 23:41, 28 June 2015 (UTC)
- Always more to learn. I picked up much NY geography, working as a provisional Distribution Clerk in Brooklyn GPO during the Christmas rush of 1968. Jim.henderson (talk) 11:52, 30 June 2015 (UTC)
- Yeah... always good to keep picking knowledge, isn't it? ;-) Epic Genius (talk) 02:28, 1 July 2015 (UTC)
- Epicgenius: I do not think your generalization about "most infoboxes" is correct, either numerically or stylistically. MusikAnimal: "Consistency is the hobgoblin of small minds." (Emerson) I'd go with Brooklyn, New York City. As a world city, New York state and United States are both implied. BMK (talk) 03:41, 26 June 2015 (UTC)
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Help with MetLife
Hi, New Yorkers! I've been working on behalf of MetLife to suggest improvements to their article, and I'm looking for interested editors to join the discussion. A few weeks ago, I proposed some changes to the article's History section, but thus far I haven't received any feedback. Since the article is of interest to this WikiProject, as MetLife originated in New York and is headquartered there, I'm hoping editors here might be willing to take a look. Because of my COI, I will not be making any edits myself and I'm looking for editors to review my work. If you're able to help, I welcome any input. Thanks, 16912 Rhiannon (Talk · COI) 21:51, 8 July 2015 (UTC)
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Columbia University sculptures
I've identified a few sculptures on the Columbia University campus without Wikipedia articles, if any project members are interested in helping:
- John Howard Van Amringe (sculpture), William Ordway Partridge (1861-1930)
- Letters (sculpture)
- Life Force (sculpture)
- Tight Rope Walker (sculpture)
- Three-Way Piece: Points
Pageview stats
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NARA Geographic Error
This isn't the first time the National Archives and Record Administration has been wrong about something, but to those of us with ties to the New York Tri-State area, the mistakes in the description of this image should be pretty obvious. ---------User:DanTD (talk) 03:28, 2 August 2015 (UTC)
- Possibly some confusion with Hunt's Point in the Bronx, which is almost directly across the East River from LaGuardia (with Riker's Island between them)? BMK (talk) 06:21, 2 August 2015 (UTC)
- Even then, a renaming is definitely needed, as well as a change in description. Epic Genius (talk) 18:21, 2 August 2015 (UTC)
- Well, maybe this is the name of a dead neighborhood like Morris Park and Hillside. Speaking of neighborhoods that don't seem to exist anymore, anyone have any info on Woodstock and Foxhurst in the Bronx?---------User:DanTD (talk) 18:13, 30 August 2015 (UTC)
help needed on ambiguous links in NYC articles
Hi, there are currently 46 articles in WikiProject NYC that have one or more ambiguous links needing to be fixed. Editors at the wp:DPL project, me included, are fighting towards elimination of all-but-brand-new ambiguous links in Wikipedia within a year now, and could use your help!
The articles with ambiguous links to fix include:
(cs-1) 14th_Regiment_(New_York_State_Militia) - find and FIX ambiguous link(s)- (cs-2) Alan_F._Horn - find and FIX ambiguous link(s)
(cs-3) Albanian_Roots - find and FIX ambiguous link(s)- (cs-4) Becky_Yee - find and FIX ambiguous link(s)
(cs-5) Ben_Barenholtz - find and FIX ambiguous link(s)(cs-6) Calvert_Coggeshall - find and FIX ambiguous link(s)- (cs-7) Carl_Bergmann_(musician) - find and FIX ambiguous link(s)
- (cs-8) Claudia_Wagner - find and FIX ambiguous link(s)
- (cs-9) Donaldson_Awards - find and FIX ambiguous link(s)
(cs-10) Doyle_New_York - find and FIX ambiguous link(s);
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It would be great to see the NYC articles get struck off wp:DPL's big working list! TIA for any help. :) cheers, --doncram 12:28, 6 September 2015 (UTC)
- 5 done, 41 remain, as seen by running the CatScan search. --doncram 21:05, 12 September 2015 (UTC)
- 4 done (1 was dead), 36 remain. Epic Genius (talk) 01:43, 3 October 2015 (UTC)
- DPL points for WikiProject NYC, updates hourly. — Dispenser 15:57, 6 October 2015 (UTC)
- Cool, thanks. Epic Genius (talk) 14:39, 9 October 2015 (UTC)
- DPL points for WikiProject NYC, updates hourly. — Dispenser 15:57, 6 October 2015 (UTC)
- 4 done (1 was dead), 36 remain. Epic Genius (talk) 01:43, 3 October 2015 (UTC)
Studebaker Building in Bedford-Stuyvesant vs. Crown Heights
Recently I had a discussion with User:Beyond My Ken about a commons category he created for the NYCL-registered Studebaker Building in Crown Heights, and I mentioned the fact that there was another Studebaker Building on Dean Street in Bedford-Stuyvesant. This one doesn't have such landmark status, but does anybody have any info about it anyhow? ---------User:DanTD (talk) 02:37, 22 October 2015 (UTC)
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My apologies for the quality of the images,...
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.. but as long as people know this building exists...
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.. that's all that matters.
- What's the address? BMK (talk) 02:47, 22 October 2015 (UTC)
- Sorry, I see 1000 Dean, is that right? BMK (talk) 02:48, 22 October 2015 (UTC)
- The city's GIS map is not very helpful [1]. It lists the building with a date of "1965 (estimated)" which is obviously not right - it most probably reflects the oldest item in the DOB's archives.The building's website isn't any help either, it just says the building was "Formerly the Studebaker Service Station", which at least implies that it wasn't a showroom. BMK (talk) 03:02, 22 October 2015 (UTC)
- Or a factory. Something about that building doesn't convince me that it's from 1965 either. The design is minimalist enough, but it seems too Art Deco to me. Plus, Studebaker was pretty much limping towards its death at the time, and moved to Canada just before then. I find it hard to believe they would even consider building anything that big in the USA back then, let alone in New York City. ---------User:DanTD (talk) 15:24, 22 October 2015 (UTC)
- Yeah, exactly the reasons I didn't think 1965 was a good estimate. The GIS map is OK on dates when it's definite about them, but not so much when it uses estimates. BTW, I also checked the AIA guide, and it doesn't include the building, so no joy there. BMK (talk) 18:27, 22 October 2015 (UTC)
Discussion about units on NYC hotel article
See here. BMK (talk) 18:44, 22 October 2015 (UTC)
Did Einstein have a ticker-tape parade??
I'm a new user working on a tricky case. Check out the discussion here.--Oksuzanne (talk) 20:13, 14 November 2015 (UTC)
Winter scene on the Bronx River
Is this scene along the Bronx River in The Bronx, or somewhere in Westchester County? ---------User:DanTD (talk) 02:39, 23 November 2015 (UTC)
Help with Ogilvy & Mather
Hi, I've been working on improvements for the article of advertising agency Ogilvy & Mather. The agency is headquartered in NYC and the article falls under the scope of this project, so I thought editors here might be interested in reviewing my work. I will not be making any edits myself, because I'm working on behalf of the company and have a financial conflict of interest.
Most recently, I proposed a new Major work section on the Talk page to replace the current Notable campaigns section. My draft significantly expands what's already in the article and I'm hoping an editor here might be willing to take a look and give feedback if they have any. Thanks in advance, Heatherer (talk) 01:05, 15 January 2016 (UTC)
PR
Lady Gaga is currently up for a peer review. See Wikipedia:Peer review/Lady Gaga/archive4. Snuggums (talk / edits) 03:55, 12 March 2016 (UTC)
I was surprised no one has yet created an article on this newly built performance space in Brooklyn. Here are refs if anyone is interest in creating an article: [2], [3], [4], [5].Best.4meter4 (talk) 23:54, 15 March 2016 (UTC)
Another image to identify
I didn't take this pic, but it's vaguely familiar to me. I thought I saw something like this near Union Square back in September 2015. ---------User:DanTD (talk) 13:19, 20 March 2016 (UTC)
- It's 486 Broadway, also known as 437-441 Broome Street, in the SoHo neighborhood of Manhattan, New York City, built in 1885 as the Mechanics & Traders Bank, designed by the firm of Lamb & Rich in the Moorish and Romanesque Revival styles. (Sources: AIA Guide to NYC (4th ed.), NYCLPC SoHo - Cast Iron District Designation Report) This shot (and this one) shows the Broome Street facade. The building is right across Broome from the E.V. Haughwout Building. BMK (talk) 04:14, 21 March 2016 (UTC)
- @DanTD: Pinging DanTD. BMK (talk) 00:38, 22 March 2016 (UTC)
- I read this earlier. Thanks. ---------User:DanTD (talk) 01:47, 22 March 2016 (UTC)
Farragut Houses
Does anyone want to help me clean up the Farragut Houses article, or at least add more information? I already cleaned out the page of unnecessary statistics, irrelevant information that is pertinent to other topics, grammar errors, WP:NOTNEWS, WP:COATRACK, WP:NOTDIRECTORY, etc. The article is half the size that it was earlier today, so I'd really appreciate if someone could give this another opinion. Thanks in advance. epicgenius (talk) 02:10, 29 April 2016 (UTC)
Historic markers as Copyvio? Really?
The plaque at Arbitration Rock was recently tagged as a WP:COPYVIO, but to me this just looks like a historic plaque. ---------User:DanTD (talk) 16:38, 15 April 2016 (UTC)
- It looks like the plaque itself is copyrighted. As per C:COM:FOP, in the United States, 2D sculpture, 3D sculpture, and text, as well as architectural design features and artwork, may fall under copyright law. We can save this image if we re-upload it under non-free criteria, though. epicgenius (talk) 00:55, 27 April 2016 (UTC)
- Note, though, that if the plaque were a product of the US Federal Government it may well be in the public domain. I suspect that it was produced by a local government, though, so is presumably protected by copyright. Pburka (talk) 02:34, 29 April 2016 (UTC)
- It doesn't look like the work of the federal government. It actually looks like a borough government's plaque, or even worse for copyright, a privately owned plaque. epicgenius (talk) 03:32, 29 April 2016 (UTC)
- Note, though, that if the plaque were a product of the US Federal Government it may well be in the public domain. I suspect that it was produced by a local government, though, so is presumably protected by copyright. Pburka (talk) 02:34, 29 April 2016 (UTC)
Requesting review of proposed changes
I work for Bounce Exchange. The article had some problems, which I have tried to address in a recent edit. I have been trying to discuss them on the article’s talk page, but further perspectives would be helpful -Cxob (talk) 00:16, 7 May 2016 (UTC)
I just want to let WikiProject NYC, that there is a proposal for a World Trade Center WikiProject. Please voice your support/opposition/opinion. Thanks, CookieMonster755 📞 ✉ ✓ 19:45, 23 May 2016 (UTC)
Auto-assessment of article classes
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George Washington Bridge Sidewalk
Don't we have more images of the pedestrian paths along the George Washington Bridge? Because if we had more we could split them off into a new commons subcat. ---------User:DanTD (talk) 20:43, 14 June 2016 (UTC)
- I have one that I haven't posted yet - it's really of the west tower, but the sidewalk is in there. The bridge is only a few blocks from me, so I can go down and take some shots if you'd like. BMK (talk) 21:09, 14 June 2016 (UTC)
- Just uploaded the one I had: File:George Washington Bridge west tower and south sidewalk seen from the west.jpg. BMK (talk) 21:16, 14 June 2016 (UTC)
- Sorry, I still intended to take some more shots of the walkway, but I haven't been able to get to it, and I'm going to be pretty backedup for the next 10 days. I'll try to do it after that. BMK (talk) 02:42, 29 June 2016 (UTC)
- Just uploaded the one I had: File:George Washington Bridge west tower and south sidewalk seen from the west.jpg. BMK (talk) 21:16, 14 June 2016 (UTC)
Hello, this is a question for WikiProject New York City. Does New Hyde Park, Nassau County, have unincorporated areas in Queens? I ask because there is a dispute going on at Talk:Omar_Mateen#Place_of_birth, along the lines that mass shooter Omar Mateen was born in New Hyde Park, Queens. Kylo, Rey, & Finn Consortium (talk) 01:15, 15 June 2016 (UTC)
- No, there is no way a village in Nassau could include any unincorporated sections of New York City, they would all have to be in Nassau. Now, that doesn't mean that there might not be a neighborhood of Queens which is called "New Hyde Park" because of its propinquity to the village in Nassau, but it could not in any way be official part of Nassau. BMK (talk) 01:31, 15 June 2016 (UTC)
- So look at this site, which says:
- 3. New Hyde Park
- New Hyde Park, Queens
- The Queens New Hyde Park contains only a handful of streets, so it's much smaller than its Nassau cousin. The two are nearly the same -- with mostly single-family homes built from the 1920s to 1950s. They are both great neighborhoods for families. They also share a zip code: 11040.
- New Hyde Park Village, Nassau County is an incorporated village just east of Floral Park.
- So, it's a neighborhood in Queens. Remember that Nassau County used to be part of Queens County, but was separated from it when Greater NYC was created. It sounds like they put the dividing line through a community (no official status) called New Hyde Park, so most of it ended up in Nassau and a rump part ended up in Queens. To find out where the guy was born, Nassau or Queens, you're going to need to know the address of his place of birth. BMK (talk) 01:37, 15 June 2016 (UTC)
- @Beyond My Ken: Exactly what I thought. But the zip code of New Hyde Park, which is 11040, has parts in both Nassau and Queens. What I'm thinking is that Mateen was born in Long Island Jewish Medical Center, which is in both Queens and Nassau. I'm still trying to find sources for that. The discussion is at Talk:Omar Mateen#Birth place again. Kylo, Rey, & Finn Consortium (talk) 01:10, 16 June 2016 (UTC)
- Yeah, the zips were assigned by the Feds for the convenience of the post offices and don't have to take into account county or city lines, and, obviously, as long as the portion of the hospital which is in each jurisdiction follows the applicable laws and regulations, there's not to stop them from building across the county line. (It may be apochryphal, but I've heard that there are houses in Maine in which part of the house is in the US and part is in Canada.) BMK (talk) 02:47, 29 June 2016 (UTC)
- @Beyond My Ken: Exactly what I thought. But the zip code of New Hyde Park, which is 11040, has parts in both Nassau and Queens. What I'm thinking is that Mateen was born in Long Island Jewish Medical Center, which is in both Queens and Nassau. I'm still trying to find sources for that. The discussion is at Talk:Omar Mateen#Birth place again. Kylo, Rey, & Finn Consortium (talk) 01:10, 16 June 2016 (UTC)
Please comment or read this Move Review
Hi there,
I'm attempting to let this project's members know of Wikipedia:Move review/Log/2016 June, where a Move Review is taking place. A Requested Move was implemented, moving New York to New York (state), which is now being contested. This should be of relevant interest to this WikiProject.
Best, ɱ (talk) · vbm · coi) 21:02, 25 June 2016 (UTC)
Alternative proposal
Please see Talk:New York (disambiguation)#Broad concept article proposal. TIA! Andrewa (talk) 01:53, 5 July 2016 (UTC)
Meaning of "Manhattan, New York" and similar mentions
Many articles list a New York borough as the birth or death place of a person or as the location of a landmark in the form "Manhattan, New York" or "Manhattan, New York, US". In such cases, is "New York" supposed to refer to New York City or to New York State? As a foreigner, I can't tell, although my gut feeling would be to point to the city as the next administrative level up. Follow up question: would it be appropriate to list such places as "Manhattan, New York, NY, U.S." or would the extra "NY" be considered bad style? Your answers will help automate the disambiguation of New York links if the recent page move is endorsed. — JFG talk 23:34, 4 July 2016 (UTC)
- If "Manhattan, New York" is used, it can only mean "Manhattan, New York City". I don't think it has to be spelled out that way, though, because it wouldn't add anything. As for linking and disambiguating: any wikilink after Manhattan is unnecessary per WO:OVERLINK. In fact, even mentioning "US" is unnecessary. -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 06:45, 5 July 2016 (UTC)
- It makes no difference. Manhattan is part of New York City which is part of New York state, so a person who died in Manhattan died in both New York City and New York state. ~~
NY move request
A move from "New York" to "New York (state)" has been overturned and relisted. A new subpage at Talk:New York/July 2016 move request has been created, and this WikiProject's members might be interested in participating. Snuggums (talk / edits) 04:57, 9 July 2016 (UTC)
I am concerned
I am concerned that despite widespread support for relisting, there has so far been no input at all at Talk:New York/July 2016 move request#Argument and evidence in opposition to moving the page, which has been open for some days but will shortly be closed and the new move opened for discussion. Please consider whether you have a case to put. Thank you. Andrewa (talk) 18:51, 12 July 2016 (UTC)
- Note to the project: this move request is now underway at Talk:New York/July 2016 move request. bd2412 T 01:50, 19 July 2016 (UTC)
Lower Manhattan map for pin
Hi, I've created a better scale map for Lower Manhattan and a bit more to the north at Template:Location map United States Lower Manhattan. Feel free to update some of the building articles in Lower with this.♦ Dr. Blofeld 12:02, 3 August 2016 (UTC)
Photo requests
Recently, some photo requests have come up on the user talk page of DanTD (talk · contribs).
The requests are:
- Victor A. Moore Bus Terminal 40°44′48″N 73°53′27″W / 40.7466333°N 73.890713°W
- Hotel St. George, Clark St Subway Entrance 40°44′48″N 73°53′27″W / 40.7466333°N 73.890713°W; Street view
Now there is a stipulation - the views of the subway entrances must be unobstructed by any vehicles.
Photos are much appreciated. epicgenius (talk) 03:00, 6 August 2016 (UTC)
- I'd like to point out that in the case of the Hotel St. George subway entrance, you could probably get some from inside. But that street view that epicgenius (talk · contribs) showed you is good too. ---------User:DanTD (talk) 03:15, 6 August 2016 (UTC)
- In the meantime, there's a longer list of sites that I think deserve pictures. ---------User:DanTD (talk) 23:16, 24 August 2016 (UTC)
Alexander Cartwright
Can someone rewrite the article for Alexander Cartwright? The article needs be better research and reflect modern scholarly consensus on the subject.--KAVEBEAR (talk) 18:31, 26 August 2016 (UTC)
RFC: Is New York State the primary topic for the term "New York"?
Editors interested in New York City may want to contribute to the RFC asking whether New York State the primary topic for the term "New York". — JFG talk 10:28, 28 August 2016 (UTC)
Discussion at Talk:Metropolitan Transportation Authority (New York)#Requested move 13 September 2016
You are invited to join the discussion at Talk:Metropolitan Transportation Authority (New York)#Requested move 13 September 2016. epicgenius (talk) 00:37, 13 September 2016 (UTC)
Vandalism at Crime in New York City
I'm a little surprised, and upset, that vandals got away with putting bogus figures into Crime in New York City for three days straight, ending with this version. This of course was following the dispute at the presidential debate about whether murder is on the rise, and someone brilliantly decided to change the figures to make it seem this was actually the case when it is not. Another vandal changed the total violent crime to 00000, so there was a mix... Anyway, both Trump and Clinton are based in New York City, so until mid-November I think we should try keep a close eye on any topics that may be cited in politics. Crime related articles are likely major targets, so feel free to add this one to your watchlist, if you're up for the challenge of monitoring it. Many thanks — MusikAnimal talk 03:20, 29 September 2016 (UTC)
399 Park Avenue
Hello,
I am a Citi employee and would like to have the 399 Park Avenue page updated as the global headquarters have now moved downtown to 388-390 Greenwich Street. I recently went through this same exercise with the Citigroup page and now wish to do the same to the 399 Park Avenue page.
Please revise the first paragraph of the current 399 Park Avenue page with the following but keep the current hyperlinks:
399 Park Avenue is a 41-story office building that from 1961 to 2015 was the world headquarters of Citigroup in Manhattan, New York City. The company moved to the building from 55 Wall Street and is now headquartered at 388 Greenwich Street. 399 Park Avenue occupies the entire block between Park Avenue and Lexington Avenue and 53rd Street and 54th Street. The building lot was assembled by Vincent Astor who initially planned to build a 46-story Astor Plaza on the site. Astor had problems completing the assembly of the lots of mostly residential buildings as a pharmacy held out.
Also, for the image caption to the right, please change "Citigroup Center" to "601 Lexington Avenue"
Thank you for reading through this request.
192.193.171.150 (talk) 16:35, 19 September 2016 (UTC)
Update 10/13/16: I have updated the 399 Park Avenue page myself with the changes described above in my original request. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 199.67.138.43 (talk) 14:22, 13 October 2016 (UTC)
US 50,000 Challenge invite
Hi. The Wikipedia:WikiProject United States/The 50,000 Challenge has recently started, based on the UK/Ireland Wikipedia:The 10,000 Challenge. The idea is not to record every minor edit, but to create a momentum to motivate editors to produce good content improvements and creations and inspire people to work on more states than they might otherwise work on. If there's the interest I will start 1000 State Challenges like Wikipedia:The 1000 Challenge (Nordic). For this to really work we need diversity and exciting content and editors from a broad range of states regularly contributing. If you would like to see masses of articles being improved for the US and your specialist/home state like Wikipedia:WikiProject Africa/The Africa Destubathon, sign up today and once the challenge starts a contest can be organized. This is a way we can target every state, and steadily vastly improve the encyclopedia. We need numbers to make this work so consider signing up as a participant and also sign under any state sub challenge on the page that you might contribute to! Thankyou.♦ Dr. Blofeld 15:23, 1 November 2016 (UTC)
Mysterious window/door at 2016 Open House
I see that the recent Open House New York Weekend Photo Competition worked out well. I wish I could've gone up for that, but in the meantime, there's one site that's a total mystery. On another topic, I think there should've been separate categories for Ellis Island, Roosevelt Island, etcetera. ---------User:DanTD (talk) 03:10, 5 November 2016 (UTC)
Challenge for New York is up and running, needs contributors!♦ Dr. Blofeld 18:11, 8 November 2016 (UTC)
Happy Evacuation Day!
I've been working a fair bit on this article lately, especially on historical commemorations, thought others might like collaborate as well, given it's November 25, and today the article is in the spoltight: Evacuation Day.--Pharos (talk) 09:51, 25 November 2016 (UTC)
No 2016 NYC Gay Pride March images
One thing I noticed this year, is that there are absolutely no images of the 2016 Gay Pride Parade in the commons, but plenty of images of memorials at Stonewall Inn and Christopher Park to the Pulse Nightclub massacre in Orlando. I've seriously considered renaming the parade category, and splitting it between the two memorials. ---------User:DanTD (talk) 15:51, 26 November 2016 (UTC)
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Help with BNY Mellon?
Hoping to find someone to help make a few updates to the The Bank of New York Mellon article. I won't make the edits myself, because of my financial conflict of interest: I am monitoring the article on behalf of BNY Mellon. I posted a message to the Talk page a month ago and haven't had any responses, so I thought it made sense to bring it folks' attention here. I welcome anyone to make the changes or leave me feedback on the Talk page. Thanks! Heatherer (talk) 17:55, 9 December 2016 (UTC)
The Bronx Times
Would somebody from this WikiProject mind taking a look at The Bronx Times and possibly assessing it? The article was recently prodded, but was restored per WP:REFUND#The Bronx Times. Are there any notability guidelines in addition to WP:GNG and WP:NORG which might specifically apply to online newspapers such as this because the subject does not (at first glance) appear to be notable enough for a stand-alone article. The article has been tagged with maintenance templates since January 2014 so it may simply be a case of WP:NRV. Anyway, any suggestions for improvement or ideas about where to find better sourcing would be most appreciated. Feel free to add them to the article's talk page. Thanks in advance. -- Marchjuly (talk) 00:50, 12 December 2016 (UTC)
Conflict on Menachem Mendel Schneerson and mention of the Crown Heights riots
I have closed the dispute mediation, because I do not believe this will be productive. Instead I have opened discussion on — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rococo1700 (talk • contribs) 00:25, 16 December 2016 (UTC)
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I have had many problems in past with this article, but the most recent problem is that the article fails to mention the Crown Heights riots, even if but to mention that Schneerson's motorcade was involved. Again my source, and my justification, for adding this to Schneerson's article is that the New York Times obituary [6], and every retrospective article I found on the riots, mentions Schneerson. When I add any mention there is a team of editors that raises extraneous and false claims. I would urge authors interested in this area to help edit some entry in this article that does justice to the link.
My entry, which I thought was the least controversial, although entered in the controversy section (should it have its own section or his legacy?) stated:
- Crown Heights Riot
The Crown Heights disturbances in August 19, 1991, which became a central issue in a New York City mayoral race, were set off when a car in Rabbi Schneerson's motorcade went out of control and killed a 7-year-old black child. In the days that followed, a riot erupted in the neighborhood, reflecting existing tensions between Jewish and black residents. Two men, one of them a young Lubavitch adherent, were killed during the riots. A grand jury found no reason bring charges against anyone in the motorcade.[1][2]
I could live with a shorter version. My quibble is that an article on Schneerson should include the words: motorcade of ... Schneerson and Crown Heights riot in the same paragraph. I could use help from editors providing some reasonable framework with how to proceed.Rococo1700 (talk) 05:25, 16 December 2016 (UTC)
References
- ^ New York Daily News, article titled Crown Heights erupts in three days of race riots after Jewish driver hits and kills Gavin Cato, 7, in 1991, retrospective about the riots, by Rich Schapiro and Ginger Adams Otis, August 13, 2016.
- ^ Rabbi Schneerson Led A Small Hasidic Sect To World Prominence by Ari Goldman, June 13, 1994.
More opinions needed at Talk:Stuyvesant Town–Peter Cooper Village#"Charter" Beyond My Ken (talk) 04:40, 18 December 2016 (UTC)
Crazy Eddie GA Reassessment Notice
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Good article reassessment of Gowanus Canal
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Comments on RfC Donald Trump requested
There is currently an RfC about the outcome of the presidential election here. Participation would be appreciated. Thanks. SW3 5DL (talk) 16:59, 14 January 2017 (UTC)
More opinions requested
at Talk:Times Square#Proposal. Beyond My Ken (talk) 19:09, 15 January 2017 (UTC)
Members of this Wikiproject will probably be interested in this RfC. Beyond My Ken (talk) 02:00, 19 January 2017 (UTC)
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Discussion on whether to include information on recurring rat infestation issues in a New York City neighborhood
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Fearless Girl statue
I created Fearless Girl, if a New Yorker is able to help by illustrating this article. ---Another Believer (Talk) 16:16, 8 March 2017 (UTC)
Please see Talk:Buffalo–Niagara_Falls_metropolitan_area#RfC_about_the_3_separate_regional_articles. This could use a few more responses. Thank you. --Lemongirl942 (talk) 13:19, 9 March 2017 (UTC)
Draft:Pier 76
Should Draft:Pier 76 be moved to the main space? ---Another Believer (Talk) 21:15, 10 March 2017 (UTC)
- The references need to be improved. First (but easily fixed) they're all shown as having the same title. But more importantly, they're all (or almost all) primary sources. The article ought to have a couple of reliable secondary sources to demonstrate notability before it's moved to main space. Pburka (talk) 00:07, 11 March 2017 (UTC)
One burned out building in the South Bronx
This has been nagging me for a while, but I've had a suspicion this building might be in Mott Haven. If not, then Concourse. I've been looking for each on Google Street View, but so far I've found nothing. ---------User:DanTD (talk) 20:27, 21 February 2017 (UTC)
- Pleasant coincidence, I was already considering biking to Port Morris tomorrow. We'll see. Jim.henderson (talk) 19:09, 27 February 2017 (UTC)
RfC on Donald Trump talk page
Please comment on the RfC on Donald Trump talk regarding whether or not to open a section on LGBT rights in the Domestic Policy section of the Donald Trump article here. Thank you. SW3 5DL (talk) 01:47, 23 March 2017 (UTC)
Whitestone Library Image
Okay, I need to determine which of these images of the Whitestone Branch of the Queens Borough Public Library would be good for the List of Queens Library branches. I was already able to get one for Bayside and two for Fresh Meadows. I tried to get Bay Terrace, but it was too dark back then.
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Some might be too close.
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All of them have too much snow and ice.
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Then there's something else...
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.. along Clintonville Street.
So, take your pick. ---------User:DanTD (talk) 23:56, 23 March 2017 (UTC)
- You know what? Since nobody is picking anything, I'll just throw in the second one. ---------User:DanTD (talk) 18:49, 4 April 2017 (UTC)
Members of this project...
...may be interested in this discussion. Beyond My Ken (talk) 20:32, 13 April 2017 (UTC)
Members of this Project...
...may be interested in this discussion]. Beyond My Ken (talk) 23:10, 16 April 2017 (UTC)
New descendant wikiproject
Members of this project may be interested in Wikipedia:WikiProject Chinese in New York City, a descendant project that has been created recently. Regards, epicgenius (talk) 18:43, 4 May 2017 (UTC)
Q59 Bus location
Okay, is this bus in Brooklyn or Queens? ---------User:DanTD (talk) 20:16, 27 March 2017 (UTC)
- @DanTD: It's in Brooklyn, I can say this much. Grand Ave in Queens is wider. epicgenius (talk) 19:29, 4 May 2017 (UTC)
- Thanks. I fixed it. ---------User:DanTD (talk) 23:29, 4 May 2017 (UTC)
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Comments requested
Verrazano-Narrows Bridge name
Someone suggested that I should post a note here drawing interested parties’ attention to edits at the Verrazano-Narrows Bridge page. This name should take a hyphen (-), not an en dash (–). In the context of bridge names, en dashes take the place of the word “to”: the Brooklyn–Battery Tunnel is the Brooklyn-to-Battery Tunnel. But the Verrazano is not a bridge connecting the Verrazano & the Narrows. Rather, it’s 2 alternative names for the same thing (the Verrazano Bridge and the Narrows Bridge) smushed together. This is exactly analogous to when Ms. Doe & Mr. Roe marry to become Mr. and Ms. Doe-Roe: they use a hyphen. In other words, the rule is not “bridges and tunnels use an en dash instead of a hyphen in their names”; you have to look deeper.
I’m a professional copyeditor with many years’ experience editing to both American and British standards. That makes me a bona fide en-dash weenie—probably the weeniest en-dash weenie of them all—but to use one in Verrazano–Narrows makes no sense. It is a contrived construction that flies in the face of convention. You can tie yourself up in pretzels arguing that it's not a bridge over the Verrazano Narrows (the Narrows themselves not being named for Verrazzano), but the terms "Verrazano" and "Narrows" are still not coordinate ones. Really, though, what's wrong with it is that it snags the eye.
I had made this point on the VNB Talk page and, not hearing any objections after a week, posted it at Moves Requested. The move to Verrazano-Narrows Bridge has been made, and I’m now in the process of going thru What Links Here and tidying up. But I wanted to make sure that everyone was aware of the reasoning behind the change so that nobody decides it must be a mistake and starts to undo it without discussion.
I’m also posting this at the Bridges project. Let’s direct discussion to the VNB talk page to keep it all in one place, if that is agreeable. Gould363 (talk) 17:29, 4 June 2017 (UTC)
- Seems reasonable to me. Beyond My Ken (talk) 19:12, 4 June 2017 (UTC)
Move request underway
Hi all
This is a heads up to let you know that there is a requested move, proposing to move the New York (disambiguation) page to New York, and the current New York page to New York (state). Please go to Talk:New York (disambiguation), read through the request and give your thoughts and feedback in the discussion. Thanks! — Amakuru (talk) 11:52, 7 July 2017 (UTC)
Which city
See Talk:New York#Which city for a discussion of great interest to this WikiProject. Andrewa (talk) 22:18, 19 July 2017 (UTC)
Categories
As some of you may have seen, because of the change of New York from being targeted at the state to its becoming a DAB page, categories that were "X in New York" have been moved by bots to "X in New York (state)". Unfortunately, many of the entries in those categories really would be better categorized in "X in New York City". I and a couple of others have been moving entries by hand, but it would all go a lot faster if others would join in as well. It's not only the "X architecture" categories, but also things such as "Clubhouse", "Concert halls", "Performing arts centers", "X churches" and so on.
When the category was "X in New York" the ambiguity as to whether "New York" meant the state or the city was a bit annoying, but the same ambiguity did allow for both entries to live together in the one category. Now that the cats are being specified as "New York (state)", it's worthwhile -- given the large number of entries that are located in the city -- to differentiate between them.
I look forward to any help that the members of this project would like to give. Beyond My Ken (talk) 00:02, 25 July 2017 (UTC)
Category:Bridges in New York City
I propose removing all the members of "Category:Bridges in New York City" that are already in any "Category:Bridges in <borough name>". The reason is because of consistency with other similar categories named "<Structure type> in New York City". For example, if something is in "Category:Buildings and structures in <borough name>", it is not in "Category:Buildings and structures in New York City". As far as I know, this category is the only bridge-related category, or New York City-related category, that does not diffuse.
I can see why this doesn't diffuse since it is a relatively small category and most bridges are in multiple boroughs. However, this doesn't create problems other than duplication across categories. epicgenius (talk) 21:57, 26 July 2017 (UTC)
- (ec) I understand your thinking, but the purpose of categorization is to make it easier to find things, and it's far from certain that the general reader is going to know what borough to find the bridge they're looking for in. Besides, many If not most) of the bridges are in two boroughs. No my feeling is that "Bridges in New York City" should be an all-inclusive master category. Beyond My Ken (talk) 22:02, 26 July 2017 (UTC)
- I see. I thought if the reader were to look for a bridge but didn't know which borough it was in, they would probably go to that page first and look at the categories there (same as with "Buildings and structures in New York City", etc.). But this works too. Anyway, let's see if any other editors think otherwise. epicgenius (talk) 23:08, 26 July 2017 (UTC)
Woodside or Kuala Lumpur
FYI, there are a lot of images in the commons vaguely categorized as commons:Category:United States, which are incorrectly described as being in Woodside, Queens when in reality they're in Kuala Lumpur. Don't ask me how anybody could make such an absurd mistake. ---------User:DanTD (talk) 12:05, 1 August 2017 (UTC)
- Wow. Beyond My Ken (talk) 12:09, 1 August 2017 (UTC)
- In any case, c:Category:United States is rather a useless category that should really only have other categories in it, and no images. Or, if there are images, they should be of places which are clearly in the US but which are not distinctly identified. Having a category full of random pictures of places in the US is (as I said) pretty darn uselsss. Beyond My Ken (talk) 12:14, 1 August 2017 (UTC)
- I agree, and the sooner all the images are narrowed down to their specific locations, the sooner it'll become the metacat that it should be. ---------User:DanTD (talk) 23:09, 1 August 2017 (UTC)
- In any case, c:Category:United States is rather a useless category that should really only have other categories in it, and no images. Or, if there are images, they should be of places which are clearly in the US but which are not distinctly identified. Having a category full of random pictures of places in the US is (as I said) pretty darn uselsss. Beyond My Ken (talk) 12:14, 1 August 2017 (UTC)
The article Bronx Community Board 8 has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:
This page may not meet Notability guidelines, along with need a lot of citations.
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- I've removed the PROD. Take it to AfD, if you must. Beyond My Ken (talk) 00:19, 16 August 2017 (UTC)
AfD of interest to this group
291 Broadway. Beyond My Ken (talk) 20:23, 15 September 2017 (UTC)
Image request
If anybody is interested, there is an image request for the new Cornell Tech campus on the southern half of Roosevelt Island. It's located at Talk:Cornell Tech. epicgenius (talk) 04:35, 16 September 2017 (UTC)
Airport in Manhattan?
Somebody took a bunch of picture each with the name "Manhattan New York City 2009 PD," but they're obviously from one of the three major airports in the Tri-State area, which means there's no way in hell any of them could be in Manhattan. You'll find the disputed images in the commons:Category:Airports in New York, and there's no way you can convince me they're from any heliports in Manhattan. My first guesses would've been either John F. Kennedy International Airport or LaGuardia Airport, but the New Jersey license plates on some of the ground crew makes me suspect it might be Newark Liberty International Airport. So who wants to take a guess at where they might really be? ---------User:DanTD (talk) 15:22, 27 August 2017 (UTC)
- While they're being evaluated, I've moved them into Commons:Category:Unidentified airport, New York metro area. Beyond My Ken (talk) 17:34, 27 August 2017 (UTC)
- I don't believe that Lufthansa flies out of LaGuardia, so it would have to be Newark or Kennedy. The truck shown in one image is Continental's, and I think that Newark is a Continental hub, so my money's on Newark. Beyond My Ken (talk) 17:38, 27 August 2017 (UTC)
- I think it's Newark too, LGA and JFK don't look like that. epicgenius (talk) 04:36, 16 September 2017 (UTC)
- Minds more eager than mine could probably follow the photographer's stream of pictures chronologically to identify the neighborhood or the route. Jim.henderson (talk) 17:05, 22 September 2017 (UTC)
Blessed Sacrament Church in Cypress Hills
Am I really the only person on Wikipedia who has any images of the Blessed Sacrament Church in Cypress Hills, Brooklyn? ---------User:DanTD (talk) 16:34, 25 September 2017 (UTC)
- Isn't this the church that appeared in the last or next-to-last episode of the CBS TV series Elementary, where Holmes had his AA meeting? If it is, it was quite impressive. Beyond My Ken (talk) 20:17, 25 September 2017 (UTC)
- I've done a little research and created a Wikidata item for the church - Blessed Sacrament Church (Q41034422) - it can sometimes be a good staging ground for covering a building like this, as you don't need to demonstrate notability in the same way as Wikipedia.--Pharos (talk) 00:58, 26 September 2017 (UTC)
- No promises, but I may try to get out there this weekend. It's much harder for me to get to further-out parts of Brooklyn since I moved from midtown to "upstate Manhattan", but the church looks like it's right off the A train, so it's just a matter of find the 4 hours it would take to get there, take some pics (and some others in the area) and get back. Maybe I can do it on Friday when I have to be downtown anyway, we'll see. Beyond My Ken (talk) 01:08, 26 September 2017 (UTC)
- Actually, it's off the J train, but I suppose you can transfer at Broadway Junction (New York City Subway). ---------User:DanTD (talk) 13:25, 26 September 2017 (UTC)
- Thanks for the helpful correction. Beyond My Ken (talk) 19:46, 26 September 2017 (UTC)
- You're welcome. And though I'm glad many of you like picture I've posted...--------User:DanTD (talk) 12:39, 8 October 2017 (UTC)
- Thanks for the helpful correction. Beyond My Ken (talk) 19:46, 26 September 2017 (UTC)
- Actually, it's off the J train, but I suppose you can transfer at Broadway Junction (New York City Subway). ---------User:DanTD (talk) 13:25, 26 September 2017 (UTC)
- No promises, but I may try to get out there this weekend. It's much harder for me to get to further-out parts of Brooklyn since I moved from midtown to "upstate Manhattan", but the church looks like it's right off the A train, so it's just a matter of find the 4 hours it would take to get there, take some pics (and some others in the area) and get back. Maybe I can do it on Friday when I have to be downtown anyway, we'll see. Beyond My Ken (talk) 01:08, 26 September 2017 (UTC)
- I've done a little research and created a Wikidata item for the church - Blessed Sacrament Church (Q41034422) - it can sometimes be a good staging ground for covering a building like this, as you don't need to demonstrate notability in the same way as Wikipedia.--Pharos (talk) 00:58, 26 September 2017 (UTC)
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Sunday October 15: Wikipedia @ Open House New York / Weekend Photo Competition
We'd like to invite WikiProject New York City folks to participate n this event, which is part of the larger Open House New York Weekend. We've held some other in-person NYC events, but this is the first one in a long time with a strong local history focus (which is what attracted me to Wikipedia in the first place, like others here) and I hope people might find that interesting too.--Pharos (talk) 15:40, 11 October 2017 (UTC)
Women in Red November contest open to all
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Chelsea Park image request
Does anyone happen to have more photos of Chelsea Park? I looked on Commons and didn't find any photos specifically for that park, and only found one photo on Flickr. epicgenius (talk) 14:25, 31 October 2017 (UTC)
Ongoing FAC
Members of this WikiProject might be interested in leaving comments at Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Lady Gaga/archive2. Snuggums (talk / edits) 16:15, 2 November 2017 (UTC)
Ruby Karp
Ruby Karp is a recently created article. Would someone from this WikiProject mind taking a look at it and assessing it? -- Marchjuly (talk) 23:29, 2 November 2017 (UTC)
Important notice
DNAinfo and Gothamist have both suddenly shut down with all of their articles redirecting to the shutdown notice (source), leaving hundreds if not thousands of dead links across the entire wiki. These links should be archived ASAP. Here is a list of links:
epicgenius (talk) 00:34, 3 November 2017 (UTC)
- Never mind, I made a bot request and it has been fulfilled. epicgenius (talk) 13:39, 3 November 2017 (UTC)
Flatiron District boundaries
Concerning the boundaries of the Flatiron District in NYC: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flatiron_District
This entry says: "Generally the Flatiron District is bounded by 20th Street, Union Square and Greenwich Village to the south; the Avenue of the Americas (Sixth Avenue) or Seventh Avenue and Chelsea to the west; 25th Street and NoMad to the north; Rose Hill to the northeast, and Lexington Avenue/Irving Place, Gramercy Park to the east.[1][2]"
The Department of City Planning in NYC rezoning application for Ladies Mile says it is in the Flatiron District, it says: "This application seeks to rezone a 5- block area in the Flatiron District. The area is located on the midblocks between Fifth and Sixth avenues, from the centerline between 16th and 17th streets to the south, to 22nd Street on the north. Except for two properties in its southwest corner, the entire Rezoning Area is located within the Ladies Mile Historic District." See: https://www1.nyc.gov/assets/planning/download/pdf/plans/ladies-mile/ladiesmile.pdf
Quoting the NYT: "The boundaries of the Flatiron can be a subject of disagreement, but the district generally runs from the Avenue of the Americas to Park Avenue South between 14th and 23rd Streets, excluding the blocks adjacent to Union Square. Still, as often happens when a neighborhood becomes popular, some see its borders as expanded. The Flatiron 23rd Street Partnership, the six-year-old business improvement district that keeps streets clean and maintains two public plazas created on Broadway in 2008, places the northern boundary in the upper 20s, an area some call NoMad, or North of Madison Square Park."
Based on architectural style many other sites cite similar boundaries for the District: - https://www.compass.com/neighborhood-guides/nyc/flatiron/ - https://www.airbnb.com/locations/new-york/flatiron-district - http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/01/realestate/flatiron-district-living-in-profile-always-high-keeps-current-too.html
I understand the Flatiron/23rd St Bid and real-estate interests want to define the district differently, but their map does not make sense architecturally and runs counter to NYC's boundaries, NYT's boundaries and many other respected sources.
More research will find city documents that agree with the NYT's boundaries, more than the BID's boundaries. In the interest of accuracy we should change the boundaries in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flatiron_District to reflect this. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Randomplace (talk • contribs) 20:16, 3 November 2017 (UTC)
νew Υork City listed at Redirects for discussion
An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Νew Υork City. Please participate in the redirect discussion if you have not already done so. 70.51.45.76 (talk) 03:42, 29 November 2017 (UTC)
- NOTE see Talk:νew Υork City where 74.108.224.146 (talk · contribs) has made a suggestion for New Υork City (New UPSILONork City / new υork city ) to be a redirect to New York City -- 70.51.46.255 (talk) 10:10, 1 December 2017 (UTC)
Disambiguation links on pages tagged by this wikiproject
Wikipedia has many thousands of wikilinks which point to disambiguation pages. It would be useful to readers if these links directed them to the specific pages of interest, rather than making them search through a list. Members of WikiProject Disambiguation have been working on this and the total number is now below 20,000 for the first time. Some of these links require specialist knowledge of the topics concerned and therefore it would be great if you could help in your area of expertise.
A list of the relevant links on pages which fall within the remit of this wikiproject can be found at http://69.142.160.183/~dispenser/cgi-bin/topic_points.py?banner=WikiProject_New_York_City
Please take a few minutes to help make these more useful to our readers.— Rod talk 17:41, 3 December 2017 (UTC)
Discussion of interest to this project
Discussion at Talk:Stuyvesant High School#Copy editing
You are invited to join the discussion at Talk:Stuyvesant High School#Copy editing. epicgenius (talk) 17:34, 17 December 2017 (UTC)
This is a Featured Article that needs a lot of copy editing and referencing fixes. I would preferably not want to send this article to Featured Article Review, but unless these issues are fixed, I will have no choice but to send this article to FAR. epicgenius (talk) 17:34, 17 December 2017 (UTC)
- You "will have no choice"? Of course you have a choice, nothing is mandatory in that respect. If you went to send it to FAR, that's fine, but please don't pretend that something is forcing you to do so - it's entirely your decision whether to send it or not. Beyond My Ken (talk) 19:52, 17 December 2017 (UTC)
- Well, it's either me or the IP editor who placed all these tags on the page. If you want to help, fine, but don't lecture me about choices. I can either fix the issues or ignore these tags, but the problems aren't going to get any better if I choose the latter. epicgenius (talk) 21:24, 17 December 2017 (UTC)
- I won't "lecture you" if you stop using ridiculous rhetoric like "I will have no choice". If the tags are inappropriate, remove them, if not, fix them. Beyond My Ken (talk) 21:49, 17 December 2017 (UTC)
- I am in the process of doing that. I have also struck out the "no choice" wording that you object to so strongly. epicgenius (talk) 22:00, 17 December 2017 (UTC)
- Thanks. Beyond My Ken (talk) 22:02, 17 December 2017 (UTC)
- I am in the process of doing that. I have also struck out the "no choice" wording that you object to so strongly. epicgenius (talk) 22:00, 17 December 2017 (UTC)
- I won't "lecture you" if you stop using ridiculous rhetoric like "I will have no choice". If the tags are inappropriate, remove them, if not, fix them. Beyond My Ken (talk) 21:49, 17 December 2017 (UTC)
- Well, it's either me or the IP editor who placed all these tags on the page. If you want to help, fine, but don't lecture me about choices. I can either fix the issues or ignore these tags, but the problems aren't going to get any better if I choose the latter. epicgenius (talk) 21:24, 17 December 2017 (UTC)
Discussion of interest to this project: Template:NYC year nav
Template:NYC year nav has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. -- M2545 (talk) 13:32, 17 January 2018 (UTC)
The AfD for this article was closed as a redirect and selective merge to Community boards of the Bronx. The redirect has been done, but no material has been merged. Can someone familiar with the subject please do so? Beyond My Ken (talk) 23:19, 24 January 2018 (UTC)
Community Districts listing in the Infobox?
Riverdale | |
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Country | United States |
State | New York |
City | New York City |
Borough | The Bronx |
Community District | 8 |
Riverdale | |
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Country | United States |
State | New York |
City | New York City |
Borough | Bronx |
I'm curious to know if there has been a discussion on including the Community District / Community Board in the various NYC neighborhood infoboxes?
Using the Riverdale, Bronx neighborhood as an example:
(only the relevant part of the infobox is shown)
GAN: William Bliss Baker
William Bliss Baker has been nominated as a possible Good article. You are invited to review the article based on the good article criteria by using these instructions. You can start the review process by following the "start review" link found near the top of the article's talk page. Thanks for your time! ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 00:06, 13 January 2018 (UTC)
- Still looking for help with this nomination. If you have a few minutes, it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance! ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 17:35, 7 February 2018 (UTC)
TFAR notice
Members of this WikiProject might be interested in Wikipedia:Today's featured article/requests/Lady Gaga. Snuggums (talk / edits) 00:44, 12 February 2018 (UTC)
Ex-Bloomingdale's Warehouse and NYCHA
The former Bloomingdale's Warehouse on 49th Avenue in Long Island City is currently an office owned by the New York City Housing Authority, as you'd be able to see if you zoom in on the picture below, although it's not a public housing project. ---------User:DanTD (talk) 04:39, 16 February 2018 (UTC)
List of deputy mayors of New York City
Could someone please create a full list of all the deputy mayors of New York City? There is a small section at Mayor of New York City, but I am unable to find a full list. By the way, Richard Menschel's wife was a deputy mayor and she may be sufficiently notable to have her own article.Zigzig20s (talk) 22:39, 16 February 2018 (UTC)