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2024 edit
May 2024 edit
Firming up for May edit
#1day1woman 2024 ** Event #293: #1day1woman #1day1woman Education - Year long initiative ** Event #294: Education Year long initiative Education Year long initiative
NEW - Press women * Press women ** Event #305: Press women
NEW - Alphabet run U, V & W - 267 as go by * Alphabet run U, V & W ** Event #306: Alphabet run U, V & W
NEW - Geofocus: Central and Eastern Europe - 270 as go by * Geofocus: Central and Eastern Europe ** Event #307: Geofocus: Central and Eastern Europe
ANNOUNCEMENTS (EVENTS FACILITATED BY OTHERS) * Wikimedia CEE Spring 2024 - Wikimedia contest with certificates of participation and prizes * The Wikipedia Library: #1Lib1Ref - May 15th to June 5th
INVITATION: * Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/Outreach/2024#May 2024 - ** logo COMING UP: * Wikipedia:WikiProject_Women_in_Red/Events
TIP OF THE MONTH: * Use open-access references wherever possible, but a paywalled reliable source is better than none, particularly for biographies of living people. (ok)
WomenArtistUpdate is on Wikibreak and this is around the time when things get firmed up for the next month. Does someone want to take this on or do we think that WAU will return soon? — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 20:13, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
- I will set up the alphabet run U-W page, if someone is okay to check it for me? — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 11:32, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
Ipigott, Rosiestep, Lajmmoore, CT55555, Victuallers, Cielquiparle, SusunW, Chocmilk03, Penny Richards, Silver seren, PamD, Curbon7, MSGJ and all WIR helpers: Here's a rough draft of the to-do list which I have done in the absence of WomenArtistUpdates on a well-deserved break. Ipiggott and I have made a start on two of the new events. There are still a number of decisions to be made. Please help!--Oronsay (talk) 23:24, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
- I can create the invite after we finalize which events we'll be doing this month, Ipigott having mentioned the possibility of "nobility" and/or "geofocus" on the main WiR talkpage earlier today. --Rosiestep (talk) 23:46, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks, @Rosiestep. I have some concerns about nobility as the women must be much more than "wife of ...". As well as the idea of Islands A, B & C, we need to consider our annual collaboration with CEE Women. Oronsay (talk) 01:54, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
- I think the collaboration with CEE Women as our third focus makes the most sense. Penny Richards (talk) 03:26, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you, Oronsay, for moving ahead in WAU's absence. CEE women has traditionally been our Geofocus (see #270 and earlier years). Islands seems to me to be a good idea but I therefore suggest we leave it for future months, e.g. starting in June. As Nobility is not considered appropriate, that leaves us with Press women and U to W with CEE as geofocus. That seems to be all we need unless anyone would like to suggest an additional topic or any further changes. And how about tip of the month?--Ipigott (talk) 05:54, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
- I've okayed Alphabet run but it contains a redlinked category in the first box: Category:WikiProject Women in Red meetup 306 articles. Perhaps, MSGJ, this should be created as for #305.--Ipigott (talk) 06:07, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
- I think the collaboration with CEE Women as our third focus makes the most sense. Penny Richards (talk) 03:26, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks, @Rosiestep. I have some concerns about nobility as the women must be much more than "wife of ...". As well as the idea of Islands A, B & C, we need to consider our annual collaboration with CEE Women. Oronsay (talk) 01:54, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
- Tip of the Month
- Possible tip to tie in with #1Lib1Ref: Use open-access references wherever possible, but a paywalled reliable source is better than none, particularly for biographies of living people.--Oronsay (talk) 01:42, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
- For Tip of the Month, if there are no new proposals, may I suggest the following:
- This may be a good opportunity to look through all the tips posted over the past 18 months.--Ipigott (talk) 15:09, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
- Wow! I didn't realize we'd been doing Tip of the Month for 18 months already. I like your suggestion, Ipigott as it not only links to 18 tips in one fell swoop, but is a reminder that we've been providing this service for quite some time. That said, I like the timeliness of Oronsay's tip as it ties in with #1Lib1Ref. Perhaps we could postpone the "look through" tip to October (if I did my math right) when it would be 24 months? --Rosiestep (talk) 16:24, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
- For Tip of the Month, if there are no new proposals, may I suggest the following:
- Invite
I've drafted it. It's incomplete; awaiting finalization of the Tip of the Month. For the logo, I added Victuallers' badge. Other possibilities: collage logo? librarian logo? (The librarian logo would support #1lib1ref campaign which is occurring during May.) --Rosiestep (talk) 16:44, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
- The badge looks good to me. I've enlarged it a bit so that it can be seen to contain text. So Lajmmoore, everything now seems ready to go.--Ipigott (talk) 05:56, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
Press edit
To coincide with the UN's declaration that World Press Freedom Day occurs on May 3, and in support of the newest EN-WP women-related WikiProject, WP:WikiProject Women Do News, I'm suggesting we do something like "Press Women" in May. Women journalists are included in our annual "Women Writers" event, but "Press Women" would go beyond journalists to include the photographers, the newspapers/magazines/journals created by women, their conferences, notable books about women of the press, etc. --Rosiestep (talk) 19:29, 15 January 2024 (UTC)
- I notified the Women Do News community here. --Rosiestep (talk) 17:09, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
Annual edit
- Education
- CEE women (with CEE User Group)
Alphabet run U, V, W edit
Month | Letters |
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July | A & B |
August | C & D |
September | E & F |
October | G & H |
November | I & J |
December | K & L |
January | M & N |
February | O & P |
March | Q & R |
April | S & T |
May | U, V, W |
June | X, Y & Z |
Jun 2024 edit
Annual edit
- Pride (with LGBT+ User Group)
- Music (World Music Day is 21 Jun)
Alphabet run X, Y & Z edit
Month | Letters |
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July | A & B |
August | C & D |
September | E & F |
October | G & H |
November | I & J |
December | K & L |
January | M & N |
February | O & P |
March | Q & R |
April | S & T |
May | U, V, W |
June | X, Y & Z |
Translation contest 2024? edit
See suggestion made here: Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Women in Red#translation contest 2024. Last time we did it: #227 in April-May-June 2022. What about scheduling it for June-July-August 2024? --Rosiestep (talk) 16:04, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
- Hi Rosiestep and Nattes à chat, If WiR does another translation event I think we should wait until the Alphabet Run ends, so start in July rather than June. Also, are either of you willing to be the point person for tallying articles, or should we use a Fountain registration? The Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/Meetup/227 page shows the outcomes and general setup for the 2022 version. The talk page of the event gives an idea of the behind the scenes mechanics and barnstars etc. for the 2022 version. I am pinging Oronsay because it would be great to have their feed-back about moving the event and housekeeping tasks. Also pinging Lajmmoore who worked on the last translation event. An example of a Fountain event is Wikipedia:100 DC Women. Best, --WomenArtistUpdates (talk) 20:06, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
- Starting in July makes sense, WomenArtistUpdates. Unfortunately, I won't be able to help with supportive tasks (because of the other hat that I wear). But I certainly look forward to participating! --Rosiestep (talk) 06:27, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks for the ping, @WomenArtistUpdates. I'm afraid I have absolutely no experience with the logistics of this sort of contest and regret I am unable to take it on, given what I currently do towards WIR's overall statistics, running gender reports etc. I have, however, worked out how to create event pages using the new system and am happy to update redlists and proofread pages. Oronsay (talk) 01:12, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
- Starting in July makes sense, WomenArtistUpdates. Unfortunately, I won't be able to help with supportive tasks (because of the other hat that I wear). But I certainly look forward to participating! --Rosiestep (talk) 06:27, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
Geofocus: Islands A, B & C edit
Islands A, B & C was suggested for May on the WIR Talk page, but held over due to our annual collaboration on CEE Women. If we go ahead with all the above events, it makes five, plus our two year-long ones. Is this too many?--Oronsay (talk) 20:17, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
- Have we done islands before or do redlists etc. need to be created? Is there an existing list of islands? Sorry, I missed the original suggestion and cant find it on the talk page now, probably been archived. --WomenArtistUpdates (talk) 20:09, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
Jul 2024 edit
Proposing Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/Science Fiction and Fantasy again. Looking at July because there is a major convention to take place in Glasgow in August so it would be a nice run it to that. ☕ Antiqueight chatter 11:03, 9 March 2024 (UTC)
- You know I always love this topic when it comes around; count me in. Penny Richards (talk) 14:22, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
Annual edit
- Summer sports
Aug 2024 edit
Annual edit
- Indigenous women (International Day of the World's Indigenous Peoples, 9 Aug) (see Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Women in Red/Archive 117#Please_vet_Native_claims)
- m:Interwiki Women Collaboration
- Behind the Scenes: Stage & Screen, poss. inc. Women Film Pioneers
Sep 2024 edit
Annual edit
- Writers (with WP:WPWW est. 30 Aug 2014)
Oct 2024 edit
Annual edit
- STEM (Ada Lovelace Day, 2nd Tue of Oct)
Nov 2024 edit
Annual edit
- Wiki Asia Month
Dec 2024 edit
Annual edit
- Religion
- Winter sports
- Women who died in 202x
Tip of the Month edit
Table of annual events/collaborations edit
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Potential/Suggestions edit
Starting over as of Dec 2023 see Potential/Suggestions Archive. Bring back any ideas for reconsideration. --WomenArtistUpdates (talk) 01:46, 28 November 2023 (UTC)
Geofocus ideas edit
Non-geofocus ideas edit
Ideas page administration edit
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Checklist for updates of virtual meetups edit
This section is purely administrative. It is not about the ongoing discussions of topics.
WiR generally has a variety of monthly, quarterly and annual events. WiR also sends out an “invitation” to its registered participants notifying them of those events. This is an effort to list tasks associated with the administrative tasks of updating and adding pages. We will be maintaining this list to assist with Quality Assurance. This is a working document and should be maintained to reflect current bast practices. WomenArtistUpdates (talk) 16:52, 18 February 2021 (UTC)
As of March 2024 we are working with a new set of cascading templates. Because the template speak to each other the preview of the template might not be as expected. For example 302 might look like 304. Additionally some pages won't preview correctly unless the editor purges the page to update the cache.
The interrelated templates allow us to make changes and pages once, without updating new and past events throughout the WiR ecosystem. This will ultimately reduce mistakes, bad directs, and misinformation. The coders involved are watching these pages to ensure they work correctly. March 2024 is the first iteration. If direction are not clear it is the drafter's fault - not the coders, so please be gentle.
This is a working document and should be maintained to reflect current bast practices. --WomenArtistUpdates (talk) 21:43, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
Basic overview of tasks using March 2024 as a guide edit
Each month there will be new events and ongoing events
YEAR-LONG INITIATIVES #1day1woman 2024 ** Event #293: #1day1woman #1day1woman Education - Year long initiative ** Event #294: Education Year long initiative Education Year long initiative
NEW - Alphabet run Q & R * Alphabet run Q & R ** Event #299: Alphabet run Q & R
NEW - Women's History Month | Art+Feminism - 260 as go by * Art+Activism ** Event #300: Art+Feminism NEW - Find Her * Find Her ** Event #301: Find Her
ANNOUNCEMENTS (EVENTS FACILITATED BY OTHERS) * All content gender gap events, in every language Wikipedia, in March 2024 * Francophone Women★ Writers Fortnight 2024 * Feminism and Folklore 2024
INVITATION: * Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/Outreach/2024#March 2024 ** logo COMING UP: * Wikipedia:WikiProject_Women_in_Red/Events TIP OF THE MONTH: * When creating a new article be sure to check various spellings, including birth name, married names and pseudonyms, to be sure an article doesn't already exist.
- Add details of the event to Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/events (see instructions at Template:WikiProject Women in Red/doc#Technical info). This will automatically update the various lists of events, and also allows editors to tag the article talk pages with
{{WikiProject Women in Red}}
or its shortcut{{WIR}}
. - Create the event page at
Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/Meetup/n
where n is the number of the new event. You can use the{{WIR meetup header}}
template to help you. - Create a new category for meetup articles (e.g. at Category:WikiProject Women in Red meetup 307 articles). Add the template {{WIR category}} to the new category.
- Create the invite (e.g. Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/Outreach/2024#March 2024) using the previous month's invite as a go-by.
- Invite and receive feedback from a sufficient number of WiR enthusiasts that the event page and invite are okay. Mark reviewed items with
{{ok}}
- Send out MassMessage notification.
(For ongoing re-write of instruction Archived: Basic overview of tasks using March 2021 as a guide edit
NEW * Art+Activism ** Event page: Art+Activism ** Talkpage template: Template:WIR-192 * VisibleWikiWomen ** Event page: VisibleWikiWomen ** Talkpage template: Template:WIR-193 CONTEST (Jan/Feb/Mar) * Africa ** Event page: Africa ** Talkpage template: Template:WIR-186 CONTINUING ** Women's rights **Template:WIR-188 ** #1day1woman2021 ** Template:WIR-184 & Template:WIR-00-2021 INVITATION: * Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/Outreach/2021#March 2021
General ideas for improving Women in Red edit
This section provides room for suggesting and discussing more general improvements to the project. There are no limitations here but topics could include membership, contests, collaboration, promotion and future expectations. Feel free to come forward with anything you think would make the project more effective.
Technical edit
Looking for feedback on the new version at Template:Women in Red navigation/sandbox — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 19:50, 31 March 2024 (UTC)
- @MSGJ: This looks good to me, however is there anyway to have the "Past events" in reverse chronological order so it would start with most recent past and end with 2015? --WomenArtistUpdates (talk) 21:36, 2 April 2024 (UTC)
- MSGJ - (1) Agree with WomenArtistUpdates regarding recommendation about the "Past events" in reverse chronological order so it would start with most recent past. (2) I'm curious regarding "Recently completed" events; why not just put the March events into the "Past events"? --Rosiestep (talk) 21:49, 2 April 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, recently completed can be merged into past events. The reason I did this is that they are kept separate on Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/Events so I was following that. I guess at the start of April, editors are still working on March events so a more prominent link is helpful? — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 09:02, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
- Yes of course. I actually did this already on the live template — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 08:59, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
- MSGJ - (1) Agree with WomenArtistUpdates regarding recommendation about the "Past events" in reverse chronological order so it would start with most recent past. (2) I'm curious regarding "Recently completed" events; why not just put the March events into the "Past events"? --Rosiestep (talk) 21:49, 2 April 2024 (UTC)
One biography a week edit
Not many of us are able to write a new article every day but most of us should be in a position to create one biography a week. How about making this a subsection of #1day1woman, starting in January 2024? Each participant could have a separate slot in which their new biographies could be listed. There would be no need for biographies to meet specific criteria such as minimum length but all new articles should meet normal standards of acceptance. We could provide virtual awards for those who manage to continue for three months (with at least 13 articles), six months (26 articles), nine months (39 articles) and for the whole of 2024 (52 articles). Participants should of course be able to create and list more than one new biography a week if they wish but everyone should try to create at least one per week. If contributors are able to keep this up, I believe it could have a significant effect on how we progress. There should be no need to participate from the beginning of January. Participants could join whenever they want and simply calculate periods of three months from the date of their first addition. Is this workable as it is or does anyone have other suggestions?--Ipigott (talk) 10:43, 9 December 2023 (UTC)
- @Ipigott: I really like this idea, especially the awards for different lengths of time (it's a lot easier to commit for three months and then keep going!). I'd be keen to commit to #1week1woman :) Chocmilk03 (talk) 20:57, 10 December 2023 (UTC)
- This idea is really attractive to me. Doing 1 article a day is just not workable for my schedule, especially since my free time to edit is largely just on the weekends. But managing one women's biography a week seems way more doable. I wholeheartedly support this proposal. SilverserenC 21:05, 10 December 2023 (UTC)
- @Ipigott: Just jumping in to say: I like this idea too. I haven't managed to carve out much time for article creation in a long while, and I'd really like to get back to that in 2024. One biography a week sounds doable (at least for a portion of the year!). Alanna the Brave (talk) 20:22, 19 December 2023 (UTC)
- This idea is really attractive to me. Doing 1 article a day is just not workable for my schedule, especially since my free time to edit is largely just on the weekends. But managing one women's biography a week seems way more doable. I wholeheartedly support this proposal. SilverserenC 21:05, 10 December 2023 (UTC)
- #1week1woman? Should it be a separate event? — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 13:59, 11 February 2024 (UTC)
- I still think this would be better set up as a separate event, so they can be tracked separetely. Happy to set this up e.g. on 305 if people think that is a good idea. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 10:33, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
- @MSGJ: I think we should set this up! Count me in. ChairMex (talk) 19:59, 10 April 2024 (UTC)
- ChairMex: It ran successfully from January to March as part of #1day1woman and is continuing from April to June here. It would be disruptive to make it a separate event at this stage. I hope you will join in as soon as possible. Please let me know if you run into any difficulties.--Ipigott (talk) 05:44, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
- @MSGJ: I think we should set this up! Count me in. ChairMex (talk) 19:59, 10 April 2024 (UTC)
- I still think this would be better set up as a separate event, so they can be tracked separetely. Happy to set this up e.g. on 305 if people think that is a good idea. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 10:33, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
Are we in touch with what events the world wants WiR to facilitate? edit
In a recent discussion on my talkpage with Ipigott regarding WiR events, I asked, ... I'm also curious if we aren't in touch with what events the world wants us to facilitate...
I suggested 3 quarterly campaigns for later this year: social influencers (Apr, May, June), sports (Jul, Aug, Sep), politics (Oct, Nov, Dec). There were also other salient points made in that section of my talkpage. Ian suggested that I shift the proposal regarding the 3 quarterly campaigns here. So, What do you think? --Rosiestep (talk) 19:46, 8 February 2024 (UTC)
- I think these three-month opportunities could serve as an important additional attraction. Contributors will have time to become familiar with the background and will be able to write about women who are gaining significance in the modern world. Many of our younger contributors should find the topics more in line with their interests than those requiring an interest in history. While I don't often write BLPs, I look forward, for example, to writing about notable TikTokers and YouTubers. It will be interesting to see if there is wider support for this venture.--Ipigott (talk) 09:29, 10 February 2024 (UTC)
New editor retention edit
As a general follow-up to a chat at my user talkpage with Ipigott about mentoring new contributors and ideas related to incentives to improve participation, I don't really have specifics to offer, but instead a few general perspectives to perhaps consider.
My perspective is based on how as an attorney, I became familiar with what is known as 'client-centered lawyering' (brief example overview: Client Centered Lawyering: An Avenue for Change, Aqdas Khudadad, October 12, 2022, University of Cincinnati Legal Clinic), and later in my M.Ed program, 'student-centered teaching' (there are a variety of monikers for this practice) (brief example overview: Student-Centered Learning: In Principle and in Practice (Christa Green and Christopher Harrington, July 20, 2020, Michigan Virtual Learning Research Institute). Ipigott, not to put you on the spot too much, but you seem to take what could be considered an 'editor-centered mentoring' approach, and I think this is a solid foundation upon which further efforts could be developed.
There is substantial research literature available on these subjects that may be helpful to review and adapt for new editor support and retention purposes. I use the term "retention" intentionally because of its use in the education field as a metric, so this may be a helpful keyword.
On a more specific note, maybe it would be helpful for new editors to have access to reflections from editors with more experience, about what it was like to be a new editor, what they wish they knew/what was a surprise to learn, and strategies that helped for coping with challenges. For this Wikiproject, perhaps we could tailor reflections to also include a focus related to writing about women. Beccaynr (talk) 19:24, 19 February 2024 (UTC)