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Jan 2024 edit

Firming up for January edit

 
WiR education 2024 suggested logo
Ongoing - Women who died in 2023 
* Women who died in 2023 
** Event #291: Women who died in 2023  Y
** Talkpage template: Template:WIR-291  Y

YEAR-LONG INITIATIVES
NEW -  #1day1woman 2024 
** Event #293: #1day1woman #1day1woman  Y
** Talkpage template: Template:WIR-293  Y

NEW - Education  - Year long initiative 
** Event #294:  Education Year long initiative Education Year long initiative  Y
** Talkpage template: Template:WIR-294  Y

NEW - Alphabet run M & N - 253 as go by
* Alphabet run M & N
** Event #295: Alphabet run M & N  Y
** Talkpage template: Template:WIR-295  Y

NEW - Temperance Women
* (to include Woman's Christian Temperance Union women, etc. etc.)
** Event #296: Temperance Women  Y
** Talkpage template: Template:WIR-296  Y

ANNOUNCEMENTS (EVENTS FACILITATED BY OTHERS)
* For 2024, Women in Red has added a one biography a week challenge to the #1day1woman initiative!  Y

INVITATION: 
* Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/Outreach/2024#January 2024  Y
** logo  Y
COMING UP:
* Wikipedia:WikiProject_Women_in_Red/Events  Y

TIP OF THE MONTH:
* Check out the new navigation on our Women in Red Project home page.  Y

Oronsay, Ipigott, Rosiestep, Lajmmoore, CT55555, Victuallers, Cielquiparle, SusunW, Chocmilk03, Penny Richards, Silver seren, PamD, Curbon7 and all WIR helpers: Here's a rough draft of the to-do list. I lost the thread of the discussion for the year long initiative. Seems like it kinda landed on Education, but I can't find that conversation. If someone knows where it is, please link it up. If you want to take a page (please!) ping here. Thanks. --WomenArtistUpdates (talk) 02:13, 20 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Education seemed to be favoured, closely followed by Literature and a suggestion of Jan-Jun and Jul-Dec. Over to others to firm up. Oronsay (talk) 03:36, 20 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • WomenArtistUpdates: There's seems to be sufficient support for my proposal on "one biography a week" for it to go ahead. Do you think it could be integrated smoothly into #1day1woman or should be handled as a separate event? If so, I can start preparing it. If it's to be part of #1day1woman, you might like to make a start and then I can try to adapt it. Personally I think it would fit in well to #1day1woman as contributors would be more likely to take part and the event would provide an overview of articles created about women from any sphere of interest.--Ipigott (talk) 07:34, 20 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • I've started the WCTU page - it would be great if someone more familiar with the subject could add some places to look for women in red though! Lajmmoore (talk) 08:30, 20 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • How about, instead of "WCTU", we name the event "Temperance women" in order to include the women who didn't belong to the WCTU? WCTU was prevalent in some countries but not all countries where women were doing temperance work. Also, there are other women's temperance-focused organizations. --Rosiestep (talk) 13:43, 20 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • I have some time right now, so I am going to make a start on #1day1woman 2024. I'll ping you when I have stopped working on it. Fine with me if you add the "one biography a week" into that page Ipigott. Lajmmoore Thanks for the heavy lift on WCTU :) --WomenArtistUpdates (talk) 19:03, 20 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Thanks for the Temperance women suggestion, @Rosiestep. I prefer the broader title. While others consider that change, I'll make a start on the M&N Alphabet run. Oronsay (talk) 19:11, 20 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Thanks, Oronsay regarding "Temperance Women" rather than WCTU. I think there's a lot of potential here! --Rosiestep (talk) 22:46, 20 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • WomenArtistUpdates, I don't think so, at least I couldn't find one at our Redlist Index. I will start adding To-Do information (redlinks) on the Temperance Women event page, and hope others will join in. Eventually, we can shift that information into crowd-sourced and/or Wikidata-generated lists. --Rosiestep (talk) 18:23, 22 December 2023 (UTC) So I created this Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/Temperance, which is shoddy and incomplete, but hoping that other editors will improve it as is the common wiki way. Note, I did add it to the Redlist Index and #296. --~~[reply]
WomenArtistUpdates, one of our newly-created biographical dictionary redlists, Representative Women of New England, features many women involved in the temperance movement. Curbon7 (talk) 21:14, 27 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks Curbon7. I have added it as a possible resource on the Temperance Women page. Looks promising :) --WomenArtistUpdates (talk) 23:46, 27 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@WomenArtistUpdates & everyone the thread for the year-long theme is here - most people seem to agree on Education, so I think I'll be bold and make that the year-long. I do think we should make sure the other options of Literature, The Arts and Business are covered too Lajmmoore (talk) 20:43, 20 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@WomenArtistUpdates the thread for the year-long theme is here - most people seem to agree on Education, so I think I'll be bold and make that the year-long. I do think we should make sure the other options of Literature, The Arts and Business are covered. Lajmmoore (talk) 20:48, 20 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • I am off #1day1woman 2024 for awhile. Ipigott, the page is yours. Sorry for any typos and mistakes that got through. All are encouraged to proof read. If you add your name to the participant list, we can assume you have looked it over and don't see any glaring errors.

Oronsay, Ipigott, Rosiestep, Lajmmoore, and all WIR helpers: It looks like the invitation and events pages are coming together :) I think we just about at the final proofing stage. I added an announcement about the biography a week portion of one day on woman.

  • WomenArtistUpdates: Thanks for your announcement. I already okayed it. Also the logo. Will look at everything else tomorrow.--Ipigott (talk) 17:01, 22 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

--WomenArtistUpdates (talk) 16:48, 22 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Ipigott it looks like the Events listing upgrade works! --WomenArtistUpdates (talk) 16:55, 22 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, it seems fine to me.--Ipigott (talk) 17:01, 22 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Thanks, Lajmmoore for okaying #1day1women. As I've now added details of our new option on "One biography a week" you might like to check it through once more. Others are of course also welcome to take a look. I don't think there's any need for a separate participants list as contributors names will appear in the new listing.--Ipigott (talk) 12:21, 21 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • I've looked through everything and it all looks pretty good to me. Nevertheless, as I've edited #293 #1day1woman, #294 Education and also the invitation, I would appreciate a new pair of eyes on these before we firm things up.--Ipigott (talk) 12:57, 23 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
* I've reviewed Education and and the invitation and Events. I marked them as OK. I am one of the creators of #293 #1day1woman so I am blind to the content at this point :) WomenArtistUpdates (talk) 17:08, 23 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • May I suggest that we wait until the 27th before we send out the invitations. We don't want to interfere with all the other greetings and people will be more attentive after Christmas.--Ipigott (talk) 15:24, 24 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • I've rechecked and okayed #293. Everything therefore seems to be ready for sending out the invitation. If Lajmmoore is not available, maybe someone else could step in.--Ipigott (talk) 07:30, 28 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    Thanks so much @Ipigott - I've sent the messaging, although I forgot to add my signature to the first A-F list - sorry about that! If anyone knows how to fix it, that would be great! (cross-posted to main talk page) Lajmmoore (talk) 20:26, 28 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Great! I wouldn't worry too much about the missing signature.--Ipigott (talk) 20:40, 28 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

YEAR-LONG INITIATIVES edit

  • #1day1woman 2024

WCTU-athon edit

Per Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Women in Red#Women's Christian Temperance Union

Alphabet run M and N edit

Alphabet by month
Month Letters
July A & B
August C & D
September E & F
October G & H
November I & J
December K & L
January M & N
February O & P
March Q & R
April S & T
May U, V, W
June X, Y & Z

Annual January initiative - Women who died in 2023 edit

  • Dec 2023 & Jan 2024

Tip of the month edit

Check out the new navigation on our Women in Red Project home page.

Feb 2024 edit

Firming up for February edit 

YEAR-LONG INITIATIVES
#1day1woman 2024 
** Event #293: #1day1woman #1day1woman  Y
** Talkpage template: Template:WIR-293  Y
Education  - Year long initiative 
** Event #294:  Education Year long initiative Education Year long initiative  Y
** Talkpage template: Template:WIR-294  Y

NEW - Alphabet run O & P - 255 as go by
* Alphabet run O & P
** Event #297: Alphabet run O & P  Y
** Talkpage template: Template:WIR-297  Y

NEW - Black women - 256 as go by
* Black women
** Event #298: Black women  Y
** Talkpage template: Template:WIR-298  Y

NEW - Women in stage and screen - 279 as go by
* Women in stage and screen
** Event #299:   Women in stage and screen   
** Talkpage template:  Template:WIR-299   - postponed

ANNOUNCEMENTS  (EVENTS FACILITATED BY OTHERS) 
* Please let other wikiprojects know about Women in Red's February Black women event! ((ok))

INVITATION: 
* Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/Outreach/2024#February 2024  Y
** logo  Y
COMING UP:
* Wikipedia:WikiProject_Women_in_Red/Events  Y
TIP OF THE MONTH:
* AllAfrica can now be searched on the ProQuest tab at the WP Library  Y

Oronsay, Ipigott, Rosiestep, Lajmmoore, CT55555, Victuallers, Cielquiparle, SusunW, Chocmilk03, Penny Richards, Silver seren, PamD, Curbon7 and all WIR helpers: Here's a rough draft of the to-do list. Just a note, we last did Stage and Screen in August 2023 and I cannot remember why we have bumped it up to February. Also, does anyone know of any other Black history month events that would be good for ANNOUNCEMENTS? --WomenArtistUpdates (talk) 20:03, 19 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I seem to remember a discussion about having an event for women behind the scenes, rather than actors. Stage + Screen is in our Table of annual events/collaborations for August.--Oronsay (talk) 06:45, 20 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oronsay - Good catch. Do we have redlists for behind the scenes? Would it make sense for behind the scenes to be separate from the August event? --Rosiestep (talk) 09:41, 20 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
There are redlists for Animators, Casting directors, Costume designers, Film crew, Film directors, Film producers, Screenwriters, Sound and audio, and Theater. And perhaps we could include the one for Stunt performers. I didn't check to see how many are listed, but some are tagged as large. Oronsay (talk) 20:11, 20 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oh my goodness! Our event #299 will happen in February, which means that event #300 will take place in March for Women's History Month. I know it's just a number, but is sure stands out to me as being meaningful in some way. I am in awe that people have come together, going on 299 times, to do something so good for humanity. --Rosiestep (talk) 20:17, 19 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I'm happy to make a start on setting up the alphabet page, will do that now!
@Rosiestep: what a wonderful milestone for the project. :) Chocmilk03 (talk) 22:13, 19 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • It seems appropriate to me that #300 will be for Women's History Month. We should try to make the most of it.--Ipigott (talk) 10:26, 24 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Thanks Another Believer! Would you be willing to craft the announcement in the template above? Putting the links and pings in there to reach the widest, best audience? --WomenArtistUpdates (talk) 17:24, 24 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry, I'm not sure what you're asking/needing exactly. I'm probably not the best person to craft the announcement, but I am happy to post the announcement/invite to relevant WikiProjects, if that's helpful. ---Another Believer (Talk) 17:32, 24 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Another Believer and Ipigott, etc., How about we "flip the script" and ask WiR participants to spread the word about our Black History event. I've cobbled an idea up in the announcements section. --WomenArtistUpdates (talk) 19:18, 24 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

{{|WomenArtistUpdates}}: Yes, this and everything else seems fine to me. Thanks for your efforts.--Ipigott (talk) 13:41, 27 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Lajmmoore, Over to you to send please. --WomenArtistUpdates (talk) 16:44, 27 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@WomenArtistUpdates on it! Lajmmoore (talk) 20:04, 28 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

edit

 
WIR Black History Month 2024 draft

Draft uploaded. Comments welcome.--WomenArtistUpdates (talk) 18:36, 19 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Annual edit

  • Black History Month with AfroCrowd
  • Stage+Screen (with Outcomes sections for "on-stage/on-screen" and "off-stage/off-screen"?)
  • Maybe: Behind the Scenes: Stage & Screen - and really just focus on people behind the camera?--originally unsigned, Lajmmoore (talk)
  • Lajmmoore, Would "Stage & Screen" be later in the year? --Rosiestep (talk) 23:13, 21 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Rosiestep I'm not sure tbh! Lajmmoore (talk) 09:19, 23 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Lajmmoore Rosiestep and other interested parties, Why don't we move it back to August and focus on off-stage/off-screen at that time? Black History month is a pretty big draw and we should still reach event 300 in March. --WomenArtistUpdates (talk) 15:40, 23 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Sounds reasonable. --Rosiestep (talk) 16:55, 23 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Alphabet run O and P edit

Alphabet by month
Month Letters
July A & B
August C & D
September E & F
October G & H
November I & J
December K & L
January M & N
February O & P
March Q & R
April S & T
May U, V, W
June X, Y & Z
The O & P alphabet page and template are now ready for checking! Thank you to Oronsay for setting up the most frequent redlists. Cheers, Chocmilk03 (talk) 22:10, 20 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Tip of the month edit

AllAfrica can now be searched on the ProQuest tab at the WP Library

suggested tip of the month for February. --WomenArtistUpdates (talk) 00:04, 16 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Good idea. Maybe extend it a bit as When creating a new article be sure to check various spellings, including birth name, married names and pseudonyms, to be sure an article doesn't already exist.--Ipigott (talk) 15:37, 18 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I don't disagree that the suggested tip is a critical one. If one specific to our Black History Month is appropriate for this particular month, we might include that AllAfrica can now be searched on the ProQuest tab at the WP Library. SusunW (talk) 19:44, 18 January 2024 (UTC)   Done[reply]
Thanks Ipigott, much better wording. SusunW, No problems with this moving to March. Might, in fact, be good with the redirect drive. Another step in getting us all in the habit of checking for existence of article and then creating a redirect if it does exist. --WomenArtistUpdates (talk) 01:26, 19 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Mar 2024 edit

Firming up for March edit

 
WiR "Find Her" logo draft
YEAR-LONG INITIATIVES
#1day1woman 2024 
** Event #293: #1day1woman #1day1woman  Y
** Talkpage template: Template:WIR-293  Y
Education  - Year long initiative 
** Event #294:  Education Year long initiative Education Year long initiative  Y
** Talkpage template: Template:WIR-294  Y

NEW - Alphabet run Q & R 
* Alphabet run Q & R
** Event #299: Alphabet run Q & R  Y
** Talkpage template: Template:WIR-299  Y

NEW -  Women's History Month | Art+Feminism  - 260 as go by
* Art+Activism
** Event #300: Art+Feminism  Y
** Talkpage template: Template:WIR-300

NEW -   Find Her  
*  Find Her  
** Event #301: Find Her  Y
** Talkpage template: Template:WIR-301 

ANNOUNCEMENTS (EVENTS FACILITATED BY OTHERS) 
* All content gender gap events, in every language Wikipedia, in March 2024
* Francophone Women★ Writers Fortnight 2024
* Feminism and Folklore 2024

INVITATION: 
* Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/Outreach/2024#March 2024  Y
** logo  Y
COMING UP:
* Wikipedia:WikiProject_Women_in_Red/Events  Y
TIP OF THE MONTH:
* When creating a new article be sure to check various spellings, including birth name, married names and pseudonyms, to be sure an article doesn't already exist.  Y

Oronsay, Ipigott, Rosiestep, Lajmmoore, CT55555, Victuallers, Cielquiparle, SusunW, Chocmilk03, Penny Richards, Silver seren, PamD, Curbon7 and all WIR helpers: Here's a rough draft of the to-do list. Several ideas are listed below under annual etc. Hoping those who have commented will participate in meet up pages. --WomenArtistUpdates (talk) 02:03, 20 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@WomenArtistUpdates: thank you! I can create the Redirect Her / Find Her page based on what I'd already started drafting. Would it also be possible to link to the following under events facilitated by others: Francophone Women★ Writers Fortnight 2024. I (as a rep for the WikiWomen's User Group) have set this up together with les sans pagEs and it would be wonderful to get some WiR editors involved. Cheers, Chocmilk03 (talk) 02:23, 20 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, @WomenArtistUpdates, once again for getting us underway. I'll make a start on #300 Art + Feminism. Oronsay (talk) 02:23, 20 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I have withdrawn my offer. I am totally confused by your Q&R, @WomenArtistUpdates. I don't understand how this new system works. Am happy to proofread closer to despatch of the invitation. Sorry.--Oronsay (talk) 02:32, 20 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
WomenArtistUpdates: Thanks for the alert but I am also confused. When I looked at your alphabet rerun page, it started with Template:WIR meetup header. When I looked it up, it pointed to Black Women. Is this the result of reworking by MSGJ? If so, clarifications are needed. In any case, it no longer seems possible to base new meetups on similar past events as they are not set up in the same way. So unless I am mistaken it looks as if a series of copy and pastes will now be necessary.--Ipigott (talk) 07:08, 20 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
OK Oronsay and Ipigott. I'll make 300 Art + Feminism to see if I can reproduce the outcome of 299. It took me a minute to get my brain wrapped around the new format. Best, --WomenArtistUpdates (talk) 15:58, 20 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hey everyone, if the template is making things difficult then just revert back to the usual way that you create meetup pages. Ipigott, the display on Template:WIR meetup header is an example, which now shows the most recent event. This display will change when you add the parameter. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 16:18, 20 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oronsay, Ipigott, WomenArtistUpdates, Lajmmoore, CT55555, Victuallers, Cielquiparle, SusunW, Chocmilk03, Penny Richards, Silver seren, PamD, Curbon7 Yes, please, let's continue with the usual way that we create WiR meetup pages. Like other editors have mentioned, I am flummoxed by the instructions regarding a potential new approach.
MSGJ, if you'd like to discuss a potential new approach to creating WiR meetup pages, please start that conversation on the main WiR talkpage. Thanks. --Rosiestep (talk) 16:51, 20 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Well, I think I have figured it out. The skeletons are up. What do we want to call 301 "Find Her" or something else? Also 301 need some text. New is always hard, but I think we need to proceed by using the previous month's events and editing those rather than taking last year's event and editing it. Follow steps below. --WomenArtistUpdates (talk) 16:56, 20 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I think I have "figured it out" too but I had to go into the new template to see how it had been set up. It was not initially obvious how it had brought together the various templates we use when creating meetup pages. Just to see if it was still possible for us to edit the various details, I changed the ages for WP Women and WP Women's History to after and before 1960 rather than 1950 and was pleased to see it worked. But our earlier approach was much more transparent.--Ipigott (talk) 17:09, 20 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Great Ipigott! I am looking at this like I approached the new "skin" a couple of months ago. I'll get used to it. A wise wikipedian advised me to just go with the new. I think we should treat March as a learning month and revisit the instructions section after all has been launched. Actually, when I first started making meet up pages, a few years ago, I found that extremely opaque, so I don't have an issue with learning a new way. --WomenArtistUpdates (talk) 18:25, 20 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ipigott, Rosiestep, Chocmilk03, PamD, and all WIR helpers: The draft of Event #301: Redirect Her" (or) "Find Her is up. It needs text and redlinks and a decision about the title of the event. Oronsay, do you know how to make the Q and R redlists for the alphabet run? Thanks,--WomenArtistUpdates (talk) 18:31, 20 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I've done those lists now, @WomenArtistUpdates. Had some challenges and had to split R which, in retrospect was not necessary, but there we are. And, @Ipigott, I reverted the 1960 to our standard 1950 - hope that's ok. Oronsay (talk) 21:39, 20 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Actually, Oronsay, the reason I changed it is that I've been thinking about doing so for some time. It's now over eight years since we introduced 1950 as a break point and I come across more and more instances of women's biographies which seem to merit Women's History for achievements up to 1960. But I think I should probably first raise it with WP Women's History from where I first received a recommendation in regard to 1950 around 2010. It should probably also be discussed on WIR talk.--Ipigott (talk) 08:56, 21 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Their project page still suggests 1950, but that does not look like an active WikiProject so it is not surprising that it hasn't been updated. It might be worth having a discussion with the project (in case anyone responds) about merging with WikiProject Women and becoming a subproject. Then it not be necessary to have such an arbitrary cut-off between history and non-history — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 09:13, 21 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
MSGJ: In regard to Wikipedia:WikiProject Women's History, there might not be much in the way of discussion there but it is an extremely important wikiproject for WiR and for Women in Green in connection with article assessment and recognized content. I add or edit Women's History templates on article talk pages every day. It's not quite true to say that the project "still suggests 1950". It actually sets out to cover "the lives, activities, achievements, and experiences of women up to the mid-20th century" which is not the same as born before or after 1950. For achievements before 1950 to be included, then we might expect women's births of 1930 or earlier. But as you say, this should be discussed elsewhere.--Ipigott (talk) 12:02, 22 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks Oronsay! --WomenArtistUpdates (talk) 21:57, 20 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
WomenArtistUpdates, love the logo for the "Find Her" event!! --Rosiestep (talk) 19:07, 20 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Ditto! Perfection, thanks @WomenArtistUpdates. I've made a start on adding some text and useful links but am on my phone this morning so it's a bit tricky, will do more later! Cheers, Chocmilk03 (talk) 19:49, 20 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
She is based on Nancy Drew. :) --WomenArtistUpdates (talk) 21:57, 20 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
She's delightful and just what is needed. A supersleuth at work, as are we all. Oronsay (talk) 23:42, 20 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I've now fleshed out the text for Find Her, but very keen for input from others since it is a bit of a different format to our usual events. For example, there are no redlists as such, so I've instead included links to orphaned articles that might be relevant and articles missing categories.
(P.S. @Rosiestep, you'd previously made the excellent suggestion of running this as a worldwide event through the WikiWomen's User Group. Although I'd made a start on thinking about that, I haven't had chance to progress it as my Wiki capacity has been a bit limited this month and I've been focussed on setting up the English version of the Francophone Women Writers fortnight. If the WIR event goes well this year, perhaps we can do it as an international version next year!) Cheers, Chocmilk03 (talk) 01:16, 21 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Chocmilk03, I think Find Her looks good. I bolded This is a new event! We hope both inexperienced and seasoned editors will join us in creating redirects and adding categories and wikilinks to make it easier to find women. It seems like a great way to draw in new participants and emphasis might make it clear that it is a gnomish experience rather than a writing one. I also added the tip "Read the essay on Writing women into the encyclopedia describing how "writing about women on Wikipedia doesn't stop after you've created a biography." I continue to find it a great resource. Please feel free to revert one or both edits. --WomenArtistUpdates (talk) 01:24, 22 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Super helpful! Thanks very much. That link is an excellent essay. :) Chocmilk03 (talk) 01:35, 22 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Art+Feminism looks fine but I've edited the introduction to match evolving A+F activities. Would be grateful if someone can double-check. I've also suggested a tip.--Ipigott (talk) 13:38, 23 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Ipigott, Thanks for tidying up Art+Feminism. It looks fine to me, but I have had a hand in all the pages, so I am not a reliable second pair of eyes on anything in March. I actually like original "Tip of the Month" for March because it dovetails with the "Find Her" project. --WomenArtistUpdates (talk) 18:30, 23 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oronsay and all WIR helpers:, Could you proof read the March event? Change "not ok" to "ok" in the to-do list above, or add your name to "participants" to signify the page looks good to you --WomenArtistUpdates (talk) 18:37, 23 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry, been busy today. Will check everything out in about 12-14 hours' time. Oronsay (talk) 06:45, 24 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
All checked and now OK. Oronsay (talk) 20:11, 24 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Why are all the templates struck out? Are they wrong? In the invitation, would it be useful to include this link for Visible Women or is there a better one?--Ipigott (talk) 09:57, 24 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    We no longer need a separate template for each event. Typing {{WIR|301}} uses Template:WIR and so Template:WIR-301 is not used. It wasn't me that struck them, but I'm guessing this is the reason — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 14:16, 24 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Ipigott! Yes MSGJ has stated the reason correctly, we no longer need to create the templates so I struck that from the to do list and the request for proof reading. --WomenArtistUpdates (talk) 17:03, 24 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. As for Visible Women, I see the Meta page is all about 2023. I suggest we remove it from the invitation unless Rosiestep or Victuallers can get things moving again.--Ipigott (talk) 18:31, 24 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I haven't heard anything about VisibleWikiWomen for 2024, so I removed it from the invite. I added a link to the "Celebrate Women" page on Wiki-Meta (which is where all content-gender-gap events, in all language Wikipedias, on-wiki/off-wiki will be promoted.) --Rosiestep (talk) 18:45, 24 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Lajmmoore: Looks as if we are ready to go.--Ipigott (talk) 11:05, 25 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Done! Lajmmoore (talk) 20:24, 25 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Redirects edit

See my suggestion here: Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Women in Red/Archive 138#New WiR event: "Redirect Her" vs. "Find Her". --Rosiestep (talk) 22:45, 15 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Working on this! It will be great if maybe the March invite could link to our WWUG project page once it's set up. Cheers, Chocmilk03 (talk) 22:11, 19 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Francophone Women* Writes edit

Hello @Rosiestep. I would like to propose a collaboration in March with les sans pagEs if WIR is willing to. It's is our annual Francophone Women* Writes Fortnight, and we are trying to get more participation from non French speaking projects. Here is the main page of the campaign Francophone Women* Writers Fortnight/2024.
I would be glad to propose this as a lot of women* francophone writers are from Africa which is very poorly represented on our projects, so this could be a way of having an intersectionnal impact. I'd be glad to help someone here who would like to put up a project page and a fountain tool for the campaign. Warm regards Nattes à chat (talk) 21:14, 17 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry if this is not the correct place to propose :/ Nattes à chat (talk) 21:14, 17 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Nattes à chat, we love collaborating! I'm going to copy your message here so that the WWUG representatives can be in contact with you. --Rosiestep (talk) 21:20, 17 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Have been in touch with Nattes à chat and will work on creating a project page via WWUG. What would be awesome is if WIR could do something linked for the month of March; maybe Francophone writers, or Francophone African women per Lajmmoore? Something to keep in mind for next month of course, don't need to decide now. :) Chocmilk03 (talk) 22:11, 19 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Great ideas there ! I have updating the working list on meta, but feel free to add some more if you wish. Important thing is it has to be about francophone women* writers or writings (it can also be theater or poetry, but all in frenchie !) Nattes à chat (talk) 23:58, 19 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks @Nattes à chat!
All: I have made a start on a project page for the Francophone writers fortnight event on English Wikipedia. Would it be OK to list WiR as "in collaboration with" for this one? I have borrowed heavily from WIR event formatting (hope that is OK with everyone, in the classic Wiki fashion I'm just being bold and please tell me if I'm out of line...! It's only a draft at this stage.) Cheers, Chocmilk03 (talk) 03:17, 20 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
For me it's ok. Thank you very much ! I am so thrilled if the work that the african groups did over two years is finally translated bringing visibility to francophone African women* ! Nattes à chat (talk) 05:40, 20 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Annual edit

Alphabet run Q and R edit

Alphabet by month
Month Letters
July A & B
August C & D
September E & F
October G & H
November I & J
December K & L
January M & N
February O & P
March Q & R
April S & T
May U, V, W
June X, Y & Z

Hi MSGJ, I was trying to remove the extra space in the very bottom of the right-hand infobox on Alphabet Run: O & P where is states Editathon banner: {{WIR|297 }}. I quickly realized that you have replaced that side infobox with a template. I tried to drill down to fix it. I couldn't figure out where the template was grabbing the data for the infobox. I wandered around in "Template:Women in Red navigation", but couldn't quite figure it out. I looked through {{WIR meetup header|297 |pinterest=february-2024-editathons |background=F2E0CE |image=PearlGrigsbyRichardson1919.png |caption=P is for [[Pearl Grigsby Richardson]] }} But couldn't get much farther.

WiR will begin discussing and creating the March editathon meetups around the 20th. Before then, would it be possible for you to create Event #299: Alphabet run Q & R and document how you created the page? If not I think we will be using earlier versions with the infoboxes we know how to make. I am pinging our most active editors Oronsay, Ipigott, Rosiestep, Lajmmoore with an additional ping to Kj cheetham who has been working on the tidy template project to see if they would like to help too.

I see the new step 4 in "Ideas page administration" at the bottom of the page, but I need you to dumb down explanation for me to follow it. Anyone who knows coding better than me, feel free to chime in. We for sure know there is going to be 299- Alphabet run Q & R, so test away. Thanks! --WomenArtistUpdates (talk) 00:08, 17 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I hope we can simply continue to use the templates and infoboxes we are familiar with. It should also be possible for us to edit any innovations without difficulty.--Ipigott (talk) 06:47, 17 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
WomenArtistUpdates not sure if someone else has already fixed it, but I can't see that extra space on Wikipedia:WikiProject_Women_in_Red/Meetup/297? I assume https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template%3AWIR_meetup_header&diff=1208391405&oldid=1206936642 fixed it though. -Kj cheetham (talk) 10:42, 17 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
For making a new event, not something I've ever done myself before, but looking at Wikipedia:WikiProject_Women_in_Red/Ideas#Basic_overview_of_tasks_using_March_2021_as_a_guide I'm not seeing an obvious missing step. I've just done step 1 ([1]), step 2 would be to populate Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/Meetup/299 based on the last alphabet run (Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/Meetup/297) and clean it up. Step 3 is add to the events list as per Template:WikiProject_Women_in_Red/doc#Technical_info. Is step 4 actually needed? I don't think it is, as it's the same template step 1 redirects to anyway. -Kj cheetham (talk) 10:55, 17 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
P.S. I recommend step 4 is merged into step 1. -Kj cheetham (talk) 11:06, 17 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for taking a look at this Kj cheetham. It does look like MSGJ has fixed the spacing problem https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template%3AWIR_meetup_header&diff=1208391405&oldid=1206936642. I still am concerned about how all this will work once the 20th rolls around. Will do my very best to follow the steps to create 299|Alphabet run Q & R, but will ping for help if I get lost. --WomenArtistUpdates (talk) 16:38, 17 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yes I did fix it earlier, but didn't have time to comment here (busy day!) I could automate step 1 on that list, but I know WAU is somewhat skeptical of templates in this situation, so I will resist the urge unless explicity asked — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 20:44, 17 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks @WomenArtistUpdates, @MSGJ and @Kj cheetham for all your work on this. I think we will need to draw participants' attention to the revised template format. I guess a bot can be run from time to time to update any use of the old style? Oronsay (talk) 20:55, 17 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Which template are you referring to? — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 17:40, 19 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
MSGJ, I think Oronsay is referring to the fact that the side infobox (on the event page) refers to {{WIR|297}} and maybe it should say {{WikiProject Women in Red|297}} to conform to the current templating. Not really an issue, since chewbot is taking care of this. (PS hope to try this all out soon.) --WomenArtistUpdates (talk) 18:10, 19 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
WIR|297 is not currently changed to WikiProject Women in Red|297 but this is something we could do if the project wishes. It's WIR-297 that is automatically changed to WikiProject Women in Red|297 — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 19:26, 19 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Um...I believe you coded it to say {{WIR|297}} . See https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template%3AWIR_meetup_header&diff=1208391405&oldid=1206936642. I think it should be updated to something that will work :) --WomenArtistUpdates (talk) 21:45, 19 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry if I was not clear. WIR|297 will indeed work, but what I said is that it will not automatically convert to WikiProject Women in Red|297, it will stay as WIR|297 — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 22:03, 19 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I understand now MSGJ. I have finished my attempt to create Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/Meetup/299. If you could take a look, at your convenience, to check my work I'd appreciate it. I am moving on to our to do list for March. Thanks. --WomenArtistUpdates (talk) 01:35, 20 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
All looks good. I made a few tweaks as you will see. By the way, there is no need to create a new wrapper template now, so {{WIR-299}} will not be used and {{WIR-300}} will not be needed either :) — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 16:20, 20 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks MSGJ. I really got the hang of it by page 301. I don't understand what you mean about creating new wrapper templates. Only because I thought I had created them! What is interesting is that the Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/events template is finicky, but it points you to your coding mistake. The "Find Her" logo had quotation marks in the title that was introducing an error. All is right with the world now, except I am in the process of changing the name of the image file. Hope you are around for pinging as we move ahead with March planning. Best, --WomenArtistUpdates (talk) 18:11, 20 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I was actually asking you not to create the wrapper templates because they are no longer needed! When an editor types {{WIR|300}} they are using Template:WIR and so Template:WIR-300 is redundant. Anyway, no problem, we can delete them later. I notice you used "type": "initiative" for all the events you added, but my understanding is that "initiatives" are the year-long events and these are regular edit-a-thons. If that is true, then you can just leave out the "type" altogether — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 20:27, 20 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks MSGJ. I believe I understand both points, and am making a note for updated directions. --WomenArtistUpdates (talk) 16:19, 21 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Which instructions are you using? I have updated docs at Template:WikiProject Women in Red/doc and Template:WIR meetup header/doc but perhaps you have another set. By the way, the only part you missed was creating the category for the meetup articles, e.g. Category:WikiProject Women in Red meetup 299 articles, which is an extra step now — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 16:32, 21 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

HI MSGJ. I am referring to the steps listed at the bottom of this page under Ideas page administration, then Basic overview of tasks using March 2021 as a guide. That's where we keep the steps so anyone can participate in the monthly initiatives if they want to. I am hoping to update it with Basic overview of tasks using March 2024 as a guide some time in March --WomenArtistUpdates (talk) 16:29, 22 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Tip of the month edit

When creating a new article be sure to check various spellings, including birth name, married names and pseudonyms, to be sure an article doesn't already exist. --WomenArtistUpdates (talk) 18:38, 19 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I like this tip! If not too wordy, I wondered whether we could link to the Find Her event by adding something along the lines of:
When creating a new article be sure to check various spellings, including birth name, married names and pseudonyms, to be sure an article doesn't already exist. If it doesn't, you can create redirects to your new article from these alternative names.
Cheers, Chocmilk03 (talk) 23:05, 20 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Event pages as of 1 March GMT edit

Hi MSGJ, As of 1 March GMT the pages with no secial paramaters in the "meetup header" are dispalying perfectly:Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/Meetup/294, Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/Meetup/300, Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/Meetup/301. The ones with special paramaters are still displying February: Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/Meetup/293, and Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/Meetup/299.

The past event Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/Meetup/298 has updated correctly Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/Meetup/297 has not. Could you take a look at the headers please. Thank you! --WomenArtistUpdates (talk) 02:06, 1 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

They are all displaying the same (but sometimes a purge is needed to update the cache). For simplicity the navigation links do not use the event number at all, they simply show the current and ongoing events based on the current time. Question: would it be useful to also include links to the events from February which have just finished? — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 10:49, 1 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Ah, clearing the cache! Thanks MSGJ. And yes, the Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/Events page needs to be updated. Could you provided guidance? I have some stuff to do IRL so I don't know when I'll be able to log back in this weekend. --WomenArtistUpdates (talk) 16:04, 1 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I just pressed Purge on that page too and it has now updated! — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 16:19, 1 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Apr 2024 edit

Firming up for April edit

 
WiR Health 2024 - draft
#1day1woman 2024 
** Event #293: #1day1woman #1day1woman: updated for one bio a day, Apr-Jun  Y 
Education  - Year long initiative 
** Event #294:  Education Year long initiative Education Year long initiative 

NEW - Alphabet run S & T
* Alphabet run S & T
** Event #302: Alphabet run S & T  Y

NEW -  Gender studies - 262 as go by
* Gender studies
** Event #303: Gender studies  Y

NEW -  Health - 263 as go by
*  Health
** Event #304: Health  Y

ANNOUNCEMENTS (EVENTS FACILITATED BY OTHERS) 
* *The second round of "One biography a week" begins in April as part of #1day1woman Y

INVITATION: 
* Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/Outreach/2024#April 2024  Y
** logo  Y

COMING UP:
* Wikipedia:WikiProject_Women_in_Red/Events  Y
TIP OF THE MONTH:
* If you run into technical problems, you might find help on our Tools and technical support page  Y

Oronsay, Ipigott, Rosiestep, Lajmmoore, CT55555, Victuallers, Cielquiparle, SusunW, Chocmilk03, Penny Richards, Silver seren, PamD, Curbon7, MSGJ and all WIR helpers: Here's a rough draft of the to-do list. We need to decide on the 3rd event. I would prefer Health over Environment because Environment was our annual event last year. I have created skeleton pages for #302: Alphabet run S & T and #303: Gender studies. Anyone wanting to work on the actual content please see Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/Meetup/265 and Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/Meetup/262

Please state your preferences or ideas for the 3rd meetup for april. Thanks. --WomenArtistUpdates (talk) 20:54, 20 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

+1 for Health. Looks like a great line-up! --Rosiestep (talk) 22:00, 20 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Agree, health sounds good to me. Thanks @WomenArtistUpdates! Chocmilk03 (talk) 22:15, 20 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Another vote for Health. Thanks, @WomenArtistUpdates, for getting us started again. Oronsay (talk) 00:14, 21 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank y'all. Health it is. --WomenArtistUpdates (talk) 00:22, 21 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I've added the content and redlists to Health. Also, all the redlists have been updated in March for both Health and Gender, except for Mental health professional which is in the update queue.--Oronsay (talk) 20:06, 22 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Not sure who is following up on the "One biography a week" project. Do we need to remind everyone about it in the April invitation as it's the beginning of a new quarter? Oronsay (talk) 20:15, 22 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oronsay: I intend to provide recognition in early April to those who have succeeded in adding one biography a month over the past three months. A new three month period will indeed be starting on 1 April. I have adapted #293 accordingly. It might indeed be useful to provide a reminder in the invitation. Thanks for bringing this up.--Ipigott (talk) 07:09, 30 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I have just added description and redlists for the Alphabet run: S & T for April as the end of the month is fast approaching. I would like to have included an image of Catherine Helen Spence but have no idea how to do this under the new system, which I have found tricky to navigate (I withdrew an offer to create an event page last month for this reason). Also, there is a problem with the Most frequently linked redlists and I've approached @Certes, who created the original lists, about it. At this stage, I've left mention of these lists for S & T commented out. Oronsay (talk) 20:26, 28 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Oronsay, I couldn't quite remember how to do it either, so I opened Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/Meetup/299 (Q & R) and used the top of the page as a templete. I knew I was looking for Rosa Parks. Thank you so much for doing this one :) WomenArtistUpdates (talk) 21:12, 28 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Added text to Gender studies. Still awaiting a response on who is following up on the "One biography a week" project. --WomenArtistUpdates (talk) 01:07, 29 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
WomenArtistUpdates I think gender studies looks great. I really like your text and the encouragement not just to write articles but to add names to the list. You know this one is one of my "must do" editathons, so I am going to take a break from my chain for April. Thank you for all that you do for WiR. SusunW (talk) 16:44, 29 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hello Oronsay, Ipigott, Rosiestep, Lajmmoore, CT55555, Victuallers, Cielquiparle, SusunW, Chocmilk03, Penny Richards, Silver seren, PamD, Curbon7, MSGJ - are ther any announcements for the invitation for this month? Other initiatives we can signpost people to? If not, I can check the invite and send it today? Thanks for all the hard work all Lajmmoore (talk) 09:46, 30 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I checked here, Lajmmoore; it seems like the answer is no, but someone should doublecheck as it's a bit confusing. --Rosiestep (talk) 09:54, 30 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Rosiestep: Isn't Celebrate Women for March? I just checked through everything for April and it all looks ok to me - but awaiting your confirmation.--Ipigott (talk) 10:00, 30 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, it is mainly for March, but sometimes, events cross over into April, so that's why I checked there. I also looked at the Wikiwomen Telegram channel, but Chocmilk03 may be keeping a closer eye on that. --Rosiestep (talk) 10:32, 30 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Perhaps there should be a mention of the 2nd quarter of the "One biography a week" - to get editors onboard who may have missed the original announcement in our January invitation? Oronsay (talk) 13:32, 30 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oronsay: Thanks to your earlier suggestion, I have mentioned this in the invitation. Does it need to be mentioned anywhere else? If you are happy with everything, we can perhaps give the go-ahead to Lajmmoore. There's not much time left.--Ipigott (talk) 15:52, 30 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks so much @Ipigott. All looks good to go now. Over to @Lajmmoore, please, to broadcast the invitation. Oronsay (talk) 19:10, 30 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Ipigott @Oronsay done! Lajmmoore (talk) 19:43, 30 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Technical side conversation up for April edit

MSGJ, Thank you for reviewing the pages. As of now would this be the best "example" of the beginning of a page? Changing the event number and the month? Also, did I make the three new pages (302, 303, and 304) correctly or did I miss something? I ask, because I used the instructions we drafted last month and I'd like to edit them If I misunderstood a step or two. Best, --WomenArtistUpdates (talk) 15:58, 21 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Looks good! If you check my edits to each page then you will see the tidying/fixing I did, but mostly it was fine — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 16:09, 21 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I did see the further tidy updates! User/creator/editor is placing most info (background color, template info, graphics) about the page in Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/events which then cascades through the WiR ecosystem. I did remember to purge the cache! --WomenArtistUpdates (talk) 16:18, 21 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Suggest Celebrating 300!! Did you know that we curate the pictures of the women we add? Victuallers (talk) 09:56, 30 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oh, my, Victuallers. It's been awhile since I clicked on the WiR Pinterest board for the month, and it stunned me. Look at those piercing photos of those notable women! If editors weren't creating the articles and if Penny wasn't uploading their photos to Pinterest, where would these 118 women be visible? Rhetorical question. This is all to say that I support your suggestion! --Rosiestep (talk) 10:05, 30 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Annual edit

Environmentalists edit

Suggested by Kazamzam on WIR's talk page to coincide with Earth Day on April 22. Also related to World Health Day.--Ipigott (talk) 09:14, 4 December 2023 (UTC)¨s[reply]

Alphabet run S and T edit

Alphabet by month
Month Letters
July A & B
August C & D
September E & F
October G & H
November I & J
December K & L
January M & N
February O & P
March Q & R
April S & T
May U, V, W
June X, Y & Z

Tip of the Month edit

If you run into technical problems, you might find help on our Tools and technical support page.

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