User talk:Yulia Romero/Archive 5

Why did you remove the Ukrainian Christmas Tree?

Most Ukrainian Christians are Pravoslavnie - this is usually translated into English as Orthodox. For Pravoslavnie, the date of Christmas Day is 7 January.--Toddy1 (talk) 05:27, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

Your right; I forgot.... I restored the tree. — Mariah-Yulia • Talk to me! 21:15, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

T-84s

In October you added that Georgian Army has bought 12 T-84, there has been no articles since confirming this, and Konovaliuk has not provided any proof of his allegations. Also there is an article denying any sale to Georgia. http://www.kyivpost.com/news/nation/detail/52771/ I will remove all entries regarding Georgia buying T-84s since it's only an alleged sale, that even Georgians have not confirmed. Since you made the entries you might wish to remove them yourself, I will wait for you response before removing anything you added. Ceriy (talk) 16:58, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

Should have known better then then to trust this man I never heard of...... I remove all my entries I could find + 1 more. — Mariah-Yulia • Talk to me! 21:26, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

GA nomination of Yulia Tymoshenko

The GA nomination of Yulia Tymoshenko has been put on hold, awaiting improvements.[1] Offliner (talk) 04:17, 10 January 2010 (UTC)

Thanks; I'll see what I can do! — Mariah-Yulia • Talk to me! 17:03, 10 January 2010 (UTC)

Re: New Year's Greetings

File:NewYear2007.jpg

Дякую very much for the kind message! -Jwkozak91 (talk) 23:12, 10 January 2010 (UTC)

• Thanks from me also, nice tigers :) Ostap 01:21, 11 January 2010 (UTC)
• Wishing you the best year ever! USchick (talk) 03:34, 11 January 2010 (UTC)
• Thanks! Best wishes in the new year to you too.—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 14:30, January 11, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks all! The tigers are Tigeryulia’s parents ;) ! — Mariah-Yulia • Talk to me!, 11-01-2010

• I subscribe to the congratulations. Zalig Kerstfeest en een Gelukkig Nieukjaar! (hope I'm not too late? :-))--Microcell (talk) 18:51, 11 January 2010 (UTC)
• Hi and thanks for your greetings! Sorry I've not been involved with the Ukrainian articles very much - take it as a compliment because I know that they are in your good hands :) Anyway, all the best for 2010. Hope to see you around -- Timberframe (talk) 22:56, 13 January 2010 (UTC)

Serhiy Tihipko

Happy New Year !

I have just written the following text:

"He is an Ukrainian politician. His original name is Сергій Тiгiпко, which is written in Latin alphabet as Serhiy Tihipko (Ukrainian, Polish, Czech, Hungarian, German, English, etc.) or Sergei Tigipko (Russian form). Letter [г] means [h] in Ukrainian, and [g] in Russian. So, for example, Адольф Гітлер is pronounced as Adolf Hitler in Ukrainian, and Adolf Gitler in Russian.

By the way, Tihipko's first name is Сергій (Ukrainian Serhiy), not Сергей (Russian Sergey or Sergei).

See: Our Campaigns - Candidate - Serhiy Tihipko

"Trudova Ukraina" elects a new chairman - Serhiy Tihipko

Ukraine on the Eve of the January 2010 Presidential - Serhiy Tihipko

Rzeczpospolita - Serhij Tihipko

Tihipko: Ukrajna szenvedett a legtöbbet a válság miatt - Szerhij Tihipko

Die Welt -Schicksalstag für die Ukraine - Sergej Tihipko

The FINANCIAL - Tihipko Not Interested In NBU Governorship - Serhii Tihipko, etc.

So, it is a reason to change the name to Tihipko."

See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Sergei_Tigipko, please.

-- Warm regards, Mibelz (talk) 02:02, 19 January 2010 (CET)

Thanks, must admit that this has no high priority for me but is puzzling for me… A lot of people seem to be convinced that [г] should be pronounced [g] in Ukrainian, including Ruslana on her song Dykyy anhel. Or is it written in the Latin Alphabet as [h] but pronounced [g]? — Mariah-Yulia • Talk to me! 10:24, 19 January 2010 (UTC)

My experience is that the Ukrainian г is pronounced a little different depending on where in the word it's placed. In Tihipko's case it's a clear h-sound though. But I guess he himself usually speaks Russian, maybe because of his background in Moldova. Närking (talk) 20:29, 21 January 2010 (UTC)

Just a trivia comment. The Ukrainian alphabet is a very diverse one :) It also contains letter g, but it spells a bit differently than its Russian or Bulgarian counterparts and looks like this Ґ, ґ. Most of the speakers of the Russian language from Ukraine became so adapted with the Ukrainian culture that few of them pay attention to the correct pronunciation and most of them say the Tihipko's name the same way in both languages. The origin of the name is, of course, Ukrainian, if you ever studied the folklore and culture of that country. According to the transliteration rules adopted by the Verkhovna Rada his name correctly would be transliterated as Tyhypko. But spelling of his name as Tihipko looks much simpler, less confusing, and sustains the same pronunciation. By Russian way of transliteration it would be something of Teageepka. Aleksandr Grigoryev (talk) 02:01, 9 February 2010 (UTC)

Photos

Hi Can you download the official photos from t6his site. http://www.cvk.gov.ua/vp2010/wp320pt00_t001f01=700pt001f01=700pplace=1.html

They are not covered by copyright as it is for publication government we site.

The best thing is that they are all the same size and frontal.

Thanks Ukr-Trident (talk) 17:26, 19 January 2010 (UTC)

Must say it is not high up my priority list (if not very low)…. I’m also not sure if they are free of use on Wikipedia…. CEC seems not to have stated that specifically and some editors are very strict on that (especially at Wikipedia Commons). USA government/government institutions pictures are free of use. To my knowledge Ukraine has no such policy for picture/photo’s. — Mariah-Yulia • Talk to me! 14:15, 20 January 2010 (UTC)

The certainly are free and in the public domain. Copyright law odes not apply to public government information or electoral documentation. Next you will try and claim a policy speech is copyrighted or the Candidate profile Maybe Yushchenko can claim his agreement with Yanukovych is subject to copyright. All copyright was released when the candidate submitted their nomination Ukr-Trident (talk) 23:52, 21 January 2010 (UTC)

Ukrainian American photo

A nice photo, but two of the people, Leonard Nimoy and Michael Mann, probably don't belong there. They certainly do not self-identify as Ukrainians, nor are they of ethnic Ukrainian descent. Indeed, they would probably be shocked if they were included as "Ukrainian Americans." Thanks...Faustian (talk) 14:34, 20 January 2010 (UTC)

I think I once read an interview in which Mr. Nimoy did (but can't find/google it....), but in this one from last May he refers to his parents as "Russian immigrants" (but not as Jews), well they came from the Russian Empire... Mr. Mann does not seems to ever talk about his ancestry.... Not sure if they both would be shocked, as they are Americans they might even find it cute they are seen as Ukrainians (do not know there attitude toward ethnicity, but somehow I can't imagine they would be shocked). I do not see Jewishness as a ethnicity anyhow, but as a religion, so for me all Jews born in Ukraine are automaticly Ukrainians (just like all Ukrainian Catholics are not Vatican Citizens). No idea what the wiki-consensus is on this. — Mariah-Yulia • Talk to me! 23:04, 20 January 2010 (UTC)

Jews are an ethnic group as well as a religion. There are, for example, some Russian Orthodox Jews. In Ukraine prior to 1917 Jews generally identified themselves as Jews, or as Russians (the language they spoke), but not as Ukrainians. A rough analogy: if a Somali from the Netherlands who never learned Dutch moved to America, would his grandchildren be considered Dutch Americans? Another example: the article British Indian does not include Rudyard Kipling, who was born in Bombay. Another example" Albert Camus, rench writer and philosopher born in Algeria, is not listed as an [[Category:French people of Algerian descent|Algerian]]. Why don't you replace Nimoy with Milla Jovovich?Faustian (talk) 04:06, 21 January 2010 (UTC)

Hmmm. although non-ethnic Ukrainians are still citizens of Ukraine, the could have not been that without a Ukrainian state. I see that point. So maybe the 2 should get replaced with good alternatives. Doesn't Miss Jovovich usually call herself Russian? Mila Kunnis until recently did that always too... Has Miss Jovovich changed her mind too and now prefers to be called Ukrainian? Besides she is also Serbian and the wiki-article about her claims her mother was ethnic Russian (although some editors here think all Russian speakers are ethnic Russians and the people of Ireland are ethnic Irish although they only speak English…). And with Ms. Kunis we already have an actress in the picture (and Jovovich career looks dead… ). Just to set the record straight: Somali in Holland always learn Dutch (they even have to per law, but in my experience would have done it anyhow). — Mariah-Yulia • Talk to me! 10:35, 21 January 2010 (UTC)

If I may comment here, please get rid of Demjanjuk. The image of Heidemarie Stefanyshyn-Piper is in the public domain and I think she should replace Demjanjuk. Thanks for your consideration, Ostap 06:57, 21 January 2010 (UTC)

I’m sorry but this looks like whitewashing Ukraine’s WWII history. Ore are you suggesting he is not newsworthy/noticeable enough to be in the picture? Putting a WWII ‘’hero’’ in the picture would make a nice balance. — Mariah-Yulia • Talk to me! 10:35, 21 January 2010 (UTC)

I suggest to swap Leonard Nimoy (Mr. Mann did not call his parents Russians) with Heidemarie Stefanyshyn-Piper (per my arguments above). Although I still see all Jews born in Ukraine as Ukrainians and do see Mr. Nimoy as more noticeable. Anybody got a good replacement for Michael Mann (per my arguments above I do not see Milla Jovovich as a good replacement). — Mariah-Yulia • Talk to me! 10:35, 21 January 2010 (UTC)

Jovovich sang a Ukrainian folk song, in Ukrainian, on her CD. It was quite charming. Demjanjuk is famous enough that, unfortunately, he probably shouldn't be excluded.Faustian (talk) 18:19, 21 January 2010 (UTC)

Didn't know that... maybe she changed her mind about being Russian. — Mariah-Yulia • Talk to me! 20:26, 21 January 2010 (UTC)

How about Paula Dobriansky instead of Nimoy or Michael Mann?Faustian (talk) 18:21, 21 January 2010 (UTC)

Currently her article does not say anything about her roots, it needs to be expanded on this then... — Mariah-Yulia • Talk to me! 20:36, 21 January 2010 (UTC)

Here is the article about her father, Lev Dobriansky. Lev's obituary mentions his daughter Paula: [2].Faustian (talk) 03:08, 22 January 2010 (UTC)

There is no whitewashing. You don't see Stalin, Hitler, or plenty of other famous villains in these images, so why put Demjanjuk? Are you saying that Demjanjuk is a more noticeable Ukrainian American than Milosevic is a Serb or Himmler is a German? Ostap 19:53, 21 January 2010 (UTC)

I have to agree here also. We don't see Hitler among Austrians or Stalin among Georgians. I'm sure we can find better examples of Ukrainian Americans that have better merits than Demjanjuk. What do you say about Andy Warhol for example? Närking (talk) 20:19, 21 January 2010 (UTC)

Isn't Andy Warhol Rusyn? I think Jews are just as Ukrainian as Rusyns but if the people pre-1991 Ukrainian in the picture should be ethnic Ukrainian then Warhol can't be in it either. — Mariah-Yulia • Talk to me! 20:36, 21 January 2010 (UTC)

Its seems that Warhols mother was Rusyn and Warhol didn't self identify with Rusyns or Ukrainians. — Mariah-Yulia • Talk to me! 20:46, 21 January 2010 (UTC)

Yes, I know Warhol usually is said to be of Rusyn ancestry, but his mother is placed under the Ukrainian American category. And the family did come from Carpatho-Ukraine. Närking (talk) 20:52, 21 January 2010 (UTC)

Demjanjuk is probably the most famous Ukrainian American, although he is currently stateless. On Talk:Austrians Catgut claims "The more or less unspoken policy is to keep highly questionable people such as criminals and killers of the respective articles about certain ethnic groups." Not sure if this is true as on the talkpage itself 3 editers (2 of them Austrians) where against his picture on the page and 2 for (both non-Austrians). If there is consensus on getting him out of the picture I do not object against it although we would have a hard time finding a Ukrainian American just as famous as him.... I do think it is a sign of weakness of the Georgian editors to put Sopho Khalvashi (what is noticeable about her?) in there 16 people long picture and not Stalin... — Mariah-Yulia • Talk to me! 20:26, 21 January 2010 (UTC)

Candidates

First of all; since I am not interested in discussions about someone ethnicity and never was, the fact that have been engaged in 3 this week made me a bit cranky, I do apologise if my behaviour came across as WP:UNCIVIL.

Back to business! I guess we all agree that Leonard Nimoy and Michael Mann should be replaced. Nevertheless we seem not to be sure about Demjanjuk

The "remove" current candidates are:

• Leonard Nimoy
• Michael Mann
• John Demjanjuk

The "replacement" current candidates are:

• Milla Jovovich
• Heidemarie Stefanyshyn-Piper
• Paula Dobriansky (thanks for the extra information Faustian!)
• Andy Warhol

Place other "remove" or "replacement" here below my wiki-name if you disagree on the number of choices ore have/found other candidates.
— Mariah-Yulia • Talk to me! 18:51, 22 January 2010 (UTC)

John Hodiak, who refused to change his last name after being asked to do so by Louis B. Mayer.

Gayle Olinekova - she could be either Ukrainian Canadian or Ukrainian American - who wore a "Molson's UKRAINIAN" t-shirt while warming up before a track race at the 1972 Summer Olympics, annoying the Soviet athletes! (Source: Michael Czuboka, Ukrainian Canadian, Eh? : The Ukrainians of Canada and Elswhere As Percieved By Themselves And Others. Winnipeg, 1978 1983.). Jwkozak91 (talk) 19:23, 22 January 2010 (UTC)

WRT Gayle Olinekova - the "Molson's UKRAINIAN incident" probably happened at another international track meet in 1972 1973, at a special Canada vs. U.S.S.R. track meet (Czuboka 1983, p. 170). [Updated] Jwkozak91 (talk) 07:17, 23 January 2010 (UTC)

Erika Eleniak, born in southern California, had a Ukrainian Canadian father born in Edmonton. Ironically, Erika now lives in Edmonton's arch-rival municipality - Calgary! |-D Jwkozak91 (talk) 20:25, 22 January 2010 (UTC)

Mike Royko, Chicago newspaper columnist and "muckracking journalist". (However: he considered himself more Polish than Ukrainian, and someone's going to hafta look for a picture.) Jwkozak91 (talk) 20:52, 22 January 2010 (UTC)

Absolute final edit from me: Keith Tkachuk, ice hockey player born in Boston, Massachusetts. Jwkozak91 (talk) 10:49, 6 February 2010 (UTC)

Edward Dmytryk, who could be either Ukrainian Canadian or Ukrainian American ("naturalized American") - "ratted out" his fellow directors in testimony before the House Committee on Un-American Activities.

That should be all of my suggested candidates, as any others would probably fail the "noticeable/notable" test because they are most recognizable to those involved in Ukrainian diaspora culture (Pawlo Humeniuk, who influenced the Leeds, UK group "The Ukrainians") or diaspora news (Myron Kuropas, former Ford White House "East European diasporas czar" - current political columnist for The Ukrainian Weekly) - and not to "average Americans". Jwkozak91 (talk) 07:17, 23 January 2010 (UTC)

Votes

(Maybe to hasty but) I vote to replace Nimoy and Mann with Stefanyshyn-Piper and Dobriansky (as they are better examples of "Ukrainian Americans" then Jovovich and Warhol who do not seem to identify themself with the label "Ukrainian Americans" as much as Stefanyshyn-Piper and Dobriansky (who are also noticeable individuals), I think that unfortunately Demjanjuk fits to good into the category "Ukrainian American" to replace him with somebody. In a WP:Bold-move I choose to ignore "more or less unspoken policy to keep highly questionable people of the respective articles about certain ethnic groups". — Mariah-Yulia • Talk to me! 18:51, 22 January 2010 (UTC)

I retract my vote (in pure Soviet Union democracy style ) since the new candidates brought on the table by Jwkozak91 look very interesting! And other candidates might be introduced by other users. — Mariah-Yulia • Talk to me! 19:34, 22 January 2010 (UTC)

Against: Demjanjuk, Mann, Nimoy (aka. All). For: Stefanyshyn-Piper, Tkachuk, Dmytryk. Jwkozak91 (talk) 03:03, 9 February 2010 (UTC)

One of the most beautiful women in the world

Continued from Talk:Viktor Yanukovych/Archives/2012/February#Yanukovych is against woman in important positions?

Mrs Tymoshenko website used to boast it in 2007.

Her website does not have this boast any more. In 2007 it was possible to go back and look at photos of her over the years - making it clear that in the late 1990s she had dark hair, a long nose, and was not as young as beautiful as her recent photos would have you believe. The photos of her daughter's wedding were a hoot - she totally outshone her daughter. There used to be some wonderful wallpapers on her site in 2007 - she looked about 20 in the one of her on a motorcycle - and no it was not an old photo.

There used to be an advertisement on Ukrainian TV, where a middle-aged woman used the cosmetics being advertised, and her 20 year old daughter's boyfriend comes to the apartment carrying flowers, meets the middle-aged woman and gives her the flowers, leaving the daughter unhappy.--Toddy1 (talk) 21:44, 24 January 2010 (UTC)

Renaming

Template talk:Capitals of Ukraine --TarzanASG (talk) 14:33, 26 January 2010 (UTC)

Ukrainian 3D waving flag

Hi, is their anyway we can put the Ukrainian 3D animated flag back on Wikipedia, without getting it deleted after a period? A.h. king • Talk to me! 21:56, 30 January 2010 (UTC)

Made my own with photoshop (see here how ) and uploaded it on commons, see what happens. — Mariah-Yulia • Talk to me! 19:46, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

Thanks alot A.h. king • Talk to me! 20:12, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

File:Anastasia Baburova.jpg

Hello! I'm an italian wiki user and i translate in my native language Anastasia Baburova's page. Now i have a question for you: can you help me about migration of "Anastasia Baburova.jpg" that you load? Is it possible have this image in a free-use version? Thank you

Delfo (talk) 01:56, 7 February 2010 (UTC)

Viktor Yanukovych

Can you please specify exactly what you meant by that? Some of the stuff that I edited might way too excessive if that what you meant. But the fact that the Prosecutor General of Ukraine openly covers him, it is a matter of state security and should be approached and analyzed carefully. Aleksandr Grigoryev (talk) 01:40, 9 February 2010 (UTC)

You added "His other public errors were claims of Anton Chekhov to be the Ukrainian poet while on the air of the tele-radio company "Krym" on January 29, 2010, confusing Ostap Bender with Stepan Bandera, and others" at the end of the "Cultural and political image" while for consistency it should be placed at the beginning... Your tone of editing in the article does not seem to have a Neutral point of view tone. — Mariah-Yulia • Talk to me! 08:40, 10 February 2010 (UTC)

Agree as charged. It simply amazes me to this day of how things are being done in my country. Aleksandr Grigoryev (talk) 12:49, 17 March 2010 (UTC)

Ukrainian election ITN

Thanks, I don't know how I managed to get that confused, I have changed it to "with members of runner-up Yulia Tymoshenko's party contesting the result", hope that is better. Cheers - Dumelow (talk) 12:27, 10 February 2010 (UTC)

Thanks, that looks pretty neutral. — Mariah-Yulia • Talk to me! 12:31, 10 February 2010 (UTC)

Olympic Games

Hi, I would like if you would support Ukraine at the 2010 Winter Olympics by adding this userbox to your user page. A.h. king • Talk to me! 17:11, 13 February 2010 (UTC)

This user supports Ukraine at the 2010 Winter Olympics.

Thanks I will, thanks for making the userbox ! Did you know there is a "hidden" Ukrainian participant in the Olympics in the form of skater Lucas Makowsky ? — Mariah-Yulia • Talk to me! 21:37, 13 February 2010 (UTC)

Oh really, thanks for telling me . A.h. king • Talk to me! 09:10, 14 February 2010 (UTC)

What? Where did you get that? Lucas Makowsky seems more of a Polish name. Are you sure? Aleksandr Grigoryev (talk) 12:47, 17 March 2010 (UTC)

Wikipedia E-mail

Hi, I sent you an e-mail message. Hope you can reply as soon as possible with an e-mail message to me A.h. king • Talk to me! 17:36, 14 February 2010 (UTC)

Hi

Hi, how are you, haven't talked to you lately... Hope everything is fine P.S. How can we solve the issue of the waving Ukrainian flag? A.h. king • Talk to me! 18:19, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

Everything is fine, thank you! Interesting waving flag I made I have been banned because of it.... I have asked to administrator to unblock me and restore the flag also cause clearly I should not get banned for uploading a file I released under free license myself... — Mariah-Yulia • Talk to me! 19:32, 25 February 2010 (UTC)

I just sent you an offline message, and thanks for replying to the old one A.h. king • Talk to me! 10:07, 26 February 2010 (UTC)

No problem and thanks too, since I have to spend so much time behind a computer off-wiki I am not as fast in responding as I used to be… — Mariah-Yulia • Talk to me! 10:15, 26 February 2010 (UTC)

Talk:Arseniy Yatsenyuk

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Award

Thank you very much. I didn't think I was doing anything noteworthy. Aquila89 (talk) 15:35, 26 February 2010 (UTC)

List of Ukrainian rulers

Hello! Would you be so kind to tell me how strong is an influence of the anti-Semitic Slavophiles and the Soviet propaganda on the Ukrainian history in modern Ukraine? I have just turned over the list of Khazar rulers and Varangian names into List of Ukrainian rulers. -- All the best to you, Mibelz (talk) 21:01, 28 February 2010 (UTC)

It is simple. Look at that list. Does it not clearly portray that? That list is a complete non-sense. You can pile up all kinds of stuff there. Aleksandr Grigoryev (talk) 12:43, 17 March 2010 (UTC)

New Ukrainian election bloc with former OU-PSD members?

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The G in Grytsenko

The following is an image of a specimen passport that someone has put in Commons. Note that the letter Г is transliterated as G. Sorry the picture has to be so big, but you can't read it small.--Toddy1 (talk) 05:21, 11 March 2010 (UTC) File:Ukraine passport travel abroad.jpg

I see, but I also see that this passport was isued in Russian speaking Mykolaiv. A passport issued in Lviv might translate it as "Hrytsenko" I think. I have seen different spellings in Latin alphabet of Ukrainian given names.... I do not mind if people spell there names in a Russian way though, as long as nobody's tries to wipe out a langauge — Mariah-Yulia • Talk to me! 09:48, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

But the point is that the Ukrainian government accepts that Г is transliterated as G in some words.--Toddy1 (talk) 19:44, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

I see . As a member of a "Latin alphabet"-zone it is still wierd to me that Г can be transliterated in different way's. But what the hell; I just say what the hell and way not . — Mariah-Yulia • Talk to me! 10:53, 12 March 2010 (UTC)

I know, right? :) Simply still a lot of people that even issue the Ukrainian passports do not know not only the laws of their country, but their alphabet as well. For Г the closest equivalent in English would be H and for Ґ - G. It is that simple. Russians do not have equivalent letter for H, while people that are from southern Ukraine they pronounce their G's in Russian incorrectly as H's, which is considered to be a sort of southern accent. That is pretty much the main reason for confusion. Aleksandr Grigoryev (talk) 12:36, 17 March 2010 (UTC)

It might be a similar case with the Russian Ё which Russians simply write as e. Simple is better. Aleksandr Grigoryev (talk) 12:39, 17 March 2010 (UTC)

The issue also works in both directions. So "hamburger" goes into Ukrainian/Russian as гамбургер with both "h" and "g" coming across as г versus "house" as хаус. There's just confusion all the way round no matter what the "official" transliteration prescribes. It is not an exact science. When I got my Ukrainian visa, they transliterated my name ("McLaughlin") as Маклафлін. Sometimes phonetics works, sometimes it doesn't. (Taivo (talk) 05:20, 4 April 2010 (UTC))

• Thought I'd chime in and add some more fuel to this. Check out this picture. It's of Ukrainian hockey player Roman Hryschenko...but notice the back of the jersey? Gryschenko! And that's for the Ukrainian national team, and I would assume the jerseys are ordered and handed out by the Ukrainian ice hockey federation.....I really wish Ґ was used more often so we would have a definite answer on when to use what! --Львівське (talk) 00:49, 11 April 2010 (UTC)

Orange children of the Third Reich

Have you seen this Russian "documentary" that was aired on February 3 on Pervy Kanal? [3] In it they examine the war record of Yushchenko's father, who as a Soviet army prisoner in German concentration camps was liberated from Flossenburg camp by the US army together with John Demjanjuk. They also suggest that the fact that he reportedly developed a taste for coffee in the camp meant he had collaborated with the Germans! [4] Am I surprised? Sadly no. Närking (talk) 19:28, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

Pervy Kanal is famous for their racial anti-Ukrainian statements. Go on youtube and look for politics in Ukraine. You will find all kinds of garbage. But its really nothing comparing to the site called GULAG with a photo-camera by Melnikoff. Aleksandr Grigoryev (talk) 12:26, 17 March 2010 (UTC)

Nationalist Fervor

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Azarov Government

Coalition agreement and the list of deputies. Ukrainska Pravda. (March 16, 2010) You can probably use google translate or im translate. The article gives full names of all deputies that joined the coalition. Out ones that represent any blocs or parties I only listed the most notable. Aleksandr Grigoryev (talk) 12:19, 17 March 2010 (UTC)

Thanks ! Should have geussed it was there (Ukrainska Pravda)... — Mariah-Yulia • Talk to me! 12:26, 17 March 2010 (UTC)

Thanks

Воистину воскрес! (Thanks to my wife for writing that for me.) (Taivo (talk) 16:25, 3 April 2010 (UTC))

Thanks

HAPPY EASTER!!! Hope the resurrection of Christ will bring peace to our world . A.h. king • Talk to me! 17:48, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

By the way don't you get an Easter vacation to relax from all that work? A.h. king • Talk to me! 04:05, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

Happy Easter!

Blessings to you, Christ has arisen! :) Aleksandr Grigoryev (talk) 18:16, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

Thanks!

Glad Påsk! Närking (talk) 19:48, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

Easter, Happy Easter

Dear Mariah-Yulia! Thank you very, very much for your such a nice wishes - and a vice versa. My answer is just a little bit late due to my absence at home last week. All the best to you! http://www.cracoviadanza.pl/index.php?d=wydarzenia&n=124&rok=2010 Mibelz (talk) 20:10, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

Ukrainian naming

I'd welcome any comments you might have about User talk:Taivo/Ukrainian names. (Taivo (talk) 19:35, 4 April 2010 (UTC))

Lets merge!!

Listen, there is a fine line between a political party that can be elected to the parliament and a civil movement. As an example, in Ukraine a politician cannot represent two parties, so some organize a civil movements to build up an electorate for the next parliamentary elections as in case with Yatseniuk. There also a civil movement For Ukraine headed by Vyacheslav Kyrylenko who is a Verkhovna Rada deputy. If For Ukraine would be registered as a political party, then in order for Kyrylenko to become its leader he needs to surrender his deputy mandate. If it is a civil movement then it is OK. People's Self-Defense was organized as a civil movement which was joined by a political party Forward, Ukraine!. Recently Forward Ukraine! and Christian-Democratic Union reorganized into the electoral block Yuriy's Lutsenko People's Self-Defense, while Lutsenko was talking about discontinue the civil movement as an organization. Aleksandr Grigoryev (talk) 01:29, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

OK, first of all where did you saw the fact that Forward Ukraine renamed itself? That cannot have taken place as they were listed one of the parties in the Our Ukraine coalition. Please, read article on the People's Self-Defense of Yuriy Lutsenko. The following is a historical background taken right from the same website that is for vpered.com.ua. I put it through the Google Translate. Please note that google does not provide a good translation of a whole article therefore please see what I edited to the wikipedia article about the electoral bloc.

"Defense"

Electoral Bloc "People's Self-Defense Yuriy Lutsenko was established April 13, 2007 on the basis of two games with a deep political experience -" Forward, Ukraine! "And" Christian Democratic Union. Also, members of the unit in partnership became the Civil Movement "People's Self-Defense, headed by Yuriy Lutsenko.

Party "Forward, Ukraine!" Established February 6, 1999, May 13, registered at the Ministry of Justice. May 22, 1999 the first congress of political party "Forward, Ukraine!".
In the 2002 parliamentary elections the party in the election of Viktor Yushchenko bloc "Our Ukraine" entered the Parliament of the fourth convocation.
In the 2006 parliamentary elections the party "Forward, Ukraine!" Was alone, but has the required number of votes.
In April 2007, at the Unity Congress "Forward, Ukraine!" And "Christian Democratic Union was the decision to create an electoral bloc for the early parliamentary elections to be held on 30 September 2007.
Party "Christian Democratic Union was established on 8 February 1997 in Kiev as Christian People's Union.
VI in 2003 was an extraordinary congress at which the consignment joined representatives of other Christian democratic parties direction, namely HDPU, UHDP and Voh. Congress delegates decided to change the name of the party Christian Democratic Union.
Party since 1998, takes part in parliamentary and presidential elections.
Since 2001, the CDU - active member of "Our Ukraine". In the elections of 2002 became a parliamentary party.
Civil Movement "People's Self-Defense was formed in January 2007. Initiator and leader Yuriy Lutsenko was at the time, ex-Minister of Internal Affairs of Ukraine. January 23 this year, Yuri Lutsenko, Ukraine began to tour areas of movement to present and talk about its goals and objectives, the main of which was and is fighting corruption at all levels.

Principles of the People's Self Defense

1. Do not steal and do not let others steal.

2. Do not lie and do not let lie.

3. Do not take and give bribes.

4. Do not be afraid to fight for their rights.

5. Love Ukraine.

The task of the People's Self Defense:

1. Reach the heart of every Ukrainian.

2. Unite the Ukrainian community.

3. Combine all patriotic forces.

4. Build a just state.

5. Achieve unity of Ukraine.

Our protest will be peaceful and righteous. But we clearly and firmly say what we want this power. We want to live with dignity in a wealthy country. We want truth and justice. And they have heard us, or leave. We will win!

Our allies and enemies

Our allies - are honest and care about people: members of different parties and non-party, believers of different faiths and atheists, people who speak the truth in any language.

Our attitude to political parties and state institutions are not based on their colors and slogans, but only - by their actions. If they act in accordance with our principles-they are allies of the People's Self-Defense.

If not - we judge Ukraine.

I apologize for taken up so much space. However I intent simply to explain you that People's Self-Defense is not a party, but rather a collection of parties or an electoral bloc. I specifically created the two similar entity, yet different in their organization the civil movement and the electoral bloc to clarify a misconception. Some people put the Chernovetsky bloc as one of the minor parties with Christian-Democratic Union within it when the last one was missing from the list of parliamentary parties. Chernovetsky bloc is a small regional party that is not even worth of mentioning, CD Union is a long-standing All-Ukrainian real political party that is in a coalition with Forward Ukraine as the People's Self-Defense. Does that make any sense? Aleksandr Grigoryev (talk) 20:19, 21 April 2010 (UTC)

Ukrainian given names

I dont know who else to ask to where else to go, so I thought I'd ask you since you know your stuff (: What are the most common spellings for Ukrainian first names in English/Wikipedia, ex:

• Yuri or Yury or Yuriy?
• Andri or Andry or Andriy? or Andrij?
• Dimitro or Dymytro?
• Vadim or Vadym?
• Oleh or Oleg?
• Ihor or Ehor?
• Denis or Denys?

I understand all follow different transliteration methods, but I'm converting a lot of names and want to keep things consistent, especially since they dont have WP:COMMONUSE since they arent famous.--Львівське (talk) 19:40, 17 April 2010 (UTC)

Interesting question but I've got no idea... I think you better ask Toddy1 he has an interest in these things... — Mariah-Yulia • Talk to me! 08:54, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

Just thought I'd drop my two cents in on this one. Many of those spellings are more or less common, except the fact that Ihor (Russian Igor) and Ehor (Russian Egor) are two completely different names. Also, I don't think there are spellings like Dimitro or Dymytro. The correct variants would be the Ukrainianised Dmytro or Russianised Dmitry. Garik 11 (talk) 10:25, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

It surely would be a good idea to standardise the names since right now we surely have many different spellings in the articles. We have Andriy but often Yurii, which isn't logical. I think we should have either Andrii and Yurii or Andriy and Yuriy. The same goes with Serhii/Serhiy. The Ukrainians I know usually writes Yurii and Serhii.

The easier ones are Dmytro, Vadym and Denys. Närking (talk) 11:01, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

I think the 'iy suffix is better, plus complies with National variant of romanization which is used for cities. I know a Serhiy as well (that spelling). I do think a standardization of given names would be a good idea, given how there are so many variants coming form the same UKR spelling. Forgive the mistakes I made above, I was just generalizing and throwing some names off the top of my head up.--Львівське (talk) 12:39, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

Well, it might look better, but if we follow the latest Ukrainian transliteration[5] it would be Yurii. Й becomes an Y only at the beginning of words. In other positions it will be an i. Närking (talk) 18:05, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

Interesting, they even provide some given names there, should we consider this the "proper" way to spell them in English? IMO, it would be nice if they simplified ii to just i, I'm used to seeing Yuri, not Yurii...--Львівське (talk) 19:50, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

Mabey better to keep in central here. I'll ask Tobby to answer here. — Mariah-Yulia • Talk to me! 12:09, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

Why is there a need to standardise? We must remember that it is not the role of Wikipedia to set standards to the outside world - Wikipedia should follow the outside world.

Ukraine is a country of two main languages: Ukrainian and Russian, and two other significant languages: Tartar and Yiddish. Because of this, the appropriate transliteration will be different for different people. Let me give two examples:

• Ахметов Ринат is rendered Rinat Akhmetov - this is fair enough because I think that is the common use in the West. But a person from his native Donetsk would write his first name in English 'Renat'. He is a Tatar, and in the Tatar language his first name is Ренат.
• Богословская Инна Германовна spells her name in English Inna Hermanivna Bogoslovska. Notice that the 'г' in Богословская is a 'g', but the same letter in Германовна is an 'h'. Wikipedia calls her 'Inna Bohoslovska' - which is a more common transliteration of her name in the West.

--Toddy1 (talk) 19:02, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

I agree with Toddy1. Wikipedia must reflect common English usage where it exists, but when it doesn't exist, then it must be sensitive to the native language of the named person--Ukrainian, Russian, Yiddish, Tatar, Hungarian, and even Rusyn. All have clearly distinct spellings for names and it's important to be sensitive to those differing conventions. The century in which a person was born can also make a difference, especially in western Ukraine since you also have to deal with Polish names. (Taivo (talk) 19:13, 19 April 2010 (UTC))

Yes, of course if it's a Russian name it should be in Russian. The question was about Ukrainian first names with no common use. Närking (talk) 19:21, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

Emphasis on what Narking said...--Львівське (talk) 04:52, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

Does the name Ihnat exist in Ukraine? Or would Ignat be the proper translit? It doesn't seem to be very popular, would this be a case where Ge (ґ) is used? --Львівське (talk) 17:21, 22 April 2010 (UTC)

I don't recall ever seeing Ґ used when I was living in country. Of course, it would be useful to use, but it seems to be one of those issues like Russian Ё--no one ever puts the dots there even though they'd be useful for non-native speakers. (Taivo (talk) 17:40, 22 April 2010 (UTC))

The Ukrainian form of Russian Ignat is Hnat. But I guess very few Ukrainians have that name today. One example is Hnat Khotkevych. Närking (talk) 18:55, 22 April 2010 (UTC)

Ignat (Ihnat) is a Ukrainian name as well. This may also be proved by the fact that there is a Ukrainian surname Ignatenko which means "son of Ignat". This name is also more or less common among Russians, although I think they prefer yet another slightly different form Ignatiy. Garik 11 (talk) 19:00, 22 April 2010 (UTC)

We have the surenames Hnatenko and Hnatevych as well.[6]. Närking (talk) 19:08, 22 April 2010 (UTC)

So it just goes to show that both Ihnat (Ignat) and Hnat (Gnat) are Ukrainian names. Garik 11 (talk) 19:34, 22 April 2010 (UTC)

I'd like to address user Lvivske here since this user page is where the discussion is mostly going on. Your efforts in renaming hockey players and other people seem to wreak more confusion than anything else and contradict Wikipedia policies. You should not invent new spellings of their names but instead use those that are more common in English language sources. Yet you rename the same articles over and over again, like Sergey Gayduchenko / Sergei Gaiduchenko / Serhii Haiduchenko on the basis of whichever you find correct, while the most common variant of the name from reliable sources should be used. Google yields zero results for "Serhii Haiduchenko" except your Wiki article but hundreds of results for "Sergey Gayduchenko" from reliable sources like [7], [8], [9]. Please bear in mind that Wikipedia must not offer original research or ideas but use existing data from reliable sources. Garik 11 (talk) 21:57, 22 April 2010 (UTC)

It's a work in process, and for players where a direct consensus doesn't exist....I'm going by official transliteration and providing the alternate version in the lead as well.--Львівське (talk) 01:04, 23 April 2010 (UTC)

No, what you're doing is wrong! You still don't understand the rules. Garik 11 (talk) 14:11, 23 April 2010 (UTC)

• So what's the verdict? What suffix should I use? "ii" or "iy"? IY seems to be the most popular on wikipedia, so does that constitute common use? Or do we go with the official transliteration (II)? Think maybe we can get a vote going among all those interested in the topic to form some precedent on what to use when no english common use exists for a name and translation is needed?--Львівське (talk) 06:34, 23 April 2010 (UTC)

for the second, andriy outnumbers andrii on google by 1.2m to 200k, or 1240 to 60 on english wikipedia. Serhiy is roughly the same, 1.5m google to 0.5m. Trend continues for Yuriy, and so on. Does this contitute enough common use to decide what variant should be used when writing a ukrainian name in enlgish?--Львівське (talk) 06:41, 23 April 2010 (UTC)

Use search engines for any particular name of any particlular person (not the name Serhii in general) in English and use in the article title the one more commonly used (e.g. Sergey Gayduchenko). Garik 11 (talk) 14:16, 23 April 2010 (UTC)

That's neither here nor there. Stay on topic.--Львівське (talk) 14:42, 23 April 2010 (UTC)

Actually, Lvivske, that is the topic--it doesn't matter a hill of beans whether you want to transliterate it as Serhii or Serhiy, if an individual is known to the sport or world or whatever as Sergiy, you have no right to change the English spelling of his name to conform to your "rules". We follow Wikipedia's rules for naming which state that whatever a person is already known as is what we call him despite what you think it should be. (01:11, 24 April 2010 (UTC))

If a person isn't known in the english language world, one misguided database listing or message board post doesn't constitute a common usage. Also, WPHockey has already overruled common use in favor of factual spelling, so it IS a decision that needs to be made on my part.

Again, my question is strictly IF A PERSON IS NOT KNOWN, what do we translit the name to from Ukrainian, -II or -IY?--Львівське (talk) 18:59, 24 April 2010 (UTC)

Re: New Flag

Thanks so much for informing me . A.h. king • Talk to me! 12:53, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

Your welcome! — Mariah-Yulia • Talk to me! 14:16, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

Black Sea Fleet

Is the extension agreement going to be ratified by the Ukrainian Parliament? Does it actually violate the constitution of Ukraine? Would appreciate your input. Cheers and thanks Buckshot06 (talk) 02:57, 24 April 2010 (UTC)

Hi, sorry I know this is not my talk page but I would like to answer you. No, the extension agreement does not violate the Constitution of Ukraine, because the constitution of Ukraine states that Ukraine can hold military bases on a lease status, as Russia pays Ukraine for this military base; Ukraine cannot hold military bases for free. A.h. king • Talk to me! 18:08, 27 April 2010 (UTC)

From what I read the constitution is not clear on this and contradicts itself on this matter. — Mariah-Yulia • Talk to me! 08:13, 29 April 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for that. Are NATO PfP exercises going ahead under Yanakovich? Buckshot06 (talk) 09:11, 29 April 2010 (UTC)

Yes, Ukraine is planning to continue to develop cooperation with NATO. — Mariah-Yulia • Talk to me! 09:17, 29 April 2010 (UTC)

And while we're at it, who did Yanakovich commit assault against? For what reasons? The crimes section in his article is incomplete. Buckshot06 (talk) 09:13, 29 April 2010 (UTC)

Can not the precies information. I guess he hit some people during a robery. — Mariah-Yulia • Talk to me! 09:28, 29 April 2010 (UTC)

Mariya Dolina

Hello, I see that we share a common interest for Dolina. I am doing a research about Soviet airwomen, by chance, do You know something about Mariya Smirnova and Natal'ya Meklin, I mean: what are they doing or if they left this valley of tears?

greetings From Rome --Gian piero milanetti (talk) 07:33, 24 April 2010 (UTC)

I'm sorry. I can not be of much help. I do think these woman are interesting but I can not find the time to do research on them. In general I am more interested in what is happening now in Ukraine then in what happened to Soviet woman in WWII. — Mariah-Yulia • Talk to me! 08:20, 29 April 2010 (UTC)

Chaos in Ukraine's parliament

Please, can you halp me in expanding article: Chaos in the Ukrainian parliament during a debate over the extension of the lease on a Russian naval base 2010 before it is deleted? Pleckaitis (talk) 10:39, 27 April 2010 (UTC)

I see this incidents as to minor to have a stand alone article. — Mariah-Yulia • Talk to me! 08:29, 29 April 2010 (UTC)

Marya Dolina

Priviet, Balshoye cpacciba, I do understand your position, meanwhile I found a site about Soviet heroes with enough news about the livesw and deaths of those outstanding women... da-svidanya!! --Gian piero milanetti (talk) 20:26, 30 April 2010 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for the Barnstar Maria, glad someone is reading the Chukotka articles I am creating! Fenix down (talk) 12:18, 3 May 2010 (UTC)

Re: Territorial nationalism

You're welcome! I wasn't exactly sure if the image fit the section, but apparently it did. Cheers. Pikolas (talk) 16:23, 3 May 2010 (UTC)

Ukraina Barnstar

Blshoe Cpacciba for the barnstar... and I did so little!! In en wiki I made hundreds of contributs abaut aviations and I collected only criticisms! Da skorogo!! --Gian piero milanetti (talk) 19:17, 3 May 2010 (UTC)

Ukrainian language

Not quite sure this was an appropriate response to what is obviously trolling on the talk page. Neither Lebed nor Yavlinsky are linguists, so their opinion is hardly something worth mentioning in an article dealing with a language. Now, if there are any prominent linguists who claim that Ukrainian is just a dialect, that would be a different matter entirely. Opinions of politicians are just politicking. Anyhoo, I'm leaving this to you and WP:UKRAINE to deal with. Cheers,—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); May 4, 2010; 13:16 (UTC)

I think Taivo solved the problem, placing the info in the lead mabey was a bit over the top... Happy May 9 and May days! — Mariah-Yulia • Talk to me! 15:14, 4 May 2010 (UTC)

DYK for FEMEN

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RE:Made this new userbox, feel free to add it to your userpage!

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Thanks! We celebrate this on May 5. Fortunately Dutch WWII resistance is not controversially. — Mariah-Yulia • Talk to me! 09:38, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

Re: People's Committee to Protect Ukraine

Thanks for the info, I think (with no offense) that this committee is an exact replica of the Ukraine without Kuchma committee. But thanks for the interest in creating the article . A.h. king • Talk to me! 15:01, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, I know, thanks. I am following on the developments. There are not much information is available in my opinion. There are also some parallel events that are taking place that might eventually culminate in something bigger. Tymoshenko apparently filed an impeachment process into Verkhovna Rada just recently according to the Ukrainian Pravda. And the relationship with the Russian Federation are getting too friendly to the point of near intimacy when some agreements between the governments of both countries are done without any public announcements. That is pretty cool of you posting such an article on the web so early. I think that article should be connected to Verkhovna Rada as the whole coalition is staging to be reformed for the next parliamentary elections. Aleksandr Grigoryev (talk) 15:05, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

I heard about the impeachment process, but let us see what this will effect Ukraine's political situation. A.h. king • Talk to me! 15:13, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

Thanks Aleksandr & A.h. ! I also had the idea that this new Committee is a "Ukraine without Kuchma" clone. Bit early to say if it will reshape the political landscape. Tymoshenko's impeachment attempt seems to young to already publish on wikipedia.
P.S. I saw Mykhaylo Brodskyy in a restaurant yesterday, he can speak few words in Dutch! — Mariah-Yulia • Talk to me! 17:00, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

Minor correction :)

Don't you think that the caption there should rightly read: "Current President of Russia and Ukraine meeting ex-President of Ukraine in Crimea"? Garik 11 (talk) 10:06, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

File:Navy.gif ! — Mariah-Yulia • Talk to me! 13:49, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

The picture and caption look fine to me. /sarcasm - Jwkozak91 (talk) 20:55, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

Many analysts agree that Kuchma was much wiser a bastard president than Yanukovich. Although flirting with Russia and its "post-colonial ambitions" he still managed to steer Ukraine more towards West (or independence as some might call it). So the analogy Kuchma/Yanukovich is not exactly correct. On the other hand, many agree that Putin hasn't even stopped being the de facto president of Russia and now he is feeling more and more at home in Ukraine as well. Garik 11 (talk) 07:39, 15 May 2010 (UTC)

Minor correction on user page

I see that you have on your user page an image of Putin and Kuchma, and you wrote under it: "current presidents...". Is that just a mistype or this sentence has a symbolic meaning? A.h. king • Talk to me! 20:37, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

It's a political protest, sir. - Jwkozak91 (talk) 20:53, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

Oh OK, nice way to support your political view (even though we have totally different political views); I just liked the way to expressed your view . A.h. king • Talk to me! 20:58, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

I did not mean it as a "political protest". But as satire File:Navy.gif. I is a big fan of satire . It is a bit to early to say if Yanu and Kuchma have identical policies anyhow (would be surprised if Kuchma has any influence), although I do think that Medvedev has not changed Russia much since his election. Since I was not interested in Eastern Europe before I saw this beautiful woman on TV I am not even fully aware of how Kuchma presidency was... — Mariah-Yulia • Talk to me! 21:59, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

Sorry to intrude in the discussion here but I just have to add a link to this cartoon that is right on the spot! [10]. Närking (talk) 22:33, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

Re:On-line

Hey, good luck at your University. My wedding is after 2 weeks, so I'm also busy with my job and the preparations... Hope to talk to you soon . A.h. king • Talk to me! 15:52, 15 May 2010 (UTC)

Hello gang! New userbox for all you who are not "brain dead diaspora fascists"!

Since recently I have been called a "brain dead diaspora fascist" on Kyiv Post I have made and added this new userbox on my userpage to show my NPOV in UPA and SU subjects. Of course feel free to add it to your own. — Mariah-Yulia • Talk to me! 20:36, 15 May 2010 (UTC)

This user does not idolise Stepan Bandera nor Stalin

I love it (and have placed it on my own user page). I didn't see that quote in Kyiv Post, but it sounds like something a member of the current government might say :p (Taivo (talk) 21:40, 15 May 2010 (UTC))

You could create another one with Petliura and Lenin, as Petliura was accused of committing pogroms during the War of Independence. — Jwkozak91 (talk) 02:26, 16 May 2010 (UTC)

Yes, that one would be good, too. I lived near the bust of Petliura when I lived in Rivne and got off the marshrutka at the statue of Lenin in my wife's hometown of Dnipropetrovsk. Bookends. (Taivo (talk) 05:24, 16 May 2010 (UTC))

Well Petliura and Lenin do not seem to be sensitive teeth in the Ukrainian society, so I will not bother. Do not know enough about them to have an opinion on them anyhow. But both seem a lot more interested in creating a better Ukraine for all then Bandera an Stalin. Feel free to copy the framework of this one for a userbox of yourself ! — Mariah-Yulia • Talk to me! 11:49, 17 May 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for the info about the userbox . A.h. king • Talk to me! 11:22, 16 May 2010 (UTC)

No problem ! — Mariah-Yulia • Talk to me! 11:49, 17 May 2010 (UTC)

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Hi, it's me you are talking now on Facebook chat . A.h. king • Talk to me! 14:30, 18 May 2010 (UTC)

I see, better safe than sorry. Thanks for the (facebook) picture compliment . — Mariah-Yulia • Talk to me! 14:48, 18 May 2010

In case user Narking is wondering; I have asked him too to become friends on facebook . — Mariah-Yulia • Talk to me! 14:50, 18 May 2010

I really liked the Facebook profile picture, because I liked that you are wearing a Tymoshenko shirt, and a Tymoshenko ad in the background . Although I do not support her, but nice picture . A.h. king • Talk to me! 17:59, 18 May 2010

Thanks! I'm sure you will support her soon File:Smiley-Dancing.gif! — Mariah-Yulia • Talk to me! 21:51, 18 May 2010 (UTC)

Nah, I'm not going to stop my support of Party of Regions . But I totally respect your political views . A.h. king • Talk to me! 12:52, 19 May 2010 (UTC)

DYK for People's Committee to Protect Ukraine

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PINE WREATH STRUGGLE

An incident with the pine wreath occurred that stirred numerous blog-posts and news during the Medvedev's visit to Kyiv on May 17. Initially denied by the Presidential Administration the accident was later widely ridiculed for several days. Live is wonderful (in Ukrainian) Aleksandr Grigoryev (talk) 14:24, 19 May 2010 (UTC)

Plurality voting system talk page

Hi I too am not overly sure about voting systems, but after reading the article in your link I am unsure how you came to the conclusion that Majority Representation System is the same as Plurality Voting System. I would suggest that you put a Helpme tag on your talk page and explain your question about whether the redirect is correct. This will more than likely get you more help with the matter than posting it on the articles talk page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tomdresser27 (talk • contribs) 09:07, 25 May 2010 (UTC)

Done. Thanx. — Mariah-Yulia • Talk to me! 10:17, 25 May 2010 (UTC)

I made a correct "voting" redirect?

{{helpme}} I made Majority representation system redirect to Plurality voting system based on this article. Did I get it right? In general and related to the content in that article? I is not an expert on voting systems... — Mariah-Yulia • Talk to me! 10:16, 25 May 2010 (UTC)

yep the redirect works :) Sophie ^(Talk) 14:15, 25 May 2010 (UTC)

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DYK issue

Hello! Your submission of Valeriy Khoroshkovsky at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Crum375 (talk) 03:38, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

OK! — Mariah-Yulia • Talk to me! 15:35, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

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Re:Anatoliy Tymunschik

The main reason this article failed was that there was a template that stated that the intorduction was too short. This is part of Wikipedia:Reviewing good articles and the first things to look for. Because of the cleanup banner listed, this article was quick-failed. Chris (talk) 14:09, 24 June 2010 (UTC)

Ukrainian Cyrillic

Thanks for writing the Vadim Rabinovich article. I could not help to notice that you included the Russian Cyrillic version of his name in the article but not the Ukrainian Cyrillic version of his name (thus creating not an accurate article). Please do so in future articles. Since Ukrainian is the only official language of/in Ukraine. — Mariah-Yulia • Talk to me! 00:27, 26 June 2010 (UTC)

For god sake the Georgy Voronoy Ukrainian Cyrillic version of his name you could have copy-pasted from the Ukrainian wikipedia article... Are you on some sort of sick mission trying to show the world that Ukrainians who are good at maths are actually Russians because Ukrainian is a Russian dialect (thus Ukrainian never existed in Ukraine) and all Ukrainians are semi-Russians? Please be more accurate in future. Ukrainian, Ukrainians and Ukraine deserves a lot more respect then you are showing it...

Also keep in mind that in English wikipedia we use "Kharkiv" not "Kharkov" (to reflect common English usage & for consistency within this article and with the one on Kharkiv). — Mariah-Yulia • Talk to me! 01:22, 26 June 2010 (UTC)

Your language is offensive and unproductive enough so I will refrain to answering on substance. Please review WP:NPA before writing anything offensive on my talk page. I have been editing WP long enough to know how to complain to stop future abuse. Cheers. Mhym (talk) 01:42, 26 June 2010 (UTC)

You are not answering my questions and actually running away from them. I am sorry I have looked harsh. But wouldn't you be if you felt somebody was trying to whipe out a language? — Mariah-Yulia • Talk to me! 01:47, 26 June 2010 (UTC)

I should have made myself clearer. I do not and will not have a discussion with someone who practices personal attacks. If you have anything to say on substance, please do so on the talk pages of the WP articles you are editing, not my user page. Happy editing! Mhym (talk) 01:52, 26 June 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Valeriy Khoroshkovsky

-- Cirt (talk) 18:04, 26 June 2010 (UTC)

Can you help with this meaning ?

Hi

can you help me please with Borychiv Descent

I need to know what descent means - is it "old town" or "medieval part" or something like that ?

I have been running through the articles needing assessment and there is a lot to do - I have started at the stubs with no assessments for importance and got nearly to the end of B lol

thanks Chaosdruid (talk) 22:14, 26 June 2010 (UTC)

A "descent" in Kyiv is a road that goes downhill from the upper city to the Podil. It's a descent from the hilltop to the riverside. The descents in Kyiv tend to be relatively steep. --Taivo (talk) 00:14, 27 June 2010 (UTC)

Wasn't active on Wikipedia when the question was asked... Glad things worked out! — Mariah-Yulia • Talk to me! 19:21, 1 July 2010 (UTC)

Star

Hi Mariah-Yulia, thank you so much for the Ukranian star. It is very much appreciated. :) Crum375 (talk) 15:54, 29 June 2010 (UTC)

Your note

Hi Mariah-Yulia, is this what you needed? Crum375 (talk) 00:55, 2 July 2010 (UTC)

Yes! Thank you! — Mariah-Yulia • Talk to me! 00:57, 2 July 2010 (UTC)

Great! Glad to be of help. Crum375 (talk) 01:04, 2 July 2010 (UTC)

Azarov Government

Needs revision. Why is everybody putting Strong Ukraine as a separate party? The Verkhovna Rada has not changed. Strong Ukraine did not make to the parliament on its own, but rather within the Lytvyn bloc. And if it so, then Tihipko represents not only Strong Ukraine, but also the whole bloc. Remark could be put that he is a member of that party, but it is should not be different than the rest of the Lytvyn's bloc. The only independent parties in parliament are the one of Regions and the Communists, that is all. Aleksandr Grigoryev (talk) 16:41, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for pointing this out! It seems that Tihipko was appointed minister as an indapendant (see: this article) politician so not on behalf of the Lytvyn Bloc or Strong Ukraine. I made that change in the template. Do you happen to know what party the new appointed acting Minister of Emergencies and Minister of the Protection of the Population from the Chernobyl disaster Mikhail Bolotskikh belongs to? Although according to his ministry's website he only seems to have a job when Party of Regions is at power I could not find any signs he is a member of that party. So I concluded he has no party membership... — Mariah-Yulia • Talk to me! 18:31, 23 July 2010 (UTC)

I am not sure. I assume he is from "one of the Donbass clan" (Party of Regions), but he might actually be unaffiliated. Second of all, I am not sure that he was actually appointed, but rather serves as temporary replacement due to his position (second in the succession line) until the new appointment will be provided. However, those are all my assumptions and might not be what actually takes place. Aleksandr Grigoryev (talk) 18:47, 23 July 2010 (UTC)

I wonder if anybody outside this government knows what takes place... I thought that Nestor Shufrych was high in the Party of Regions hierarchy but he was still sacked...

I had the impression that Ukrainian media described Mikhail Bolotskikh as acting minister, but my grasp of Ukrainian is poor so he might have some other tittle... but it seems he is at least de facto acting minister... — Mariah-Yulia • Talk to me! 21:38, 23 July 2010

Well, I checked the ministerial site. It also states him being temporary acting (exact words). It does not disclose his party affiliation, though. That is why I am not sure. Whatever is happening there it seems very strange. There some ideas to create another ministry of innovation and technology or something like that. And supposedly Semynozhenko will be heading it. However I did not find any further information. Semynozhenko, even though out of the political horizon, received also some administrative position. There are some strange substitutions take place. Yanukovych recently even replaced Malomuzh, the head of the Foreign Intelligence service. I thought the last one was pro-Kuchma. Aleksandr Grigoryev (talk) 00:05, 24 July 2010 (UTC)

Made this userbox, hope you can add it to your userpage!

This user loves the majestic city of Lviv.

I made this userbox, I hope you can add it to your userpage . A.h. king • Talk to me! 18:11, 29 July 2010 (UTC)

I am trying to add it to my user page but it is not working, maybe something is wrong with the internet connection in the hotel. A.h. king • Talk to me! 18:20, 29 July 2010 (UTC)

Done! — Mariah-Yulia • Talk to me! 20:56, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Ukraine local elections, 2010

— Rlevse • Talk • 12:03, 11 August 2010 (UTC)

HAPPY UKRAINIAN INDEPENDENCE DAY!!!

File:Maidan Fireworks.jpg

Happy Ukrainian Independence Day!
A.h. king • Talk to me! 10:27, 23 August 2010 (UTC)

With all respect to Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr., only one phrase can describe what 24 August 1991 means to me: "Free at last! Free at last! Thank God Almighty! We're free at last!" • "Вільні нарешті! Вільні нарешті! Слава Богу, Всемогутній! Ми вільні нарешті!" --Jwkozak91 (talk) 17:36, 23 August 2010 (UTC)

File:Proposed great coat of arms of Ukraine.svg

Happy Independence Day!USchick (talk) 00:13, 24 August 2010 (UTC)

Stub category

Please could you create an appropriate stub category for Template:Ukraine-media-stub which you created. For more information please see Wikipedia:Stub#New stub categories. Thanks — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 12:34, 25 August 2010 (UTC)

Proposed move of List of Ukrainian Jews to List of Jews from Ukrainian lands.

I have notified Tatsmayer and posted a pro forma notice @ Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Ukraine ‎. Dlohcierekim 02:04, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

Thanks, That reminds me: I have to place one of those myself there ! — Mariah-Yulia • Talk to me! 02:06, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Freedom of the press in Ukraine

Hello! Your submission of Freedom of the press in Ukraine at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Cryptic C62 · Talk 16:28, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

Stub categories

Greetings! Two or more stub types which you created have been nominated for renaming or deletion at Wikipedia:Stub types for deletion. The stub type most likely doesn't meet Wikipedia requirements for a stub type, through failure to meet standards relating to the name, scope, current stub hierarchy or likely size, as explained at Wikipedia:Stub. Please feel free to make any comments at WP:SFD regarding this stub type, and in future, please consider proposing new stub types first at Wikipedia:WikiProject Stub sorting/Proposals! This message is a boilerplate, left here as a courtesy, and should not be considered personal in nature. Grutness...wha? 00:31, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

Hi again - you almost got the upmerging right (it should still go to stub categories rather than permanent ones)- I've fixed it up. Have a look at it now. If you're willing to have the others done the same way, then the sfd process can be speedied. Cheers! (BTW, in case you're worried, I'm not anti-Ukrainian - I like Ukraine, and the place I live has something in common with it; have a look at our flag :) Grutness...wha? 07:35, 3 September 2010 (UTC)

I did the upmerging. I never thought you were anti-Ukrainian ! Otago has a cool flag; good reason to move to there !
— Mariah-Yulia • Talk to me! 16:17, 3 September 2010 (UTC)

Oleksandr Tymoshenko/Yulia Tymoshenko

Each of the pages has <ref name=USDoS2003/>, apparently added by you. It is incomplete and causing a cite error. Could you add the full reference? Thanks. ClamDip (talk) 03:19, 5 September 2010 (UTC)

Done! Usually AnomieBOT does do this sort of "reference saving" automatic (that's why I didn't copy the full refs). Something went wrong in Mr. Tymoshenko's article (only 1 ref was saved) but I fixed that. — Mariah-Yulia • Talk to me! 20:26, 6 September 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Freedom of the press in Ukraine

— Rlevse • Talk • 12:03, 9 September 2010 (UTC)

Award

That's really kind of you. Thanks!--Bbb23 (talk) 21:38, 9 September 2010 (UTC)

Yulia Tymoshenko Bloc

Hello. This message is to inform you that I removed your reference addition(s) to Yulia Tymoshenko Bloc. No text was provided for the reference(s), and it was causing a cite error. When you have the time, please re-add the reference(s) with more details. Thanks. Akerans (talk) 18:18, 15 October 2010 (UTC)

Ok. Fixed it; I was hoping AnomieBOT would do it for me... Hence I din't include the full reference... — Mariah-Yulia • Talk to me! 18:24, 15 October 2010 (UTC)

AnomieBOT is pretty good about that, but doesn't catch them all. Thanks for fixing. Akerans (talk) 19:24, 15 October 2010 (UTC)

AnomieBOT did do it's job like I wanted it too! — Mariah-Yulia • Talk to me! 18:43, 15 October 2010 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Mykola Azarov

The article Mykola Azarov you nominated as a good article has failed ; see Talk:Mykola Azarov for reasons why the nomination failed. If or when these points have been taken care of, you may apply for a new nomination of said article. If you oppose this decision, you may ask for a reassessment. Aaron north (T/C) 22:11, 22 October 2010 (UTC)

RE: Maidan + Berkut + Orange Rev

Hey Mariah,

You're certainly correct in saying that you see your own edits there. I simply couldn't right anything more concise or put it any better terms than you did! :) With regard to the piece about the Maidan, I should probably tailor it to be a bit more specific - Berkut and MVS troops made it to the square but were ordered to withdraw at the last minute. Thanks anyway for noticing and for your correspondence :)

G-1900 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gnesener1900 (talk • contribs) 07:16, 11 November 2010 (UTC)

Template suggestion

I was thinking if it is possible to create a template for all political crisis that Ukraine wen through, or there is no need to create such template? A.h. king • Talk to me! 21:56, 27 November 2010 (UTC)

Ukrainian parliamentary election, 2012

I think the table of polls needs to be revised. Since the 2004 political reforms were declared void and there are no more electoral blocs the data in table is not precise and, thus, wrong. Aleksandr Grigoryev (talk) 15:59, 6 December 2010 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Ukrainian_People's_Militia_(2nd_nomination)

I know that history of WW II Ukraine may not be your speciality, but we need help at Ukr People's Militia; someone who can look at the Ukrainian sources. Please consider assisting us. Buckshot06 (talk) 20:55, 6 December 2010 (UTC)

Talkback for Viktor Yushchenko article

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Nikita Mikhalkov

Dear Mariah-Yulia! I have just read an information on Nikita Mikhalkov (Микита Сергійович Михалков), who seems to be a typical великорус (i.e. Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn). Do you understand Polish? "Za dziesięć lat Rosja i Ukraina będą jednym państwem. (...) Myślę, że będzie to jeden kraj. Jesteśmy ludźmi jednej krwi, jednej linii, jednej subtelności i uporu." - oświadczył Nikita Michałkow. -- Best regards, Mibelz, 23:13, 16 Dec 2010 (UTC)