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Former good article nomineeMykola Azarov was a Social sciences and society good articles nominee, but did not meet the good article criteria at the time. There may be suggestions below for improving the article. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake.
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Page is unworthy of a Ukrainian Prime Minister edit

Latest comment: 14 years ago3 comments3 people in discussion

This is not a picture of Mykola Azarov. It is a picture of Carlos Slim. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.11.34.74 (talk) 02:57, 13 March 2010 (UTC)Reply

Followinng his election as President of Ukraine[1][2] Yanukovych offered three candidates for Prime Minister on February 21, 2010: Sergiy Tigipko, Our Ukraine faction member Arseniy Yatsenyuk and Azarov.[1] No offence Mykola but this article is in the worst state of all 3 candidates so I hope he isn't elected...  — Mariah-Yulia • Talk to me! 15:13, 26 February 2010 (UTC)Reply

Win. Cleroth (talk) 22:47, 11 March 2010 (UTC)Reply
  1. ^ a b Yanukovych has yet to secure ruling majority in parliament, Kyiv Post (February 25, 2010)
  2. ^ Ukraine: Tymoshenko vows to contest election result, BBC News (February 15, 2010)

Ethnicity Russian, so what... edit

Latest comment: 8 years ago8 comments6 people in discussion

Some IP editor put in infobox that Azarovs ethnicity is Russian. Just because he was born in Russia does not mean he has Russian ethnicity... This info does not look important enough to be in the infobox anyhow in my opinion and is not in any other Ukrainian politician, or any other politicial, infobox. — Mariah-Yulia • Talk to me! 11:19, 16 March 2010 (UTC)Reply

  • If he really has Russian ethnicity, then it should be stated in the article. This is an encyclopaedia, after all. However, it should be verified first. Being born in a country does not automatically mean you are ethnic to that country/region. --Thorwald (talk) 02:20, 17 March 2010 (UTC)Reply
  • His birth certificate or USSR passport should be investigated to answer this question. His father's surname Pakhlo is likely of Ukrainian origin, but actually it does not mean anything. Azarov does not conceals his Russian ancestry. It is the general point. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.16.139.218 (talk) 10:43, 18 March 2010 (UTC)Reply
I sugest we remove the info, since it does not belong in this sort of infobox and it is guesswork. — Mariah-Yulia • Talk to me! 13:39, 18 March 2010 (UTC)Reply
Absolutely agree with Mariah-Yulia. The article states clearly that he was born in Russia, a fact that the person concerned does not hide. But how can one go from there to assert that he is "ethnically Russian"? Does it matter anyway? Ukraine has a President who was born outside of its current borders: it's hardly the first country in that situation and it won't be the last. We give the place of birth, as we do for every biography when we have the information, and let our readers decide for themselves whether it is important or not. Physchim62 (talk) 16:02, 18 March 2010 (UTC)Reply
Ukraine does not have a President that was born outside it's current borders - what are you talking about? --Львівське (talk) 00:17, 22 October 2010 (UTC)Reply
Yes. I certainly matters and especially so for the Ukraine. The reason is simple: Does the Ukraine point to the East (to Russia) or to the West (to the EU)? If its president is ethnically Russian, he or she might have sympathies for the East. This is an important point and it should be in the article. It speaks to the future of the Ukraine. --Thorwald (talk) 00:34, 19 March 2010 (UTC)Reply
Re "His father's surname Pakhlo is likely of Ukrainian origin" -Jaan Pahlo is a usual Estonian sounding name. His father was half-Estonian. Dorpater (talk) 20:29, 25 February 2016 (UTC)Reply

GA Review edit

Latest comment: 13 years ago5 comments1 person in discussion
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Reviewer: Aaron north (talk) 22:34, 17 October 2010 (UTC)Reply

I have finished my initial review. This article is fairly decent, but there are many problems that need to be fixed. I believe it can be done if the editors want to work on it. I will hold this review for up to a week to allow time for fixes. Aaron north (talk) 23:12, 17 October 2010 (UTC)Reply

 N Failing the article today, nothing has been done yet to address the concerns listed below. Aaron north (T/C) 22:10, 22 October 2010 (UTC)Reply
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  1. It is reasonably well written.
    a (prose):   b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):  
  2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.
    a (references):   b (citations to reliable sources):   c (OR):  
  3. It is broad in its coverage.
    a (major aspects):   b (focused):  
  4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.
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  5. It is stable.
    No edit wars, etc.:  
  6. It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate.
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The following is a list of concerns that I believe need to be satisfied to pass review. If you disagree or believe I made an error, please point that out too. Aaron north (talk) 23:12, 17 October 2010 (UTC)Reply

  • The lead does not mention anything from the last two sections
  • I don't think there's enough coverage of his early political career. You go from his professional life as a geologist straight to heading the budgetary committee in the ukrainian parliament. How did he get into parliament? When? Was he elected or appointed? Similar problem in the first sentence in the next section, how did he become head of the party of region?
  • You are jumping around time, the bit about being elected chairman in 2003 should be after his activity in 2002.
  • This sentence is a bit awkward all around and should be re-worded: (During the first Yanukovych Government governing the set of economic reforms was implemented including fiscal, tax, pensionary, regulatory reforms.)
  • You need to briefly explain why Yanukovych was unable to resume as prime minister, and probably break up that long sentence about his resignation and Azarov's 2nd period as acting PM.
  • How did Yanukovych return as PM? election?
  • In this sentence: (... Azarov was elected the First Deputy Prime Minister and Finance Minister in the second Yanukovych Government.) was he elected to both positions, or was he elected to the former and appointed as finance minister?
  • This article seems rather negative. So far I'm basically reading that he has political allies, works in his various elected positions, is "boring", "anti-populist", a "russophile", and prone to gaffes. Maybe he simply is all that and nothing more, but is there no popular or critical support for him? Voters or constituents who speak out in favor of him? If not then I'll take your word for it, but if we are only showing the negatives, then it puts NPOV in doubt.
  • Could you briefly elaborate on what those court cases filed by women's rights groups are alleging? Any response from him?
  • All internet sources need web site, title, publisher, publish date (if available), and access date.

The following is a list of other thoughts or suggestions to improve the article. It is not necessary to satisfy these points to meet the GA criteria. Aaron north (talk) 23:12, 17 October 2010 (UTC)Reply

  • nothing really comes to mind.

Name change edit

Latest comment: 13 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

The article explains where he got the name "Azarov" from, but doesn't say why he changed his name. Also, it doesn't say why he changed his first name, when, and if it was changed to Nikolai or Mykola first.--Львівське (talk) 00:12, 22 October 2010 (UTC)Reply

IP-editor today (seems to have) removed everything that could be vaguely seen as negative PR edit

Latest comment: 12 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Is there a good reason for that? The (removed) info was all very well sourced. Another reason for removal then "it does not make him look good" I can not think of. — Yulia Romero • Talk to me! 15:59, 7 December 2011

I did not let the sentence "His Russian origin often leads to accusations[which?] by Ukrainian nationalists[who?] and Western media" return since only the BBC seems to have commented about that and the requested references where not given (now) a month since the request for them. — Yulia Romero • Talk to me! 16:08, 7 December 2011 (UTC)Reply

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