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Just to say hi

I guess, you must have been busy on weekend... but there isn't much to be done there at Template:Did you know nominations/Gorce Mountains really, other than to put a sticker on it I think. All best, Poeticbent talk 05:05, 23 January 2013 (UTC)

Poeticbent! I am sorry, very busy these days. Did a copyedit of the article, now I'll take a look at the hook. Thanks for the reminder. The Interior (Talk) 05:41, 23 January 2013 (UTC)

Thanks, The Interior. Great job. Poeticbent talk 06:21, 23 January 2013 (UTC)

Metrotown

Several weeks have passed, and no one else has chimed in at Talk:Metrotown or anywhere else. Should we just do something, anything? - Hinto (talk) 01:14, 28 January 2013 (UTC)

Hey Hinto, sorry the discussion kinda died out, that happens a lot on BC talk pages! I think Hwy43's suggestion is the best way forward, even though it's a bit complicated. Let me know if you need help with the moves. We should nominate your new article for WP:DYK as well, I can help with that if you haven't done a nomination before. Again, great work with that article. The Interior (Talk) 05:39, 28 January 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for your response. I suppose we can continue the discussion at Talk:Metrotown. - Hinto (talk) 02:18, 29 January 2013 (UTC)

Hi The Interior, sure thing re: DYK. I'm actually kind of stuck for idea for a hook, the best I can think of is something along the lines of "(Did you know that...) Burnaby, British Columbia's Metrotown was formerly home to several industrial facilities, including a Ford Motor Company assembly plant?" I'm not sure if that's interesting enough, so I'd like to hear your ideas. Thanks again for your interest in the article, and your help in the naming process. - Hinto (talk) 02:58, 1 February 2013 (UTC)

It's my first English DYK. I've had some of my articles on the Chinese wiki nominated (again by other users) for DYK over there, so I do have some idea of how it works generally, but it's probably a bit different here from the way it is over there. - Hinto (talk) 04:01, 1 February 2013 (UTC)

Images

I only uploaded the one image. I haven't tried my tusc account lately, but I will let you upload more images from that flickr user. You may wish to try a tusc account as well, it seems far easier for bulk uploads from flickr.--Canoe1967 (talk) 17:35, 4 February 2013 (UTC)

Disputed non-free use rationale for File:BearsAndManStill.png

Thank you for uploading File:BearsAndManStill.png. However, there is a concern that the rationale provided for using this file on Wikipedia may not meet the criteria required by Wikipedia:Non-free content. This can be corrected by going to the file description page and adding or clarifying the reason why the file qualifies under this policy. Adding and completing one of the templates available from Wikipedia:Non-free use rationale guideline is an easy way to ensure that your file is in compliance with Wikipedia policy. Please be aware that a non-free use rationale is not the same as an image copyright tag; descriptions for files used under the non-free content policy require both a copyright tag and a non-free use rationale.

If it is determined that the file does not qualify under the non-free content policy, it might be deleted by an administrator within a few days in accordance with our criteria for speedy deletion. If you have any questions, please ask them at the media copyright questions page. Thank you.  — Crisco 1492 (talk) 08:36, 5 February 2013 (UTC)

DYK for Jumbo Glacier, British Columbia

Casliber (talk · contribs) 00:04, 6 February 2013 (UTC)

DYK for Metrotown, Burnaby

Nyttend (talk · contribs) 00:03, 7 February 2013 (UTC)

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Seton Portage

I added the cat originally, but this section was not titled "Land Claims issues" then....that's a soft-soap title for sure....the broader land claims issues there are much deeper, to the natives they're still a scandal; we could chat about that on email if you want; ranging from land alienations on village sites to Hydro not paying much nor letting the reserves have electricity for years; the blockade had to do with the land alienations and the Lillooet Declaration; the deployment of hte RCMP in attack formation days after Bill Vander Zalm dropped in to shake hands and kiss babies is the real scandal; which the media won't call one, not surprising since the Vancouver media didn't report on it until coverage in the Seattle papers and the surfacing of citizen video forced them to; even now it's glossed over as no big deal; a replay for 24 hours at the same spot has been one of the local Idle No More events btw. Maybe there should be a First Nations protests category, and "scandals" winds up still including Fast Ferries, which wasn't really a scandal (just mismanagement) until the Libs sold them to WMG for way too little......there's other scandals that the media avoids that term, "reliable sources" that they're supposed to be, so can't be called that; maybe you could help come up with a better name for that section though, and consider a category to cover this, Oka, Rat Lake and other authorities-FN confrontations?Skookum1 (talk) 15:13, 9 February 2013 (UTC)

I personally agree that land claims issues in BC are scandalous, but I'm not hot on using that term on WP. It's pretty subjective/nebulous. However, a land-claims cat would be useful. I've got a few in my neck of the woods, the standoff and bridge-burning at Adams Lake, the road closures by the Niskonlith at Sun Peaks come to mind. Really busy these days, but if I make one, I'll let you know so you can help populate it.

On another note, come on over to the cite template team! The historian in you must value publishers and page numbers, it's a service to the reader. Sure it takes the editor an extra two or three minutes, it makes for a more useful page. Anyways, back to homework ... The Interior (Talk) 19:48, 9 February 2013 (UTC)

I Always had all that data, according to my own (as raised to) sequence of style/info; but often I could just copy paste that into a basic square-bracket URL link; filling out the line by line to me is time consuming; I'm already on limited time, either because in the past super-busy elsewhere in wiki, or as now superbusy elsewhere (and also on the road).......I know what you're saying; as you know I had some conflict with the deprecators vs some unnecessary template changes which destroyed page contents at the expense of megabytage; and my time including all the energy having spent time with them; same with the MOS crowd in their war on the hyphen changing legitimate - legal - name-styles....yaaaagh but cases in point of the extra time and/or its wanton imposition without looking at all the articles affected (big BC tables loaded with the old bcgnis, suddenly replaced by a huge citeweb; when all needed before was a number (that system is grandfathered at the BC govt by the way but will need change when they stop having it online; it's BC Names now....); ditto bivouac. So I'm wary of templates; call me old-fashioned but also often on the fly....I gotta go, there's a street carnival and supposed to meet a friend...more later. BTW pretty sure know what that IP post was about; has it been blocked; and or ID'd; somewhere in Wiki there should be a body to report stuff like that to; remember...dang forgot her name, Cheyenne woman; I want to say Galadriel but that's not it; great editor and wise person, driven out by personal attacks of various kinds......it's criminal activity in some cases and shouldn't be shunned off. This case is different, I'll tell you elsewhere. Such numbers should be traced, i.e. abusive IPs or obvious political harassment such as with Theresa Spence; as I once observed, character assassination is the m.o. of those with no character; a friend online responded "yeah, and the problem is there's nothing to shoot back at" (or something to that effect). C'est la vie, perhaps, and all parts of UGC sites and blogs and such are subject to them; I use geolocate and whois, still can't find out much, know it's possible. The problem of course here is that many abusive posts know enough to use SPA to hide their location/identity, or try to; CHECKUSER is there but hard to invoke......later....Skookum1 (talk) 11:11, 10 February 2013 (UTC)

It's a pity you need a thick skin to stay on here, it shouldn't be that way. You missed some wonderful drama in regards to the civility policy while you were gone, long story short, no real changes. The abusive IP's I compare to teens yelling things out speeding car windows, they're gone before you figure out what happened, and the cop's aren't probably too interested. But it is truly criminal when a good-faith editor gets driven off by that sort of thing, that damages the community. There was a lot of IP work going on at the Spence page a few weeks ago, a lot of it not good. I sometimes wonder about IP editing in general, then one pops and fixes my typo and I like them again ... The Interior (Talk) 03:06, 11 February 2013 (UTC)

Not the same type of IP user LOL; I was doing IP edits for a while before signing in again.....random maintenace edits for typos and bad English, especially on SE Asia and Philippines articles (many in Latin America need improvement for the same type of thing btw).Skookum1 (talk) 05:58, 11 February 2013 (UTC)

split proposal for Aqueduct

I note your contribution to Talk:Aqueduct and I would like to bring to your attention a proposal that the article Aqueduct be split to Aqueduct (watercourse) and Aqueduct (bridge), with the original article directed to the existing page Aqueduct (disambiguation). Please feel welcome to comment on the proposal at Talk:Aqueduct#Split proposal (2) Please note a similar proposal was made a couple of years ago (see about halfway up the talk page).Nankai (talk) 21:02, 10 February 2013 (UTC)

DYK for Purcell Wilderness Conservancy Provincial Park and Protected Area

Materialscientist (talk) 00:25, 11 February 2013 (UTC)

Not to piss on the parade, but 1974 was during the Barrett era, and the NDP passed a host of such parks in their brief tenure; and it was the Harcourt NDP regime in 1993 that did more; this may have been the largest such declared in 1974, but there were many others, for the same reason (public effort/pressure).Skookum1 (talk) 05:56, 11 February 2013 (UTC)

God bless the park-makers, a good way to get my vote anyway. As for the claim, I was going with the Min. Enviro. on this "The Purcell Wilderness Conservancy Park is one of the first large scale wilderness areas in Canada to be set aside as a result of local citizen action. They may be exaggerating, I don't know. But the Nat parks I do know were all top-down affairs. This might be one of the first times anyone besides heavy industry and the lawmakers were invited to negotiate. Prior to this, there wasn't really a lot of organised wilderness advocacy. The Interior (Talk) 06:10, 11 February 2013 (UTC)

Oh there was but it was always ignored by the Social Credit and Liberal-Conservative Coalition crowd; what's now the misnamed South Chilcotin Provincial Park was originally a citizens' campaign from the 1930s led by Charlie Cunningham (who needs and article if I didn't make one for him yet; my source books are all back in Canada) and was supported by the local mining communities of the Bridge River Country (which is the real name for the so-called South Chilcotin, which isn't even part of the Chilcotin, but never mind that for now LOL....rebranding again....) and had a wide following; Cunningham was one of Canada's first wilderness/wildlife film-makers and his stuff made it world-wide and was also some of the classroom stuff in my school years)......I'll see what I can find out about the 1974 park-creations, there were several, not sure if any were larger; it's certainly one of the largest.....some parks like Wells Gray and Tweedsmuir have never been fully protected from mining and logging, though Tweedsmuir was around this time greatly expanded.Skookum1 (talk) 06:30, 11 February 2013 (UTC)

the big national parks along the CPR were the railway's doing; at least someone in industry had vision then (Van Horne or Strathcona, can't remember who it was who saw the value in them...). Similarly Glacier National Park in the US was created by pressure from the Northern Pacific's big boss Mr Hill...who also built big railway hotels like his Canadian counterparts.Skookum1 (talk) 06:32, 11 February 2013 (UTC)

Stikine-Spatsizi were also created by public pressure, but I think not in that era, can't remember now, must be in the Harcourt era as the Stikine lobbyists were fighting five big dams in the '80s now aborted....Skookum1 (talk) 06:34, 11 February 2013 (UTC)

Notification of discussion

A few months ago, you participated in a discussion on Wikipedia talk:Did you know about Gibraltar-related DYKs on the Main Page. I am proposing that the temporary restrictions on such DYKs, which were imposed in September 2012, should be lifted and have set out a case for doing so at Wikipedia talk:Did you know/Gibraltar-related DYKs. If you have a view on this, please comment at that page. Prioryman (talk) 22:12, 13 February 2013 (UTC)

DYK for Bears and Man

 — Crisco 1492 (talk) 21:36, 14 February 2013 (UTC)

DYK for Fresh Off the Boat: A Memoir

 — Crisco 1492 (talk) 21:37, 14 February 2013 (UTC)

Langara College wireless is blocked :(

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The Interior (block log • active blocks • global blocks • autoblocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

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Accept reason: Yup, someone at your school is goofing around. I've cleared the autoblock - should be good. Repost this unblock if it is not working. Kuru (talk) 01:40, 7 March 2013 (UTC)

Thanks Kuru. Looks like we're back in action. The Interior (Talk) 01:43, 7 March 2013 (UTC)

Awesome. Apologies for the inconvenience. Kuru (talk) 01:47, 7 March 2013 (UTC)

Not your fault! I probably shouldn't be editing during a lecture anyway ;) The Interior (Talk) 01:53, 7 March 2013 (UTC)

Agains

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Accept reason: Done. Fvasconcellos (t·c) 01:22, 13 March 2013 (UTC)

Also, would it be possible to get IPblock-exempt until the end of April? I use this network quite a bit. The Interior (Talk) 22:50, 12 March 2013 (UTC)

Heloooooo.... The Interior (Talk) 00:52, 13 March 2013 (UTC)

I have removed the autoblock flag on the Thorblood account and you shouldn't need the IPBE. If you are autoblocked again, feel free to drop me a an email and I will deal with it as soon as I see it. -- DQ (ʞlɐʇ) 01:27, 13 March 2013 (UTC)

Thanks Fvasconcellos, and DQ. Was feeling lonely for a bit there ;) The Interior (Talk) 01:28, 13 March 2013 (UTC)

Ball State Project Page Up

Hi Pat, our official project page is now up. I think you are supposed to be represented on it somewhere so I'll leave that up to you! We'll get started on topic ideas tomorrow, after which I'll try to have groups coalesce around the most promising. I hope to share topic ideas in the course Talk page, but if we do that somewhere else I'll let you know. I'll also let you know when Pathfinders are appointed. Cheers —Webster Newbold (talk) 21:41, 18 February 2013 (UTC)

Hi Pat; We gathered into groups this past Thursday, and I see several have already been in touch with you below. I've gathered groups and their tentative topics on the Project Talk page so there will be one place to go for both you and me to see who is doing what. The sections are meeting again on the project on Thursday Feb 28, then Spring Break intervenes. By Thursday I'm hoping each group can have a solid proposal for a topic, having researched potential sources more completely. I'll ask them to post a more complete description of what they intend to do along with the possible sources they have found in the pathfinders' sandboxes by the end of the day on Thursday. In the meantime, you'll notice that some topics are more developed than others. Could you take a preliminary look (as time permits) at those that already have a specific article and page identified and see if there are any difficulties or potential pitfalls you can notice right away? If you have any comments it might be good to post them to the pathfinder's sandbox, as that is where they will be doing most of the article work. (Two pathfinders haven't enrolled officially yet--you could put comments for that group right under the section on the Project Talk page.) Sorry to dump a lot at once, and thanks again for helping out. Web -Webster Newbold (talk) 23:23, 23 February 2013 (UTC)

Ball State ENG 213 Group Project

Hi Ball State students. Welcome to my glorious talk page. Questions are welcome, please use three "="'s if you can for your headings. Wikilinks (using those square brackets) will make my life easier too. Looking forward to seeing your work! The Interior (Talk) 01:58, 28 February 2013 (UTC)

Kawright4

Hello Pat, my name is Katie and I'm the pathfinder for my group for the ENG 213 Project Page. My group has decided to contribute to the page Disneyland Paris. We are interested in researching about the history of the Amusement park and also the leading factors that caused it to close down. Please let me know if you have any questions or concerns. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kawright4 (talk • contribs) 21:59, 21 February 2013 (UTC)

After some discussion we decided that for now we are going to focus on the incidents section and also we have discussed adding more detail about the attractions offered at Disneyland Paris. We will be reviewing sources today as a group. I will update my sandbox with the list of sources that we have decided to use. Do you have any suggestions about other areas of the page to work on? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kawright4 (talk • contribs) 20:09, 28 February 2013 (UTC)

Hello Pat, while viewing the history of the Disneyland Paris page we noticed that there has recently been some vandalism by an anonymous I.P. Our professor instructed us to let you know about this activity in case the user needed to be blocked. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kawright4 (talk • contribs) 21:31, 28 February 2013 (UTC) Also, we have found sources and assigned each group member an area of the page to update. These assignments can be found in my sandbox along with our list of sources. Kawright4 (talk) 21:39, 28 February 2013 (UTC)

Hi Pat, we are back from Spring Break and ready to finish up our wikipedia project. We would like to know if you had any advice relating to our sources or topic choice. Also we were wondering if the problem with the unknown IP who had vandalized the page in the past has been taken care of. Thanks in advance for any help. Kawright4 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 19:56, 12 March 2013 (UTC)

Hello, The sections that we are adding to the Disneyland Paris article are up for review. Two of the sections are still in progress and we are working on adding citations in for those sections. Let us know if you have any feedback or recommendations for improvements. Thank you. Kawright4 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 20:46, 21 March 2013 (UTC)

Tervis Tumbler sect 3

Hello Pat, My name is Molly and I am the pathfinder for my group in English 213-3.we had decided to contribute to the Tervis Tumbler stub page. We intend to rewrite the promotional content so that it is from a neutral point of view. We also plan to do more research and cite information on the page. Mollymiller44 (talk) 23:31, 21 February 2013 (UTC)

We have since worked further on researching for our article. There are links posted in my sandbox, please feel free to look through them and let me know what you think. Mollymiller44 (talk) 21:36, 28 February 2013 (UTC)

Hey, we have finished our draft of the page (located in my sandbox) and look forward to hearing your thoughts. Mollymiller44 (talk) 20:42, 21 March 2013 (UTC)

Salutations

Hey Pat. I'm Veronica, and I'm the pathfinder for our group. We've got five people in our group, so we've decided to majorly expand the animal ethics page, seeing as it's pretty empty right now. We'll be contributing information from at least ten sources. I look forward to working together in the future. Vmsipe (talk) 147.226.198.219 (talk) 17:35, 24 February 2013 (UTC)

Okay, so we met today and compared sources, most of which are listed in my sandbox. I have three physical books to add to my sources and two people weren't in class, so those sources are not listed. We decided we will structure the page similar to the ethics page, with definition and history sections, and then sections describing (more briefly and with better organization than the ethics page) the primary branches of the study of animal ethics. However, as we don't yet have a perfect grasp of what those branches are, we are all going to peruse some basic, more neutral sources over spring break to try to familiarize ourselves with the topic. When we come back, hopefully we will have a better idea and can get some more specific topics and start reading. Vmsipe (talk) 21:44, 28 February 2013 (UTC)

We've got our rough draft of the animal ethics page up now. It's QUITE rough. A lot of our citations are in like, pseudo-MLA instead of coded into the references section, but we're working on that. A few sections might be missing references as well, but that will be fixed as we go through inserting the references. Aside from that, I think we've got all of our content, except for a few additions to the beginning of the timeline and a little more in the intro, and maybe a bit of shuffling around in the Views section. So yeah. Please give us your thoughts and edits. Vmsipe (talk) 21:27, 21 March 2013 (UTC)

Hello!

Hello Pat! My name is Adrianna and I am the path finder for my group in English 213. We are doing Earth religion and I was wondering about how we should go about listing the various religions that fall under the category. Since there are separate wiki pages for most of the religions should we simply make a list and only describe any that do not have a wiki page, or should we make a short summary anyway? Or should we only summarize the direct relation to Earth Religion within each religion?

Thank you so much for helping our class out!AaMartin2 (talk) 16:06, 26 February 2013 (UTC)

My pleasure! The Interior (Talk) 02:26, 27 February 2013 (UTC)

Earth Religion

To be honest I think my group is a little lost on exactly how to go about adding to this page. As you said it is a very broad topic. We haven't had many ideas of what to add besides the religions that fall under this category, the ethics surrounding it, and examples of it in popular culture. Here is a link to my sandbox which has our current sources and ideas http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:AaMartin2/sandbox AaMartin2 (talk) 02:54, 27 February 2013 (UTC)

We have finished our rough draft of the article. It would be helpful if you could explain to us the process of transferring from my sandbox onto the actual article. Newbold said something about how we need to transfer a stub into a new article or something. Thank you.AaMartin2 (talk)

Workaholics Group

My name is Sam and I am the pathfinder for our group. Our group is doing our page on Workaholics the Comedy Central television series. How should I go about getting information about the production company that makes it. they ony have a bio section on their website and I am looking for more info. ````SamuelAgee```` — Preceding unsigned comment added by SamuelAgee (talk • contribs) 18:39, 28 February 2013 (UTC)

Project Group: Under Armor

Hi, my name is Geordan Baker and I'm the pathfinder for a group project to edit the Under Armour page. Please look at the sources listed in my sandbox to see if they are acceptable to use.

GeordanHD (talk) 18:47, 28 February 2013 (UTC)

Hello, This is Geordan Baker again and we are ready for our information to be reviewed. Our information is located in my Sandbox. We'll need help next week for including it into the main article.

GeordanHD (talk) 17:51, 21 March 2013 (UTC)

Chicago Pizza Restaurant Group

My name is Titiana and I am the pathfinder for our group. At this point we are hoping to do a new page on a restaurant called Chicago Pizza & Oven Grinder Co. We plan to do a few sections such as the history, location, menu, and reviews. As a group we are collaboratively working together on the page which entails four of us. Visit my sandbox for a list of our sources and topic descriptions. Titiana2012flax (talk) 21:46, 28 February 2013 (UTC)

Hey, That would be great if you could take a picture, please do if you have the opportunity. Thank you. Titiana2012flax (talk) 20:01, 19 March 2013 (UTC)

Hi Pat--I "moved" the article from Titiana's sandbox into a new article on WP entitled "Chicago Pizza and Oven Grinder Company." The move was successful but I can find it through the search. I hope I didn't screw up--I messaged you some days ago but I know you're busy finishing up. I want to put the course banner and announcement on the Talk page. Cheers, Web - Webster Newbold (talk) 17:06, 5 April 2013 (UTC)

Sorry Webster, yes very busy lately and somehow overlooked your message. I can see the issue - you moved it into "Wikipedia" space instead of "Article" space. I've done that before. I'll do the move and tag the "Wikipedia" version for deletion. Best, The Interior (Talk) 17:13, 5 April 2013 (UTC)

It's now where it should be: Chicago Pizza and Oven Grinder Company. The Interior (Talk) 17:21, 5 April 2013 (UTC)

Pat—if the pizza restaurant would agree to release a photo of the building and of the pot pie to the public domain, could I upload those to Wikimedia commons for inclusion into the article? Would an email release of copyright be sufficient? This is assuming that the restaurant or one of its employees took the photos--which may or may not be the case. Hope things are going well as you head toward your degree (or maybe you are finished by now?) --Web Webster Newbold (talk) 20:49, 13 April 2013 (UTC)

This gets a bit complicated, but it's done all the time. You can upload the images to commons, but the copyright holder (the photographer) has to send an email confirming the release of the image to the WMF to put on file. The process is outlined here: Wikipedia:Requesting copyright permission. As for me, everything's almost squared away, just need to do a practicum at a local library, which should be fun. Then, as Mr. Thorogood says, time to get a haircut and get a Real Job! The Interior (Talk) 18:10, 14 April 2013 (UTC)

Tumblr article

Pat--I put a note requesting more comment on the Tumblr Talk page; it was framed generally to anyone who might have suggestions for making the article better. If there is no response in a few days, should we go ahead and improve the Culture section and put it back? Webster Newbold (talk) 01:28, 8 April 2013 (UTC)

The relevant process here is WP:BRD "Bold, revert, discuss" The student boldly added to the page, was reverted, and now discussion should happen. The reverting editor, Ohnoitsjamie (talk · contribs) may have missed your post, you could leave a "talkback" for the talk page, like this {{tb|Talk:Tumblr}} on their talk. If there's no discussion, I would feel free to return the content if I was in the student's shoes. It's relevant, cited content. The Interior (Talk) 22:33, 8 April 2013 (UTC)

The Tea Leaf - Issue Seven (special Birthday recap)

A celebratory cupcake from the Teahouse Birthday Badge

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25 DYK Creation and Expansion Medal

		The 25 DYK Creation and Expansion Medal
		Congratulations on reaching the milestone of 25 DYKs. Your efforts and contributions have significantly added to Wikipedia's coverage of Canada and BC. Excellent job and keep up the great work! —Bloom6132 (talk) 21:10, 27 February 2013 (UTC)

Thanks, Bloom! The Interior (Talk) 23:19, 27 February 2013 (UTC)

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Article Feedback deployment

Hey The Interior; I'm dropping you this note because you've used the article feedback tool in the last month or so. On Thursday and Friday the tool will be down for a major deployment; it should be up by Saturday, failing anything going wrong, and by Monday if something does :). Thanks, Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 21:20, 13 March 2013 (UTC)

WikiProject naming

Hi there, in relation to the use of WikiProject in a page title, I've started a discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Council#Should the "Wikipedia:WikiProject" prefix be reserved for "full projects/sub projects/task groups" or any gathering?. I don't want to get into any of the other issues associated with this Englishness course or Jack or anything like that, only the appropriateness of the page name. As a holder of a dissenting view to mine, I would appreciate your input to the discussion. Regards, The-Pope (talk) 03:33, 15 March 2013 (UTC)

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Sorry for getting back to you so late. I'm fine with publishing that this week, under the current title, but if you come up with anything different in the next several hours, feel free to change it. :-) Ed ^{[talk] [majestic titan]} 09:38, 20 March 2013 (UTC)

Thank you for putting that article together this week. :-) Please feel free to contribute more in the future! Ed ^{[talk] [majestic titan]} 20:34, 23 March 2013 (UTC)

It was fun, I'll try to contribute some more articles down the line. Best, The Interior (Talk) 04:07, 24 March 2013 (UTC)

Incidentally, this may be too soon, but we're doing a GLAM-themed issue on 1 April to coincide with the launch of a new Wikizine section. If you're interested in writing something for that, please let me know! Ed ^{[talk] [majestic titan]} 11:25, 25 March 2013 (UTC)

Oooh, I would like to help out. I'm swamped with school until at least Thursday. What's the plan for the issue? The Interior (Talk) 22:44, 25 March 2013 (UTC)

Right now, we will have an NAN story on GLAM applicants for WMF funds and (we hope) a two-part op-ed, one arguing pro-GLAM, the other against. We would be looking for a story for the Wikizine section, I believe. Ed ^{[talk] [majestic titan]} 19:57, 26 March 2013 (UTC)

Well, no op-ed now, but the other plans are the same. Ed ^{[talk] [majestic titan]} 01:50, 29 March 2013 (UTC)

DYK for Centennial Range

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Library-related

Hi The Interior! I'm sorry I haven't replied to your email yet. I have had a crazy two weeks. It's in my inbox and I'm going to try and give you a full response today or tomorrow. I'm really looking forward to talking with you about it and hope we can share some good ideas. Cheers! Ocaasi ^{t | c} 16:25, 24 March 2013 (UTC)

By the way, I also like prosciutto, and as an early birthday present had some quite tasty La quercia prosciutto americano yesterday at a farmer's market in town. And this which was even better. Prosciutto, with a little aged gouda and a touch of fig jam, I would kill people for that, or almost. Ocaasi ^{t | c} 16:50, 24 March 2013 (UTC)

Thank you!

	Thank you!
	Thank you for your advice re: editing Future Shock Comics entry. We removed the bios and submitted again. Hopefully, it will get approved. Much appreciated. Pat Futureshockcomicsmcgreal (talk) 19:42, 27 March 2013 (UTC)

My first DYK nomination

Thanks for the fix! Who'd have thought it was something as straightforward as my own typo... I was sure it was a conspiracy! ;-) Bishonen | talk 23:18, 2 April 2013 (UTC).

You're welcome. Maybe your fingers are conspiring against your brain! The Interior (Talk) 23:23, 2 April 2013 (UTC)

Welcome to DYK, by the way. The Interior (Talk) 23:24, 2 April 2013 (UTC)

Where's a CU when you need one?

Let the socking accusations begin! Have fun getting busy ;) --Jezebel'sPonyo^{bons mots} 23:41, 5 April 2013 (UTC)

It's alright, you're probably the only person who watches this page ;) We're the awesomest socks, good hand/better hand. Good to see you back! As for getting busy, unfortunately, this busy isn't the fun kind. I need a real-life sock puppet. The Interior (Talk) 00:06, 6 April 2013 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) Hey now, there are others that stalk you! ;o) Hwy43 (talk) 20:49, 6 April 2013 (UTC)

Oh crap, we're busted. Okay Hwy43, what do we need to pay you to keep this quiet? Ponyo's got the cash, because she's the sockmaster. The Interior (Talk) 22:31, 6 April 2013 (UTC)

How about a pair of new argyle socks signed by you and Ponyo? Hwy43 (talk) 06:50, 7 April 2013 (UTC)

Counteroffer: 1/2 pair used athletic socks. The Interior (Talk) 04:02, 9 April 2013 (UTC)

Gross. Counter denied. Hwy43 (talk) 06:13, 9 April 2013 (UTC)

Shooshwap or Shoosswap?

Please see User_talk:Kwamikagami#pronunciation_of_.22Shuswap.22_for_IPA_if_you.27ve_got_a_moment.Skookum1 (talk) 16:27, 6 April 2013 (UTC)

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re edit on Glacier Park

yeah, totally...."much of the park" vs 12% of it.....some much flubbery and conflation on many articles of this kind.....there are no real BIG glaciers in the Selkirks anywhere, unlike the Pacific Ranges and Kitimat Ranges and Boundary Ranges. Another line in that article that bugs me says "most of the park is heavily glaciated" which conjures up images of big glaciers rather than just glacially-carved peaks and valleys.....the only UN-glaciated part of BC is the Brooks Peninsula, which was outside the Cordilleran Icesheet. How much of Canada was not glaciated?? Very little.Skookum1 (talk) 07:02, 8 April 2013 (UTC)

Mmm hmm, I'm going to redo the lead part when I'm finished with the body. I hiked up to the Illecillewaet Glacier last August, it was pretty crusty, amazing how far it's receded in the last century. Guess it was a pretty popular spot back in the day. I've been going through the national park articles, there's a couple good ones, but the majority are very poor, reading like crappy, incorrect versions of parks materials. Yoho's just a stub. Jasper's pretty bad. Auyuittuq National Park looks look somewhere I want to visit. The Interior (Talk) 07:51, 8 April 2013 (UTC)

Auyuittuq would cost you more to get to than Australia or South Africa.....surprised Yoho's a stub and Jasper's not great either....haven't really looked at Mount Revelstoke National Park, it may have seen some improvements since Revelstoke's ski operation expanded....Mount Stephen House is the one big railway hotel we don't yet have articles on, though Glacier House and the North Bend Hotel and the Sicamous Hotel and Incola Hotel and other railway articles are also needed; I'll make a start on Mount Dawson (Canada) right now.....Skookum1 (talk) 09:56, 8 April 2013 (UTC)

As per my edit comment, I can't reach Bivouac right now from here, maybe you can.....here's the URL that I can't get loaded.....there's also Mount Dawson (New Brunswick) which at 1614m I think it said, is pretty high for the Maritimes and might be the highest, certainly among the highest, there.Skookum1 (talk) 10:10, 8 April 2013 (UTC)

The NB one is just a hill, really, you've got the height in feet. Don't see much need for an article based on the Biv page, unless there's some history or someone strikes it rich. Is Eleven Mile Brook of any import? I may have a photo of M. dawson, just going through my old hardrives. Man, I need better file management. The Interior (Talk) 02:53, 9 April 2013 (UTC)

1614 FEET is still high in the Maritimes, it still very well could be one of the highest in NB, if not the highest; all summits in non-montane regions are in bivouac simply as part of the prominence analysis of the continent; in fact I may have charted that one; unless notable no other summits in the flatter provinces or states are in bivouac, unless part of a prominence chain (I can't access the bivouac page, does it say what its height ranking in NB is? It might.....Skookum1 (talk) 03:20, 9 April 2013 (UTC)

Been a while since I was out east... Biv doesn't give a height ranking, gives it 105m prominence, parent is Trafton Mountain. Blurb reads "Locates on the northeast side of Eleven Mile Brook. Access is via a logging road that reaches the north side of this hill. From the road bushwhack south to reach the summit." It'd be a pretty dry stub, but then again that's 95% of our mountain articles. The Interior (Talk) 03:49, 9 April 2013 (UTC)

Hi, it's been a while since I made a BA (GA in french) about a national park, but I am happy someone decide to work on the national parks of Canada in English. Maybe after the park I am working on actually (Bic National Park), I should finish La Mauricie or Cape Breton Highlands. --03:44, 10 April 2013 (UTC)

Fralambert, bonjour! I was just looking at your excellent fr:Parc national des Glaciers, very fine work. If my french was better, I would be stealing from your article! Let me know if you see any errors in my work; I'm adding content fairly quickly so I can nominate for DYK, but I'm almost out of time I think. Still need to add about 700 words, and real life has its demands. The Interior (Talk) 03:56, 10 April 2013 (UTC)

Mount Dawson's montane-ocean deposits

I'd thought maybe this material might be about the Bridge River Ocean or the Slide Mountain Ocean, but neither of those are in the 600 million year range; was going to link them; there's probably an article somewhere on that particular group of deposits that can be linked, though.Skookum1 (talk) 02:26, 9 April 2013 (UTC)

Reading that over again, I may have invented the sea floor. Woods actually says the sediment was deposited on a shelf of what is now north america by river action, more a delta than a sea. I'm always worried when paraphrasing geology stuff because its not an area of expertise - thanks for pointing that one out. As to what we're dealing with 600 mya i don't know, and Woods doesn't give detail. He's the former chief intepreter for the park, but may not be a geologist either. I'll look for some better geology sources, Dawson's original report and Wheeler's study would be the ones I think ... The Interior (Talk) 02:46, 9 April 2013 (UTC)

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Hello "The interior". Thank you for your advice re: editing the entry for Future Shock Comics. I have a friend Rachel who is helping and she submitted it again. She thinks she followed your suggestions, but is concerned the article is only a "stub" because it's so short. But the reason it was rejected earlier was because it was too long. So we're kinda stuck. Any future suggestions would be more that appreciated. Thank you kindly. Pat Futureshockcomicsmcgreal (talk) 23:25, 10 April 2013 (UTC)

Adrian Dix

I missed that it had been repeated elsewhere in the article but I stand by its re-inclusion. It needs to be there for the sake of history, and no edit war can change history. --BlueSquadronRaven 03:17, 11 April 2013 (UTC)

Well, no, it's not; this line " Police raided Clark's home over a potentially lucrative casino licence handed to one of the premier's pals." is completely wrong, if that's what canada.com (same media chain as the Sun) said, then it's a further demonstration of why the MSM are not reliable sources. Pilarinos was a neighbour whose kids played with Clark's kids, and that's where the story begins, he was not one of the Premier's "pals"....which also is unencyclopedic language.Skookum1 (talk) 03:53, 15 April 2013 (UTC)

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Manning Park?

You're doing such a great job on Glacier that I thought I'd suggest E. C. Manning Provincial Park be your next project; Garibaldi Provincial Park could probably use some cleanup, but Manning is "thin on the ground". We should probably do an assessment list of park articles as to what is most priority for upgrading, starting with major ones; and yes of course Yoho National Park is barely more than a stub so far....Skookum1 (talk) 03:48, 15 April 2013 (UTC)

Wow, he's right about Yoho. There must be more to say than that! I stayed a couple days there once and loved it. Unfortunately I know little about the place, except how much I liked it. I still have an odd little rock, lovely green, in my front yard garden taken from the base of Wapta Falls. Pfly (talk) 05:55, 15 April 2013 (UTC)

Yoho is a Blackfoot (Tsuu Tina - I think) term for "it is beautiful" or "wow ain't that beautiful".....YoHO, I think, in the originalSkookum1 (talk) 06:19, 15 April 2013 (UTC)

Yoho might be next, but it would be good to do a bit of a survey of Parks articles to figure out what needs the most work. Manning would be fun, too, I've never been. Pfly, IT'S ILLEGAL TO STEAL ROCKS FROM CANADA'S NATIONAL PARKS. A MOUNTIE SHALL BE ARRIVING SHORTLY TO RETRIEVE IT. But srsly, if you guys want to help, the online Parks Canada histories aren't bad at all, I've been citing them. Yoho's got the Burgess Shale going on ([1]), as well as railway history. Anyways, still some finishing up to do on Glacier. The Interior (Talk) 15:09, 15 April 2013 (UTC)

eep! :) Pfly (talk) 03:35, 16 April 2013 (UTC)

They Taser people for that, you know.Skookum1 (talk) 04:01, 16 April 2013 (UTC)

The various waterfall articles around there have good writeups/cites too, or some of them do, also the more noted climbing peaks probably also, I haven't looked........Mount Stephen House and Field, British Columbia come into the equation also; not sure if Field is in the park or on its edge though; Mount Stephen House was another like Canyon House or the Louise-Banff-Jasper triumvirate; very unique looking too, tragically lost to fire.....and yeah a survey of parks articles very useful; Tweedsmuir which was the very first certainly needs a lot of work; haven't really looked at Wells Gray; a "to go with" for Manning is Cathedral Provincial Park, which you Pfly would enjoy partly for its remoteness; the Canadian Paysaten isn't a park unlike across the border in the US, it's to the south of Princeton I think.......another major and kinda important park is the Stein Provincial Park whatever its proper name that link should work, and of course Strathcona on Vancouver Island. Many smaller parks are just campgrounds but some have significant history or geographic import; e.g. Emory Creek Provincial Park, which is adjacent to Hills Bar, which I've let WP:MINING know about (it's the site of the first claims of the Fraser gold rush in the area and quite the story overall). My thinking was the big parks, given the number of smaller ones that are relatively insignificant and also the older ones vs the minor newer ones (Stein is a major newer one, as is the South Chilcotin one whose name I despite but that's a long story); the most visited provincial parks are, other than Seymour and Cypress - Garibaldi, Golden Ears, Manning and Wells Gray, I'm pretty sure of that, plus Strathcona I guess......some of the real remote ones could use highlighting though it'll be a lot of research e.g. Tatlatui Provincial Park or one similarly remote but also storied....Skookum1 (talk) 18:25, 15 April 2013 (UTC)

There is about 627 Class A park in BC, you have lot of choice! (More that the 24 parks in Quebec) A excellent source for a article is the management plans. --Fralambert (talk) 23:21, 15 April 2013 (UTC)

good call

Damn I didn't mean to do that thought I was tagging the talk for the rescue page..forgot it was freaking redirected.. thanks for fixing. Hell In A Bucket (talk) 02:07, 16 April 2013 (UTC)

No worries! The Interior (Talk) 02:09, 16 April 2013 (UTC)

meatpuppet on Dix now....

LOL this just gets more asinine all the time see here and on Bearcat's and MastCell's pages.........I'm of a mind that Wikipedians should issue a press release about the misreporting and also the targeting of me, and about the ongoing attempts to use Wikipedia as a political attack ad.......there's POV deletions on the CClark article all the time, that doesn't get an article of course because the Sun itself is one giant POV deletion. Note the links to Glavin and Tsakumis articles on Casinogate (which I'm tempted to start today but my SEO work is backed up)....that the Sun and its evil twin are the only news outlets treating this as a matter of major concern is a clear indicated that they're on the same side as User:ConcernedVancouverite.....at some point, on my own blog or another friend's blog, if not here, a "list of reasons why the Sun is NOT a reliable source" is gonna get started; actually someone in blogspace has one out there already.......anyways back to writing about saffron extract and the use of equipoise in the cockfighting biz in the Phils........my wiki experience has set me up ideally for writing SEO articles ;-). Anyways I reported it to Bearcat and MastCell and WP:CANTALK, I"m sure action will be taken shortly......not by Mr Lee, who precipitated all this, and whose article is being used as if factual and the lies are actually being made part of the new copy........Skookum1 (talk) 02:29, 16 April 2013 (UTC)

Oh, ffs. How am I supposed to get any work done with all this excitement? I see Jbmurray's taken care of it. This is going from stupid to stupider. Keep pounding out that SEO gold, where does that stuff end up, and who reads it? The Interior (Talk) 03:02, 16 April 2013 (UTC)

BTW, ConcernedVancouverite's not an SPA, they've been around as long as I have. Which you would think would mean they'd think twice about an edit like that, but I guess not. The Interior (Talk) 03:12, 16 April 2013 (UTC)

DYK for Glacier National Park (Canada)

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