Talk:List of Hollyoaks characters/Archive 1

Archive 1

requested move

should be moved to List of Hollyoaks characters--82.39.105.140 21:11, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

It is in accordance with List of characters from EastEnders and List of characters from Coronation Street. -Trampikey^{(talk)(contribs)} 21:27, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

Will and Zoe

can anyone provide a source that they have gone for good? -Trampikey^{(talk)(contribs)} 17:02, 10 May 2007 (UTC)

Adding things in the comings and goings

Could people stop putting false people in the "coming and goings" section? Rik Waller and Dan Falzon are joining the show Liz and Sonny are returning and Gilly is leaving. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.90.207.212 (talk) 01:44, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

The owens return

The family are going to return. I know this for a fact as I am asked Ciara Janson when she came back and visted my stage school. I would apprecate it if you did not remove this from the list of charecters page. Thank you —Preceding unsigned comment added by EdzMaldoom (talk • contribs) 21:50, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

The facts should be accompanied by a valid internet source, not just hearsay. So, if Inside Soap or Digital Spy report it then it may be deleted just like the Rik Waller and Dan Falzon rumours which are untrue. 69.90.207.212 18:25, 4 September 2007 (UTC)samusek2

Mercedes/Russ Tina/Dom Question for User:Jimmy3797

Why is Tina allowed to not be listed under the McQueen Family and with the Reilly Family and Russ is not allowed to be in the same family as Mercedes as they are still legally married?69.90.207.142 20:57, 11 September 2007 (UTC) samusek2

Craig Dean

It has been confirmed that Guy Burnet (Craig) is leaving in September. See DigitalSpy.

ThaGazBoi^{>talk) (contribs} 1:42, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

There isn't any confirmation on Digital Spy. Please provide a link. -Trampikey^{(talk)(contribs)} 12:51, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

It has been reported in More! magazine that Craig leaves on the 20th September. I've added the date into the departing characters entry but I don't know how you'd provide a link for something reported in a magazine. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Poppydunbar (talk • contribs) 14:54, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

ruccuring

whats happened to the recurring characters section —Preceding unsigned comment added by Magicste (talk • contribs) 14:36, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

Kieran Hobbs

I've created a page for him because he is now a regular character. He is included in the credits and is on the main cast list on the Hollyoaks website. People can edit it if they so wish too. ThaGazBoi 23:35, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

Is Kevin Sacre leaving?

I know the character is trying to run off, but I haven't actually heard Kevin is going anywhere. --JamesB3 (talk) 18:43, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

Isn't he moving to Corrie? Or is that Matt Littler? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.64.208.233 (talk) 18:17, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

Rafi Rashid

We seem to have another 'names' issue for Hollyoaks. In the on-screen credits for this character last night be was called "Ravi Roy" -- what is the 'scoop' on this one, please? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.64.213.27 (talk) 11:36, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

The name, I believe, was sourced from the Channel 4 Hollyoaks news section. Probably best to wait and see what the Channel 4 website says. ~~ [Jam]^[talk] 12:05, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

According to http://www.channel4.com/entertainment/tv/microsites/H/hollyoaks/cast/boys/raviroy/, his name is Ravi Roy. Seems the people who announced his arrival got his name completely wrong... ~~ [Jam]^[talk] 14:19, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

Exactly what happened with Father Kieron O'Dowd, which is why I queried it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.64.208.146 (talk) 16:00, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

I also notice that the on screen credits call the actor "Stephen Uppal", not "Stephen Uppall"! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.64.208.233 (talk) 18:15, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

Another case of the Channel 4 website getting it completely wrong...

Here is his CV anyway - http://www.spotlight.com/interactive/cv/7893-1275-8436 - showing that he is atleast playing a character called "Ravi" and his surname only has one "l". ~~ [Jam]^[talk] 18:23, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

Speaking of Rafi, should he be added to the minor characters page? --JamesB3 (talk) 20:15, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

If you want to add him, go for it :). ~~ [Jam]^[talk] 21:01, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

I added Rafi. I was wondering if you thought Kieron or Niall should get their own pages yet, or if Roger should be moved to past characters. --JamesB3 (talk) 00:50, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

Has Roger officially gone now? With regard to Kieron and Niall, I'd probably leave it a little longer although I suspect they'll soon qualify for their own pages. ~~ [Jam]^[talk] 08:08, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

I haven't seen Roger mentioned in any spoilers since Sarah dumped him, and he hasn't been around since early May. I guess maybe we could wait a few more weeks. --JamesB3 (talk) 22:26, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

Craig's Return

I think it has been confirmed now that Guy Burnet is making a brief return to Hollyoaks, not just the late night special. [1] --JamesB3 (talk) 08:35, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

Ah OK. I don't think it was cited (his return) and I hadn't seen that news item so I just removed it. If you want to re-add it (with that citation) feel free. ~~ [Jam]^[talk] 09:33, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

Ricky

The first two times Ricky appeared (22 April and 15 May 2009) he was played by Sam Attwater, but in next week's TV Times it says he will be played by someone called Ashley Margolis. Does anyone know which is right, please? I hope they didn't sack Sam just because he has a big mole on his cheek! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.75.157.201 (talk) 18:51, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

I'm unsure, I seen a picture of a boy and Anita, however it was not the same boy seen in the previous episodes. I might remind you that Anita lied, claiming she was Theresa, Ricky also lies about something, I think it may be about his appearance. Anita imagined scenes with Ricky and it was Sam Attwater but she was Theresa. I think that's what they'll find to have in common that they lied about who they actually were, therefore I think it will be Ashley Margolis playing him.--°wɧoɳɪvɛʀsɜ 21:20, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

Then again, I have just read Inside Soap and it lists him as Sam Attwater who is playing him. I guess we will just have to wait and see.--°wɧoɳɪvɛʀsɜ 09:11, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

Recurring Characters (2009)

Is it just me or does anyone else think that the recurring characters section is too long? Quite a few characters (Natty, Lydia, Daniel, Abi, Adrian, Caleb and more recently Charlotte) appear in the show a lot and so therefore aren't classed as recurring surely? Lydia is a student at HCC and in a relationship with Sarah, Caleb is Zak and Hayley's brother and Daniel and Abi even have their own flat in Hollyoaks Village and are featured heavily with Ste's storyline.

Also, does anyone know what is going on with Fernando Fernandez? He hasn't been in it since his first appearance in March 2009. -- lgx4, June 14, 2009, 16:02 (BST)

I've already said about this, they deserve to be in the current cast and also deserve separate pages instead of the minor characters at least if not pages of their own. I have attempted to create one for Theresa McQueen but it was deleted. Fernando will make a reappearance later in the Summer I'm sure.--°wɧoɳɪvɛʀsɜ 16:04, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

The reason for the "minor" characters page (as I've said in various places over the years...) is because these characters would fail the notability guidelines for fictional characters. As nearly all these characters have no external content (aside from the storylines they have been involved in), they do not meet the guidelines for having their own page. ~~ [ジャム]^[t - c] 17:26, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

Removal of Pauline Hay?

I was considering removing Pauline Hay from the recurring characters section. She hasn't been on the show in a while and I doubt she will return. If she does she could always be moved back into it or be added to the Character Changes. It was just a thought because as many people have noticed, the recurring characters seems rather long and I did not want to remove her until someone seconds the thought. Whoniverse93 10:57, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

Too be honest Nana McQueen , Mark Gascoyne , Christine Carpenter, Graham Carpenter and the Inps & DS's shouldnt be there. They only appear on a eposidic basis. Recurring would be more Daniel and Abi Raven... In the show constantly for a short period of time say a month. Raintheone (talk) 23:14, 14 January 2010 (UTC)

Well those characters appear regularly, but are not main characters, with the exception of Nana McQueen and Mark Gascoyne, since they have not appeared for quite a while. The others are more like recurring characters. I think Nana and Mark should be removed and for any other character who has not made appearances in a few months also. I think Natty should be moved to recurring characters. He doesn't seem to have a main role in the show and hasn't been appeared for ages. Whoniverse93 (talk) 19:53, 15 January 2010 (UTC)

Debut

Debut 2005... looked better when it read a duration kind of thing. 2005, 2006-.. ... . It makes you think Cindy has been with the show for more years than she has. Raintheone (talk) 23:09, 14 January 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, when I changed it, I thought I would try it out for a bit, just to see how it looked, but I agree it doesn't look as good as Duration. One thing I don't really want to be changed is the Actors and Previous actors parts in the table. It used to list previous actors in the same column and their durations in another. I just think we should stick to the actual character's durations and not the actors. Whoniverse93 (talk) 19:53, 15 January 2010 (UTC)

Tania Verani is non-existant

Stop editing Eva's name, it's Eva. Eva only. Eva. Eva. I wish fans of the show would understand now. Eva. That's who Sheree Murphy is playing, Tania Varani was a misquote, from the Sun newspaper. Look on the Hollyoaks official website if you don't believe me. I've had to revert this vandalising edit for atleast 17 times.RAIN the ONE (Talk) 17:35, 19 March 2010 (UTC)

RECURRING OR REGULAR?

Right... Meriel Vaughn, Kyle Ryder. Maybe Martin. Recurring is a character not part of the permanent cast. These characters don't have character pages on the official website. Not listed as part of the main cast. Also maybe it's time to remove Sheila, can't really see any evidance of her returning.RAIN the ONE (Talk) 18:55, 9 July 2010 (UTC)

I've been thinking about removing Sheila for a while, she hasn't appeared since 5 March. It's one of those things that I'm hesitant about though, since it's unsourced it's likely to be reverted. Annoying. Totally in support of all your proposals though. Ooh, Fruity Ooh, Chatty 20:07, 9 July 2010 (UTC)

Macca? And the Davenports.

Hi. I think Macca should be removed from the characters as he was only in it for one week and when Brendan returned, he suddenly disappeared and Brendan was shown was washing blood off his hands. He was either killed or beaten up badly till he went home. Also, the Davenports - I wouldn't count Arlo and Helen as main characters. I'd put them as recurring, because we've only seen them a few times and they're not living in Hollyoaks and haven't had storylines of their own, they're just part of Taylor's storyline. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 149.157.1.154 (talk) 13:58, 30 October 2010 (UTC)

I agree with your points, I'll update the article. LostHavoc(talk) 14:12, 30 October 2010 (UTC)

Kevin Smith problem

This character was due to depart on-screen today. However he did not... his scenes were replaced with fresh filmed scenes with Dom, Warren, Mandy and Tony... So what date did Kevin last appear? (It was when Brendan had ago at him, need the date.)RAIN..the..ONE ^HOTLINE 22:42, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

Last Thursday, 4 November, was his last appearance so far. Ooh, Fruity Ooh, Chatty 22:44, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

I noticed Digital Spy's episodes were wrong. Do you think that was his last episode? It seems rather odd that they would scrap his exit scenes. LostHavoc(talk) 22:45, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

I'm not sure, they could slot it in next week sometime or even in thurs and fridays's episodes. DS have taken their spoiler back, fridays spoiler is now in place for the episode we saw tonight... :S (I don't know if you knew there was a clip of Amy dying that leaked onto youtube.. maybe it was because of that.) Mandy has been filming scenes over the last few weeks, they took the place of a storyline in which Taylor tells Helen and Arlo that Phil is his dad... a few weeks back Daniel Kilkelly, the soaps reporter on DS messaged me and said they cut a big SL out and shoved in Mitzee/Duncan driving scenes in place, he also confirmed Darren Day filmed scenes as Danny finding Rhys and Jacqui the same day.. so basically anything can happen here. So I'm not even going to update SL's from spoilers from the same week anymore... thanks Fruity for getting Kevins last appaerance to date.RAIN..the..ONE ^HOTLINE 23:01, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

Shall we take it for sure he has left now, with Elliot gone and everything?RAIN..the..ONE ^HOTLINE 21:34, 12 November 2010 (UTC)

Martin Campbell

Martin Campbell? A regular character? Seriously? Even when he was in it, I would only have put him down as recurring, because we didn't see a lot of him and the storyline was more about Ricky. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.45.111.22 (talk) 00:25, 21 November 2010 (UTC)

That's true, but it depends if he will appear again. I think it's best to leave him until Ricky comes back, then we should decide whether to move him to recurring. LostHavoc(talk) 16:06, 22 November 2010 (UTC)

Edit request to 'Arriving Characters'

{{Edit semi-protected}} The actor playing new character 'Tamara' is currently listed as 'TBA (to be affirmed)' The actor that is playing this character is called Harry Bradshaw, could someone who is able to edit this?

Sources - http://www.locatetv.com/tv/hollyoaks/6956749 http://www.uk.castingcallpro.com/view.php?uid=223290

JellyBean-Skye (talk) 00:05, 27 December 2010 (UTC)

Done, thanks. Adrian J. Hunter^{(talk•contribs)} 13:54, 28 December 2010 (UTC)

Mitzeee

It's not Mitzeee Minniver, it's just Mitzeee. "Minniver" is used to make up part of Mitzeee. It's like Jordan, also called Katie Price, but no-one ever calls her Jordan Price. It's her career name. On the credits, they always just display "Mitzeee", never "Mitzeee Minniver". —Preceding unsigned comment added by 149.157.1.154 (talk) 20:05, 19 January 2011 (UTC)

You have a point actually. But as I've watched Hollyoaks closely, she didn't use her second name to make the name of Mitzeee. ;)RAIN..the..ONE ^HOTLINE 20:48, 19 January 2011 (UTC)

It's been implied in an interview. I watch it very closely too.. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.40.188.25 (talk) 02:12, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

"Lukasz"

Oh my God. I can't believe you fell for that! It was an April Fool's Day joke! These things should be confirmed by Lime Pictures or Channel 4 before they go up here. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 149.157.1.180 (talk) 22:22, 1 April 2011 (UTC)

Peter Mitchel

I was wondering, the guy who plays Pete Hamil, he maybe shuld have a page created - he is a former professional footballer until his accedent, there is plenty of uesful reference material at the following address http://www.channel4.com/programmes/cast-offs/articles/profile-peter-mitchell-dan it is a source about his football, wheelchair basketball, and then his role in castoffs, and then his role about hollyoaks could be added. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.146.32.200 (talk) 10:28, 27 March 2011 (UTC)

You will need to find some sources on his whole career before starting it. But I'll look into this later if you like.Rain the 1 ^BAM 18:42, 30 March 2011 (UTC)

i think we need to update the arriving list and the returning list, because libertys family are coming to —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.212.85.212 (talk) 18:20, 30 March 2011 (UTC)

No we don't because if you look at the arriving list you will see they are there already.Rain the 1 ^BAM 18:42, 30 March 2011 (UTC)

yeah but it keeps being changed back to the old list

Hmm, I just checked the history and the Savage family have not been removed from the list at all.Rain the 1 ^BAM 19:34, 30 March 2011 (UTC)

yeah and suzanne ashworth left with her twins and it keeps coming up on that there still there —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.212.85.212 (talk) 21:02, 30 March 2011 (UTC)

I think some people were confused if she is comjing back or not because Andrew Moss implied she had done some more filming. Why don't you join and get to know the ropes and help Hollyoaks articles out? :) You seem to know your stuff about Hollyoaks.Rain the 1 ^BAM 21:06, 30 March 2011 (UTC)

Back to Peter, his first appearance seems to be in Cast offs, and this was after the car accedent that ended his football career, all confirmed in the following interview- http://www.bbc.co.uk/ouch/features/interview_with_new_hollyoaks_actor_peter.shtml scroll half way down to find peter's interview. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.146.36.151 (talk) 08:37, 2 April 2011 (UTC)

Another Reference showing he played for leeds, and went on to castoffs, http://www.leedsunited.com/news/20091123/former-united-youngster-on-small-screen_2247585_1884127 directly from leeds' website. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.146.36.151 (talk) 13:26, 2 April 2011 (UTC)

? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.150.253.30 (talk) 15:41, 14 April 2011 (UTC)

A few questions...

Mandy is listed as having been in the program from 2010-, but shouldnt it be 2010, 2011- ? After all, her first 2011 appearance was in April.

Both Jacqui and Gilly have temporarily departed (with Jacqui living in Spain, and Gilly living somewhere else too) so why are they in the current characters section? Shouldnt they be in the departed or returning charaters section? Vuvuzela2010 (talk) 15:11, 30 April 2011 (UTC)

Gilly and Jacqui are both under contract with the serial - they are still part of it. Spoilers indicate Jacqui for one is secretly in hospital atm - not in Spain. Therefore there duration is not changed, they just haven't appeared for a few weeks which is common practise when actors take holidays etc. Mandy only went on a little break, one month to do a play - but it played out a little longer. So the information is correct.Rain the 1 ^BAM 16:07, 30 April 2011 (UTC)

Gaz Bennett

Hi fellow users I was just wondering if Gaz Bennett is still apart of the Hollyoaks cast? ,Its been quiet a while since his last appearance and he no longer appears in the opening of the start of each episode, has he been axed on the quiet? Crazyfishsticks (talk) 23:32, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

He might have been - but Gaz has never been in the credits. We need to wait for a source confirming something.RaintheOne ^BAM 23:55, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

He was actually in the older version i remember it very clearly Crazyfishsticks (talk) 00:07, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

No - Gaz has never been in the opening titles. That is a fact.RaintheOne ^BAM 00:31, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

Was Gaz's latest appearance not also the latest appearance of Rae? And she is still in the titles, even though she could have been removed from them like Finn and Jamil were (same goes for Gilly). So my opinion would be not to remove him just yet. Vuvuzela2010 (talk) 18:26, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

Move? Or Reorganise?

I think that, due to the current inclusion critera being whether or not the cast member is still with the show, not the character, this page should be moved to List of Hollyoaks cast members, and the Present characters section be renamed to Present cast. Alternatively, if the page cannot be moved, I think that if a character leaves the show, or if an actor or actress leaves the show (for maternity leave, a break, or whatever reason) this should be reflected in the article. This is the case with the lists of characters for Coronation Street, Emmerdale, and EastIanders, so I'm not sure why it's not done here.

For example, while Anthony Quinlan may still be signed to the show and be considered to be a current cast member, it is a bit of a stretch to consider Gilly a present character, as he has not made an appearance since April. He does appear in the titles, but so did Archie Carpenter after his departure, so I dont think it is a good way of telling. Tony, Mandy, Cindy and the Dissapearing Dirk were also listed here as current characters, despite the character's months-long absences. For Cindy, I should add that while she is listed here as being present from 2008-, this contradicts what is stated on her own page, where it states the following in regards her maternity leave:

In 2010, Waring became pregnant and her character was temporarily written out for Waring's maternity leave. Waring confirmed on her Twitter page at the beginning of December that she had received scripts for her return to the show. She returned to filming in January 2011 and returned on 9 March 2011.

Another idea I had was that an additional column could be added to the template stating the characters current storyline status, either current or hiatus, though I think this would end up requiring a silly amount of editing, not to mention conflicts regarding which characters are on hiatus, etc. Vuvuzela2010 (talk) 16:51, 3 September 2011 (UTC)

Cindy was probably removed and added to returning while on maternity but as is the case for Eastenders and other soaps while on a short break the duration is still 2008- not 2008-2010, 2011- like on Bianca Jackson's duration. As for the storyline status i don't think that's needed as other soap's don't do it and it would become a matter of opinion not fact. Gilly is a special case but he hasn't officially left so shouldn't be put on returning. Character's are sometimes off screen for other reason's and aren't removed and put on returning e.g. Betty Williams has been off-screen a while but is still present. D4nnyw14 (talk) 19:00, 3 September 2011 (UTC)

I see where you are coming from - Though, Cindy was listed as returning whilst away - Like Bianca Jackson and Jane Beale are on the EastEnders list. Though you may notice their duration remains constant. However it is not that confusing when you think about the character from the real world perpective. Aka - Cindy was part of storyline conferences, scripts, part of Hollyoaks in general - but the character was not onscreen for a couple of months. The actress was still in contract. The additional column is just not needed IMO - more so the title is fine, this is a list of characters. I do not see why the page should be moved to a title focusing on cast members becuase of the inuniverse on/off screen status of two or three characters. Now... Gilly. This is a different story, maybe Gilly should be moved to returning. I'll ask some other people to what they think on that characters status.RaintheOne ^BAM 19:55, 5 September 2011 (UTC)

As regards Cindy the reason for changing her duration seems to be because on other soaps the duration for temporarily departed characters seems to be keep the duration unbroken. I should add that in Eastenders Bianca left the show in January and is due to return at the end of the year from her maternity leave i.e. she departed and returned the same year. Cindy on the other hand departed in September 2010 and returned in March 2011 i.e. she left one year and came back the next year. Surely that should be taken into account in my opinion. Also Eastenders is a completely different show and on the Wikipedia page for it the character's list does not have a duration column so why should this list follow the Eastenders lists template on recording durations when they don't record theirs themselves?82.38.41.198 (talk) 16:31, 23 September 2011 (UTC)

Look, the real world perspective is Waring was in contract with Hollyoaks and the character was never dropped from the series - the in universe look (Which you seem to enjoy) she went on a long honeymoon. Either way it works.... and Eastenders??? Stop using WP:OTHERSTUFF to justify your view, because it doesn't have a place in this context.RaintheOne ^BAM 16:54, 23 September 2011 (UTC)

Character names

An (anonymous) editor changed back the name shown for Mercedes to Mercedes Fisher, but her page name is Mercedes McQueen, so shouldnt this be the name shown? Vuvuzela2010 (talk) 20:20, 24 September 2011 (UTC)

I want a source for Tony's "exit"

Tony has beeen removed from this page and added to the past characters page, but when was it ever mentioned he (the actor) was leaving? Vuvuzela2010 (talk) 23:36, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

Don't worry, he should not of been removed. It was a IP adress that removed him on the quiet. Tony won't be on-screen for a while because of Nick's mini break, but he is still part of the cast and be back soon.Rain the 1 ^BAM 00:16, 28 May 2011 (UTC)

warren is leaving so will he be put in the departing list? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.219.229.121 (talk) 15:20, 23 August 2011 (UTC)

riley costello has been moved to the departed section on the hollyoaks website — Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.212.85.216 (talk) 00:03, 5 January 2012 (UTC)

Lynsey Nolan

Has Lynsey left or not? --EastStreet Lover, Soap Researcher :-) (talk) 20:16, 26 July 2012 (UTC)

Well you removed it without letting it be discussed - I'll restore the earlier version. She said more scenes - where is the reveal scenes about who her killer is?Rain the 1 21:30, 26 July 2012 (UTC)

silas blisset

whats the current status of silas it states hes a present cast member but has he not left the show or atleast recurring? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cdaly2012 (talk • contribs) 23:37, 6 August 2012 (UTC)

At the moment Silas is present as far as we know, no source can confirm whether he has departed yet, it seems to have been left open ended. He is still listed as present on the Hollyoaks website which usually confirms if a character has departed. D4nnyw14 (talk) 23:43, 6 August 2012 (UTC)

Finn O'Connor

should Finn o Connor be removed from main cast to departed or at least recurring? he hasn't appeared in almost a year now and Emmma smitwick confirmed in an interview with digital spy there's currently no plans to have him on screen? so he defiantly isn't part of the regular cast anymore. (Cdaly2012 (talk) 17:54, 29 August 2012 (UTC))

Yep, Finn should be past, i'll move him now as she said there are no plans for him to appear again. D4nnyw14 (talk) 19:51, 29 August 2012 (UTC)

Doug Carter

Now that Doug has been deleted from the opening credits, does this mean that he has now left altogether? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.210.139.213 (talk) 19:35, 16 October 2012 (UTC)

Table format

Would anyone object to losing the previous actors column and making the list similar to the EastEnders one? HO has three recasted characters in the regulars table at the top, meaning there is a whole load of empty cells taking up the rest of the page. The new format would eliminate that and it doesn't look half bad. - JuneGloom Talk 20:06, 14 November 2012 (UTC)

That'd probably be more sensible, go for it if you think it's for the best. D4nnyw14 (talk) 20:18, 14 November 2012 (UTC)

I'll change the tables and then if you hate the layout, you can always change it back. - JuneGloom Talk 21:20, 14 November 2012 (UTC)

It looks better without all the white space. D4nnyw14 (talk) 21:35, 14 November 2012 (UTC)

It certainly does look better, I'm glad it has been changed.Rain the 1 23:56, 14 November 2012 (UTC)

Ellie/Anna Savage

From Tomorrow should the character of Ellie/ Anna be added to the current cast under Ellie or Anna Savage as it has not been revealed on screen her identity yet? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cdaly2012 (talk • contribs) 21:24, 4 March 2013 (UTC)

No not really. Just keep it as Anna Savage.Rain the 1 23:06, 4 March 2013 (UTC)

Connie Carter

I have edited out Connie as she appeared for Doug's funeral and was not seen since. I was putting that but saved before I had finished. --#Soaper1234 (talk) 17:27, 6 November 2013 (UTC)

Duration

With Will returning and Amy possibly still about too, why are they listed like this:

Character	Actor	Duration
Amy Barnes	Ashley Slanina-Davies	2005 -
Will Savage	James Atherton	2011 -

This implies they've been in the show continuously, when obviously, they haven't, they left the show and came back later. Shouldn't the table represent the time they were contracted to the show like this:

Character	Actor	Duration
Amy Barnes	Ashley Slanina-Davies	2005 - 2012, 2013, 2014 -
Will Savage	James Atherton	2011 - 2013, 2014 -

Say the case of Cindy (a popular example it seems!) as being:

Character	Actor	Duration
Cindy Cunningham	Stephanie Waring	1996 - 2001, 2002, 2004, 2008 -

all readers know when she was in the show. With Amy and Will, it's impossible to know just by reading the table in its current form. In say for example, the Emmerdale list of characters, it's displayed as and when the characters appear.

Character	Actor	Duration
Nicola King	Nicola Wheeler	2001–06, 2007–
Rhona Goskirk	Zoe Henry	2001, 2002, 2010–
Chas Dingle	Lucy Pargeter	2002, 2003–

Just wondering why the Hollyoaks table is formatted the way it is. Which one is correct Hollyoaks or Emmerdale? Jimmy3797 (talk) 15:55, 31 December 2014 (UTC)

Diego

Diego is credited as Diego Salvador Martinez Hernandez De La Cruz, so should be listed as that here. ThisIsDanny (talk) 08:29, 16 December 2015 (UTC)

Ella Richardson

Should Ella not be placed with the regular characters as her positioning in the credits says she is a regular.82.132.187.235 (talk) 00:24, 5 August 2017 (UTC)

Child actors as regulars

Hello. It has recently come to my attention that some child characters are being included in the regular characters section of the page, despite being played by child actors. As child actors, these characters cannot appear in a regular capacity and will only appear in a recurring capacity. Basically, I believe that the following characters should be moved to 'Recurring and guest characters' as they only appear in a recurring capacity:

• Charlie Dean (Charlie Behan)
• Leah Barnes (Elà-May Demircan)
• Ella Richardson (Erin Palmer)
• Lucas Hay (William Hall)
• Oscar Osborne (Noah Holdsworth)
• Toby Wilde (Lucas Haywood)

I'm sure that the general consensus about this issue is that when actors turn 16, they join the regular cast as legally, they are unable to film many hours before that age. If there are any other actors that are under 16, they should be included in my list too, but these were the only ones I thought were. To add, I understand why this selection of characters appear in 'Regular characters' (because they are featured in the opening titles), but I don't believe this makes them regular characters. However, rather than immediately removing them, I thought I would generate opinion here first. Soaper1234 - talk 17:02, 15 April 2018 (UTC)

I agree, I think they should be down in the recurring section. I believe the only reason why they're not is the position they appear in the credits? I might be wrong though. But even so, the rule about being 16 should override this. ThisIsDanny (talk) 17:22, 15 April 2018 (UTC)

Then the same will have to be done with Home and Away an Neighbours. As for H&A; Raffy, Ryder and CoCo are all in the main cast and in Neighbours; Nell, Jimmy and Krishna are all credited as regulars. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.132.219.131 (talk) 17:58, 15 April 2018 (UTC)

What happens with Home and Away and Neighbours articles is irrespective to this article. @ThisIsDanny: Ah, I see. I still feel they should be in the recurring section. Thank you for your support. Soaper1234 - talk 21:20, 15 April 2018 (UTC)

Since this has not generated anymore discussion and the result from those discussing it was support, I am going to proceed with the change. Soaper1234 - talk 15:23, 27 April 2018 (UTC)

Brooke Hathaway

I accidentally put 'dep' for departure, when I actually meant 'deb' for debut. I just thought I'd clarify that to prevent confusion. User321a (talk) 17:39, 5 May 2018 (UTC)

Victoria Blake

I fixed a link with regards to Victoria, but when I made my edit summary, I accidentally put "Fux" when I was meant to put "Fix". I clicked save before I realized my mistake, and thus it was too late. I just thought I would clarify that I did mean "Fix". Rather than leave it, I just wanted to clarify what I actually meant. User321a (talk) 17:42, 21 June 2018 (UTC)

Previous actors

To non-viewers of the show, it would seem that a few characters, namely Darren, Cindy, Holly and Finn, are played by multiple actors. As this list reflects present characters and the actors who portray them, should former actors be listed at all except in the individual character articles? After all, there is no obligation to include all actors as the list is character-based rather than actor-based. As it stands, it would make more sense to rename the article 'List of present Hollyoaks cast members' - but it may be easier perhaps to just review the inclusion of former actors, as it is rather superfluous. 2.24.47.157 (talk) 20:43, 27 August 2013 (UTC)

I view it as understandable in the current format. It does not matter who currently plays the role. The field is merely listing the artist who took the role. Be that one or three. The old age conversation about "list of cast members vs characters" has generally favoured the focus being on the characters. I would sooner remove all actors than just include current ones. When writing about fiction it is accepted that the focus should be from the real world perspective. So adding actors and duration dates helps. It is a reference list with all the complete basic information.Rain the 1 20:48, 27 August 2013 (UTC)

The whole list is based on current episodes though, complete with cast changes etc. Therefore it seems odd that actors that have long since left their roles are listed. The fact that Laura Crossley played Cindy briefly in 1996 has no bearing on the show today or a list of the current characters, it is only of relevance to that particular character. 2.24.47.157 (talk) 21:08, 27 August 2013 (UTC)

Without the previous actors it will look like Ashley Taylor Dawson has been playing Darren since 1996. ThisIsDanny (talk) 21:11, 27 August 2013 (UTC)

It's better than having it look like several actors are playing the same character at once. However, another idea would be a 'notes of interest' section and flag the relevant characters. Alternatively, do as the Americans do and alter the duration (but I don't think that suggestion will go down well). 2.24.47.157 (talk) 21:18, 27 August 2013 (UTC)

I think it is perfect the way it is. Anything else becomes overly complicating. It used to have more information than it does now - as did similar lists. Anything else causes content disputes and has not really been productive. So that is how it went to basic info lists. There is a past characters list but it is deemed to difficult to main the list all together. Plus the "past character" list is overly long IMO. I think it has everything to do with a list of characters. I think it is silly to exclude previos actors. You picked on Cindy, but more than one character has been played by a previous actor. I am sure you have helped though - the general reader you are worried about can read this and know the who is currently playing who.Rain the 1 23:52, 27 August 2013 (UTC)

I think on the list of present characters that the actors playing them now should only be credited Pdineen03 (talk) 19:18, 1 July 2018 (UTC)

Reference actors

I'm putting forward a suggestion on whether or not to reference a few actors, like with the List of Coronation Street characters, and List of Emmerdale characters. This is merely a suggestion, and I would like to know your thoughts. A response would be greatly appreciated. User321a (talk) 20:34, 7 September 2018 (UTC)

I'm not quite sure what you mean? Soaper1234 - talk 20:45, 7 September 2018 (UTC)

Like adding a source for an actor, like for example, Charlie Munro Joyce, who plays Carl Holliday in Emmerdale. His name on the Emmerdale list is referenced. You'll see what I mean. User321a (talk) 21:03, 7 September 2018 (UTC)

I think the adding of a source is only needed when an actor isn't credited. Soaper1234 - talk 21:17, 7 September 2018 (UTC)

I think the refs in the Emmerdale list are all for recast children. Ideally the refs would be present in the article/section of that character, so they should be moved over. - JuneGloom07 Talk 00:22, 8 September 2018 (UTC)

Would that apply to the Coronation Street list aswell? User321a (talk) 07:19, 8 September 2018 (UTC)

I assume so, I haven't looked at them. I've moved/removed the Emmerdale ones. - JuneGloom07 Talk 19:15, 8 September 2018 (UTC)

Ok. User321a (talk) 10:10, 9 September 2018 (UTC)

@JuneGloom07: I have applied the same change to the Coronation Street list that you applied to Emmerdale. The references featured in the Coronation Street list were already present in the articles, which is why I have removed them. Like you say, sources really belong in the character articles, and not the cast members lists. User321a (talk) 13:13, 9 September 2018 (UTC)

What about the List of Neighbours characters? There are refs in the description at the top. I am not sure whether they should be moved to the main Neighbours article, rather than the cast list. User321a (talk) 15:31, 10 September 2018 (UTC)

Slightly different situation there. The refs are supporting the claims made in the lead, so shouldn't be moved. - JuneGloom07 Talk 13:21, 11 September 2018 (UTC)

Ok, thanks User321a (talk) 16:15, 11 September 2018 (UTC)

Cast changes.

I have come up with the suggestion of removing departure, return and arrival dates from the cast changes section on this list. The reason why I am suggesting this is because there are loads of unsourced dates being added. It seems to be working for the List of EastEnders characters. Please let me know about your thoughts on the suggestion. It could really save time for Wikipedia users as they won't have to keep reverting the addition of unsourced dates. User321a (talk) 18:47, 24 October 2018 (UTC)

I have had to revert another addition of unsourced dates added by an IP. I think the above suggestion is a good idea for the reasons mentioned above. A response would be greatly appreciated. User321a (talk) 07:35, 28 October 2018 (UTC)

It could work. Although this is nothing new and it just needs enough people watching the list to prevent false information from being added. It is a shame a few ruin it for all as the dates are sometimes useful to know.Rain the 1 18:20, 28 October 2018 (UTC)

I was wondering if we could try it out, and see how it plays out. It's worked for EastEnders, so what is to say that it won't work for the others? User321a (talk) 21:12, 30 October 2018 (UTC)

While I think it is a good idea for reducing vandalism, I don't think it would be a good idea for a reader. Like Raintheone has mentioned, it is nice to know the dates. I don't think we should get rid of the dates for the sake of vandalism as there will be always be vandals regardless. Soaper1234 - talk 21:37, 30 October 2018 (UTC)

Well then in that case how come the EastEnders list doesn't feature the dates then? Surely it is for the same reasons that I outlined above. User321a (talk) 21:56, 30 October 2018 (UTC)

I actually think that List of EastEnders characters should use dates, but that's an unrelated personal opinion. I don't fully know, but I presume that that list doesn't use dates due to a consenus that was reached for whatever reason. Soaper1234 - talk 22:09, 30 October 2018 (UTC)

@Soaper1234: I agree, but obviously a consensus was reached to exclude dates on the list, which I presume was because of unsourced dates being added, and to save time as obviously the addition of unsourced dates are constantly reverted, which is why I suggested this. User321a (talk) 19:02, 1 November 2018 (UTC)

Recurring characters

Where's the list of recurring and guest characters gone?77.97.55.147 (talk) 20:08, 30 November 2018 (UTC)

Fixed! Soaper1234 - talk 14:28, 1 December 2018 (UTC)

Azim Desai

Radio Times are crediting him as "Azim Maalik". Is that a mistake on their part?77.97.55.147 (talk) 17:48, 13 September 2019 (UTC)

Probably. Go with what the end credits state. The character was originally called Amit according to his agents website.Rain the 1 08:38, 14 September 2019 (UTC)

Radio Times have now started calling him by his real surname "Desai" now in the weekly cast lists. So it looks like they corrected their own mistake.77.97.55.147 (talk) 00:48, 22 November 2019 (UTC)

Lead

Following the addition of trivia in the lead, I thought I would open a discussion about it here. Firstly, WP:TRIVIA advises against writing out information like this and promotes the information being presented in an organised fashion (i.e. the tables). Secondly, the information was unsourced. I would be all for a good lead for the article as the current lead is poor, but it should contain information about Hollyoaks as well as referenced material about casting and characters. A good example of this can be found at List of Casualty characters and List of Holby City characters. I'm currently working on a draft to source the entire article, so do not mind creating a lead with that. Soaper1234 - talk 08:01, 11 March 2021 (UTC)

I think that the lead that I put was good, as it included the longest running characters, as well as former past long running characters. I tried to source it, but it got removed. Additionally, the durations were left unsourced for years, so I don't understand why it got removed... I honestly do not think that what I put is trivia, because it was simply stating who the longest running characters. In the Casualty List, whilst I think it is a great lead, I think that it is a bit random as it includes info about some characters but not others - so I do not understand why mine got removed and that is okay? Also, the USA soap operas have similar leads and I think that it really suits them. I am just very upset tbh because I worked hard on that and was really proud of it and I got told off for it... :(DaniloDaysOfOurLives (talk) 14:00, 11 March 2021 (UTC)

https://www.radiotimes.com/tv/soaps/who-are-the-longest-serving-actors-in-soap/ - Here is a good source perhaps? DaniloDaysOfOurLives (talk) 14:03, 11 March 2021 (UTC)

The information about the characters, which feature in the first few lines of the table anyway, were unsourced. The actual table is in the process of being sourced, as I mentioned. I would argue that it is trivial as it just odd facts about the top 5 longest-running current characters. In response to the randomness of the Casualty list, I would disagree. In the second paragraph, it explains how the cast works (ensemble, regularly changes), actors appearing in multiple roles, and characters crossovering to other shows. Looking at one US example (List of The Bold and the Beautiful cast members), it is very short and just states the only two original characters left. I would not say you were "told off" for your edit. Instead, I reverted an unsourced edit and opened a discussion about what to do moving forward. Soaper1234 - talk 15:43, 12 March 2021 (UTC)

Character durations changes

Why has the character durations been changed to include pointless words such as "present" and "since"? None of the other soaps have done this on their present characters list. I notice all of the character boxes layouts have also changed too with certain lines being enhanced and made to look thicker than others in a grid pattern. I asked this on another page too but why has this been done?81.96.173.80 (talk) 16:56, 27 May 2021 (UTC)

Pointless? They were added to conform to MOS:DATETOPRES. They have appeared on the character infoboxes for months, so I recently added it onto the list article too to be consistent and conform with the guideline. And on my screens, the grid lines are the same as they've always been, so I'm unsure about that. – DarkGlow • 17:16, 27 May 2021 (UTC)

Odd. On my screen some of the lines look different, like some are slightly thicker than others. I don't know if it's my laptop then? Will the other soaps then start using this template for durations then with the words added? Personally I thought it looked fine previously.81.96.173.80 (talk) 18:16, 27 May 2021 (UTC)

I've slowly introduced "–present" on some Emmerdale character articles, but I'm in no rush to introduce the rule as it's not a pressing issue. I personally prefer "2010–present" to "2010–" but I'm only changing it since there is an MOS guideline for it; I understand people prefer different styles so I respect your opinion and understand there will be a lot of people who dislike the new style, especially considering it has been styled as "2010–" for so long. – DarkGlow • 18:20, 27 May 2021 (UTC)

When it was styled as "2010–" I would have thought it was obvious to most people that the character was a present one as there is no end date. And if the character was in the present characters section too it would also be obvious. If a character was known to be leaving then there would be an end date too. i.e. "2010–2012 etc. Well that's my opinion anyway. As you pointed out, maybe others will think differently. 81.96.173.80 (talk) 21:34, 27 May 2021 (UTC)

I've had a look at the MOS guidance and I see your point now. You are just trying to conform with the website's guidelines. They should have changed it already themselves if they think that.81.96.173.80 (talk) 11:26, 28 May 2021 (UTC)

I still don't understand why Wikipedia have done this though. I still think the durations layout looked fine as it was. I think it's a case of "if it ain't broke, don't fix it."81.96.173.80 (talk) 11:38, 28 May 2021 (UTC)

Page Layout

So are Trish, Shaq, Fergus, Becky, Ali, Nate, Pearl, Olivia and DeMarcus not permanent characters then? And are Prince and Zara's returns not long-term either? And are Eva Hutchinson, PC Franks, Henry Quentin and Lexi not sticking around for long?81.96.173.80 (talk) 15:39, 29 October 2021 (UTC)

Basically replied to this on the Emmerdale page. Although, this isn't really a discussion when it's a Wikipedia guideline. – DarkGlow • 15:44, 29 October 2021 (UTC)

I've responded to the Emmerdale one now. As I said there, on this page a while back it had characters introduced this year formatted as "Since 2021". Would that be acceptable?81.96.173.80 (talk) 18:39, 29 October 2021 (UTC)

I've always been fine with "since 2021" since it's technically correct. Some IP editors have qualms with it and change it to "2021–present" but I don't mind reverting said vandalism. Either "2021" or "since 2021" is fine. I much prefer the layout of the Doctors list to avoid these kinds of troubles lol. – DarkGlow • 18:45, 29 October 2021 (UTC)

I see. The Doctors list just has the date of the first appearance of the character and nothing else. Do you think the other soaps should follow suit?81.96.173.80 (talk) 21:37, 29 October 2021 (UTC)

With "since 2021" that is more clearer as to when the character has appeared onscreen. If it is just "2021" then that might confuse people and think that is the character's duration and they are not going to be around permanently. I presume when 2022 begins the list will be changed to say "2021–present"? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.96.173.80 (talk) 21:39, 29 October 2021 (UTC)

I'd fully support a change from duration to first appearance; I personally find it much more concise. To do that, there'd need to be a discussion to hear other viewpoints on it. Something to take into consideration is that the former lists would need to be changed too for consistency… and that's a lot of work which I CBA to do. But yes, once it's 1 January 2022, they could be changed to "2021–present". – DarkGlow • 21:45, 29 October 2021 (UTC)

I see. Thanks for explaining. I guess we'll have to wait and see.81.96.173.80 (talk) 00:55, 30 October 2021 (UTC)

Nana McQueen

How come Nana McQueen doesn’t have a main article 46.69.164.144 (talk) 02:42, 27 December 2021 (UTC)

Who is Godfrey?

Just curious, who is Godfrey listed in recurring characters? I can't find any reference to this character online. 2A02:C7E:59B8:E900:C81A:93A7:DB6C:141C (talk) 17:35, 28 August 2022 (UTC)

God knows. Thanks for bringing it to my attention, I've removed him. Perhaps he's included in Norma's plot, although no sources back his existence up, so I've removed him. – Meena • 17:58, 28 August 2022 (UTC)

Vandalism

The page has been vandalized. Can somebody please revert it to how it was?80.189.177.77 (talk) 18:32, 19 December 2022 (UTC)