Talk:List of Fire Emblem Awakening characters
Latest comment: 7 years ago by Sakura Cartelet in topic Merging of the Fire Emblem character articles
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Merging for Oppose edit
I think this Character List page shouldn't be merged to Fire Emblem Awakening and should be keeped as a Seperate Page.DigiPen92 (talk) 21:58, 13 March 2014 (UTC)
- Why do you think it shouldn't be merged? I think it should be merged because the list is largely uncited, and expands on a topic that could be adequately summarized in the main article. The list serves mostly as fancruft, useful only to a very small majority of readers which might be interested in the game. --Odie5533 (talk) 16:20, 30 March 2014 (UTC)
- I agree. While I understand the fandom's interest in keeping them separate, there is nothing about the list that suggests that it has so much worth that it needs to be separate. - New Age Retro Hippie (talk) (contributions) 10:00, 24 April 2014 (UTC)
- I too think that this page shouldn't be merged. My point is: That's a lot of characters in the game, and if we merge to the main page, the latter would be too extense,and with information that would not be so usefulful for readers looking for an overview of the game. The hardcore fans who came to wikipedia looking for references for 100% completion would use the separated page. Besides, this pratice (a separate page listing characters of a work ) is widely used across wikipedia -- HValle(talk) 12:50, 16 May 2014 (UTC)
- e.g. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Persona_4_characters, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Characters_of_Final_Fantasy_VI, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Tales_of_Symphonia_characters.-- HValle (talk) 12:50, 16 May 2014 (UTC)
- That doesn't mean that they are representative of an ideal situation on this Wiki. Of those, one of the articles is in the same position this one is in, while the others justify themselves not as useful tools but notable subjects. This listing of characters should not be merged but rather trimmed down as much as possible to the most important characters and merged. A list to the extent of this one simply shouldn't exist unless it's notable enough. Otherwise, it's assumed that the most important characters can be adequately summed up in the plot section. - New Age Retro Hippie (talk) (contributions) 11:06, 5 June 2014 (UTC)
- I agree. While I understand the fandom's interest in keeping them separate, there is nothing about the list that suggests that it has so much worth that it needs to be separate. - New Age Retro Hippie (talk) (contributions) 10:00, 24 April 2014 (UTC)
- I'd agree that all Fire Emblem character lists need to be merged. While the standard route would be to merge to a common list for the whole series, I think the game's plot sections should rather be the redirect target. Blake (Talk·Edits) 04:11, 6 June 2014 (UTC)
Merging of the Fire Emblem character articles edit
Should the list of character articles be kept as redirects or reverted and expanded into actual articles? Right now the articles seem to have no third party sources for them and contain a decent amount of trivia in them, however there doesn't seem to be anything that prevents the character articles from being expanded or trimmed down so they are more inline with policy. Sakuura Cartelet Talk 16:57, 10 April 2017 (UTC)
- Without any secondary reliable sourcing, or claims that such sourcing exists, it doesn't appear that notability is established. Notability really isn't a policy that can be "improved" by expanding or trimming the article. For that matter, WP:V can't really be ignored either. -- ferret (talk) 17:07, 10 April 2017 (UTC)
- How is a complete lack of third party sources not a preventing factor for you? Sergecross73 msg me 17:13, 10 April 2017 (UTC)
- Keep it merged - Since the article's inception in 2013, there have been zero third party sources ever present in the article, or provided in any of the talk page discussions. The article was tagged for needing sources and a rewrite since late 2013/early 2014. This was never addressed. The discussion directly above, in early 2014, had a consensus to merge. In 2015, I redirected the page, and the parent article, Fire Emblem Awakening, was made into a GA, showing that the characters could be covered just fine there. It's been a redirect since. The article is not necessary, nor does it contain the required sourcing. Sergecross73 msg me 17:13, 10 April 2017 (UTC)
- What kind of sourcing would an article like this need to be "good enough" for an independent article or even perhaps an article that summarized the main characters in the Fire Emblem series? Maybe list of notable Fire Emblem characters would work? Also the parent article while fairly good doesn't have enough information that is covered here to be useful to people wanting to find out information about characters in the game beyond the cursory explanation given in the "Good Article". Sakuura Cartelet Talk 20:55, 10 April 2017 (UTC)