Talk:Lena Dunham

Latest comment: 4 months ago by Jnestorius in topic Tiffany

Extinction of white males

edit

Why is Ms Dunham cheering for the "extinction of white males" in a conversation with her father that has been posted on Twitter not included in the article? The last time I raised this question the Wiki mods told me that couldn't be included in the article because it wasn't reported by any "reputable source" and that Breitbart wasn't one - as if Breitbart had fabricated the tweet posted by Ms Dunham. I ask you, why do numerous other Wikipedia articles have videos as references? --92.81.183.119 (talk) 05:49, 20 February 2019 (UTC)Reply

Still at it, eh? Over two years later? When this non-event happened, Breitbart was just one of countless bad sources, but since then it's been bumped down to a special class of terrible. Since it it has a history of fabricating and exaggerating information, Breitbart has explicitly been banned as a source for factual information on Wikipedia, per Wikipedia:BREITBART.
Even if you put the word videos in bold, the format of a source is not what makes it reliable or unreliable. Not every stupid twitter drama belongs. We know that these tweets happened, but we don't care, because reliable sources don't care. If there is a reliable source which explains this, and shows how this is more than just another celebrity fart, I haven't seen it yet, and don't expect to. Grayfell (talk) 07:07, 20 February 2019 (UTC)Reply
A public figure calling for the extinction of a race and gender is a non-event? Would you also dismiss say, a white, male public figure calling for the extinction of black females as a "stupid twitter drama"?
You said Wikipedia rules prevent Twitter from being used as a direct source. I guess that rule applies only where you want it to, but never mind that.
Here's a "better" source than Breitbart (even though they both do the same thing, which is reporting the existence of Ms Dunham's video). I'll assume you'll also dismiss this source because "it doesn't prove it's more than a celebrity fart". In that case, would you mind going on record and saying that Lena Dunham calling for the extinction of white males is trivial information? Just so we know where Wikipedia stands on journalistic integrity and nonpartisanship. --92.81.183.119 (talk) 12:29, 1 March 2019 (UTC)Reply

I think we needed some proof the video actually exists. 2A00:23C7:E284:CF00:E449:8E71:2FA7:4E64 (talk) 22:51, 21 April 2021 (UTC)Reply

White men can't understand what it's like to be under attack

edit

As far as I can tell this is a straw man attack against her started by Turningpoint USA, when I added this to the controversy section it was removed because turning point are not a reliable source

It is a silly idea anyway. Though it does seem like something a trendy, shallow leftist would say, she can not be quoted as saying it without a reliable source. 213.205.240.196 (talk) 22:48, 21 April 2021 (UTC)Reply

Drag Race appearance

edit

I don't think her bio (or Filmography) mentions her appearance as a guest judge on Drag Race ("Evil Twins"), if that's worth adding. Thanks! ---Another Believer (Talk) 01:06, 3 March 2024 (UTC)Reply

Tiffany

edit

I have removed the statement "The Dunham family are cousins of the Tiffany family, prominent in the jewelry trade." The source was Julie Burchill "The faux feminism of Lena Dunham" in The Spectator where the context is "she’s over-privileged ... she was born into liberal money – her family are related to the actual Tiffany family, as in ‘Breakfast At’ – and expensively and lengthily educated." There is perhaps room in the "Controversy and criticism" for a statement that "some critics think she is overprivileged to make social commentary", but relying on a single hitpiece is inappropriate. The fact that the Dunhams were WASPs is already mentioned elsewhere; perhaps more could be said, but the Tiffany connection is too tendentious to add useful detail. The relation is remote and by marriage: Lena's grt-grt-grt-granduncle married the Tiffany founder's niece.

The Tiffanys of America : History and genealogy pp. 37-38
  • Comfort Tiffany
    • Charles Lewis Tiffany b.1812
    • Eliza Tiffany b.1803 m 1827 Nathan Brewster Morse
      • Charlotte Tiffany Morse b.1832 m. James L. Dunham
Dunham genealogy pp. 258-259
  • Edward W. Dunham b.1794
    • James L. Dunham b.1826 m.1851 Charlotte Tiffany Morse
    • Carroll Dunham (I) b.1828

jnestorius(talk) 00:37, 11 July 2024 (UTC)Reply