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Q281 edit

Going back to the time of David Lloyd's early test career.

Why was an 'Orse initially bad for an Alley's 'eart?164.36.142.217 14:07, 12 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Forgot to say.... That was me posting from work!WillE 22:52, 12 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I guess I'm not the only one who's stumped. --Dweller 09:06, 13 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]


Is this something to do with Bill Alley? I think he an umpire in the early 1970s. -- ALoan (Talk) 10:39, 13 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Bill Alley made his debut as an umpire at the Edgbaston Test between England and India in 1974. SM Gavaskar edged the first ball from 'Horse' Arnold to Alan Knott and walked before Alley had time to raise his finger. Alley later complained to Gavaskar about it. (Btw, an umpire giving a batsman out off the first ball of his career is extremely rare. There is a possible instance from c.1930 of this, otherwise Alley's is a unique feat). WillE could be referring to this incident. Tintin (talk) 11:04, 13 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Jeremy Lloyds also did this, I believe. [1]. Sam Korn (smoddy) 11:31, 13 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, Lloyd's is one too. From the scorecard and b-by-b, Lloyds was the umpire in the first over. One or two years back, when there was nothing better to do, I looked for this through all instances when a wicket fell off the first ball of the match. The other one was Christchurch 1932-33 where Sutcliffe was caught behind off the first ball and both umpires were making their debut. There are one or two other instances when the umpires were not required to give a decision (the batsman was bowled or caught by a non-wicketkeeper). Tintin (talk) 11:51, 13 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
The knowledgeeable Tintin impresses me once again. Having got a decision with the first ball of the match 3 or 4 times as a bowler, and having had to give a decision first ball five times as an umpire, I think it is a heart stopping moment. Imagine then, having to do this to the first ball of your first test match as an umpire! Tintin, over to you. WillE [posting from work]!

Q282 edit

Carrying on from the last question, who is considered to be the only person to take a catch off his first ball as a wicket-keeper in Tests ? Tintin (talk) 11:57, 13 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

WG Grace - [2] see 1884. -- I@n 14:18, 14 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Good god - that bearded man gets everywhere. He was the opposing captain in Jack Hobbs' first first-class match. -- ALoan (Talk) 14:48, 14 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Well done. The bearded man is indeed the answer. As England grew desperate for wickets, wicketkeeper Alfred Lyttelton bowled an unsuccessful over with Walter Read behind the wicket. He later came back for a second spell with Grace as the WK. Grace caught Billy Midwinter down the legside off the very first ball. Tintin (talk) 15:58, 14 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Q283 edit

I represented my country in one of the very first international cricket tours and was later captain-coach of the opposition team in its first tour in the other direction. And surprisingly I don't yet have a Wikipedia article. Who am I? -- I@n 23:56, 14 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

William Caffyn who is perhaps better known for "71 notout", one of the earliest cricketing autobiographies. Wisden obit here. Tintin (talk) 05:23, 15 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
You're very warm, but its not Billy I'm looking for. -- I@n 05:30, 15 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Charles Lawrence of the Australian Aboriginal Team ? Tintin (talk) 05:41, 15 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Correct. See 1868 Aboriginal cricket tour of England. Your turn Sir. -- I@n 05:50, 15 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I've created an article about the (most interesting) Mr Lawrence. Feel free to add to it. I presume Surrey didn't play very often in his day, because his bowling stats are outstanding, even for a 19th century cricketer, yet he only played nine first class matches, including one on the 1868 Aboriginal tour. --Dweller 10:07, 15 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Actually, I think he must have moved to Ireland: [3] Of the FC games, two were for Surrey (1/35 as first change bowler at Hove, and did not bowl against North of England, though he opened the batting on those occasions), one for Middx (with a 10-for against MCC), one for The World (presumably Australia, against Surrey at Melbourne) and the remaining five as captain of New South Wales, which meant he probably only bowled himself when the pitch was a nightmare. This was the age when Alfred Mynn was regarded as an all-rounder, with a first class batting average of 13.42... Sam Vimes | Address me 11:01, 15 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Q284 edit

Can someone else please ask the next question. I won't be around over the weekend. Tintin (talk) 12:26, 15 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Allow me.
Apart from retiring, there are ten ways of getting out in cricket. In Test cricket, one of these has only ever been used once. What is it and who was it? -- I@n 12:36, 15 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Obstructing the field, Len Hutton at the Oval in 1951. Sam Vimes | Address me 12:40, 15 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Len Hutton obstructed the field. --Dweller 12:41, 15 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Bah! One minute too slow. Nice one Sam. --Dweller 12:42, 15 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Reference. Stephen Turner (Talk) 12:46, 15 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Q285 edit

Should Michael Vaughan ever return to captaincy and win a Test, whose record will he equal? Sam Vimes | Address me 12:55, 15 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Peter May's. Johnlp 12:58, 15 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

20 Test wins. Beaten again! --Dweller 13:00, 15 September 2006 (UTC) Reference [4] --Dweller 13:01, 15 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Indeed. John, your turn. :) Sam Vimes | Address me 13:18, 15 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. A very apposite question for the number, I think. Johnlp 13:29, 15 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Q286 edit

When Junior's junior took over as senior on a tour, which nominal junior (though actually no relation) had him stumped? Johnlp 13:29, 15 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'm guessing this is about Junior Murray and Carlton Baugh, whose Dad was also called Carlton Baugh. --Dweller 14:25, 15 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
And I'll chuck Deryck Murray into the mix too. --Dweller 14:27, 15 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Gosh. Those are some shockingly bad stubs. -- ALoan (Talk) 14:41, 15 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

At least one of them was created by me... *turns red*. But, hey, that was when I was a total n00b. Anyway, one of the things on my list is to roll through the Windies player pages and get them up to a standard. Unfortunately, I have a long list...:D -- Deville (Talk) 14:20, 18 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Oh, sorry - I was not pointing fingers, just saying that they really deserve someone to do some work on them (the justification for this quiz is as a focus to improve articles, after all). -- ALoan (Talk) 11:40, 19 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Mmm. You're in the right area, but not quite. Look for someone who went on a tour as a junior to Junior, but ended up in the Test team at Junior's expense. And then what happened to this "understudy"? Johnlp 14:42, 15 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Is this about Denesh Ramdin? --Dweller 15:03, 15 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

No. Go back about 10 (or 11) years... Johnlp 15:06, 15 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

David Williams took over from Junior Murray? WillE 15:22, 15 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
And was caught by Mark Waugh off the bowling of Shane Warne [5] ? WillE 15:26, 15 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
And was caught by Ijaz Ahmed too, come to that, but not sure if that was Ijaz Ahmed Jr or not! [6] WillE 15:30, 15 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Nope. Wrong tour. Johnlp 15:47, 15 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Courtney Browne replaced Junior Murray as wicket-keeper for the last two Tests in the 1995 tour of England?
England v West Indies, Trent Bridge, Nottingham, 10-14 August 1995
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+CO Browne st Russell b Illingworth 34 101 67 3 0
Richard Illingworth is no relation of Ray Illingworth. -- ALoan (Talk) 16:01, 15 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Well done. Browne was Murray's "junior" and was stumped off R. Illingworth Junior (no relation). Over to you. Johnlp 16:12, 15 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Great question! --Dweller 16:45, 15 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Who wants to set the next question? --Dweller 14:37, 18 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry - I meant to post a qeuestion but was rather distracted by a variety of things (some in real life; others all-too-apparent from my talk page) to which the new quiz question was sadly subordinated. Rule 3 worked, though :) -- ALoan (Talk) 11:40, 19 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Q287 edit

I'll ask the next one because I have one pending.

In the recent past, this batsman scored a hundred in his last innings of the season and was dismissed off the last ball of the match. If he had managed to remain notout, he would have ended up with an average over 100 for the county season. Who was this ? Tintin (talk) 14:55, 18 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Nick Knight back in ye olde 2002? - He scored a 100 in his last match, and a not out would've meant an average of over 100, but I'm not sure if it was the last ball of the match? Dingbatdan 15:13, 18 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Welldone, sir. Knight it is. He scored 74 & 133 in his last match. Tintin (talk) 15:16, 18 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry, it was not off the last ball. His was the last wicket to fall, six minutes before close of play. Tintin (talk) 15:18, 18 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Q288 edit

Who has the highest score in the 4th Innings of a first-class match? - I'm going away for 4 days, so the correct answer may continue. Dingbatdan 03:30, 19 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Is it the 260 made by Cameron White this season for Somerset on the 11th August at Derby. Aussie King Pin 04:38, 19 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Sounds good, but I can't find a point of reference. Can one of the encyclopaedics confirm this? :o) WillE 17:51, 20 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
http://cricketarchive.co.uk/Archive/Records/Firstclass/Overall/Highest_Fourth_Innings_Player_Scores.html Tintin (talk) 05:07, 21 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Q289 edit

Which non-Australian player has made the most Test match runs at the WACA ground in Perth and tell me how many runs he scored? Aussie King Pin 23:31, 20 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

David Gower, 471 [7]. -- I@n 01:00, 21 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Good Answer, go ahead and ask the next question. Aussie King Pin 04:15, 21 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Too busy for the moment. The first person in can have my go. -- I@n 04:18, 21 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Q290 edit

I'll have another go. This person earned fame fighting in the world war 2. He had played one first class match in the 1930s and came close to playing for his national rugby team before an accident ended his career in sports. He has a long article in Wikipedia which says nothing about cricket. Who is he ? (In case there is more than one person who fit the criteria, I'll add more hints). Tintin (talk) 05:01, 21 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Would you be speaking of Douglas Bader? -- Deville (Talk) 05:59, 21 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Well done. I was looking for him [8] Tintin (talk) 06:07, 21 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I ran across his article when I was looking for the answer to an earlier question in this quiz. I remember there was a question about a cricket-playing aviator a few weeks ago, and I was looking at WP articles on aviators who fought in the war, ran across Bader's article, and it stuck in my mind. Remarkable story.--- Deville (Talk) 02:22, 22 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Q291 edit

Ok, it's getting harder and harder to come up with questions that have not yet been asked. So here goes, hope it lasts some time:

What was the costliest dropped catch ever? --- Deville (Talk) 02:20, 22 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know where to find the answers so I guess off the top of my head. In 1994, Mark Taylor dropped Salim Malik on 20? and then he made 237? Also in Multan 2004, Sehwag was dropped lots of times and eventually made 309. Probably some other insanely high thing though...Blnguyen | BLabberiNg 02:27, 22 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
If it is not specific to Test cricket, one Victor Fuller Eberle dropped A. E. J. Collins when he was on 20 in his innings of 628*. His Wisden obituary reads : "EBERLE, VICTOR FULLER, who died in Bristol aged about 90, claimed fame as the man who in 1899 dropped A. E. J. Collins when he had scored 20. It was in the House Match at Clifton College in which Collins went on to score 628 not out!"
In Test cricket, it could be Ben Barnett's miss of Len Hutton in his 364. Tintin (talk) 04:26, 22 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Brian Lara was dropped at 18 on his way to 501* by Chris Scott in 1994. --Bedders 06:44, 22 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Some fishing trawler with a clumsy deckhand? --Dweller 09:55, 22 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
A rival team's captain was dropped on 2 and scored 104*. This was an incredibly costly drop (off my bowling too) and it had cost us 24 years of being reminded of it...
More seriously, there can't be a more costly dropped catch than that dropped by Herschelle Gibbs in the 1999 Cricket World Cup semi-final between the two favoured sides, Australia and South Africa. The dropped man, Steve Waugh, went on to score a further 64 (of his eventual 120) runs and Australia won with just two balls to spare. Famously, Waugh is reputed to have asked Gibbs ("Mate"!) how it felt to have "dropped the World Cup". Gibbs' response isn't recorded. Australia demolished Pakistan in the final. --Dweller 10:15, 22 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
It was pretty costly, but it was the last Super Six match, not the semi final. Australian won that game with two balls to spare, then played SA agina in the semi, managing to tie and go through. JPD (talk) 10:34, 22 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

This must be a trick question, or a pun, or something similar, as there can't be an objective answer to this question, as it doesn't define in what way it was "costly". --Dweller 11:15, 22 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Well, I was thinking of Lara and his 501*, using "costliest" as a shorthand for "most runs cost by the mistake", and I guess I was implicitly assuming that we were speaking of first-class or better. Sorry about the confusion; I grant that other definitions of costly are certainly reasonable. Tough to award the scalp, but since Bedders got the one I was thinking of, it's your turn, Bedders. --- Deville (Talk) 13:49, 22 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Bedders? Kingfisherswift 13:54, 23 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Q292 edit

I think it's time for Rule 3 to be invoked - so whilst we're waiting for Deville (or Bedders), I'll ask "How many Georgian realtives can you get into a one bedroom flat for the six days before your wedding?" Answers on a postcard, but it's higher than Bill Hollies Batting Average!WillE 17:39, 25 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry about my neglect, a combination of no questions to ask and real life dramas. Numbering WillE's question --Bedders 07:01, 26 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Is it a question ? Tintin (talk) 07:08, 26 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
It's got a question mark on the end :) --Bedders 07:30, 26 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Georgian relatives? Gosh, they must be old. --Dweller 09:16, 26 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
The answer is 5, and it's tighter still when an extra driver-brother is in the flat. As far as I can make out, there is no cricket in Georgia :o(WillE 10:38, 26 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
She could always eat one? --Dweller 10:54, 26 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

How about, name a player that has batted at every position from 1-11 in a test match innings. I can only find one, but there must be more. --Bedders 07:57, 26 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

There are three - Wilfred Rhodes, Syd Gregory and Vinoo Mankad. Tintin (talk) 08:03, 26 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I only knew about Rohdes, thought there must be more, over to you TT --Bedders 09:25, 26 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Q293 edit

He played his first fc match at the age of 13 and scored 94 on debut. Next year, at the age of 14, he scored first fc hundred (a few months before SRT made his debut, because of which SRT never held even the Indian record for the youngest first class centurion). Four years and one more hundred later, he died at the age of 18. Who was this prodigy ? (Johnlp - stay away from this !) Tintin (talk) 12:18, 27 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I shall wear my woollen mittens all day to stop my fingers from straying on to my keyboard. Johnlp 12:46, 27 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

We're talking about Dhruve Pandove, aren't we? --Roisterer 15:38, 27 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Nice to take the mittens off. Try this link http://cricketarchive.co.uk/Archive/Players/18/18285/18285.html. Johnlp 16:02, 27 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Well done. His home ground was renamed Dhruve Pandove Stadium in his honour, it is probably the only Indian fc ground that is named after a cricketer (there is a Vizzy ground and a few named after kings who have played fcc, but they were not named because they were cricketers). His father Mahender Pandove got elected as the Joint Secretary of BCCI yesterday. The first name is often spelled as "Dhruv". Over to Roisterer. Tintin (talk) 04:49, 28 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Wisden obit here - T.

Q294 edit

What is the highest test score made by a 40 year old? --Roisterer 13:21, 28 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Eric Rowan's 236 at Leeds 1951 ? Tintin (talk) 13:22, 28 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Looking for the answer to the previous question, I found this at Howstat (or perhaps HowSTAT?[9]), which says that the record score for a person aged 40 in Tests is Graham Gooch's 210 against New Zealand at Trent Bridge in 1994. (Rowan's is the best for a 42-year-old, and also the best for a person aged 40 or more. Andy Sandham scored his 325 aged 39.)-- ALoan (Talk) 13:56, 28 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Aloan is correct. Gooch's 210 against New Zealand is the highest score by a 40 year old while Rowan's is the highest by someone the wrong side of 40. I feel I won't be walking at 40, let alone churning out test double centuries. --Roisterer 14:15, 28 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
That was what I thought - but my best three seasons with the ball were after the age of 40.WillE 15:35, 29 September 2006 (UTC) (Career best of 9-19, and one of the 19 was a dubious wide!)[reply]
That's a bizarre stat to keep. Is anyone interested in the highest score by a 27 year old?! --Dweller 15:58, 28 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Presumably the first 27-year-old to score 286 will be interested. ;-) Johnlp 16:24, 28 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
The HowSTAT list has Wilf Rhodes scoring 14* aged 52 (his best score in the West Indies on the tour in early 1930) but has no record for a Test player aged exactly 51. This Cricinfo list suggests that no-one aged exactly 51 has ever played in a Test match, although Bert Ironmonger played 5 weeks before his 51st birthday, and WG Grace and George Gunn are just behind.
There is also a HowSTAT ODI list of "Players Making Highest Score for Each Age" too, which ends with Nolan Clarke playing aged 47 (5 matches for Netherlands in India in February-March 1996 [10]). The list has gaps for 44, 45 and 46. However, this Cricinfo list shows that Norman Gifford played in 1984 aged 44 (his England ODI career was 2 matches within 3 days, DNB and 0* [11]) and John Traicos playing for Zimbawe aged 44 and 45 (from early 1991 to early 1992 - [12]), although without scoring more than 16*. :) -- ALoan (Talk) 17:06, 28 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Looking through the above list, I notice that Lennie Louw had a first class career that started in 1976 and ended in 1982 and List A career that commenced in 2001 (including an ODI game at the 2003 World Cup). Surely this must be some sort of record for the longest time between the start of a first class career and international debut (27 years), the end of a first-class career and the commencement of a List A career (19 years) or any other similar record one could come up with. --Roisterer 00:47, 30 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Q295 edit

Which English cricket commentator in the late 1950s and early 1960s played for the Nepalese cricket team? -- ALoan (Talk) 11:02, 2 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I can give you a clue, if you like. -- ALoan (Talk) 18:42, 2 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Was he a commentator or a player in the 50s and 60s? --Dweller 22:05, 2 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Both, as far as I know. -- ALoan (Talk) 22:22, 2 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Robin Marlar (was he ever a commentator ? ) ? Tintin (talk) 04:28, 3 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

No. Clue: he commentated on cricket in India, on both BBC radio and Indian radio. -- ALoan (Talk) 10:19, 3 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

FP Gaekwad who was known in England in as "Jackie" Baroda ? Tintin (talk) 10:33, 3 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Another guess. Dicky Rutnagur fills the commentator part better, but not sure whether he ever played. Tintin (talk) 10:59, 3 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

No, neither of them. He was English, remember. Keep guessing :) -- ALoan (Talk) 11:07, 3 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Sir Michael Marshall who was also a British MP. UdayS 15:44, 3 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Yes! Well done. (Always a good idea to check my recent contributions :) Your turn. -- ALoan (Talk) 16:30, 3 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Q296 edit

How many times in ODI matches has a bowler collected more wickets than runs conceded and completed his full quota of overs? -- UdayS 16:38, 3 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I believe it's only once - Phil Simmons (10-8-3-4) West Indies v Pakistan at Sydney, World Series, 1992/93. Kingfisherswift 18:21, 3 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I believe so too. There ends my 2 hours in the cricket quiz limelight. Over to you. -- UdayS 20:22, 3 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Q297 edit

Sorry about the delay - struggling to find a decent question, so this will probably get solved in minutes. Anyway, three grounds have had 400+ innings scored on them by individual batsmen more than once - Can you name them? Kingfisherswift 08:07, 5 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

MCG (Ponsford twice), Taunton (Hick, Maclaren) and Karachi (Hanif, Aftab Baloch) ? Tintin (talk) 08:16, 5 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Ok......Nine Minutes. Ahh well, I'll go get a decent question ready. All yours, Tintin. Kingfisherswift 08:36, 5 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It has now been 3 days. We may have to give Monsieur Tintin the friendly reminder. --Roisterer 18:22, 8 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry, I'll add one tomorrow. Was away over the weekend yet again. Tintin (talk) 08:49, 10 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Q298 edit

Which Test cricketer, born in the 1950s, was apparently named after three batsmen - two West Indians and an English ? Tintin (talk) 05:52, 12 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Was he an English?? Rakuten06 19:23, 12 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Colin Everton Hunte Croft. Johnlp 22:14, 12 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Croft is the right answer. See his article at http://www.trinidadexpress.com/index.pl/article_sports_mag?id=125082052 . Hunte made his debut in 1957-58 and Cowdrey came of age in the 1954-55, but Croft was born in 1953. Tintin (talk) 02:28, 13 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Q299 edit

After 1963, one that did exist (and still does, though not in the same way) was officially deemed not to exist, while one that two years later didn't exist is still deemed to exist right up to the present day. What? Johnlp 06:36, 13 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Are we talking about one-day cricket in the English Domestic Season? Aussie King Pin 07:24, 13 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Not quite. Johnlp 07:54, 13 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Is it first class hundreds made by W.G. Grace? --Bedders 08:16, 13 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

No. Think geographical entities. Johnlp 08:18, 13 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Scotland cricket team? Or Ireland or Wales for that matter lol --Dweller 09:13, 13 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

No. Think a bit smaller. Johnlp 10:38, 13 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I think this may refer to the London Government Act 1963 which deemed that Middlesex didn't exist and now formed part of Greater London. Still not sure on part 2... Mdcollins1984 11:07, 13 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
beat me but about 2 minutes to the first bit, but it made me look harder at the second, is it Rhodesia? --Bedders 11:19, 13 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
no that was 1979 - I first thought of that and ceylon... I'm wondering about Surrey but the 1963/65 changes are really confusing! Unless Greater London play as a minor county...!!!Mdcollins1984 11:59, 13 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Could one be Surrey, or possibly Yorkshire? -- ALoan (Talk) 11:58, 13 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, MDCollins has got it. At a meeting in December 1963, the English cricket counties put out a statement, after the London Government Act, that "The County of London shall not be regarded as a county." London had in fact been a county since 1888 and is still one of sorts, even though the Greater London Council has now gone. The corollary to this was that the county of Middlesex disappeared two years later on the formation of the Greater London Council, but still exists in cricketing terms. So the first half is London, the second half is Middlesex. Over to you. Johnlp 13:36, 13 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! Guess I need to find a decent question now! Mdcollins1984 16:49, 13 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Q300! edit

Which cricketer shared his middle name with one of the counties he played for? Mdcollins1984 17:43, 13 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Derek John Somerset Taylor. Johnlp 18:49, 13 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Well done - are we alternating answers? No WP article on him though! Mdcollins1984 10:12, 14 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]