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00:22, 19 April 2024 review of submission by Keppard123 edit

Why was my entry rejected again? The reviewer did not leave an explanation. The previous reviewers wanted more references. I included quite a few. Please tell me what I am doing wrong so this can be accepted. The guitarist in question is a world class player and this is an important release. Thanks! Keppard123 (talk) 00:22, 19 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

And why would you call this a test edit? This is a serious entry. Please respond when you can. Keppard123 (talk) 01:54, 19 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Keppard123: The issue is that the draft is almost entirely critical reception, a tracklist, and credits; it should be a summary of what the album is, how it was produced, and the critical reception of it. Compare 1987 (What the Fuck Is Going On?) or Odyssey Number Five, which are featured-class articles on albums. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v Source assessment notes 06:31, 19 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

06:19, 19 April 2024 review of submission by TALARI ARUN KUMAR edit

I edited my article named "Traits of a successful salesperson". Please refer and approve it TALARI ARUN KUMAR (talk) 06:19, 19 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@TALARI ARUN KUMAR: We do not host op-eds. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v Source assessment notes 06:23, 19 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

06:24, 19 April 2024 review of submission by Prathiksha1996 edit

Hi, this is the third time I am writing this article can you please help me which point sounds like an advertisement here so that I can edit it accordingly Prathiksha1996 (talk) 06:24, 19 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Prathiksha1996: Before we continue, what is your connexion to FloCareer? —Jéské Couriano v^_^v Source assessment notes 06:32, 19 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
(Blocked as sock.) DoubleGrazing (talk) 08:12, 19 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

09:24, 19 April 2024 review of submission by Eeeenah0209 edit

Hi There,

My recent submission has been declined for the following reason:

Resubmitted with no meaningful improvement, previous decline(s) still apply. Thank you for your submission, but the subject of this article already exists in Wikipedia. You can find it and improve it at KWV South Africa instead.

The following article is on KWV Brandy, a label under the KWV umbrella, and therefore needs its own page. The existing KWV page (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KWV_South_Africa) simply states the history and origin of the brand. The purpose of my article is to give more information about KWV Brandy and its varieties, along with all of its awards. Is there a there perhaps a way forward? 

Eeeenah0209 (talk) 09:24, 19 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Eeeenah0209: if you can show that KWV House of Brandy is independently notable, then it may be possible to have a separate article on it. (I'm not saying even then we necessarily should have a separate article, but it would be at least possible.)
Could you please respond to the conflict-of-interest query on your talk page? Thank you. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 09:34, 19 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

10:25, 19 April 2024 review of submission by Zeeyas edit

According to my article reviewer, the article was declined due to insufficient published sources that are in-depth, reliable, secondary, and strictly independent of the subject. However, I believe that the references provided meet these criteria. I kindly need assistance in updating the article in a manner acceptable to Wikipedia. Zeeyas (talk) 10:25, 19 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Zeeyas: so that we don't have to plough through nearly 50 (!) citations, could you please list here the three strongest ones in terms of meeting the WP:GNG / WP:ORG guideline, namely: secondary sources that provide significant coverage, directly of the subject, and that are both reliable and entirely independent of the subject. Note that passing mentions, routine business reporting, anything where a representative of the organisation is commenting or being interviewed, and anything that is based on press releases, sponsored content or other material originating with the organisation do not count. Thank you, -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 10:36, 19 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@DoubleGrazing Kindly see below a list of our three strongest citations based on the criteria:
  1. https://www.macfound.org/grantee/shehu-musa-yaradua-foundation-39438/
  2. https://luminategroup.com/investee/yaradua
  3. https://statehouse.gov.sl/sierra-leones-president-julius-maada-bio-seeks-partnership-towards-promoting-purposeful-leadership-with-a-symbolic-visit-to-the-shehu-musa-yaradua-centre-nigeria/
Thank you. Zeeyas (talk) 13:41, 19 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Zeeyas: DoubleGrazing may not be willing to take the time to assess 50 sources, but I am. Refer to User:Jéské Couriano/Decode:
None of the sources you have that I could assess are usable in any way. Please read WP:Reliable sources and WP:Notability (companies and organizations) and look for better sources. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v Source assessment notes 16:00, 19 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Jéské Couriano: Thank you for the very detailed feedback. I will work on the sources as advised. Zeeyas (talk) 20:23, 19 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Zeeyas You said "our" above. Are you associated with this Foundation? 331dot (talk) 20:51, 19 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@331dot Yes, I am. Zeeyas (talk) 19:20, 20 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Zeeyas Then please read conflict of interest; you will need to make a formal disclosure. 331dot (talk) 19:57, 20 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@331dot: Thank you. I believe I did that before submitting the draft. Zeeyas (talk) 18:45, 21 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Zeeyas I don't see in your edit history where you disclosed. If you checked a box when you used the article wizard, that is not a disclosure, it's just a way of guiding you. No one knows you checked that box other than you. You need to disclose as WP:COI describes. If you find the coding too challenging, you may just write a statement on your user page to the effect of "I wish to disclose a conflict of interest with regards to the Shehu Musa Yar'Adua Foundation". 331dot (talk) 19:11, 21 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

13:31, 19 April 2024 review of submission by Shark4124 edit

I cannot submit it,because it says "ratelimited" what i gotta do? Shark4124 (talk) 13:31, 19 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Shark4124 I fixed your post to provide the correct link to your draft. I'm not sure about your issue, but your draft would not be accepted if you submitted it, as it has no independent reliable sources summarized. Wikipedia articles cannot be used to source other Wikipedia articles, per WP:CIRCULAR. 331dot (talk) 13:36, 19 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The source are hard to find,sorry. Because it really rare. Shark4124 (talk) 13:49, 19 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Shark4124 Sources are a must; you should have them in hand before starting to write a draft. Sources do not need to be online, a book in a library is fine.
If sources are hard to find, how do you know about this man? 331dot (talk) 13:52, 19 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I got in from the youtube actually (sorry if i say "youtube") ill change it bro. Because it a bit confusing,sorry! Shark4124 (talk) 14:00, 19 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks bro,appreciate that for the suggestions, i able to submit it Shark4124 (talk) 14:17, 19 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

14:18, 19 April 2024 review of submission by Revbunmi edit

I know very well of the subject matter; Olubunmi Adeleye Thomas, he is an unpublished personality very few is online about him and the Oyo State Government official website has information about him at www.bunmithomas.org.ng and knowing him to be an human right activist and clergy in Ibadan the most populous city in Nigeria, he ought to be on wikipedia. please i recommend that you call for articles concerning him. thank you. Revbunmi (talk) 14:18, 19 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Revbunmi If there are few sources about this man, he would not merit a Wikipedia article at this time. We do not place phone calls here searching for sources, it's up to you to provide them. 331dot (talk) 14:41, 19 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

15:42, 19 April 2024 review of submission by Fanindradev edit

I’m trying to add a biography page of Fanindra bhardwaj he is music producer and songwriter please help me to add a title for fanindra bhardwaj and please suggest me which reference needed in submission [[ user:fanindradev]] (talk) 15:42, 19 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You need to find several places where people wholly unconnected with Bhardwaj, and not prompted or fed information by or on behalf of Bhardwaj, have chosen to write at lenght about him, and been published in reliable sources. That is the only kind of source which is relevant at this stage.
If you do not have at least three sources which meet that description (see WP:42 for more detail then you are wasting your time and our time. ColinFine (talk) 19:19, 21 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

22:55, 19 April 2024 review of submission by 2A01:9700:1021:B00:CEDB:B79C:29BF:D4BD edit

whywas it rejected 2A01:9700:1021:B00:CEDB:B79C:29BF:D4BD (talk) 22:55, 19 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I can't see the reasons for rejecting it, but the reason given for deleting it was that iswasunambiguous advertising or promotion.
Wikipedia has little interest in what the subject of an article says or wants to say about themselves, or what their associates say about them. Wikipedia is almost entirely interested in what people who have no connection with the subject, and who have not been prompted or fed information on behalf of the subject, have chosen to publish about the subject in reliable sources. If enough material is cited from independent sources to establish notability, a limited amount of uncontroversial factual information may be added from non-independent sources.
Writing an article starts by finding several independent reliable sources about the subject, and then continues by summarising what those sources say. It follows that if there are not enough such sources, and article is not possible, and any attempt to write one is a complete waste of time. ColinFine (talk) 19:21, 21 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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