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Template:Proxy info edit

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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 21:03, 12 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Proxy info (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

obsolete, as proxies are now blocked per policy. Ginsuloft (talk) 22:42, 1 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment do we have articles on proxy sites? If so, it could be modified and used on articles in articlespace. -- 65.92.181.39 (talk) 12:55, 2 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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Template:PROXY edit

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The result of the discussion was moving to a subpage of {{Shared IP}}. Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 21:01, 12 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Template:PROXY (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Ancient template Superseded by {{sharedip}} and {{proxyblock}}. Ginsuloft (talk) 22:25, 1 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Infobox hindustani raga edit

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The result of the discussion was delete. Magioladitis (talk) 09:11, 9 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Infobox hindustani raga (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Used once on Shankara (raga). The purpose is unclear, the labels for the parameters are not in English, and there is no documentation. eh bien mon prince (talk) 21:48, 1 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

  • delete, seems to specific and most of the information is already in the prose, which is a pretty short article, so no real need for an infobox summary here. Frietjes (talk) 22:24, 1 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom. LT90001 (talk) 23:08, 8 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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Template:Guadalupe Victoria cabinet infobox edit

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The result of the discussion was delete. Magioladitis (talk) 09:12, 9 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Guadalupe Victoria cabinet infobox (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Unused. eh bien mon prince (talk) 21:13, 1 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom. LT90001 (talk) 23:08, 8 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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Template:Infobox Lunar eclipse edit

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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 21:50, 12 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Infobox Lunar eclipse (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Created in 2009, it hasn't been edited since (save for a minor change by a bot), and is unused. eh bien mon prince (talk) 21:10, 1 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Infobox Solar eclipse2 edit

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The result of the discussion was no consensus, but if you can figure out a way to cleanly merge the two, then feel free to open a discussion elsewhere. Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 23:26, 12 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Infobox Solar eclipse2 (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Fork of Template:Infobox Solar eclipse; both have over 500 transclusions and should be merged. eh bien mon prince (talk) 21:04, 1 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I don't remember why they were split. If you want to do the merge, you're welcome to it. Tom Ruen (talk) 21:25, 1 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • comment, I don't think it's that simple. it's basically a single parameter frontend for {{Infobox Solar eclipse}}, not a fork. good luck with figuring it out how it is transcluded in the articles (hint: check Template:Solareclipse200 db). I really see no way this can be cleanly deleted at the moment. possible, but messy. Frietjes (talk) 22:32, 1 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Mh, if a merger is not possible for now, it might at least be advisable to deprecate one or the other, so that new articles won't lead to even more instances of forking.--eh bien mon prince (talk) 11:44, 3 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
except that neither is deprecated, see templates in use on Solar eclipse of March 29, 2006. both are being used. Frietjes (talk) 18:29, 3 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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Template:Infobox civilian attack edit

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The result of the discussion was do not merge Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 21:05, 12 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Infobox civilian attack (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Infobox event (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Propose merging Template:Infobox civilian attack with Template:Infobox event.
This infobox can be merged with Template:Infobox event without any loss of functionality; for evidence, see these test cases. eh bien mon prince (talk) 20:15, 1 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

  • Oppose here. The civilian attack template has some parameters that event template doesn't necessarily require, such as attack type, motive, perpetrators, suspected perpetrators, weapons. Merging those parameters to the event infobox may clutter it. And since, unfortunately, many civilian attacks now become notable, it is probably better to have a dedicated infobox for them. Brandmeistertalk 21:54, 1 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
    • There is already quite an overlap in parameters (location, coordinates, date, injuries, deaths, suspects, and more), and unused fields can be removed from the wikicode of articles, as always.--eh bien mon prince (talk) 22:07, 1 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
      • Yes, but still they may clutter the documenation, which lists all parameters. A dedicated template, handling frequent terrorist acts, other massacres and school shootings looks better to me. Brandmeistertalk 14:13, 2 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • comment, not so clear that this was a good idea. the event template was focused on non-attack events before the change, which was nice and simple. it would have been good to discuss the merger here first before merging the two then proposing a merger. Frietjes (talk) 22:37, 1 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
    • It would have been unwise to propose a merger of two widely used templates, without first knowing if such a merger was feasible. And if the proposal is rejected, those fields can be removed without problems.--eh bien mon prince (talk) 11:01, 2 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
      • and that is why we have a sandbox. Frietjes (talk) 18:30, 3 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
        • And of course I know about them. This just didn't seem like a controversial nomination, but maybe I miscalculated.--eh bien mon prince (talk) 20:52, 3 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose merging. Bad idea, because "event" can mean "any" event of special significance. Civilian attack, on the other hand, is a civilian attack with the emphasis on "civilian"... and on "attack". Poeticbent talk 23:33, 1 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
    • We don't keep or create infoboxes based on their titles, "civilian attack" would continue to exist in the wikicode and no difference would be noticeable in the articles that use it.--eh bien mon prince (talk) 11:01, 2 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Strong oppose merging. Civilian attack seems to be widely used and sufficiently different from a general event to have its own template. If we took this proposal to its logical conclusion, articles on anything that ever happened would use a huge, bloated generic event infobox. -- Patar knight - chat/contributions 16:25, 2 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
    • This is not a proposal to create an infobox of 'everything that ever happened', it's a proposal to merge two templates that already share many parameters, which is not the case for other templates about events of other kinds.--eh bien mon prince (talk) 11:48, 3 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose merging: I agree with what Patar knight said. You could take this to the extreme not only based on similar parameters (which is what you are suggesting) but similar theme, similar geography, etc. AK456 (talk) 13:32, 7 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge Consider also {{Infobox news event}}, which should in any case be merged with {{Infobox event}}. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 18:12, 10 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose merging - per ak456.--BabbaQ (talk) 01:08, 11 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose per Brandmeister Cambalachero (talk) 01:29, 11 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose - Civilian Attack is sufficiently different to have its own template. However, I can see where someone might use the more general Event infobox if he wasn't aware of the existence of the Civilian Attack one, and I imagine there are other specific event-type infoboxes. Perhaps the documentation page for Event should list the specific event infoboxes like Civilian Attack and the scenarios where they should be used instead of the general Event one. And Civilian Attack and any others could reference the Event infobox on their documentation pages. Indyguy (talk) 16:22, 11 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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Template:Largest cities of Kosovo edit

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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 21:50, 12 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Largest cities of Kosovo (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Template is not transcluded, appears to be broken, and is unmaintained. Its content has a number of factual errors, as well as overlapping existing content in other articles, like the three overlapping lists of towns in Kosovo. I can't imagine any article that would be improved by adding this template to it. bobrayner (talk) 18:30, 1 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The lack of maintenance by itself is not a reason to delete it, since it could be fixed with little effort. Is the Kosovo WP interested in using this template? If not, I agree that deleting it would make sense.--eh bien mon prince (talk) 21:06, 1 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I can't really speak for other members of WikiProject Kosovo, but I see no use for it. The project has more pressing concerns than rehabilitating a template which is trying to duplicate articles that already sorely need the project's attention. I didn't know the template existed until I followed the trail of somebody who'd succeeded in adding fake population data to multiple pages. bobrayner (talk) 23:38, 1 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom. LT90001 (talk) 23:07, 8 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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Template:Infobox horse test edit

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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 23:58, 1 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Infobox horse test (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Test version and fork of Template:Infobox horse breed transcluded in one article. eh bien mon prince (talk) 16:29, 1 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

  • delete or move to sandbox. replaced here. Frietjes (talk) 17:48, 1 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete Old sandbox. Wikiproject Equine incorporated some of the changes sandboxed here and made additional improvements to the horse breeds template, which is now used on over 350-400 articles. No need for this. Could be usefied if the creator wants it, I suppose. Montanabw(talk) 18:12, 1 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete as creator, old sandbox as montana says. Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 20:27, 1 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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Template:Infobox sports block edit

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The result of the discussion was merge Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 23:24, 12 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Infobox sports block (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Two transclusions, Template:Infobox programming block can replace it. eh bien mon prince (talk) 14:37, 1 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom. LT90001 (talk) 23:07, 8 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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Template:Infobox Landskap Symbols edit

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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 21:49, 12 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Infobox Landskap Symbols (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Very old template. Only instance was replaced here. eh bien mon prince (talk) 14:35, 1 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Infobox shared monarchs edit

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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 23:23, 12 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Infobox shared monarchs (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

The only instance was replaced here. eh bien mon prince (talk) 12:52, 1 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Infobox British Royalty styles would be more appropriate for those articles.--eh bien mon prince (talk) 18:03, 1 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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Template:Infobox US Air Force edit

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The result of the discussion was redirect Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 21:15, 12 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Infobox US Air Force (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Previously one transclusion on Surgeon General of the United States Air Force, replaced with Template:Infobox military post here. eh bien mon prince (talk) 11:20, 1 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Plantbox edit

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The result of the discussion was moving to userspace Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 21:41, 12 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Plantbox (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

There was a lengthy discussion about this template at WP Plants which ended without agreement for its inclusion, as a consequence it's unused in mainspace. If the creator still wants to work on this, it should be userified. eh bien mon prince (talk) 09:32, 1 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:BD Explorer edit

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The result of the discussion was delete, if someone wants it, we can restore it per WP:REFUND. Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 21:13, 12 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Template:BD Explorer (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Unused, the purpose of this instance of Infobox mountain is unclear. eh bien mon prince (talk) 09:23, 1 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

  • looks like a misplaced article draft, move to userspace or delete. Frietjes (talk) 18:06, 1 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Sandbox this is not a template, it's an article in templatespace -- 76.65.129.3 (talk) 04:52, 3 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom. LT90001 (talk) 23:06, 8 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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Template:Confederation of Indian Industry edit

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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 21:12, 12 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Confederation of Indian Industry (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Confederation of Indian Industry already has an infobox, and this one is unused. eh bien mon prince (talk) 09:15, 1 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Infobox American International Metropolitan Area edit

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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 21:10, 12 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Infobox American International Metropolitan Area (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Previously one use on Laredo–Nuevo Laredo, replaced here. eh bien mon prince (talk) 08:27, 1 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Infobox swimming pool edit

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The result of the discussion was no consensus Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 21:10, 12 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Infobox swimming pool (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages) - 27 transclusions

It can be replaced by Template:Infobox building. Magioladitis (talk) 05:32, 1 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Infobox sport centre edit

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The result of the discussion was redirect Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 23:07, 12 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Infobox sport centre (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

It can be replaced by Template:Infobox building. All parameters exist in Template:Infobox building. Only some parameter renaming may be needed. Magioladitis (talk) 05:31, 1 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Infobox biathlete edit

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The result of the discussion was no consensus Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 21:10, 12 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Infobox biathlete (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

This template was deleted as redundant to Template:Infobox sportsperson but recreated three days ago. eh bien mon prince (talk) 09:50, 23 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Convert it so it becomes a wrapper of {{Infobox sportsperson}}. There are some unique parameters that we need to keep. We can do the same for alpine ski racer. -- Magioladitis (talk) 05:34, 1 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment: Maybe it would be useful to change/rename the infobox so it could be used for all winter sports (alpine, biathlon, cross-country, ski-jumping, etc). All these sports use a similar World Cup format. However, I don't think this template meets any of the 4 reasons for deletion, and I don't get the hassle just to save a few kbs. EnemyOfTheState|talk 22:49, 1 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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Template:Infobox drug mechanism edit

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The result of the discussion was no consensus Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 21:10, 12 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Infobox drug mechanism (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Unused. eh bien mon prince (talk) 22:28, 22 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete. has been superceded. LT90001 (talk) 01:12, 23 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment – doesn't seem to have the same information as {{Drugclassbox}} -- 70.24.249.39 (talk) 05:02, 23 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment – Superceded by which infobox? There was a proposal to add this information to another infobox (possibly the {{drugbox}}), but it seems to have run out of steam. In the meantime, this infobox is a useful prototype and I have added it to one article two articles (see below) and plan to add it to additional articles. Boghog (talk) 11:25, 29 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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Template:Infobox economy continent edit

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The result of the discussion was merge Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 23:03, 12 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Infobox economy continent (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Could be merged with Template:Infobox economy. eh bien mon prince (talk) 22:33, 22 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Infobox drinking game edit

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The result of the discussion was merge Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 20:30, 12 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Infobox drinking game (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Fork of Template:Infobox game used on three pages, it has the same parameters plus an 'alcohol' field that could be added to Infobox game as a blank parameter. eh bien mon prince (talk) 22:28, 22 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

  • How about instead of adding "alcohol" to {{Infobox game}}, there be a field for equipment, which could include the alcohol, glassware, etc. for a drinking game, and could include any other type of equipment for other types of games. That particular use could be illustrated with an example. FYI, I am on WP:F&D and b:WB:F&B, and I have no objection to this template being deleted. Over on Wikibooks, I had toyed with the idea of including some of the more popular drinking games, and I don't think this infobox would even be very useful in that context. But adding equipment to {{Infobox game}} would improve that template, while also giving an alternative for the few articles currently using this one. —Willscrlt ( Talk | com | b:en | meta ) 07:28, 28 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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Example of replacement with IB game: diff.--eh bien mon prince (talk) 08:35, 1 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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Template:Infobox bandy club edit

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The result of the discussion was merge Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 21:09, 12 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Infobox bandy club (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

30 transclusions, could be merged with Template:Infobox sports team. eh bien mon prince (talk) 22:15, 22 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 01:09, 1 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Agree -- Magioladitis (talk) 21:08, 1 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • merge, which will require some additional parameters to be added to the generic template. Frietjes (talk) 22:35, 1 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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