Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of National Football League annual interceptions leaders/archive1
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The list was promoted by PresN via FACBot (talk) 12:25, 4 February 2024 (UTC) [1].[reply]
List of National Football League annual interceptions leaders (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
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- Nominator(s): Hey man im josh (talk) 17:08, 6 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
This is #9 in the series of NFL annual statistical leaders (7th one I've contributed to). Formatting is based off of past successful featured lists from the series. As always, I will do my best to respond and address issues as quickly as possible. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:08, 6 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- COmments
- First sentence needs to mention that we are talking about American football
- "did not begin tracking interceptions under 1940" - until, surely?
- "Dick Lynch led the league twice during the 1960's" - 1960s doesn't have an apostrophe
- That's it! -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 21:09, 6 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- @ChrisTheDude: Thank you for looking over the list and providing this helpful feedback. I've made fixes that I hope address all of your comments. Hey man im josh (talk) 22:54, 6 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- Support -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 22:59, 6 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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edit- Image review: The source links on all(!) of the images appear to be dead. Have you looked at the archive to see if something can be salvaged?
- Source review: The references follow a consistent format which italicizes all of the website names and the few links I spotchecked are working. Apologies for not being familiar with sports sources. If Pro-Football-Reference.com is considered a reputed source then the SR passes.
- The prose is top quality so it is a support on that front.--NØ 15:54, 28 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- @MaranoFan: Pro-Football-Reference.com is indeed considered a reliable source (based on sources used by User:Novem Linguae/Scripts/CiteHighlighter) and I use it extensively for the lists that I work on. As for the source links for images, is it standard to expect that the original sources are active or linked via archive? This is something I haven't had asked of me before. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:03, 28 November 2023 (UTC)*[reply]
- When the source links are dead I usually ask for the archives just to verify the files were avilable under the stated license (it is also appropriate to link them in a bracket after the dead link on the file page). Exceptions can always be made if they are not available on the archive site, though.--NØ 18:59, 28 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- @MaranoFan: Am I meant to edit the file, or do you just want the links? I'll put the work in I just want to make sure I'm doing it right :) Hey man im josh (talk) 20:30, 28 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- It could go in parenthesis after the dead link, like what I've done here for example, if you want to add it to the file. For the purpose of the image review, I would just need to see that the licensing is correct so providing the links is sufficient!--NØ 20:35, 28 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- Thanks @MaranoFan. I'll take a crack at that tomorrow (probably) and send you a ping once I've gone through all the images. Appreciate the tip and example! Hey man im josh (talk) 21:06, 28 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- @MaranoFan: I was able to add archive links for all of the images except for the first one, which features Night Train Lane. I did manage to find the image in 3 locations though (1, 2, 3). Hey man im josh (talk) 16:32, 29 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- The source and image reviews both pass.--NØ 16:43, 29 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- @MaranoFan: I was able to add archive links for all of the images except for the first one, which features Night Train Lane. I did manage to find the image in 3 locations though (1, 2, 3). Hey man im josh (talk) 16:32, 29 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- Thanks @MaranoFan. I'll take a crack at that tomorrow (probably) and send you a ping once I've gone through all the images. Appreciate the tip and example! Hey man im josh (talk) 21:06, 28 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- It could go in parenthesis after the dead link, like what I've done here for example, if you want to add it to the file. For the purpose of the image review, I would just need to see that the licensing is correct so providing the links is sufficient!--NØ 20:35, 28 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- @MaranoFan: Am I meant to edit the file, or do you just want the links? I'll put the work in I just want to make sure I'm doing it right :) Hey man im josh (talk) 20:30, 28 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- When the source links are dead I usually ask for the archives just to verify the files were avilable under the stated license (it is also appropriate to link them in a bracket after the dead link on the file page). Exceptions can always be made if they are not available on the archive site, though.--NØ 18:59, 28 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- @MaranoFan: Pro-Football-Reference.com is indeed considered a reliable source (based on sources used by User:Novem Linguae/Scripts/CiteHighlighter) and I use it extensively for the lists that I work on. As for the source links for images, is it standard to expect that the original sources are active or linked via archive? This is something I haven't had asked of me before. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:03, 28 November 2023 (UTC)*[reply]
- Support from Gonzo_fan2007
who then gains possession for their team
, it's minor, but "typically" should be added here. If the intercepting team then proceeds to fumble the ball (which happened quite recently), then the intercepting team wouldn't automatically gain possession.- I am guessing that the number after the player name means how many times they have led the league? Could you make that text small (matches other lists that do this) and clarify somewhere what this means. Also, that number should go before the symbols (†, for example).
- You could note in Don Hutson's that he led the league in interceptions the same year he led the league in touchdown catches. Just a recommendation.
- Is there data for interceptions returned for touchdowns? Could be an interesting addition to the table.
That's all I got, nice work. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 19:12, 30 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
...it's minor, but "typically" should be added here. If the intercepting team then proceeds to fumble the ball (which happened quite recently), then the intercepting team wouldn't automatically gain possession.
– I actually thought about this scenario prior to nominating. The way that I interpret this is that any player with possession can lose possession at any point and that's sort of a separate aspect compared to the interception itself, once it's considered to be a catch anyways.I am guessing that the number after the player name means how many times they have led the league? Could you make that text small (matches other lists that do this) and clarify somewhere what this means. Also, that number should go before the symbols (†, for example).
– It's actually clarified in the key with the symbol as(#)
. I'm open to reworking how this is called out in the key if the current iteration is at all confusing. I'm absolutely open to making the numbers smaller, but this is the seventh annual stat list I've nominated and I've put the symbol before the number of appearances within the list each time. I believe, from a quick lookover of the annual stat lists (I have a list of them here, it is actually consistent with other similar lists. Additionally, I think it makes sense to show the symbol before the number in brackets because we don't include it on the first occurrence, making it appear to be more consistent formatting by including the symbol first.You could note in Don Hutson's that he led the league in interceptions the same year he led the league in touchdown catches. Just a recommendation.
– Good call out, I already mentioned that he's a two-way player, so it makes perfect sense to mention. I included that he led in scoring and receiving touchdowns.Is there data for interceptions returned for touchdowns? Could be an interesting addition to the table.
– It looks like there is actually considering Ace Parker's PFR shows that he had a pick-6. I like that suggestion, I'll start working on it.
- As always, I very much appreciate your feedback and review @Gonzo fan2007. You always get my brain thinking about how these lists could be better. Hey man im josh (talk) 19:48, 30 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Nothing here that would prevent me from supporting. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 20:02, 30 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- I've added the pick-6 column, thanks again for the suggestion and review @Gonzo fan2007. Hey man im josh (talk) 20:26, 30 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- One other question. I feel like this is the first time I have noticed data (numbers) being left-justified in the table. I am not sure if there is an MOS, but anecdotally I feel like most number data is represented as either center justified or right justified. Thoughts? « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 21:19, 30 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- @Gonzo fan2007: Funny you mention that, it's been bugging me for a bit too and I was on the fence about it. You think I should implement the centering on the statistic that the annual page is based on and the GPs column on this and the other annual lists I've promoted? Hey man im josh (talk) 21:31, 30 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- I definitely prefer center alignment for any numerical value. It wouldn't stop my support either way tho. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 21:40, 30 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- @Gonzo fan2007: Funny you mention that, it's been bugging me for a bit too and I was on the fence about it. You think I should implement the centering on the statistic that the annual page is based on and the GPs column on this and the other annual lists I've promoted? Hey man im josh (talk) 21:31, 30 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- One other question. I feel like this is the first time I have noticed data (numbers) being left-justified in the table. I am not sure if there is an MOS, but anecdotally I feel like most number data is represented as either center justified or right justified. Thoughts? « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 21:19, 30 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- I've added the pick-6 column, thanks again for the suggestion and review @Gonzo fan2007. Hey man im josh (talk) 20:26, 30 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Nothing here that would prevent me from supporting. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 20:02, 30 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Promoting. --PresN 03:52, 4 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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