User talk:Tone/Archive 7

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Archive 5 (until 4th of January 2007)
Archive 6 (until 6th of May 2007)

Looking For A Coach

1. Shoessss (talk · contribs)Ready to move to the next level, but would like some advice and help on the best possible way to avoid any and all land mines. Will let my record speak for itself. Thanks in advance for any and all help.Shoessss 02:42, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

Coaching

Hi. I'd be glad to help you with advices. So if you have any questions, feel free to ask. However, my schedule is a bit hectic these days so it may take a day or two for me to answer. Best regards, --Tone 07:31, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

Thank you...I do appreciate the help. Probably the first question would be; in reviewing my edit history, what area do you think I should work on before applying for Administration privileges. As you will probably note, I have worked and been a major contributor on several larger articles. However, a majority of my time is spent working on new articles to review for deletion. Any suggestions? Once again, thanks for the help. Have a great day. Shoessss 11:30, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

I've had a look at your edit history. You've done lots of good work already. Some suggestions I have:

• be a little more careful about edit summaries. Back in March and earlier, you didn't use them on several occasions.
• checking new pages is always appreciated. With admin tools, you will probably spend some time cleaning the CSD articles (this is why I use the tools for mostly). But before that, a good idea would be to spend some time at AfD discussions, you'll get experiences there. Often it's better to nominate an article for deletion instead of tagging it with sd, besides, many contributors are not spammers and act in good faith. But you know this already.
• (a technical one) it may be a good idea to write some general things about yourself on your userpage. Like what your fields of interest are and what articles you have heavily contributed on. It will make an evaluation at the time of nomination easier, writing new articles is hard to find among hundreds of reverts and article tagging.

So much for now. If I get some other ideas, I'll tell you. And ask me if you need anything. Have a nice day. --Tone 12:32, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

Once again, thanks for the input. As always it is appreciated. Shoessss 20:58, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

Hey Guy! Just wanted to say…..”Welcome Back”! • ShoesssS ^Talk 01:09, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

Vandalčić

Tukaj: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Slovenia&diff=129195531&oldid=129061882 --AndrejJ 21:15, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

Impossible Puzzle

Lahko prosim pogledaš Impossible Puzzle; prejšnji članek s tem naslovom je bil zbrisan. --AndrejJ 22:30, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

Image

See Image:Beliavsky Bled 2002.jpg. --AndrejJ 05:46, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

Need Your Help Again

Hey Tone got my second question/request for advice. Just ran a cross a situation where I have an editor that is just an out right bigot. While reverting some edits he/she made I noticed their username could be taken as racist, depending on your point of view. What is the best way to handle this situation? Thanks for your help Shoessss 13:43, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

This one is a bit tricky. Which user do you have in mind? If a username is straightaway racist, the user probably gets a permanent block at the very beginning. But sometimes it is hard to judge. If you spot a user who is problematic, you should first contact him and try to reach a consensus. If this doesn't work and you are considering a block, the best solution is to report the user to the administrator's noticeboard so a third party can have a look at the situation and perform a block if needed. IMO, it is always better to ask another admin for a block if you are involved in a dispute. I hope I answered you. --Tone 13:58, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

Thanks guy!! Yes you did. Appreciate your help. By the way, not an Adminstator yet! Holding off for a little while before applying. Just to make sure I put my best foot forward. Have a great day. Shoessss 14:01, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

Sorry To Drag You Into This

Hey Tone, I’m sorry to drag you into this one, but can you mediate a situation that is going on at Channon Christian and Christopher Newsom murder. Appreciate your input on the situation. I’ll let you read the discussion page and decide the method of resolving the disagreement.Shoessss 22:39, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

P.S. Never thought I be this much a pain in the butt……did ya. Shoessss 23:10, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

Ok, I came around this one a little late. I am sorry to say that I won't be around for a while so I won't be able to mediate the discussion. As I see, the debate developed into a hot one. For now, I suggest you stay cool and wait for an hour or two before you write any strong comments into the debate. It usually works. But the topic would need a mediator indeed, you can ask someone listed at WP:MC, they'll be glad to help. Just stay cool and I wish you a good resolution. --Tone 16:22, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

Thanks guy. Hope everything goes well.Shoessss 16:35, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

List of miniature and terrain manufacturers

An editor has asked for a deletion review of List of miniature and terrain manufacturers. Since you closed the deletion discussion for this article or speedy-deleted it, you might want to participate in the deletion review. Rindis 20:18, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

WHY DID YOU DELETE THAT?!!! IT WAS IRREPLACEABLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I had an image called Bushler.jpg. That image was given to me by the artist via AOL instant messenger. I no longer have that image on my hard drive, as it crashed and it was never posted on the internet and cannot be found on any website except for my Wikipedia page. It was also not used in any other article. If you have a copy of the image, then please give it to me, as it will be very difficult for me to get another copy. You gave me no warning whatsoever and did not allow me to place the proper licensing on it, so I am very very very angry at you right now because that was a high quality, rare image that is very difficult to get ahold of. It was a favorite of mine and I don't have another copy of it ANYWHERE. ToxicArtichoke 17:22, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

Hi. The image was classified as a fair use image but it was not used in any articles. I can restore it so you can copy it on your disk but if you want it to stay on WP, you have to do something about the licence. Regards, --Tone 20:36, 27 May 2007 (UTC)

Searching for deleted Delirious Games article

Hi Tone, I was writing to find out why the entry for Delirious Games had been deleted. Hopefully, I can provide you with the information you need to verify it or insure that the article will survive this time.

Sincerely, Dan Chisholm

Co-founder, Delirious Games danchisholm@gmail.com

Hello. The article says that the company hasn't produced any video games yet. So there may be an obstacle regarding the notability criteria. If you could provide those, I think it should be ok. The same goes for the second article you asked. Regadrs, --Tone 20:36, 27 May 2007 (UTC)

Hi Tone,

Thanks - I went back and added references/citiations to the 'Daniel Chisholm' page. The Delirious page is kind of tricky though. Yes, you're correct, we haven't produced a game yet and we're under a strict non-disclosure agreement with our partner not to until they make a press release. I do reference the Delirious webpage though and we are members of a couple of prominent video game associations.

Ok, just wait for the release. Until then, the notice in the other article should suffice. Regards, --Tone 07:03, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

Hi Tone, One last question for you... I added some references to the Daniel Chisholm article, but it still has a box at the top of the page that says "This article does not cite any references or sources.", which is no longer true. Is there something I need to or will someone verify the article in a few days and see that it now indeed does cite some references?

Thanks! -Dan June 5, 2007

Well, when you add the references, you can also remove the template yourself :-) I trimmed the style a bit and it should be fine now. Regards, --Tone 08:01, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

Missing Daniel Chisholm article

Hi Tone,

It looks as if the article regarding myself was also speedy-deleted. I've reposted it, and the details can be verified from IMDb or MobyGames.com. Please let me know what else I can do to help insure its survival. It is factual and I'll be glad to give you whatever details needed.

My agent, Seamus Blackley, has a similar page and I would like to have those kind of details about my company Delirious Games and myself.

Thanks again, Dan danchisholm@gmail.com

Clarification deletion of ClearBrick

Tone -

I was hoping for some clarification on the deletion of ClearBrick. The article was very simple and factual, and no different than several similar entries for articles on Forrester Research, Gartner, and others. Any clarification you can provide will greatly help me for any future posts and edits. Thanks in advance!

Rghoward 22:38, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

Hi. The thing that was missing in the article was assertion of notability. Please see WP:CORP and try to meet the criteria. I hope it helps, you can also ask me, if you need more help. Regards, --Tone 07:03, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

Coalition to Uproot Ragging from Education

Hi Tone,

Coalition to Uproot Ragging from Education was mistakenly marked for speedy deletion. Coalition to Uproot Ragging from Education is a non-profit organisation and there no advertisement/company/product that is being sold. You can visit the website at http://www.noragging.com

I wish to reinstate the page. Is there a way to do so?

thanks and regards

Mohit

Ok, restored. The deletion was a bit too fast, sorry. Regards, --Tone 07:03, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

Thanks Tone. Regards, -- Mohrahit 12:57, 1 June 2007 (IST)

Austin Film Critics Association

Hi, I saw the tag on it this morning, threw a hangon tag at the top and it was deleted just a few hours later. Are all groups supposed to be deleted? If so everything under Category:Film critics association should be deleted and it would seem that would have already been done... Thanks. Cnota 21:23, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

I see this article was deleted once before after tagged as prod. To get a consensus, I suggest you nominate it at the deletion review. I don't oppose restoring it but I would prefer have some more opinions. Regards. --Tone 07:27, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

Red Herring Surf

Hi Tone. Not sure if you realised, but this article had been "kept" at an AFD before, so wasn't eligible for speedy deletion. I've edited out the blatant advertising now anyway (I wish more people would do that instead of tagging them with db-spam ...), so it should be ok. Best, Neil ╦ 20:56, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, sometimes it's hard to judge all the details... Indeed, it's ok now and I think I have enough deletions for a while. Deleting too many things in one day makes the judgement a bit blurry... Regards. --Tone 21:01, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

Ogalo

WHY did you delete the Ogalo article? --Mikecraig 22:33, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

It didn't read very neutral. I restored it but please, trimm it a bit more. Regards. --Tone 22:41, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

You need to look at the hundreds of POV and biased articles that exist on WP for products, brands, companies...etc - this one is an Australian company and similar to other food outlets, restaurants (inc Oporto, Nandos..etc). --Mikecraig 22:45, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

I know, I know... well, Wikipedia is a growing process and is far from perfect. Let's give it some time... --Tone 22:46, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

Unwarranted deletion of Beerenberg Farm article

I am the author of the article on Beerenberg Farm. I note you have deleted it. Would you kindly reinstate the article. It is about an important South Australian business.Fitzpatrickjm 23:49, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

[borderline personal attack removed] —Moondyne 01:13, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

I am inclined to agree that the company is notable and deserving of an article. I live on the other side of the country and know that brand name well. The article does need improvement however. —Moondyne 01:13, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

Ok, restored. Adding references and wikification of the text would be agood idea, by the way. --Tone 07:47, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

Criminal MPs

Why the hell did u delete my page on Criminal MPs? Tri400 07:36, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

The article was evry short, providing no sources and it was not clear what it was about. I invite you to rewrite it, at the moment, it was not appropriate for an encyclopedia. Regards, --Tone 07:52, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

I invite you to re-install that page. There was no need to remove it so dam quickly. It was a factual page with links within Wikipedia to Sibu Soren and Phoolan Devi etc. It was a page of an EXISTING CATEGORY Criminal-MPs. Tri400 18:07, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

There was no other content than links to other articles. If you are planning to add more content and most of all, provide sources, I am willing to restore the article. I am unfamiliar with the whole situation but check WP:ATTACK. This was the main reason the article got deleted in the first place. --Tone 18:15, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

If you are unfamiliar with the situation, as you said, then you had no right to remove the page. BTW Corruption is rampant in India and many other nations, but since the last few years the system has been getting cleaned up: Sibu Soren was the 1st ever Federal Parliamentarian in India to be found guilty of murder. This was a page to provide information on the extrodinary situation of having criminals winning local elections. Tri400 14:31, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

You can't say I have no right to remove an unsoursed page that can possibly be a personal attack. Of course, if you can provide the reference and expand the article, I won't complain at all. Regards. --Tone 18:42, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

Fintan MacCarthy

I do not know what is happening here. Did you delete this article? If you did, what are you planning to do about its talk page? If not, well then sorry for the query. If found this in a Google search as the talk page exists in isolation.--Natsubee 15:36, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

Right, seems I missed the talk page. I deleted it now. Thanks for the remark. --Tone 16:43, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

Tanya Kach

You seem to have deleted the article. Although the last time I saw it, it was a redirect to Kidnapping, it did have a article history with non sub-stub entries. Take a look at the deletion log and the DRV at Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2007 June 2. - hahnchen 21:08, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

If I understood correctly, this article was nominated for deletion, the result was to delete and the useful content was moved into another article. A redrect doesn't make much sense, does it? --Tone 21:21, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

There hasn't been an AFD nomination. A procedural one was opened and quickly (erroneously) shot down, when an administrator speedily deleted the article, pretty much ignoring all arguments at DRV apart from those which were congruent to his own. The same administrator, after some prodding by another administrator (User_talk:Doc_glasgow#AfD_Kach), then restored it. It was made into a redirect (albeit without discussion). I am guessing that some user swapped it to a substub, and then tagged it to try and illicit a backdoor speedy, which is where you come in. I'm sure that when you looked at the empty article (or whatever it was), it looked like a speedy candidate, but what was in the history was a sourced article on a kidnapping case. - hahnchen 21:41, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

Ok, I'll restore it. Actually, I checked what was going on with the article before and I thought the problem was resolved and contents moved somewhere else. Complicated one... --Tone 21:46, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

RAC AutoWindscreens

Hi, I was wondering if you could undelete RAC AutoWindscreens - there was a merge tag on it and I didn't get round to merging it with RAC plc. I would appreciate it if you could undelete it for one day and I will see if there is actually anything worth merging. I will then tag it for speedy deletion again. Thanks - Kneale 19:46, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

Ok, done. --Tone 20:01, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

• All merged, thanks for your assistance - Kneale 13:38, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

Scopical - Deletion

This is a legitimate company based in Australia in an up and coming market providing a new service. No discussion was present and was clearly a worthy article for publication and would provide third party information on its establishment.

Ok, I will restore it and list it on AfD. Regards. --Tone 16:02, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

For future reference (this one is snowballing delete, good job finding it!), the good thing about listing such useless articles on AfD is that although it wastes the community's time considering them, once deleted a recreation automatically fails CSD G4. Orderinchaos 21:13, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

Andrej Preston

See: Talk:Andrej Preston ;-) --AndrejJ 08:24, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

Vital Voranau

why did you delete this article? where is the prove of abuse? i helped with the Polish article, there are tens of different articles in Polish and foreign newspapers about translations of this author. i can read some belarusian and the similar information can be found in belarusian internet. why you don't just write to belarusian wikipedia (be.wikipedia) for confirmation? i did this before, they can answer you in english.

http://www.ksiazka.net.pl/News,file,article,sid,10128.htm http://www.tutej.pl/cms.php?i=22935 http://samuel-beckett.net/ http://www.dziejaslou.by/inter/dzeja/dzeja.nsf/htmlpage/Search25?OpenDocument

Ok, restored. But I am concerned about the comment on the talk page so I am opening a discussion. Regards. --Tone 08:07, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

Ante Pavelić

Hi. Please note that the article on State of Slovenes, Croats and Serbs specifically states that the Dr Ante Pavelić who was one of its two vice-presidents was not the same man as Ante Pavelić the WW2 fascist leader, which is why your recent edit has been reverted. -- Arwel (talk) 17:45, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

Ok, you're right. Sorry. --Tone 19:19, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

DRV - Bustech

An editor has asked for a deletion review of Bustech. Since you closed the deletion discussion for this article or speedy-deleted it, you might want to participate in the deletion review. --Arnzy (talk · contribs) 08:08, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

DRV - Nicholas Saunders (Vice-Chancellor)

An editor has asked for a deletion review of Nicholas Saunders (Vice-Chancellor). Since you closed the deletion discussion for this article or speedy-deleted it, you might want to participate in the deletion review. David Newton 11:58, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

Ask Me 3

Can you explain why Ask Me 3 was deleted. I would like to understand and address the problem. Ask Me 3 is an educational tool FREE of charge to healthcare providers. It is not an advertisement. Please also explain how I can adress the copyright violation issue. Thanks.

Hi. The reason the article was deleted was that it was a copy from the stated website. You shouldn't do it unless you are the author of the website. What to do... I suggest you rewrite the article in your own words, state the notability, provide sources... There's more to read at WP:MOS. Regards. --Tone 17:38, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

Romano German

Why do you keep erasing the Romano German article. It is well written save for a few grammer errors, for english isnt my native tounge. Secondly it did have 5 proper refrences. Wiki has Romano British, and Roman Gaul, but no Romano German? Besides for its sincere relavence, compared to articles on porn stars, and video games, its an important part of history..I cant even restore it for some reason to work on grammer. Please do something. --ProfMozart 02:48, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

Ok, restored. --Tone 08:08, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

I personally see no reason for restoring a past version of this page. This author has been unwilling to comply to policy or proper format. The article has gone through 2 deletions for good reason. Several authors have offered suggestions but ProfMozart just erases them. Now I understand that he has said he will improve the article but given that chance before he failed to improve the article at all. Plus 3 of the references ProfMozart listed are to poets and the other one is to a work that has been unable to be located anywhere. Please reconsider your actions in restoring this article. Xtreme racer 23:52, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

Well, let's give the author a couple of days to improve the article. Otherwise, we can still delete it. I'll keep an eye on it. --Tone 07:23, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

Just wanted to mention that the restore deleted the previous talk page, which was linked from this user talk page. -- Rob C (Alarob) 23:54, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

Smallville music

Hello, I'm not seeing what part of WP:NOT music fails -- so I've reverted your edits. It's OOU information, and certainly isn't indiscriminate. Feel free to bring it up on the discussion page if you feel differently, so that consensus may be achieved. Matthew 12:38, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

It's one of the subpages, wait... I found it. It's written here: Wikipedia:Television episodes#Things to avoid. I should've been more precise. It is at least unencyclopedical and bears no significance. Shall we move this discussion to a talkpage of some article? --Tone 12:44, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

Somebody has apparently just added that, recently. As it states: "Original song lyrics for a television episode breach copyright. References to featured music should be supported by reliable sources to establish notability. Do not just list music: Wikipedia is not a directory." (a primary source is a reliable source, the episode is source), opening a discussion sounds good to me. Matthew 12:48, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

The establish notability is the one that bothers me. Ok, there is a song or two by a reputed author in some episodes but how does this improve the significance? For a discussion, I suggest Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Television. --Tone 12:51, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

I've often found that music plays quite a significant part of an episode (often aiding in building a scene). Admittedly I've not seen past season one of Smallville yet... so I can't comment 100%. But it does seem relevant to me. I'd prefer it if we could get some secondary sources for the information as well. Matthew 12:55, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

I'm all for discussion -- I'd much rather gain consensus on the issue than edit war, and I'll start one after I return in about five minutes (if one hasn't already been started). Matthew 13:12, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

I've informed him that consensus was reached there, and that is he could turn it into encyclopedic prose then that was ok, but I feel this section already covers it. I have also informed him that he has reached his 3 reverts for this 24 hour period. Also, I've already gone through the only 2 commentaries for the first season, for the pilot and the second episode. There is no mention of the songs beyond "that is a good song, and they are usually difficult to contract" on the entire two commentary reels. The makers obviously didn't put any emphasis on it. Also, "help building a scene" isn't relevant when you don't know what song was in what scene.  BIGNOLE  (Contact me) 12:56, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

Simple list doesn't hold encyclopedic value. Matt says it helps build the scenes, ok, find third party sources that discuss Smallville's use of music to build scenes. Otherwise, that's just a personal opinion, that doesn't even help when you don't know what scenes go to which music. As of right now, it's simple trivia.  BIGNOLE  (Contact me) 13:06, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

My opinions are irrelevant to the article, as they won't be listed. I would expect Smallville's music has been discussed, however. I'll have a look around -- some examples may strengthen my argument. Matthew 13:12, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

Everyone's opinions are irrelevant to the article, not just yours. here's a source that mentions that most of the artists try and contract with TV shows because it helps their album sales. You can't simply have a list of music and say it's encyclopedic. Where is the value? A song name? This isn't a fansite.  BIGNOLE  (Contact me) 13:17, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

I'm not sure what you are stating when you talk about artists contacting the shows. You then talk about fansites, please stick to the core issue: listing music. I quickly find a verifiable secondary source with a Google search (click). The source is reliable, as per WP:RS -- authoritative and has a history of stability. Matthew 13:24, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

Kryptonsite is an external link, and a fansite. They list all the songs for us (as they wouldn't be normally included as just a list). There is no encyclopedic value to them. Secondly, Krpytonsite hasn't updated their list in awhile. Have you found a secondary source that discusses the use of music in those episodes? You're simply creating a directory of songs to episodes. And yes, I'm searching alongside you. I'd like to see the music section expanded to include reasons why they choose songs, or at least some interpretations of what the songs do for the show. Otherwise, it's nothing more than a directory, that can be found on any fansite, or IMDB.com.  BIGNOLE  (Contact me) 13:29, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

(edit conflict) Uh-huh, "Kryptonsite is an external link": Well, what was you expecting :-\? Being a fan site doesn't disqualify a website from being a RS... your average Joe fansite isn't a RS, though. Even if they haven't updated their list, that doesn't disqualify it from being a valid source for the episodes it has listed. Matthew 13:35, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

Ok, good. We have a reliable source (to some degree). I've checked the talk pages, seems the problem was rised once before but with no comments (Season 1 talk). The fact that songs appear in the episodes benefits to the singers and to the producers, presumably. Still, I don't find the fact that some song was featured in a particular episode significant for the episode as itself, but it might be a good idea to expand the Music section in the Smallville article. There, I find appropriate to mention that the episodes usually feature contemporary music hits and give some examples. --Tone 13:32, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

Expanding the music section with some of the more notable examples works for me. Matthew 13:35, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

IMDb contains the same list, and is probably updated with season 6 songs. The point isn't just verifying what songs were in the episodes, but why they were there. I read in The Stanford Daily, that Smallville may have/had the highest number of music artists per episode of any show. The problem is that the author is like "I think I heard somewhere", and I have yet to find the original source (which could have just been a friend on his). I think that would be good to have, because it discusses this marketing tool of using all these songs in one episode. I didn't say it disqualified KS, I said that it being there already gave us a link to a comprehensive list of every song on the show, as does IMDb. But that isn't what Wikipedia is about. As I stated, Wiki isn't a directory for songs.  BIGNOLE  (Contact me) 13:37, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

(edit conflict) Good. Do we have a consensus? Of course, we can bring more people to the debate if you think we should. If you have time, could you expand the section some time in future? Funny, I know the series only briefly and I've seen just a couple of episodes. I came across the articles coincidently and corrected them. I didn't expect such a debate :-) Anyway, it was a constructive one, after all. --Tone 13:41, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

I've been searching my 'work' butt off, but I haven't come across people discussing the importance of the music as a whole to the series, not even on an individual episode basis, which would help me expand the episode pages some more. Though, I'm limited to what I can view at work, a lot of the larger news organizations are in subscriptioned areas.  BIGNOLE  (Contact me) 13:47, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

Shouldn't this discussion be on the smallville talk page in question? At least someone should copy and paste it there for future reference, otherwise we'll have this discussion all over again. Wrad 16:27, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

Adoptee

Hello, Iomesus! I see that you have expressed an interest in being adopted by an experienced editor. I accept your request, being an experienced editor myself. Whether you want to learn about wiki markup, find something to do, or just talk to somebody, I'm the one you can talk to - just leave a message on my talk page. Good luck with Wikipedia!--Tone 18:10, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for responding to my request, Tone. I'd be delighted if you could adopt me. My ultimate goal on Wikipedia is to be able to make contributions to, and hopefully improve upon, the science and mathematics articles. That goal is some way off yet. Primarily this is because I'm still in 6th form and I simply lack of experience to be able to make qualified contributions. So at the moment I'm sticking to correcting spelling and grammatical mistakes, improving formatting, and reverting vandalism (I say that with some authority, but I don't really know what I'm doing!).

Now, is there some official way that you accept me as an adoptee? Thanks again, I really appreciate this. Iomesus 18:38, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

Non-notable company article for deletion

Thanks for gonging Supreme. Could you give some consideration to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Center for Urological Regional Entrepreneurship? I'm concerned that AfD will time out before anyone comments. / edgarde 20:29, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. I feel much better now. :) / edgarde 20:48, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

Don't worry. Sometimes it takes time. Still, a closing admin can make a decision as well. When you nominate an article, you can also sort it (AfD sort) so that it draws more attention. --Tone 20:52, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

Good to know. Thanks. / edgarde 21:25, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

Rozoil

Tone - why have you deleted the Rozoil article. Oil and discount companies are all over wikipedia.

Check the other articles about the topic. The one we speak about is nothing but an advertisment and as such has no place on Wikipedia. I will delete it again, try to write it in the neutral way. See WP:CORP. Regards. --Tone 21:05, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

why have u removed http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Supreme_%28skateboard_company%29&action=edit ?

thanks!

See Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Supreme (skateboard company). Regards. --Tone 22:06, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

Tjolgtjar

You deleted the page Tjolgtjar without checking information. The page was deleted within 1 hour of completion. Tjolgtjar has released two albums on a major metal label. Tjolgtjar has been interviewed as well as featured numerous times in Metal Maniacs (USA), Terrorizer (UK), and Zero Tolerance (UK), both major publications available in most stores. There are more bands on Wikipedia with lesser accomplishments under their belts. All of these things can be checked with through the magazines themselves, and the label. Do your job, please, and thank you. By the way, I personally own all the artwork (I was the designer) for Tjolgtjar album covers. Photocopies of around a dozen magazine articles can also be sent to a proper home address for proof. Anything that needs changed should be noted, and I will change it. I do not understand why this band was deleted so fast, while other bands with minimal releases on small unknown independent labels - many of them the labels "owned" by the bands - and no notable press are featured throughout wikipedia. JPEGS can be deleted from the article, as well as any other info that needs refined. Also, you deleted it without discussing it in the talk section, where I outlined every reason that I added this to wikipedia. I'm open to ANYTHING you need done so that this page stays up. If this page did not meet certain requirements, then there are many, MANY bands on wikipedia that need deleted now. Just check the metal sections. Some bands on here exist only in their own band members' lives.

Ok, restored. See WP:BAND for guidelines how to improve the article. Most important, add references and state notability as you did on the talk page. Regards. --Tone 08:07, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

You deleted an article and I was wondering what I needed to do to correct the problems you had

You recently deleted an article on "John Augenblick". I believe that John Augenblick is a person that made a substantial contribution to his field: educational finance. Please search google and see for yourself (there are 721 pages for "John Augenblick," most of which relate to this person). I also believe that there are articles, such as http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Claremont_Decision that would be better if they pointed to information about him:

"The Claremont lawsuit was brought on behalf of five school districts that could not afford to properly fund their schools based on local property taxes. This was the second suit of this nature against the State of New Hampshire. The first suit was brought in the early 1980s and was settled when the State agreed to contribute 8% of the cost of education to a fund targeted to aid poor districts. The formula by which the money was distributed was designed by ***Prof John Augenblick*** and was called the Augenblick formula."

What do I need to do to make the page less of an "advertisement" and more of a biography? (I am new to Wikipedia)

There are multiple interviews with him on the web, such as: http://www.therochesterdemocrat.com/index.php/welcome/comments/property_taxes_questioned_as_prices_zoom/ http://www.enquirer.com/editions/1998/06/30/loc_skul30.htmlc http://www.reviewjournal.com/lvrj_home/2006/Jun-03-Sat-2006/news/7757561.html

Should I include these? Should I remove the links / mention of his business?

I am not intending to create an advertisement. Thanks.

PS I think that the article is called "John Augenblick" rather than just John Augenblick. How do I remove the quotes?

Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:%22John_Augenblick%22"

See Talk:"John Augenblick", someone already answered you there. Regards. --Tone 08:07, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

Deletion of Healthcare Reviews

Hi. I am new to wikipedia and would like to contribute an article on the lack of independent healthcare reviews and it's effects on the healthcare industry. I believe my original article over emphasized my website healthcarereviews.com rather than the issue of no healthcare reviews and the resulting poor healthcare servies. Can I edit my previously deleted article, this time emphasing the new solution of online patient ratings and reviews for this problem? Or is this unacceptable content too, or should I just re-submit a new article rather than try to delete the old one?

Article deleted: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Healthcare_Reviews

thanks for any input,

Paul L

Hi. Sure, you can rewrite the article in the way you proposed. Don't forget, to assert the notability you'll need to add some external references. I'll restore the previous version now. Regards, --Tone 16:05, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

Thank you

Hi Tone, Thank you for your comments at my RfA. Let me know if I can help you and feel free to let me know if I mess up anywhere. Cheers. Shyamal 03:07, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

One Gud Cide

In regards to your deletion of a page I created:

As I asserted why the content was notable in both the talk page and the page proper, the article did not qualify for speedy deletion. I added the hangon tag yet the article was deleted within aproximately 15 minutes as I created a defense on the talk page. This defense was deleted when I recreated the article. also: in wiki language this article was, at worst a "Non-notable subject with [its] importance asserted" meaning that it did not qualify for speedy deletion. It would be great if you could recreate the article so I could add more information about the artist and continue to assert its notability. Thanks. Claphands 15:59, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

Ok, restored. You're free to work on the article now. Regards, --Tone 16:22, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

Thanks! Claphands 17:48, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

Ck lostsword's RfA - Thanks

	Thanks very much for your support in my recent RfA, which passed successfully at 40/2/1, making me Wikipedia's 1,250th administrator. Your comments were much appreciated, and I will endeavour to fulfil your expectations as an admin. ck lostsword • T • C
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ck lostsword • T • C 17:42, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

Stargate

My apologies. I was a bit rash there. Chris Buttigieg^talk 08:18, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

Translations.com

I would like to question the deletion of Translation.com entry as it is a worldwide company with influence in the globalisation of international businesses. With almost all of the Fortune 1000 as customers, and Translations.com is also I pioneer in many website technology developments. The article can be linked to products such as ABREVE and TransPerfect and also for its sponsorship of the chartity race in associaltion with Blue Ribbon. It is in the public interest for this article to be reinstated. NPOV edits will be made.

Ok, if you make sure that the article will be made NPOV, I see no problem in restoring. Regards. --Tone 12:36, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

DELETION of Sheckymagazine.com

Dear Tone:

I am puzzled as to why the entry for SHECKYmagazine.com was deleted.

If you can let me know how to alter it, I'll alter it.

I am fairly certain we met the notability criteria... citations/quotations in NYPost, USA Today, National Public Radio's All Things Considered, the Wall Street Journal, Philadelphia Inquirer, WCBS Radio (NYC)-- all major mainstream outlet. There are other, somewhat similar, websites on the WWW, but none of them match ours for credibility, insight, longevity or popularity. We have visitors from all over the globe-- Canada, Australia, Holland, U.K., Ivory Coast-- we even get the occasional hit from Ljubljana (seriously!). Our traffic is substantial-- 65,000 unique visits per month, on average. One million hits in March, 600,000 on average per month.

We regularly publish original material, some of it scholaraly, some of it whimsical, all of it written by professional comedians, writers, performers with national/international reputations. Our original columns are considered by standup comics, industry and fans to be the best writing about standup comedy to be found anywhere.

The list of comedians we've interviewed is impressive-- Lewis Black, Richard Lewis, Shelley Berman, Brett Butler, Mitch Hedberg, Dick Cavett, just to name a handful, all of them major figures in standup comedy.

Recent original/exclusive pieces included an appreciation of the late actor Charles Nelson Reilly written by Paul Provenza, the producer of the hit US documentary "The Aristocrats," and a lengthy and fascinating essay on Lenny Bruce by Ed Azlant, film academic, screenwriter and editor of the Lenny Bruce albums 'Curran Theater' and 'Thank You Masked Man' Our coverage of the world's largest comedy festival has been, for eight years running, the only extensive coverage of that gathering to be found in the US or Canada or the world.

We've each been in the comedy business, as professional comedians and writers, for over two decades. I started in 1981, Traci in 1984. So, we're experienced professionals who have worked in every conceivable circumstance, in all 50 US states and in three Canadian provinces. I have a degree in Journalism from Temple University, so I am not just some goofball with a "homepage."

I didn't save a copy, so if you have one, and you could get it to me somehow, I could work from it.

Thanks.

Bmckim 12:55, 19 June 2007 (UTC)Brian McKim Editor/Publisher SHECKYmagazine.com

Hi. The problems with the article are:

• It's written in first person (we've been quoted...)
• You mention several references but you actually provide none.
• It's written in WP:POV. Exclamation marks and words like impressive don't really fit.
• The style is bad. See WP:MOS.

Anyway, from what you told me, I think the magazine meets the notability criteria. I am sure you can rewrite it, considering my comments. I'll post the copy of the text on your talkpage but I suggest you start from the beginning. Regards. --Tone 13:30, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

Texas Manufacturing Assistance Center

Hi Tone,

You deleted my new article the Texas Manufacturing Assistance Center (TMAC). It is a non-profit organization that provides technical assistance to businesses in the state of Texas. They also serve as a voice for industry. The organization operates through a grant from the Department of Commerce of the USA Government.

It is article worthy to wikipedia because TMAC serves as a source of information to over 21,000 residence in Texas and they are operating for the sole benifit of citizens--not to make money. What better place for them to read about this organization than Wikipedia? Please see www.tmac.org if you are curious about any further information, or contact me directly:

Thanks,

Edward Latson elatson@uta.com

Hi. The article you submitted was extremly short and it had no references and no external links. Besides, the notability was not stated. Try to comply with these guidelines and the article should be ok. Regards. --Tone 13:07, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

Deletion of Stack Bundles

I saw you were the deleting admin earlier today for this article. Is it possible this article can be salted, as it has been recreated again for the 2nd time today alone. This article already has had an AfD and was voted to be deleted, and I have left requests on the talk page to have an editor request for the page to be restored in deletion review. Wildthing61476 21:29, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

You can list an article for a deletion review yourself as well. See WP:DRV for details. Regards. --Tone 21:51, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

SHECKYmagazine.com NPOV issues resolved...

...or at least it is hoped.

I went through it, re-wrote it, then, when I saw the box at the top that said it was too Press Release-y and didn't conform to the NPOV regs, I edited it some more.

Lemme know if it's still hinky.

Thanks!

Yes, there are still no references. See WP:CITE for the way to cite sources properly. And don't use bold text apart from title. Otherwise, the article is better now. Regards. --Tone 13:07, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

Naked Neck

Hi; just for the record, the naked neck chicken does actually exist, although I would agree that the article which you deleted (while I was considering it) was not a good article. I have made no change to your action.--Anthony.bradbury^"talk" 22:02, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

Acknowledged. Thank you for checking. --Tone 22:03, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

Thank you...

...for you support at my RFA. Looks like you have been doing this for a while, so please let me know if you have any suggestions on where I can help out. I've already discovered the constant backlog at CSD.--Kubigula (talk) 03:48, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

Kyi-Leo deletion

I received a speedy deletion notice yesterday on my 'Kyi-Leo' article - which I contested. Your reason is that is is blatant advertising but I do not see where that is at all. There was a few pro-Kyi-Leo sentences, which I took out shortly after the notice ... making the article much more objective. But then it was deleted this morning by you. Why? I still do not see where there was blatant advertising... I was describing both the good and bad qualities of the breed. In any case, it's in your hands.

--Davmid055 18:48, 21 June 2007 (UTC)David Midkiff

There are some copyright symbols. You should avoid using those in the article. Otherwise... it would be ok if you could trim it a little. I will restore it for you. Regards. --Tone 20:19, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

Byron Long

I noticed tonight that the article on Byron Long was deleted in early April following a speedy deletion nomination. Due to the way speedy deletions are set up, I'm having trouble finding that original nomination, but I found some discussion of it on a couple of talk pages. On the nominator's talk page, his justification is apparently that, because it calls Byron Long a "porn actor", it is "controversial in tone", which is a criterion for speedy deletion if it is unsourced. However, as several mirrors indicate and the nominator himself recognizes on that very same talk page, the article did in fact have a source (and if it is recreated I can put up some more). According to the policy, having a source would invalidate his argument that the article should be speedily deleted, and yet he still requested this! I'm looking over the criteria for speedy deletion and I can find nothing that applies to it. Since its speedy deletion was unjustified, I contend that it should be undeleted. -Branddobbe 09:40, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

Wow, a tricky one. I admit I didn't check all the debate at the nominator's talkpage but I didn't think it was neccessary. I'll restore the article, however, phrases like most prolific & well-endowed scream for references other than imdb. And the statement where he declares his orientation as well. I'll put a cite tag on it. Regards. --Tone 22:22, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

Restoration of Deletion

Hey Tone, I submitted the article which is part of my historical studies on the counts of the former nation of Galicia and Poland. I am not a seasoned contributor to Wikipedia so please forgive my naivity but I am not sure why my article was deleted. It is a perfect merger article and addition to the information you currently have on Galicia and Poland. Please retore the document and inform me what you will require me to do to maintain the information for others to study. Thank you, Rafal Heydel M.

Hi. I will be glad to help you but you should tell me the name of the article. I have recently deleted 100+ articles so it may be a bit time consuming to find it. We will see what to do then. Regards. --Tone 08:21, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

Dear Tone,

I am the author of www.geocities.com/polishnobles (now moved to www.polishnobles.com) I did not create this Wikipedia article. The person who has posted above and signed with my name is an impostor. I hereby assert my right as the author of the copied material and request that it be deleted from wikipedia. I would also request, if possible, that this contributor's IP address be recorded and appropriate action taken. Thank you. Sincerely, Rafal H-M March 2010

Article name: Counts of Galicia and Poland

Your reply: : Hi. I will be glad to help you but you should tell me the name of the article. I have recently deleted 100+ articles so it may be a bit time consuming to find it. We will see what to do then. Regards. --Tone 08:21, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

Hi there Tone, The name of the addition was "Counts of Galicia and Poland". Once it is restored would you please inform me briefly on what I need to do to differently in the future to submit and not be deleted. I thought I had followed the rules except for not noting the archives from which the information came. And I will gladly do that at the end of the article if that is best. Thank you.

Hi. The problem is that the content was copied from a website. If this is your website, everything is ok, you must just explicitly state that somewhere, preferably on the talkpage of the article. If you are not owner of the page, this is a violation of copyright and WP is pretty strict when it comes to this. So, if you are the owner, I can restore the article, no problem, but otherwise you have to write it with your own words. And don't forget to sign your posts on talkpages (use a button up there). Regards. --Tone 09:04, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

Dear Tone,

I am the author of www.geocities.com/polishnobles (now moved to www.polishnobles.com) I did not create this Wikipedia article. The person who has posted above and signed with my name is an impostor. I hereby assert my right as the author of the copied material and request that it be deleted from wikipedia. I would also request, if possible, that this contributor's IP address be recorded and appropriate action taken. Thank you. Sincerely, Rafal H-M

Hi. I see the article has just been deleted on the copyvio basis. The user who claimed the copyrights back in 2007 has not been active for more than a year and had just a couple of edits so I see no need for action here. I believe the problem is solved now. Best regards, --Tone 19:15, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

Deletion of "Traxon" page

Hi there,

could you possibly tell me, why you deleted the page Traxon yesterday night? If I get it right, you classified it as wiki spam. I would like to know, why you assumed it was SPAM, it had the official company's logo, links to the website, links to articles in professional magazines, neutral information that was linked to projects etc. I really do not get the point, what was wrong with the article. I actually put a lot of effort into the creation of the entire text, so I would really really like to know how to improve it that it stays in wikipedia! I tried to write it as neutral as I could. Please tell me what was in your opinion not ok. Thank you in advance!

Hm.... it really reads like an advertisment to me... In fact, the article was accused of being created by the company's pr department. I'll restore it but I am leaving the advert tag on it until someone fixes it. Regards. --Tone 15:39, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

Ok...I get your point. Thanks for the help. I tried to delete passages that sounded to much like advertising and tried to rephrase some as well. Actually I am still working on some sentences. I think the problem of many sources you have about companies are, that they are hardly ever neutral, so it's difficult to get all the pathos out of it. Well, I got the logo from the company because the ones that I found on google were un-useable! Gosh, those wikipedia articles really are time consuming! Thanks for the help. dopatx

Hi Tone, after your criticism I've changed quite a lot and deleted parts that might have seemed too biased for Wikipedia. Could you please get back to me regarding the quality of the article because as long as the tag is still there, I see myself failed in the entire matter. I would really like to improve the text that it becomes Wikipedia quality. I've also compared the Traxon article with quite some out of the same industry, such as Color Kinetics and Osram, which just have a stub and also Philips, which has just paaages of history and Barco for example, which have an article that is somehow comparable to ours but has no tag whatsoever. Thank you for your feedback. Best regards, dopatx

"Counts of Galicia and Poland"

Thank you Tone,

I understand that I must state that the webpage is mine and that I am the composer. Prior to this, I did not know to write that in the "Talk Page" but I understand now and can add that in according to your request. Please understand that it is my first time to submit informatin and I am just learning how to follow the rules. Please restore my article "Counts of Galicia and Poland" and allow me to add in the necessary information. Historic Studies 08:00, 28 June 2007 (UTC)Rafal Heydel-M.

Ok, restored. Regards. --Tone 09:10, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

Bowflex Machine deletion

Hi. I was curious about your speedy deletion of Bowflex Machine. I know absolutely nothing about exercise equipment and even I've heard the name Bowflex countless times and there seem to be reliable sources at the bottom. If it was the spammy sound of the article that caused you to speedy it, I've tried to rectify that, but your deletion reason was WP:CSD#A7 not WP:CSD#G11. Am I missing something? That article had been edited over 150 times since 2004 so something seems amiss. Let me know. Thanks. —Wknight94 (talk) 13:24, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

I see you've already restored it. Seems that it was tagged with the wrong csd tag but I suppose the article is good enough to stay. Regards. --Tone 15:39, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

Spam was definitely an issue. Notability isn't. At the risk of falling into the WP:POKEMON trap, if obscure two-album bands from the 1980s can have articles, surely an internationally-known piece of gym equipment in a large percentage of the nation's gyms and owned by however many millions of people (and getting nearly two million Google hits) sufficiently establishes notability. The 2004 recalls affected over 1.2 million machines which alone establishes a decent level of notability IMHO. —Wknight94 (talk) 16:17, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

Velta Snikere

Hi i was in the process of building up a wiki profile of my grandmother. She is a famous Latvian poet (who is having two biographies written about her) and i wanted to post a wiki article on her. I was gain to add a little day by day. Please can you restore this article so i can add to it. To verify her status as an award winning poet please Google her.

Thanks

Huw

Ok, restored. If you are building the article slowly, you can put a {{under construction}} template on it to notify other users. Regards. --Tone 16:12, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

The King of Kong

Why did you delete this article? It seems to me to be a perfectly noteworthy documentary film. It just hasn't been released so far so there is as yet not much to fill out the page. Thanks for your help. -- Grandpafootsoldier 19:07, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

It was tagged as not asserting notability. I guess we can restore it once it is released. Usually at the WP there are no articles about forthcoming films or books, with exceptions like the new Potter book and film. Regards. --Tone 20:18, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

Um, I'm positive that's not true. Why is there the {{Future film}} template specifically for upcoming films then? Whoever made that page just failed to put that in. Also, it obviously wasn't tagged for very long as I just looked at it a couple days ago and didn't see it marked for notability. Maybe you should hold off a bit on deleting pages so fast in the future. Thanks. -- Grandpafootsoldier 05:43, 30 June 2007 (UTC)