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August 30 - Thanks and draft naming question

Thanks for helping me get my new article draft in the right place! I am new at this. Unfortunately I realized too late that my page Draft:Lucid has the same name as Lucid. Do you know if I can change the title to something that hasn't been taken yet? A Wikipedia:Requested_moves? Thanks again for your help! Chaud321 (talk) 22:28, 30 August 2019 (UTC)

Hi Chaud321. I have moved your draft to Draft:Lucid (company). Since the article isn't on the mainspace there shouldn't be any real issues with name conflicts as Draft names aren't final. -Liance^{talk/contribs} 23:12, 30 August 2019 (UTC)

That's perfect! Thanks so much. Chaud321 (talk) 23:28, 30 August 2019 (UTC)

Sabine Dahinden now in Draft:Sabine Dahinden

Hi, Sabine Dahinden is almost a Celebrity in Switzerland. It is normal to have also an article in english. Best regards --Netpilots (talk) 13:43, 1 September 2019 (UTC)

Hi Netpilots. The draft currently does not have enough references to demonstrate the notability required for inclusion in the wiki per notability policies (see WP:BIO). Non-english sources are also acceptable if English sources are harder to find, if you feel that the subject has better coverage in another language it would be acceptable to use those as well. Hope this helps. -Liance^{talk/contribs} 18:12, 1 September 2019 (UTC)

Hi Liance She won a "Prix Walo" (2015) Prix_Walo#Award:_public_preferred_artists. One more reason to make the article relevant. --Netpilots (talk) 07:16, 2 September 2019 (UTC)

Request on 16:29:50, 02 September 2019 for assistance on AfC submission by JohnCena569

• https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:JohnCena569/sandbox

Hey Liance, hope all is well.

Thank you for taking the time to look at my article. I'm new to this and apologise if my knowledge is not up to scratch on all this.

I had a good look at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Notability_(music) and the other articles on Independent, reliable sources etc.

I'm having a little trouble understanding the degree of notability that a website/article must have and how this is determined before it can pass as a reliable source on wiki. I looked at a number of other Australian artists to best gauge what referencing was being used and thought the ones I had used for 'Jaycee's' article were up to standard, that being Independent and reliable.

Could you please help me in understanding which specific articles were not acceptable and why? and if possible, if there is anyway to determine beforehand the notability of an article before referencing again. I would hate to keep re-editing with insufficient reliable sources.

Thanks so much for your time! --JohnCena569 (talk) 06:29, 3 September 2019 (UTC)

Hi JohnCena569. Your draft was declined because the references in there generally did not show significant coverage. Most were links to streaming sites (i.e. iTunes), event listings or nonreliable user-contributed sources like Genius. Generally, the sources needed to show notability should be in-depth, not lists or passing mentions. For example, an article on a website like the New York Times would work. In addition, make sure your subject meets the criteria at WP:NMUSIC. Hope this helps. -Liance^{talk/contribs} 16:15, 3 September 2019 (UTC)

A cupcake for you!

Thank you for your help and hard work. I appreciate it. Hello-Mary-H (talk) 18:36, 3 September 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for the message! Happy editing. -Liance^{talk/contribs} 19:02, 3 September 2019 (UTC)

(Misplaced message)

Hi Liance! Thank you for your notes! I just want to make certain I understand the reason SheVibe,Inc. wasn’t accepted. From what I understand it was solely due to not having substantive press citations that are more than a passing mention as well as the citations I included not being from more well-known sources? I just want to make certain that I don’t have to address anything else. Thank you again for reviewing my proposed entry!

Best, Elle

Hi Ellechase. Another editor rejected your draft and left a comment (on your talk page) saying they felt it did not meet Wikipedia's company notability policy (WP:NCORP), which specifies the criteria a subject has to meet before it is considered for inclusion. The primary issue they noted was the usage of non-independent sources - references should have no affiliation with the subject and must show significant coverage. First and foremost, I would recommend removing all references to Wikipedia pages (as they noted) since it can't be used as a reference as well as sources that are retail websites or are affiliated with the subject, and then adding sources that help to satisfy criteria if possible. Hope this helps. -Liance^{talk/contribs} 22:29, 4 September 2019 (UTC)

Request on 22:23:29, 3 September 2019 for assistance on AfC submission by JGreene20

• JGreene20 (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:LIGO Documentary (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Liance, many thanks for your help on the LIGO Documentary submission. I have added further documentation, from the Bali Film Festival, where the film is showing this month, and the National Science Foundation, their funder. I steered clear of the kind of citations that were more promotion and advertising, which I believe is the right choice. It is an important documentary, and very new, as is detailed. I trust much new information and new documentation will be added in the coming months, but I hope this now is well enough defined that it can be accepted. Most important, the internal Wikipedia links to their production groups, Advanced LIGO Documentary Project and LIGO Scientific Collaboration reflect organizations already fully vetted by Wikipedia. Many thanks ~~John Greene~~

JGreene20 (talk) 22:23, 3 September 2019 (UTC)

Hi JGreene20. I still feel that your draft (Draft:LIGO Documentary) does not show that the subject is notable because none of your sources show significant coverage while also being secondary and independent. Please make sure your references are not affiliated with the subject, and have deep coverage of the subject. IMDb is not an acceptable reference. You should review Wikipedia's notability criteria WP:NN to make sure your submission is adequately supported to show notability. -Liance^{talk/contribs} 22:33, 4 September 2019 (UTC)

Are you able to review a draft again?

Hi Liance,

Thanks for taking the time to review "FinalStraw" in March. I updated the post and added 10+ citations. Are you able to take another look? If not, is there another way to have the page reviewed again?

Here is the link to the draft: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:FinalStraw — Preceding unsigned comment added by KariField (talk • contribs) 00:33, 5 September 2019 (UTC)

Thanks!

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Kari 9/4/19 — Preceding unsigned comment added by KariField (talk • contribs) 00:32, 5 September 2019 (UTC)

Hi KariField. You can always submit the draft for review again by putting {{subst:submit}} at the bottom of your draft. It will then be entered into the AfC queue and an editor should review it soon. Hope this helps. -Liance^{talk/contribs} 01:06, 5 September 2019 (UTC)

Help with an article

Hi Liance, Can you help me with an article? In case yes, how can I contact you to send you my draft? Admin User:RHaworth advised me to ask and contact a user for help, because he finds my article "spammy". Thanks, Biographitor (talk) 12:30, 7 September 2019 (UTC)

• (talk page stalker) Log out. Log in again as Wikinomicus. Follow the first three steps of these instructions. Then email your text to Liance. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 12:41, 7 September 2019 (UTC)

Thanks RHaworth. Yes Biographitor/Wikinomicus, feel free to email me once you have the text of your article, I would be happy to take a look at your draft. Best, -Liance^{talk/contribs} 18:56, 7 September 2019 (UTC)

Thank you both. Actually Biographitor is a different user, we were writing the article about Leon Zimmermann together. So you deleted a user without reason (I guess), RHaworth! Wikinomicus (talk) 15:24, 9 September 2019 (UTC)

Please advise

Thank you for your assistance, I appreciate any help I can get. I'm looking forward to seeing this page come to fruition. There are literraly hundreds of facts and references related to Mike Roche of TSOL. It's been a bit frustrating for figuring out the process although I'm enjoying the writing.Hopefully third times a charm. TVaughanSoCal (talk) 19:38, 8 September 2019 (UTC)TvaughanSoCal 090819 Did I do that right? lol

Hi TVaughanSoCal, I would advise taking a look at WP:NMUSIC, which lists some important criteria for notability related to music subjects, as well as WP:NPERSON and WP:NN for more general notability. As of now your draft is missing a lot of inline citations which are necessary for establishing notability coverage, so I would recommend finding some independent and secondary sources with significant coverage (e.g. a news article, book, etc) and adding them so that information and notability can be verified. Please let me know if you have any more questions. Thanks! -Liance^{talk/contribs} 20:09, 8 September 2019 (UTC)

Oh thank you I do have more questions

Hi Liance~ I do have more questions..Sorry to bug. Can you just do this for me??? lol Ok, I read both your suggesstions I appreciate all of this and I think I'm getting there. I added Billboard top 200 and a couple more things. Thank you bunches! TVaughanSoCal (talk) 20:43, 8 September 2019 (UTC)TVaughanSoCal 090819

It's good to see that you are making improvements. Remember that whenever you feel ready you can resubmit your draft for review. -Liance^{talk/contribs}

Draft: Lewis Rasmus Heim

Hello, I am contacting you to resolve the issue of reliable resources for my article on Lewis Heim.

For two of the references, shown below, I will have to send you a PDF of the articles. If you want PDFs, let me know.

Encyclopedia of American Biography, “Lewis R. Heim,” The American Historical Company, Vol. 35, 1966, 622-624 Fairfield War Plant Beats Nazis At Own Game, Bridgeport Sunday Post, April 23, 1944.

For the National Registor of Historic Places, please go to this link.

https://npgallery.nps.gov/NRHP/GetAsset/NRHP/89001087_text

The registration form is for a building but the reason for the registration of the building is due to the invention of the centerless grinder by Mr. Heim. Go to page 4, section 8 for an explanation of the significance.

For the reference titled "Lewis R. Heim, Mechanical Genius of Modern Industry", the ISBN of the book is: 9780997790726. The book has "ALL" the information including an extensive list of reliable resources. You can find the book on Amazon and other retailers.

Also, I want to mention that Wikipedia contains three articles related to Mr. Heim. One is an article on Centerless Grinding. However, whoever wrote it did not mention who invented it. My article resolves that issue.

Second, there is a Wikipedia article called "Rod End Bearing" that contains erroneous information on the inventor that needs to be corrected. As described in my article, Mr. Heim invented the rod end bearing and can be seen in Patent No. 2,366,668. You can find the patent on Google Patents or on the US Patent and Trademard Office website. I would provide a link but the link is unreliable so you would have to go to the website and enter the patent number. Also, in the Wiki article on the Rod End Bearing, you will notice that the bearing is called the "Heim Joint" for the inventor Lewis Heim.

Third, the Wikipedia article on the Ball and Roller Bearing Company, that was founded by Mr. Heim and cited in the registration form for the National Register of Historic Places. The Wiki article cites Mr. Heim as the inventor of the modern centerless grinding machine.

Please advise if this helps to resolve the issue of "reliable resources". If not, please advise what else I need to do to have my article approved. Thanks.

PS: If you want to contact me by email or phone, I am open to these alternatives.

Wikisetter54 ---- — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wikisetter54 (talk • contribs) 20:49, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

Hi Wikisetter54, I noticed that you have two drafts on the same subject - Draft:Lewis R. Heim and Draft:Lewis Rasmus Heim. Firstly, I would recommend you delete one of them and focus your efforts on the other one by placing {{db-author}} on the one you would like to delete. This way, editors won't get confused as to which draft you are trying to submit. Next, you should cite the PDFs directly on the articles provided they are available online, and if one of your references is offline (e.g. a newspaper or book) there is no problem with referencing that as well (just indicating its author, title, location, publisher/edition, etc with the relevant template); this way you can make sure your draft is supported by reliable sources. Lastly, if you think there are errors on any other pages, you can make those changes yourself - Wikipedia is editable by anyone, after all. Hope this helps. -Liance^{talk/contribs} 00:09, 14 September 2019 (UTC)

Regarding Reference Links for my submission.

Hi Liance, thanks for your feedback on my submission. I am looking for better examples which can help me in submission of my article. There are no strong refernces for this article as I am into Film and Cinema, articles about me are not available currently in any famous sources. Please help me out.

Thanks & Regards, Imjafar04 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Imjafar04 (talk • contribs) 04:34, 11 September 2019 (UTC)

Hi Imjafar04, please take a look at the notability criteria required for inclusion - if you cannot locate any reliable sources it is possible that the subject is not suitable for inclusion at this time. In addition, if you are writing an article about yourself, please note that it is highly discouraged - if you are notable, it is likely that someone will write an article about you eventually. -Liance^{talk/contribs} 00:12, 14 September 2019 (UTC)

will need your help

Dear Liance, Celebrtiy Chef Rakesh sethi is a most respected figures in Indian Culinary History , and he has been a great guide and mentor lot of chefs as i have seen him since my childhood and inspired by him strongly believe that his work can be an inspiration to one and all please help me in this article for Rakesh sethi — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sunnyparekh36 (talk • contribs) 11:57, 11 September 2019 (UTC)

Hey there Sunnyparekh36, please check the criteria for notability of living people - if they meet the criteria, then make sure you are including an adequate amount of references to support that. In addition, your supplied references are not inline citations - please see WP:Referencing for beginners if you need help on correctly formatting them. Hope this helps. -Liance^{talk/contribs} 00:15, 14 September 2019 (UTC)

Quick question on Jean Morrison draft

Good afternoon, Liance,

Thank you again for your help in reviewing the article submission I created for Jean Morrison. Just a quick check-in to make sure you have everything you need from me for this and to see if there's an estimated timeframe for review/publication. It goes without saying, but please let me know if there's any additional info I can provide.

Many, many thanks again, David Lazar --Davidjlazar (talk) 17:58, 13 September 2019 (UTC)

Hey Davidjlazar - currently your draft is submitted for review, and, due to the sheer number of draft articles awaiting review right now, it may take anywhere from a few days to several weeks for your article to be reviewed. In the meantime please make sure your draft is supported by secondary, independent, and reliable sources (not affiliated with the subject) that satisfy the wiki's academics biography criteria. -Liance^{talk/contribs} 00:18, 14 September 2019 (UTC)

Campaign (1999)

Thanks for moving the page to drafts. Are you able to recommend/approve this page for publication? Are there any changes you would recommend? Chris Lipscombe 23:58, 13 September 2019 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by ChristoLip (talk • contribs)

Hi ChristoLip - for changes, please make sure your draft meets the notability criteria through coverage shown in multiple reliable, independent, secondary sources. Adding references that support your subject's notability would greatly improve its likelihood of being accepted for inclusion. In addition, please note that IMDb is not a reliable source, and I recommend removing that from your draft. Hope this helps! -Liance^{talk/contribs} 00:20, 14 September 2019 (UTC)

Thanks -- I wasn't aware of IMDB's status. I'll remove that reference and look for others. Chris Lipscombe 00:30, 14 September 2019 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by ChristoLip (talk • contribs)

(Misplaced message)

Hi Liance,

Thanks for letting me know you moved the page to draft namespace Draft:Kym_Illman and suggesting I request you to proofread /improve the article. If you have time I would love you to do that. I've noted a conflict of interest and tried to make the article as neutral as possible but would greatly appreciate your feedback, --KymIllman (talk) 01:42, 16 September 2019 (UTC)

Hi KymIllman - I took a look at the references you provided, and just want to make sure you know that they should be non-trivial coverage of the subject, rather than passing mentions. Some of your sources don't cover the subject in any significant way, so I would suggest you remove those if you feel that they aren't necessary to the article. Additionally, I just want to remind you that writing an autobiography (which you appear to be doing) is highly discouraged, due to inherent issues with POV/bias. Hope this helps. -Liance^{talk/contribs} 02:48, 23 September 2019 (UTC)

Deb Lavender

Hi Lance,

Thank you for your fast response on moving my Deb Lavender article out of sandbox. I'm new to Wiki and believe I've possibly made a mistake in requesting the move. The article is actually a major edit of an existing stub, Deb Lavender. How do I preserve the edit history and move the article to its intended home, which is the Deb Lavender published page? It's my understanding pasting it over into Deb's page is not the preferred process.PatriciaBishop (talk) 11:24, 16 September 2019 (UTC)

Hi there PatriciaBishop - sorry I didn't realize it was actually an existing article. Next time, please just edit the actual article itself - this can prevent issues with copy-paste moves and make edit history more seamless. I would recommend copying/rewriting the parts that you added to your draft to the live article manually, since there are two separate edit histories there is no easy way to merge them. Please be careful not to delete other editors' work in the process! Hope this helps. -Liance^{talk/contribs} 02:50, 23 September 2019 (UTC)

Hi Liance Thank you! Have a great day.PatriciaBishop (talk) 12:10, 23 September 2019 (UTC)

New User

Hi John,

Thank you. I am new to Wikipedia and want to contribute based on my knowledge. This is the first post I created. Let me know if the post is fine or do I need any changes. When can I expect it to be approved?

Regards, Amit — Preceding unsigned comment added by Amit.amlan (talk • contribs) 05:57, 17 September 2019 (UTC)

Hi there Amit.amlan - currently there is a backlog to the draft review process so all draft articles are a bit slow to be reviewed. Before getting it reviewed, I would recommend you look over some of the sources you provided - make sure they are independent of (not associated with) the subject you are writing about, and they demonstrate its notability. Hope this helps. -Liance^{talk/contribs} 02:53, 23 September 2019 (UTC)

Draft: Suzanne DeCuir

Thank you for your message for moving my Suzanne DeCuir submission to the Draft namespace.

Best regards,

Patrick Moody2762 (talk) 02:38, 23 September 2019 (UTC)Patrick Moody2762

No problem Patrick Moody2762. Please let me know if you need anything else. -Liance^{talk/contribs} 02:53, 23 September 2019 (UTC)

super frustrated

I just wanted to add a company to the list of california companies I did not want to draft an article about the company because I'm no expert at writing copy. The draft was sighted as spam advertising because it way too general what do I do? — Preceding unsigned comment added by DrCheryJackson (talk • contribs) 02:57, 23 September 2019 (UTC)

Hi DrCheryJackson - your draft was marked for deletion because it was promotional in nature, not because it was too general. It did not cite any sources and included promotional aspects like contact information without demonstrating notability. Please make sure any future edits meet WP:NPOV or they may face deletion again. Hope this helps. -Liance^{talk/contribs} 16:50, 23 September 2019 (UTC)

thank you , for the help

I have done changes,and some how there is still some issue in publishing , please help in resolving it and let the article and or page get published — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sunnyparekh36 (talk • contribs) 08:33, 23 September 2019 (UTC)

Lagardet (talk) 19:43, 23 September 2019 (UTC)== How to change the title of a wikipedia page? ==

Hallo, thank you for your feedback. As I am not only creating the article about Editta Braun, but also doing adjustments to the article about her company, I have a question. I can't change the title. You know, the editta braun company has no capitals, but in the wikipedia article they are falsely called "Editta Braun Company". But editing doesn't give me access to changing the title... could you help me, please? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lagardet (talk • contribs) 19:41, 23 September 2019 (UTC)

Largadet, generally article titles (and instances in the text of the articles) are not formatted with their stylized versions - in the case of the Editta Braun Company, I would advise keeping the instances of it and the article title in uppercase (though you could write "(stylized as editta braun company)" after it's first mentioned in the article to note it being lowercase). There are ways to change the case of the article title but I feel that it isn't appropriate in this case. Thanks. -Liance^{talk/contribs} 00:15, 25 September 2019 (UTC)

Decline or reject first, tag for speedy deletion after

Hi. Thanks for the work you're doing at AfC. When you come across a draft that should be speedy deleted, like you did here and here, please could you decline or reject the draft first, and then tag it for deletion. That way it won't be in the backlog for other reviewers to come across in the time between you tagging it and an administrator deleting it. Thanks. Curb Safe Charmer (talk) 21:17, 23 September 2019 (UTC)

Thank you so much for letting me know Curb Safe Charmer. Will be sure to decline drafts to make sure they get out of the review queue after CSDing them. -Liance^{talk/contribs} 00:16, 25 September 2019 (UTC)

Draft:dbWatch

Hello Liance!

Good day!

I would like to know more how can my submitted article be approved?

Thank you! :D

Hi Tonysy191 - on your draft article there is a blue "Re-Submit" button you can hit which will put your article back up for review. Before you do that, though, I would suggest fixing some of its issues, most importantly that it meets the notability criteria (supported by multiple secondary, independent sources with significant coverage) and is written neutrally. Also make sure your sources are inline citations rather than external links. Hope this helps. -Liance^{talk/contribs} 00:25, 25 September 2019 (UTC)

Regarding reference links for my article, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Praveen_LINGA

Hi Liance, I have updated the article with the necessary reference links as suggested. Can you please check. I would be happy to update if there is a need for further information. Thanks in advance, here is the page link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Praveen_LINGA — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pravlaaa3 (talk • contribs) 06:49, 25 September 2019 (UTC)

Regarding the page Unni Krishnan Pulikkal

Hey, though I have done edits to previous pages, this is my first ever original article. I am not able to form a infobox for this page so the details are left in the air (without a proper format). Can you provide me with some guidance please? Also, can you please let me know what more I should do to get my article approved? Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by SHEHZAAG (talk • contribs) 18:31, 25 September 2019 (UTC)

Hey, I didn't know Wikipedia could be so addictive. Now that I have though, I am here very much to stay. Thank you so much for your help and quick reply. SHEHZAAG (talk) 18:49, 25 September 2019 (UTC)

Hi SHEHZAAG - for userboxes in biographies, I would recommend copying the template skeleton from Template:Infobox person and entering any applicable details (name, DOB, etc). Let me know if you need any help with this. -Liance^{talk/contribs} 01:34, 29 September 2019 (UTC)

Draft:The Boondocks (2020 TV series)

How soon will my draft go live? How much more work needs to be done?MarcoPolo250 (talk) 21:14, 25 September 2019 (UTC)

Hi MarcoPolo250 - currently your draft is submitted for review and another editor should get to it within the next few days. However, I'm not sure if a new article is currently needed since there isn't even a release date for the rebooted series - might be a case of WP:TOOSOON, and your draft could be merged into Boondocks (TV series). -Liance^{talk/contribs} 01:31, 29 September 2019 (UTC)

Deaf characters in Children's books

Hi Liance Hope you don't mind me asking but I'm not very familiar with the Wikipedia interface and can't work out how to copy and paste the article onto the existing article without losing the references. I agree that the article is too long and should be split into smaller more specialised articles but first I'd like to get the content into the main Wikipedia before trying to split it into several articles. Could you help me copy and paste it over, please? Ano34 (talk) 08:18, 26 September 2019 (UTC)

Hey Ano34 - due to user attribution issues I would highly recommend you to do the content moving yourself. Which portions are you trying to copy? If you copy the <ref> tags then the references should automatically follow the copy/paste. Hope this helps. -Liance^{talk/contribs} 01:24, 29 September 2019 (UTC)

Journal Submission

Lance you rejected the submission for the journal 'Health and Social Care Chaplaincy' [HSCC]. I have contacted the publishers and edited it as best I am able, similar in style to other Journal entries on Wikipedia. As HSCC is only a relatively new journal, some information is not yet available, but I do not see this should prevent the submission proceeding. IF you are still not happy with this revised submission, could I please work with another editor to assist me to achieve an acceptable presentation. Regards - LC — Preceding unsigned comment added by LinzCarey (talk • contribs) 22:35, 27 September 2019 (UTC)

Hi LinzCarey, please make sure your subject meets the WP:NJOURNAL criteria for inclusion with reliable and independent sources to back it up with coverage. It's not a matter of how new the subject may be, but inclusion in the wiki is determined by coverage publicly available. Hope this helps. -Liance^{talk/contribs} 01:35, 29 September 2019 (UTC)

thank you

Many thanks for your help on my submission. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bonjours1234 (talk • contribs) 02:21, 29 September 2019 (UTC)

No problem, glad to be of help. Let me know if you need anything. -Liance^{talk/contribs} 02:27, 29 September 2019 (UTC)

afC suggestion

You were certainly right to decline User:Kumarkush111/sandbox/Mathurasini Printing Press! But not only is there no indiccation ofsignificance, this is a straight advertisement. The clearest way to indicate the problems with such articles is to also decline them as adv., so both templates papear on the user talk page.

And in this case, it is such a blatant unmistakable advertisement without any possible encyclopedic content, that t also qualifies for Speedy G11. (We're a little more reluctant to use G11 for drafts as for articles, because there's the hope drafts can be rewritten, but when it's as clear as this, G11 is appropriate. The sooner we get rid of these the better)

I'm not going to delete it immediately, so you can see the problem. DGG ( talk ) 07:04, 29 September 2019 (UTC)

Looking back I definitely should have also declined adv since it is indeed blatantly unencyclopedic. Thank you for pointing it out, will make sure to do so in the future. I've also put a speedy deletion on the article. Thanks! -Liance^{talk/contribs} 14:49, 29 September 2019 (UTC)

Your Reason for Declining an Article is unjust.

@Liance,

Thank you for reviewing the article here [1] for Johnnie a Ghanaian broadcast Journalist. This person is a notable personality in Ghana and has various credible sites approved in the references to prove that. I will appreciate if you relook your action and proceed review since it is still a stub Ghanaian article to be updated. Thanks. Joy Agyepong (talk)

Hi Joy Agyepong, from what I can you provided two sources on your subject (three link to the same article), which I feel does not meet WP:BIO/WP:GNG. If the subject has various credible sites please update your draft article to reflect that. Hope this helps. -Liance^{talk/contribs} 14:59, 29 September 2019 (UTC)

Precision Agriculture for Development

Braniac0312 (talk) 18:03, 1 October 2019 (UTC)Braniac0312 10/1/19

Hi Liance,

Thank you so much for helping me with my article. After some time, I feel that I've finished with the writing and research process. What's the next step?

Thanks again!

Hi Braniac0312 - I would advise to make sure your reference show that your subject is notable in that it provides secondary, independent, reliable sources. Some of the references do not meet this (i.e. google play store, organization's homepage) currently and would advise the inclusion of more reliable sources to show notability. Hope this helps. -Liance^{talk/contribs} 19:45, 1 October 2019 (UTC)

How do I edit the name of a draft?

Hey Liance. I was wondering how do you edit the name of a draft article. I accidentally called mine "Edel Crealy" instead of Edel Creely. But I have no idea how to edit the actual "Draft:Edel Crealy" before I send it to be reviewed. Any help would be appreciated, thanks! Taron Wright (talk) 18:28, 1 October 2019 (UTC)

Hi Taron Wright - I have moved your draft article to Draft:Edel Creely with the WP:MOVE function. Let me know if you need any additional assistance. Thanks! -Liance^{talk/contribs} 19:48, 1 October 2019 (UTC)

Liance - Are you decisions completely arbitrary?

You rejected my submission, and the documentation (and reliability) of the sources that were provided is far greater than many of the similar pages on Wikipedia.

Also, if you say Wikipedia isn't a reliable source, than aren't you contradicting your own vetting system?

What gives? This seems like a very inconsistent and arbitrary approval system...No one has endless hours to waste trying to submit articles... — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shuckyformet (talk • contribs) 19:36, 1 October 2019 (UTC)

Hi Shuckyformet, I reviewed your article on the basis of criteria reviewers abide by including WP:NN, WP:NMUSIC - they specify that notability requires secondary, independent, reliable sources that demonstrate significant coverage. Only one of the sources you provided on Draft:The Vectors appears to meet this criteria, as Facebook, Wikipedia and Discogs are user generated content that are not considered valid. Any similar pages on the wiki that do not meet these reference criteria likely do not meet notability requirements in their current form and may be marked for deletion. -Liance^{talk/contribs} 19:43, 1 October 2019 (UTC)

Draft: Vivrant

Hi Liance,

I have been waiting for a while to get my first article verified.

How is the process going? Is there something that needs to be improved?

Best, Nils

Hi there Vivrant123 - firstly, based on your username, it seems you might have a potential conflict of interest with the article your are writing. You should make sure to declare your affiliation with the subject on your user page to meet the wiki's policies regarding COI editing. As for your article, I would recommend adding more secondary, reliable sources to help meet the notability criteria. Hope this helps. -Liance^{talk/contribs} 17:42, 3 October 2019 (UTC)

Declined for inadequate sources not meeting minimum citation standard

Liance, Thank you for reviewing my article Marsha Mazz. This is my first article published and I have two quick questions. First being, how does the article not meet the minimum requirement for citations? I used Wiki's built-in automatic citing and it created the sources and the footnotes. I've checked the s minimum standard for inline citations article and am still confused. Secondly, what exactly do I have to reference? I am reading multiple Wikipedia articles and there is information that is not cited. I just would like to know what needs to be and what does not. I do not know what kind of information can be challenged. Thank you for your time AleitheaAnne (talk) 14:26, 3 October 2019 (UTC)

Hi there AleitheaAnne - what I meant by minimum requirement for citations is that your article should include inline citations within the body of the article so that information can be properly verified. The first paragraph in the "Professional Career" section has no citations, so you would need to make sure that information could be verified through the included citations, otherwise that infoaa may not be fit for inclusion.

In addition, you should make sure your subject meets the notability criteria for living persons - press releases do not meet the requirements for secondary, reliable sources, so please try to find alternatives. Hope this helps. -Liance^{talk/contribs} 17:47, 3 October 2019 (UTC)

Rejection

Dear Liance,

I got the rejection to publish Muhammad Shahbaz information. Could you please instruct me how to revise or change?

Best, — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ngannguyen1702 (talk • contribs) 13:26, 4 October 2019 (UTC)

Ngannguyen1702, I took a look at your draft and I would make sure your article supported by inline citations - as of now, there are only external links in the article body, which are generally not supposed to be in the body of the article and should be removed. The article reads more like a resume with a list of a achievements rather than a biography, so I would recommend removing links to education, google scholar, etc. and make sure that your article meets the notability criteria for professors through reliable, secondary sources. Hope this helps. -Liance^{talk/contribs} 17:33, 4 October 2019 (UTC)

Virginia Thompson

Hi Liance, I hope this finds you well. I was wondering if you would be able to review the contributions I have made for Virginia Thompson and ensure they meet Wikipedia's guidelines. I look forward to hearing from you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jackrobmartin (talk • contribs) 15:01, 4 October 2019 (UTC)

Hi Jackrobmartin, one problem I see right now with your draft is that many of the sources are not independent of the subject (not directly affiliated/related with it) - in order to meet notability criteria for living people, I would review your sources and try to add coverage by more secondary sources. Hope this helps. -Liance^{talk/contribs} 17:37, 4 October 2019 (UTC)

My articles

Hi Liance, I published 5 articles till now and only one of them was accepted. Is there a reason my articles aren't accepted? Thank you. Bechtoll (talk) 00:56, 5 October 2019 (UTC)

Hi Bechtoll, currently the reviewer queue is a bit long for AfC but provided your draft articles are well sourced and demonstrate notability they should be accepted. Hope this helps. -Liance^{talk/contribs} 14:55, 16 October 2019 (UTC)

Updated

Dear Liance,

I improved my paper, could you be so kind to please to check and approve it? Or if you make any suggestions for further development, I appreciate your help much.

Best wishes, — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ngannguyen1702 (talk • contribs) 15:45, 5 October 2019 (UTC)

Ngannguyen1702, I have reviewed and left feedback on your draft. -Liance^{talk/contribs} 14:58, 16 October 2019 (UTC)

[Opinion needed] Proper name for the draft

[Update] After some discussion with other tech guys at Reddit I think I will leave the name of the draft as is. Eventually google and other search engines will start to index "moleculer" and they will stop assuming that it's a typo.

[Original] Hey Lance. A couple of weeks ago I've created a draft article but now I'm thinking that its name might not be the best. I'll try to explain why. The draft is called "Moleculer" (it's a microservices framework). However, when googling for "Moleculer" the search engine assumes that it's a typo and searches for "molecular" with an "A". As a result it shows a lot of biology related results. So, this time search engine indexing algorithms are not helping at all.

To avoid this issue and to, somewhat, provide better search results I was thinking to change the name of the draft to "Moleculer (microservices framework)". What do you think? Would it help?

PS: I've also added some references (including an IEEE article) to the draft as you've asked.

AndMaz (talk) 20:18, 5 October 2019 (UTC)

Draft: dbWatch

Hi Liance,

Good day!

I really need your help as the comment you've made regarding the secondary/reliable source. I've included links from reliable websites that reviewed the dbWatch company. And I don't have any secondary sources but only those websites mentioned in my article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tonysy191 (talk • contribs) 11:16, 7 October 2019 (UTC) How can I workaround with this issue?

Your feedback will be very much appreciated Thank you very much!

Best Regards,

Tony

A kitten for you!

Thank you for the advice

Gang 5g (talk) 08:40, 7 October 2019 (UTC)

Rejection of e-commerce platform article

My article of e-commerce platform was rejected. E-commerce and e-commerce platform are two different topics. The article with title 'E-commerce platform' was one of the requested articles on Wikipedia. The second reason you mentioned was link farm to two websites. I took the idea from the websites and then wrote in my own words. Another thing that can be done is to include my article under E-commerce. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Smitpshah17 (talk • contribs) 03:08, 9 October 2019 (UTC)

SYSML Version 1.5

Lian,

I has been trying to publish the SYSML Version 1.5 document to the wikipedia website (1 September 2019) and did not get your approval since it is a copy right document. Do you mind if I send you the permission message from the copy right owner? I already loaded that permission message from the owner of that wikipedia document but you might not see it somehow. I try to share this information to the wiki audience so they can learn the new method and specification to work on Model Based System Engineering. Also after I get your approval to publish it, I will modify the format to make it more user friendly using the anchor command and hyperlink. Please let me know how I can send the original owner message to you. Note that if this option fails I think the only option left is the owner to load the document to Wikipedia by himself.

Thanks.

V/r CDR Charles Nguyen, USN — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jolenep99 (talk • contribs) 16:49, 9 October 2019 (UTC)

Hi Jolenep99 - Wikipedia highly discourages and prohibits the use of non-free content, so I would advise against attempting to obtain permission from the copyright holder since any content hosted on the wiki should be licensed freely. Is that document vital to the subject you are writing about? You could try to exclude it from your draft, or substitute it with your own words/other free sources. Hope this helps. -Liance^{talk/contribs} 17:07, 18 October 2019 (UTC)

Draft: Marsha Mazz

Hello Liance, I was hoping you could take a look at my article again. It has not been viewed for a month and a half. If you have some time, I would love to get the chance again? Thank you! AleitheaAnne (talk) 21:42, 18 November 2019 (UTC)

Draft: Luis Dato

Hello. There has been a confusion about my draft and the article Luis Dato. I am quite new in the wikipedia and i did not know the rules well. i deeply apologize. I intentionally moved the Draft:Luis Dato to the Article section. The article has been revised by other contributors to a point that it was almost perfect. And then it was deleted. The worse thing is that a couple of websites has already reference (or copied) it. Anyway, I revised the Draft: Luis Dato to the wikipedia's standard. Please review it. Thank you so much. And I apologize again for the move. Stephentalla (talk) 03:50, 15 October 2019 (UTC)

Hi Stephentalla, everything seems to have worked out with the article for Luis Dato on the mainspace right now. Thank you for your contributions and please let me know if you have any questions! -Liance^{talk/contribs} 17:08, 18 October 2019 (UTC)

Hello Liance, thank you for the help. i Have a question though, why is the article not indexed by Google search? Thanks. Stephentalla (talk) 06:28, 21 October 2019 (UTC)

Google indexing can be slow and it might take a while for it to show up there - I don't think this is something the wiki can really control but it should show up sooner or later. -Liance^{talk/contribs} 14:13, 21 October 2019 (UTC)

Thank you, Liance! Stephentalla (talk) 14:39, 21 October 2019 (UTC)

Al Krevis Article.

If you have the time to review and help me edit my article so it may get posted I'd greatly appreciate it — Preceding unsigned comment added by Johnny234424 (talk • contribs) 16:01, 19 October 2019 (UTC)

Your draft article has been accepted by another reviewer. -Liance^{talk/contribs} 14:19, 21 October 2019 (UTC)

Kostja Horvat

Hello!

My article has been declined several times now and i wonder as to why. Another user was claiming youtube links are not reliable source's - which is fair. Therefore i removed them and found as much credible sites as possible to back up the information. In this case its several clubs confirming the identity of a player in their records so i am not really sure what more information i can provide. I added youtube links so that the player can be seen playing for a club which should be the most credible source of all.

Please let me know how i can improve this article enough to get approved.

regards

Hi Thesoccerex, I would recommend you take a look at WP:NN and WP:NSPORT and add reliable sources that fit those criteria. YouTube is not a usable source under WP:UGC. -Liance^{talk/contribs} 14:34, 21 October 2019 (UTC)

And thats why i removed youtube links and only added very reliable sources, so the question still stands why is it not getting approved

regards

HSCC Journal

Liance, sorry to sound rude but your rejection of my HSCC submission is somewhat absurd. I suggest you consider other 'Journal' entries in Wikipedia and you will see that I have virtually copied HSCC in a similar style (as best I could). I shouldn't have to point out the obvious similarity for comparison, but if it is necessary, take a look at the 'Journal of Religion and Health' which I have helped to edit and which was improved again by another Wikipedia editor. References / links for verifiability have been included - LC — Preceding unsigned comment added by LinzCarey (talk • contribs) 15:03, 20 October 2019 (UTC)

Hi LinzCarey, at the time of my review your draft article did not include any inline citations and only external links to primary sources, which means it failed WP:NN. Right now the entry better reflects necessary criteria and would be a better candidate for acceptance. Hope this helps. -Liance^{talk/contribs} 14:18, 21 October 2019 (UTC)

Liance, please note the official Health and Social Care Chaplaincy (HSCC) website for the journal.https://journals.equinoxpub.com/index.php/HSCC. I have tried my best to copy the lay out on Wikipedia as per a similar entry for the Journal of Religion and Health. Please assist me to get this HSCC page on Wikipedia up and running.

Thank you.

Thank you. This is the first article I've written, so I am still learning all the rights and wrongs. I appreciate your help! WendyRuss (talk) 19:14, 20 October 2019 (UTC)

Thank you and question

Hi! first of all, I would like to thank you for reviewing my draft! (draft:Gesa Credit Union) Secondly, I had a question. I wasn't quite sure if you said that the topic isn't significant enough, or if I just need second-party citations. Could you provide some clarity? Thanks again for taking your time to review and respond! Puddleglum2.0👌 (talk) 02:51, 21 October 2019 (UTC)

Hi Puddleglum2.0, notability on the wiki is judged by certain criteria, which includes multiple independent, secondary, reliable sources that show significant coverage. Right now, your draft only includes sources that are affiliated with the subject, so you would need to add more independent sources to meet that criteria. Hope this helps. -Liance^{talk/contribs} 14:16, 21 October 2019 (UTC)

Yes it does, thanks a lot! Puddleglum2.0👌 (talk) 14:17, 21 October 2019 (UTC)

No problem. -Liance^{talk/contribs} 14:28, 21 October 2019 (UTC)

Thank you... Lullwater page

Liance (John) ... Thanks for the assistance with my draft submission. I've kept my submission rather short and sweet with as many quality references as I could so that I wouldn't overwhelm the process and clutter up my article. I look forward to being approved, or to making any necessary adjustments as you feel I need to. Thanks, Joey Lullwaterfan (talk) 13:45, 21 October 2019 (UTC)

Lullwaterfan, I have made some edits to your draft article. Hope they help. -Liance^{talk/contribs} 14:20, 21 October 2019 (UTC)

Thanks - I realized I didn't properly credit my references per Wikipedia's standards and was in the process of trying to figure out the proper technique, but you have shown me the correct links for future references. Can I still make new changes and edits while the page is being reviewed for submission??? Thank you, Joey Lullwaterfan (talk) 14:35, 21 October 2019 (UTC)

Yes. -Liance^{talk/contribs} 15:38, 21 October 2019 (UTC)

Thanks John. I'm slowly making a few improvements - just linking a few names to web sites and going to try to insert a photo of the band too. I appreciate your assistance with the page. Hoping I fly through the submission process without much drama !!! - thanks, Joey Lullwaterfan (talk) 13:17, 22 October 2019 (UTC)

Liance (John) - Just resubmitted my article after making a suggested change ..... I'd appreciate it if you took a look at it. -Joey Thanks Lullwaterfan (talk) 03:41, 31 December 2019 (UTC)

Where to submit a replacement article?

Dear Liance,

I am aware that my article is not on a new topic, which is why it was declined. Where do I submit an article which I largely rewrote because the original one was a bad & wrong stub? It seems wrong to just paste the new version as I did for the ELBO.

Xenonoxid (talk) 21:40, 23 October 2019 (UTC)

Xenonoxid, I would just directly edit the article on the mainspace as it prevents issues with edit conflicts and copy-paste moves. It's OK to "largely rewrite" an article directly as long as you make sure your content meets wiki standards (adequately sourced and unbiased). Hope this helps. -Liance^{talk/contribs} 21:45, 23 October 2019 (UTC)

Thank you for moving my article.

Liance, thank you for moving my article to the draft section! Let me know if there are any changes you think I should make for it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by JabSVBS13 (talk • contribs) 16:12, 24 October 2019 (UTC)

JabSVBS13, I just made some edits to your draft so that it fits wikipedia's standard formatting and manual of style. The article looks good, just make sure it is referenced adequately with reliable sources. -Liance^{talk/contribs} 16:19, 24 October 2019 (UTC)

I checked over the sources to make sure everything is valid. Looks good. I'll wait and see if the other editors approve it. Thanks again! ~ — Preceding unsigned comment added by JabSVBS13 (talk • contribs) 18:06, 24 October 2019 (UTC)

Draft/Fabrizio La Torre

Dear Liance, thank you very much for your support This is a draft version of the translation of the original text in French & published on wikipedia.fr — Preceding unsigned comment added by JPDeNeef (talk • contribs) 12:19, 26 October 2019 (UTC)

Billy Kametz page

Hello, I made a page named Billy Kametz and I accidentally created it in the mainspace. Are you able to help me move it to a draft page please as I would believe that having it in the mainspace at this point of time wouldn't be appropriate. Thanks ahead. Arithmenick (talk) 04:39, 27 October 2019 (UTC)

Hi Arithmenick, it seems that another editor has gotten that done before I was able to see your message so I hope everything is resolved. -Liance^{talk/contribs} 18:47, 27 October 2019 (UTC)

Petr Zuska Wikipedia English Profile

hi Liance,

Your colleague has deleted the draft you have moved from sandbox for me. I would have appreciated just knowing what was wrong, I would have gladly corrected it. Can you please help me.

Katdiamond2020 (talk) 08:26, 27 October 2019 (UTC)

Hi Katdiamond2020, an admin deleted your page and in deletion history wrote that it was because your draft was copied with information from this page, in addition to the fact that it was written like a resume. In order to not be a copyright violation text must not be copied from a source that is protected under copyright and must be licensed appropriately. Hope this helps. -Liance^{talk/contribs} 18:51, 27 October 2019 (UTC)

Request on 03:27:55, 28 October 2019 for assistance on AfC submission by Jansi mary S

• Jansi mary S (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:A Nurse’s Voice on Nursing Documentation (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Jansi mary S (talk) 03:27, 28 October 2019 (UTC)

Hi madam/sir, Its me jansi , i need assets because Wikipedia is some thing new for me, and i refereed so many videos but none of them is clear on what i should do exactly , i wanted to publish on nursing documentation so that there will be at least somebody who can use this and it will be helpful in there day today activity i know there is a lot of mistakes but im ready-to correct my self , if it is published please delete it i will take your guideline improvise and come back again

My aim is to learn not to become famous 

Thank you

Hey there Jansi mary S, firstly the article nursing documentation already exists, so if you feel that it needs improvement you can always edit it there. Additionally, content on Wikipedia should be objective, factual and verifiable rather than opinionated - so please make sure any additions are supported by reliable sources and are factual in nature. Hope this helps. -Liance^{talk/contribs} 03:38, 28 October 2019 (UTC)

My article for submission

Thanks for moving my article to drafts . I hope you consider it worthy of becoming a Wiki article. Thanking you in anticipation. Areesha fatima 700 (talk) 10:19, 28 October 2019 (UTC)

Need your expertise

Liance , I hope you would help me regarding this question. How will my article become a wiki article ? I'm fairly new to this , and I still haven't grasped the ropes of it all. Please guide me regarding this. Areesha fatima 700 (talk) 10:21, 28 October 2019 (UTC)

Draft : Suleman Tahir

So sorry to disturb you , I know you have a lot to do , sorry to pester you again. I just want to ask something. 1) What does it mean that my article has been moved from sandbox to drafts ? 2) what else should I do to make my article more credible AMD more likely to be accepted ? 3) How much time will it take for my article to be com open to public ?

Kindly guide me . Areesha fatima 700 (talk) 12:21, 28 October 2019 (UTC)

Hi Areesha fatima 700, your article was moved to the Draft namespace, which is the location where articles being written are generally placed (they are not live on the Wiki's mainspace). I would recommend for you to add more reliable sources that are independent and show significant coverage of your draft - please refer to WP:GNG and WP:NPROF for notability guidelines. Generally the review process may take some time depending on the quality of your submission; I have formatted your draft to better fit the wiki's styling and format. Hope this helps. -Liance^{talk/contribs} 15:55, 28 October 2019 (UTC)

Draft:Sans (Undertale)

Hi, It's been a long since you reviewed the draft but I've I helped out the draft to establish notability. I think it's good to go now in mainspace. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 60.113.79.85 (talk) 23:46, 28 October 2019 (UTC)

60.113.79.85, I would agree, I've accepted the article and it should be live now. Thanks for your help. -Liance^{talk/contribs} 23:59, 28 October 2019 (UTC)

== Thank yo

Thank you

Thank you for guidance Areesha fatima 700 (talk) 10:36, 29 October 2019 (UTC)

Request on 21:35:44, 29 October 2019 for assistance on AfC submission by Macgirl

• Macgirl (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:Jessica Rich (designer) (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Hi--thank you for your feedback. I am working on a larger article with more robust references that will satisfy Wiki's standards. Is it possible to accept the stub I submitted in the meantime until the longer article is ready? macgirl (talk) 21:35, 29 October 2019 (UTC)

Hi again--please let me know at your earliest. I have developed a longer article with more references and sections but don't want to upload until I hear from you, since you were the one who made the decision on this entry. macgirl (talk) 20:17, 31 October 2019 (UTC)

Hi Macgirl, sorry for the late reply. Generally articles don't get accepted into the mainspace until they satisfy relevant notability criteria like WP:GNG and WP:BIO - that's what AfC is for. If you have a version which may better fit the criteria then you can resubmit the draft with that version and have it reviewed. Hope this helps. -Liance^{talk/contribs} 22:56, 2 November 2019 (UTC)

Hi Liance--thank you for the review and suggestions. I've worked on the draft and it is now much longer and has more Wiki-suitable references. I've submitted it for review to the same link. Here's hoping it will be accepted. Thanks! macgirl (talk) 20:14, 6 November 2019 (UTC)

Hi Liance--checking in to see if you've had a chance to review the updated draft. Will it be you or someone else who reviews the new draft? macgirl (talk) 21:25, 25 November 2019 (UTC)

I have unreviewed a page you curated

Hi, I'm Kudpung. I wanted to let you know that I saw the page you reviewed, Mixtape Madness, and have marked it as unpatrolled. If you have any questions, please ask them on my talk page. Thank you.

(Message delivered via the Page Curation tool, on behalf of the reviewer.)

Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 01:48, 2 November 2019 (UTC)

About the draft

Hi Liance, I just found you and can you check this draft Draft:Yuri Kozukata, it has been for 2 months. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 211.194.199.230 (talk) 07:40, 2 November 2019 (UTC)

FYI

Since you evaluated the AFC draft at User:Abhirupmoitra93/sandbox/WhiteHat Jr, you may be interested in contributing to the deletion discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/WhiteHat Jr. Regards, Peacock (talk) 16:41, 5 November 2019 (UTC)

Thanks. -Liance^{talk/contribs} 23:38, 5 November 2019 (UTC)

Henda Salmeron Page

Hello John, Thank you for your help. I'm new to Wikipedia. The page I created was deleted with some good edits, D8 and G12. I would like to fix and resubmit. Where can I find my deleted page to check links and to properly reference the website that was used for information? Henda Salmeron (talk) 20:44, 6 November 2019 (UTC)Regina MorrisHenda Salmeron (talk) 20:44, 6 November 2019 (UTC)Regina Morris

Hi Henda Salmeron, the restoration of your page might not be possible because your page contained copyrighted content, which is why it was deleted. You can try requesting a page undeletion at WP:REFUND, but it is not likely that your undeletion would be granted since copyrighted content is not allowed on the wiki and is usually not kept. If you still have relevant information I would recommend recreating the page from scratch, considering its original form was in part or in whole a copyright violation. Hope this helps. -Liance^{talk/contribs} 12:32, 7 November 2019 (UTC)

Thanks, John for moving the my draft to the correct space. I look forward to hearing back on it's creation. I have referenced the Henda's Law website, the law is cited exactly how it reads. So hopefully we can see that it is not a copyright issue. Thanks again. ReginaMorris (talk) 18:43, 11 November 2019 (UTC)Regina

Thomas Nail

Hi Liance,

Thank you for moving my article to the "Draft:Thomas Nail". The article has been rejected twice but no one has told me how to fix the issues. One comment suggests that academics need a "named chair" to be listed, which is clearly no the case for most entries. Another says I need reliable independent sources that are verifiable—but that was what I thought I just added with links to peer reviewed journals, etc. I am super confused. Other entries are way less supported than mine. Can you tell me specifically what I need to do here. Its all so mysterious.

Thank you for your feedback on "Draft:Thomas Nail". The article has been rejected twice but no one has told me how to fix the issues. One comment suggests that academics need a "named chair" to be listed, which is clearly no the case for most entries. Another says I need reliable independent sources that are verifiable—but that was what I thought I just added with links to peer reviewed journals, etc. I am super confused. Other entries are way less supported than mine. Can you tell me specifically what I need to do here? Its all so mysterious. — Preceding unsigned comment added by RyanHSanborn (talk • contribs) 02:40, 8 November 2019 (UTC)

Also: I read the wiki instructions and its pretty clear that the article meets at least one of the academic criteria listed: "The most typical way of satisfying Criterion 1 is to show that the academic has been an author of highly cited academic work – either several extremely highly cited scholarly publications or a substantial number of scholarly publications with significant citation rates. Reviews of the person's work, published in selective academic publications, can be considered together with ordinary citations here. Differences in typical citation and publication rates and in publication conventions between different academic disciplines should be taken into account.

I have linked to google scholar and academia.edu to verify this. Thomas Nail has a book, The Figure of the Migrant, cited 285 times (which is a lot for philosophy books). He also fulfills the other named criteria of "unique" contribution that can be verified by reading the linked book review of Theory of the Border- where the reviewer clearly states the original and unique contribution of a whole new conceptual framework. Check it out. — Preceding unsigned comment added by RyanHSanborn (talk • contribs) 03:22, 8 November 2019 (UTC)

Please read this: I am pasting here the explicit criteria on wikipedia for academic notability and precise how Thomas Nail satisfies this:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Notability_(academics) Academics meeting any one of the following conditions, as substantiated through reliable sources, are notable.

1. The person's research has had a significant impact in their scholarly discipline, broadly construed, as demonstrated by independent reliable sources.

"The most typical way of satisfying Criterion 1 is to show that the academic has been an author of highly cited academic work – either several extremely highly cited scholarly publications or a substantial number of scholarly publications with significant citation rates. Reviews of the person's work, published in selective academic publications, can be considered together with ordinary citations here. Differences in typical citation and publication rates and in publication conventions between different academic disciplines should be taken into account. To count towards satisfying Criterion 1, citations need to occur in peer-reviewed scholarly publications such as journals or academic books. Publication and citation rates in humanities are generally lower than in sciences. Also, in sciences, most new original research is published in journals and conference proceedings whereas in humanities book publications tend to play a larger role (and are harder to count without access to offline libraries). The meaning of "substantial number of publications" and "high citation rates" is to be interpreted in line with the interpretations used by major research institutions in determining the qualifications for the awarding of tenure."

Here is how criteria number 1 is verified: a) follow the link "highly cited" to google scholar and see that there are several "highly cited" books and many well cited peer- reviewed articles. b) follow the academia.edu link at the bottom to see that Thomas Nail has over 4,000 followers with a quarter of a million downloads. c) when determining "highly cited" consider 1. that philosophy has much lower citation rates than the sciences, 2. that books are much more important that articles, and 3. that Thomas Nail is a tenured faculty, meaning that he has published enough to be considered to have made an impact in his field. d) view his CV on academia.edu to see the 10 books he has written and over 30 peer reviewed articles and major conferences and full range of interviews.

Let me know what you think — Preceding unsigned comment added by RyanHSanborn (talk • contribs) 19:19, 17 November 2019 (UTC)

Thanks RyanHSanborn (talk) 02:38, 8 November 2019 (UTC)

--171.60.226.136 (talk) 04:32, 16 November 2019 (UTC)== Submission declined earlier - Content has been edited as per directions ==

Submission of content in link given below was declined by you. The content has been edited as per the observations/directions. Can you review the same for approval. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Stiwarinetlink/sandbox — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chenjo9 (talk • contribs) 12:59, 11 November 2019 (UTC)