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Undeletion Request of Getter (musician)

Hello.

About one month ago, I nominated "Getter (musician)" for deletion via AFD because it wasn't notable enough then. However, after doing my research I find that the article is notable enough for inclusion on Wikipedia. So, I would like to request its undeletion, if possible. You were the closing admin, who deleted the page. Please guide me on the procedures to get it undeleted. - TheMagnificentist (talk) 15:00, 18 November 2016 (UTC)

Greetings, @TheMagnificentist:. Given that several people agreed with the deletion and none dissented, starting the article anew with the material that makes it notable may be the best way to go about it. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 16:26, 18 November 2016 (UTC)

Need Help

HI! How can I prevent people getting into my userpage? The450 (talk) 21:43, 18 November 2016 (UTC)

Greetings, @The450:. There are several different choices depending on what your problem with them is. If people removing the categories is the issue, then sorry, but nothing will be done about it because these categories do not belong there. If it's vandalism by IP addresses, you can ask for semiprotection. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 21:46, 18 November 2016 (UTC)

Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) How can I stop people from being able to edit the page apart from me? The450 (talk) 22:01, 18 November 2016 (UTC)

You can't (except in a few unusual circumstances). "Anyone can edit" is one of Wikipedia's most fundamental principles—note that it's the first thing on the Main Page other than "Welcome to Wikipedia" itself, and note that each time you click the "edit" button on your userpage (or any other page), you're shown a warning that Work submitted to Wikipedia can be edited, used, and redistributed by anyone. It's considered good manners not to edit other peoples' userpages without asking them, but you can't stop them; certainly not in a case like this, where I was removing something that violated Wikipedia's own policies. If it reaches the point where anonymous vandals are causing a particular issue, you can request that a page be semiprotected, preventing editors who haven't had an account for at least four days from editing it, but to protect any page with a stronger level of protection than that requires very exceptional circumstances. (Even semiprotection is unusual; at any given time Wikipedia has about 10,000 semiprotected pages—roughly half of which are templates rather than "real" pages—out of our 40,780,199 total pages.) ‑ Iridescent 00:27, 19 November 2016 (UTC)

About Page Deletion - Tripoto

Hi Jo-Jo, Greetings, I would like to ask why a page [Tripoto] created by me, deleted by you.? Really I am unable to understand the reason why the page is deleted, Its all about a authenticate startup technology travel company.. Whats wrong with this page ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Srvkumar09 (talkcontribs) 05:55, 19 November 2016 (UTC)

Greetings, @Srvkumar09:. I deleted it because the people in Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Tripoto had decided it didn't meet WP:NCORP, our inclusion guideline for companies. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 09:47, 19 November 2016 (UTC)

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Hello Jo-Jo Eumerus, It seems this article Trizzy was deleted and protected from creation. Can it be created? so i can add this article as one of my draft, looking forward to your response. Have a wonderful day Jaquay Mcbride (talk) 06:21, 14 November 2016 (UTC)

Greetings, Jaquay Mcbride. You'd need to show that the article topic is notable as we define on Wikipedia, say by writing up a complying draft at Draft:Trizzy. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 06:54, 14 November 2016 (UTC)
Hello, I have finished my draft for Draft:Trizzy can you review and see if its notable enough to be included in wikipedia, Thank You.Jaquay Mcbride (talk) 07:49, 21 November 2016 (UTC)
@Jaquay Mcbride:: Probably the best way is by sending it through Wikipedia:Articles for creation. I don't know enough about music article sources to judge whether it'd be notable. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 16:16, 22 November 2016 (UTC)
@Jo-jo eumerus:: Ok, but on the article page it says: This page is protected from creation, so only administrators can create it. if it is approved how will the page get created? Jaquay Mcbride (talk) 18:56, 22 November 2016 (UTC)
You know, I must ask, @Jaquay Mcbride:, are you perchance the same person as User:Reuben1995? There is some similarity in your edits that makes me wonder. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 19:48, 22 November 2016 (UTC)
@Jo-jo eumerus: I'm not familiar with that user Jaquay Mcbride (talk) 20:36, 22 November 2016 (UTC)
OK. The people who review "Articles for creation" requests will ask for unprotection if the drafts are sufficient. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 20:47, 22 November 2016 (UTC)

Deletion review for Beryl Irving

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Deletion of Page - MakeUseOf

Hi, I participated in the proposal for deletion (for the record I was on the keep side). I saw that you deleted the article. I was wondering what your rationale was? As far as I could tell there was no consensus reached. The discussion largely was a "I think it should be kept" against "It should be deleted" without as far as I could see, any compelling evidence that the page was not notable? Thanks --Drmotley (talk) 13:59, 23 November 2016 (UTC)

Greetings, @Drmotley:. Consensus does take into account whether the opinions expressed are based in policy and evidence. A lot of Facebook likes and a high Alexa ranking are not evidence of notability as we define it and you cannot use them to claim that a topic is notable; our concept of notability is entirely about whether there is - or is expected to be - material to source an article from, see WP:WHYN. Further, such usage statistics can be easily gamed. The uncontested lack of reliable sources on the other hand is a valid reason for deletion, considering that verifiability is one of our core policies, as well as WP:DEL-REASON points 6, 7 and 8. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 16:08, 23 November 2016 (UTC)

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Fixed, thanks. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 16:14, 23 November 2016 (UTC)

Kool Magazine

Hello - just been looking for 'notable' publications in the East Of England relating to my dissertation on Youth Culture in the 90's. I'm a student at the UEA and my initial research with the local media and business suggests that this was a landmark publication that paved the way for others who went on to do great things. How do you suggest we get this re instated please?

Jane 146.162.240.243 (talk) 13:02, 25 November 2016 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) Jane, I've replied to your comment at Wikipedia talk:Articles for deletion/Kool Magazine. That sets out what would need to be located before the magazine could have an article. —C.Fred (talk) 13:36, 25 November 2016 (UTC)

Thanks C.Fred - so how is it that paid for magazines can feature i.e. GQ Magazine, and free circulation ones cant? Jane 146.162.240.243 (talk) 13:44, 25 November 2016 (UTC)

Because free magazines usually generate so little attention that no reliable sources cover them, while GQ gets substantial coverage and wins awards. —C.Fred (talk) 13:46, 25 November 2016 (UTC)

OK - this one's in the British Library as an example of a notable publication from that region. They also won Business awards and were featured in the Tate Modern when it opened as part of the Millennium Volunteers "Influencers of Youth Culture" photographic exhibition. Would that count? 146.162.240.243 (talk) 13:51, 25 November 2016 (UTC)

Maybe, possibly, and doubtful. First, it would depend on how how the British Library catalogued it and what they wrote about it. Second, the business awards would depend on who gave the awards (local or national, for instance) and how much coverage the awards got. Finally, a photo of the magazine cover is not substantial coverage. —C.Fred (talk) 14:19, 25 November 2016 (UTC)

Cool - thank you - really useful for my research. Interestingly, Kool Magazine had a 50,000 monthly circulation by 1998 when the average combined monthly circulation of the top 5 paid for mags (via newsagents) only hit 268 (Sept 1998 - NFRN) in Norwich and Broadlands. May have to change my dissertation subject ;-) Thanks again - Jane 146.162.240.243 (talk) 14:35, 25 November 2016 (UTC)

Question about AFD closures

Good morning/afternoon/evening! I've seen you closing a number of AfDs, so I have come to you with a question. I've recently returned to Wikipedia after a several-year absence. When I was most active around 2004-2009, I closed a lot of AfDs. As expected, there were sometimes disagreements with a closing decision that were taken to Deletion Review. In the last couple of days, though, I've had two separate people ask me to re-open two different AfDs and change the closing result. Is this something that is done now? I don't recall ever being asked to literally re-open a closed discussion like that before. Joyous! | Talk 15:41, 25 November 2016 (UTC)

Greetings, @Joyous!: Standard practice when contesting an AfD result is to first ask the closing administrator to reconsider. Some people will go to WP:DELREV immediately, which is also permitted but they may be pointed to the admin's user talk page then. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 17:33, 25 November 2016 (UTC)
Wow, SO different now. Thank you for letting me know, so I can adjust my attitude a little. Joyous! | Talk 19:56, 25 November 2016 (UTC)

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deleting the page of khlaif gharaibeh

Dear Sir we want to know the reason for deleting the page of khlaif gharaibeh ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nkgharaibeh (talkcontribs) 14:56, 27 November 2016 (UTC)

Greetings, Nkgharaibeh. People in Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Khlaif Gharaibeh decided that it doesn't meet our inclusion criteria. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 14:59, 27 November 2016 (UTC)


how can we update the previous content to be suitable ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.147.204.163 (talk) 15:08, 27 November 2016 (UTC)

You can't. No amount of editing can overcome a lack of notability. It's an essay, but quite accurate. Other people - reliable sources, that is, not everybody who writes stuff qualifies - need to write about Khlaif Gharaibeh before we can restore it. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 15:26, 27 November 2016 (UTC)

Template:Did you know nominations/Kurile Lake‎

I think a shorter hook might be better, but I leave it to you to so propose. If you are of that mind? Cheers. 7&6=thirteen () 16:08, 27 November 2016 (UTC)

Maybe, but I feel a bit bad about leaving any of the current info out. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 16:24, 27 November 2016 (UTC)
I just think it's hookier.
But I do not have your investment in the article. I empathize with your love of your 'child.' FWIW, I thought this article was a very good piece.
And it's your hook and (IMO) your call. 7&6=thirteen () 22:47, 27 November 2016 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Lake Tauca

The article Lake Tauca you nominated as a good article has passed  ; see Talk:Lake Tauca for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already been on the main page as an "In the news" or "Did you know" item, you can nominate it to appear in Did you know. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Tisquesusa -- Tisquesusa (talk) 18:02, 28 November 2016 (UTC)

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DYK for Sairecabur

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Watchfinder

Hi there! I have been away from wikipedia for a while now and having just logged in I noticed that an article I contributed to, Watchfinder, has been deleted by you. I don't wish to challenge the deletion, but I did read the AfD discussion and was surprised by many of the comments. I would very much like to review the text of the deleted article to see whether I agree with these opinions, and whether anything can be done to rewrite it to achieve a new consensus for notability and verifiability. Given that the subject is by far the most successful company in its field (a multi-billion dollar industry), I believe than there is at least some chance that this is possible!

Basically my question is might you be able to send me the deleted text (what I wrote was a long time ago and I can't remember it well, nor do I know if it changed in the years since), just so I can take a look? Thanks so much for your understanding! Thedarkfourth (talk) 20:05, 29 November 2016 (UTC)

Greetings, @Thedarkfourth:. Supposedly, https://web.archive.org/web/*/https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Watchfinder has a version from October of this year. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 20:13, 29 November 2016 (UTC)
Thanks so much! I have created a tentative new version of the article - would appreciate any feedback! BestThedarkfourth (talk) 01:16, 30 November 2016 (UTC)
Oi, @Thedarkfourth:. I thought you just wanted to read the previous article, not restore it. I hope you didn't copy material from the Webarchive version as that'd be a big violation of WP:CWW. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 06:50, 30 November 2016 (UTC)
I did say I wanted to see if anything could be done to rewrite it :) It has been reworded from the old version. I do think it's a valid article - see my comment on the talk page for more.

Thanks again for your help.Thedarkfourth (talk) 07:42, 30 November 2016 (UTC)

Deletion of Alejandro Palacio Page

Hi Jo-Jo Eumerus, I see the page for Alejandro Palacio was deleted on 10/29/16.

Please advise if there is any information that needs to be corrected before if can be posted. The page was real and used facts from http://www.boomerangdeportivo.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=55&Itemid=70

Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.193.171.152 (talk) 19:12, 30 November 2016 (UTC)

Greetings. You need to explain how the article topic is notable. That boomerangdeportivo source at first glance seems like it may be unreliable so it won't work. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 19:22, 30 November 2016 (UTC)

Template:Did you know nominations/Puaaiki

Please see Template:Did you know nominations/Puaaiki. Thanks.--KAVEBEAR (talk) 21:28, 30 November 2016 (UTC)

Lake Tauca, Harv errors

Thanks, @Lingzhi:. And fixed these. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 22:54, 30 November 2016 (UTC)
Sometimes you've got things all in caps, and it looks a little strange, forex: "OCUPACIÓN HUMANA PLEISTOCÉNICA EN EL", "ROUCHY et al", "COUDRAIN, ANNE; LOUBET, MICHEL;".  Lingzhi ♦ (talk) 01:34, 1 December 2016 (UTC)
Removed ALLCAPS from citations. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 17:04, 1 December 2016 (UTC)

Award

Hi Jo-Jo Eumerus, congrats again for the excellent article Lake Tauca and I enjoyed reading, reviewing and helping with it.

View of one of the most stunning remainders of Lake Tauca; Salar de Uyuni
Recognition for your Good Article
Tisquesusa (talk) 17:56, 1 December 2016 (UTC)

PS: I see you can use an awards & recognition page, to keep your awards collected ;-)

Deleted page Draft:External Development Summit (XDS)

Hi Jo-Jo Eumerus. You deleted my page Draft:External Development Summit (XDS) on 16:16, 23 September 2016. I would like to continue working on my page as I have new content to add so that it can be published. Could you please undelete my page? Thanks in advance. Chris Wren (talk) 19:18, 2 December 2016 (UTC)

Greetings, @Chris Wren:. Based on Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:External Development Summit (XDS) it seems like your draft does not meet our notability. No amount of editing can overcome a lack of notability is an essay, but it does fit. So no, unless evidence of notability has come up in the meantime I can't restore it. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 19:26, 2 December 2016 (UTC)

Pawan Pandit

Hello Jo-Jo, I came across this article while patrolling new pages. It has been deleted previously here Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Pawan Pandit. Can you check the deleted version and take further action? Hitro talk 17:22, 2 December 2016 (UTC)

Greetings, @HitroMilanese: The article text and sources are indeed almost identical to the one of the previous article, and no substantial new material - in fact some previous material appears to be missing. Definitively a G4 candidate. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 17:35, 2 December 2016 (UTC)
Do you think Rightwinghindu, Rashtraneshindi and AirNet Multimedia are socks? All 3 have no edits except this page creation specially it seems very unusual for a very new account Rightwinghindu to create a well formatted article. --Jikaoli Kol (talk) 17:44, 2 December 2016 (UTC)
Possibly, although the versions each of them created are fairly different. Something for WP:SPI, perhaps? Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 19:28, 2 December 2016 (UTC)

FAC for Lake Tauca

Hi -- I got a little tied up this evening and haven't had much of a chance to read the article, but if you're interested in taking it to FAC, I can read it and post a review on the talk page. The review would be more or less what I'd post at FAC; I'd also copyedit as I go through. That should give us a read on whether it's close to ready for FAC, and we can go from there. If you're interested, let me know, and I'll try to do the review in the next couple of days. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 02:10, 1 December 2016 (UTC)

@Mike Christie: Yes, that would be lovely! Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 06:45, 1 December 2016 (UTC)
OK -- if I don't get to it this morning, it'll be tonight or tomorrow. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 10:58, 1 December 2016 (UTC)
Mike, I also have Jennifer Lawrence prepared for FAC. Could you take a look and tell if the prose is good enough? – FrB.TG (talk) 09:18, 3 December 2016 (UTC)
Hi, FrB.TG, glad to see you decided to stick with FAC. Yes, I can take a look, but it'll be after I finish helping Jo-Jo with Lake Tauca. That might be two or three weeks, depending on how fast the two of us work, so you may want to ask someone else. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 11:46, 3 December 2016 (UTC)

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18:07, 5 December 2016 (UTC)

La Reforma Caldera title

I'll probably be able to copyedit it today. Would a better title be La Reforma (caldera)? "Caldera" doesn't need to be capitalized (although I'll link it in the first sentence, since I was unsure of its exact meaning), and parenthetical disambiguation is customary here. Very nice article; I'm looking forward to copyediting it. All the best, Miniapolis 15:09, 5 December 2016 (UTC)

@Miniapolis: Yes, that article's probably better off under the parens title. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 16:01, 5 December 2016 (UTC)
Thanks for the reply; I'll move it, and ping you when I finish the copyedit. All the best, Miniapolis 18:00, 5 December 2016 (UTC)