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Hello Diannaa, I have seen your earlier messages regarding plagiarism issues. Hence I did my best to reword the texts of this lemma. Admittedly I did not go into the lengthy Wiki texts on copyright because it looked unpalatable. Now I went more into detail and read about close paraphrasing and substantial similarity - I fear that the sections I wrote fall under those definitions. I wonder however, how strong the similarities are - I guess that you have an automated system to track such similarities; can such reports be availed? I will rework the texts thoroughly, using additional sources. Yet would it be possible to return the original, so that at least I can reuse part of links and references? Greetings Jnyssen (talk) 14:47, 5 September 2019 (UTC)Reply
Would it be possible to verify for instance this page Fogera cattle, which was reworked after your earlier comments. Is it OK now? Jnyssen (talk) 14:50, 5 September 2019 (UTC)Reply

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As reviewing administrator, I almost listed the article for deletion as primarily advocacy, but instead, since he may be notable as an author or professor, I removed the very extensive amount of advocacy from this article, leaving only the dscription of his career and list of publications . Please do not restore what i removed. It does not matter how laudable his intentions and correct his ideas. Advocacy is advocacy, and we do not do it in an encyclopedia . DGG ( talk ) 01:17, 29 September 2019 (UTC)Reply

Strange. This summarises his work. How would you then handle a page like this? Erasmus and many similar? Jnyssen (talk) 08:00, 29 September 2019 (UTC)Reply
Please see WP:EINSTEIN. DGG ( talk ) 01:10, 6 October 2019 (UTC)Reply
That page refers to inclusion of trivialities, which was not the case for Petrella. The question is whether a scientist's main findings should be mentioned in the lemma Jnyssen (talk) 07:33, 6 October 2019 (UTC)Reply

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Sustainable agriculture edit

I find it most regrettable that you should seek to get your way by edit-warring. The normal cycle is BOLD (that was your first edit) - REVERT (that was me) - DISCUSS (the "BRD" cycle). You have replaced discussion with combat, which is disruptive. I will start a discussion on the talk page now. Chiswick Chap (talk) 08:53, 13 October 2019 (UTC)Reply

BTW your travel photographs are splendid. Chiswick Chap (talk) 09:32, 13 October 2019 (UTC)Reply

Sorry, I thought to initiate a discussion in this way. What are the steps to start a BRD discussion? Jnyssen (talk) 10:04, 13 October 2019 (UTC)Reply

(I do hope that this is then the correct way to initiate a discussion?) Hello, I just was in the supermarket and thought it would be a good illustration. With regard to apparent brand, I agree with you - would it be an option to take it in the hand and cover the brand's name (in this case Delhaize) when taking the photo? Jnyssen (talk) 10:23, 13 October 2019 (UTC)Reply

Thanks. No, I don't think that would be enough; the branding and trademark will cover the whole design of the packaging. For a discussion of the image, that would be here or on Commons. For a discussion about any article, that would be on the article's talk page, but I already started one for Sustainable agriculture. I expect the image will be deleted for the reasons given, so the best thing now would be to remove the image from any articles it is in really. Chiswick Chap (talk) 11:06, 13 October 2019 (UTC)Reply

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A barnstar for you! edit

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Thank you for the nice words. I left a message on User_talk:Dr._Blofeld regarding map representation of geotagged articles Jnyssen (talk) 07:49, 28 February 2020 (UTC)Reply
Thanks. Feel free to put up your entries on Wikipedia:WikiProject Africa/The 10,000 Challenge, we don't have editors adding Ethiopia articles regularly!♦ Dr. Blofeld 13:44, 28 February 2020 (UTC)Reply

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Reliable sources to add Ethiopian perspective to Gondrand massacre? edit

Hi and thanks for being an ally in the never-ending struggle to achieve a neutral point of view on topics related to Italian colonialism in Africa. I know that it can be a slog sometimes.

I've recently had to disengage with a (shall we say passionate?) IP on the Talk page of the Gondrand massacre article. I'm hoping to reboot the conversation and invite other voices to join in, especially those who are active in WikiProject Ethiopia and WikiProject Africa. But I'm also wondering more specifically if you have or know of any good sources that tell the narrative of the Gondrand massacre from an Ethiopian perspective, or just give helpful context beyond what's already available on pages like Second Italo-Ethiopian War?

Thanks again for being a collaborative voice. Generalrelative (talk) 22:33, 12 June 2020 (UTC)Reply

Sorry I am not a historian, and I am afraid no Ethiopian historian has ever studied this. In that war there have been so many killings, this one was just picked out by Mussoli's propaganda; and a die-hard on wikipedia to continue maintaining that tale. If this Gondrand massacre would deserve some attention it is because it is an illustration how war propaganda works. There are hundreds of massacres in Ethiopia's war history, unfortunately none of them documented...
Just to give you the state of the art: not any historian has ever been to the places that were attacked with mustard gas by the Italian army; no one ever researched or documented this from point of view of the victims. I happen to have the aerial photos and maps at hand that the Italians used to prepare these gas attacks. Could never spot a historian that was keen to research such bottom up history. Soon there will be no direct witnesses left of these war crimes. Jnyssen (talk) 04:37, 13 June 2020 (UTC)Reply
Thanks, that's informative. And good point about this article being more an illustration of how propaganda works than anything else. I hope that a new generation of bottom-up historians will emerge (along with funding from universities) to redress the situation, but I suppose it wouldn't be wise to hold my breath until it happens. Generalrelative (talk) 10:37, 13 June 2020 (UTC)Reply

Hi Jnyssen, thanks for your recent edit at Gondrand massacre. It inspired me to seek out and find some helpful new sources, update some mistaken information, and create a new section on Italian efforts to publicize the events. I did feel I had to cut your comment comparing it to Bloody Sunday (1939), since I believe it ran afoul of WP's policy against original research (WP:OR). Unless you know of a reliable secondary source that makes the connection? If so I think it would be really valuable to put it back in along with a citation. Generalrelative (talk) 03:52, 25 July 2020 (UTC)Reply

Yes, sorry, that was too fast to publish without sources. These 4 sources all address the "Gondrand massacre" in the wider frame of Italian fascist propaganda. I'll place them in the discussion of the article, but no time to work on it now.

Andreani, M. and Pazzaglia, N. eds., 2019. Photography as Power: Dominance and Resistance Through the Italian Lens. Cambridge Scholars Publishing.

Sbacchi, A., 2005. Poison gas and atrocities in the Italo-Ethiopian war (1935–1936). In Italian colonialism (pp. 47-56). Palgrave Macmillan, New York.

Ben-Ghiat, R. and Fuller, M. eds., 2016. Italian colonialism. Springer.

Borruso, P., 2020. Debre Libanos 1937: Il più grave crimine di guerra dell'Italia. Gius. Laterza & Figli Spa.

Cool, thank you! Generalrelative (talk) 14:11, 25 July 2020 (UTC)Reply

Just FYI I posted about the IP user's recent racist screed at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#An instance of racial harassment / attack?. Wikipedia does indeed have policies against behavior like that. In solidarity, Generalrelative (talk) 20:32, 29 July 2020 (UTC)Reply

Articles on schools edit

Hi I’m a new page reviewer and I wanted to contact you about six articles you created about schools in Ethiopia back in April. These articles have been left in the queue unreviewed for an unusually long time, because.....they’re unusual. We don’t automatically consider schools to be notable. All schools are likely to have some local coverage. In most countries they are also covered in reliable independent sources such as school inspectors’ reports. These aren’t sufficient however to support a stand-alone article. The articles you created rely on reports about sanitation and while they give us an unusual level of detail about school sanitation, those details don’t really add up to notability.

I’m therefore going to redirect the articles to the articles for their local towns. If more details become available about the schools at some time in the future, the redirects can be undone and the articles restored with new material added.

Please don’t be discouraged by this and thank you for continuing to create articles about Ethiopia. All the best Mccapra (talk) 17:41, 19 July 2020 (UTC)Reply

Are articles on schools only allowed for rich countries? edit

I totally disagree with your deletion of articles on village schools in Ethiopia. Thanks to the sanitation reports we can illustrate the situation of some schools in developing countries. And the articles hold much more information than sanitation only. For schools in, say, England you are not harsh like that. See for instance this list of schools in just one county: List of schools in Surrey; most of them have their own page on Wikipedia! And such is the case for almost every district in the UK or US. So, Wikipedia will allow pages for schools of rich countries, but not schools of poor countries? I will now revert the deletion of one of these schools, and open the same discussion there. If no convincing arguments can be brought, then all pages for these schools need to be restored.Jnyssen (talk) 04:35, 20 July 2020 (UTC)Reply

Recent edit reversion edit

In this edit here, I reverted some information that appears to be a violation of our copyright policy.

I provided a brief summary of the problem in the edit summary, which should be visible just below my name. You can also click on the "view history" tab in the article to see the recent history of the article. This should be an edit with my name, and a parenthetical comment explaining why your edit was reverted. If that information is not sufficient to explain the situation, please ask.S Philbrick(Talk) 12:35, 25 July 2020 (UTC)Reply

Your link yields an error message. Which is the page concerned?Jnyssen (talk) 12:46, 25 July 2020 (UTC)Reply

Nomination of Yeresere school for deletion edit

 

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Why you deleted the contents under the "background" thread of Transitional Government of Tigray? edit

Dear Jnyssen, it is not clear why you deleted the contents in the Transitional Government of Tigray. You said that it is not related to Transitional Government of Tigray. But, I believe that content you removed tells why and how the transitional government has been born. But you removed it without any notice. I need more clarification about your action. Thank you, iYitbe A-21 - 5:09 PM, 10 November 2020

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War crimes documentation must be preserved properly edit

hi Jan. In your external role as a Wikipedia-notable person, it seems that you are one of the very few people who (so far) have published reports based on reliable contacts with victims of the war crimes and crimes against humanity that have recently taken place in Tigray Region but have received almost no media attention (Adigrat, Hagere Selam, Maryam Ts'iyon). I strongly recommend that you try to convince the survivors and their support networks to properly (securely, with backups) document their testimonies and consider other aspects (patterns of crimes and linkage to commanders) of future legal cases. The short-term interests of Wikipedia differ from the long-term interests of survivors (although the long-term information will eventually get into Wikipedia if war crimes trials are conducted).

Despite the trauma that the survivors are undoubtedly suffering, the long-term (3 years? 10 years?) interests of justice (and psychological closure of survivors) require that the survivors prepare high-quality documentation that can stand up in court. Suspected war criminals, even when human rights organisations have been convinced of their guilt, have been acquitted by the ICC due to insufficiently strong cases by the prosecution (innocence is presumed until/unless guilt is proved beyond reasonable doubt). A recent discussion in relation to the Belarusian situation states, "In order to avoid the fate of the victims of Maidan, Belarusian protestors must do more than protest... Protestors and victims must document both the acts that may constitute crimes against humanity and those that clarify the context... the patterns of those crimes and the linkage evidence that illuminates how they are... commanded... This is no easy task... However, as the Maidan experience shows, it must be done."

While universal jurisdiction for war crimes and crimes against humanity appears to have been greatly weakened in Belgium, in Germany it is being actively used, especially for the Syrian civil war ("suspects can be prosecuted even though both they and their victims are foreigners and the crime itself took place abroad"). An ICC investigation would normally require consensus among the UNSC permanent five, since Ethiopia and Eritrea are not party to the Rome Statute.

Obviously, the time frame to Wikipedia documentation of trials for war crimes and crimes against humanity for the current Tigray War will undoubtedly be long. But better that it happen late than never. Boud (talk) 15:23, 16 January 2021 (UTC)Reply

Hello, and thanks for the clear note. I will forward your note to some people who have started working on that. Myself am very busy with the Tigray war, publishing articles[1] and coordinating an appeal for humanitarian aid.[2] I even do not find time to write for wikipedia. Jnyssen (talk) 05:46, 20 January 2021 (UTC)Reply


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Proposed deletion of The Tigray war in photos edit

 

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Hello Discospinster, obviously, the photographs are on Wikimedia Commons, but there, they are not organised thematically. The copyright issue in itself is an issue for Wikimedia Commons. Part of the photos were indeed uploaded through "Twitter to Commons" and source is acknowledged. And then, indeed, there are also a few photos with missing evidence of permission. Am trying to get it fixed. If not, these photos will be removed from Commons, but that will not affect this "Photo Article". It boils down to the question whether Wikipediawe can publish photographic reports, in which a set of galleries are thematically organised?Jnyssen (talk) 04:47, 22 April 2021 (UTC)Reply

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Nomination of Afedena school for deletion edit

 
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Content doesn't verify (Demographics) edit

Some content which you duplicated into the demographics sections of 7 woreda articles and the region article (and in one woreda which Rastakwere copied and added) doesn't verify with the source. The source is about Dogu'a Tembien, which is a woreda separate and distinct from the other 7 woredas, and which also does not represent the entire Tigray Region. I am leaving the first instance and removing the other 8.

  1. Dogu'a Tembien [1]
  2. Abergele (Ethiopian District) [2]
  3. Enderta (Ethiopian District) [3] [4]
  4. Hawzen (Ethiopian District) [5]
  5. Kilte Awulaelo [6]
  6. Kola Tembien [7] [8]
  7. Saharti Samre [9]
  8. Tigray Region [10] [11]
  9. Tanqua Millash [12] (a copying by Rastakwere)

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