User talk:Hchc2009/Archive 14

DYK for Yarmouth Castle

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:01, 26 November 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Calshot Castle

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 12:01, 28 November 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Portland Castle

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:02, 29 November 2015 (UTC)

Calshot Castle

Your re-corrections are innocuous. This is obviously a favourite entry of yours. Your concern for those with less adequate English is touching, but they do have a "Simple English" Wikipedia of their own. I should keep the matter of repeat Wikilinking and overlinking in mind, however. Can be irritating to readers.

More interestingly, perhaps, I wonder whether the length of the article isn't greater than its importance deserves. Terseness is a virtue in an encyclopedia. I would say about 20,000 anschlag would be more effective than 30,000, which take some reading. For a start perhaps the length of the lead could be halved as there is a fair amount of detail in it which could wait for the body of the article. The main reasons for its importance could then stand out more clearly: as an example of a device fort, and as a coastal fortification in almost continuous use by the armed forces for 450 years.

Some duller items of information are still missing. Parking, public transport, cost of entry museum shop etc. if any. Officer and Williamson have a point about comparative costs, but it applies to all aspects of past ages and should be noted in general articles, not this specific one. Costs of construction are in any case soon overshadowed by costs of manning, equipping and maintenance, but comparing costs with that of other castles of the period would be more relevant. We don't build castles these days, unfortunately.

With best wishes, Brian Bmcln1 (talk) 11:25, 29 November 2015 (UTC)

Thanks Brian. I thought the shortening of language in your copy-editing was helpful, btw, and tightened the text up nicely. You initially lost me on anschlag though! (I'm guessing its the German for "character" / "byte"? - you learn something new every day on the wiki!) Hchc2009 (talk) 12:08, 29 November 2015 (UTC)

Sorry, it means letters plus spaces. Of course, what we count here is bytes, which comes to much the same thing. Cordially Bmcln1 (talk) 13:22, 29 November 2015 (UTC)

FAC

Hchc2009, it has been quite awhile since we spoke for the last time. I hope you're doing well. I recently nominated Juan Manuel de Rosas for FAC, but the article is often ignored because of its obscure topic. If you have time and interest, could you review it? I'd be truly grateful. The link to the Featured Article Candidacy page is here. Regards, --Lecen (talk) 13:19, 30 November 2015 (UTC)

Hope you're well too! Glad to see you're still hard at work! I'll take a look at it tomorrow night. Hchc2009 (talk) 20:15, 30 November 2015 (UTC)

I'm aware that you're probably busy, but please don't forget to finish your review. It's almost done. Regards, --Lecen (talk) 19:34, 12 December 2015 (UTC)

Cheers - should be done now. Hchc2009 (talk) 18:43, 14 December 2015 (UTC)

Hey, Hchc2009, I hope you had a good time during the end of the year. Is there something still missing in Rosas FAC? Regards, --Lecen (talk) 18:43, 4 January 2016 (UTC)

FA question

Hello, I looking at Wikipedia:Featured article candidates#Supporting and opposing. In the event that I get an opposition to my nomination, if I agree with some but disagree with other improvements/suggestions or oppositions of a reviewer and I feel that in principle the suggestions or concerns being made are not fully legitimate problems (which ), I am only required to state that in my opinion the appropriate concerns are addresses, correct? --KAVEBEAR (talk) 06:23, 10 December 2015 (UTC)

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It's that season again...

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		Wishing you and yours a Happy Holiday Season, from the horse and bishop person. May the year ahead be productive and troll-free. Ealdgyth - Talk 17:25, 21 December 2015 (UTC)

Have a good holiday season as well! Hchc2009 (talk) 16:59, 24 December 2015 (UTC)

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And the year is starting out well...

Just got reverted when I reverted someone's edits here. Of course, no discussion on the talk page. (sighs). Obviously, using a 1823 source is so much better than using modern scholarship - so we gotta just cram those refs in, right? Ealdgyth - Talk 18:36, 4 January 2016 (UTC)

I think the volume is actually from the 1780s and 1790s originally... I've done a BRD revert, and left a note on the talk page. Hchc2009 (talk) 19:28, 4 January 2016 (UTC)

Better and better. Okay, back to detangling the various medieval Nevilles. Ugh, it's a mess. Ealdgyth - Talk 22:17, 4 January 2016 (UTC)

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Oct - Dec 15 Quarterly Article Reviews

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Thanks Rupert! Hchc2009 (talk) 08:55, 9 January 2016 (UTC)

Hurst Castle 1862 picture

Hiya, I hope the attempt to write about Hurst Castle is going well - its probably a really big job! Anyhoo I noticed that you cropped this picture over on commons. In fact that picture is being used to illustrate this book I added to Wikisource a couple of years ago, and probably shouldn't be cropped. :) But don't worry I moved your version over to this file - hope that helps! Pasicles (talk) 17:11, 12 January 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for fixing that! Almost there with the Hurst Castle draft, should have something up by Saturday I reckon... Hchc2009 (talk) 17:27, 12 January 2016 (UTC)

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Boulonnais

Hi,

Can you tell me why the sections on Boulonnais UK were removed? Boulonnaishorse (talk) 16:17, 24 January 2016 (UTC)

They are unsourced, but more importantly, they are utterly undue weight (see WP:UNDUE) for the article. Ealdgyth - Talk 16:22, 24 January 2016 (UTC)

Thank you very much!

I have good news: Rosas is a FA now. I hope I'll be able to work on Platine War eventually, although I have less and less time every year. I appreciate your help. You did a great job there, reviewing the article. Kind regards, --Lecen (talk) 02:55, 31 January 2016 (UTC)

Happy to help! I'm looking forwards to seeing the Platine War get to FA in due course...! Hchc2009 (talk) 07:51, 31 January 2016 (UTC)

Thank you for supporting my RfA

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	Thank you for participating in and supporting my RfA. It was very much appreciated. Hawkeye7 (talk) 22:17, 1 February 2016 (UTC)

No problem - thanks for putting yourself forward to serve the community. Hchc2009 (talk) 17:07, 6 February 2016 (UTC)

DYK for Sandsfoot Castle

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Thanks for your support

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	Thank you for participating and supporting at my RfA. It was very much appreciated, and I am humbled that the community saw fit to trust me with the tools. Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 03:24, 6 February 2016 (UTC)

No problem - thanks for putting yourself forward to serve the community. Hchc2009 (talk) 17:07, 6 February 2016 (UTC)

Talk:Pendennis Castle/GA1

I wasn't sure whether you'd seen that your nomination had finally been reviewed at the end of January. I imagine you'll want to respond to the review comments soon. BlueMoonset (talk) 22:49, 8 February 2016 (UTC)

Oops - thanks for reminding me. Should all be dealt with now. Hchc2009 (talk) 20:12, 9 February 2016 (UTC)

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George Buchanan

I've been hoping to run across an editor who is knowledgeable in history because I often copy-edit history articles and I sometimes have a question. I just saw some edits to George Buchanan, and I wonder if you would mind looking at them to be sure they are correct and appropriate. It's this edit and the one just before it.  – Corinne (talk) 02:27, 10 March 2016 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

The Writer's Barnstar

I've just had the pleasure in reading Hadleigh Castle, a ruin which I recently visited, and felt compelled to thank you for your excellent work on the article. Looking at your contributions further, I would like to heap further praise by thanking you for your wonderful work on the whole. A much valued contributor and one whose name I shall forever associate with excellent articles of incredible interest. Cheers! CassiantoTalk 21:28, 13 March 2016 (UTC)

Thanks! Very much appreciated indeed. Hchc2009 (talk) 19:05, 15 March 2016 (UTC)

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I really don't need this crap today...

Mother is in the hospital and now I'm getting hell. I'm just about done with Wikipedia ... it's way more stress any more than I really need. Ealdgyth - Talk 20:02, 8 April 2016 (UTC)

Ealdgyth, for what it's worth, when I was getting into Wikipedia a year ago, the help you gave me with my first article was really nice and, along with Hchc, showed me that there were some great editors on here who would always be willing to lend a hand. I then left this place for about a year, and I'm only recently getting back in, so I get the feeling of frustration. I can understand that someone dredging up edits from 4 years ago in that way is frustrating, but I'd hate for that to stop someone like you, who made me aim to help things around here. You being done with Wikipedia would make certainly make this place for me a little bit worse. SamWilson989 (talk) 20:08, 8 April 2016 (UTC)

I just get tired of being jumped all over for every single small thing (and really - Ostrogoths are Goths. I probably had a brain fart when I did it - just automatically added "ostro" but ... ) but of course, it's more fun to have chips on your shoulder and jump all over someone. Because ... I don't know. I don't get the whole outlook. Ealdgyth - Talk 20:10, 8 April 2016 (UTC)

From seeing his most recent edit, I think the editor was putting you, and probably myself and other editors who replied, in the category of an editor who brought an article to FA status and doesn't want anyone to touch it now they think it's perfect. He was defending a newcomer that he thought was being attacked, probably because he's equally frustrated with editor refusing to see a new POV. That's the problem with many editors on here; we're all so frustrated, we take it out on each other at the detriment of our ability to improve articles. SamWilson989 (talk) 20:25, 8 April 2016 (UTC)

I"ve restored more of the edits, with sources. I don't have Davies' Europe out any more - I've got at least half my library packed up to move. Nor do I have access to Bauer or Cunliffe - I got those through ILL. Whatever. I'm going to go nurse my headache. It got worse for some reason. Ealdgyth - Talk 20:51, 8 April 2016 (UTC)

I'm afraid I can't help you with the references, my own shelves are pretty small and limited, but it seems the issue has been resolved for now, and I hope you soon feel better nevertheless. SamWilson989 (talk) 20:59, 8 April 2016 (UTC)

Ealdgyth, I hope today's going better for you and that your mum's doing okay: I hope it's nothing too serious. In the meantime, if you can, try to find some time to relax and look after yourself a bit; packing, moving, family etc. - it takes it out of us. You're a huge force for good around here... Thoughts are with you. Hchc2009 (talk) 18:51, 9 April 2016 (UTC)

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Henry VII

Hi, I wondered if you'd be interested in getting Henry VII to GA status as part of Wikipedia:WikiProject Wales/Awaken the Dragon? See the bottom list of entries to date.♦ Dr. Blofeld 21:09, 9 April 2016 (UTC)

meant to reply before... In principle yes, but in practice no - he's a little outside my time zone of expertise, and I'd have to do some serious background research which I don't quite have the personal resources for at the moment. If I can help out elsewhere, though, do let me know! Congratulation on the whole Awaken the Dragon drive, btw, it was an excellent piece of work! Hchc2009 (talk) 22:52, 13 May 2016 (UTC)

Capitalising 'king'

Where's that MOS? Gob Lofa (talk) 20:07, 10 April 2016 (UTC)

It's the MOS on job titles. Hchc2009 (talk) 20:08, 10 April 2016 (UTC)

Would you mind directing me to it? Gob Lofa (talk) 14:38, 13 April 2016 (UTC)

MOS:JOBTITLES - I know it all too well from multiple FACs...! Hchc2009 (talk) 16:25, 13 April 2016 (UTC)

John II nuisance editor SPI FYI

Hi Hc- Bravo on all your good work here. I see we've been taking turns undoing the mischief of the disruptive IP/sockpuppet editor of John II and other articles. Just wanted to let you know I opened a sockpuppet investigation on him: Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/31.221.101.173 Cheers, Eric ^talk 20:47, 10 April 2016 (UTC)

Much appreciated. Hchc2009 (talk) 20:48, 10 April 2016 (UTC)

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	Stunned by your contributions! Hurst Castle was a wonderful read, looking forward to "castles" more masterpieces from you! Sainsf <^>Feel at home 11:10, 19 April 2016 (UTC)

Thanks, very much appreciated! Hchc2009 (talk) 07:54, 23 April 2016 (UTC)

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John de Gray

Can you keep an eye on this please? Already had issues at Walter de Gray and now we're running into the same issues at John de Gray. Ealdgyth - Talk 13:07, 24 April 2016 (UTC)

Will do. Hchc2009 (talk) 19:56, 26 April 2016 (UTC)

@Hchc2009: are you two in league? Qv. House of Grey. Many thanks. L'honorable (talk) 21:24, 12 May 2016 (UTC)

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Pennard Castle

Nice job expanding the article. Looks pretty much ready for GA.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 19:14, 30 April 2016 (UTC)

Cheers! Will put it forward in a moment. Hchc2009 (talk) 06:49, 1 May 2016 (UTC)

Brillant. Dunno if you're interested, but I just created Hay Castle and found the online material from Gatehouse, coflein and British Listed Buildings rather confusing. It could use some TLC using real sources if you've got the time/interest/resources to hand.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 16:56, 1 May 2016 (UTC)

Just took a quick look. Yeah, the descriptions in the usual literature are a bit of a mess! I'll see what I can do tomorrow morning; I think the problem is that the Coflein sources etc. aren't pulling out the phases particularly clearly - the aerial photos make it much easier to see how you start with a ringwork; move to a ringwork with a large tower/keep and curtain wall; then build sideways from that to make a mansion, knocking down the walls in the process; and finally end up with the rather dilapidated buildings today. The sources are a bit fragmentary though... will see what I can do to help. Hchc2009 (talk) 17:19, 1 May 2016 (UTC)

Done. Hchc2009 (talk) 18:05, 2 May 2016 (UTC)

Inflation

I see, thanks for telling me. So we're left with "staples, workers' rent, small service bills (doctor's costs, train tickets)"? i.e. stuff that cost a few shillings in the Victorian era. I've been adding this, for about six years, to the cost of large building such as churches, so I guess I'll need to go back and remove all of them? Or maybe I need to find someone who has "economic training"? Martinevans123 (talk) 12:09, 2 May 2016 (UTC)

There are alternative measures (but no templates as far as I'm aware) for projects and buildings etc. that don't depend on the CPI/RPI - it depends on what meaning you want to draw out from the comparison. Happy to help recommend one. Hchc2009 (talk) 13:04, 2 May 2016 (UTC)

That's very good of you. I'm not sure I've wanted to draw out any comparison. I've just wanted to translate the cost into something that is meaningful for today's reader. For example the cost of the Bristol Channel floods, 1607 - "approximately £5,000", etc. Martinevans123 (talk) 13:18, 2 May 2016 (UTC)

The best site I know of for this is the Measuring Worth one, run by some US academics. None of this is straightforward, though, and I'll admit at the outset that I'm not a qualified expert myself. To take the £5,000 example from 1607, you could use a GDP deflator, which would give you £1.036 million in 2014 terms; if you used an earning index, you'd have an equivalent of £14.5 million; for a share of GDP equivalency, you'd have £301.5 million. For the floods, you're probably most interested in "how much damage to the economy did it cause?", so the GDP equivalent might be most appropriate - you'd be analysing the damage to the 1607 economy and working out an equivalent loss to the modern UK economy.

For the Woodchester Mansion and the £100,000 in 1854, you could be looking at figures ranging from £8.3 million to £257.1 million; I suspect that the per capita GDP variant might be most appropriate, as this is a rich man's luxury real estate and status symbol, in which case it would come out at £109.3 million in 2014 terms. There are some useful essays on the site which go into this in more detail, and the guys that run it are pretty good about taking queries. Hchc2009 (talk) 18:21, 2 May 2016 (UTC)

Thank you very much. That's very useful. Do you think it belongs in the lede at Woodchester Mansion or perhaps lower down in the article? Any what would you use for structures e.g. Old Wye Bridge, Chepstow#The 1816 bridge or churches e.g. Christ Church, Wesham? Martinevans123 (talk) 18:36, 2 May 2016 (UTC)

My personal advice would be lower down in the article; the main theme isn't an economic one. For the churches and bridges, they feel like projects to me - perhaps the historic opportunity cost figures? I remember having lots of problems/dilemmas with these sorts of things in the gold rush article I helped out on, they're tricky to get right. Hchc2009 (talk) 18:41, 2 May 2016 (UTC)

That seems very sensible. I would very much appreciate you adding it at Woodchester Mansion, so that I could see an example of the referencing format. Thanks again for all your help. Martinevans123 (talk) 18:52, 2 May 2016 (UTC)

The 1822 sum of £330,000 at Beckford's Tower might also be a good one to demonstrate. Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 20:19, 7 May 2016 (UTC)

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I think that Legobot was down for a time and failed to notify you that I've finished the review, so I'm stepping in to do so.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 22:14, 14 May 2016 (UTC)

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Lawrence Booth

Unsourced Coat of Arms being added ... Ealdgyth - Talk 22:57, 10 May 2016 (UTC)

I've requested again that they provide a source for this. Hchc2009 (talk) 18:33, 12 May 2016 (UTC)

I'm feeling a bit press-ganged here - despite the fact that what I say is true, which by clear implication you dispute, is this really the way Wiki works? I believe all three of us know much about relevant topics, but I am feeling mighty uncomfortable about expending much energy right now if this is the way things are going to proceed. Please check with heraldry project & they will give you chapter and verse so as to allay any fears you may have. Thank you. L'honorable (talk) 20:23, 12 May 2016 (UTC)
PS. qv. Burke's Extinct and Dormant Baronetcies.

@Hchc2009: I am not edit-warring. I have uploaded a perfectly accurate image of Archbishop Booth's COA which you have unilaterally decided to take down. Why? I have also provided evidence above. I shall wait 5 minutes before reloading the relevant (in all its meanings) arms & trust that you cannot find any fault whatsoever in this representation of Archbishop Booth's armorial bearings. However, should you have reason to quibble please write to me on my Talk Page rather than edit-war yourself. Many thanks & I trust you understand. L'honorable (talk) 21:05, 12 May 2016 (UTC)

As per previous, please do not readd the image yet again without providing a citation on the article page. Hchc2009 (talk) 21:07, 12 May 2016 (UTC)

I have done it as you request - please arrange the ref. as you like because it is not easy to configure, but the info is all there under BOOTH, Bt... Thank you. L'honorable (talk) 21:15, 12 May 2016 (UTC)
PS. please acknowledge

Not trying to be difficult, but which bit there says that the Archbishop used this coat of arms? I'm working on a small screen at the moment! Hchc2009 (talk) 21:23, 12 May 2016 (UTC)

If you look under BOOTH, Bt in Burke's EDB you will see Lawrence Booth mentioned on page 71. L'honorable (talk) 21:27, 12 May 2016 (UTC)

You know, you should be discussing this on the talk page of the article, correct? Where I tried initially discussing it a while back. Article content should be discussed on the article talk pages - not on editor's talk pages. It makes it much easier to deal with discussions. Please take this discussion there. Ealdgyth - Talk 21:29, 12 May 2016 (UTC)

Also I draw your attention to https://www.exploreyork.org.uk/client/en_GB/search/asset/1018068;jsessionid=5E0DE45E24C4B6C3AEF895F5CE0A66A4.enterprise-14000 & can we be done with this ridiculous argument? L'honorable (talk) 21:32, 12 May 2016 (UTC)

Please take to the article page, and add a citation that supports the claim being made. Hchc2009 (talk) 21:34, 12 May 2016 (UTC)

I have now made my representation to Cassianto who has been dragged into this utterly needless argument. If Wiki does not want good info, amen. L'honorable (talk) 21:41, 12 May 2016 (UTC)

I "dragged" myself in as a way to help you to understand how Wikipedia works. Good info must be cited. Cassianto^Talk 23:18, 12 May 2016 (UTC)

Thanks Cassianto - much appreciated! I'm hoping that this ends with L'honorable finally identifying a reliable source for the claim... Hchc2009 (talk) 23:21, 12 May 2016 (UTC)

You're more than welcome. Cassianto^Talk 23:30, 12 May 2016 (UTC)

He's having a bad night of it tonight... he now appears to want to add a quotation directly repeating the cited material in the main article for some reason. A little strange. Hchc2009 (talk) 23:33, 12 May 2016 (UTC)

Oh dear; I'll keep an eye out. Cassianto^Talk 23:35, 12 May 2016 (UTC)

'Ta. Hchc2009 (talk) 23:36, 12 May 2016 (UTC)

Oh, look. Ralph Neville got a visit. This sort of thing is the thing that keeps me ambivilent about Wikipedia. Really... linking "royal clerk" to herald. Ealdgyth - Talk 23:00, 13 May 2016 (UTC)

(talk page stalker)... Seen, watch listed. Doh, another bloody comma splice ;) Cassianto^Talk 23:02, 13 May 2016 (UTC)

I see I have to figure out what in Hades a comma splice is... Ealdgyth - Talk 23:09, 13 May 2016 (UTC)

It's the sort of thing you'd expect to find in a post 1970s Mills & Boon novel; airy fairy, romanticised sentences that read like a quote: "Sally leant forward provocatively, her lips quivered with anticipation". In good English, the comma should be followed by a conjunction, in this case an "and". It's frowned upon on in England, [and] optional/compulsory everywhere else. That's my understanding anyway. Cassianto^Talk 00:13, 14 May 2016 (UTC)

Henry Hoʻolulu Pitman

Would you mind reviewing this Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Henry Hoʻolulu Pitman/archive2?--KAVEBEAR (talk) 14:53, 12 May 2016 (UTC)

Yep, will take a look for you, probably tomorrow now. Hchc2009 (talk) 18:33, 12 May 2016 (UTC)

I've given my support, noting that I was involved at Peer Review. Best of luck with it! Hchc2009 (talk) 22:42, 13 May 2016 (UTC)

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• See Wikipedia:Signs of sock puppetry, especially 2.4 Editing identical articles, namely: 2.4.3 Knowledge that an obscure article exists; 2.4.4 Connection to the article; 2.4.5 Always there when needed .
• See Wikipedia:Canvassing, particularly WP:STEALTH, "Contacting users off-wiki (by e-mail or IRC, for example) to persuade them to join in discussions (unless there is a specific reason not to use talk pages)".

I would be grateful to receive your clarification. (Lobsterthermidor (talk) 21:27, 13 May 2016 (UTC))

You're accusing Hchc2009 of sockpuppetry? He's certainly not a "new user" ... that's for sure. Who do you think he's a sockpuppet of? You did like check out his background before slapping this message down, right? Hchc's got 54,000 edits - including bringing Henry I of England, Stephen I of England, and John of England to FA status. He's not a sockpuppet. He started editing in 2009 for the sake of the gods... we've collaborated a lot and he's NEVER contacted me off wiki for any sort of canvassing. Ealdgyth - Talk 21:33, 13 May 2016 (UTC)

?!? Ed ^{[talk] [majestic titan]} 21:38, 13 May 2016 (UTC)

Hilarious! Cassianto^Talk 21:40, 13 May 2016 (UTC)

Without wanting to make light of the situation, Lobster, as you're clearly upset...

In a slightly twisted way, I'm curious to know whether you think I'm a sockpuppet, or a sockpuppet master... And if so, what the pattern might be. Am I secretly supposed to be Ealdgyth, somewhere in Central Illinois, cleverly hiding my knowledge of pedigree racehorses with this account? Or Cassianto, just pretending with this account not to know anything about old cars or musical theatre? Or Smalljim, fighting vandalism with my administrator's account, and occasionally stopping to use this one for articles on medieval history? Or Justlettersandnumbers, working on horses, donkeys and Italy articles, and cunningly not revealing any knowledge of Italian when I'm editing with this account? Or am I supposed to be an immensely clever individual, who is in fact several of these people at once, with a remarkable knowledge of all sorts of subjects, spending my days and nights juggling the different accounts and writing styles for some sinister purpose?

More seriously, no, I'm neither a sockpuppet nor a sockmaster (or sockmistress). I suspect that you are feeling angry and upset about the discussions at Talk:The Grange, Broadhembury but I'd urge you to read through the comments on that page again: they're very consistent and come from editors from across the spectrum. I'd also urge you to listen to the multiple editors who have asked you to stop edit-warring there: again, there's a consistent message. Take a deep breath, have a pint of beer or whatever, and find a compromise with the editing community you can live with. Hchc2009 (talk) 22:32, 13 May 2016 (UTC)

I'm not at all angry, I'm very calm indeed. You appear to be the one who is now a bit flustered? The problem I have identified relates to User:Smalljim. Please study the 5 edits I have listed at the top of this post (Kirkham House (15:23, 8 May 2016‎), The Grange, Broadhembury (06:46, 10 May 2016‎ ), Talk:The Grange, Broadhembury (06:46, 10 May 2016); John Wadham (died 1578) (06:28, 12 May 2016‎); Manor of Orleigh (11:17, 13 May 2016‎)) and again, please be so kind as to clarify why this is not prima facie evidence for a reasonable person to suspect that something is amiss. By the way, message to your mates above, I don't care how many edits he's done - 54,000 or one million - or how many barnstars he's won. We're all equal here and all have to follow the same rules. He does not need your advocacy, just let him respond calmly, to the point and in his own time.(Lobsterthermidor (talk) 10:56, 14 May 2016 (UTC))

I've replied above, Lobster. If you want to take it further, please feel free to discuss with User: Smalljim or take the matter to ANI. Hchc2009 (talk) 11:00, 14 May 2016 (UTC)

I do want to take it further, as you do not appear to want to clarify the matter here, which would be the simplest course of action, so I will be taking the matter to AN/I as you suggest. As you know myself and Smalljim were involved in a very lengthy and bitter dispute which was resolved on 9 November 2013 in an AN/I closure report by Admin Kim Dent-Brown with the following words: "The consensus appears to be that you should both go away, act your age, leave one another alone and get on with editing". He subsequently made a WP:STEALTH WP:CANVASS approach to her (here), unknown to me until now, in which he asked her: "Any chance you could reword the AN/I closure to balance things up a bit?", as he has now revealed in Talk:The Grange, Broadhembury (20:14, 10 May 2016), which he characterised as "a brief conversation". I am not prepared to disregard Kim's much valued and very wise advice. The person concerned here after a self imposed WP:IBAN of almost three years has now popped up again on 23 April 2016 and has daily recommenced bombarding me with messages and notifications on a variety of topics seeking to renew interaction with me. In fact he has acted in the present dispute as the chief cheer-leader, canvasser and general flame-fanner, and has managed to spread the dispute to a variety of other pages, which action you have been acting in collaboration with, see your edits with him on Manor of Orleigh. As I have stated in the present dispute on Talk:The Grange, Broadhembury, which you are fully involved in, I will be following Kim's advice and will not be entering into any dispute with this editor on any level.(Lobsterthermidor (talk) 11:55, 14 May 2016 (UTC))

You were pinged about that conversation with Kim Dent-Brown ("her"??!), Lobsterthermidor. I tried to mend things between us as the wise Kim suggested, but I've been rudely rebuffed, several times. So I now have lots of wise-Kim points ;-)

Sorry to take up your talk space with this, Hchc2009. In fact at Manor of Orleigh I cursed at your edits after my first two since I was working on tidying the referencing at the same time and we edit-conflicted. But I fixed it and sent you thanks anyway :)  —SMALLJIM  19:21, 14 May 2016 (UTC)

Bonville–Courtenay feud

Hi Hch, hope all's well. Heres a bit more positive news than recent events have allowed (Drewe family springs to mind!). I've done a bit of work on this article; could you take a look and let me know if it's suitable for peer review, at your own leisure? I don't want to submit it if it's a waste of other editors' time. Cheers- have a good weekend! _Fortuna ^{Imperatrix Mundi} 16:34, 15 May 2016 (UTC)

Not too bad here! Just been looking into sand dune drifts on the South Wales coast! (the things you learn about out on the wiki!)

I think it's ready for peer review - looks strong. Some very quick initial thoughts:

You might want to consider breaking up some of the longer paragraphs into two. They'd work fine in print, but the evidence is in favour of it being harder to digest information in longer paragraphs on screens (particularly mobiles). "local politics" might break at "Bonville was recipient to much royal favour..." for example.

At peer review, I'd raise the quotations - because they aren't ascribed in-line (e.g. "Professor Bloggs said...'...') it is very hard to see if they are modern descriptions, or a modern professor quoting a contemporary source.

Cherry and Storey there, but I wondered if there's a bit more of this recent work that could be incorporated? I was thinking this, this and this might have trails worth exploring.

I'll watch the page, but let me know if you send it to PR and I'll have a further look through. Hchc2009 (talk) 17:00, 15 May 2016 (UTC)

Thanks very much Hch, I'll probably get on with that tomorrow (it's rather nice Sunday evening here!). Confession: I had baulked at going through my bookshelves, but you are right of course- there's far more elsewhere. Interesting what you say about the visualisation; I agree, and have chopped it up. Cheers! _Fortuna ^{Imperatrix Mundi} 17:09, 15 May 2016 (UTC)

I've a soft-spot for 15th century British patronage studies! :) Hchc2009 (talk) 17:10, 15 May 2016 (UTC)

Ha! "To my truste & welboved cousyn gretings": Good man. Will report any progress, cheers! _Fortuna ^{Imperatrix Mundi} 19:25, 15 May 2016 (UTC)

Hello again Hchc. I've done a bit of wok on it, and have sent to PR. Tragically, there are some basic errors: I can't seem to do a spell check en-wiki, and nor can I utilise the refill thing for filling out the references. Think both those problems are something to do with my browser settings, but no idea what! Hope all's well? Cheers, _Fortuna ^{Imperatrix Mundi} 16:52, 16 May 2016 (UTC)

Cool. Will take a look at it this week. Just enjoying the sunshine! Hchc2009 (talk) 18:18, 16 May 2016 (UTC)

Hi, Hchc, happy Thursday! Tell- no hassle- but did you have a chance to look that thing over? New article on R.L. Storey just arrived :) cheers! _Fortuna ^{Imperatrix Mundi} 19:02, 19 May 2016 (UTC)

Done a bit; will try to cover off the rest at the weekend. Hchc2009 (talk) 21:05, 19 May 2016 (UTC)

No worries- sorry I thought a week had passed, i was only a few days. There's no rush- and enjoy your weekend! Leave it til next week eh. Cheers! _Fortuna ^{Imperatrix Mundi} 21:31, 19 May 2016 (UTC)

Hi again Hchc2009, just a quickie; I'm about to nominate it for GA, and wondered what subtopic it was covered by- the noblity one, world history, or warfare? TGIF mate! _Fortuna ^{Imperatrix Mundi} 18:23, 27 May 2016 (UTC)

I'd advise "warfare" - ideally you want a reviewer with a focus on / background in medieval conflicts. Hchc2009 (talk) 18:26, 27 May 2016 (UTC)

Done. Thanks very much for all your help! _Fortuna ^{Imperatrix Mundi} 18:32, 27 May 2016 (UTC)

Always happy to help! Hchc2009 (talk) 18:38, 27 May 2016 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Pennard Castle

The article Pennard Castle you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Pennard Castle for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already been on the main page as an "In the news" or "Did you know" item, you can nominate it to appear in Did you know. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Sturmvogel 66 -- Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 20:21, 15 May 2016 (UTC)

Thanks Sturmvogel! Hchc2009 (talk) 17:08, 16 May 2016 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Southsea Castle

Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Southsea Castle you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Sturmvogel 66 -- Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 01:00, 17 May 2016 (UTC)

AN/I

There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. (Lobsterthermidor (talk) 10:06, 19 May 2016 (UTC))