Feyyazustaer

Speedy deletion nomination of Turk Gitar

Hello Feyyazustaer,

I wanted to let you know that I just tagged Turk Gitar for deletion, because the article doesn't clearly say why the subject is important enough to be included in an encyclopedia.

If you feel that the article shouldn't be deleted and want more time to work on it, you can contest this deletion, but please don't remove the speedy deletion tag from the top.

You can leave a note on my talk page if you have questions. Trivialist (talk) 03:26, 12 October 2014 (UTC)

June 2021

This is your only warning; if you insert a spam link to Wikipedia again, you may be blocked from editing without further notice. Persistent spammers may have their websites blacklisted, preventing anyone from linking to them from all Wikimedia sites as well as potentially being penalized by search engines. Bbb23 (talk) 13:19, 6 June 2021 (UTC)

Hi. I really don't get why you deleted my reviews from the pages of the albums. I need to know the reason. On the other hand, we are one of the biggest publications of the rock community. We are not amateurs, and our album reviews deserve to take a place on Wikipedia. Feyyazustaer (talk) 14:44, 6 June 2021 (UTC)

You are not permitted to promote yourself on Wikipedia. You have a conflict of interest in your edits, and there's nothing to demonstrate that your website is a reliable source.--Bbb23 (talk) 15:18, 6 June 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for your quick response, but promote? You are so funny. Maybe you have to search to find out who we are. As TG Media, we have 7 websites that are reaching 20 million visitors per month. Metalheadzone.com is our biggest website, which has 5 years of background in the rock and metal publication business, and Rock Celebrities is the new side project. Unlike MHZ, we write reviews in RC. You are making a terrible mistake. I would like to ask: can you add RC reviews on the pages of albums again? Feyyazustaer (talk) 15:31, 6 June 2021 (UTC)

Do any of your companies/websites have articles on Wikipedia?--Bbb23 (talk) 16:07, 6 June 2021 (UTC)

No, because I don't want to be in front of people. That's why I never gave an interview or write an article about how we grow this company. I know that if I want to create my own pages on Wikipedia, I have to show a source for the info. So, I never gave an interview to tell my story and that's why we don't have any Wikipedia page. But you can see that lots of Wikipedia articles are using Metalheadzone.com as a source. Check the screenshot below. On the other hand, I want to show you our referral (check the second screenshot) traffic from en.Wikipedia. It's just 4... So, we don't need traffic from Wikipedia, I am adding our content because it's useful. These contents are professional-level reviews. You have to believe me. Also you can check our publications on Google News: Metalhead Zone, Rock Celebrities, From The Stage, Gaimer, The Red Carpet, and Drama Collector. Screenshot 1: https://ibb.co/w7HF5Gs - Screenshot 2: https://ibb.co/VS19pjW Feyyazustaer (talk) 16:20, 6 June 2021 (UTC)

That's why I never gave an interview or write an article about how we grow this company. Are you referring to the new company or another larger company? Who's "we", meaning are you a part-owner of any of these companies?--Bbb23 (talk) 17:24, 6 June 2021 (UTC)

I'm the owner but I have a team featuring 12 people. TG Media is the company, the websites are products and brands. Check it: www.tgmedia.us Feyyazustaer (talk) 17:37, 6 June 2021 (UTC)

You've promoted yourself and your companies before on Wikipedia. See Turk Gitar (only administrators can see this article), which you created and was deleted back in 2014. You haven't done anything else on Wikipedia until now. Your conflict of interest is unfortunately pervasive: it covers all articles to which you want to add a mention of one of your companies or yourself. Certainly, continuing as you have been is unacceptable. The only question is whether there's a way for you to continue that is permissible. I can look into this further, but first I want to know whether you're still interested because I seriously doubt the restrictions you will have to work under will please you, and I don't relish spending more time on this issue.--Bbb23 (talk) 17:57, 6 June 2021 (UTC)

As you said, it was 7 years ago. I was a child at that time. I don't have any expectations about getting traffic from Wikipedia, or promoting my company. Yes, I'm not a contributor of Wikipedia until the last two weeks. I told my story to you, we started to write album reviews and I wanted to add them on Wikipedia because they are valuable reviews. I want just 5 minutes from you, I think you are a metalhead and rock listener like me. Just read my recent review about AC/DC's recent album, and you make the decision about is it reliable for Wikipedia or not. Just read it, I will respect your final decision: https://rockcelebrities.net/ac-dc-power-up-album-review/ Btw, I would love to know what I have to do about getting credit and respect from Wikipedia. Feyyazustaer (talk) 18:08, 6 June 2021 (UTC)

A child? You must be quite young now. It is not up to me to decide whether your reviews are "valuable". My job is to ensure that Wikipedia's policies are followed, and, as I've already said, if all you want to do is to add reviews from your websites to existing articles, that's probably not going to work. I'm getting a bit tired of this, so please answer my last question about whether you would be willing to edit Wikipedia under significant restrictions.--Bbb23 (talk) 18:15, 6 June 2021 (UTC)

OK. I want it. On the other hand, I have no doubt that our readers will add us on Wikipedia sooner or later... We don't need Wikipedia, Wikipedia needs us to take info by using it as a source. You will understand the difference and see the point you all missing. Just look at that, Def Leppard drummer shared our article on his IG page, and you are saying that we are not a reliable source. No offense but it's just bulshit. Thanks for your time. https://www.instagram.com/p/CPtgXwVFUMi/ - https://rockcelebrities.net/def-leppards-rick-allen-will-collaborate-with-dj-ravidrums-to-do-a-rockin-edm-dj-set/

I'm seconding Bbb23. It is not appropriate to be adding reviews that you wrote or have connections to. It's a combination of WP:COI, WP:SPAM, and WP:PROMOTION. Wikipedia is not a means of spreading a website's influence or availability. And it certainly shouldn't be ones primary focus to editing. If editors start adding it organically, that's fine, unless there's a consensus somewhere that it doesn't meet our sourcing standards, in which it wouldn't be okay for anyone to be adding it. But you yourself need to stop adding it immediately, or your account will be blocked. Sergecross73 msg me 21:08, 6 June 2021 (UTC)

OK man. I'm done. Maybe you should delete this message from the homepage: "Welcome to Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia that anyone can edit." Obviously, it's not true. Feyyazustaer (talk) 22:30, 6 June 2021 (UTC)

Anyone can edit. You just have to edit within the rules. Feel free to go write about puppies or Jamaica or something. Just don't use Wikipedia to promote your stuff. Sergecross73 msg me 23:19, 6 June 2021 (UTC)

I see. Puppies and Jamaika, I liked your sense of humor. If you are considering it as 'promoting', you will "promote" me after my Dee Snider interview is released... I will send it to you first. Plus, Ted Nugent announced that he's working on a new studio album right now, and we are the only publication that writes this. Check it, maybe you can help me with my promotion process... https://rockcelebrities.net/ted-nugent-announces-hes-getting-back-in-the-studio-for-a-new-album/ Anyway... That's enough I guess. Take care of yourself and Wikipedia. Bye. Feyyazustaer (talk) 23:33, 6 June 2021 (UTC)