User talk:Explicit/Archive 48
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Deleted Page: Robert J. McCann
Please reverse the deletion for Robert J. McCann. He is a notable person, former head of UBS Americas, and has ties to world political and financial leaders. He is influential in the topic of economics and has some importance to golf topics. He has several news articles written about him and was well cited so he passes the notoriety requirements.
It is in the public's interest for information to be available about him. Please reverse the deletion. Thank you, Tarcanes (talk) 21:47, 16 May 2023 (UTC)
- @Tarcanes: Hi, the page was deleted as a result of Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Robert J. McCann, so I cannot unilaterally undelete the page. You will need to address the concerns raised at the deletion discussion and prove that the subject meets notability guidelines. You are free to work on a draft and submit your work through the articles for creation process. ✗plicit 23:37, 16 May 2023 (UTC)
Mohammad Sadegh Amiri
Hello, enough resources were placed for Mohammad Sadegh Amiri's page and the text was edited by several users. Why was the page deleted? Please return the page, thank you. 113.203.60.78 (talk) 14:24, 18 May 2023 (UTC)
- Consensus said otherwise. ✗plicit 14:26, 18 May 2023 (UTC)
- They are on all reputable sites, please search their names 113.203.60.78 (talk) 14:33, 18 May 2023 (UTC)
Page Deletion of Healthy Living Market
I completely understand why you flagged my article Healthy Living Market for promotional language. I would gladly edit this article so that it's within neutral point of view. Since I have cited 14 independent news sources, I believe the subject is notable enough to warrant an article. Could you please delicine the deletion so I can edit it? EliLG (talk) 16:10, 15 May 2023 (UTC)
- @EliLG: I have restored the draft, but have blanked it to remove the promotional language. You can still view the previous versions in the "history" tab and work on it from there. ✗plicit 23:31, 15 May 2023 (UTC)
- Great! Thank you! EliLG (talk) 14:54, 19 May 2023 (UTC)
Regarding XFDclosures
I just used the XFDclosure tool for closing a deletion discussion as non-admin closure. The result was delete. So will the article be automatically deleted, or do I have to do other manual procedure? Will be thankful for advise. Drat8sub (talk) 07:20, 20 May 2023 (UTC)
Vandalism
Hi, May I know if you’re the administrator of Meryem Uzerli’s Wikipedia page. If so, I need to report a user who is violating the pages terms 105.66.4.2 (talk) 23:09, 18 May 2023 (UTC)
- Hi, administrators are not assigned to certain pages. Anyone administrator can look into the matter. What is the issue? ✗plicit 02:28, 19 May 2023 (UTC)
- I am writing to report some unauthorized changes that have been made on a Wikipedia page. Recently, a user named “ Timothytlewis” made changes to the page for a public personality “Meryem uzerli” without her consent. This last added personal information that should not be made public, and this is a violation of her privacy.
- I have already made some changes to remove the unauthorized information, but I am concerned that this IP user may continue to make changes. I would like to request that his IP address be blocked from making any further changes to the page. 105.67.7.144 (talk) 11:50, 21 May 2023 (UTC)
- I have hidden the revisions from public viewing, so the content is no longer visible to most readers in the "history" tab. Timothytlewis can not be blocked for a single offense, especially since it took place nearly a month ago. It was that account's sole edit, so they may not even return. For now, this is the most I can do. If the issue persists, please see WP:ASFAQ#The information in your article about me is wrong. How can I get it fixed? on other ways to address your concerns. ✗plicit 13:30, 21 May 2023 (UTC)
- Thank you ! 196.92.1.66 (talk) 10:34, 22 May 2023 (UTC)
- I have hidden the revisions from public viewing, so the content is no longer visible to most readers in the "history" tab. Timothytlewis can not be blocked for a single offense, especially since it took place nearly a month ago. It was that account's sole edit, so they may not even return. For now, this is the most I can do. If the issue persists, please see WP:ASFAQ#The information in your article about me is wrong. How can I get it fixed? on other ways to address your concerns. ✗plicit 13:30, 21 May 2023 (UTC)
dont delete my drafts
why did you delete my draft? 90.255.39.251 (talk) 16:51, 23 May 2023 (UTC)
Non-free license plate files deleted per FFD possibly reuploaded
Hi Explicit. Are File:NY excelsior plate.jpg and File:NY2007Plate.png the same files you deleted per two FFDs started on Wikipedia:Files for discussion/2023 April 17 or are they different files with the same name? I came across the files via Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2023 May 17#File:NY excelsior plate.jpg and File:NY2007Plate.png and I'm not seeing any consenus to restore. Are these eligible for deletion per WP:G4? -- Marchjuly (talk) 08:05, 23 May 2023 (UTC)
- @Marchjuly: Hi, thanks for bringing this to my attention. They were indeed reincarnations of the same images, so I have deleted them as G4. ✗plicit 12:25, 23 May 2023 (UTC)
- I've bought this up wp WP:DRN state your piece there as well as a re-opened discussion here. Shim119 (talk) 20:01, 23 May 2023 (UTC)
- User:Shim119 - DRN is not the forum to review a closure either at FFD or at DRV. DRV is the forum to review a closure at FFD, and there is no forum to review DRV closures. Your talk page, User talk:Shim119, is the place to request an unblock (although it might be wiser just to sit out the block). After the block is over, you can discuss copyright policy at Village pump. Robert McClenon (talk) 00:01, 24 May 2023 (UTC)
- I've bought this up wp WP:DRN state your piece there as well as a re-opened discussion here. Shim119 (talk) 20:01, 23 May 2023 (UTC)
User wants block review
User:Volkish Kurden is awaiting a block review. Could you please look into this? Dronebogus (talk) 01:08, 24 May 2023 (UTC)
- @Dronebogus: Unfortunately, I choose not to deal with unblock requests. This request can be made at WP:AN, but it should be noted that CAT:UNB is backlogged quite a bit. ✗plicit 01:21, 24 May 2023 (UTC)
The Bahamas Girl Guides Association
Could you please restore File:Bahamas Girl Guides Association.svg, and then this version of this page? Someone created an account and made one edit removing the image. Thanks. --evrik (talk) 03:47, 24 May 2023 (UTC)
- @Evrik: Done, file restored. ✗plicit 03:49, 24 May 2023 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Hewa Bora Airways destinations
Hi @Explicit, you've re-listed the above discussion to get more feedback and I agree with that relisting. The only thing I would note here is that the 2018 AN discussion regarding these articles said that the closer should take the 2018 RFC into account in any close. If there really are not any further !votes, the situation would not be the same as for a normal AFD where there was only one additional delete !vote on top of the nomination and the article had previously been kept in another AFD, since there is a consensus at VPP that these articles are not appropriate content. It should also be noted that this page was never nominated individually for deletion, but only as part of very large sets of 400+ articles in 2015. It would be wrong to allow whole categories of hundreds articles to become effectively inoculated against soft-deletion simply because someone raised a snow-closed AFD against all of them once eight years ago. This is especially the case when the specific article was not discussed in the bundled AFD at all.
Like I said I agree with this re-list, mostly I am saying this because, although my preference is for finding some way of dealing with this outside of AFD (not least to avoid over-loading AFD!), this is unlikely to be the last nomination in this area and I think most of them are going to see a small number of votes (especially because the AN discussion discouraged bundled deletions of all of the articles). If a snow-closed mass-nomination from 2015 means no soft-deletion for any of them, in spite of a later RFC saying they are not appropriate content, that is likely to become rather tedious. FOARP (talk) 08:39, 24 May 2023 (UTC)
Promo/sock accounts
Hi Explicit. I would take this to SPI, but it seems like such an open-and-shut case that it seems silly. Alpayberg2 and Alpayberg2023 are certainly a sock/master pair. Special:CentralAuth shows both were created on May 16 within an hour of each other.
Alpayberg2
- created Draft:Alpay Berg, User:Alpayberg2 and User:Alpayberg2/sandbox. You deleted the userpage and sandbox as U5, and Deb deleted the draft as G11/G12.
- removed the notice informing them that Draft:Alpay Berg was deleted as a copyvio.
- created the page User talk:Alpayberg2023/sandbox - deleted by Fastily as G8.
- recreated their userpage, again a copyvio - deleted by Fastily as U5.
Alpayberg2023
- created Talk:ALPAY BERG (with no article), which you deleted as G8.
- created User:Alpayberg2023/sandbox, another copyvio - deleted by Fastily as U5. As referenced above, Alpayberg2 created the talk page for this (by then deleted) sandbox.
It's pretty obvious these two account are the same person. I can take it to SPI if you prefer, but I think both have earned blocks. --Drm310 🍁 (talk) 21:55, 24 May 2023 (UTC)
- @Drm310: Hi, I've blocked both accounts and tagged them for sockpuppetry. Filing SPI reports in the future would help keep a paper trail on the user should they return with more accounts in the future. ✗plicit 01:37, 25 May 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks. Sometimes it's hard to know if filing at SPI will be met with annoyance. I forget exactly when, but I got lectured once about how costly SPIs are (there's even an essay somewhere, apparently). I was told that I shouldn't file reports for "minor" cases where just asking an admin would be faster and more efficient. --Drm310 🍁 (talk) 04:58, 25 May 2023 (UTC)
IP needs TPA revoked
See this edit by 174.20.89.23 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log). Reporting here instead of ANI to avoid drawing unnecessary attention. — SamX [talk · contribs] 06:14, 26 May 2023 (UTC)
- @SamX: Done. I've also hidden the revision of the last message they posted. ✗plicit 06:19, 26 May 2023 (UTC)
Early close on Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/DXNG-FM
Good day. I'm kinda concerned about your close here. It's only around 2 days since you relisted the discussion. It doesn't sit well with editors like me when they're closed a couple of days after it was relisted. Since I just got back from a WikiBreak, I wasn't given the chance to vote and share my input. Would you please consider reverting the closure and let the discussion sit until it reaches next week (May 31), for other editors including me to share my input about the article? ASTIG😎🙃 04:00, 26 May 2023 (UTC)
- @Superastig: Per WP:RELIST, "A relisted discussion may be closed once consensus is determined without necessarily waiting a further seven days." The debate was open for nine days. Procedurally, this was not an early closure, nor is there any requirement to wait a full seven days after relisting to close the discussion. ✗plicit 06:04, 26 May 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks for clarifying. I'm just disappointed that I wasn't given the chance to vote and share my input, especially that I was away for a few days. If that's the case, I can't help but respect your decision. ASTIG😎🙃 07:21, 26 May 2023 (UTC)
Haven Madison
Why delete the talk page with factual information that should have been the article page for Haven Madison. the only reason it was there is because theres no way to actually create the article page, which is what someone should have done when they saw it Steverichards06 (talk) 16:30, 25 May 2023 (UTC)
- @Steverichards06: As the deletion summary states, you created a talk page for an article that doesn't exist. It was eligible for speedy deletion in accordance with WP:CSD#G8. You may want to try writing a draft first using the articles for creation process. ✗plicit 03:37, 26 May 2023 (UTC)
- yeah, i've tried that, it just brings me to some nonsensical "sandbox" thing which ive done multiple times & theres no way to bypass it Steverichards06 (talk) 13:39, 26 May 2023 (UTC)
- @Steverichards06: I have moved the content to Draft:Haven Madison, where you can continue working on it. Please make sure to read over the biographies of living persons policy and notability guideline for people before submitting your work. ✗plicit 13:45, 26 May 2023 (UTC)
- thank you, thats all i wanted, i'll be working on it more later today or tomorrow, whenever i get a chance Steverichards06 (talk) 14:18, 26 May 2023 (UTC)
- @Steverichards06: I have moved the content to Draft:Haven Madison, where you can continue working on it. Please make sure to read over the biographies of living persons policy and notability guideline for people before submitting your work. ✗plicit 13:45, 26 May 2023 (UTC)
- yeah, i've tried that, it just brings me to some nonsensical "sandbox" thing which ive done multiple times & theres no way to bypass it Steverichards06 (talk) 13:39, 26 May 2023 (UTC)
Deletion review for Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Syrian Air destinations
An editor has asked for a deletion review of Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Syrian Air destinations. Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review. SurferSquall (talk) 22:52, 26 May 2023 (UTC)
Deletion : John Kennedy College
Dear Admin, John Kennedy College is one of the most prominent secondary school in Mauritius. You've deleted the page without proper consultation and lack of facts. Based upon your fictions, I request a restoration of the John Kennedy College page. As a member of it's alumni, it feels bad to know that a National Academy like this has been removed on Wikipedia. Please do the necessary. 102.114.66.88 (talk) 22:11, 26 May 2023 (UTC)
- Sorry, but the page was deleted as a result of the deletion discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/John Kennedy College nearly a year and a half ago. If you believe that you are able to address the issues raised during the deletion debate, you are free to work on a draft and submit your work through the articles for creation process. ✗plicit 23:37, 26 May 2023 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Syrian Air destinations
Hi @Explicit, couldn't you just re-open the discussion and I'll tag List of XiamenAir destinations? Seems very WP:BURO to go through another AFD when there's already a very clear consensus against this article and the only thing that was missing was the template. FOARP (talk) 16:09, 26 May 2023 (UTC)
- @FOARP: Well, no, because knowing DRV, the page would have been overturned at DRV for the very reason of not being tagged for deletion. I've seen it far too often to go down that path. The point is moot, though. The result of the AFD is under review, so List of XiamenAir destinations may as well be nominated separately now. ✗plicit 23:37, 26 May 2023 (UTC)
- Ok. Yeah, everything get DRV’ed nowadays apparently. FOARP (talk) 04:56, 27 May 2023 (UTC)
- PS - Cunard redirected the XiamenAir list of destinations so no need for anything. FOARP (talk) 08:59, 27 May 2023 (UTC)
- @FOARP: Thanks for the heads up. Since there is some content in the "Destinations" section, this seems like an okay alternative. ✗plicit 10:07, 27 May 2023 (UTC)
- PS - Cunard redirected the XiamenAir list of destinations so no need for anything. FOARP (talk) 08:59, 27 May 2023 (UTC)
- Ok. Yeah, everything get DRV’ed nowadays apparently. FOARP (talk) 04:56, 27 May 2023 (UTC)
Crichy Crich
Good day! Can you please elaborate on why you deleted "Crichy Crich"? --Jax 0677 (talk) 22:51, 25 May 2023 (UTC)
- @Jax 0677: Hi, the consensus at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 May 16#Crichy Crich was pretty straight-forward. You stated that the redirect was warranted because Crichy Crich performed on "Army to Your Party", and three others felt differently. What is the issue with the closure exactly? ✗plicit 03:37, 26 May 2023 (UTC)
- Reply - There was no better target mentioned. However, Crich is not a bad target either. --Jax 0677 (talk) 17:59, 27 May 2023 (UTC)
- @Jax 0677: I could have not have possibly reached the conclusion to close the discussion as "redirect to Crich (disambiguation)" based on the discussion. This was never an option provided by any of the participants. ✗plicit 23:28, 27 May 2023 (UTC)
Hi, you deleted this file, stating that it was available on Commons. However, it was deleted there, too, so now the image is gone from the article. I'm no too familiar with files moving to/from Commons and hope you can fix this. Thanks! --Randykitty (talk) 07:47, 28 May 2023 (UTC)
- @Randykitty: Hi, thanks for letting me know about this. I'll contact the deleting administrator there and hope to get the file restored soon. ✗plicit 10:47, 28 May 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks! --Randykitty (talk) 11:11, 28 May 2023 (UTC)
Requested move at Talk:Ayase (music producer)
This is a weird situation. There was a requested move open, attempting to move the article from Ayase (producer) to its current title; I requested a history merge here during the RM, which I think you performed, as the RM opener got blocked as a suspected sock by you and you deleted and recreated the (producer) article.
My question here is what should be done about the RM. I don't know if you intended to close it as moved, or what, but the article is now at the proposed title from the RM. With the discussion also being started by a sock, I'm totally lost as to how to close this discussion. Skarmory (talk • contribs) 03:50, 31 May 2023 (UTC)
- @Skarmory: The sock's actions leading up to the move request don't make much sense either. The article was originally at Ayase (producer), which they moved to Ayase (music producer). Then, they redirected Ayase (music producer) to Ayase (producer) after performing a cut-and-paste move. The move request was made after that, seemingly to have the original history of the article deleted in favor of their own creation. Closing the discussion at moot would probably suffice, to be honest. ✗plicit 04:04, 31 May 2023 (UTC)
- It looks like they requested the move, then moved the article in the middle of the RM, then tried to revert it with a cut-and-paste move... which still doesn't make much sense. I'll procedurally close it, there's a bunch of nonsense going on here that's not worth figuring out over starting a new RM if anyone has issues. Skarmory (talk • contribs) 05:58, 31 May 2023 (UTC)
File:Emilia Fester.jpg
Hi Explicit. Would you mind taking a look at File:Emilia Fester.jpg. If I remember correctly, it's the same as File:Emilia Fester official.jpg which you deleted on May 14, 2023, per F7. The uploader is different so it could just be a coincidence, but not sure. -- Marchjuly (talk) 05:43, 2 June 2023 (UTC)
- @Marchjuly: Hi, you're correct. It's the same image uploaded by a different user. ✗plicit 06:45, 2 June 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks for checking. It's likely going to end up deleted again in a few days so it probably doesn't matter who uploaded it I guess. -- Marchjuly (talk) 06:53, 2 June 2023 (UTC)
Could you please let me have a look at this deleted page and its history? I seem to have created it, presumably for good reason at the time. I've now made hatnotes at Ambrose Madden and Ambrose O'Madden and fixed a link from Bishop_of_Kilmacduagh#Roman_Catholic_succession but would like to see what happened. As there was only a minute between the CSD notice on my talk page and its disapearance (OK, that's how "Speedy" works!), I didn't get a chance to have a look into it. Thanks. PamD 15:04, 4 June 2023 (UTC)
- @PamD: There were three entries on the page, which were deleted by PROD: Ambrose Madden (chief), Ambrose Madden (II), and Ambrose Madden (III). ✗plicit 15:11, 4 June 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks: non-notable Irish chiefs I suppose. Happy to leave it at that. PamD 16:38, 4 June 2023 (UTC)
Request for history merges
Hi, can you please history merge 2023 Internationaux de Strasbourg – Singles and Draft:2023 Internationaux de Strasbourg – Singles, 2023 Internationaux de Strasbourg – Doubles and Draft:2023 Internationaux de Strasbourg – Doubles, 2023 Grand Prix SAR La Princesse Lalla Meryem – Singles and Draft:2023 Grand Prix SAR La Princesse Lalla Meryem – Singles, and 2023 Grand Prix SAR La Princesse Lalla Meryem – Doubles and Draft:2023 Grand Prix SAR La Princesse Lalla Meryem – Doubles since there were some creations over draft by an editor, and no admins noticed the "history merge" tag. Thanks! Timothytyy (talk) 23:59, 23 May 2023 (UTC)
- @Timothytyy: Done, four history merges completed. ✗plicit 00:07, 24 May 2023 (UTC)
- Please help me history merge 2023 French Open – Women's doubles and Draft:2023 French Open – Women's doubles too. Thanks a lot! Timothytyy (talk) 13:10, 28 May 2023 (UTC)
- @Timothytyy: Done. ✗plicit 13:34, 28 May 2023 (UTC)
- Also for Gui Haichao and Draft:Gui Haichao? Thanks! Timothytyy (talk) 05:54, 30 May 2023 (UTC)
- @Timothytyy: Done. ✗plicit 06:29, 30 May 2023 (UTC)
- Also for 2023 French Open – Girls' singles and Draft:2023 French Open – Girls' singles? Thanks! Timothytyy (talk) 09:34, 5 June 2023 (UTC)
- @Timothytyy: Done. ✗plicit 06:29, 30 May 2023 (UTC)
- Also for Gui Haichao and Draft:Gui Haichao? Thanks! Timothytyy (talk) 05:54, 30 May 2023 (UTC)
- @Timothytyy: Done. ✗plicit 13:34, 28 May 2023 (UTC)
- Please help me history merge 2023 French Open – Women's doubles and Draft:2023 French Open – Women's doubles too. Thanks a lot! Timothytyy (talk) 13:10, 28 May 2023 (UTC)
Your close on List of American Thomas & Friends video releases
Hello, you closed List of American Thomas & Friends video releases as delete, however the article is still a live article. Could you delete it please? Heart (talk) 13:05, 5 June 2023 (UTC)
- @HeartGlow30797: Hi, I am unable to delete the page because it has over 5,000 revisions. This requires deletion by a steward. I have made a request for deletion over at Meta. ✗plicit 13:11, 5 June 2023 (UTC)
- Ah, okay, thanks. Heart (talk) 13:13, 5 June 2023 (UTC)
Man
Explicit, I was deleting those categories. Why did you butt in and take things over? You do this all of the time. It's unbelievably aggravating to be working on a project and have another editor swoop in and take over. You can't let me just work on something without inserting yourself into the process. You're the "Deleteion King" isn't that enough? Maddening. Liz Read! Talk! 04:04, 6 June 2023 (UTC)
- @Liz: Something tells me you're upset. ✗plicit 04:41, 6 June 2023 (UTC)
Convention relating to the International Status of Refugees
I just did a little clean-up of the lede to Convention Relating to the Status of Refugees. I noticed that in the next section "History" there is a broken link Convention relating to the International Status of Refugees - a page which you apparently deleted as a "Redirect to deleted page." This relates to a 1933 League of Nations treaty (defunct) and archived by the UN here:
And, cited by the International Committee of the Red Cross here:
- On the history of the international protection of refugees
https://international-review.icrc.org/sites/default/files/S1560775500119285a.pdf
I searched on WP for "Convention on International Status of Refugees" but found nothing...
I know that the League of Nations is long dead, but I feel that there should be a page discussing this League of Nations treaty, which is a precursor of the UN one.
Whatever happened to Convention relating to the International Status of Refugees or, rather, whatever page it apparenly redirected to?
I am an inclusionist and feel that whatever was there should be accessible as a critical part of the historical web of knowledge on the matter of refugees - a hot topic as the issue of climate refugees is coming to the fore.
Comments or suggestions?
Enquire (talk) 02:36, 7 June 2023 (UTC)
- @Enquire: Hi, the target page was Convention Relating to the International Status of Refugees, which was deleted in accordance with WP:CSD#G5 as a page created by Armduino, a sockpuppet of a blocked user. Any user is free to recreate the page if they see it fit. ✗plicit 03:40, 7 June 2023 (UTC)
Iran Aseman Airlines Destinations
Dear user, I wanted to ask you on the reasoning behind you deleting the page of List of Iran Aseman Airlines destinations which occured on May 26th. The page was a very helpful resource regarding the destinations of the airline and used valid citations. I was curious on why this page was deleted and I would appreciate if you could clarify that please. Thank you. Chopin2423 (talk) 04:57, 7 June 2023 (UTC)
- @Chopin2423: Hi, as the deletion summary states, this page was deleted as a result of the deletion discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Iran Aseman Airlines destinations. It was part of a larger effort to have similar articles deleted (see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Syrian Air destinations and the review that upheld these deletions). ✗plicit 07:16, 7 June 2023 (UTC)
- Thank you for your response and your explanation. It makes a lot more sense now. Chopin2423 (talk) 22:29, 7 June 2023 (UTC)
Request
When you delete one of my drafts, can you please leave a note of it on my talk page. I follow a lot of pages, so I might not always notice if one of my drafts has been deleted. 𝕱𝖎𝖈𝖆𝖎𝖆 (talk) 06:12, 8 June 2023 (UTC)
Conation
Hello. ICYMI, Conation is back. Might need to go to AFD. Thanks. 2A00:23EE:2678:4134:D495:A8FF:FE47:A2EE (talk) 12:43, 8 June 2023 (UTC)
Restore
Hi, Explicit. Please restore this redirects: Deobandi hadith books, Deobandi hadith literature, Deobandi hadith publications. Thanks.–MinisterOfReligion (Talk) 05:05, 9 June 2023 (UTC)
- @Owais Al Qarni: Done, all three redirects restored. ✗plicit 07:03, 9 June 2023 (UTC)
Hi
Hi do you mind deleting:UWC Heavyweight Championship, UWC Tag Team Championship, UWC United States Championship, List of UWC Championships because main page of article was deleted through Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/United Wrestling Coalition.. As well ACW American Joshi Championship because Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Anarchy Championship Wrestling (2nd nomination)? DarkHorseMayhem (talk) 14:15, 10 June 2023 (UTC)
- @Explicit@Explicit Sorry? DarkHorseMayhem (talk) 02:51, 11 June 2023 (UTC)
@DarkHorseMayhem: Hi, these pages can not be deleted outright. You are free to nominate them for deletion through the WP:PROD process. ✗plicit 05:42, 11 June 2023 (UTC)
- @Explicit Okay. But do you mind deleting: Hassan Yousefi because user created despite page being moved to draft:Draft:Hassan Yousefi and both draft and article cant exist, article is also whole messy and doesnt pass GNG, DarkHorseMayhem (talk) 13:53, 11 June 2023 (UTC)
@DarkHorseMayhem: There is no policy that would support immediately deleting the recreated page. It essentially becomes an objection to draftificiation. This should be addressed using different processes as stated in the aforementioned link. ✗plicit 14:05, 11 June 2023 (UTC)
- So i can create pages too despite them being moved to draft? Espcially since there is two pages now and we dont need duplicates. DarkHorseMayhem (talk) 14:07, 11 June 2023 (UTC)
@DarkHorseMayhem: I have merged the histories of the draft and article, so there is now a single page about the subject. That is the most policy allows me to do. You are free to nominate them for deletion, as I have stated above. ✗plicit 14:15, 11 June 2023 (UTC)
Restoration request
List of Criterion Collection releases was deleted for lack of a secondary source and being a sales page if I understand correctly, however a list that is mostly out of print titles and laserdiscs to be called a sales listing seems absurd. Surely a 3rd party citation needs added and the lists merged is all? Thank. Realthick (talk) 21:07, 11 June 2023 (UTC)
- @Realthick: Hi, List of Criterion Collection releases was deleted as a result of Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Criterion Collection releases (2nd nomination) on the basis of Wikipedia not being a directory/catalog. As this page was deleted through a deletion debate, I can not unilaterally restore it upon request. There was a suggestion to merge the content, but consensus determined that it should simply be deleted. ✗plicit 23:33, 11 June 2023 (UTC)
Hi
Hi there sorry to bother you again but do you mind closing:Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bryan Battle it's been 7 days already? DarkHorseMayhem (talk) 00:28, 12 June 2023 (UTC)
Draft:Armen Petrosyan (fighter)
That page was made by Heinz so its okay to delete i just moved contet from there to mainspace its about totally diffrent person:https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tresean_Gore&action=history DarkHorseMayhem (talk) 12:17, 13 June 2023 (UTC)
- @DarkHorseMayhem: Ah, I see now. Thanks for clarifying. ✗plicit 12:19, 13 June 2023 (UTC)
Author req
@Explicit Hi do you mind deleting: User:DarkHorseMayhem/twinkleoptions.js ? DarkHorseMayhem (talk) 14:36, 15 June 2023 (UTC)
Close and delete
Pls close and delete: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Tobi Mohammed and Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Block Party Series. DarkHorseMayhem (talk) 23:22, 16 June 2023 (UTC)
- @DarkHorseMayhem: I've closed the first, but the second still needs more time. Please just wait patiently until someone gets around to closing deletion debates instead of requesting them right after !voting. ✗plicit 23:26, 16 June 2023 (UTC)
- Oh yeah i just saw mb Explicit. DarkHorseMayhem (talk) 23:27, 16 June 2023 (UTC)
Hi Explicit. What's the best way to deal with File:Brazil women's national football team logo.png now that File:Brazil National Football Team (no stars).svg has been kept by Commons? This might also affect File:Brazilian Football Confederation logo.svg since the addition of the stars probably isn't enough for copyright protection in and of itself. The badge logo has been discussed multiple times at FFD and at WT:NFCC and sometimes those discussions got a bit heated. It would be great if that could be avoid this time around. -- Marchjuly (talk) 10:54, 17 June 2023 (UTC)
- @Marchjuly: Hi, since the result on Commons determined that File:Brazil National Football Team (no stars).svg does not possess the level of creativity required to warrant copyright protection, then the two non-free files can safely be re-licensed to {{PD-textlogo}} as well, citing the discussion in the edit summary for other users to refer to. The files can then be transferred to Commons. ✗plicit 11:13, 17 June 2023 (UTC)
Thanks for deletion
Thanks for deleting https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Eleanor_Williams_(criminal) - I published it before I published the main page. I hope you will provide help and advice when I publish the first draft. Thanks Londondare (talk) Londondare (talk) 21:31, 21 June 2023 (UTC)
Deleted category recreated
I noticed that the Category:National anthem compositions by key and many of its subcategories, which were proposed by User:Mangoe at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 June 9#Category:National anthem compositions by key and which you closed as "delete", have now been recreated by User:SpinnerLaserzthe2nd. What's to be done? -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 00:35, 23 June 2023 (UTC)
- I tried to find the key of anthem that is establish based on multiple sources especially government ones. If we could somehow reorganize it based on the sheet that is provided by the government. I created these categories because the patriotic songs were one of many musical genres, I had added these articles based on sources I could find. The Belarusian anthem is usually been played with the F major and the website of the government of Belarus has proved it. SpinnerLaserzthe2nd (talk) 00:42, 23 June 2023 (UTC)
- a) You didn't provide any sources. b) If governments publish a score, it doesn't mean it was composed that way, nor that is always performed that way. c) The key of an anthem is not defining. But I see that you now marked those categories as speedy deletes, so the matters seems to be resolved. -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 01:55, 23 June 2023 (UTC)
- Are you telling this because you studied and had experience with music? If so, why is the key of an anthem is not defining and why it doesn't mean it was composed that way, nor that is always performed that way even if governments publish scores. I tried to look for any sources as possibly as I can. SpinnerLaserzthe2nd (talk) 02:01, 23 June 2023 (UTC)
- I am a choral musician, and I'm telling you that the key is completely incidental. We went through this in the deletion discussion, and we shouldn't have to go over it again. Mangoe (talk) 03:55, 23 June 2023 (UTC)
- So, keys may vary depending on the singer or band. SpinnerLaserzthe2nd (talk) 06:04, 23 June 2023 (UTC)
- I am a choral musician, and I'm telling you that the key is completely incidental. We went through this in the deletion discussion, and we shouldn't have to go over it again. Mangoe (talk) 03:55, 23 June 2023 (UTC)
- Are you telling this because you studied and had experience with music? If so, why is the key of an anthem is not defining and why it doesn't mean it was composed that way, nor that is always performed that way even if governments publish scores. I tried to look for any sources as possibly as I can. SpinnerLaserzthe2nd (talk) 02:01, 23 June 2023 (UTC)
- a) You didn't provide any sources. b) If governments publish a score, it doesn't mean it was composed that way, nor that is always performed that way. c) The key of an anthem is not defining. But I see that you now marked those categories as speedy deletes, so the matters seems to be resolved. -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 01:55, 23 June 2023 (UTC)
License tagging for File:Uhmc logo.png
@Explicit: The help text says that I need to contact user(s) who performed the deletion of the page.
The correct licensing for this image is: PD-UA-exempt This is a logo of the Ukrainian government organisation. PD-UA-exempt (d) specifically covers this issue:
(d) State symbols of Ukraine, government awards; symbols and signs of government authorities, the Armed Forces of Ukraine and other military formations; symbols of territorial communities; symbols and signs of enterprises, institutions and organizations; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:PD-UA-exempt
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:Uhmc_logo.png&action=edit&redlink=1
Looking forward to your reply. Sinestro (talk) 08:32, 23 June 2023 (UTC)
- @Sinestro: Thanks for clarifying the license, this information was not provided when the image was uploaded. I have restored the file and added the above license. ✗plicit 09:15, 23 June 2023 (UTC)
- Sorry, I didn't noticed the missing license at first. Thank you for restoring the page. Sinestro (talk) 09:29, 23 June 2023 (UTC)
Recent RFD close
Hello,
Sorry, this was my bad as I thought I voted, but it seems I didn't actually vote when I went back to check the result. (Probably one of those "half-written in a lost tab that I never clicked save") deals. Would it have mattered in Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2023_June_15#50_redirects_from_fictional_characters to your close if there had been an additional keep vote? There's no reason to delete these redirects IMO, they're harmless history. Additionally, at minimum, Lazlo En Kuldes should probably be brought back - yes, the name doesn't appear in Suikoden IV#Story, but that's because that's the psuedo-"canon" name of the hero, whose name is set by the player. It's certainly a relevant, "it's useful" redirect IMO. (The other characters I also think should be kept, but I'll admit they're a lot less important.) Pinging User:LaundryPizza03 as nominator as well. SnowFire (talk) 19:17, 23 June 2023 (UTC)
- @SnowFire: Hm, well there has been a recent emerging consensus at RFD which supports deleting redirects of trivial fictional characters if the targets don't mention them. Could it be possible to produce sourced mentions at the target? ✗plicit 13:58, 24 June 2023 (UTC)
Leftovers
For the salted page Aniyan Midhun, there are leftovers created by the sock, Aniyan MIdhun and Draft:Aniyan MIdhun, with an "I" that can bypass the procedures. The Doom Patrol (talk) 06:28, 24 June 2023 (UTC)
- @The Doom Patrol: I have deleted both in accordance with WP:CSD#G5. ✗plicit 13:58, 24 June 2023 (UTC)
Re: deletion of 2023 in AI
Hello,
You were the deleting editor for this deletion. Should 2023 in AI be restored (deletion log) as a redirect to Timeline_of_computing_2020–present#AI_software, which is in a section for 2023? Its deletion has broken the hatnote in Timeline_of_artificial_intelligence#2020s, which I noticed while browsing a broken hatnotes category. The "see also" hatnote doesn't seem to want to play ball with a target which is a section within an article, so a redirect seems to be the way to do it. The deletion discussion seemed to revolve around content, which should be resolved by the redirect to the article which seems to have a little community of editors looking after it. Philh-591 (talk) 13:31, 24 June 2023 (UTC)
- @Philh-591: Hi, I have simply removed the red-linked hatnote. WP:XFDcloser isn't capable of handling links produced by templates, so they require manual editing. I try to remove such instances, but somehow missed this one. ✗plicit 13:58, 24 June 2023 (UTC)
- OK. I'll leave it to Wikipedia:WikiProject Computing editors to figure out what links they want between those pages. Philh-591 (talk) 14:23, 24 June 2023 (UTC)
Deletion of Tamil serial pages
Hello, I want the reason why are u keeping on deleting Tamil serial wiki pages.. i demand an explanation 223.187.119.210 (talk) 06:40, 25 June 2023 (UTC)
- Hi, can you please point to which pages you're referring to? ✗plicit 06:41, 25 June 2023 (UTC)
Deletion of article by https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Explicit
Just because you do not understand the context of an article while being edited does not mean that you should delete it. Tomcat1020 (talk) 13:57, 25 June 2023 (UTC)
Sockpuppetry case of concern
Since you are familiar with the deleted page Ror Dynasty on Wikipedia. Anuj Choudhary Ror and Rudradaman127 (talk) are making similar disruptive edits on Aror, are probably the same. Kindly acknowledge the issue. Nirmohiji (talk) 06:25, 27 June 2023 (UTC)
Sockpuppetry: Neeraj Dheeraj Singh
Hi Explicit. User:Rohit Gandhi 123 is a sockpuppet of User:Neeraj Dheeraj Singh and has been blocked on Simple Wikipedia and Telugu Wikipedia. Fancy Refrigerator (talk) 03:58, 28 June 2023 (UTC)
- @Fancy Refrigerator: Hi, can you point to an SPI report or some other form of evidence that connects the two accounts? ✗plicit 04:49, 28 June 2023 (UTC)
- Hi. An account by the username MarkXBeen created the page simple:Akshat Tyagi on Simple Wikipedia, the same page Rohit Gandhi 123 created here on English Wikipedia. MarkXBeen was connected to a globally locked sockpuppet of Neeraj Dheeraj Singh at simple:Wikipedia:Requests for checkuser#Alisa Genevieve earlier this month. Fancy Refrigerator (talk) 05:04, 28 June 2023 (UTC)
- Another sockpuppet in that SPI report, User:Alen Silva, created a page titled simple:Susbio at Simple Wikipedia. Rohit Gandhi 123 created the same page here at Draft:Susbio. Fancy Refrigerator (talk) 05:20, 28 June 2023 (UTC)
- @Fancy Refrigerator: Thanks, that clears things up. I have deleted Rohit Gandhi 123's creations and blocked and/or tagged the accounts for sockpuppetry. ✗plicit 06:36, 28 June 2023 (UTC)
- Another sockpuppet in that SPI report, User:Alen Silva, created a page titled simple:Susbio at Simple Wikipedia. Rohit Gandhi 123 created the same page here at Draft:Susbio. Fancy Refrigerator (talk) 05:20, 28 June 2023 (UTC)
- Hi. An account by the username MarkXBeen created the page simple:Akshat Tyagi on Simple Wikipedia, the same page Rohit Gandhi 123 created here on English Wikipedia. MarkXBeen was connected to a globally locked sockpuppet of Neeraj Dheeraj Singh at simple:Wikipedia:Requests for checkuser#Alisa Genevieve earlier this month. Fancy Refrigerator (talk) 05:04, 28 June 2023 (UTC)
Undeletion request
Hey! Violence against Muslims in India seems to have been incorrectly deleted under WP:G8 due to a no-redirect move to correct a typo (see this and this), meaning the subpages of the talk page (Archive 1, 2, and 3 plus a GA1) were also deleted later (by you). Coould these be undeleted? Thanks. Aidan9382 (talk) 09:56, 21 June 2023 (UTC)
- @Aidan9382: Hi, thanks for pointing this out to me. Violence against Muslims in India was incorrectly deleted by Liz when she should have looked at both the page history of the redirect and the redirect target, but she never does any due diligence and often creates a mess. As a result, the subpages were listed at Wikipedia:Database reports/Orphaned talk subpages which led me to believe that the red-linked Violence against Muslims in India redirect at the time was deleted as G8 due to its target being deleted by another deletion process, like PROD or AFD. I have restored the subpages now. ✗plicit 12:12, 21 June 2023 (UTC)
- Gee, thanks, finding someone else to blame. Liz Read! Talk! 07:59, 28 June 2023 (UTC)
File:Head of the Lakes Small.jpg
Hi Explicit. Would you mind checking File:Head of the Lakes Small.jpg? I believe it's the same file as File:Head of the Lakes - Copyrighted Image.jpg and it was uploaded by the same upoader. The uploader apparently wants to use the book cover file in Draft:Anthony Bukoski, but it keeps getting removed per NFCC#9. The uploader seems to have mistaken the first instance of file's removal as meaning that it had been deleted; so, they reuploaded it again. The reupload has also been tagged for speedy deletion per F4 and F5, so it will also most likely end up being deleted in a few days. Assuming that the reupload needs to be treated as non-free, I can't see any justification for its non-free use per WP:NFC#cite_note-3 even if NFCC#9 wasn't an issue. I could add a non-free license to it, but the file will still have the F5 issue. Is it even worth boldly adding a non-free license to the reupload of the book cover photo at this point? -- Marchjuly (talk) 00:23, 29 June 2023 (UTC)
- @Marchjuly: Hi, this is the same image as before. I don't think it's worth making the effort to tag the file as non-free as it will be deleted regardless. Even if the draft is moved into mainspace, the use of this cover would violate WP:NFCC#8 anyway. ✗plicit 00:39, 29 June 2023 (UTC)
- Fair enough, and thanks for checking. -- Marchjuly (talk) 02:57, 29 June 2023 (UTC)
Deletion of Gaylor article
Good afternoon (or whatever time of day it is where you are), Explicit!
I wanted to inquire about the deletion of my article Gaylor. The discussion of which can be found at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Gaylors
I totally understand why the final action was to delete the article because of the consensus, however, I don’t feel as though the article was judged fairly. As User:Hameltion pointed out, “This topic – perhaps the article should be renamed Gaylor (fan theory) – is notable, widely reported on in reliable sources: i-D(2019), Gawker 1 2 (it was reliable 2021–23), Rolling Stone, Sydney Morning Herald, Salon, etc. Arguments that a fan theory is speculative/gossipy are separate from whether it has been covered in reliable sources. Addressing some comments here, WP:RUMOR (AKA WP:CRYSTAL) is about unverifiable predictions and original research, not notable rumors; WP:NOTGOSSIP is about gossip magazine–style minutiae, not the notability of a gossipy, fan fiction–adjacent (1 2) theory; and WP:FANCRUFT is not the kind of essay that can be namechecked without explaining how a relevant guideline supports that label.”
What I find frustrating is how much focus was put on the validity of the theory, itself, rather than the notability of the subject, which, unless I am missing something, seems very present. An example is that I don’t personally believe in the validity of Modern flat Earth beliefs, but I also see the importance of including them and the culture around them in Wikipedia. I am concerned that some bias, especially given how vehemently many Swift fans believe in her having a heterosexual narrative, was present in the voting.
I also agree with the point of renaming the article Gaylor (fan theory) to help people understand the article better.
lastly, I want to acknowledge I was banned last week for trying to vote stack and using a sock puppet account to do this. It was not okay and I was corrected immediately. I was overcome by a bit of desperation in the moment feeling like this article was not going to be given a fair chance, so I played unfairly. I think this really damaged my case because it broke rapport with other wikipedians, as well as limited my ability to be more actively involved in the discussion.
Thank you for your time and assistance in reviewing all of this.
Gratefully, Elttaruuu Elttaruuu (talk) 19:36, 29 June 2023 (UTC)
- I also think it needs a touch of clean up to make sure that every paragraph explicitly relates back to Gaylors and their theories. Elttaruuu (talk) 19:51, 29 June 2023 (UTC)
@Elttaruuu: Hi, I closed this discussion as "delete" for a few reasons, the most prominent being WP:NOTGOSSIP. The participants decided that the article's content was not about the segment of Swift fans who believe she is queer, but a collection of speculative theories regarding her sexual orientation. As a result, they determined that the Gaylors as a topic has not received the significant coverage required to establish notability and justify the existence of its own article. While there were mentions of handling the article some other way, consensus clearly favored deletion in this case. You are free to create a redirect from Gaylors if you feel that this could serve as a valuable search term to Cultural impact of Taylor Swift. ✗plicit 12:55, 30 June 2023 (UTC)
- Sounds good! Am I allowed to submit to AFC if I restructure the article with that feedback? Elttaruuu (talk) 14:33, 30 June 2023 (UTC)
@Elttaruuu: Yes, of course. ✗plicit 14:37, 30 June 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks for your assistance and for clarifying reasoning! Elttaruuu (talk) 17:04, 30 June 2023 (UTC)
Undeleting and using non-free image File:Greatcentralgazette.org, 16 May 2023.png
Hello, Explicit, and hope your month has gone well. Would it be possible to restore File:Greatcentralgazette.org, 16 May 2023.png, so that it can be used in Great Central Gazette, which just passed AfC? If you need more info, please feel free to let me know. Thank you! Rotideypoc41352 (talk · contribs) 01:49, 1 July 2023 (UTC)
- @Rotideypoc41352: Hi, I have restored the file. However, it requires a fair use rationale. Please make sure to add one to avoid it being deleted again. ✗plicit 13:24, 1 July 2023 (UTC)
Hello - would you mind restoring this article which was deleted as a creation of a banned user? The subject is definitely notable - I'm not sure what state the article was in but at the very least I would redirect to Australia–Russia relations. ITBF (talk) 11:05, 2 July 2023 (UTC)
- @ITBF: Hi, a copy of the article can be found here. You are free to recreate if you see it fit. ✗plicit 11:37, 2 July 2023 (UTC)
- Can you please restore it so the attribution history is included? ITBF (talk) 11:58, 2 July 2023 (UTC)
Declan Sheehan
Can I please have the deleted article sent to me so that I can work on the professional rugby league footballer article.Fleets (talk) 08:27, 3 July 2023 (UTC)
- @Fleets: There are two subjects in this page history, one born in 1998 and the other in 1962. Which is the desired subject? ✗plicit 13:14, 3 July 2023 (UTC)
Kharkivska Square
When on occasion we still userfy material, we move it into user space. Moving an article from NS0 to NS3, as was the case with the inexperienced user NortonAngo (talk · contribs · logs) moving Kharkivska Square to User talk:AlexanderVolkov123/Kharkivska Square, the R2 should not have been deleted, the redirect should have been investigated. I have moved the article back. Sam Sailor 21:54, 3 July 2023 (UTC)
FYI, there's no soft delete at RfD. 1–0 gets closed as regular delete. -- Tamzin[cetacean needed] (she|they|xe) 17:37, 1 July 2023 (UTC)
- Likewise Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 June 26 § British NVC Community M23 Juncus subnodulosus-Cirsium palustre fen-meadow. It's not the biggest deal in the world, but does lead to editors being incorrectly referred to REFUND for something that's not actually in REFUND's scope. -- Tamzin[cetacean needed] (she|they|xe) 01:48, 4 July 2023 (UTC)
- @Tamzin: I'm not sure how you have come to that conclusion. WP:DRV has proven several times that pages deleted as a result of deletion debates without any comments are generally restored up a good-faith request. I brought this issue up at Wikipedia talk:Deletion process/Archive 13#Application of WP:SOFTDELETE beyond AFD two years ago and the comments there support that position. ✗plicit 02:30, 4 July 2023 (UTC)
- Yes, I read that discussion at the time. As you acknowledged in starting it, other admins challenged your view that "soft delete" is an appropriate outcome outside of AfD. I don't see how the discussion clarified that it is. Two editors agreed with you, one reiterated his disagreement in the context of TfD, and one said it's sometimes used at RfD (which is only partly true: almost all usage has been by three admins, and you and he are two of them; you're the only one actively doing so). That is not a consensus for changing policy, and accordingly no change was made to policy. I, for one, see a pretty strong downside to soft deletes at RfD, namely that they threaten to mislead people about the established rule that a 1–0 outcome at RfD is treated as consensus to delete, and generally import some of the seriousness of AfD to what is usually a lower-stakes venue. They also don't make sense in the context of redirects given that, if consensus has changed, someone can just recreate a redirect from scratch. If you wish to add soft deletion to the RfD procedures, you're welcome to start an RfC, but you should not be closing RfDs that way when the RfD community has historically shown a preference for a different approach. -- Tamzin[cetacean needed] (she|they|xe) 03:10, 4 July 2023 (UTC)
- @Tamzin: How odd of you describe it as "not the biggest deal in the world", then proceeding to treat like the biggest deal in the world. What's even more concerning is your belief that a single editor possesses the power to dictate consensus without any outside opinions from the community. And that suggestion of yours to recreate of a redirect that would, by your understanding of consensus, be subject to speedy deletion as WP:CSD#G4? Pitfalls at every turn. The use of soft deletion has been the norm since at least 2017. Who is or isn't actively doing so is irrelevant to established practice. So, no, I have no reason to make any changes to how I close RFDs. ✗plicit 03:36, 4 July 2023 (UTC)
- Is this the tone you normally take with people who say you've made admin actions outside of policy, Explicit? You're acting in, at best, a gray area without consensus, and I'm saying, as an editor in good standing, that I don't think you should be doing that. The correct next step is to get consensus (i.e. get those
outside opinions from the community
), not lash out at the person holding you accountable. -- Tamzin[cetacean needed] (she|they|xe) 03:47, 4 July 2023 (UTC)- @Tamzin: The consensus to close RFDs as "soft delete" has existed for, at minimum, six years. You simply have an issue with that practice due to semantics of WP:SOFTDELETE. You failed to address any of the issues I presented, so you've changed the topic because you've chosen to characterize my response as aggressive. ✗plicit 03:58, 4 July 2023 (UTC)
- I'm going to take my own advice and drop this as not worth fighting over, but I do hope you reconsider how you speak to people who question your decisions. If I want passive aggression I can go to a homeowners' association meeting. -- Tamzin[cetacean needed] (she|they|xe) 04:08, 4 July 2023 (UTC)
- @Tamzin: The consensus to close RFDs as "soft delete" has existed for, at minimum, six years. You simply have an issue with that practice due to semantics of WP:SOFTDELETE. You failed to address any of the issues I presented, so you've changed the topic because you've chosen to characterize my response as aggressive. ✗plicit 03:58, 4 July 2023 (UTC)
- Is this the tone you normally take with people who say you've made admin actions outside of policy, Explicit? You're acting in, at best, a gray area without consensus, and I'm saying, as an editor in good standing, that I don't think you should be doing that. The correct next step is to get consensus (i.e. get those
- @Tamzin: How odd of you describe it as "not the biggest deal in the world", then proceeding to treat like the biggest deal in the world. What's even more concerning is your belief that a single editor possesses the power to dictate consensus without any outside opinions from the community. And that suggestion of yours to recreate of a redirect that would, by your understanding of consensus, be subject to speedy deletion as WP:CSD#G4? Pitfalls at every turn. The use of soft deletion has been the norm since at least 2017. Who is or isn't actively doing so is irrelevant to established practice. So, no, I have no reason to make any changes to how I close RFDs. ✗plicit 03:36, 4 July 2023 (UTC)
- Yes, I read that discussion at the time. As you acknowledged in starting it, other admins challenged your view that "soft delete" is an appropriate outcome outside of AfD. I don't see how the discussion clarified that it is. Two editors agreed with you, one reiterated his disagreement in the context of TfD, and one said it's sometimes used at RfD (which is only partly true: almost all usage has been by three admins, and you and he are two of them; you're the only one actively doing so). That is not a consensus for changing policy, and accordingly no change was made to policy. I, for one, see a pretty strong downside to soft deletes at RfD, namely that they threaten to mislead people about the established rule that a 1–0 outcome at RfD is treated as consensus to delete, and generally import some of the seriousness of AfD to what is usually a lower-stakes venue. They also don't make sense in the context of redirects given that, if consensus has changed, someone can just recreate a redirect from scratch. If you wish to add soft deletion to the RfD procedures, you're welcome to start an RfC, but you should not be closing RfDs that way when the RfD community has historically shown a preference for a different approach. -- Tamzin[cetacean needed] (she|they|xe) 03:10, 4 July 2023 (UTC)
- @Tamzin: I'm not sure how you have come to that conclusion. WP:DRV has proven several times that pages deleted as a result of deletion debates without any comments are generally restored up a good-faith request. I brought this issue up at Wikipedia talk:Deletion process/Archive 13#Application of WP:SOFTDELETE beyond AFD two years ago and the comments there support that position. ✗plicit 02:30, 4 July 2023 (UTC)
Request for history merge (again)
Hi, can you please history merge Draft:2024 Houston Roughnecks season into 2024 Houston Roughnecks season due to a creation of draft again? Thanks! Timothytyy (talk) 06:01, 4 July 2023 (UTC)
Deletion review for Australia–Soviet Union relations
An editor has asked for a deletion review of Australia–Soviet Union relations. Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review. ITBF (talk) 23:48, 4 July 2023 (UTC)
Would you like to reconsider the closure of Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Physics Essays? Consensus in the main AfD was very clear, and you interpreted it correctly. However, the consensus at Wikipedia:Fringe_theories/Noticeboard#Physics_Essays, Talk:Physics Essays, and Wikipedia:Reference_desk/Science#Sources_for_Physics_Essays are a little more ambiguous. Ca talk to me! 00:08, 5 July 2023 (UTC)
- @Ca: I'm not sure that would be particularly helpful. If the linked discussions have not reached a definitive conclusion, reopening an AFD that has would seem a little disruptive on my part, don't you think? ✗plicit 00:29, 5 July 2023 (UTC)
- That's fair. thanks for the reply. Ca talk to me! 00:34, 5 July 2023 (UTC)
Semantic Arts, Inc.
I am writing in regards to deletion of Semantic Arts, Inc. While it is true I work for the company, I disclosed that as was required on my page.
This company has been around for more than two decades and is a leader in the field of semantics and knowledge graph technology. My page was a draft and incomplete, pending addition of more material related to why this is public interest, external citations, etc.
I'd appreciate the opportunity to complete the draft before any decisions on deletion are made.
No Mafia
Hi, could I request your reading as the closing admin; of the consensus reasoning for No Mafia being deleted? I want to know if it’d be within consensus to rewrite the article with a less promotional tone. Thanks Jack4576 (talk) 05:47, 8 July 2023 (UTC)
- @Jack4576: Hi, in addition to the promotional tone, it was also determined that the sourcing in the article was mostly limited to local reporting. While one participant did point out two other sources, it did not sway even them to argue that it was enough significant coverage. Any editor is allowed to recreate the article as long as the issues brought up at AFD are addressed, though one could optionally create a draft first for outside review. ✗plicit 11:33, 8 July 2023 (UTC)
- Regarding the decision at that AfD that the sources are ‘local’ I note the two sources with lengthy WP:RESTAURANTREVIEWS were #1: The West Australian, a statewide newspaper, and #2: The Sydney Morning Herald, a national newspaper.
- Neither statewide nor national sources are ‘local’ under the consensus view of how WP:AUD is interpreted. (I note that this consensus is visible right now in a lengthy consensus discussion occurring on that policy’s talk page.) They’re also full-length traditional restaurant reviews under the relevant policy.
- If I addressed the promotional tone and recreated the article with the same sources; would that be sufficient to address the issue?
- Kind regards
- Jack4576 (talk) 12:27, 8 July 2023 (UTC)
- @Jack4576: While you may believe those references are enough, consensus at the discussion clearly did not feel they were enough. Recreating the article would likely be meet WP:CSD#G4. ✗plicit 13:16, 8 July 2023 (UTC)
- That discussion misapplies the WP:AUD policy though? No ? Jack4576 (talk) 14:16, 8 July 2023 (UTC)
- It’s not a matter of opinion, it’s a matter of state-wide newspapers categorically being either (1) being in scope of WP:AUD, or (2) not being in scope
- Local consensus on the application of WP:AUD cannot override a general consensus.
- If i recreated the article, I would be following the global consensus on WP:AUD, instead of this misinterpretation of policy? No ? Jack4576 (talk) 14:18, 8 July 2023 (UTC)
- @Jack4576: While you may believe those references are enough, consensus at the discussion clearly did not feel they were enough. Recreating the article would likely be meet WP:CSD#G4. ✗plicit 13:16, 8 July 2023 (UTC)
Closure request
I am not sure which venue to ask this, but would you like to close the pseudo-RfC at Wikipedia:Fringe_theories/Noticeboard#Physics_Essays? Thanks! Ca talk to me! 13:08, 9 July 2023 (UTC)
- @Ca: Hi, requests for closures can be made at WP:CR. ✗plicit 13:32, 9 July 2023 (UTC)
Firstpost
I would like to request you to restore the AfD discussion for this page. I find this delete unjustified. Had I known about it, I would have voted to keep it and worked to improve it, and I'm sure many would do the same. Shahid • Talk2me 13:31, 8 July 2023 (UTC)
- @Shshshsh: Done – as a contested soft deletion, the article has been restored upon request. I have also reopened and relisted the discussion. ✗plicit 13:41, 8 July 2023 (UTC)
- How to undo xfdcloser's link removal? Simple rollback? —Alalch E. 17:06, 8 July 2023 (UTC)
- It's reasonable to expect that the article is not going to be deleted in the end, so I reverted some while it's still easy to undo, but I can't complete this because my internet is terrible at the moment.—Alalch E. 18:54, 8 July 2023 (UTC)
- How to undo xfdcloser's link removal? Simple rollback? —Alalch E. 17:06, 8 July 2023 (UTC)
- I was about to — DaxServer (t · m · e · c) 13:42, 8 July 2023 (UTC)
- @Explicit Can you revert your soft deletions of the wiki links, now that discussion is closed as keep? ~ 🦝 Shushugah (he/him • talk) 09:47, 9 July 2023 (UTC)
- @Shushugah: Hundreds of pages were affected, which realistically is far too much manual work. It's nothing like removing the links, as WP:XFDcloser took care of them automatically. I wonder if a bot could possible take care of it? ✗plicit 10:54, 9 July 2023 (UTC)
- @Explicit I guess for a bot to do it, it would need to know which other bot/action removed the links and also finding if such texts exist anymore given that edits could happen in between, otherwise we risk introducing new disambiguous links. An interesting technical problem in any case! ~ 🦝 Shushugah (he/him • talk) 12:03, 9 July 2023 (UTC)
- @Shushugah: These are all the affected articles, some of which have already been reverted. Not sure if a bot can do anything with user contributions or if a group of editors want to take care of a unfulfilling task. ✗plicit 12:11, 9 July 2023 (UTC)
- It's relatively easy to do manually (in cca 2 hours, I estimate), and I reverted hundreds yesterday, but couldn't finish. —Alalch E. 14:24, 9 July 2023 (UTC)
- @Shushugah: These are all the affected articles, some of which have already been reverted. Not sure if a bot can do anything with user contributions or if a group of editors want to take care of a unfulfilling task. ✗plicit 12:11, 9 July 2023 (UTC)
- @Explicit I guess for a bot to do it, it would need to know which other bot/action removed the links and also finding if such texts exist anymore given that edits could happen in between, otherwise we risk introducing new disambiguous links. An interesting technical problem in any case! ~ 🦝 Shushugah (he/him • talk) 12:03, 9 July 2023 (UTC)
- @Shushugah: Hundreds of pages were affected, which realistically is far too much manual work. It's nothing like removing the links, as WP:XFDcloser took care of them automatically. I wonder if a bot could possible take care of it? ✗plicit 10:54, 9 July 2023 (UTC)
- @Explicit Can you revert your soft deletions of the wiki links, now that discussion is closed as keep? ~ 🦝 Shushugah (he/him • talk) 09:47, 9 July 2023 (UTC)
MilitaryUnitIconMaker
Just so you know, by substing all of those templates from this TFD, all you did was make it so {{MilitaryUnitIconMaker}} now has to be replaced on those same pages. I'll be dealing with that in a little bit, but please keep an eye on such things in the future. Primefac (talk) 07:37, 11 July 2023 (UTC)
- @Primefac: Oh, I see it now. I was at work when I took care of these where I'm active in short bursts, so I only looked at the templates one by one instead of as a group. Thanks for the pointer. ✗plicit 12:23, 11 July 2023 (UTC)
- Aye, no worries, figured it might have been something like that. Primefac (talk) 12:26, 11 July 2023 (UTC)
2023-24 Villarreal CF Season
Hello, will you please enable editing for the upcoming season for spanish club Villarreal. Yeeterz onemanbro (talk) 03:51, 8 July 2023 (UTC)
- @Yeeterz onemanbro: Hi, as far as I can tell, 2023–24 Villarreal CF season and 2023-24 Villarreal CF season are both not protected. Is there a page with a different title you may be referring to? ✗plicit 11:33, 8 July 2023 (UTC)
- nevermind, I clearly have seen it's now avaiable yet enable Yeeterz onemanbro (talk) 19:12, 11 July 2023 (UTC)
AfD nomination
Hi @Explicit. Would you please take a look at this AfD nomination. I've raised some concerns and the more I read it the worse it looks. Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Mrs._Globe_(2nd_nomination). Thanks. Rupples (talk) 07:23, 13 July 2023 (UTC)
It's OK now. Liz has closed the AfD. Rupples (talk) 23:33, 13 July 2023 (UTC)
Repeated request
If you delete one of my drafts in future, please post a note on my talk page. 𝕱𝖎𝖈𝖆𝖎𝖆 (talk) 17:02, 16 July 2023 (UTC)
- @Ficaia: Okay, noted. ✗plicit 23:51, 16 July 2023 (UTC)
Article deletion
Hi @Explicit
Just before deletion of Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Fabrizio Tassinari
I had improved the article with recent references in conventional media as per Criterion 7a of WP:NACADEMIC. There are many others. Could it warrant to reopen? Many thanks.
EllworthsKelly (talk) 11:57, 16 July 2023 (UTC)
- @EllworthsKelly: Hi, I took at look at the two sources you added. One was a transcript of the conversation in the linked video. The other does not seem to address Tassinari directly, but of the themes of his book. I'm not seeing a strong case to justify re-opening the deletion discussion. ✗plicit 23:51, 16 July 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks for taking the time. If the criterion is “frequently quoted in conventional media as an academic expert” there are many more references in archives and major media https://muckrack.com/fabrizio-tassinari/articles#!. https://www.economist.com/search?q=Fabrizio+Tassinari .
- If you could be persuaded to re-open, happy to have another go at improving the article. EllworthsKelly (talk) 13:31, 17 July 2023 (UTC)
File:Brazilian Football Confederation logo.svg
Hi Explicit. Would you mind checking File:Brazilian Football Confederation logo.svg to see if I did things correctly? -- Marchjuly (talk) 22:06, 18 July 2023 (UTC)
- @Marchjuly: Hi, everything looks good. The file was exported to Commons and I have deleted the local version. ✗plicit 00:38, 19 July 2023 (UTC)
- The uploader is the one who moved it to Commons. Thanks for you help with this. Are the page histories of files exported to Commons also exported? Just curious since I've really paid much attention before. When I converted the file to non-free, it was still a local file. However, I noticed that my local edits also showed up in my Commons contributions history after the file was exported. Is that supposed to happen? -- Marchjuly (talk) 00:43, 19 July 2023 (UTC)
- The page history is copied when FileImporter is used, as it was in this case. It's my personal favorite among the tools available for transferring files to Commons. ✗plicit 00:53, 19 July 2023 (UTC)
- The uploader is the one who moved it to Commons. Thanks for you help with this. Are the page histories of files exported to Commons also exported? Just curious since I've really paid much attention before. When I converted the file to non-free, it was still a local file. However, I noticed that my local edits also showed up in my Commons contributions history after the file was exported. Is that supposed to happen? -- Marchjuly (talk) 00:43, 19 July 2023 (UTC)
François Petit
Hi, I was just looking for the article on François Petit. I see that you deleted an article of the same name on April 10, 2023. I'm not sure if it's the article I'm looking for (if it is, it would be the father of Georges Petit, a very famous art dealer, and founder of Galerie François Petit). Any chance you can restore the text of this article to my talk page so I can take a look? Of course, if it has nothing to do with art, then there's no need. Thanks. Viriditas (talk) 09:37, 17 July 2023 (UTC)
- @Viriditas: Hi, the subject of the deleted article was the French actor who played Sub-Zero in Mortal Kombat. ✗plicit 12:11, 17 July 2023 (UTC)
- Thank you. Viriditas (talk) 09:27, 19 July 2023 (UTC)
A well-deserved barnstar
The Admin's Barnstar | ||
For your ultra-fast deletion of the redirects. |
removal of "iMMAP" draft article
Explicit,
I was adding sources and references to the DRAFT article you decided to delete. I just had an exchange with @YesI'mOnFire about it all, was on the process of updating and changing it, adding references from recognized sources (Guardian, NYT...)
I find this particularly rude from you.
Please try to propose ways to settle this and restore my working document.
thanks. Pammismmoc (talk) 13:22, 20 July 2023 (UTC)
- @Pammismmoc: I have restored the draft to give you the opportunity to address the concerns of its promotional language. In it's current form, it does not abide by Wikipedia's neutral point of view policy, which it what led to it being tagged for speedy deletion in the first place. ✗plicit 13:58, 20 July 2023 (UTC)
Speedy deletion
G2, same as User:TypographyFixer/sandbox. Page nominated: User:TypographyFixer/sandbox/New Page, User:TypographyFixer/vector.css, User:TypographyFixer/monobook.css. I don't see the point on keeping these pages. Hddty (talk) 00:21, 21 July 2023 (UTC)
- @Hddty: WP:CSD#G2 specifically states that the criterion does not apply to pages in userspace. Since it appears that User:TypographyFixer/sandbox contains unattributed copies of articles, I'll leave it deleted as it may be full of copyright violations. None of the remaining subpages meet the speedy deletion criteria. You are free to nominate them at WP:MFD, but such bids often result in "keep" because it is seen as WP:GRAVEDANCING. ✗plicit 00:51, 21 July 2023 (UTC)
Empty cats
Category:VFL/AFL Premiership players and Category:VFL/AFL Premiership coaches, which you tagged with {{db-empty}}, will be filled as soon as the CfD closure here is processed. — Qwerfjkltalk 17:17, 21 July 2023 (UTC)
- Also, please give me a notice on my talk page when you tag a category I created for deletion. — Qwerfjkltalk 17:18, 21 July 2023 (UTC)
Restoration of Francoforte
Hello I'd like to request the recreation of Francoforte as it was soft deleted. Jack4576 (talk) 06:20, 23 July 2023 (UTC)
- @Jack4576: Done – as a contested soft deletion, the article has been restored upon request. ✗plicit 06:22, 23 July 2023 (UTC)
Question please
There are a couple of sock accounts on the go at the moment. They're dealt with appropriately by admins. As I've reported a few as soon as they appear (usually via AIV), is it ok for me to keep a list of the sock masters somewhere on my user page to make it easier when reporting? This would make it easier for anyone at AIV to see what the heck I'm talking about on reports. I don't want to fall foul of any Wikipedia policy by accident. I hope this makes sense? Thanks, Knitsey (talk) 15:25, 22 July 2023 (UTC)
- @Knitsey: Have you considered filing reports at WP:SPI? This venue is intended to keep track of sockpuppets and allows others to identify them as well. ✗plicit 01:02, 23 July 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks for the reply. It was more a little list for me as I have a poor memory. The socks are usually blocked as socks once reported to AIV. I just thought it might be easier for Admins if I linked to the sockmaster when reporting them at AIV? So saying something like 'persistent vandalism, believed to be a sock of 'xyv'. Rather than searching through SPI for the master, it would help if I had a little list of the ones I've come across. I'm not really making myself clear am I lol. Knitsey (talk) 19:06, 23 July 2023 (UTC)
- @Knitsey: To answer the initial question, it's perfectly fine to keep a list in your userspace. Keeping a log at SPI works like keeping a paper trail of the accounts, which can make it easier for others to identify any sockpuppets that may come in the future. ✗plicit 23:30, 23 July 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks for the reply. It was more a little list for me as I have a poor memory. The socks are usually blocked as socks once reported to AIV. I just thought it might be easier for Admins if I linked to the sockmaster when reporting them at AIV? So saying something like 'persistent vandalism, believed to be a sock of 'xyv'. Rather than searching through SPI for the master, it would help if I had a little list of the ones I've come across. I'm not really making myself clear am I lol. Knitsey (talk) 19:06, 23 July 2023 (UTC)
Please restore Homeopathy/Appendix: Dilutions. I don't see any evidence this was obviously created in error, and as a former title of the article it IMO deserved a discussion. I suspect this was caught up in a batch of deletions intended to catch mainspace redirects containing usernames, but this isn't one of them. * Pppery * it has begun... 18:44, 23 July 2023 (UTC)
- @Pppery: Done, redirect restored. Pinging Partofthemachine so they are aware of this. ✗plicit 23:30, 23 July 2023 (UTC)
Deletion of Aiden Burn without redirect
You deleted the page of Aiden Burn who was a main character on CSI: NY. There were a lot of links to her missing page. Can you somehow make "Aiden Burn" a redirect so people can find her on the CSI: NY page? I can't figure out how to do that. Redirects were done for Adam Ross and Stella Bonasera. Ducky Submarine (talk) 22:46, 24 July 2023 (UTC)
- @Ducky Submarine: Done, Aiden Burn now redirects to CSI: NY. ✗plicit 01:34, 25 July 2023 (UTC)
- @Explicit: Thank you. Ducky Submarine (talk)
List of Inkigayo Chart winners
Hello Explicit, I am planning on nominating these lists to become Featured Lists. Since you are the main contributor to these articles I wanted to ask for your permission to nominate them. -- EN-Jungwon 18:22, 27 July 2023 (UTC)
- @EN-Jungwon: Hi, feel free. You can ping me if you need any help dealing with Korean sources. ✗plicit 00:10, 28 July 2023 (UTC)
Revdel request
Hello! I'm contacting you because you deleted User talk:175.158.49.6 under WP:G10. Could you also revdel this log entry under RD2 as well? The death threat is just barely visible. Thanks! (please mention me on reply) OutsideNormality (talk) 02:06, 28 July 2023 (UTC)
- @OutsideNormality: Hi, I have hidden the edit summary. Thanks for pointing this out to me. ✗plicit 10:25, 28 July 2023 (UTC)
speedly deletion of Nainika anasuru draft
@Explicit Brother, what is the problem, what problem are you facing in the page created by me that you had put the tag of speedily deletion(G11) on it. Now everything that I had written has been deleted. This page was being created as per the orders of Nainika. What do you see wrong in this that you have taken this step, tell me what should I do now and what should I not do so that there is no problem in creating the page, I want to create the same page again, I want to write her biography in the name of Nainika, I want to write about her. Please help me please. (Unambiguous advertising or promotion – This rationale means that the page was written exclusively to promotion or advertise an entity.) In this guidlines what i do and what i don't do. Pradeepkoli (talk) 11:38, 28 July 2023 (UTC)
XKCD StAr TrEk InTo DaRkNeSs.png
You deleted File:XKCD StAr TrEk InTo DaRkNeSs.png (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) in error, see the discussion at User_talk:Ahecht#Speedy_deletion_nomination_of_File:XKCD_StAr_TrEk_InTo_DaRkNeSs.png, but TL;dr, it is not the same image that was deleted at FFD (you'll note the replacement image was uploaded by the FFD nominator, which should serve as additional evidence that it's not the same image). The other CSD attempt (that it failed NFCC) was also challenged. Please restore the image at your earliest convenience. Courtesy pings: @Ahecht, Seraphimblade, and Randy Kryn: —Locke Cole • t • c 15:31, 28 July 2023 (UTC)
- Agreed, it is a major image on a historical Wikipedia-related page, and serves to define that page. Thanks. Randy Kryn (talk) 23:21, 28 July 2023 (UTC)
- @Locke Cole and Randy Kryn: The file has since been restored as a result of the request at WP:REFUND. ✗plicit 00:11, 29 July 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks. It's one of the most simple but profound and descriptive statements about Wikipedians, and maybe should be on that community page. Randy Kryn (talk) 03:34, 29 July 2023 (UTC)
- @Locke Cole and Randy Kryn: The file has since been restored as a result of the request at WP:REFUND. ✗plicit 00:11, 29 July 2023 (UTC)
Deletion of "Al Baraka Bank Egypt" draft article
Hello There, Please let me know why you deleted the drafted article on my sandbox again?
I have been trying to figure out more information regarding the history of the establishment to be added onto the page? and I am not particularly sure which part you think is meant as "Unambiguous advertisement" so I can change over that part if it's causing the problem.
Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Maha G Aboud (talk • contribs) 12:33, 30 July 2023 (UTC)
- @Maha G Aboud: Hi, I assume you're referring to User:Maha G Aboud/sandbox. It was deleted in accordance with the speedy deletion criterion regarding unambiguous advertising or promotion. The language on this page was not appropriate and it read more like an advertisement. Examples of the puffy language include, "...[the bank] is considered to be one of the pioneers..." and "...[t]he bank employs more than 1,000 qualified and skilled employees to provide the best banking and banking products and services...". Remember, Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not a vehicle for promotion. If you happen to be affiliated with the bank, please read the Wikipedia is not a soapbox or means of promotion policy and our conflict of interest guideline. ✗plicit 13:08, 30 July 2023 (UTC)
- Thank you, I will try rewriting it with this in mind. Maha G Aboud (talk) 10:36, 31 July 2023 (UTC)
AJA Video Systems Draft deletion
Please undo your deletion. It was a draft that was not ready Gochyafx (talk) 00:13, 1 August 2023 (UTC)
- @Gochyafx: Done – as a draft or Articles for creation submission deleted under CSD G13, the page has been restored upon request. They are not for the indefinite hosting of material that is unsuitable for inclusion in the encyclopedia. Please continue to work on the draft so that it meets Wikipedia's policies and guidelines for inclusion, prior to another six months elapsing. ✗plicit 00:15, 1 August 2023 (UTC)
- Will do. Thanks for letting me know about the time limit. 173.219.115.8 (talk) 03:05, 1 August 2023 (UTC)