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TPS alert...
Am out of town unexpectedly. Mother in law had a heart attack Sunday afternoon, we are over with her. So far she’s recovering very well, but am minus reliable computer, just laptop. tablet...@SandyGeorgia:, guess I get to share your pain for a bit....Ealdgyth - Talk 19:03, 9 April 2018 (UTC)
- Thinking of you and hoping for a good recovery :( Best, SandyGeorgia (Talk) 19:08, 9 April 2018 (UTC)
Oh my! Hoping it all goes well, Ealdgyth. Atsme📞📧 19:11, 9 April 2018 (UTC)
update
Still on tablet, so forgive the typos. Heading home, mom in law is doing very well. We will be going back Saturday thru Tuesday to help when she gets home from the hospital and spell my sister in law, who lives right next door to her parents. All docs seem to think she should recover completely, which ain’t bad for a 79 YO they had to do 10 minutes of CPR when she coded in the ambulance...when we go back, will take (crappy) laptop to get some stuff done. Tablet works fine enough for some things, but not wiki editing. Am I’m ready to not spend my days in hospital chairs...Ealdgyth - Talk 23:26, 10 April 2018 (UTC)
Stalkers...
Urse d'Abetot is on the main page tomorrow but I'm going to be out of town. Can folks help keep an eye on it? I'll do as much as I can but... Ealdgyth - Talk 18:41, 13 April 2018 (UTC)
- I'll put it on my watch list, but may not check often tomorrow. Lingzhi ♦ (talk) 18:44, 13 April 2018 (UTC)
- Check, as far as UTC goes...have a safe trip! —SerialNumber54129 paranoia /cheap shit room 18:46, 13 April 2018 (UTC)
- Watching. Johnbod (talk) 19:42, 13 April 2018 (UTC)
- (by talk page stalker) Yup. Chris Troutman (talk) 20:31, 13 April 2018 (UTC)
- Thank you for the article prompted by a rhymed curse. Day by day, I watch the TFA during the time online, - this one with pleasure! However, it's also spring and a funeral. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:23, 14 April 2018 (UTC)
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William fitzRa?ulf
For what it's worth, there is a reason you didn't find William fitzRadulf - there isn't one. There is a William fitzRanulf who was the Whitchurch founder, the family having an association with Lewes. Farrer said that the earl's brother Ralph had a son William, because a William confirmed and extended his father Ranulf's donation to Lewes. The unstated assumption is that Ranulf = Radulf (Ralph). Clay confirms the existence of a William fitzRanulf as Whitchurch founder, Lewes donor, and also appearing in the Lilleshall chartulary, but rightly points out that just as this man is always William fitzRanulf, the earl's brother is always Radulf and the names Ranulf and Radulf are usually distinct. Agricolae (talk) 00:56, 21 April 2018 (UTC)
If there was a barnstar....
.... for putting up with continually useless argument, especially with me, I'd give you it. My "not quite with it" apologies. Although, the apologies are sound, my brain currently is not. Your patience is much appreciated. The Rambling Man (talk) 22:15, 23 April 2018 (UTC)
- not really a worry. I figured you were tired, distracted, or (my usual issue) working on a tablet. Hope you enjoyed Florida, I like to visit there for the bird watching, detest the climate. Ealdgyth - Talk 22:38, 23 April 2018 (UTC)
- mental, 95 degrees and 100% humidity... The Rambling Man (talk) 22:39, 23 April 2018 (UTC)
I see it's going to be TFA on May 2: should File:Junko Takeuchi - Dimanche - Japan Expo 2013 - P1670498.jpg be used as part of the blurb? It's freely licensed and Takeuchi is mentioned in the blurb. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 09:57, 24 April 2018 (UTC)
- That’s a question best asked at the blurb page. I generally err on the side of caution on 8mages when setting things up. Dank handles the actual blurb writing, he’s more familiar with the unique requirements. Ealdgyth - Talk 11:28, 24 April 2018 (UTC)
- Thanks. Pinging David Levy. - Dank (push to talk) 12:58, 24 April 2018 (UTC)
- I've added the image. —David Levy 23:12, 24 April 2018 (UTC)
- Thanks. Pinging David Levy. - Dank (push to talk) 12:58, 24 April 2018 (UTC)
WikiCup 2018 May newsletter
The second round of the 2018 WikiCup has now finished. Most contestants who advanced to the next round scored upwards of 100 points, but two with just 10 points managed to scrape through into round 3. Our top scorers in the last round were:
Cas Liber, our winner in 2016, with three featured articles
Iazyges, with nine good articles and lots of bonus points
Yashthepunisher, a first time contestant, with two featured lists
SounderBruce, a finalist last year, with seventeen good topic articles
Usernameunique, a first time contestant, with fourteen DYKs
Muboshgu, a seasoned competitor, with three ITNs and
Courcelles, another first time contestant, with twenty-seven GARs
So far contestants have achieved twelve featured articles between them and a splendid 124 good articles. Commendably, 326 GARs have been completed during the course of the 2018 WikiCup, so the backlog of articles awaiting GA review has been reduced as a result of contestants' activities. As we enter the third round, remember that any content promoted after the end of round 2 but before the start of round 3 can be claimed in round 3. Remember too that you must claim your points within 14 days of "earning" them. When doing GARs, please make sure that you check that all the GA criteria are fully met; most of the GARs are fine, but a few have been a bit skimpy.
If you are concerned that your nomination—whether it is at good article nominations, a featured process, or anywhere else—will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews Needed (remember to remove your listing when no longer required). Questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup, and the judges are reachable on their talk pages or by email. Good luck! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove your name from Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. Godot13 (talk), Sturmvogel 66 (talk), Vanamonde (talk) and Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:10, 1 May 2018 (UTC)
Copyright issue... [Unfounded copyright issue with regard to Battle of Poison Spring page, please restore text]
"Ealdgyth" and "Justlettersandnumbers",
I readily admit that I am a bit bewildered as to how OSU (or anyone else for that matter) could have merely scanned a U.S. government publication and then "copyrighted it" when federal laws and regulations read to the contrary. Copyright laws clearly state that any work created by a federal government employee or officer is in the public domain, provided that the work was created in that person’s official capacity.
In fact, every volume of The War of the Rebellion: a Compilation of the Official Records of the Union and Confederate Armies that OSU's Department of History has scanned onto their site clearly states in the "[Preface]" that ... "By an act approved June 23,1874, Congress made an appropriation "to enable the Secretary of War to begin the publication of the Official Records of the War of the Rebellion, both of the Union and Confederate Armies ... " And because it is a publication in the public domain, numerous academics and nonprofits have repeatedly scanned these ORs and posted them to their respective websites.
Here are but two such examples:
- The War of the Rebellion: a Compilation of the Official Records of the Union and Confederate Armies at Cornell University
- The War of the Rebellion: a Compilation of the Official Records of the Union and Confederate Armies at Internet Archive
Please restore the Battle of Poison Spring text.
Lieutcoluseng (talk) 11:29, 1 May 2018 (UTC)
Administrators' newsletter – May 2018
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German war effort arbitration case opened
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Hi! Is this of any interest? Johnbod (talk) 13:50, 20 May 2018 (UTC)
Precious six years!
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--Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:04, 24 May 2018 (UTC)
- Six years of what? My editing anniversary is the 27th of May (and it'll be 11 years then) and my admin birthday is in January ... I'm confused. Ealdgyth - Talk 14:17, 24 May 2018 (UTC)
- There's a link, - too bad I didn't notice sooner that you are precious than six years ago, and that I didn't wait for a meaningful day, at least two others noticed sooner, - see link. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:36, 24 May 2018 (UTC)
The vandalisation of my talk page by Doug Weller
I want to take this time to reply against the accusations made by User:Doug Weller. His problem with me is two-folded.
- He didn't like the fact that I asked a rhetorical question on two relevant talk pages
- That's no problem as far as I'm concerned. He don't have to like it, he just don't have to threaten me while telling me so
- He hate the fact I listen to Rebel Media, and use them as a source for debating future edits of relevant pages
- This is a problem, and making threats of blocking my rights to edit if I continue to use them as sources makes it even more of a problem. His idea by continue threatening me is not to make my editing experience go a lot better, but to ensure they goes down the drain, simply because I don't hold the "correct" opinions as viewed by him.
As for my contact with User:Emeraude, which the previously mentioned person also threatened me for, we had already, as far as I'm concerned, parted as equals, with no further bad feelings between us. His overreactions was therefore uncalled for and only done with the intent to do further damage to my talk page and my reputation among the staff of Wikipedia.
I hope that by clearing up these issues, no further damage will be done
--Koppadasao (talk) 13:16, 27 May 2018 (UTC)
- no, you are using various article talk pages as forums. Doug’s warnings are entirely valid and are not vandalism. You need to stop accusing him of the things above, because if you keep casting aspersions you will end up blocked. Ealdgyth - Talk 13:24, 27 May 2018 (UTC)
- Well, then, thank you for confirming that Wikipedia is no longer a politically unbiased lexicon--Koppadasao (talk) 13:33, 27 May 2018 (UTC)
- Btw, as this is now a leftist propaganda site, I want to do what a good leftist does and report User:Batternut for having called me a ″fatuous drunken″ and a ″friendless dunderhead″ on Talk:United Kingdom. I have never been more insulted in my whole life!--Koppadasao (talk) 14:05, 27 May 2018 (UTC)
- Well, then, thank you for confirming that Wikipedia is no longer a politically unbiased lexicon--Koppadasao (talk) 13:33, 27 May 2018 (UTC)
Out of town...
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help?
I have been working with a group of editors to completely rewrite and improve the article on the Women's liberation movement. This is in-effect the 50-year anniversary of its take-off propelled by the student protests in 1968 (yes, some groups started before but it took off in '68). We would like to submit it for GA, but are doing the final tweaks. I'd like to line up a reviewer before we submit it, as my files seem to languish there and we want someone who will do a thorough review, not a rubber stamp.
I think it is important that the same reviewer tackle the entirety of the subject, which means reviewing 5 articles. To show the breadth of the movement, we broke it up into a main article and the four continents on which it flourished. In speaking with Montanabw, she suggested you might take on the task, as she is swamped in real life. Would you be interested in reviewing the articles for us? (as a side note, do you know anyone fluent in Spanish who could review a nomination which has been pending since September 2017?) Thank you for any help or insight you can give. SusunW (talk) 13:20, 31 May 2018 (UTC)
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Short descriptions
Hi Ealdgyth, Thanks for adding short descriptions, it is a huge task and will take a long time, so more contributors are most welcome. Can I try to persuade you to use the template {{short description}} which includes the magic word, instead of the bare magic word. The reason is twofold.
- The template adds a maintenance category and makes it easier to find the articles which have a short description, and
- The template allows the short description to be made visible using css, which allows those who use the css to identify cases where there are more than one short description in an article, and correct this where appropriate. Cheers, · · · Peter (Southwood) (talk): 19:15, 23 May 2018 (UTC)
- I have found another reason. Galobtter's short description editing tool does not work for bare magic words. It is necessary to open the whole document and search for the magic word before it can be edited. This is not as important as the other reasons, as the tool could be modified with some effort, if there is consensus to use bare short descriptions. At present the use in templates is standard. Cheers, · · · Peter (Southwood) (talk): 07:21, 24 May 2018 (UTC)
- Wouldn't it make more sense to have a bot change the magic word to the template? I'll use the template going forward, but... other people are going to do it so it will probably need to be fixed continuously. Ealdgyth - Talk 14:16, 24 May 2018 (UTC)
- Thanks, That will be fine. Cleaning up a few bare magic words is not a big problem. I will convert them if I run into them, which may be more often than I originally expected, as you have added them to some rather interesting articles. At some stage someone will run a bot to fix the rest. Cheers, · · · Peter (Southwood) (talk): 11:57, 3 June 2018 (UTC)
- Wouldn't it make more sense to have a bot change the magic word to the template? I'll use the template going forward, but... other people are going to do it so it will probably need to be fixed continuously. Ealdgyth - Talk 14:16, 24 May 2018 (UTC)
- I have found another reason. Galobtter's short description editing tool does not work for bare magic words. It is necessary to open the whole document and search for the magic word before it can be edited. This is not as important as the other reasons, as the tool could be modified with some effort, if there is consensus to use bare short descriptions. At present the use in templates is standard. Cheers, · · · Peter (Southwood) (talk): 07:21, 24 May 2018 (UTC)
RE - comment at AE - what can I do better?
Re this comment - I've been attracting alot of "heat" in trying to clean up the SPS use in the field (and I've mainly stuck to the really poor ones) - I haven't introduced any self-published work (and the lowest standard of source I've used is newspaper coverage - and that for contemporary stuff (e.g. coverage of 2000s and beyond)). Getting to the point, I am discouraged/concerned by your observation that there is little incentive for non-involved editors or admins to wade into this to give opinions, because the tone of editing by those most heavily involved is so poor.
- because un-involved opinion is exactly what is needed here. Without naming particular editor(s) - I usually challenge a source - and then face a fairly automatic "it's good" response (even on sources I do not think should even be up for discussion - e.g. Mark Paul) - and the only way to get out of that is 3rd party input. I have posted on noticeboards a few times, and I have launched a couple of rfCs on this (which have elicited outside input) - but I'm also trying not to overload the system too much (e.g. Anna Poray - which I've challenged, had general agreement on BLP/n (which in retrospect perhaps wasn't the best venue even though this did overlap with BDP/BLP policy) - and then after waiting for BLP/n to close (so - a couple of weeks) - faced a challenge on removing it - and now I'm mulling whether a RfC would the right thing to do and where). RS/n seems a bit "dead" for many of these topics (though it is livelier on RfCs) - some threads there go unanswered or have 1-2 editors commenting (also on topics well away from Poland related issues - it seems that if it isn't related to American politics or the Daily Mail that it is often quite dead). I have not been making personal attacks, at least as far as I'm aware. AE seems to be ill equipped to deal with inappropriate use of sources (looking at it as a content issue).
Cutting short on the TLDR above - what do you suggest I do better? What's the best process here?Icewhiz (talk) 13:06, 3 June 2018 (UTC)
- You're doing the process right, you just need to stop with the hyperbole. Calling for a rev-delete at Talk:Collaboration in German-occupied Poland#RfC: Jewish Baiting Techniques was hyperbole - it's very unlikely such would be rev-deleted, which is reserved for grossly offensive material. Try to avoid labeling everything "fringe". Stick to "self-published" and you'll have less concerns. Be absolutely impeccable in your behavior, even when it seems like others are misbehaving. Be careful of personalizing disputes. Be very very careful of the various 1RR and "consensus required" arbitration enforcement provisions. Stick to the sources at hand, argue from them. When possible, replace the SPS sources with better ones rather than deleting the information. And this one applies to everyone editing in the area - read the freaking sources rather than doing Google searches for information/source/citations. The actual sources need to be mastered by reading widely and digesting them. Everyone in this area needs to read a lot more and google a lot less. Ealdgyth - Talk 13:14, 3 June 2018 (UTC)
- Further (and again, this applies to everyone in the area) - when another editor reverts you - take the discussion to talk and try to see a way to compromise by restating what YOU think you mean and ask the others what would make a good compromise. Ealdgyth - Talk 13:16, 3 June 2018 (UTC)