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Happy New Year, Deepfriedokra!

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Deepfriedokra,
Have a prosperous, productive and enjoyable New Year, and thanks for your contributions to Wikipedia.
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Happy New Year

Should auld acquaintance be forgot
And never brought to mind?
Should auld acquaintance be forgot
And days of auld lang syne?
For auld lang syne, my dear
For auld lang syne
We'll tak a cup o' kindness yet {{done}}
For days of auld lang syne
We twa hae run about the braes
And pu'd the gowans fine
But we've wander'd mony a weary fit
Sin days of auld lang syne
We twa hae paidl'd i' the burn
Frae morning sun till dine
But seas between us braid hae roar'd
Sin days of auld lang syne
For auld lang syne, my dear
For auld lang syne
We'll tak a cup o' kindness yet
For days of auld lang syne
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And surely I'll be mine
And we'll tak a cup o' kindness yet
For auld lang syne
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And we'll tak a right gude-willy waught
For auld lang syne
For auld lang syne, my dear
For auld lang syne
We'll tak a cup o' kindness yet
For auld lang syne
For auld lang syne, my dear
For auld lang syne
We'll tak a cup o' kindness yet
For auld lang syne  --Robert Burns

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--Deepfriedokra (talk) 03:45, 1 January 2021 (UTC)

Hear, hear! Happy New Year, Deepfriedokra! BlackcurrantTea (talk) 05:11, 1 January 2021 (UTC)

Kittrell College

For your information: a message for you misplaced at RFPP. --Malcolmxl5 (talk) 20:24, 2 January 2021 (UTC)

@Malcolmxl5:Thanks. Saw that. Looks like a COI editor who needs to discuss content and sourcing on the article talk page. What's your view? --Deepfriedokra (talk) 22:11, 2 January 2021 (UTC)

Yes, there is a COI and they also appear not to understand that what we do here is to summarise what third-party sources say about a topic and that WP:V is a bedrock of that. If they want to write original content, they should do so elsewhere. --Malcolmxl5 (talk) 23:51, 2 January 2021 (UTC)

They have a COI and, erm ... strong opinions. Strong opinions based on a misunderstanding of WP:RS. They left a similar, unsigned note on my user page (not my talk page). I got caught in a proxy block today for the second time in as many weeks (blasted open wi-fi with a dynamic IP I've no control over), and I really don't want anyone to see that or the like (should they repost it) and think I wrote it. Would it be possible to protect my user page for a bit, in case the bot blocks this IP or others, and I'm unable to clean it up? Cheers, BlackcurrantTea (talk) 01:09, 3 January 2021 (UTC)

@BlackcurrantTea: I’ve ECP your user page for one week; hopefully they will have learnt how to use talk pages by then. I’m bemused though where your paths have crossed, I can’t figure it out. --Malcolmxl5 (talk) 01:46, 3 January 2021 (UTC)

Thanks, Malcolmxl5! I don't remember how I got to their talk page. I might have been looking at the contributions of one of the editors who'd posted there, or seen something on a noticeboard. Silly me, I had to try to be helpful. I'll step aside now and let others have the pleasure. BlackcurrantTea (talk) 02:18, 3 January 2021 (UTC)

If there were a scale for WP:OWN from 1–10, this might be a 9.5. BlackcurrantTea (talk) 16:17, 6 January 2021 (UTC)

Persistent unhelpful UTRS appeals

I have just declined UTRS appeal 39122. It is at least the ninth UTRS appeal for the same IP range block, though the list of "Previous appeals" doesn't show them all: it looks as though it has only a capacity of eight appeals. None of the appeals gave a good reason for unblocking, and several of them didn't give any reason at all. What do you think of a UTRS ban? JBW (talk) 21:48, 3 January 2021 (UTC)

@JBW: Thanks, I'll have a look. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 00:43, 4 January 2021 (UTC)

 Done --Deepfriedokra (talk) 00:51, 4 January 2021 (UTC)

A certain editor's Talk page access...

123Peacock123 seems to be misusing his Talk page.--Quisqualis (talk) 23:07, 4 January 2021 (UTC)

(talk page stalker)  Done --Floquenbeam (talk) 23:16, 4 January 2021 (UTC)

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Jennifer Hansen

I've continued to try to guide Celco85, as has Fleet Lists. They've started this as their second article, and before I burn an edit making it look as good as I can—and particularly because all I found in Trove when looking for sources to add to those the editor has was an old scandal concerning the death of someone we do not appear to have an article on, where she denied involvement—I'd like to ask you to check it against the deleted version. I have a dim recollection that one of the BLPs I improved in the second half of 2020 was another Australian news presenter, but I doubt it was this one; however, I wonder who created the deleted version as well as whether it has any sources that can be used. In addition, I've been wondering about Celco's file uploads, which he's passed through immediately to Commons; the JAG MEN one looks to have been taken rather early to be his own work, while File:JM 2010.jpg shows John Madigan (politician) wearing the same shirt as photos online from interviews at the time of his election in 2010, but I was unable to find this exact shot elsewhere through Google image search, and both it and the editor's uploaded photo of Hansen claim own work, and claim the upload date as the date of creation, while having no camera metadata and a description as being from an earlier date—for Madigan in the file name, for Hansen in the file description. There are several such photos among the editor's portrait uploads, and the Hansen photo also looks blurry enough to be from a magazine. Before I raise this issue with the editor or nominate any of the images for deletion on Commons, perhaps the Hansen photo was already in the deleted version and they got that from the earlier creator? All the others look professional to my rather age-degraded eyes, so I have been wondering whether the editor was formerly involved in press or publicity, and I very much don't want to discourage them from writing on broader subjects, as they earlier did at King & Country (company), rather than on politicians and the Locco family. Yngvadottir (talk) 20:49, 5 January 2021 (UTC)

As this was ProDed before, I can restore old versions. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 21:13, 5 January 2021 (UTC)

@Celco85:{ Unless you took a picture yourself, you cannot claim as own work. If it is a screenshot, it is a WP:COPYVIO. Please clarify the provenance of the images in question. (fix ping?)

@Yngvadottir: I'm just glad this is not about a debacle I encountered last year.` --Deepfriedokra (talk)

Hello to clarify about the photos none of the photos I have uploaded are screenshots the Hansen photo was not from a magazine it was taken on a old camera I used years ago same with the photo of Madigan the Madigan photo was taken before he became a senator for Victoria.--~Celco85Celco85 (talk) Also I am not involved in the press or Journalism. --Celco85Celco85 (talk) 07:17, 6 January 2021 (UTC) I was at a rally outside Parliament house which I took that photo of Madigan.-Celco85-Celco85 (talk) 07:17, 6 January 2021 (UTC) I thought Jennifer Hansen would be notable to have page on Wikipedia she was the reader of Ten News on Network ten years ago with Mal Walden I can accept I can be wrong though. --Celco85Celco85 (talk) 07:20, 6 January 2021 (UTC)

@Celco85: if you haven't already done so, you should change the dates on your uploaded photos to when you actually took them (month and year is fine if you don't have an exact record). Please be aware that although it's a common mistake to think you are the "author" of a photo if you use your cellphone to get it off the internet or a printed source, it's a very serious one here, because the photos are published where anyone can see and reuse them. So fix the dates and be ready for questions from others, especially since you've been transferring them to Commons, where there's no "fair use" at all.

As to Hansen, the same thing as with King & Country, but more concerning because she's a living person: you didn't do a very good job. You hardly used the MyStyle source at all to get info about her career. Yes, she appears to be notable mainly for that job on Ten News, but you can't just say she did that and is married to somebody famous and leave it at that: it's an encyclopedia, write an article about her! You did think she's notable enough to have one—someone else did, too, there was actually a long-standing article about her, and on balance I thought the PROD should be removed. And we were lucky: the old version gave me two good sources that I hadn't found by searching. But it may well go to AfD and you're right, other Wikipedians may reach an agreement that it should be deleted. I will try to defend it if that happens, but people don't always agree with me. Have the courage of your convictions, and do justice to your subject. Write it up fully, ideally with 2–3 references the first time you save, and making full use of the information in them. (It's not so important to format references well, but it's a sign of sloppiness that you aren't even saying what the titles, dates, and publications are. Note also that you can use the same reference more than once, using <ref name=>.) Have a look at what her article says about her now, and look at the edit code for how I used that feature. Yngvadottir (talk) 07:52, 6 January 2021 (UTC)

@Yngvadottir: I think you said it better than I could. There is content and sourcing in the old revisions that can be brought forward if suitable. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 12:00, 6 January 2021 (UTC)

"Anaheim Boulevard" listed at Redirects for discussion

A discussion is taking place to address the redirect Anaheim Boulevard. The discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 January 5#Anaheim Boulevard until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. -³²²UbnBr₂ (Talk | Contributions | Actions) 21:33, 5 January 2021 (UTC)

File:Largo, Florida Map Mar 6,1925.jpg

I just undeleted this because the source newspaper issue is now definitely in the public domain. If you still have the full-resolution scan, feel free to overwrite at Commons. Wikiacc (¶) 05:13, 6 January 2021 (UTC), edited 05:16, 6 January 2021 (UTC)

Akshobhya Tirtha

Hello. Thank you for protecting the article. However, can you restore it to the state before the vandalism/deletions? The IP has deleted a few of the referenced claims. Prabhanjan Mutalik (talk) 12:53, 6 January 2021 (UTC)

@Prabhanjanmutalik: please discuss content and sourcing on the article talk page. Thanks. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 12:56, 6 January 2021 (UTC)

I have. But the IP is persistent in removing the information without credible evidence. As I understand, the claims, if referenced, can be added to the encyclopedia. Or am I mistaken? Once you remove the protection, I'm sure the edit warring will continue. How do you suggest I resolve this? Prabhanjan Mutalik (talk) 13:08, 6 January 2021 (UTC)

And now the disruption is stopped. Please follow WP:DR. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 13:14, 6 January 2021 (UTC)

Kazemita1's appeal

Hi Deepfriedokra,

To clarify this case further, Kazemita1 was not blocked for this edit (as he has said in their appeal). He was blocked for this edit where he pretends to be a different user from the IP: He starts by saying ("Follow up on the IP's question...").

Just a few months prior, Kazemita1 had been blocked for block evasion (editing through IPs while being blocked for something else). See their SPI cases.

Kazemita1's appeal does not address any of this; but instead says "At the time, I did not think that would be a punishable action as I was not really editing an article", which seem disingenous considering they had been blocked for this just a few months before, and the last time they were blocked they were clearly pretending to be a different user while editing through an IP. Alex-h (talk) 13:48, 8 January 2021 (UTC)

@Alex-h: You should post this in the unblock discussion on the user's talk. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 13:55, 8 January 2021 (UTC)

I did, but Kazemita1 removed it from his talk page. Alex-h (talk) 22:54, 8 January 2021 (UTC)

We can remove comments from our talk pages. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 17:32, 12 January 2021 (UTC)

User:Celco85

YngvadottirPrevious report now archived - last seen here on page [1]

• Last night I again reported this editor on the Vandalism page but for the second time the report went stale. Since then the editor has replaced part of the second welcome on his talk page, added by Yngvadottir recently, with what appears some meaningless part of the Brighton Icebergers article - this has been reverted. Using the previous words of Yngvadottir, what can we do to stop all this? Fleet Lists (talk) 22:27, 8 January 2021 (UTC)

To be fair ... The apparently meaningless bit was a fragment of what I'd typed; see the diff of your restoration of the messages on his page. He does have the right to remove stuff from his user talk, including without archiving, but those 2 removal edits were incompetent and confused you. I had used the shark reference in my rewrite of Brighton Icebergers, and noted in my edit summary after its removal that sharks being commonly seen by swimmers in an ocean is a somewhat Australian view, but yes, I guess that counts as consensus, I do not think the page needs it to demonstrate notability and it adds only a smidgen to its completeness. My assessment is that the editor is improving very, very slowly. They now usually sign talk page posts, albeit with a weird doubled signature. They started referencing Jennifer Hansen with the second edit, although it was still a bad job, and it seems possible it will be kept at AfD like their previous article creation. The incidence of both politically slanted edits, in mainspace and elsewhere, has gone down, though there's a dodgy statement on their user page right now. I see they took my advice and changed dates on some of their images, although this appears from the camera metadata to be a change in the wrong direction. They're less often noodling with article wording to the detriment of the grammar. And while continuing to ask on talk pages, "Can we use this?" adds to the time others need to spend checking their work, it shows a continuing attempt to work with us, though they are plainly having trouble understanding weight, NPOV, and how to use sources (and big trouble formatting refs or in one case that I noted at the Hansen AfD, even getting a proper URL for the source). I want if possible for them to continue asking rather than shoving stuff in, and to continue giving us new articles on notable topics but to do a far better job so we don't all have to go through speedies, PRODs, and AfDs, particularly on living people who may see the article while it's still in bad shape. I would suggest the editor use AfC, but it's almost impossible to get an article out of there these days. Perhaps we can get the editor to use their sandbox, but that would be yet another instruction from us and they plainly find it hard to do what we recommend. (The incomplete deletion on their talk may be from phone editing; I understand the WMF's phone editing interface is horrendous and that VizEd can't handle talk pages.) So, umm. I owe you a lot of thanks, Fleet Lists, for continuing to monitor and trying to guide Celco85. It's slow, but I do think they're moving in the right direction. Yngvadottir (talk) 01:12, 9 January 2021 (UTC)

Somalia

You asked to be tagged if there was an issue about vandalism within the Somalia Page

This user User:Siirski is not discussing anything and constantly reverting. He has also been previously caught using copyright material and other issues.

Could you please have a look. I have built consensus and another user agrees with my source (Britannica) yet User:Siirski removes it and puts a note instead. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hurbad (talk • contribs) 19:39, 11 January 2021 (UTC)

The issue is still there, they are deleting references even after asking them to discuss. The same three users keep reverting eachothers text and removing sources. Could you kindly look at the history and talk pages. They have refused to engage in the talk page as to why they've deleted a reliable source.

Could you please intervene Hurbad (talk) 12:37, 21 January 2021 (UTC)

Blocked vandal

Thank you for responding to my request on RFPP. You have redacted one edit. Can you redact the 2 others from this vandal on other pages too?

Why is the dog's eye cropped. Consider replacing the image with both eyes intact. --Walrus Ji (talk) 10:21, 12 January 2021 (UTC)

Slovak language vandal

Hi. Just wanted to refer to this vandal. It's happening again, with no response for some reason. See [2] Can something be done about this, or can people agree upon one version of the page (whatever)? But again, this kind of editing doesn't make sense cause it only introduces inconsistencies and only gets rid partially of the disliked word (it's also mentioned in the lede). That's why I think it's vandalism; if anything, *both* mentions of the name should be removed (preferably with a sound justification). 83.23.98.16 (talk) 17:23, 12 January 2021 (UTC)

Continued edit warring at University of the People

About a week ago, you protected University of the People in response to a request made at RFPP. One of the editors involved in those edit wars, Weatherextremes, has resumed edit warring now that the protection has expired. He or she has been warned and has engaged in edit warring with multiple editors. I think it's time for a short block and a pointed word about WP:OWN. ElKevbo (talk) 18:28, 25 January 2021 (UTC)

Hello none of the editors engaged in the talk page once the protection took place which is the meaning of a content dispute thus I went ahead and edited. I have created a more balanced version while at the same time protecting the article from biased sources and suspected sockpuppets Weatherextremes (talk) 18:31, 25 January 2021 (UTC)

@ElKevbo and Weatherextremes: Sorry, y'all. Not getting in the middle of y'all's content dispute. Please follow the steps for WP:DR. You've squandered the time you could have spent working this out. I don't think you want to work it out. Best answer I can come up with is to partial block you both from that page. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 19:07, 25 January 2021 (UTC)

Take a look at the edit history, please; I haven't been involved in the edit war with my most recent edit prior to this one made in November.

It's very discouraging and inappropriate for an administrator to not only dismiss a request for help from an editor who is not involved in a dispute but for that administrator to then accuse that editor of also being a substantive cause of that dispute.

I'll head over to ANI; maybe someone there will take their administrator responsibilities seriously and help out the project. ElKevbo (talk) 19:20, 25 January 2021 (UTC)

@ElKevbo: That would be best. Or WP:EW. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 19:28, 25 January 2021 (UTC)

PS. Please be sure to notify Weatherextremes when you do. Thanks. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 19:31, 25 January 2021 (UTC)

Myself and other editors have brought to everyone's attention the fact that various sockpuppets have been those doing the edit warring. They do not engage constructively and keep on adding non reliable sources that have been refutted. I call on admins to have a full on investigation on sockpuppets and editors who have been editing in a disruptive manner regarding this article. I have tried to uphold wikipedia's standards by continuously calling for dialogue and a dispute resolution for the content dispute Weatherextremes (talk) 19:35, 25 January 2021 (UTC)

@Weatherextremes: Please see my commentary above, and ElKevbo's response, and please take all y'all's concerns to ANI. Thank you kindly. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 19:40, 25 January 2021 (UTC)

Done! Thank you Weatherextremes (talk) 19:41, 25 January 2021 (UTC)

UTRS 39432

Hi,

Just to let you know that I've taken over this appeal. It's just because there's been no action since the 12th or 13th so doesn't look like they're going to reply :)-- 5 albert square (talk) 20:53, 25 January 2021 (UTC)

"nobody for nuttin"

I'd like to say that your thing on your user page still categorizes you into "Paid contributors", so... JJP...MASTER!_{[talk to] JJP... master?} 12:40, 27 January 2021 (UTC)

Please ignore

I don't know whether you will have already read my email by the time you see this, but you can ignore it. What I suggested doing has already been done by someone else. JBW (talk) 23:43, 28 January 2021 (UTC)

@JBW: Intrigued. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 23:50, 28 January 2021 (UTC)

Changing username

Hello Deepfriedokra. I want to change my username. If I request you to change my name, can you change it, or I have to request on a Wikipedia page? Jag-Eun Byeol (talk) 17:18, 30 January 2021 (UTC)

Please see the information at Wikipedia:Changing username. CMD (talk) 17:47, 30 January 2021 (UTC)

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A barnstar for you!

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	Thank you for protecting the pages from vandals. This is to let you know that it is very much appreciated. :) Ashleyyoursmile! 16:56, 5 February 2021 (UTC)

Hi Deepfriedokra, about the SkillPatron draft

Hi Deepfriedokra, I was just wondering if you could take another look at the draft or give me a cue on why the topic was taken off as it’s one of the first pages I “talked” on Wikimafia711 | (talk). 07:42, 7 February 2021 (UTC)

Commented on draft. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 11:42, 9 February 2021 (UTC)

IP editor at Dakota War of 1862

Thanks for semi-protecting Dakota War of 1862. The IP editor unfortunately is also editing other articles in the same manner with unsourced, undiscussed changes – often changing properly sourced information to values counter to the sourcing, that could well be WP:SNEAKY vandalism, which are being reverted by several editors. See the discussion on my talk page and at Talk:Dakota War of 1862. The contributions from the IPv6 range all seem to be from the same IP editor and so there would'nt be any collateral damage. Would you consider a short range block to either deter them or possibly get them to start talking? Thanks. Mojoworker (talk) 22:19, 11 February 2021 (UTC)

 Done: Blocked 2 months. Mojoworker (talk) 05:27, 14 February 2021 (UTC)

Al Besselink

Maybe you should read the talk page there. 3 editors want to use original research and primary sources to say Besselink is dead. I have pointed out why this is wrong and why- WP:OR, WP:BLP, and WP:BLPPRIMARY. Nothing has been done of late, but one editor plans[3] to re-add that Besselink is dead.

Two of the three editors have in the vicinity of 100,000 edits. I should stop being lazy, and file an ARBCOM case like` you and I talked about last year....William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 00:01, 12 February 2021 (UTC)

New Fairfield

Hello, I was part of that editing war and I take full responsibility for my partaking. I was wrong to engage and I learned from my experience. I was simply trying to stop the deletion of vital information. I am requesting downgrade from full protection to template protection for the sole purpose of letting other editors add what they need to in the coming months. The page is monitored so if one of us were to start that up again which I vow not to, it would be immediately seen and you could take action. I don’t want to penalize others for my poor choices. Elvisisalive95 (talk) 00:41, 6 March 2021 (UTC)

@Elvisisalive95: Go forth and edit war no more.00:45, 6 March 2021 (UTC)

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yes

you were right the first time. Drmies (talk) 02:00, 6 March 2021 (UTC)

weird. I mean WTF? --Deepfriedokra (talk) 02:01, 6 March 2021 (UTC)

I'm wondering if we don't have a bunch of creeps who are tagging along with vandalism. Note the geolocation of the three IPs. Drmies (talk) 02:02, 6 March 2021 (UTC)

Oh, somebody's resetting their router. The mockery was telling. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 02:06, 6 March 2021 (UTC)

Louis XVIII

Hi, I noticed the above conversation and just wanted to see if you had taken a look at Louis XVIII protection history. The page has been consistently vandalized despite multiple protections for more than a year. The protection put in is significantly shorter than the previous protection, which was one year in length. The pervasive vandalism resumed literally ten minutes after the protection's expiration. Can you please take a look at the page and it's protection history and consider making it longer? Ledbetterian (talk) 02:21, 6 March 2021 (UTC)

 Done --Deepfriedokra (talk) 02:25, 6 March 2021 (UTC)

Talk:RuPaul's Drag Race UK (series 2)

Thanks for picking up the abuse over at the above page. It snowballed quite quickly. ≫ Lil-Unique1 -{ Talk }- 22:34, 6 March 2021 (UTC)

@Lil-unique1: Three logged in editors (now blocked), three IP's (now blocked), 35 non constructive edits, over 18 minutes. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 18:07, 7 March 2021 (UTC)

I literally dispair. Both RuPaul's Drag Race UK (series 1) and RuPaul's Drag Race UK (series 2) have been reverted back to their old formats including WP:SYNTHESIS on multiple varients of safe conveyed purely by colour, removal of table scope which is least controversial of MOS:ACCESS etc. What do you suggest? I've tried to refrain from editing cause I don't want to be accused of perpetuating an edit war even though I know technically multiple wikipedia policies are on my side. RandomCanadian ≫ Lil-Unique1 -{ Talk }- 17:17, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

Report at [[WP:ANI]?] Report all the pages that violate MOSACESS. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 17:21, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

Cheers DFO, have done here in case you want to comment Drag Race ANI ≫ Lil-Unique1 -{ Talk }- 18:53, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

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	Again thanks for your prompt actions which will hopefully bring this unfortunate situation to a less dramatic conclusion. RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 01:48, 7 March 2021 (UTC)

There's one new edit request for now - I don't know if it is because those editors are not interested in participating in the discussion or if it is simply because they haven't noticed (?). Cheers, RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 17:46, 7 March 2021 (UTC)

@RandomCanadian: Doubt they've interest in the discussion about the table. They just want to "update". To me, that's fannish. I don't care, really, about the content, as long as it is sourced. The last edit request I saw lacked sourcing. Did not even suffer from punctuation or capitalization, so. . . . I'll leave reviewing the ER to those who enjoy such things. Cheers, --Deepfriedokra (talk) 18:00, 7 March 2021 (UTC)

While we're at it, can I ask for a small favour? Can you ECP my user page? There's very little reason anybody besides me should be editing it, and it's obviously attracting occasional attention... (in addition to one user who actually managed to not get caught by the filter) Cheers, RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 22:28, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

@RandomCanadian: Sure, but remember vandalism to you user page is congruent with the job you are doing. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 22:30, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

Well it is... Thanks, RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 22:34, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

Gosh I'm dying here... Apparently, lots of people think WP is some form of a fansite. Or should I just withdraw that 'cause clearly there's no chance of anything actually happening? Cheers, RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 14:22, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

Report at ANI. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 17:22, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

What happened

You recently removed something from my talk page. I cannot see anything of that. What was it? I want to know.🥺 -- Manasbose ^{(talk | edits)} 06:38, 7 March 2021 (UTC)

Vandalism. Purely disruptive material. Likely an LTA. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 07:58, 7 March 2021 (UTC)

Hello. I am new to editing on Wikipedia and have only added factual changes with reputable citations on a few topics I am interested in. I also am the only person using this page. Not sure how this could be considered a conflict of interest? Please advise why my account and edits were flagged. Islandofedits (talk) 17:00, 15 March 2021 (UTC)

Could you look at this mistake I made

Hello, I noticed you were up and I just made a dumb mistake due to lack of sleep, I clicked twinkle XfD to put in a deletion vote, instead of editing the page due to lack of sleep and nominated the AfD page for deletion. See [4]. I cleaned everything up but the MfD page. I CSD'd it, if you could possibly delete it. I'm off to sleep now. Sorry for the dumb mistake.

Hope things are well. Best wishes from Los Angeles,  // Timothy :: talk  11:09, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

No problem Happens to the best of us. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 11:23, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

Paid Editing

--NatalyaMARCOM (talk) 17:11, 9 March 2021 (UTC) Hi, I am trying to contribute to the "Lone Star College System" page and update it with new information. Since I am an employee of that company I am trying to follow the Wiki paid editing policy and disclose the required information. It is hard to follow the instructions, and I need more directions. In instructions it says: "You should post the disclosure at the top of article talk pages as follows:

." I am not trying to create a new article or new page, just edit the existing one that has an outdated information. Should I still use the format in instructions? Please advise. Thanks.

@NatalyaMARCOM: Please place on the talk page any page you edit for which you meet paid. For instance, Talk:Lone Star College System, filling in the blanks. Hope that helps. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 18:50, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

--NatalyaMARCOM (talk) 19:02, 9 March 2021 (UTC)Do I also have to place it when I editing the source?

@NatalyaMARCOM: Any edit to any connected page. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 19:03, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

User:Peaceofcak3managment

Hello, Deepfriedokra,

I'm not sure why you put a broken redirect on this blocked user page. It came up on one of the error lists so I deleted it since it pointed to a nonexistent page. But I couldn't figure out why you placed it there so I thought I'd post a query on your talk page. Thanks. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 22:12, 14 March 2021 (UTC)

@Liz:self renamed user after user name block mistakenly accused if socking. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 22:52, 14 March 2021 (UTC)

Creating a Page

Hello, I am brand new to this Wikipedia site and I was about to create a page for this new famed actor named Joey Ambrosini. It said that page was created but deleted. Maybe something must have happened in the past, I don't know haha. I just wanted to join this site to contribute and create. I have reliable sources to create from sites like IMDb and articles from Deadline Hollywood. Just wanted to keep you in the loop that all my contributions are things that are sourced and that I am not connected to. Just here to have fun and be legit. Thanks so much and looking forward to being the newcomer. But yeah, the page will be submitted for review. Hope things can work out. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Firebird96 (talk • contribs) 06:38, 15 March 2021 (UTC) −

@Firebird96: Thank you for helping to build Wikipedia. Unfortunately, IMDB is not WP:reliable source as its content is user edited. I doubt that Deadline Hollywood coverage is sufficient to meet the inclusion requirements for an an actor. You might want to see this discussion with the article's previous creator. You might read all on that page about this subject-- it's a set of examples of what not to do. I see you have already created the draft. Best --Deepfriedokra (talk) 07:23, 15 March 2021 (UTC)

@Deepfriedokra: Hey, how are you? So what I did was put the person's IMDb as external link. But I also put Deadline as a reference as well as horror news because both are huge press medias. Especially Deadline is the biggest news press. But worse comes to worse, it gets declined but I really hope not. I'm sure as the time goes by, it can get more grand with more references. But again, I'm brand new to this haha. I appreciate the quick response by the way.

Draft Request for Deletion

@Deepfriedokra: Hello, so in our previous discussions, I mentioned how my research was a long process but it had seemed to get very little info. I requested for Joey Ambrosini to be deleted. Maybe one of these days when it is more Wikipedia material, it will be put up again haha. I also took a look at the previous reason for when it was supposedly removed. That was nuts haha. Seemed very argumentative of the person who created the page the first time. But good for you guys for doing the right thing. I have seen what this site is about. Nobody deserves a page. It just has to come to them. Like it will probably one day come to the Joey Ambrosini individual. But yes, perhaps we can have the draft removed ASAP. Until then, I will explore pages and contribute. Excited for the new submissions!!

Edit war and vandalism - Political Journalist - Page Protection needed

Hello Deepfriedokra,

There’s a potential edit war starting up on the page of a prominent Australian political journalist, who has been covering a major scandal in Canberra. A group on Twitter dislike his coverage of it. They’ve been vandalising his Wikipedia page in order to make people think he’s been fired. I’ve undone the vandalism and strengthened his biography with further verified citations, however the group on Twitter have now stated that they’re going to engage in an edit war, based on the vandalism I’ve corrected. I have screenshots of this, including of an individual with 40,000+ followers gloating about the vandalism and advocating for an edit war. You should be able to see which journalist if you check my contributions. His page may need to be temporarily protected.

Regards, CanberraCamper

--CanberraCamper (talk) 13:08, 15 March 2021 (UTC)

Oh dear. Blockkg does not deter them

This diff shows that they will insert this ordure anywhere they can, even when blocked. Is that sufficient to remove talk page privleges? Fiddle Faddle 22:04, 15 March 2021 (UTC)

@Timtrent: toujours de l'audace It would be better if someone else did that so as not to give the appearance of one bully admin bullying some poor new user. I only saw "ordure" once before, in a novel by Glenn Cook. It has such a nice, smooth, inoffensive French sound to it. Though German "Müll" isn't bad either, German "Kacke" is just painful to hear. All those clashing "k" sounds. Namaste. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 23:29, 15 March 2021 (UTC)

You have a point. I like the word ordure. It seems so inoffensive. Fiddle Faddle 23:36, 15 March 2021 (UTC)

Various people from a specific country are vandalising

Hi! The Wikipedia page on Road Safety World Series is in a severe problem at the moment. The page is about a cricket tournament. Yesterday, a decision was taken by the authorities organising the tournament, which has angered many people, especially people from Sri Lanka. As a result, they are constantly vandalising the page either by calling India cheaters or moving Sri Lanka up the points table. What should be done in this scenario? GHSINGH (talk) 03:21, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

@GHSINGH:Please report at WP:RfPP. Thanks, --Deepfriedokra (talk) 10:03, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

Happy St. Patrick's Day

Happy St. Patrick's Day! I hope your St. Patrick's Day is enjoyable and safe. Hopefully next year there will be more festive celebrations. Best wishes from Los Angeles.   // Timothy :: talk

UTRS appeal #40991

UTRS appeal #40991

The AN discussion was closed at 03:30, 4 March 2021. Time for declining and bamming? JBW (talk) 22:38, 17 March 2021 (UTC)

@JBW: Already done. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 02:37, 18 March 2021 (UTC)

"Deepfriedokra 2021-03-04 03:45:33 Unfortunately, your CBAN appeal has been declined per the discussion at removal request of Bus stop. Also, a consensus of UTRS reviewers agree that you will be banned from UTRS for six months. It is recommended that you edit constructively on other Wikipedia sites and/or Wikimedia projects during that time, and then request the Standard Offer. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Standard_offer). See you then. Best," --Deepfriedokra (talk) 02:39, 18 March 2021 (UTC)

Well, I am bewildered. I very carefully checked immediately before posting my message above, and I saw no sign of your having closed the appeal. I can only assume I was looking at some sort of cached version of the page. Oh well... JBW (talk) 19:15, 18 March 2021 (UTC)

@JBW: Many of us find UTRS bewildering. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 19:18, 18 March 2021 (UTC)

Notification of Dispute Resolution

Please note I have now taken the discussion at RuPaul's Drag Race UK (series 2) to Dispute resolution. Spa-Franks (talk) 01:01, 19 March 2021 (UTC)

Rangeblock requested

Thanks for blocking the anime vandal at 223.238.114.35; any way you can extend that to a rangeblock? They've been doing the same on a variety of shifting IP addresses - see for instance 223.238.117.25, which is obviously the same user. Thanks! PohranicniStraze (talk) 19:11, 20 March 2021 (UTC)

@PohranicniStraze: Range calculator gave a /21, but that had collateral damage, as did /22. I'll look at smaller range blocks. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 19:14, 20 March 2021 (UTC)

Thanks! Looking back at the pages, they've been using a variety of IPs. If they pop back up later I guess requesting page protection for the affected pages will be the right path forward; it looks like they may be editing their favorite or least favorite anime pages to make them look better or worse, respectively. PohranicniStraze (talk) 19:17, 20 March 2021 (UTC)

Personal attack

Hello, this user is continously harrasing me.[5] Even though I asked him politely to leave my talk page, he is not ready to leave. I had already reported this at ANI and to Oshwah. But no one is rsponding. Please have a look. Regards Kichu🐘 ^{Need any help?} 22:01, 20 March 2021 (UTC)

Deletion of Draft:NationOne Academy

I am not sure how to object to the deletion of the Draft:NationOne Academy. It was draft for the reason as we used another wiki article as a template so that we could build upon. We are slowly adding content and making changes before we are ready to publish. Is there a way to undelete the page? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ashneetgujral (talk • contribs) 00:35, 21 March 2021 (UTC)

@Ashneetgujral: You just did! I reviewed it, and the truly promotional material was added by an unregistered user. I will restore the edits before that, and you can take it from there. We will see. Best. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 00:42, 21 March 2021 (UTC)

Will you get a grip?

Maybe you need a vacation. EEng 15:10, 21 March 2021 (UTC)

eh. One does not het a vacation from senility. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 15:12, 21 March 2021 (UTC)

The IP from earlier is back

Hello. You told me to tell you if I ever see a personal attack on WP. Well I have from this IP address. Link20XX (talk) 04:12, 22 March 2021 (UTC)

@Link20XX: Fastily blocked 27.56.0.0/17. That should do it. Will revdel. --Deepfriedokra (talk)!

List of radio stations in Cebu

You placed the List of radio stations in Cebu article under the Pending Changes protection on November 28, 2017 (apprently with no specified expiration date). It seems that the article has remained under the PC protection since then. Could you please unprotect the article now? Per the WP:PCPP policy, "Indefinite PC protection should be used only in cases of severe long-term disruption", and that's not really the case here. Looking at the article history for the last three months, I don't see any vandalism edit attempts there, and no issues with BLP or copyright violations. I don't think the article qualifies for PC protection now. Thanks, Nsk92 (talk) 12:33, 22 March 2021 (UTC)

@Nsk92:  Done --Deepfriedokra (talk) 14:14, 22 March 2021 (UTC)

OK, thanks! Nsk92 (talk) 14:33, 22 March 2021 (UTC)

Tertiary color

There is an edit war going on in the article regarding OR additions. I have requested this at WP:RPP, but to this day, there are actions taken regarding that page. MarioJump83! 00:35, 24 March 2021 (UTC)

Already protected by administrator Acroterion. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 00:41, 24 March 2021 (UTC)

There seems to be a spat between colorspace system fanboys - an only on Wikipedia kind of argument. Acroterion (talk) 00:44, 24 March 2021 (UTC)

Thanks! MarioJump83! 00:46, 24 March 2021 (UTC)

Some help with vandals, please

Multiple active disruptions, with no assistance at AIV. Thanks, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 02:55, 24 March 2021 (UTC)

She Doesn't Mean Harm

Hey I've Heard You've Block A Friend Of Mine And I Also Heard Of What Nakita Kelley Did And I Had A Hard Talk With Her And She Doesn't Mean Any Harm She's Just Hot Headed So I Asked Can You Please Unblock Nakita Kelley If You Don't Do It For Her Then Please Do It For The People In The IP Address They Don't Deserve To Be Block Because Of Somebody Else's Mistakes Personally I Would Give Her One More Chance To See What She'll Do But That's MeSupaPower2 (talk) 06:15, 24 March 2021 (UTC)

Nice try. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 11:36, 24 March 2021 (UTC)

... by Fall Out Boy? DanCherek (talk) 18:11, 26 March 2021 (UTC)

@DanCherek: Oh, very much so. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 18:14, 26 March 2021 (UTC)

Precious anniversary

Precious

One year!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:29, 26 March 2021 (UTC)

Block this IP

Please block 96.242.41.215 because of vandalistic behaviour of Canaan dog with removing unsourced content. My request in AIV has doesn't responded. 36.77.93.241 (talk) 23:46, 26 March 2021 (UTC)

SAO movie Edit

I'm very sorry I dunno how those character appeared. I only intended to put the . there. :( LetsPlayNintendoITA (talk) 11:53, 27 March 2021 (UTC)

Accusation of socking

you wrote:

Say, you do know that constitutes a personal attack? Perhaps you could strike and apologize?] --Deepfriedokra (talk) 13:22, 27 March 2021 (UTC)

Don't post on my talk page again. Keep it in the article page.

@El C and Bonadea: I am noting the failed attempt to remedy this issue short of ANI. You see here the result. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 13:32, 27 March 2021 (UTC)

@Infinitepeace: This is not an article content issue. This is a user conduct issue. Have it your way. @El C and Bonadea: fix pings --Deepfriedokra (talk) 13:35, 27 March 2021 (UTC)

Cool. Now I do not need to report at ANI. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 14:04, 27 March 2021 (UTC)

Blocked IP abusing talk page

Hello, sorry to bother you. IP 92.0.45.43 (talk · contribs · WHOIS), who is currently blocked, is repeatedly abusing their talk page : Special:Diff/1014520328, Special:Diff/1014520986, Special:Diff/1014521452, Special:Diff/1014523105, Special:Diff/1014523310. Can you perhaps take a look? Thank you. --Ashleyyoursmile! 15:58, 27 March 2021 (UTC)

Thank you very much. :) Ashleyyoursmile! 16:01, 27 March 2021 (UTC)

Need your help

I need your help, can you please help me get my Wikipedia page appoved Nankwe Hassan (talk) 20:27, 27 March 2021 (UTC)

Need your help

Hello I hope you are doing good. I created a page on Wp couple of days’s before which was deleted before due to some socket puppetry issue, I recreated the page Mutahir Showkat and did modification in it there, there are some WP users who are trying to create the mess in this page by saying that I’m connected to this person, which isn’t true as I don’t know this person personally I just know him via news sources but there are some users who had gathered together and are trying to put this page down I mean to say they are doing campaigns regarding this page to get it deleted please help me out please. For more please check talk page Talk:Mutahir Showkat Nurupa (talk) 23:28, 27 March 2021 (UTC)

@Nurupa: I'm about to !vote delete at the AfD. If you are a WP:sock puppet evading your block, or coordinating edits off Wiki, I should block you. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 23:37, 27 March 2021 (UTC)

Worth noting that Nurupa is already walking a tightrope as they have already been confirmed to have used two accounts to try to stack keep votes at the Showkat AfD as per Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Nurupa and Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Hums4r. The last investigation at Hums4r probably needs to be moved to the Nurupa SPI but I have no idea of the correct way of doing that and don't want to mess the formatting up. Since the AfD is coming to a close soon, I'm keeping a close eye on whether more socks pop up. There was also some appalling sockpuppetry by Nurupa at the now-deleted Cake Town Banihal, which was coordinated with the now-confirmed sock User:Pkdolly001. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 11:32, 28 March 2021 (UTC)

@Spiderone: Don't know why he is not blocked, but I'll let the SPI clerks take care of it. They'll move the case too. Thanks for making this all possible. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 12:28, 28 March 2021 (UTC)

2600:1700:3B10:2960:0:0:0:0/64

Can you extend their rangeblock from only Cartoon Network to everything? All of their edits since have been complete nonsense and it's clear they're NOTHERE. Thank you. Nate • (chatter) 02:51, 28 March 2021 (UTC)

 Done --Deepfriedokra (talk) 02:56, 28 March 2021 (UTC)

Thank you very much. Nate • (chatter) 03:38, 28 March 2021 (UTC)

Impersonation

Hello, sorry to bother you again. I noticed that you blocked Yemlu yesterday for impersonating admin Yamla. They are back again as Yamliu. --Ashleyyoursmile! 07:24, 28 March 2021 (UTC)

Thank you very much for the block. :) Ashleyyoursmile! 07:43, 28 March 2021 (UTC)

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incorrect corrections

Mr or Ms Deepfried okra.

I was alerted to a fasle "early life" reference that was either created by you or reverted to by you multiple times. While the wikipedia page that is created does not really reflect the full or even a partial scope of my history or work, that is not for me to determine, however I cannot allow demonstrably false narrative, unfortunately based on a very much older gentleman's incorrect newspaper article.

I make reference to the notion that I "grew up in a Yiddish speaking home" and the "my first entrance into showbiz was singing a song on the stage from Shver Tzu Zain a Yid. and another, that perhaps is removed is that my father is a Holocaust survivor. To be factual, which is important: my father left Poland in 1937. While much of his family remained and perished, my father is not a "survivor"by any standard that we address such terms. He was in North America before the war began and besides the loss of relative did not suffer hardship and did not "survive the Holocaust" as we understand it. That is a specific honor and one must never lessen the meaning of that.

Mr. Tugend in his article for the Jewish Journal, unfortunately erred on the side of being excited about details, and unfortunately jumbled them. Mr. Tugend is one of the dearest individuals I have ever spoken with, however when that interview took place he was in his nineties, and perhaps some things became mixed up in his notes. I never "entered showbiz" by singing a song on a stage. My first stage performance was a pianist at eleven years old playing works by Beethoven. I did appear much later (when I was 15 and 16) with the Yiddish Theatre of Montreal, however this was following my early appearances as a pianist. And I never appeared in the play "Shver Tzu Zain a Yid." The plays I appeared in alongside my piano performances were different. In fact, no Shver Tzu Zain a Yid was produced, or selected from during my brief two years in various plays. I did sing the song Papirossn as a child, but certainly not as an entrance to "showbiz"

I would appreciate the correction as it is unfortunately incorrect, and i do not wish to be credited (even in a positive manner) for things I never did. Thank you.

Hershey Felder — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.55.134.1 (talk) 11:46, 29 March 2021 (UTC)

We have to follow WP:RS. Please discuss on the article talk page. Please see Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons/Help. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 13:32, 29 March 2021 (UTC)

P block/move warring?

Saw your comment - does a partial block from article space not prevent someone moving a draft into article space? I assumed it would - feels like it ought to, is that a design flaw or something? Thanks for the assist anyway! GirthSummit _(blether) 14:43, 30 March 2021 (UTC) @Girth Summit: Thanks for doing what I was too tired to do. Yes, I guess last week I article space blocked only to find they could still move their er, "stuff" into article space. It came as quite a surprise. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 14:46, 30 March 2021 (UTC)

Sit in salon!

Poor Ched! have some Okra!

Have some frog cakes instead!

[Bishzilla pleased with the little Fritter for appreciation of superclerking. Sticks him in pocket, listens for tiny yelps, nods.] Sit in Victorian salon, below portrait of Alfred Lord Tennisball! Ignore fragrance of MONGO! Feel free raid fridge! bishzilla _ROARR!! pocket 15:18, 30 March 2021 (UTC).

[little Chedzilla voice meek rrRAWR] Chedzilla happy but sad too. Finally get new fridge today after 2 and a half weeks of &&^%($# Bu!!$h**) ... but did not come with food. Beg honorable Bishzilla for a few tiny morsels to stock new fridge with. — ChedZILLA 16:43, 30 March 2021 (UTC)

forget manners. Honorable Bishzilla - please? — ChedZILLA 16:45, 30 March 2021 (UTC)

[Bishzilla looks dubiously at the okra. Not nearly as delicious-looking as she anticipated. Decisively:] Have some frog cakes, Ched! bishzilla _ROARR!! pocket 23:45, 30 March 2021 (UTC).

ooooooooo. Frog cakes! --Deepfriedokra (talk) 00:22, 31 March 2021 (UTC)

@Daniel: Have some! Bishzilla is a gracious host. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 00:43, 1 April 2021 (UTC)

A brownie for you!

For running down a dozens of revdels in only a minute or so ;-) Have a nice day, CommanderWaterford (talk) 10:30, 31 March 2021 (UTC)

Safavids are not Kurds. this is a lie invented by Iranian historians

Ahmad Kasravi conducted research on Sheikh Safiaddin and assumed that he was a Kurd, but could not prove it. The native language of the Safavids is Turkish. The Safavids considered themselves Turkmen. In his works, Shah Ismail considered himself a Turkmen-Qizilbash shah. He did not provide any information about his relations with the Kurds. Sheikh Zahid (Kurdish) used to call his disciple Sheikh Safiaddin "O piri-Turk". He called Sheikh Safiaddin a Turk Qoçaq (talk) 13:31, 31 March 2021 (UTC)

Asura

I'm here to talk about the Asura page, which you have protected. I don't know why, the other two editor is saying I've removed the information, even though I really don't, I've many times told them this. Instead, they are the one who are removing existing sources and images and the sources which I added. Earlier there was one, then he called his friend to discuss, Assuming good faith, I suppose, it was not for putting more pressure on me. Their demand is to set Hinduism primary(not my assumption, but there own statements) on the page(which seems to be POV pushing than mine, as they said, what I demanding is having equal status to both). They are also of the view that Hindu comes first before Buddhism, I've many times adviced them that this is not also generqalisation or any guideline, as they did in first para. And now, why I don't know, but saying that I've removed the information, in fact I'm not removing a single sentence, as I've cleared,instead they are removing stuff and other things. I've just rearranged the section as per other similar broad-concept article, where, the sections of different views comes at last. That's what I edited now, but they are reverting it and deleting the souces images and other sources, even after asking for reason they said, you deleted information and just reverting again and again, with no one of them properly discussing on talk page. In one earlier discussion in Disambiguation talk page of Wikipedia, it was the conclusion to add more Buddhist information to the page, to make it more broad concept looking article, which I added, but they think there's already an different Buddhist article why are you adding Budddhist information here. But it was broadconcept article, not only for Hindu views, From this point of their's I also suggested them that if they wish to have special Hindu article, they can make one another Hindu article then, but they didn't agree. They are also deleting images, information and delete some information because it was unsourced, instead of adding source, which for that information there were many sources available, I'm assuming good faith,so I assume it was not deleted only because the information and images were Buddhist. When I ask tthem for reasons for reverting, they just say that it's not their favor. One editor is just reverting discussing nothing on talk page on discussion which I had to start, even thoughthey were the one who disagrees. The other one is just saying Make Hinduism Primary. I've also suggested them many times to let's resolve the disputes on Administrators noticeboard, but no one is responding. I ask you to go through the revision history and talk page and earlier discussion on Wikipedia disambiguation talk page and please guide me what I can do more to deal in such cases. You can also give your independent view in the resolution or please guide me for dealing with such cases Thank You So Much. JaMongKut (talk) 05:40, 1 April 2021 (UTC)

@JaMongKut: Thank you for helping to build Wikipedia. The page was protected per a request at WP:RfPP as there was edit warring. I do not involve mtself in content disputes. Please discuss content and sourcing on the talk page. You might seek a third opinion from members of the WikiProjects the article is of interest to. Best, --Deepfriedokra (talk) 09:53, 1 April 2021 (UTC)

ThankYou So Much. I can understand your situation. Nice to talk to you.JaMongKut (talk) 14:17, 3 April 2021 (UTC)

Why did you add page protection to List of Starship flights

You added protection to List of Starship flights. Why? Please explain on my talk page. I would like you to remove the protection. 64.121.103.144 (talk) 19:24, 1 April 2021 (UTC)

I replied here --Deepfriedokra (talk) 19:42, 1 April 2021 (UTC)

Courtesy ping @Jrcraft Yt: Link to RfPP request --Deepfriedokra (talk) 19:42, 1 April 2021 (UTC)

Block template change for Ssjhowarthisawesome

Please change {{sock|Endingsesame}} to {{Blockedsock|Endingsesame}} on the User:Ssjhowarthisawesome page because Fastily has blocked the account. 2601:584:180:3D80:5DA1:C495:3AB4:56C1 (talk) 00:19, 2 April 2021 (UTC)

Might want to leave that for the SPI clerk. Up to my elbows in alligators. Will look later. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 00:20, 2 April 2021 (UTC)

Not mine, probably Fastily should decide --Deepfriedokra (talk) 00:31, 2 April 2021 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

		The Defender of the Wiki Barnstar
		for blocking that massive swarm of attack names. Although I no longer have the ability to contribute normally, I continue to watch malicious users be thwarted by others. 2603:6011:E00:472:301B:7C39:7CB5:7561 (talk) 01:46, 2 April 2021 (UTC)

Thanks, --Deepfriedokra (talk) 01:51, 2 April 2021 (UTC)

Reverting disruptive edits Evergreen, Memphis

Hey @Deepfriedokra, I have reverted disruptive edits from the block user Bryson Johnson who is currently related to Romello Brooks. These edits were recorded back on October 19, 2020, and once an admin block the user, the admin forgot to revert the edits, so I had reverted the edits for the admin. Have a nice day! 73.91.135.193 (talk) 03:06, 2 April 2021 (UTC)

Page edit

Hi @DeepFriedOkra, I see that you have protected “Raheem Sterling”’s page from edits and would like to bring it to your attention that a consensus was created and discussed on the talk page for his correct nationality. Based on this, it is strongly suggested that his biography be updated to either “Jamaican professional footballer based in England” or just “professional footballer” with no nationality attached, due to the fact that no form of England citizenship can be sourced for Sterling and he still has strong connection and ties to his Jamaican homeland. Please review this information. Thank you Voice4People (talk) 17:52, 2 April 2021 (UTC)

Re: My username

Hi Deepfriedokra, I had a question for you, since you’re an administrator. It’s about my username. I understand that HelenDegenerate sounds like Ellen DeGeneres, so I hope that my username doesn’t sound like I’m trying to impersonate her. I wasn’t even thinking of her when I created my account. HelenDegenerate is based off a joke that someone in my family made. I’m not violating the username policy, am I?

  PS. I’m not looking to change my name unless it’s absolutely necessary.
  Thank you. HelenDegenerate (talk) 20:15, 2 April 2021 (UTC)

@HelenDegenerate: Thanks, no. It does not look like impersonation. We have a user named TheGracefulSlick, which is homage of Grace Slick. A case might be made for disparaging Ms DeGeneres, but if no one has raised the issue I would not worry about it. It could also reference degenerate matter or be personally self deprecating humor or a general comment on society in general. Or even plausibly a reference to Helen of Troy. Wait. Did someone ask you to change your user name? Best --Deepfriedokra (talk) 20:24, 2 April 2021 (UTC)

hi again, it’s Helen

Hi Deepfriedokra, thanks for your concern, but no, nobody has asked me to change it. I was just curious since last night, I reported a user for violating the username policy, and I saw the rule about impersonation. That’s why I asked. :) HelenDegenerate (talk) 20:27, 2 April 2021 (UTC)

No problem Cool. Stay safe. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 20:28, 2 April 2021 (UTC)

Potential Disruptive Editing/ Edit warring on List of Starship flights

Hello, User:64.121.103.144 has been removing information/reverting other editors edits on List of Starship flights. They claim "I am reverting because there was a dispute resolution request sent to Wikipedia. The dispute was resolved. The outcome was a decison to remove the Landing Outcome column completely." (this was them reverting me, I had left them a warning for unexplained content removal. They again removed the information/changed it. I had no idea this was about the consensus). However on closer look it appears as though they are actually changing the table to their opinion in regards to a new discussion (see here). There opinion is "I think that the Landing Outcome column should be all together removed. Maybe it could be replaced by whether it exploded or not?". This is also what the table is being changed too by them. I am unsure of how to proceed and would appreciate your help. Thanks E.Wright1852 (talk) 20:44, 2 April 2021 (UTC)

@E.Wright1852: You might report them at WP:EWN. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 21:04, 2 April 2021 (UTC)

Thank you User:Deepfriedokra I have decided not to report the user. I found that they were told by another editor that it can lead to getting blocked if they continue. Thanks E.Wright1852 (talk) 21:37, 2 April 2021 (UTC)

List of Starship flights

Would it be possible to change the level of protection of the page from pending changes to semi-protected? It appears that edits by the 64. editor are getting approved and reverted, and I think that they are disruptive edits. Robert McClenon (talk) 21:13, 3 April 2021 (UTC)

@Robert McClenon: Thanks, I'll take a look. Best, --Deepfriedokra (talk) 21:59, 3 April 2021 (UTC)

 Done --Deepfriedokra (talk) 22:07, 3 April 2021 (UTC)

About The Graceful Slick

Hi again Deepfriedokra, since you mentioned them, I just looked up the user TheGracefulSlick. Not sure if that’s the best role model for new users, lol. TheGracefulSlick was banned indefinitely for abusing multiple accounts... You made your point though. Thank you once again. HelenDegenerate (talk) 01:02, 3 April 2021 (UTC)

Great Ghu! missed that! --Deepfriedokra (talk) 02:13, 3 April 2021 (UTC)

Eggs

That's very egg-sistential --Deepfriedokra (talk) 16:02, 5 April 2021 (UTC)

A sock puppet investigation.

Hello Deepfriedokra, it’s me again. Helen. I am messaging you in regards to a sock puppet investigation I had to open. Right now I’m looking for an administrator to help me run a Checkuser, and if the accounts are found to be puppets, to block them. I would be incredibly grateful if you could lend your services. The name of the user being investigated is Reiksnza; there’s a whole page open about this inquiry, created by your truly. Once again, I would love your assistance. Thanks, HelenDegenerate (talk) 03:33, 7 April 2021 (UTC)

@HelenDegenerate: Thanks. I'll take a look. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 06:30, 7 April 2021 (UTC)

@HelenDegenerate: You might want to file a report at WP:COIN. They look to be trying to promote that one subject. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 06:52, 7 April 2021 (UTC)

Assistance

Hello, can you have a look at this [6] and respond to my CSD request. Its been 2 days and no admins have responded so far. Regards Kichu🐘 ^{Need any help?} 07:48, 7 April 2021 (UTC)

@Kashmorwiki: I'm afraid it does not meet my criteria for WP:G11. You might want to try it at WP:AFD - --Deepfriedokra (talk) 07:52, 7 April 2021 (UTC)

Oops

I just reverted an IP ranting in all caps about being blocked - assumed it was block evasion, but on closer inspection their block had expired. Don't feel like putting that stuff back on your talk though - it's there in the history, sorry for knee-jerk reverting. GirthSummit _(blether) 17:34, 8 April 2021 (UTC)

The IP's complaint of blocking may have been because the high school article is semi-protected. I was going to advise the IP to use the article talk page to discuss the dispute. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 17:43, 8 April 2021 (UTC)

Specifically, Talk: Wheeler High School (Georgia). Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 17:46, 8 April 2021 (UTC)

If memory serves, they were adding content about Gen. Wheeler on the article about the High School and were edit warring to include unsourced content. If memory serves, we have an article about the general and that is where sourced content about him should be. I also have no problem at all with them complaining on my talk page and feel they should be unblocked. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 18:01, 8 April 2021 (UTC)

@Jayron32: I think we can unblock them. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 18:08, 8 April 2021 (UTC)

The IP's main complaint is that the description of Wheeler in the high school article mentioned only that he was a Confederate general but not that he was later a long serving member of the U.S. Congress and a combat general in the U.S. Army. That is a reasonable point, in my view. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 18:09, 8 April 2021 (UTC)

 Done. Carry on. --Jayron32 18:17, 8 April 2021 (UTC)

Thank you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1700:8190:7EE0:0:0:0:22 (talk) 18:18, 8 April 2021 (UTC)

Deepfriedokra, Do you think I should not add the edit I was discussing with you about General Wheeler's complete resume should be part of the consideration. There are many in fact that do not want the name of our Wheeler high school changed. Thank you and I was in no way trying to be disruptive or disrespectful.

Oh, thanks for reminding me! This is at the heart of the reasons for my block. You are campaigning to stop the renaming of the high school by adding good things about General Wheeler to the article about the school. That does not serve the purpose of building the encyclopedia. All that content, if reliably sourced, should be in an article about General Wheeler. The article about the high school should have content about the high school. My political views have no place on Wikipedia. I will not take any position on the renaming of the high school. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 20:41, 8 April 2021 (UTC)

Oh, adding what Jayron wrote above would be good. Pretty much as written. If memory serves, he fought for the US in the Spanish American War. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 20:44, 8 April 2021 (UTC)

Coff: it was Cullen328 who wrote that stuff...GirthSummit _(blether) 21:39, 8 April 2021 (UTC)

There's so many people in and out of this place it needs a revolving door. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 01:50, 10 April 2021 (UTC)

Thank you for your input and advice. Those minor edits will be good. TheTruthRocks (talk) 00:21, 9 April 2021 (UTC)

Deepfriedokra - I made those minor edits and cited the sources and not to long this time. It is more complete and accurate and shows there are many on both sides of the issue. It says pending review on minor edit. Thanks TheTruthRocks (talk) 20:02, 9 April 2021 (UTC)

Request

Is it possible you could hide the edits of my talk page and user page reflecting my rename from their respective edit histories? Thank you for the move, by the way. --BananaYesterday (talk) 20:01, 8 April 2021 (UTC)--2601:281:CC01:2320:4F8:3A33:A4E0:5857 (talk) 20:00, 8 April 2021 (UTC)

@BananaYesterday:  Done. I think. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 20:49, 8 April 2021 (UTC)

User taking revenge

Hello, I would like to report user Bursubba to you who is taking revenge on other users. I wanted to let you know so that you can warn them personally so that I dont need to go to ANI. See this page history [7]. I added a notability tag to the article which they later reverted without explanation. So I gave them a notice on their talk page regarding this. As a response against it, this user added notability tag in some of the articles I created. See [8] [9] [10] [11] [12]. One of the article Kiran Khongsai in this list is a former Indian National footballer!! It is clearly evident the user is taking things personally as they has already a history of taking revenge on others. See[13].And whem I asked about them regarding this, see their reply [14]. They says it is to teach me morale! Please take necessary actions. Regards Kichu🐘 ^{Need any help?} 16:22, 10 April 2021 (UTC)

You are talking revenge on me. Am reporting to you too. @bursubba (talk) 16:23, 10 April 2021 (UTC)

Bursubba, if you think that im taking revenge on you, please prove it with evidence. Without doing so and claiming that Im taking revenge on you is considered as personal attack, which will make things even worse. Regards. Kichu🐘 ^{Need any help?} 16:35, 10 April 2021 (UTC)

User(s) blocked. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 16:37, 10 April 2021 (UTC)

Please report further problems to ANI --Deepfriedokra (talk) 16:38, 10 April 2021 (UTC)

Some bubble tea for you!

For holding down the fort at UAA and lightning-quick blocks, as well as your comments at ANI during the Lonsdale kerfuffle, I bestow a refreshing drink of bubble tea! Sdrqaz (talk) 17:41, 11 April 2021 (UTC)

Legal threat

Hello again. See [15]. This user is threatening me legally. See this [16] [17] Please warn them properly. They are not stopping and has started vandalising my talk page now [18]. Regards Kichu🐘 ^{Need any help?} 09:29, 12 April 2021 (UTC)

@Kashmorwiki: Please give me a link to the user. I cannot read posts made using a phone. These matters are best dealt with at ANI. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 09:34, 12 April 2021 (UTC)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Chatarpatar2020 Kichu🐘 ^{Need any help?} 09:40, 12 April 2021 (UTC)

I came to you because you helped me several times before. Im sorry if Im being a disturbance to you. Kichu🐘 ^{Need any help?} 09:41, 12 April 2021 (UTC)

• @Kashmorwiki: User blocked. DS alerted for IPA. Posted to ANI. (Still drinking my coffee. Responses may be delayed when I sleep, eat, exercise . . . .) --Deepfriedokra (talk) 09:50, 12 April 2021 (UTC)

So is your daily routine like eat, sleep, exercise and wiki:) That was a very quick response. Whenever I come to your talk page, I get a quicker response. Kichu🐘 ^{Need any help?} 09:53, 12 April 2021 (UTC)

So is your daily routine like eat, sleep, exercise and wiki:) That was a very quick response. Whenever I come to your talk page, I get a quicker response. Kichu🐘 ^{Need any help?} 09:53, 12 April 2021 (UTC)

HLC BRAND

Could I ask what prompted you to make this name change? Whilst a name change would make sense, but I can't see anything in their editing history to show they requested it, or of you communicating with them that you'd made that change. I'm a bit bemused how it came about. Thanks, Nick Moyes (talk) 20:31, 13 April 2021 (UTC)

@Nick Moyes: Certainly. They requested on Meta. "Reason I am requesting a name change for my accounts because I think my current username is being misconstrued as an orgization (sic) and I wish to avoid any issue contributing to wiki.] Seemed like it would save misunderstanding and avoid bad appearances. Personally, I feel requests like that should be made locally. As it is, we have three venues that I know about. The request queue on Meta that I patrol ,and the one that goes to the Stewards. In addition to the processes here. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 22:06, 13 April 2021 (UTC)

I used to avoid the meta requests, but the emails we get practically demand that we all help. (sigh) --Deepfriedokra (talk) 22:08, 13 April 2021 (UTC)

Ok, thank you. I'm not authorised to view that page, nor could I see anything in their global contributions. I was beginning to think I was either stupid, or going totally ga-ga. Thanks for the explanation. Nick Moyes (talk) 22:15, 13 April 2021 (UTC)

(talk page watcher) I've seen (or rather, not seen) the same problem. It seems strange that those are hidden, in contrast to WP:CHU and other archives here. There may be occasional privacy concerns, but not for every request. BlackcurrantTea (talk) 21:14, 15 April 2021 (UTC)

I thought the records were public. It's a meta thing. I don't understand either. I mean only renamers can rename, but why can't anyone else see the request? --Deepfriedokra (talk) 23:21, 15 April 2021 (UTC)

The links that are sometimes left in a record of a name change (e.g. as you did here) are to the renamers' / stewards' queue. If there were a record to link to, such as this one, that would be helpful, and indeed, I see the renamer did that. But that's no good if the request were never posted publicly, only in the queue. Hmmm. BlackcurrantTea (talk) 11:28, 16 April 2021 (UTC)

Additional sockpuppet

Not sure how to add a new user to an existing sockpuppet case, but this looks like another one in Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/NNEmergency - FPOS05 (talk⁺ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki) --10mmsocket (talk) 16:11, 19 April 2021 (UTC)

Ignore. Added to SPI case by Blablubbs. Sorry to trouble you. --10mmsocket (talk) 16:29, 19 April 2021 (UTC)

@10mmsocket: No trouble. User(s) blocked. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 17:10, 19 April 2021 (UTC)

A beer for you!

Or any other beverage of your choice, of course. Thanks for helping out at SPI – the place is always in need of more patrolling admins. On a sidenote, you may like this script, which allows you to block and tag socks selected socks automatically (as well as comment, change case status etc.), as opposed to having to do it manually. :) Blablubbs|talk 17:25, 19 April 2021 (UTC)

Makingheavenhard

Well, they'll always be User:Motherfukerdie to me! Bishonen | tålk 19:41, 20 April 2021 (UTC).

@Bishonen: LOL. (yes, really) I know, right? Maybe this is someone who should not edit stoned? --Deepfriedokra (talk) 19:46, 20 April 2021 (UTC)

Yeah, or I suppose one could put it down to frustration. Bishonen | tålk 19:52, 20 April 2021 (UTC).

Turkish spam links

Hello Deepfriedokra. Since there are thousands of admins on the English Wikipedia, I remember some of them just by username and one of them is you. That's why I want to ask you. I see some Turkish spam links today here and different wikis. I had marked for speedy deletion the some advertising, although it included no only spam link. And the admins deleted them. Today I've removed these from some pages completely. I have also marked only user pages with spam links for speedy deletion. Are these correct? Because now I see that before some administrators used to communicate according to pages' histories with these users but they didn't undo their edits or delete the pages. I wondered if there is a different process in English Wikipedia. Is it possible you make a explanation on this subject as an admin? Regards. Uncitoyen (talk) 10:14, 21 April 2021 (UTC)

@Uncitoyen: For specific instance you should ask the specific admins. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 16:21, 22 April 2021 (UTC)

Yesterday, different admins deleted all the pages that I marked. When I will able to face with this type of current example, it would be better to ask them. Thanks for your explation. Uncitoyen (talk) 19:16, 22 April 2021 (UTC)

I'm really sorry ..

pre turkey spam

... for the way my mind works ... but I can't help it sometimes. — Ched (talk) 22:59, 22 April 2021 (UTC)

Bloody Vikings --Deepfriedokra (talk) 02:31, 23 April 2021 (UTC)

OH? .. I loved the Monty Python stuff - but I had never thought of the spam => spam connection. Cool. — Ched (talk) 14:08, 23 April 2021 (UTC)

Block evasion by User:Mammooth

Thanks for your quick response to the edit warring at Proto-Indo-European homeland. Would you mind taking a look at this obvious block evasion by 188.255.60.194 (talk · contribs · WHOIS) and taking appropriate action? – Joe (talk) 15:17, 23 April 2021 (UTC)

@Joe Roe: Blocked by Favonian. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 20:49, 24 April 2021 (UTC)

A poorly-written article.

Hi Deepfriedokra, this is once again Helen. I had a question about maintenance tags. There is an article about a charity called The Asperger/Autism Network that appears to be written like an advertisement. Should I put a maintenance tag on it saying so? Thanks, HelenDegenerate (talk) 20:52, 24 April 2021 (UTC)

@HelenDegenerate: My reading comprehensive is not what it once was. CAPTAIN RAJU reviewed the thing and is a more capable reviewer than I. Let's ask. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 07:03, 25 April 2021 (UTC)

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2021 Storming of the United States Capitol

Hi, Deepfriedokra. In the 2021 Storming of the United States Capitol, users appears to be involve in edit warring between one user and another, for example one edit war involving Gbegler, Nettless, and Berchanhimez. Can you have a opinion about this, maybe full protect this page in order to prevent further content disputes between users. 36.77.94.14 (talk) 00:10, 27 April 2021 (UTC)

It does not need full protection simply because one editor is repeatedly edit warring against clear consensus - at most, it requires a block of that editor. -bɜ:ʳkənhɪmez (User/say hi!) 00:13, 27 April 2021 (UTC)

I definitely agree about this. Editors who have conduct edit warring about controversial issues should be blocked for edit a specific page, either via AE block, which will be temporarily, or usual block, which can be indefinite. 36.77.94.14 (talk) 00:30, 27 April 2021 (UTC)

Well, all righty then! If behavior issues are manifest, it would be quicker to report at the relevant noticeboard.Cheers, --Deepfriedokra (talk) 19:53, 27 April 2021 (UTC)

RFPP page

Hi Deepfriedokra, you respond to many request for article protection in RFPP page, because there is so much article that had request to be protected but no respond by any admin. Thanks. 182.1.6.250 (talk) 01:07, 28 April 2021 (UTC)

A little late. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 14:13, 28 April 2021 (UTC)

Creating an article

Great to see you again, Deepfriedokra. I was wondering if you could lend me your view on something. So I’m in the planning phase of creating my first article (pretty certain it meets notability guidelines). I’m going to write an article about Project Graham. Graham is a lifelike figure created by the Transport Accident Commission to show what a human would look like if we evolved to survive car accidents. Attracted lots of media attention. I’m not exactly sure if I should refer to him as a project, pice of artwork, or something else when I go to write the article header. What do you think? Thanks, HelenDegenerate (talk) 22:34, 30 April 2021 (UTC)

@HelenDegenerate: coffee deficiency Whatever the sources say would be a starting point. However, "is a lifelike figure created by the Transport Accident Commission to show what a human would look like if we evolved to survive car accidents," sounds like your topic sentence. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 09:43, 1 May 2021 (UTC)

@Deepfriedokra: Okay, I got a decent header sentence. Now the fun part is trying to figure out how I’m going to divide up the sections. I’m thinking a section about how Graham was created (as well as how long it took and the cost), as well as a section about his features (since I don’t have a photo). I would love any suggestions on what kinds of sections I should make. HelenDegenerate (talk) 17:44, 1 May 2021 (UTC)

User:AbbieGrainger79

Hi Deepfriedokra. Would you mind taking a look at AbbieGrainger79's user page? You deleted it once earlier today, but it was recreated. It was then deleted again by Anthony Bradbury, but it's been recreated yet again. I can't tell if it's the exact same content, but this NPA posted on JJMC89's user talk isn't a good sign that this user intends to be WP:HERE. -- Marchjuly (talk) 11:29, 1 May 2021 (UTC)

Tagged for deletion. User warned. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 13:24, 1 May 2021 (UTC)

They're vandalising articles, then immediately undoing the edits, leaving edit summaries which Google translates as 'BOOBAY IS SPREADING TAE' and 'I will fuck Boobay'. Obviously Wikipedia is distracting them from more important things. Puberty, perhaps. BlackcurrantTea (talk) 18:10, 1 May 2021 (UTC)

If the dumbass continues past my warning, needs a block. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 18:28, 1 May 2021 (UTC)

Conflict of interest

HI!

You sent me a note advising that I had a conflict of interest in the articles I've been editing. I work for a biottech patent licensing company. I haven't edited any articles in this space at all. Can you help? I'm new here - not sure where I've gone wrong! Is it the account name I'm using?

Best

(ERS marketing (talk) 07:38, 4 May 2021 (UTC))

The "marketing" company in your user name certainly gives rise to concern that you might be editing under a conflict of interest. If there is an off-Wiki connection between you and any edits, then it would be best to follow the instructions on your talk page. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 13:23, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

About that all-caps e-mail

Hi, I just wanted to apologize for the all-caps email I sent you a few days ago about unblocking my IP address. I was able to find a non-proxy address to edit from, and I won't be rude like that any more. Bemiston88 (talk) 16:31, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

@Bemiston88: No problem. I just figured it was someone phishing. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 17:55, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

Shocked! Shocked, I say! --Deepfriedokra (talk) 14:00, 5 May 2021 (UTC)

Be kind

A wiki-novice colleague of mine self-edited, was told not to, and didn't. I offered to help out (no force involved :-), and he got a scathing banishment. I was shocked at how unkind and impolite you were.

There is no reason to treat others with anything less than civility.

I don't know Wikipedia but I'm pretty sure this also goes against its guidelines regarding politeness and civility, especially towards the novice.

The Wikipedia project is beautiful and should remain so at all times.

Please be kind.

Please don't engage in sockpuppetry and block evasion. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 14:01, 5 May 2021 (UTC)

Assistance

Thanks for your help and prompt action. Ray Rudd at HawkesyardEstate (talk) 15:19, 6 May 2021 (UTC)

Marvel Cinematic Universe

Deepfriedokra, please full protect the article about Marvel Cinematic Universe temporarily because there are persistent edit warring between users, particularly Newtlamender, Rcarter555, and Jhenderson777 despite repeated warnings about it. One user even violates 3RR rule. Please deepfriedokra, this is emergency that shall be intimidate action from administrators.

I have link evidence of it:

1. [19]
2. [20]
3. [21]
4. [22]
5. [23]
6. [24]

And please invoking indefinite pending changes protection as replacement of semi-protection if full protection is expired, this is an urgent. 110.137.163.125 (talk) 21:29, 6 May 2021 (UTC)

Bro I have reverted twice. I am not edit warring. Just stepped in to stop the 3RR edit war. My bad. I didn’t mean to be disruptive Jhenderson ⁷⁷⁷ 21:38, 6 May 2021 (UTC)

Don't worry, one user referred that violate 3RR is Newtlamender and have already discussed it on ANEW. 182.1.38.201 (talk) 22:08, 6 May 2021 (UTC)

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Unprotection

Hello, back in 2017 you semi-protected Girls' Generation to indefinite. However, nowadays I don't think semi is necessary anymore as the group has been inactive for a while now and Wikipedia strives to be as open as possible. ɴᴋᴏɴ21 ❯❯❯ talk 21:19, 10 May 2021 (UTC)

@Nkon21:  Done. Thanks --Deepfriedokra (talk) 22:10, 10 May 2021 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Anti-Vandalism Barnstar
	Thank you for protecting Waterloo Road (TV series)! A victory against the “testes go up and down” vandal. 🐍 Helen 🐍 22:35, 14 May 2021 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

		The Admin's Barnstar
		PP in under 7 minutes from requesting. That's awesome! Thanks - wolf 10:12, 15 May 2021 (UTC)

May 2021

Hi, I found that you have marked this page Battlegrounds Mobile India for deletion. But this page is not an advertisement, it is all about a game that will be going to relaunch in India after the official ban of PlayerUnknown's Battlegrounds, notable sources are independently providing information regarding this. So, it is not violating any of Wikipedia's guidelines. So, I, with good faith and belief, hereby request you to take down the deletion request. Thank you. Iamrajdeepdas (talk) 12:24, 17 May 2021 (UTC)

@Iamrajdeepdas: Yeah, we get a lot of spam disguised as articles. Looks to me like someone is trying to promote the subject and help make that relaunch successful. For future reference, it is best to let a reviewing admin decide on whether a page meets WP:CSD criteria. As has been done. Cheers, and happy editing. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 14:48, 17 May 2021 (UTC)

@Deepfriedokra: Agree, that some people are adding spam sources just because they are not aware of Wikipedia's policies. Right now the article is deleted. Let see if someone will consider the topic as encyclopedic. Then it may have an article on Wikipedia. Many many thanks and stay safe. Iamrajdeepdas (talk) 15:52, 17 May 2021 (UTC)

Protection reduction

Hello – thanks for protecting List of EastEnders characters following the edit war. We've reached a consensus on the talk page, so would you be able to reduce the protection back down to indefinite autoconfirmed protection? – DarkGlow • 19:36, 18 May 2021 (UTC)

@DarkGlow: Thanks. On the way. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 20:08, 18 May 2021 (UTC)

 Done

Protection needed!

Regards! Kindly protect the page Hagalavadi which is being vandalized every now and then. Local people of that place are adding stuffs as per their views and not considering any reverts. Thanks. Msclrfl22 (talk) 08:37, 20 May 2021 (UTC)

Declined – Not enough recent disruptive activity to justify protection. User welcome-warned. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 13:59, 20 May 2021 (UTC)

Hey!

Thank you for your advice, but I am not creating a page on my self. I have contact with a singer and I am creating a page on him, as he has asked me to, and I would love to change my name as I put my real name in my username, thinking that my username was private.

Replied --Deepfriedokra (talk) 13:56, 20 May 2021 (UTC)

Sorry

Im sorry for accidentally reverting your edit i saw a massive edit war so restored less controversial revision.Ratnahastin (talk) 14:23, 20 May 2021 (UTC)

@Sikandar khan67: No, you removed the unsourced content. And I needed to change the protection anyway. I found that page a but challenging. Thanks. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 14:28, 20 May 2021 (UTC)

I ended removing pp protected template aswell when i restored revision anyway thank you for cooperating, that page really does need some admin attention.Ratnahastin (talk) 14:32, 20 May 2021 (UTC)

On the topic of that edit, I made an edit request on the article's talk page to re-add some of the reverted stuff. Can you do it, Deepfriedokra? Link20XX (talk) 15:01, 20 May 2021 (UTC)

@Link20XX: That's at least some of the (unsourced ?) content that was removed (edit warred) over. I think you need to gain consensus for its addition on the talk page. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 15:05, 20 May 2021 (UTC)

The stuff I asked to be re-added was the newest episode in the episode Template and a small correction to the hat note. It is also not unsourced, the sources is at the top of the table (a common citation method for this type of show). The edit was was over Lily and their gender, so I don't see how that has anything to with them. Link20XX (talk) 15:08, 20 May 2021 (UTC)

@Link20XX: You should discuss with those who were reverting it's addition. On the talk page. Thanks --Deepfriedokra (talk) 17:33, 20 May 2021 (UTC)

You misunderstood. No one reverted it until Sikandar khan67 reverted all the edits made to the page for the last several days, which included several good edits and the protection template you placed. Link20XX (talk) 17:36, 20 May 2021 (UTC)

No there was more edit warring (with sarcastic edit summaries) from other users than that. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 17:44, 20 May 2021 (UTC)

WP:ANI

There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. Just notifying you as the blocking admin, as a courtesy really. 92.24.246.11 (talk) 15:49, 20 May 2021 (UTC)

Y'all were edit warring over a bloody comma splice. I blocked both of you from editing the article. Now, please bloody discuss with the other editor on the talk page. Like what you do in a content dispute. Thanks Permalink to ANI --Deepfriedokra (talk) 17:41, 20 May 2021 (UTC)

MF Doom

Thanks for protecting the page, but as soon as the lock lifts (tomorrow) the edit warring is going to resume as if nothing had changed. These are drive-by IP editors who don't care or know about previous discussions. Is there anything else that can be done to help this? Popcornfud (talk) 14:06, 25 May 2021 (UTC)

@Popcornfud: That is such a free-for-all. I mean edit warring from extended confirmed and autoconfirmed. Will have to see what happens tomorrow. Might need more than SP tomorrow. Post to the talk page and see who responds. Probably I'll SP tomorrow and then any further disruption will need to go to ANI. --Deepfriedokra (talk)

Thanks. I'm fuzzy about all the different kinds of protection but I'll keep an eye on things. Popcornfud (talk) 14:16, 25 May 2021 (UTC)

Happy Vesak!

Happy Vesak,
Thanks for your contributions to Wikipedia, and a Happy and Blessed Vesak to you and yours! User:JaMongKut (talk) 18:11, 25 May 2021 (UTC)

Request

Please rename my username.im request this https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:GlobalRenameRequest/status Chief Minister (Talk) 16:40, 26 May 2021 (UTC)

@Bāsudēba kr̥ṣṇa: The chosen username is similar to an existing username or it used to be username of someone else that got renamed: Chief minister. Please choose again. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 16:48, 26 May 2021 (UTC)

Please see https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:CentralAuth?target=ChiefMinister. This user isn't register.and I'm re request https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:GlobalRenameRequest/status Please change.Chief Minister (Talk) 17:00, 26 May 2021 (UTC)

The software stopped me. Maybe if you ask the stewards they can override. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 17:03, 26 May 2021 (UTC)

@Deepfriedokra:Changing my request I am requesting to change my name to the correct name Ved Vyas.Chief Minister (Talk) 17:36, 26 May 2021 (UTC)

Stopped again. "The chosen username is too similar to existing usernames or it used to be username of someone else that got renamed: VedVyas and Vedvyas" You might try the Stewards. They can override where I cannot.. m:Steward requests/Username changes --Deepfriedokra (talk) 18:55, 26 May 2021 (UTC)

77832

m:Special:GlobalRenameQueue/request/77832 - the reason sounded like a WP:COMPROMISED account? Cabayi (talk) 15:36, 28 May 2021 (UTC)

@Cabayi: I thought that at first, but 1) that username had to go, and 2) he has one crack at unblocking at UTRS left. I removed TPA. (Would he need access to account to request rename?) Dubious on the "son." That's like "my dog ate my homework". Just more trolling. And of poor quality as well. Also, not saying, "my son used my account". Saying "my son made the account; now he's grounded." --Deepfriedokra (talk) 15:44, 28 May 2021 (UTC)

I read it the other way around, that the father had hijacked the son's account. The son created it, the father's using it to appeal? Ah, the lovely ambiguities of English.

The path from claims of WP:LITTLEBROTHER to a block for WP:COMPROMISED has always appeared short and clear in my view. Cabayi (talk) 15:52, 28 May 2021 (UTC)

I could reblock for compromised plus the rest and reference the global renamer ticket. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 16:20, 28 May 2021 (UTC)

Hah. "father" doing his dadly duty in going to bat for his son. How paternal. Father of the Yea. Don't really believe that. I think it's one incredible bored and possibly troubled individual seeking human contact the only way they can. By vandalizing Wikipedia. --Deepfriedokra (talk)

Regarding your Eric André protection

Just noticed that you protected the Eric André article due to the persistent vandalism that's been happening and wanted to point out that the same user, using multiple anonymous IP addresses, has been making similar changes to other Lion King related articles like Keegan-Michael Key, List of The Lion King (franchise) characters, Cheech Marin, and The Lion King 1½. Wasn't sure if there was a simple way to address this for all of the articles or if a process needs to be gone through for each one individually but wanted to point it out. NJZombie (talk) 21:20, 29 May 2021 (UTC)

Rename

Can you please change my user name to AgentCody? Thanks, Powerful Karma (talk) 01:01, 30 May 2021 (UTC)

 Done --Deepfriedokra (talk) 01:37, 30 May 2021 (UTC)

LTA type

You blocked this guy, who's now back as Special:Contributions/92.40.180.4. ——Serial 10:23, 30 May 2021 (UTC) "@Serial Number 54129:. How delightful. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 10:25, 30 May 2021 (UTC)

Aint it just! Thanks for that. ——Serial 11:04, 30 May 2021 (UTC)

Michel Vorm

Hello.

I just want to point out that I tried to engage in conversation with the other editor on their talk page, but they deleted it and denied me the conversation.

When I made the first edit, I explained it in a comment. When it was reverted, I got this message: "Hello. This is a message to let you know that one or more of your recent contributions, such as the edit you made to Michel Vorm, did not appear constructive and has been reverted."

The relevant editor has made no efforts to explain to me what is wrong with my edits. They have just been called not constructive and nothing else, and as I said, when I tried to engage them in conversation they deleted it from their talk page. I provided an argument for the edits, but if the arguments go against some rules, I have no idea which rules those are.

I really don't understand how I am single-handedly to blame. 130.208.238.197 (talk) 12:26, 30 May 2021 (UTC)

Well, you have removed content three times and been reverted by two other editors. You have not discussed content and sourcing on the article talk page. Y'all can do so here. @REDMAN 2019 and Govvy:. I don't understand the "blame" remark. I just left you and edit warring notice since you were. I did not block you from editing or semi protect the page. I fully protected the page so that y'all could discuss on the talk page instead of edit warring. Y'all can do so now here. Or there. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 14:59, 30 May 2021 (UTC)

He left Spurs, and rejoined, that's two different spells at the club. You shouldn't combine them into one spell. That was done a couple of times before on his article. Doing that edit again is disruptive. If you got reverted the first time, that could be a mistake, but he got reverted a second time also and so on. Govvy (talk) 16:46, 30 May 2021 (UTC)

I gave an explanation in my revert and second Govvy's comment above. REDMAN 2019 (talk) 18:29, 30 May 2021 (UTC)

Thank you for actually providing an argument, guys. I will re-emphasize that I tried to talk to the user, Govvy, through their talk page, but they were not prepared for a discussion. I will also correct you - I was not reverted by anyone other than Govvy until after I tried to talk to Govvy, before the three-revert rule, and I did not touch the article after it was reverted by a second user. I'm just sad that this discussion had to happen on this talk page, but I will not edit that article again - nor will I continue to edit, if it's okay to be bullied like this. Have a good life, guys. Dalitidlamadur (talk) 20:44, 30 May 2021 (UTC)1

And yes, I have an account. I was on my work laptop when I made the first edit and did not realize it until I had a message on an IP talk page. I do mean that I will not edit again, so this account will be laid to the side. Dalitidlamadur (talk) 20:46, 30 May 2021 (UTC)

Jabbi and their hockey dispute

After closing the DRN dispute, and then after making my statement at ArbCom, I checked a little more of the history. I think that Jabbi is acting like a male bovid in a boutique for fine pottery. I see that they have already gotten banned from biographies of living persons, presumably for stubbornly making unsourced statements. They are also on a tear against Lukashenko or whatever his name is in Belarus. That is okay because he is an international villain, but that doesn't justify being irresponsible in attacking him and his associates. I thought that he ought to calm down, and he won't. We shall see whether he breaks anything more. Robert McClenon (talk) 00:51, 31 May 2021 (UTC)

Thank you

A quick note to say "thank you" for your swift and diligent work on the UTRS queue. I see you answering these frequently, and I am sure it takes a lot of patience, tact and time. I appreciate you doing it. Best, Laplorfill (talk) 08:15, 31 May 2021 (UTC)

Rename

Hi, Deepfriedokra, how are you? I see your name a lot dealing with UTRS and renaming (and echo the sentiments immediately above this), so I'm a little hesitant to question this action, but I was ... a little surprised. It seems to me that the new username is still not really OK – it contains the company name without specifying that there's an individual behind it (it isn't really a "Mike at widgets.com" name, is it?). Just as an aside, I don't believe we should be giving any space at all, anywhere in the project, to this company or its staff – see for example this completely non-reliable source. Regards, Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 13:20, 31 May 2021 (UTC)

@Justlettersandnumbers: (forgot the "yo")(bloody tremors)I thought that too. And I've declined on that basis. "However, usernames are acceptable if they contain a company or group name but are clearly intended to denote an individual person, such as "Mark at WidgetsUSA", "Jack Smith at the XY Foundation", "WidgetFan87"." So corpname+number string = 😊. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ --Deepfriedokra (talk) 13:46, 31 May 2021 (UTC)

@Justlettersandnumbers: The scam thing is less clear. My personal preference is no corpname in username at all. I don't know. Gah. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 13:51, 31 May 2021 (UTC)

As their only purpose is self promotion, I doubt they'll be unblocked. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 13:59, 31 May 2021 (UTC)

GS restoration request

Hi Deepfriedokra, thank you very much for taking action against an edit war at COVID-19 misinformation. As the full protection has expired, I'd like to restore the GS extended-confirmed protection. Is this okay with you? Alternatively, feel free to restore the protection. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 18:30, 4 June 2021 (UTC)

@ToBeFree: Please do. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 18:33, 4 June 2021 (UTC)

Thanks :) ~ ToBeFree (talk) 18:33, 4 June 2021 (UTC)

Shashank Kumar

Shashank Kumar I think this person is a deception.I have recently noticed that some people are creating Wikipedia articles by publishing news in their own name in some newspapers, including national newspapers.This person is one of them.What is your opinion? Chief Minister (Talk) 16:45, 7 June 2021 (UTC)

I also did a Google search and research under the name of Shashank Kumar and realized that he is not a significant person.Chief Minister (Talk) 16:54, 7 June 2021 (UTC)

You might want to nominate for deletion at WP:AFD. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 18:09, 7 June 2021 (UTC)

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UTRS

Just a heads up that you might get an irate request at UTRS from Salim Balfas. Slightly complicated story (claims to be a child of M. Balfas; been editing the article for years in an OR, POV, BLP violating way). Regards, --Malcolmxl5 (talk) 04:11, 13 June 2021 (UTC)

AndrewLangSunrise--Help with declaring paid status

Hello, if you read the previous message you sent to me, you were pointing out the need to change my user name and to acknowledge a potential conflict of interest since I am an employee of the entity that owns the site (Sunrise Mill) whose Wikipedia article I was attempting to edit to correct its factual inaccuracies. To my knowledge, I have successfully completed the name change, but I am having tremendous difficulty with declaring a conflict of interest or acknowledging paid status. I am afraid the resources you sent me did not clarify matters, in that I am quite a novice to this. Moreover, I want to emphasize that I am trying to do this as a directive from my supervisor in order to correct misconceptions that people have about the site because of the erroneous information contained on the Wikipedia page. Any further information you could provide on how to specifically resolve/address my employment status with regards to these editing attempts would be much appreciated. — Preceding unsigned comment added by AndrewLangSunrise (talk • contribs) --Deepfriedokra (talk) 10:14, 18 June 2021 (UTC)

@AndrewLangSunrise: Thanks for your note. Please place the part between the nowiki tags on your user page, filling in the pertinent details. (employer, article) {{paid|employer=ACME|article=Example}}

That should suffice. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 10:14, 18 June 2021 (UTC)

TPA

Journeysdmc has continued spamming on their talk page after being blocked. Could you revoke talk page access? Thanks. --Drm310 🍁 (talk) 14:11, 18 June 2021 (UTC)

@Drm310: with pleasure. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 16:13, 18 June 2021 (UTC)

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Query

Hello, Deepfriedokra,

I was deleting User:Goldblade140 by editor request and it was an example of something I've been seeing lately that I can't figure out. I'm hoping as a global renamer, maybe you can explain what is going on. It's brand new editors creating their user page with a tag asking for it to be deleted (when they could have just not created it) and then putting a Retired tag on their user page. Or, in this case, being a few hours old, asking for a rename and then retiring. Why even create an account, much less ask for a rename if one is going to immediately retire? Do you see this much, too? Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 03:37, 23 June 2021 (UTC)

@Liz: It's bizarre. I see it a lot. There may be a meta logic that escapes me, but that involves/requires even (ever?) more bizarre trains of thought. Baffled. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 06:16, 23 June 2021 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) Liz & DFO, I thought it was down to the instructions at Wikipedia:Courtesy vanishing, and added "Do not create a page just to request its deletion." accordingly, but the suggestion there is to use {{db-user}} & most of these requests use {{db-u1}}. Some consolidation (& correction) of the courtesy vanishing process is needed I think. Cabayi (talk) 18:07, 23 June 2021 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) @Liz and Cabayi: & Deepfriedokra. I am highly suspicious of this kind of thing. There are other related things, such as a new account creating a trivial user page, then blanking it. That is probably sometimes just a new editor experimenting with creating a user page, but I suspect it very often isn't. Remarkably often a new editor's first edit is to create a user page consisting of a single character, such as a dot. Many years ago the late (and in my opinion much lamented) editor Flyer22 suggested that accounts which do that are always sockpuppets avoiding having a redlinked user page which would make their editing stand out prominently in editing histories. She may or may not have been exaggerating in saying "always", but my experience has confirmed beyond any doubt whatever that it is very often so. I have a strong feeling that the thing that Liz has mentioned has some similar dubious purpose, rather than being an innocent mistake, but I confess I can't pin down exactly what it is. Incidentally, Liz says she has been seeing this "lately", but I have seen it over the course of many years. It may be more common recently for some reason, or it may be that Liz just happens to have come across it a lot recently. JBW (talk) 18:44, 23 June 2021 (UTC)

Question

How you added colour and font size in your wiki Signature.

Please Tell me --Tushar ツ 15:09, 23 June 2021 (UTC)

Under "preferences," Click, "Treat the above as wiki markup." Add the markup of your choice, eg, --<b>[[User:Deepfriedokra|<span style="color:black">Deep</span><span style="color:red">fried</span><span style="color:DarkOrange">okra</span>]] [[User talk:Deepfriedokra|(<span style="color:black">talk</span>)]]</b> --Deepfriedokra (talk) 17:41, 23 June 2021 (UTC)

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Belated gratitude

Being thanked for something I did 17 months ago is very unusual, though far from being unprecedented. A number of times I've been thanked for actions I took several years ago, and once for something I did over a decade ago. JBW (talk) 20:51, 27 June 2021 (UTC)

That'll tell you how long it's been since I actually read that block notice. Much better now. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 21:16, 27 June 2021 (UTC)

Actually, it's a total relief. We should not tell a new editor to not create an article about a notable subject, and we cannot judge notability fully based on their promotionally-trained edits. If they can create a non promotional article, then we can gauge notability later. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 21:23, 27 June 2021 (UTC)

Back when I first became an administrator, that notice was absolutely horrendous. It looked as though it was deliberately designed to intimidate editors. Over the years it has been toned down considerably. (I don't know whether you remember what it was like back then.) JBW (talk) 22:03, 27 June 2021 (UTC)

And by the money-see-monkey-do principle, it set the tone for granting unblocks. Scary. I've modified my SPAMU decline notices according to the new version. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 22:07, 27 June 2021 (UTC)

2 questions regarding my first attempt at getting an IP block exemption

My block exemption got approved a few minutes ago and I had 2 quick questions. Would you have approved my request if I had included my username and made my request more clear and understandable? (My reason for asking is that I have only been granted a 3-month IP:BE and need to find an admin to extend it once more 3 months from now.) My second question is regarding your statement 2 days ago on my talkpage that "So that explains the check user's response" and I was curious what that refers to? Did a check user respond to my request prior to today? If so, when/where? (I'm under the impression that a check user never responded to me prior to today). Thanks! LaceyUF (talk) 05:53, 29 June 2021 (UTC)

@LaceyUF: Can't give an IPBE w/o the account name. (Could you UTRS via username?) You had said at one point that email requests to the CU's had been declined (scoffed at? rebuffed?) with the (fairly standard) advice to turn of the VPN. Glad IPBE finally granted. Don't know why for only three months. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 10:19, 29 June 2021 (UTC)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Unblock_Ticket_Request_System When you click "Submit an unblock request" it asks for your username, so I didn't include my username in the main text box, and I was declined for not including my username. (The declining admin said he didn't see my username and that's why he declined it.) I have it either in an email or on my talk page and I will happily provide this if you request it. The email requests to the CU's were ignored. When I asked a specific CU about it, he blamed the backlog. I had been waiting 2 weeks and got impatient so I spammed 7 checkusers email after asking a checkuser where I could find a list of checkusers. Lastly, thanks for your patience in dealing with me and I'm sorry if I caused you or any other admins/check-users a headache! LaceyUF (talk) 06:22, 30 June 2021 (UTC)

@LaceyUF: I think I read where someone else had encountered that problem at UTRS. Must be a bug. We'll need to ask specifically about a user name, especially where those large rangeblocks are concerned. I'm just glad it finally worked out, because it should have been easier. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 07:07, 30 June 2021 (UTC)

Minor update but I brought this to the attention of the UTRS developers here on github, if you notice this happen again to anyone, please tag them! LaceyUF (talk) 02:24, 1 July 2021 (UTC)

Is my first creation really a promotional content ?

Hi, i came across an open internship of India on cyber security which is being offered by government & law enforcement agencies. Being new on wikipedia, I apologise, if you feel the content is promotional. But the fact is, I just mentioned what they offer and on what topics they train. though I have properly cited the content, which is pure organic in nature. The internship started in 2013 & it's been offered to all the students of India who are eligible for it. It's not from any particular organization and thus I have no intentions to advertise and promote it. Looking forward for your help & views. Here is the draft- Draft:Gurugram Police Cyber Security Summer Internship. Rapturemania (talk)

@Rapturemania: If I deleted under WP:G11, I would think so. Please reread the the notice I should have left on your talk. The one with a teal background. Anything can be promoted. It is content, not subject. Feel free to seek review at WP:DRV. Best --Deepfriedokra (talk) 12:56, 30 June 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for your prompt revert. I'll look into it. Rapturemania (talk) 13:04, 30 June 2021 (UTC)

SPI or no SPI

Unbelievable nonsense with the Richard Chevolleau article... I've asked for semi-protection. Do you think it's worth an SPI report? Michael Ohanu and Richard Chevolleau Official are already blocked, leaving 114.142.169.18 as the only active offender (for now).

I'm sure this is the same person:

1. the IP geolocates to Indonesia
2. the two blocked editors have made edits in Indonesian or Malay (so says Google Translate):

• Michael Ohanu made this edit summary [25]
• Richard Chevolleau Official wrote a talk page comment [26], immediately erased it but wrote an edit summary [27], and made another comment [28]

Is it worth SPI or should the semi-protection be sufficient? --Drm310 🍁 (talk) 01:38, 2 July 2021 (UTC)

GorillaWarfare SP'd. We can block based on behavior w/o SPI(?) --Deepfriedokra (talk) 02:30, 2 July 2021 (UTC)

adding pp-vandalism

Hello, Deepfriedokra. Can you adding pp-vandalism on Eshay article, which was protected by Ohnoitsjamie due to vandalism because the another admin was forget to add that. Thank you 114.125.61.45 (talk) 00:28, 3 July 2021 (UTC)

 Done by MusikBot II --Deepfriedokra (talk) 00:34, 3 July 2021 (UTC)

Muhammad and the Bible

Hello! I wonder if you'd consider a longer protection, say a year. There's been disruption in March, April, May, June and July, including stuff like [29]. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 08:44, 3 July 2021 (UTC)

@Gråbergs Gråa Sång: Thanks for your note. I did, actually, so consider. This is only the second SP. The first was for one week, so I doubled. When the problem resumes, I can increase more. Looks like pending changes was tried and failed, so now we are faced with denying non auto confirmed editors the ability to edit an article in the encyclopedia that anybody can edit. Hopefully, he'll find another hobby. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 11:38, 3 July 2021 (UTC)

Good enough! Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 11:40, 3 July 2021 (UTC)

Restoration request for User:SasBasu/0Chain

Hi

I noticed the deletion of this page for quite understandable worries about conflict of interest. To clarify this, I have requested a username change for my account (so it doesn't get confused with the CEO of the corporate entity in the article). I also understand that I must declare my own conflict of interest on the article's talk page using a conflict of interest template to declare that I was paid to write the article draft by this corporate entity.

I would like to re-edit and re-submit this article. How is that achieved? Is there anything else I should be aware of?

--SasBasu (talk) 15:57, 4 July 2021 (UTC)

@SasBasu: Please reread the deletion notice. It was not deleted as a WP:COI. It was deleted as promotional content requiring a total rewrite. Thanks, --Deepfriedokra (talk) 16:01, 4 July 2021 (UTC)

@SasBasu: PS. I was not the deleting admin. It was @Jimfbleak:. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 16:03, 4 July 2021 (UTC)

Reviving a page

Good evening, Deepfriedokra. I'd like to review a previously deleted article, Gamma Phi Omega, about a Latina sorority whose article had been removed on a vote over copyvio, probably 3x for that reason. You were one of three admins to delete the page, so I hoped you would have access to the most recent version.

Additional good sources pertaining to this group have cropped up, and I'd like to see what had previously been written in order to perhaps use some of the content. I'm circling through the NALFO organizations to clean up those with existing pages, and repair/improve a couple that had been deleted, where I can. Thank you. I'll make sure that the same old errors are no longer made. The earlier writers were not experienced editors. Jax MN (talk) 00:08, 6 July 2021 (UTC)

@Jax MN: Sorry, no. It's all promotional and content copyrighted elsewhere. From the subject's webpage. Nothing there is useful for writing an encyclopedia article. An article must all be rewritten with content from reliable, independent sources. "All content must be cited from reliable sources that are unconnected with the subject and have a reputation for fact checking." If you have sufficient coverage from reliable, independent sources to meet WP:CORP It would be best to rely solely on such sources. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 02:20, 6 July 2021 (UTC)

What I'm looking for is a starting point for page structure, and good but un-referenced language that will serve as a placeholder until I can evaluate each statement, paraphrase that which is encyclopedic but borrowed, ensure it doesn't break our copyright rules, and make whatever additions would add value to the page. The organization is clearly notable, as it has existed far longer than our minimum of 10 years with a minimum of three chapters - (Fraternities and Sororities Project standard, using the same consistent rules that our major reference guide, Baird's Manual used for 140 years.) Our Project has interpretive guidelines that help us apply Wikipedia standards to these various groups. Until I see what was previously there, I just don't know if it is garbage or not. I hope to find some clues of areas to write about that I may miss in my review of their website, as a non-member. Jax MN (talk) 02:40, 6 July 2021 (UTC)

@Jax MN: emailed. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 02:47, 6 July 2021 (UTC)

Ugh, I see what you mean. Lots of work to do. Thanks for sending. Jax MN (talk) 03:10, 6 July 2021 (UTC)

My pleasure. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 04:06, 6 July 2021 (UTC)

Curious

I'm curious about your rename decline here. Policy allows the use of company names if an individual name is included (e.g. User:PonyoWikipedia). Is there something written somewhere that forbids the use of a name and role (e.g. PonyoEditor)? You do so many renamings that you can probably point me to the policy quicker than I can find it myself.-- Jezebel's Ponyo^{bons mots} 22:07, 7 July 2021 (UTC)

@Ponyo:I think it's too close to a company function. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 22:09, 7 July 2021 (UTC)

@Ponyo: Laura at whatever would have been more individual. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 22:11, 7 July 2021 (UTC)

Oh, and it could look like some sort of on Wiki role, like an official Wiki support person. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 22:13, 7 July 2021 (UTC)

Lara of yellow would work. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 22:13, 7 July 2021 (UTC)

I probably would have accepted the suggested rename, which is why it's best I stay away from renames altogether. Clearly not my forte.-- Jezebel's Ponyo^{bons mots} 22:18, 7 July 2021 (UTC)

Nomination of Arceus for deletion

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Remove an edit summary with personal attacks

I would like you to remove the edit summary of this edit to List of best-selling manga since it contains personal attacks towards another editor. Thanks in advance. Link20XX (talk) 14:28, 13 July 2021 (UTC)

 Done --Deepfriedokra (talk) 16:25, 13 July 2021 (UTC)

No Connection to Navidul Huq, mistakenly used.

I am beginner, learning myself without formal training. I am not master in Wikipedia. I thought choosing the name might help me edit Rubana Huq faster. I should have read all policies before opening username, it is my mistake. I am trying to change my username. Take love. Thanks.

Replied --Deepfriedokra (talk) 08:20, 14 July 2021 (UTC)

UTRS requests

Since this is going to come up on UTRS every few days, just thought I'd let you have these links for comparison on his unblocks, especially since I'm the only one blocking him currently -- [30], [31], [32], [33]. Cheers. —SpacemanSpiff 12:37, 16 July 2021 (UTC)

@SpacemanSpiff: Thanks for keeping me apprised. I just declined UTRS appeal #45437. (redacted) I actually typed "bullshit" and then rephrased. God, it's amazing the size of the shovel he's using. If I'd had any doubt at all about the SPI, he's buried it with his bullshit. SMDH --Deepfriedokra (talk) 13:35, 16 July 2021 (UTC)

Todd Novak image Restrictions

Hello,

I work in the office of State Representative Todd Novak, we are trying ensure accuracy on his page. However, we continue to struggle with uploading his most current official portrait. We have the rights to the photo, and have waived them to the public domain.

Any assistance or completion of this task for us would be most helpful.

Thank you for your help on this matter.

@Legis.wi.gov51:I'm afraid I do not have good news for you. Quite the contrary. Please read and heed WP:COI and WP:PAID. Please understand that Wikipedia is an encyclopedia. It is not a venue to promote Rep Novak. In my experience, "ensure accuracy" is what people with a conflict of interest say when they want to ensure only content favorable to the subject is in the article. "All content must be cited from reliable sources that are unconnected with the subject and have a reputation for fact checking." You should not edit about the representative anywhere on Wikipedia. You should instead make edit requests after addressing your COI and PAID status. Your next edits should be to place the appropriate notices on your user page and the talk page of the article about the representative.

Please do not post personally identifying information on Wikipedia. That you are trying to exercise the power of his office on Wikipedia only deepens the need for you to address your conflict of interest. Please sign talk page posts with four tildes.

The image should be uploaded to Wikimedia Commons .You would need to log in there and follow the upload instructions. I see it has been deleted as work copyrighted elsewhere. If it appears anywhere else off Wiki, without a clearly posted free license, it will be regarded as a WP:copyvio. Commons is separate from Wikipedia. You will need to discuss with the deleting admin on Commons, @Elcobbola:

You used the word "we". Wikipedia accounts are not to be shared. You will need to rename the account soon to avoid being blocked from editing. A bunch of people have been trying to edit that article. Please be aware that WP:SOCKPUPPETRY is intensely frowned upon, whether it is one individual operating more than one account or several people coordinating efforts off Wiki.

Sorry I can't be more helpful, but I believe being straight with people. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 17:22, 16 July 2021 (UTC)

Deepfriedokra, see Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/Morganoflahrity. Эlcobbola _talk 17:30, 16 July 2021 (UTC)

@Эlcobbola: Thanks. Just came from there. Blocked sock that posted here. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 17:37, 16 July 2021 (UTC)

You might also want to look at ticket:2021071210014599, in which the sender acknowledges and names two accounts. FWIW, I'm a Commons CU, and have twice linked to data on the cu.wiki that connects referenced account in the SPI, so I'm unsure what exactly en.wiki needs to take action. The UTRS ticket, further, includes responses demonstrating the above is disingenuous. This person has been told over and over again (on site and through UTRS) what the issue is and what is needed to host the image. CIR/IDHT. Эlcobbola _talk 17:58, 16 July 2021 (UTC)

@Elcobbola: @Legis.wi.gov51: When I saw the deletion log, I felt skeptical about their free use claim. I don't thing VRT is somethin they let me look at. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 18:01, 16 July 2021 (UTC)

Sorry about that. I saw the UTRS userbox and conflated it with OTRS/VRT/LTS (it doesn't help that those are all simultaneously its name). Эlcobbola _talk 18:07, 16 July 2021 (UTC)

No what you mean (sigh) --Deepfriedokra (talk) 18:09, 16 July 2021 (UTC)

Behzad Warrior Academy

Moved to talk from user page I'm deciding to recreate Behzad Warrior Academy page by new editing as I believe this is notable. I respectfully ask your permission to do this. Sincerely MMA Kid (talk) 18:56, 17 July 2021 (UTC)

@MMA Kid: Sure, just please be mindful of not making it promotional. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 19:13, 17 July 2021 (UTC)

Thank you for your kindness and trust in me. Behzad Warrior Academy page recreated by your points. Sincerely MMA Kid (talk) 03:25, 19 July 2021 (UTC)

Hello

Can you create for me a Wikipedia page? Hablus (talk) 05:36, 19 July 2021 (UTC)

@Hablus: I was never great at article creation and have not done it in years. Too much work. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 07:36, 19 July 2021 (UTC)

Draft: Girmit Global Museum

Thank you for all your messages especially the latest one on not using advertising (i was not aware I was doing this, not intentional). AwesomeAubergine (talk) 07:21, 20 July 2021 (UTC)

Need Help

Hello I need your help about resolving another unnecessary Balkan dispute, 2 editors removed sourced content, claiming on page Zachlumia that Fine writes that it was inhabited by south Slavs, but it is not, it is clear that is said that Hum (Zachumlia) was: " Most of Hum interior was settled by Serbs and belonged to Eastern Church (under the Archbishop of Ohrid until 1219 when Hum was subordinated to a new independent Serbian church" as can been seen on the mentioned source (which is open access and can been seen by everybody) pg 20. Fine [[34]]. " Can you do something about it? Thank you. Theonewithreason (talk) 21 July 2021 (UTC)

Fully protected --Deepfriedokra (talk) 19:23, 21 July 2021 (UTC)

Thank you Theonewithreason (talk) 21 July 2021 (UTC)

AN: CheatCodes4ever requesting an unblock

Hi Deepfriedokra, there is an unblock request at WP:AN#CheatCodes4ever's unblock request that may be interesting as your username appears in their block log. Best regards, ~ ToBeFree (talk) 09:02, 23 July 2021 (UTC)

Don't wanna rain on anyone's parade, but eeww --Deepfriedokra (talk) 11:06, 23 July 2021 (UTC)

About page protection

Hi there. Hope your are doing fine. I asked for protection for the Mohammad Mithun article in the Wikipedia article protection request page but the page I requested for yet didn’t get protected and as a result, vandalism didn’t yet stop in that article. I saw you are an administrator and you also protected few articles, so could you please protect the Mohammad Mithun article cause my request hasn’t been yet answered and the vandalism is increasing. It would had been a great help. I am still patrolling the article and I am still reverting vandalisms. I hope you will help in this regard. Thank you. 👉Chynapras👈 (talk) 10:31, 23 July 2021 (UTC)

 Done --Deepfriedokra (talk) 11:06, 23 July 2021 (UTC)

Thank you so so so much!!!! It was such a great help from you. I was so tired of fighting vandalism all day so couldn't help myself but ask you for help. Thanks for helping me. You are the best! 👉Chynapras👈 (talk) 13:33, 23 July 2021 (UTC)

Please block sockpuppet and semi-protect Virginia Commonwealth University

On July 9, you semi-protected Virginia Commonwealth University to protect it from persistent sockpuppetry by Bradford9. The protection expired today and he or she is back with a new sockpuppet. Can you please block that sockpuppet and semi-protect the article again? I'll file an SPI to smoke out any other socks. Thanks! ElKevbo (talk) 01:01, 24 July 2021 (UTC)

 Done Commented at SPI --Deepfriedokra (talk) 02:08, 24 July 2021 (UTC)

User(s) blocked. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 14:28, 24 July 2021 (UTC)

Strange happenings at Rham Records

Conflict of interest, content dispute and aspersions best dealt with at a noticeboard. Is at coin. Nothing more to be done here. Except find coffee.

As if anything on Wikipedia isn't strange. There seems to be a lot of editing and reverting going on at Rham Records (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs). WP:OWN? COI? Almost all without any ES. Rather interesting given the company apparently was defunct in 1992. Repeated removal of the defunct date. Discogs.com has the latest release in 2003. You had range blocked an anon: RFPP: Rham Records In the last hour or so, I reverted a revert edit (without an ES) by a registered user as unsourced - the same sort of EW reverting that was going on with numerous IPs. Given the user had few edits, I templated them, only to discover they were the page creator. That user, in the last hour or so, reverted my edit again w/o an ES. For some reason, the user has their signature name piped: visible in this diff: RFPP - Rham! (page was moved by its creator to Rham Records). Probably just experimenting as user doesn't appear to have signed their name elsewhere. I don't know how to proceed with this. Hopefully, you can and will resolve it? I'm taking the article off my watch page. Deep fried okra - now I'm hungry! Where's a good place go get some? Best regards Adakiko (talk) 08:19, 24 July 2021 (UTC) @Adakiko: You should report it all at WP:COIN. I think. I'm asleep. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 10:23, 24 July 2021 (UTC) Reported to wp:COIN#Rham Records. Thanks Adakiko (talk) 11:31, 24 July 2021 (UTC) Hi, I Barryls69 created this page, and have requested page protection as it is being repeatedly vandalised by user Vivibelle. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Barryls69 (talk • contribs) 11:36, 24 July 2021 (UTC) Rham! Records from Merseyside ceased operations in 1992. There have been no releases by Rham! since 1991 (the later Discogs entries are licenses of old catalogue). In 2019, Barryls69 incorporated a new company called Rham Records Limited and has been passing it off as the original Rham! Records in order to illegally exploit recordings by A Guy Called Gerald - this is why he keeps removing the text 'defunct 1992', and the '!' from Rham! I am A Guy Called Gerald's business manager. Legal action has been commenced against Barryls69 and his new company, and he has been warned by A Guy Called Gerald's lawyers to cease and desist from altering information in the public domain.Vivibelle (talk) 12:25, 24 July 2021 (UTC) Oh good grief, y'all. Please take this to the appropriate notice board. Probably COIN. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 14:25, 24 July 2021 (UTC)

Prasad Perera

Dear Deepfriedokra,

I created above titled page and that has been removed I am new here and would like to know what are the reasons for that to be deleted. Page has written in 3rd party format and it has all the valid link and information. I was struggling to change the page name as it was showing this "User:Mdpperera/sandbox" but I actually did not know how to do that. Could you please assist with this. Thanks tons and apricate your time and kindness.

Best, mdpperera @Mdpperera: Reads like a combination resume and book blurb. Please read the pages linked in my deletion notice. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 17:49, 25 July 2021 (UTC)

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Pssstt

Regarding Samma (tribe), Wikipedia:General sanctions/South Asian social groups comes in handy.-- Jezebel's Ponyo^{bons mots} 17:21, 28 July 2021 (UTC)

@Ponyo: Thanks, but I hate that stuff and couldn't begin to log it. So, I guess I can avoid the paper work and just add SP as a regular admin action. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 17:23, 28 July 2021 (UTC)

I avoid the AE stuff like the plague, but the general sanctions are a bit easier to navigate. -- Jezebel's Ponyo^{bons mots} 17:26, 28 July 2021 (UTC)

Yech. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 17:28, 28 July 2021 (UTC)

Unprotection request for ASAP (Philippine TV program)

Hi, the vandalism on ASAP (Philippine TV program) (pending changes-protected) has greatly died down since you protected it on April 10. Plus, the page is frequently edited by both IP editors (constructively) and regulars, so it isn't a great candidate for this sort of protection, at least anymore. Thanks –Gladamas (talk · contribs) 19:49, 28 July 2021 (UTC)

 Done --Deepfriedokra (talk) 20:24, 28 July 2021 (UTC)

About My draft article

Hello , i want to know how to keep my article live (i'm a real popular personal) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Mahmoud_Mohammed_Mohammed_Farfour

thanks

Please read the messages I left on your talk page. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 07:20, 31 July 2021 (UTC)

Username

but there is no such organization by that name currently. I can change the user name if you think it is not ok

And yet you were editing about a connected subject. Thanks you for changing your user name. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 07:22, 31 July 2021 (UTC)

Courtesy note

Hi - just letting you know that I changed your protection level from PC to semi at Leigh Griffiths (and did a bunch of revdelling). Same duration (roughly). Cheers Girth Summit _(blether) 15:57, 31 July 2021 (UTC)

UTRS query

Hey. If someone's email is disabled, can they still access UTRS? Thanks! El_C 13:06, 2 August 2021 (UTC)

@El C:I should think so. Yes I just handled such a one. They cannot use the WIkipedia email function, but they can still use their personal email to UTRS. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 14:05, 2 August 2021 (UTC)

And this is why I'm selective about to whom I send emails. They then have my W email in their contacts, and disabling W email no longer stops them. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 14:08, 2 August 2021 (UTC)

Cool, thanks, that's good to know. El_C 14:10, 2 August 2021 (UTC).

Edits are not Vandalism so re-check please

Hello, You semi-locked the China Olympic page after you saw my edits and had ruled them as persistent vandalism in your summary. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:MobileDiff/1036915219 But I really don't believe you looked into it. And had judged too fast. This was my edit. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:MobileDiff/1036785791

I removed a paragraph simply because a few individual and anonymous trolls can't and shouldn't really represent a whole country. To claim that an entire country or two governments are angry after a badminton match is absurd.

You can not point to a dozen anonymous individuals cherrypicked on a forum and claim that they represent an entire country. Why would a couple of internet trolls suddenly represent the whole country? It's not balanced nor accurate to claim that.

Dr Schneider and other experts noted however, that these angry reactionary nationalists most likely do not represent the Chinese majority
Dr Hassid said: "If the only voices consistently allowed are the loudest nationalists, we should not be surprised that their voices can dominate online discussion far out of proportion to their actual numbers."
Amid the outrage seen on Weibo, there was also wide support for Team China, with some calling out the trolls for being "unreasonable".

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-58024068

If however I am wrong about this. I do apologise. But I feel it's not accurate to claim that a couple hundred internet trolls is suddenly the official representatives of a large nation. And why I feel you are mistaken to rule me a persistent vandal here for removing those edits, and that my edits were of good faith. Thanks!49.195.39.151 (talk) 14:42, 3 August 2021 (UTC)

You should probably discuss content and sourcing on the talk page. You can also make an WP:edit request on the talk page. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 16:09, 3 August 2021 (UTC)

I just want to stop by here and say that I am also against the semi protection decision on China at the 2020 Summer Olympics. The one who vandals is actually the one who asks for protection to his advantage. You are a bad admin. I have no badges for you. --阿pp (talk) 03:09, 7 August 2021 (UTC)

Question about an old ban

Hi – I noticed that you were somewhat involved in my request last year. Thank you for that btw. I hardly edited en.wikipeida since my ban was lifted. During this pandemic (which is stressful enough) I was promoted which leaves me with even less time to contribute to Wikipedia - may that be in German or English. Having said that I am aware that I am still banned to edit on anything to do with Japan – a far as I am aware of at least. My question might sound terribly stupid, but where do I turn to for the ban to be lifted? I do not intend to edit articles on Japan as such, it’s just that with some edits I would like to be able to comment on the respective talk page.--Catflap08 (talk) 18:45, 3 August 2021 (UTC)

@Catflap08: You would request at WP:AN. Probably pose the request as you did here. We won't know unless you try. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 19:18, 3 August 2021 (UTC)

@Deepfriedokra: Thanks for responding so fast. As I said there is no rush anyway. Cheers.--Catflap08 (talk) 19:29, 3 August 2021 (UTC)

Keegscee

Thank you for protecting my user page, suppressing the libelous edits, and installing the rangeblock for the Keegscee socks. Is there any chance of you suppressing the other edits he made to my page, which were clearly intended to impersonate and defame User:LBHS Cheerleader (because she used to make edits like that before she grew out of being silly). I know her because she contacted me off-wiki a long time ago to apologize (in person, actually, but that's as specific as I'm going to get) for her past behavior, and it upsets her a lot when Keegscee does things like that, to the extent she has said he is a main reason why she will likely never return to Wikipedia. PCHS-NJROTC ^{(Messages)Have a blessed day.} 17:08, 5 August 2021 (UTC)

@PCHS-NJROTC: U R welcome. Check my work. I took the liberty of revdeling edits from the blocked name accounts for the sake of thoroughness. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 18:09, 5 August 2021 (UTC)

Thank you! PCHS-NJROTC ^{(Messages)Have a blessed day.} 21:22, 5 August 2021 (UTC)

anytime. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 21:28, 5 August 2021 (UTC)

(E/C)The only thing that you missed was the edit summary for this edit is mildly disruptive in that it was obviously intended to be hurt LBHS Cheerleader by mocking the teenage version of her (why he is being mean to a girl who literally never did anything to him is beyond me, but it is what it is). The edit itself wasn't terrible, it was just incorrect (Dunakey has worked for both PCHS and LBHS). I half wonder if we ought to protect Port Charlotte High School and Lemon Bay High School as Keegscee targets; I hate to do that as it prevents legitimate edits from IPs and newbies, but sometimes we have to do what we have to do to stop disruption. But again, thanks! PCHS-NJROTC ^{(Messages)Have a blessed day.} 21:35, 5 August 2021 (UTC)

am i doing this right? uhhhh

I don't know how user talk works or how to message other users on this platform, but I would like to apologize for my disruptive editing on the Wikipedia page for The Suicide Squad which caused you to protect it. I've just gotten back home from seeing the movie, and I got a little gung-ho about one of the vague details on the article, specifically the one regarding the deaths of the Suicide Squad's A-Team. Since I made you lock it for over a month, I guess I gave you the impression that I may have been trolling or going overboard (which I probably did), and for that, I sincerely apologize.

Edl411 (talk) 01:05, 8 August 2021 (UTC)edl411

Urgent

The account is abusing very harshly using vulgar terms and using racism, communalism. The below links I have attached shows the behaviour. Please take immediate action.

https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Tamilianda https://hi.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%A4%B8%E0%A4%A6%E0%A4%B8%E0%A5%8D%E0%A4%AF_%E0%A4%B5%E0%A4%BE%E0%A4%B0%E0%A5%8D%E0%A4%A4%E0%A4%BE:Tamilianda

The harassing account is in Hindi wikipidea परवीनसिंहमिश्र4 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) https://hi.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%A4%B8%E0%A4%A6%E0%A4%B8%E0%A5%8D%E0%A4%AF_%E0%A4%B5%E0%A4%BE%E0%A4%B0%E0%A5%8D%E0%A4%A4%E0%A4%BE:%E0%A4%AA%E0%A4%B0%E0%A4%B5%E0%A5%80%E0%A4%A8%E0%A4%B8%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%82%E0%A4%B9%E0%A4%AE%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%B6%E0%A5%8D%E0%A4%B04

Tamilianda (talk) 11:08, 9 August 2021 (UTC)

DFO, I've gone to meta to request a global lock of the account that Tamilindia is reporting here (they also posted at ANI). Girth Summit _(blether) 11:15, 9 August 2021 (UTC)

Deletion of edit summaries

Thanks for semi-protecting Velayudham and Vettaikaaran (2009 film) - although the dispute at Velayudham has resumed between 2 autoconfirmed editors‎

You asked me if I thought you should delete the edit summaries - well it depends on your level of tolerance
One of the English summaries was "I don't need consensus to bang your mommy. She is my favorite c*m swallowing wh*re and will always be." and, although my knowledge of Tamil slang is poor, the rest seem to be in the same vein
I can recognize "thevdiya" = "whore", "otha" = "f*ck your mum", "punda" = "c*nt", "Panni" = "pig" and "paal" = "tit" - so, I'd advise removing all the Tamil summaries and the English one above - let's see if this post gets through the edit filter - best wishes - Arjayay (talk) 14:37, 9 August 2021 (UTC)

@Arjayay: difs, please. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 15:22, 9 August 2021 (UTC)

I read English and a little German. Anything in a non-Latin script is incomprehensible to me. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 15:23, 9 August 2021 (UTC)

User:Girth Summit has removed all the relevant edit summaries from Velayudham's history; which just leaves the 5 from Vettaikaaran (2009 film) - 10:16, 9 August 2021‎ and 4 in a row - 11:28, 11:25, 11:14, and 11:05, 9 August 2021‎ - best wishes - Arjayay (talk) 16:44, 9 August 2021 (UTC)

Arjayay, I started out being rigorous about it, but I got so sick of cutting and pasting stuff into Google translate just to see another disgusting sexual boast/threat that I just said 'fuck it' and revdeleted anything that wasn't in English. I also blocked one of the accounts that started the edit warring again after the semi protection was applied, and warned the other one to go to the talk page. I don't get how it's possible to get that angry about the budget of a film; I assume there's more to it than that... Girth Summit _(blether) 16:53, 9 August 2021 (UTC)

User:Girth Summit - thanks for your deletions - as for your observations, I fully agree. It sounds ridiculous, but fans of Indian film stars can be as mindlessly partisan as English football fans in the 1980's - doing anything to promote the abilities of their "star", and denigrate any opposition - Arjayay (talk) 19:52, 9 August 2021 (UTC)

Restoration of Discovery Center of Idaho

Hey, This was probably poorly written by OP, but it is actually a Children's Museum. One of those "Hands on" deals. Can I get the old article restored INTO my sandbox; till I can revamp it? (IF, it still exists...) Delete log - Mjquinn_id (talk) 02:00, 10 August 2021 (UTC)

@Mjquinn id: Sorry for the delay. I've been alternating between a wikibreak and an unfolding melodrama. (that increases my need for a wikibreak) Unfortunately, it was WP:ARTSPAM sourced entirely to the subject. There is also a question of WP:UPE. It will need to be written from scratch using reliable, verifiable independent sources. It would be best done via WP:AfC to allow the article to be rebuilt carefully with a minimum of disruption. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 18:37, 11 August 2021 (UTC)

My deepest gratitude for looking it up. I will work on it...at some point...I was hoping just to unload weasel words, etc. Also, my deepest condolances on whatever melodrama. It is both shocking and not; that WP:CIVIL seems to be taking a vacation. Mjquinn_id (talk) 20:11, 11 August 2021 (UTC)

108.167.78.36/UTRS appeal #43648

Hey, just wanted to give you a heads up. The above user, which you denied a UTRS appeal on a couple months ago, is editing currently under this IP. The user has a history of editing under Google Fiber IPv6 IPs out of Kansas City, while his IPv4 IP (registered to Charter, also out of Kansas City) is blocked. I have alerted the blocking admin to this as well. Just covering all bases. - Neutralhomer • Talk • 02:36, 10 August 2021 (UTC)

Taken care of by HighInBC and Izno. - Neutralhomer • Talk • 04:22, 10 August 2021 (UTC)

Thanks!

Thanks. Just noting you missed one, can you get it? — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 21:03, 13 August 2021 (UTC)

@Alexis Jazz:No! Thank you --Deepfriedokra (talk) 21:06, 13 August 2021 (UTC)

Thank you

Thank you for assisting in the appeal. I can see here that you are doing a lot of good work for Wikipedia.

I hope this edit is not a violation of the topic-ban. --Wickey (talk) 09:47, 14 August 2021 (UTC)

Regarding your note on Khaitan Public School, Ghaziabad

Hi, This is in regards to your note on my request for protection of articles Khaitan Public School, Ghaziabad wherein you mentioned Someone needs a block, but who? Looks like a content dispute. Maybe some serious BLP issues. Needs soeone more awake.. I am not sure why you feel this to be merely a content issue. If you see the history of content of this article, you would see the critical content is removed using multiple users or IP. This specific user has been removing all critical content and posting content that is promotional in nature.

The critical content that were added to the articles have been provided with proper references including those from reputed national media. I understand that Wikipedia is not a place for promotional content. To maintain content neutrality the critical contents that is verifiable should be allowed to be posted.

Also, if you feel any promotional content has been posted by me that is unverifiable or is against the values and ethics of Wikipedia than do let me know, I'll stand corrected and voluntarily delete my account. I am pained as your comment appear to suggest that my request is motivated. Advait.kansal (talk) 08:40, 16 August 2021 (UTC)

@Advait.kansal: Like I said, someone more awake needs to look at it. Thanks. Maybe Favonian (waves) --Deepfriedokra (talk) 10:24, 16 August 2021 (UTC)

I'm scarcely more awake, but Vidhan Sundriyal (talk · contribs) probably needs protection from themselves. I had to revert/delete some very misguided attempts to get the article deleted. I'll try to monitor the situation, but I cannot promise to devote full attention, such as it is, to the task. Favonian (talk) 10:41, 16 August 2021 (UTC)

@Favonian: Thanks. Probably best is to partial block Vidhan Sundriya for edit warring or disruption . We can't watch all 5,000,000 articles. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 10:47, 16 August 2021 (UTC)

Favonian & Deepfriedokra - Thanks you both for your time and effort. However please note today again the content of the page have been vandalized using an IP based account. Advait.kansal (talk) 08:41, 18 August 2021 (UTC)

AC comment

First: Not finding fault in the least - you have total respect from me. So .. IMO this particular iteration of the committee seem to focus more on the trees rather than the forest, so I wouldn't hold out much hope of them looking deeply enough to address your observation. They don't seem interested in evidence, or at least not any of the surrounding circumstances. I'm not saying that individually they're all like this (one in particular seems to research quite extensively, and goes to great lengths to respond to any concerns). I'm not blaming any of the individuals, or even attempting a condemnation statement on the AC; just saying that any tangents from the BHG case that should be addressed will likely require a detailed and specific separate case to be filed - at least with this particular group. Just all IMO. — Ched (talk) 17:49, 17 August 2021 (UTC)

UTRS

Are in TPW's admins who read/write Hindi? UTRS appeal #46974. I did not get through the first time. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 01:49, 19 August 2021 (UTC)

Oh never mind. Dealt with by an English speaker, and I suppose a loyal subject of HM. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 08:27, 19 August 2021 (UTC)

Protect Coimbatore

I have just reverted all Vandalisations in the page Coimbatore. It is very sensible article and politically sensible. Please do extended protection for it.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 10mmuser (talk • contribs)

Please see Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Sweetindian. ThanksSUN EYE 1

@10mmuser: I see you ae blocked. That pretty well dampens my respnose. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 08:22, 19 August 2021 (UTC)

@Suneye1: I've found in this instance, "sweet Indian" is a misnomer. (sigh). --Deepfriedokra (talk) 08:24, 19 August 2021 (UTC)

yes, lol, always has been.[35][36]. SUN EYE 1 08:46, 19 August 2021 (UTC)

Those EC might reduce the socking aftera ll (giggle). --Deepfriedokra (talk) 08:25, 19 August 2021 (UTC)

@Suneye1: Rs200 PER EDIT AGAINST INDIA AND ADMK? Where do I sign up?! --Deepfriedokra (talk) 08:50, 19 August 2021 (UTC)

lol, that's a social media slang SUN EYE 1 09:05, 19 August 2021 (UTC)

😥 --Deepfriedokra (talk) 12:36, 19 August 2021 (UTC)

Canadian Broadcasting Corporation

We need three more revisions deleted from that article's history, ones saved at 11:25 and 21:01 UTC on 8/21. Are you able to do that? --  Denelson83  00:13, 22 August 2021 (UTC)

checking. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 01:35, 22 August 2021 (UTC)

@Denelson83: Dif's please? --Deepfriedokra (talk) 01:39, 22 August 2021 (UTC)

It turns out the revisions in question are on the talk page, Talk:Canadian Broadcasting Corporation. Sorry if I misled you. Here are the difs.

• https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Canadian_Broadcasting_Corporation&diff=1039964204&oldid=1039964131
• https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Canadian_Broadcasting_Corporation&diff=1039964131&oldid=1039908085
• https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Canadian_Broadcasting_Corporation&diff=1039890529&oldid=1036311430

--  Denelson83  02:00, 22 August 2021 (UTC)

@Denelson83: Thanks, I think I got them --Deepfriedokra (talk) 02:11, 22 August 2021 (UTC)

Regarding Pahonia (disambiguation)

@Deepfriedokra: Hi, word Pahonia is one of the historical names of the Coat of arms of Lithuania, thus such page as Pahonia (disambiguation) should not exist as such solution was rejected by the RFC at Talk:Pahonia#RFC: Pahonia (RFC closing statement by an administrator). The decision was suggestion A, not suggestion B. Now some users arbitrarily implemented WP:CONS of the RFC in a completely different way. The main problem with existence of a separate page for Pahonia is that it gives a Belarusian/Ruthenian language name of the Lithuanian coat of arms a supremacy over other names (e.g. Lithuanian language counterparts Vytis, Waikymas). That's why WP:CONS was to keep Coat of arms of Lithuania and National emblem of Belarus only. -- Pofka (talk) 19:30, 24 August 2021 (UTC)

@Deepfriedokra: Moreover, if you check points of this disambiguation page (e.g. "Pahonia (newspaper, 1992)" or "Pahonia (newspaper, 1920)"), they redirect to articles in the Belarusian Wikipedia. That's an absurd. Identical articles in the Lithuanian Wikipedia would be called "Vytis (laikraštis, 1992)" (laikraštis = newspaper in Lithuanian) because we do not use this Belarusian/Ruthenian word. The equivalent of Pahonia / Vytis in the English language would be Chase. That's why this dispute was very hot and the decision was that the "right" name of this symbol, which would satisfy WP:NPOV, does not exist. Please delete page Pahonia (disambiguation) to ensure WP:NPOV. -- Pofka (talk) 19:51, 24 August 2021 (UTC)

@Pofka: Thanks for your note. Those are not problems amenable to page protection. You might want to discuss the page's problems on the talk page and/or nominate for deletion. Best. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 19:55, 24 August 2021 (UTC)

I have it on good authority that WP:AfD is the correct venue for deletion discussions about disambiguation pages. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 19:57, 24 August 2021 (UTC)

Craniosacral therapy

From my point of view as an Engineer and someone who studied a diploma in CranioSacral Therapy, almost every aspect of this article is both misleading and comes across as biased.

Yes you may say the anecdotal claims of Cst practitioners are unsubstantiated by science, this is fine - as someone who's life has been dramatically affected by such treatments and at the same time an analytical thinker I can fully acknowledge it does not lend easily itself to scientific validation - changes are often happening on levels that aren't easily quantified - where for example is the grief of tragically losing a child stored in the human biological system, or the echoes of childhood abuse? But to gather together bunches of disparate sources and create a narrative that is distinctly against the modality seems blatantly unscientific to me also. Almost every sentence contains editorial views. Why for example is the American Cancer society used as a primary source? I have never once worked on someone with Cancer nor any of my colleagues that I know of. I would refer that person to an oncology ward. But if someone comes in with chronic anxiety /depression/migraines/insomnia etc - this is closer to CST's forte. To take one claim and then one refuting of the claim as evidence seems to be starting with a theory (that it's "quackery" ) and then finding evidence to fit that theory. To use the word quackery in the opening paragraph is also very biased language - whatever it's scientific definition may be, in common terms it is understood to mean something that is false & a scam, which does not match at all with the reality - in the diploma I studied it takes up to a year just to develop the sensorary awareness required to detect the field phenomena associated with CST, there is a rigorous study of anatomy, physiology & pathology, clinical shadowing, supervision etc. Like I said it does not lend itself easily to scientific evaluation, but the article as it currently stands is staggeringly misleading and unrepresentitive of the reality on the ground - at the very least the language could be cleaned up to take out the obvious bias & editorial flavour - and at the best simply state that as yet there has been no scientifically rigorous conclusive study to prove or deny the efficacy of CST as a modality.

Any scientific studies quoted based on the 'claimed anatomical basis' do not hold any water as the anatomical basis is simply not fully understood and this is well accepted by most reputable schools of cst - however there are physiological correlations to what is felt when one has developed the capacity to palate the various tidal fields, and so this anatomy is taught - but it is understood that really it's extremely effective for helping change to occur at a very deep level, and the feeling of what is happening and why it is healing is clearly intuitively felt at the time, but the mechanism itself is not yet fully understood - much like why when someone is in emotional pain and you instinctively hug them and then later intuitively let them go when the time is right - something in us knows, but the mechanism is not so obvious. In Engineering fields this lack of scientific rigor isn't acceptable but when dealing with the ache of grief in someone's heart for example, or the rage at their father that is manifesting as back pain, an understanding of how it helps pales next to the fact that time and time again people experience that it does help. This is why I believe any objections to the therapy in the article based solely on the anatomical 'claims' of what is happening should not form a substantial basis of the article - a side note if needed, but not a main objection

Thanks Mjeddy (talk) 20:51, 24 August 2021 (UTC)

Davor D.

Another team member resigned in protest; someone needs to carry on the mission. — Biruitorul ^Talk 18:12, 26 August 2021 (UTC)

Shocked, shocked to learn that our efforts to make money off your encyclopedia are being thwarted by silly things like WP:NPOV and WP:RS! --Deepfriedokra (talk) 18:14, 26 August 2021 (UTC)

It looks like the team has finished work. I know that tag gets under their (his?) skin, but if anything, the article is now even more promotional. — Biruitorul ^Talk 15:24, 30 August 2021 (UTC)

Hmm. indeed. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 16:25, 30 August 2021 (UTC)

Removal of engines on the list of visual novel engines

Hi, why did you removed NVList?
The engine is well-known by people who use the famous solution made by the same developer, VNDS.
Same goes for TyranoBuilder, this one is a very popular engine, among Western and Eastern communities.
--31NOVA (talk) 07:59, 31 August 2021 (UTC)

@31NOVA: Thanks for the note. The content was promotional with a non WP:RS link. It was spam. "All content must be cited from reliable sources that are unconnected with the subject and have a reputation for fact checking." --Deepfriedokra (talk) 10:40, 31 August 2021 (UTC)

Blackmailing article posted

Hi someone published my client name and added a false article that was written as a blackmail. The even in the story never happened and if you read the comments people are make on it you will notice that he is not the only victim to the writers quest for money. Pls help, ‘ Chukwuka Samuel Chibueze’ Sinleads (talk) 06:18, 2 September 2021 (UTC)

@Sinleads: You need to raise concerns about the content at WP:BLPN. You need to email the WMF about the blackmail-- ca(_AT_)wikimedia.org . Hope that helps.

@Sinleads: I removed and revdel'd the poorly sourced negative WP:BLP. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 06:44, 2 September 2021 (UTC)

Thanks —— Sinleads (talk) 10:16, 2 September 2021 (UTC)

Youth Defence - Thanks

Thanks for the page protection, and for revdeling the edit! BubbaJoe123456 (talk) 19:16, 7 September 2021 (UTC)

Sangbad Pratidin

Sangbad Pratidin was not moved by admin Liz. It was done as an act of vandalism. See logs [37]. Andlol17 has done that since Draft:Ranaghat News ‎ was declined (see [38] and [39]) and in revenge. See proof [40] for Bartaman and [41] for Sangbad Pratidin. Also @Titodutta: for views. 2409:4061:2C85:9787:51F7:1B0B:9DAC:9466 (talk) 15:14, 9 September 2021 (UTC)

Yes, @Titodutta:. damn tremorsInterested in your views as this clearly has not been shown to meet WP:NCORP, and 2409:4061:2C85:9787:51F7:1B0B:9DAC:9466 looks like they have a WP:COI. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 15:16, 9 September 2021 (UTC)

@Sdrqaz: You moved another page that looks dratifiable. Need your input. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 15:19, 9 September 2021 (UTC)

@Deepfriedokra: I having nothing to do, I came across Sangbad Pratidin as part of my school project info, and now found its gone and moved to draft. 2409:4061:2C85:9787:51F7:1B0B:9DAC:9466 (talk) 15:21, 9 September 2021 (UTC)

You might want to report Andlol17 at WP:ANI. Awaiting more feed back. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 15:23, 9 September 2021 (UTC)

I am Andlol17 reporting at WP:ANI. Its really a shame how a person is removing articles since their drafts Draft:Ranaghat News got rejected 2409:4061:2C85:9787:51F7:1B0B:9DAC:9466 (talk) 15:28, 9 September 2021 (UTC)

I was just in the process of writing up an ANI report when the other IP decided to ping a load of other people, I'll post something in a minute. 192.76.8.74 (talk) 15:28, 9 September 2021 (UTC)

@192.76.8.74: I am waiting for my fellow IP editor to post a complaint. This is ridiculous. 2409:4061:2C85:9787:51F7:1B0B:9DAC:9466 (talk) 15:31, 9 September 2021 (UTC)

Give me a minuite, I'm getting the diffs together. 192.76.8.74 (talk) 15:34, 9 September 2021 (UTC)

@192.76.8.74: please go ahead and report. Also, @Deepfriedokra: Andlol17 is operating one more account Weboproj by removing your comments (proof) and working on Draft:Ranaghat News. 2409:4061:2C85:9787:51F7:1B0B:9DAC:9466 (talk) 15:44, 9 September 2021 (UTC)

Done Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#Andlol17, disruptive editing and out of process draftifications 192.76.8.74 (talk) 15:54, 9 September 2021 (UTC)

I assume we're talking about my move of Bartaman. Per WP:DRAFTIFY, draftifications should only be carried out in a few instances: following an AfD, when the creator has a COI, or during new page patrol. Given the page had been in the mainspace since 2005 and none of them applied (okay, maybe the creator had a COI going off Special:Diff/23752861, but so many people have edited it since that it's basically moot), it's far more desirable to put it through AfD than draftify it and probably get it deleted after half a year. For me, the same applies to Sangbad Pratidin – it's been in the mainspace since 2006 and the ship has sailed long ago as far as NPP is concerned. Also relevant but ignored by most NPPers: WP:DRAFTOBJECT states that if an editor raises an objection to draftification it should be moved back to mainspace and AfD should be used. I'd argue that doesn't hold for COI and paid editors (their work really should go through AfC), but that doesn't come into play for Bartaman and Sangbad Pratidin. I'd advocate keeping it in the mainspace, especially given how long it's been there. Sdrqaz (talk) 15:47, 9 September 2021 (UTC)

@Sdrqaz: thanks for a through and logical explanation. I don't know how to report at WP:ANI. One of the fellow IP editor 192.76.8.74 said he/she will do it. Also,Andlol17 is operating one more account Weboproj and fooling us. That needs to be stopped. 2409:4061:2C85:9787:51F7:1B0B:9DAC:9466 (talk) 15:51, 9 September 2021 (UTC)

I suppose I need to give you one of these even though it was your suggestion to take it to ANI:

There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you.192.76.8.74 (talk) 15:54, 9 September 2021 (UTC)

• (edit conflict) Hello, thanks for your messages (actually I have not received the ping notifications yet for some reason). Let's note: there are two things: a) article notability— I feel, the article meets notability, and yes, the article needs sourcing improvement. There are several/many works on Google Books Pratidin newspaper, Sangbad Pratidin etc. Other than English sources, we can also see Bengali sources. So, notability is one thing. 2) the move by the editor — whether it is disruptive edit/vandalism. The article was moved after a local newspaper (not regional) draft was not accepted. Hopefully we will come to a consensus here that will solve #1, which will make things easier. --Titodutta (talk) 16:03, 9 September 2021 (UTC)

@Titodutta: I have notified you of the ANI discussion. 2409:4061:2C85:9787:51F7:1B0B:9DAC:9466 (talk) 16:12, 9 September 2021 (UTC)

Apologies to everyone. I am an idiot. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 17:31, 9 September 2021 (UTC)

Hi, As I see some wikipage has nominal citeation and ref that page is going to mark as draft for improving. I've not delete the page/article, I just marked it as draft because of nominal citeation as newspaper. Yes, I am first time to create a page but removed to draft because of nominal citeation as same.

Which does not mean I take revange on it. If I make page move to draft is my fault then I am really sorry about it.

My intention was to improve wikipage and information that's it. Andlol17 (talk) 16:44, 9 September 2021 (UTC)

Barnstar

		The Admin's Barnstar
		I didn't think I'd be disappointed with your reply at ANI, but nor did I expect to be so thoroughly impressed. This reply makes me want to RFA you all over again just to draw attention to it. The self-reflection, abundance of caution, and constant referral back to the community are exactly what we hope to see from admins. Keep up the outstanding work. St★lwart111 02:49, 10 September 2021 (UTC)

@Stalwart111: Thanks. Every admin action I take, I take as an obligation to express the will of the Community, and I reflect upon it as such.. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 03:06, 10 September 2021 (UTC)

your protection of Draft:Dario Bisso Sabàdin

Article has been declined or rejected 14 times. Protection expired, IPs have resubmitted it with zero changes to the article, and deleted the previous failed submissions twice. Meters (talk) 21:34, 12 September 2021 (UTC) @Meters: Let's keep it as a honeypot. I'll watch it and can take action against the socks. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 21:37, 12 September 2021 (UTC)

OK Meters (talk) 21:37, 12 September 2021 (UTC)

@Meters: Is there any hope for the thing? WP:MfD? --Deepfriedokra (talk) 21:44, 12 September 2021 (UTC)

I believe this comes under WP:DIRECTOR and WP:NMUSIC, since he's both. Not my area but I'm not seeing any real claim to notability, and some of the sources are just weak mentions in passing ("Sabàdin and his orchestra are playing here on such and such a date" type mentions). The unsourced comments that he "met" the notables Zubin Mehta and Lorin Maazel are telling. If unsourced trivia about him having met other conductors is the best we have, there's no point in continuing this. After 15 failed submissions, some with no changes at all, this is disruptive. Meters (talk) 22:00, 12 September 2021 (UTC)

Sounds MFDable. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 22:02, 12 September 2021 (UTC)

I did a quick search and found no usable news coverage but, as I said, music is not my area so others with more experience there may be able to dig up something. Meters (talk) 22:06, 12 September 2021 (UTC)

Forgot to say that drafts are not subject to MFD on notability grounds. Meters (talk) 22:09, 12 September 2021 (UTC)

Ouch. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 22:10, 12 September 2021 (UTC)

I should have reread the thing. It continues with "A draft that has been repeatedly resubmitted and declined at AfC without any substantial improvement may be deleted at MfD if consensus determines that it is unlikely to ever meet the requirements for mainspace and it otherwise meets one of the reasons for deletion outlined in the deletion policy." so it's still a possibility. Meters (talk) 22:12, 12 September 2021 (UTC)

Indeed.

I thought after five rejections, they become MfDable. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 22:13, 12 September 2021 (UTC) @Meters: How do you like it now? --Deepfriedokra (talk) 22:19, 12 September 2021 (UTC)

The 5 rejections and you're out rule could well be. I find MFD to be rather strange (compared to AFD) so I don't spend much time there, and I don't know the ins and outs. For the life of me I still can't understand why we should redirect rather than delete a two or three-line stub draft on something we already have in article space.

The 12 month semi would have let it time out if no confirmed editors took it on, but the straight deletion works too. Thanks. Meters (talk) 22:29, 12 September 2021 (UTC)

Comment at ArbE

Hi there! Just FYI, Boodlesthecat previously described a usage of she/her pronouns as misgendering, and you may want to rephrase your comment at ArbE. Thanks, Firefangledfeathers (talk) 17:15, 13 September 2021 (UTC)

@Firefangledfeathers: Thanks. How is one to know? When I mouse over, it does not say. And the "penises" comment really confused me. I saw no indicator on Boodles talk page. What is Boodles pronoun of choice? --Deepfriedokra (talk) 17:23, 13 September 2021 (UTC)

I don't know either! I figure "not she/her" is the most info we have right now. Your comment still has one "her", FYI. Firefangledfeathers (talk) 17:26, 13 September 2021 (UTC)

Block on Boodlesthecat

Hello,

In your comment at the Arbitration Enforcement noticeboard discussionBoodlesthecat, you wrote I think the "penises" comment quoted above shows 1) Boodles is emotionally engaged with this issue and therefore 2) has an insurmountable WP:COI in this subject area due to Boodles visceral response. The more visceral the response we have in content matters, (apart from SPAM, I guess) the more circumspect we must be in editing an encyclopedia. This being a visceral response, it is probably uncontrollable, so Boodles should edit in other areas. At this point, I do not think Boodles is capable of doing that without Community support-- a TBAN, or partial block, or both

I find this attribution to some supposed emotional state on my part offensive. I have made fact based arguments for every edit I have made, discussed at length on the talk pages, and have engaged with editors who are obstinate in preferring their POV rather than simple facts.

My offending "penises" comment, if you read what I wrote in the talk page, was in the context of the use of the term "TERF" as being seen as a slur by some. I gave the example of it being tossed at an apolitical biological woman who simply has an abhorrence to be naked and vulnerable in the presence of penises in spaces which she expects not to be. Are you saying such women don't exist? Or if they exist, we cannot describe them in simple English because the very words used to describe this woman is somehow offensive to some? How would you describe such a woman? Perhaps one who is a rape survivor who is triggered by penises/male genitalia?

Similar, ideological/personal biases of other editors insist on blocking simple, factual mention that the LAPD has both considered the suspect to be a male, and cannot confirm their gender identity. So, due to biases of editors, we supposedly cannot say something like "the LAPD has described the suspect as male" even though it is a naked fact, and entirely pertinent to the police claim that the suspect pretends to be trans to commit sex crimes in women's spaces, and likely hints at what the prosecution will be claiming. I've simply countered, through discussion, the reality that we can't change actual salient facts (LAPD is claiming the suspect is male) simply because someone doesn't like that. That's something to take up with the LAPD. Changing facts in WP is not the way to for these "emotionally engaged" editors to deal with their feelings. I would appreciate it if people commenting on this case and recommending some sort of sanctions would deal with the facts, rather than their own "visceral" "emotionally engaged" responses before supporting arbitrary, one side actions. Boodlesthecat ^Meow? 18:08, 13 September 2021 (UTC)

Waving back :)

👋 Thanks for all your work. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 19:59, 13 September 2021 (UTC)

Pronouns

I believe Boodlesthecat uses they/them pronouns onwiki: [42] GorillaWarfare (she/her • talk) 19:30, 14 September 2021 (UTC)

@GorillaWarfare: Thanks. i jsut jumped up from my nap to fix that and saw your note. They can set their preferences so one can tell with a mouse over. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 19:43, 14 September 2021 (UTC)

Or, as it's important, they can put it in ther signature. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 19:44, 14 September 2021 (UTC)

Exxess

Will you be the one to remove UTRS access following appeal #48136, or are you still recusing yourself? If the latter, let me know, and I'll pass the request on to someone else. We are well past the point where it's damned obvious it has to happen. JBW (talk) 12:39, 15 September 2021 (UTC)

@JBW:If you can tell our friend the bad news. You can go ahead and do the decline. I've got it bookmarked. They basically demanded my recusal, so it would be bad form for me to decline. But it will be a pleasure to ban them. Thanks for taking care of the decline. I have one other thing to do first. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 13:35, 15 September 2021 (UTC)

 Done Aptly named, no? --Deepfriedokra (talk) 13:42, 15 September 2021 (UTC)

Yes! 😉 JBW (talk) 15:33, 15 September 2021 (UTC)

Barnstar

		The Invisible Barnstar
		For making great contributions to multiple areas of Wikipedia without seeking any recognition or reward for your contributions. - Falcon talk 18:45, 15 September 2021 (UTC)

pings

I think Your should[43] sign again for pings to work per WP:MENTION though I am not 100% sure --Shrike (talk) 06:49, 16 September 2021 (UTC)

@Shrike: Thanks. I'll look. I think I made enough pings in that last string of posts for it to work. Don't want to annoy people with massive pings before they get a chance to answer. --Deepfriedokra (talk)

Yeah, he/she/they responded. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 06:55, 16 September 2021 (UTC)

Block request

Hi Deepfriedokra, this ip user, 95.249.115.65 is posting same warnings to SteelSteel22 after 79.53.215.211 is blocked, could you please block this ip user, thank you! --122.11.212.250 (talk) 04:49, 18 September 2021 (UTC)

User(s) blocked., Semi-protected. weirdness. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 12:10, 18 September 2021 (UTC)

Elf Sternberg

Hi Deepfriedokra (do we call you DFO? or is that too cheeky?). Thanks for your help here with a rangeblock. As i read it, the block will have lifted this morning; i have already had to revert one of the IP edits to the article in question. Is there anything further we can do, or just keep watching? Thanks. Happy days ~ Lindsay^Hello 10:57, 18 September 2021 (UTC)

Thank you for the protection. Happy days ~ Lindsay^Hello 13:59, 18 September 2021 (UTC)

Carlin-level wit award

	Carlin-level wit award
	This is the best follow up reply I've seen in... forever (my reply + added context). Well deserved, wit master! Kind regards, El_C 15:21, 18 September 2021 (UTC)

meh --Deepfriedokra (talk) 16:30, 18 September 2021 (UTC)

Well, I was impressed / took me on a loop. Sorry for imposing. El_C 16:41, 18 September 2021 (UTC)

@El C: Never an imposition. I just can't take credit. Happy accident. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 17:13, 18 September 2021 (UTC)

Oh. I mean, I felt like you responding to my neither solely intrinsic ethical imperative nor solely extrinsic utility viewpoint as, itself, amounting to a form of utility, to have been pretty brilliant. But I guess I misunderstood your original intent...? Oh well. Take it easy. El_C 17:24, 18 September 2021 (UTC)

Oh, I'm never brilliant on purpose. Sometimes I get lucky. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 17:26, 18 September 2021 (UTC)

Civility / Your Threats

Hi, I was wondering why you are threatening me on my talk page? This was completely unwarranted and you are engaged in gang-like behavior. Please stop immediately.Xoltron (talk) 22:21, 18 September 2021 (UTC)

User(s) blocked. Special:permalink/1045148662#‎Xoltron --Deepfriedokra (talk) 07:29, 19 September 2021 (UTC)

Question about Marie Selby Botanical Gardens

Deepfriedokra, I don't know what you mean by making edit requests instead of editing the page. You just undid 2 hours of work that I did on the page, and I am supposed to fix it as part of my job now that the Gardens have adopted Historic Spanish Point, as I indicated in all editing.

They wanted me to consolidate all the info from the Historic Spanish Point page into one and add the info from the press release about the collaboration.

If you are someone with the power to edit the page for some reason even though you don't work for Selby, then maybe you can tell me how I'm supposed to change it back to the edits I made which reflects the updated information for the organization as it stands today. The old version that you reverted back to is incorrect now - isn't that what updates are for, to reflect new changes that make the old information obsolete? Jules at Marie Selby Botanical Gardens (talk) 17:55, 26 September 2021 (UTC) Jules at Marie Selby Botanical Gardens

@Jules at Marie Selby Botanical Gardens: Wikipedia is an encyclopedia. It is not the place for you to "update" at your employer's behest. You will need to propose changes on the talk pages. The best solution would be to find a reliable source and then request an edit noting the change in the article you want so badly to delete. As the subject was notable enough for its own encyclopedia article, it is still notable enough for its own encyclopedia article. You will need to be able to cite reliable sources. You could propose to merge the two articles on the talk page. The merged from article would then redirect to the merged to article. We must preserve the attributions of those who have edited the page. You will need to follow WP:PAID and disclose your status as an employee on those talk pages. Once again, we cannot simply delete pages you find inconvenient and copy paste the content for attribution reasons. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 17:20, 27 September 2021 (UTC)

@Jules at Marie Selby Botanical Gardens: I reverted the merge because regardless of who owns the entity, it's a separate property and can stand on its own article. Please be familiar with the Wikipedia guidelines before making such drastic changes. – The Grid (talk) 16:39, 29 September 2021 (UTC)

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Rename of User:Cnorloff now a possible impersonation

Did you notice that this account claims to be Carl Norloff, the new owner of the S & H Greenstamps franchise? --Orange Mike | Talk 16:09, 3 October 2021 (UTC)

@Orangemike: No. damn. Thanks. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 16:11, 3 October 2021 (UTC)

Not that I think he can convince anyone to unblock him. One more thing for him to do first. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 16:25, 3 October 2021 (UTC)

I think it is really touching though if the new owner is taking the time to edit the Wikipedia article himself. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 16:30, 3 October 2021 (UTC)

"Touching" is not the word that comes to my mind first. For all we know, it's a one-dude organization. Or alternatively, it's not really Norloff but his secretary or something. --Orange Mike | Talk 15:18, 4 October 2021 (UTC)

@Orangemike: And now, retired. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 15:38, 4 October 2021 (UTC)

My "Putin's Palace" arbitration request

CC: @Robert McClenon:

Sorry, haven't applied for arbitration before and probably have my priorities wrong. As a matter of fact, I did file to the "Fringe Theory" noticeboard. This produced a very quick appearance of several users creating an appearance of consent against my case using the same rather minor argument. I suspect they all work from the same room as my opponent.

I also did try to discus at the user's talk page! This produces non-constructive attempts to impress with very loud markup like large red exclamation marks and stop signs and quick consecutive removal of the thread. Also edited the text of my argument, making me look bad. Load markup presumably intended to emulate a privileged/admin level user (I copied it back)

I have not been able to introduce any external references proving my point, because every major Russian source (say RT) is now apparently officially untrustworthy for Wiki, whereas every minor Russian source is either too fringe or arbitrarily designated "pro-Kremlin". Any dodgy British tabloid is A-OK though.

Should I redo the link section completely or add more? I was under an impression that I just need to provide 2 samples of prior discussion and I picked the two diffs. Muchandr (talk)

@Muchandr: unless you have repeatedly been to such boards as WP:AN/I w/o remedy, it is not within ArbCom's purview. You must follow all the steps of WP:dispute resolution. The links you provided were not to discussions. This looks like a content dispute. Content disputes need to be resolved via dispute resolution. Only unresolved behavioral issues go to ANI and ArbCom. I do not become involved in content and sourcing disputes. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 13:09, 4 October 2021 (UTC)

The best place to discuss an issue about an article is the article talk page. That is why articles have talk pages. Try Talk:Putin's Palace. This works somewhat better than a user's talk page, especially if the user is one who doesn't discuss. Sometimes there are other editors who follow an article talk page. Also, I know that at least one dodgy British tabloid has been blacklisted, and that other Anglophone tabloids are sometimes restricted also, so making sloppy statements doesn't help. Robert McClenon (talk) 14:14, 4 October 2021 (UTC)

Where have I gone wrong?

I don't often nominate files for deletion. I'm now at a loss as to the next possible action. I can neither delete nor edit the image, either on en or on Commons. Deb (talk) 11:08, 5 October 2021 (UTC)

@Deb: Stunned and speechless. Which is quite an accomplishment. I cannot remember what template to use over there. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 12:17, 5 October 2021 (UTC)

Tagged the other two on commons. Easier than I thought. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 12:29, 5 October 2021 (UTC)

1 Ropemaker Street

Hi, a few years ago you indefinitely protected 1 Ropemaker Street. Do you think it's safe to remove it now? Anarchyte (talk) 10:22, 7 October 2021 (UTC)

@Anarchyte: Good grief! Please do. Must've been when i was new to page protection. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 11:48, 7 October 2021 (UTC)

 Done Oh, it was a redirect. We'll see how it goes. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 11:51, 7 October 2021 (UTC)

Gaming concern

Heya Deepfriedokra! Could you take a look at Span Calari (talk · contribs). Their contribs show they made a bunch of useless spacing changes to get to 500 and then started editing in the I-P topic area. A user asked them about their behavior a few weeks ago, and I explicitly asked them about gaming about a week ago. They aren't responding but are continuing to edit. Let me know if you'd prefer I file at AE/ANI, but I was hoping to skip the rigamarole. Thanks, Firefangledfeathers (talk) 19:03, 7 October 2021 (UTC)

@Firefangledfeathers: is this the right DSalert. {{subst:alert|a-i}} They've changed things around. Any talk page watching CU's feel a CU is warranted? I asked them to respond on their talk page. I hate to act unilaterally, so please file at ANI if they do not respond.20:41, 7 October 2021 (UTC) --Deepfriedokra (talk)

@Firefangledfeathers: If they continue editing w/o answering, I'll be forced to remove EC status. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 20:45, 7 October 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for checking it out. We’ll see what they do next. Firefangledfeathers (talk) 21:34, 7 October 2021 (UTC)

Gerda's October corner

October songs

Today: DYK #1700, and I uploaded images, mostly blue and green, for hope. - I haven't been called an angel for a long time, thank you! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:40, 8 October 2021 (UTC)

Today, mostly black&white, and standing upright as Psalm 15 says --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:19, 10 October 2021 (UTC)

Today: see yourself, read about a hymn praying to not be on earth in vain, about a comics artist whose characters have character (another collaboration of the "perennial gang", broken by one of us banned), and in memory of the last prima donna assoluta, Edita Gruberová. I had to go to two grave sites last week, one who died now, one who died 10 years ago, so standing upright and in black seems appropriate. More colours - but subdued - can be had on hikes, - updated. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:39, 20 October 2021 (UTC)

Attack Surface Edit

Hi,

Thanks for your note about my edit: it was helpful of you to clarify what is acceptable!

I'm a bit confused though: if you look at the page as it stands, there are already lots of links on the page that meet your description os what isn't acceptable. In fact there are no less than 4 links back to RiskIQ, all of which are near identical to the one I added.

Can you please clarify your position? Is it ok for some, but not others? It's just not clear to me as it stands.

Thanks in advance for your help!

Isambard Kingdom Brûlée (talk) 13:00, 13 October 2021 (UTC)

@Isambard Kingdom Brûlée: Thanks for your note. If you refer to the "see also" section, those are all links to Wikipedia articles, and are not spam. Yours was an external link to a company website and spam. Let me know if there is more spam there that needs removal. Thanks, --Deepfriedokra (talk) 13:17, 13 October 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for the speedy response! Did you look at the page? The reference section is full of links to external company web sites, no different to the one I added. I'm just wondering if you could provide me with some guidance about how you've chosen which to delete and which to keep! Thanks, Isambard Kingdom Brûlée (talk) 13:25, 13 October 2021 (UTC)

@Perryprog: or any talk page watcher-- could you sort this, please? Please check my external link removal on Attack Surface to see if it really was an inappropriate WP:EL and to see if there is WP:REFSPAM on the page? I think a WP:third opinion is in order, and my eye is doing funny things anyway, and I might not circle back to this in a reasonable amount of time. Thanks. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 08:37, 14 October 2021 (UTC)

Isambard Kingdom Brûlée, the issue here is mainly that it appears you are—almost solely—adding references, not with the purpose of verifying article content, but with the purpose of search engine optimization or promotion. Looking at the RiskIQ citations, they do look fairly suspect (they were all added here), and I think I'm going to go ahead and remove them. It's sometimes okay to have references similar to that, but that's more in cases like Cloudflare's reporting on something like the Facebook outage. That also leaves me with a quick question—Isambard Kingdom Brûlée, would you mind noting what the nature of your relationship is with Scarlet? Perryprog (talk) 11:28, 14 October 2021 (UTC)

(Also, the tool I normally use to research potential link spam is having some issues at the moment, so I'm going to have to wait until that's up until I see if it's worth removing the RiskIQ citations.) Perryprog (talk) 11:33, 14 October 2021 (UTC)

I've cleaned things up a little—it does seem like the RiskIQ citations were added in a pretty fishy looking manner, and they haven't been in use much as references on other articles. Perryprog (talk) 12:52, 14 October 2021 (UTC)

Pournelle

So what's the quote you alluded to at AE? Hard to resist juicy geek-bait like that. >;-)  — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼  15:04, 18 October 2021 (UTC)

Actually pretty droll. Incredibly long back story from King David's Spaceship. Colonel McKinney was on a planet called Makassar to get information from a First Empire library that had become the center of the local religion. (long discussion paraphrased) They would try persuasion and to talk there past the local religious leaders to get them in to see the Holy Relics, and if that didn't work out, he had a battalion of pikemen that could get them in to see the Holy Relics. So, of course, the analogy was that we could try reason as a first course of action and if that were unavailing, block the recalcitrant. I must have been feeling exasperated to trot that out. Best, --Deepfriedokra (talk) 16:39, 18 October 2021 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of User:Jonathanvarunbenjamin

A tag has been placed on User:Jonathanvarunbenjamin requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section U5 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page appears to consist of writings, information, discussions, and/or activities not closely related to Wikipedia's goals. Please note that Wikipedia is not a free web hosting service. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, such pages may be deleted at any time.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, and you wish to retrieve the deleted material for future reference or improvement, then please contact the deleting administrator, or if you have already done so, you can place a request here. — Friedlemon⭐ ^💬 15:44, 19 October 2021 (UTC)

Wow, a userfied page from 2007. And of course not U5able even by today's standards. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 16:52, 19 October 2021 (UTC)

We could try the web-host thingie..nowhere's written which size the hosting must have...  :). Lectonar (talk) 13:41, 20 October 2021 (UTC)

FFS part deux

That this needed to be removed today, again. Wikipedia is 1000 monkeys at 1000 typewriters plus another 1000 monkeys just pressing backspace. Levivich 02:45, 21 October 2021 (UTC)

@Levivich: 🤦‍♂️ And all of them cranking on methamphetamine. What is up with SupremeDeliciousness? --Deepfriedokra (talk) 09:26, 21 October 2021 (UTC)

de-mobilized mobile editors

@Levivich: So what can be done for/to users who were editing via app and got blocked (at least in part) for not responding to messages they might never have seen? --Deepfriedokra (talk) 09:58, 21 October 2021 (UTC)

Give them the comfy chair! I've suggested Wikipedia talk:Mobile communication bugs#Global consensus for standard admin protocol, but that only gets up to the editor being blocked, not what to do afterwards. If the block message has sufficient instructions, presumably that would inform the editor that a talk page exists, at which point they could engage in communication, which could resolve whatever the underlying issue is with their editing. I'm not sure but I'm guessing most of the time this doesn't happen and we just lose an editor. My line used to be, "vote for trustees who will fund the budget properly to ensure this bug feature is fixed," but we just had that vote, so I guess we'll have to wait and see if there are any substantive changes to the apps in the next year or so? The thing is, talk pages are not linked in the mobile app and are hidden for mobile IP editors using the default Minerva skin (so that's most readers and I'm not sure what percentage of editors, maybe a third or something like that) by specific design of WMF devs, who thought/think it's better this way (because talk pages will confuse readers, they say). So, all routes to changing this goes through the WMF devs. I'll note, though, that the chief of product just left; I'm not sure if they'll be replaced by the new CEO (who I guess starts in January) or whomever the interim CEO is now, but a change in leadership at the product team might, hopefully, lead to improvements in the product. Hopefully. Levivich 15:26, 21 October 2021 (UTC)

@Levivich: Too true. Case in point- at UTRS, never responded to a talk page post, no idea why they were blocked. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 16:54, 21 October 2021 (UTC)

Ted Stamm (again, sorry)

Should I request that we semi-protect Ted Stamm? All of a sudden, there's an IP User:2001:984:5d7f:1:ac99:57a1:7cc9:d497 appeared out of nowhere (actually, Rotterdam) who makes the exact edits that a blocked user wanted to make. What are the odds? Vexations (talk) 18:18, 22 October 2021 (UTC)

Protected Already @Vexations. MoonlightVector^{Talk page} 19:01, 22 October 2021 (UTC)

Actually, cough, cough. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 19:02, 22 October 2021 (UTC)

Shinnosuke15

Shinnosuke15 has made undiscussed page moves for "List of programs broadcast by" articles, changing the American spelling of "program" to the British spelling of "programme" under the mistaken impression that they "fixed" the spelling. For the record, these articles pertain to American TV channels, and thus used American spelling per WP:TITLEVAR; however, I am presuming WP:CIR issues rather than any sort of malice. I am asking you as an administrator to reverse these page moves. The Grand Delusion^{(Send a message)} 15:04, 23 October 2021 (UTC)

@The Grand Delusion: Did you discussed with them? Did they move them back? --Deepfriedokra (talk) 16:19, 23 October 2021 (UTC)

They moved them back. The Grand Delusion^{(Send a message)} 01:15, 24 October 2021 (UTC)

@The Grand Delusion: have you explained to them about WP:ENGVAR? --Deepfriedokra (talk) 02:03, 26 October 2021 (UTC)

@The Grand Delusion:I did and Shinnosuke15 responded affirmatively. Usually it is best to politely communicate exactly what the trouble is. Directly, on the user's talk page. Before contacting an admin. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 08:52, 26 October 2021 (UTC)

Unprotecting Mojang Studios

Hi! You protected Mojang Studios earlier this year after some vandalism, and set the expiry to indefinite. I don't think the page needs protection anymore, and I'm here asking if you'd be okay with removing the protection. Thank you! SWinxy (talk) 20:43, 24 October 2021 (UTC)

@SWinxy: Ahoy there, could you clarify? I see Deepfriedokra has already removed prot, but it was protected only last month by Acroterion for 1 year. It was not indef. Either way, I have it watchlisted, so will reprot if necessary. Just curious if you might have actually meant a different page? -- ferret (talk) 02:12, 26 October 2021 (UTC)

@Ferret: Oh, shit! Thought I was undoing my protection/ Putting it back. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 02:13, 26 October 2021 (UTC)

I don't think it's a huge deal! But since SWinxy thought it was indef, I'm wondering if they meant a different page. -- ferret (talk) 02:14, 26 October 2021 (UTC)

Pending was indefinite. The SP I applied had already expired. Had I seen the reapplication of SP, I'd have declined or deferred. Kinda makes an argument for keeping the pending --Deepfriedokra (talk) 02:17, 26 October 2021 (UTC)

Ugh, I hate that pending is a completely separate log. -- ferret (talk) 02:20, 26 October 2021 (UTC)

Yes. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 02:21, 26 October 2021 (UTC)

I went based off of who Twinkle said applied the current protection level, and for some reason it was you(?). And that pending can go on top of semi is what got me, and why I was so confused seeing a semi-lock when the page history clearly showed it was pending-protected. Thanks @Ferret for pointing out that @Deepfriedokra didn't semi-protect it. SWinxy (talk) 03:00, 26 October 2021 (UTC)

@SWinxy: That's one of the nice things about the PP interface. The PC can take over when the SP expires. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 08:41, 26 October 2021 (UTC)

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My Unblock Review

Hey remember me? I asked for an extension of my probation period after I was unblocked and you gave me considerations provided I fufill conditions. I failed them at first but now I am proud to say that I fufilled all the requests after a probation extension was given me and I did it for 2 years now, I think I now fully passed the test and although I had complaints I refuted them and proved I didn't break any rule. Can I have all my Wikipedia rights restored? Thank You Deepfriedokra. :D

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Rene_Bascos_Sarabia_Jr.#unblock_discussion

--Rene Bascos Sarabia Jr. (talk)

@Bishonen: Thoughts? --Deepfriedokra (talk) 07:52, 9 November 2021 (UTC)

I have to be fully honest though, I had complaints since May 2020 but I refuted them or addressed them and as far as I can tell I have have zero complaints since the the months of 2021. Rene Bascos Sarabia Jr. (talk) 08:07, 9 November 2021 (UTC)

Well to be specific I had zero complaints from the months of May to now this year. I have genuinely turned a new leaf and stopped my previous violating ways and I struggled at first but now no one's complaining for almost half a year now, even full members still have complaints on their talk pages. I refuted or addressed the complaints in the previous year and then from May 2021 onwards, zero complaints.

--Rene Bascos Sarabia Jr. (talk)

Norestrictions beyond waht is expected of all users. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 13:51, 9 November 2021 (UTC)

It took me a little time to go through the situation, but I'm not altogether happy, Fritter. I'm replying on Rene's page. Bishonen | tålk 14:39, 9 November 2021 (UTC).

BLP Issue

Dear Deepfriedokra,

I hope this finds you well. I have a Negative Content BLP issue on an article that you have edited on. Due to the sensitive nature of the content, I dont feel comfortable sharing all the details here. Would you be able to talk off-wiki? — Preceding unsigned comment added by T.bahamut (talk • contribs) 13:25, 16 November 2021 (UTC)

@T.bahamut: If you want a revision deletion, follow this link. Otherwise, the article name would be nice. I'm not around much anymore, so posting to WP:BLP might be faster. Generally, I do not discuss Wikipedia off-Wikipedia. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 14:12, 16 November 2021 (UTC)

@T.bahamut: Hello? --Deepfriedokra (talk) 18:17, 16 November 2021 (UTC)

@Deepfriedokra: Hi, sorry for the delay. This is about this article: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tobias_Madison#Domestic_violence which is a BLP of myself. The Oversight Committee suggested that I talk to an editor directly. The information in the article & sources is incorrect. A year after the initial court case the Criminal Court of New York dismissed the Criminal Case, reduced it to a non-criminal violation and sealed the record from the public. I have the documents to prove all that, but obviously dont want to publish them online, hence my off-wiki question.

Also I know that the editor Joojay has a COI, but i cant prove that.

I read your opinions on negative BLP and thought you would be a good person to ask for advice on how to proceed. Ideally I would like to remove the entire paragraph.

@T.bahamut: I'm sorry I could not reply sooner. I'm not around much any more. There is information that might prove useful at Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons/Help. The first step would be to discuss your concerns on the article talk page. The next would be The BLP notice board. Ultimately, you best option may be to contact the Wikimedia Foundation which owns Wikipedia. info-en-q@wikimedia.org is the Foundation email that handles problems like this. Best --Deepfriedokra (talk) 17:26, 18 November 2021 (UTC)

@Deepfriedokra: Thank you so much. So I will start on the talk page. Is it ok to mention, that I am the suject of the article and that the information in the article is incorrect? The criminal charges were dismissed and the case was sealed. I have uploaded a redacted version of the document here: XX

Is it ok to share that and use as a argument? It is my understanding, that ultimately I cannot edit the article myself, so an editor would need to make the changes?

That would be better sent, I think, to the Foundation. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 17:11, 19 November 2021 (UTC)

I have no connection to @T.bahamut: or the article Tobias Madison, and the allegations here is offensive and inappropriate. Joojay (talk) 03:02, 29 December 2021 (UTC)

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The Signpost: 28 December 2021

• From the editor: Here is the news

• News and notes: Jimbo's NFT, new arbs, fixing RfA, and financial statements

• Serendipity: Born three months before her brother?

• In the media: The past is not even past

• Recent research: STEM articles judged unsuitable for undergraduates below the first paragraph

• Arbitration report: A new crew for '22

• By the numbers: Four billion words and a few numbers

• Deletion report: We laughed, we cried, we closed as "no consensus"

• Gallery: Wikicommons presents: 2021

• Traffic report: Spider-Man, football and the departed

• Crossword: Another Wiki crossword for one and all

• Humour: Buying Wikipedia

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Merchandise giveaway nomination

A token of thanks Hi Deepfriedokra! I've nominated you (along with all other active admins) to receive a solstice season gift from the WMF. Talk page stalkers are invited to comment at the nomination. Enjoy! Cheers, {{u|Sdkb}} talk ~~~~~

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