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Daily Mail reference at Ross, Tasmania
Hi. Please do not use the Daily Mail as you did at Ross, Tasmania. It is not a reliable source. See WP:DAILYMAIL. Feel free re-add the content if you can source it to a reliable source. Kind regards, Robby.is.on (talk) 22:05, 18 April 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks I know that, but it was just for some extra detail about an uncontroversial topic (a bakery in rural Australia), as supportive information for the article which is otherwise well documented, so in this case IMHO it didn't seem to be a big deal. Certainly take it out if you wish. Deathlibrarian (talk) 02:37, 19 April 2022 (UTC)
- I think we should avoid it like the plague, even for "uncontroversial" topics. WP:DAILYMAIL is pretty clear: the Daily Mail is "generally unreliable, and its use as a reference is generally prohibited", it "should not be used for determining notability, nor should it be used as a source in articles". Happy editing, Robby.is.on (talk) 09:48, 19 April 2022 (UTC)
- Yes, as I said, I'm aware of the rule on Daily Mail, as you can see I've been editing on wikipedia for a little while now, but in this case it was for a particularly minor/mundane bit of information about how much the room that the bakery rents out cost per night, so in all practical sense, there was no harm done in including the reference. IN any case, its removed now, so lets leave it at that - all good. Thanks, and happy editing to you too. Deathlibrarian (talk) 09:56, 19 April 2022 (UTC)
- What I was trying to get across is that the quoted bits are so sweeping that they don't allow for this kind of exception. Using the Daily Mail to include minor details is also a WP:WEIGHT issue ("Neutrality requires that mainspace articles and pages fairly represent all significant viewpoints that have been published by reliable sources"). Robby.is.on (talk) 10:07, 19 April 2022 (UTC)
- Robby.is.on I'm not sure why you are so concerned about this. I only referenced it for the inclusion of some minor uncontroversial detail, and that detail and the Daily mail reference has now been removed. I think we can both now leave it, and move on now, thanks for the discussion. Deathlibrarian (talk) 10:40, 19 April 2022 (UTC)
- I'm baffled by the misconceptions about WP:DAILYMAIL that seem to exist and I'm concerned with dispelling them. That is all. Robby.is.on (talk) 10:51, 19 April 2022 (UTC)
- Robby.is.on I'm not sure why you are so concerned about this. I only referenced it for the inclusion of some minor uncontroversial detail, and that detail and the Daily mail reference has now been removed. I think we can both now leave it, and move on now, thanks for the discussion. Deathlibrarian (talk) 10:40, 19 April 2022 (UTC)
- What I was trying to get across is that the quoted bits are so sweeping that they don't allow for this kind of exception. Using the Daily Mail to include minor details is also a WP:WEIGHT issue ("Neutrality requires that mainspace articles and pages fairly represent all significant viewpoints that have been published by reliable sources"). Robby.is.on (talk) 10:07, 19 April 2022 (UTC)
- Yes, as I said, I'm aware of the rule on Daily Mail, as you can see I've been editing on wikipedia for a little while now, but in this case it was for a particularly minor/mundane bit of information about how much the room that the bakery rents out cost per night, so in all practical sense, there was no harm done in including the reference. IN any case, its removed now, so lets leave it at that - all good. Thanks, and happy editing to you too. Deathlibrarian (talk) 09:56, 19 April 2022 (UTC)
- I think we should avoid it like the plague, even for "uncontroversial" topics. WP:DAILYMAIL is pretty clear: the Daily Mail is "generally unreliable, and its use as a reference is generally prohibited", it "should not be used for determining notability, nor should it be used as a source in articles". Happy editing, Robby.is.on (talk) 09:48, 19 April 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks I know that, but it was just for some extra detail about an uncontroversial topic (a bakery in rural Australia), as supportive information for the article which is otherwise well documented, so in this case IMHO it didn't seem to be a big deal. Certainly take it out if you wish. Deathlibrarian (talk) 02:37, 19 April 2022 (UTC)
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Re. your edit today, you added "…criticised the laws as racist…" - but there’s no continuity there? The other sentence in the paragraph talks about her assuming that the NT’s AG was a white man when that person was in fact an indigenous woman, and makes no mention of any laws. All the best. Boscaswell talk 09:23, 20 October 2022 (UTC)
- Oh thanks for picking that up, yes I've now changed the text so it reads better - Thorpe's comments were critical of the laws that were being introduced (and thus critical of the AG for introducing them) - Cheers. Deathlibrarian (talk) 11:29, 20 October 2022 (UTC)
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- Sure, no problem at all. Are you Zia McCabe? If you point out the incorrect information, I can change it for you. I just may have to get published references for it, but I can hunt those down for you if need be. We'll get it sorted! Deathlibrarian (talk) 12:09, 23 February 2023 (UTC)
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