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edit- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by Theleekycauldron (talk) 17:22, 17 May 2023 (UTC)
- ... that when journalist and trade unionist Nisn Pups was released from jail, the Communist Party of Lithuania instructed him to change his name? Source: Evrei i evreĭskiĭ narod: Jews and the Jewish people. Collected materials from the Soviet daily and periodical press. Sbornik materialov iz sovetskoĭ ezhednevnoĭ ĭ [sic periodicheskoĭ pechati, Vol. 87-88]. Contemporary Jewish Library, 1978. p. 30
Created by Soman (talk). Self-nominated at 20:51, 18 April 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Nisn Pups; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.
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Overall: @Soman: Good article. Onegreatjoke (talk) 17:36, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
Object- Suffers from notability issues. Sources are weak. Lokys dar Vienas (talk) 20:00, 2 May 2023 (UTC)- Withdrawn. Lokys dar Vienas (talk) 19:42, 3 May 2023 (UTC)
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Arrest, parliamentary elections and exile
editSo the ref for the sentence "Pups was arrested shortly after becoming a member of the Communist Party" says the following: "אין אוגוסט 1921 טרעט ער אַרײַן אין דער ליטווישע קאָמוניסטישע פּאַרטיי. אינגיכן ווערט ער ארעסטירט. נאָכן ארויסגיין אף דער פרײַ בײַט ער , לויט דער רעקאָמענדאַציע פון דער פארטיי־אָרגאניזאציע , זײַן נאָמען אף מייער זיוו און קליבט זיך אריבער קײַן דײַטשלאנד.". Now it does not say precisely under what accusation he was arrested, where he was detained nor the name of the arresting police officer. But it is evident from context that he was arrested in Lithuania, in the climate of repression against the Communist Party (which was an underground organization). There is no reason whatsover to link this factoid to the factoid at the page on Pups at https://bessmertnybarak.ru/books/person/1802222/ . The Bessmertny Barak page only states that there is a file on Pups in the KGB Moscow archives. We can understand from context that the file would have emerged after his arrival in Moscow in 1923 (most likely linked to Great Purge 1937-1938).
Now to complicate things further, Pups was a candidate in the 1922 Lithuanian parliamentary election, holding the third slot on list nr. 1 in the second constituency. But I can't find a WP:RS to add this factoid in article. This gives little indication of exact moment that Pups was arrested, apart from that it would have been after August 1921 and before going into exile in Germany (which itself would have predated moving to Moscow in 1923). He could have been a candidate whilst in detention, this was a common feature of the communist movement at the time to present jailed candidates. But it is much less likely that he would have been fielded as candidate after having gone into exile. -- Soman (talk) 18:12, 3 May 2023 (UTC)
- I have already self-removed the tag. And I am discontinue work on this article, satisfying my worry about notability. Lokys dar Vienas (talk) 19:45, 3 May 2023 (UTC)
small Lithuanian town of Nevarėnai
editIn TDYK you wrote: The ref calls it "קליין ליטוויש שטעטעלע" ('small Lithuanian town'), but Shtetl is already dimunitive so klayn shtetl would be a small small town so I used the translation 'village'. So today it has formal classification as 'town' rather than 'village', but not sure that applied in 1892 (when it was a volost).
Today its population is ~552, so it is formally a miestelis (translated in wikipedia as town) in Lithuania today . In 1886 it was 444[1] Still, shtetl, even shtetele, was still an urban settlement because its intention was not agricultural. Maybe it makes sense to word it as "small Lithuanian shtetl of Nevarėnai" to avoid nitpicking. Lokys dar Vienas (talk)
- I'm perfectly fine with 'small Lithuanian town' for the article. --Soman (talk) 22:00, 3 May 2023 (UTC)
- So I am taking it off my watchlist. If you want any help from me, just ping. I have my own share of useless articles to write :-) Lokys dar Vienas (talk) 00:54, 4 May 2023 (UTC)
Vilner Tog?
edit[1] indicates he was a contributor to Vilner Tog, but not entirely clear during which period (1920s?). --Soman (talk) 14:21, 21 May 2023 (UTC)
References
- ^ גאלדענע קייט, Issues 138-139. Histadrut ha-kelalit Shel ha-ʻovdim ha-ʻivrim be-erets Yisrael., 1994. p. 35