Talk:List of best-selling Nintendo Switch video games/Archive 1

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Future entry bit: http://www.japanesenintendo.com/post/170494745694 has Puyo Puyo Tetris at switch being 'almost' at a million sold. Not sure how to proceed with it, but thought I'd place it here for later use 130.18.104.109 (talk) 18:55, 4 February 2018 (UTC)

• It needs a better source to be added. ~ Dissident93 ^(talk) 23:48, 4 February 2018 (UTC)

Reliable sources?

Really, Topesko is being used as a reliable source? What about the fact that no where in the NintendoToday article for the Mario+Rabbids reference is ever even mentioned to have reached 1 million sales units. The last 2 games are either unreliable sources, and questionable if they even reached the amounts listed... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2602:304:cfd3:2ee0:8853:1623:690e:ef4e (talk • contribs)

I'm not familiar with the website, but no, it doesn't really look like a reliable source. I'm pretty certain its incorrect too, I thought I just read today that Bomberman just hit the 1 million mark, and that was after the PS4 release, meaning that it wouldn't be ellgible for this list if some of the figures are from other platforms. Sergecross73 msg me 18:29, 2 August 2018 (UTC)

Bomberman was removed from this list before because it was 1 million across all platforms, not just the Switch. ~ Dissident93 ^(talk) 18:40, 2 August 2018 (UTC)

Yeah, I remembered that too. Someone slipped it back in at some point and we didn't notice, I guess? It was there back in June 2018 too. Sergecross73 msg me 18:49, 2 August 2018 (UTC)

Wait, Bomberman was only released on other platforms this June, and that source predated June by a good margin. Why was it removed?--32.215.247.194 (talk) 11:11, 3 August 2018 (UTC)

Because it wasn't a reliable source. It's just a random, anonymous blog on the internet. I don't recall there being any official sales figures on the Switch version hitting a million alone. They don't cite their source on where they are coming up with this either. It can be re-added if you can find a reliable source and/or figures from Konami confirming the Switch version's sales. Sergecross73 msg me 12:18, 3 August 2018 (UTC)

Nintendo Life, citing the original Japanese tweet, states "The one million sales figure includes sales across all versions, although with the PS4 and Xbox One versions only releasing in June this year, it's pretty safe to say that the Switch is responsible for the majority of that number." So it's close to having a million (by logical deduction), but it's not there yet. ~ Dissident93 ^(talk) 17:25, 3 August 2018 (UTC)

Labo and Pokken

First, thoughts on adding Nintendo Labo to the list? It's shipped/sold 1.39 million copies between the two kits, as of July 31. That is a combined figure, but combining the sales of multiple versions is how the Pokemon titles have been counted, so there is precedent.

Second, on the Pokken Tournament figures, what is listed is shipments/sales for North America and Europe only, since Nintendo didn't publish the game inside Japan. What is the thought on adding the most recently available Japanese sales total from Media Create to the total? I'm of the opinion that simple math is not original research, but wanted thoughts before I considered doing so. Resolute 21:53, 28 August 2018 (UTC)

• Labo should be added without any controversy, although it would be preferred if sales figures of the individual kit were mentioned in the field for it. And while Pokken's sales numbers would combined from sources of two different time frames (NA/EU sales being outdated as of today), I think we already do this with older games in other similar lists, so it shouldn't be an issue here either. ~ Dissident93 ^(talk) 22:53, 28 August 2018 (UTC)

Why with Labo though? It’s combinjng 2 separate things, neither of which are really games at all. I’m leaning more towards exclusion honestly. Sergecross73 msg me 00:40, 29 August 2018 (UTC)

I mean, there is a software/video game component to them and we already include them in the list of Switch games. If they should be excluded here, then they should also be removed from there as well. ~ Dissident93 ^(talk) 01:00, 29 August 2018 (UTC)

That is something we should probably come to a consensus on at some point, but that aside, how do we justify the combination of all 3 of the different Labo sets into one figure? Wouldn't that be like...combining the sales figures of Wii Sports with Wii Sports Resort or something? Sergecross73 msg me 12:15, 29 August 2018 (UTC)

Two, actually. The Vehicle kit has not yet released. And from my POV, it would be more like combining the sales of Pokemon Sun and Pokemon Moon. Moreover, if reliable sources combine, then so should we. Resolute 14:08, 29 August 2018 (UTC)

Right, I just meant, moving forward, we'd be combining 3+ variants of Labo. Regardless, if it were up to me and I were the only one writing this article, I'd exclude it, but don't let me be the only detractor here - if you both support inclusion and there's no one else against it, feel free to include. I don't feel all that strongly about it, I just think it's could get weird or be an issue of contention down the line is all. Sergecross73 msg me 14:15, 29 August 2018 (UTC)

Personally, I don't think that new Labo sets are really any different than expansions/DLC for a base game. But I agree that it could be an issue as more are released into the future. ~ Dissident93 ^(talk) 16:37, 29 August 2018 (UTC)

Yup, I get your concern though, which is why I brought it up first before adding. Resolute 19:09, 29 August 2018 (UTC)

Add Warframe to the list

Warframe has sold 1 million copies on the nintendo switch alone, here's a source[1]. 344917661X (talk) 03:38, 8 December 2018 (UTC)

No, it didn’t “sell” 1 million, it was “downloaded” 1 million times. It’s free to play. Like Fortnite, which certain crosses 1 million long ago, it’s inellegible for this list. Sergecross73 msg me 04:53, 8 December 2018 (UTC)

Understandable, thanks for telling me. 344917661X (talk) 05:08, 8 December 2018 (UTC)

SSBU sales

https://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2018-12-18-super-smash-bros-ultimate-us-sales-reach-3-million

3 Million in the US

and 1.2 in japan

4.2 Million so far — Preceding unsigned comment added by 102.134.154.48 (talk) 13:57, 18 December 2018 (UTC)

more SSBU sales

currently at 5 million: https://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/333375/Smash_Bros_Ultimate_worldwide_sales_topped_5M_in_first_week.php — Preceding unsigned comment added by 102.134.154.48 (talk) 11:07, 28 December 2018 (UTC)

Done Stefvanschie (talk) 11:28, 28 December 2018 (UTC)

Labo (again)

I've added the Toy-Con 01: Variety Kit sales to the current Labo row in the notes column, but I do wonder if we shouldn't be breaking these out into separate rows now that we know Nintendo are reporting them as individual units. ATMarsden^Talk 07:46, 31 January 2019 (UTC)

If Nintendo is reporting each kit's figures separately now, then I support this. ~ Dissident93 ^(talk) 19:11, 31 January 2019 (UTC)

Regional publishers footnotes

I would propose that we simply move the international publishers to the main body of the table. The footnote hunting seems a bit excessive for such a small piece of information, and both List of best-selling Wii video games and List of best-selling Wii U video games list international publishers separately in the table.

On a related note, there is Acquire's help with Octopath. I'd be inclined to move that to the main body, but as it's only "in collaboration with", I'm not sure how to fit that into the space constraints, so am happy to leave that as a footnote.

Pokkén Tournament DX	1.16 million		September 22, 2017	Fighting	Bandai Namco Studios	JP: The Pokémon Company WW: Nintendo
Octopath Traveler	1.08 million		July 13, 2018	Role-playing	Square Enix Acquire (collaborator)	JP: Square Enix WW: Nintendo

ATMarsden^Talk 03:45, 3 February 2019 (UTC)

Some related thoughts, based on other games' publication:

• Mario + Rabbids is published by Nintendo in JP/KOR
• The Pokémon Company is listed as a publisher for Let's Go on the respective article. Is this regional, or is it co-published?

ATMarsden^Talk 04:00, 3 February 2019 (UTC)

I've added this information to the table, but am not sure if it should stay. It doesn't look as clean as I thought it would, (though I was also implicitly imagining getting rid of the breakdown column RE: discussion in section above.) Please feel free to revert or rework. ATMarsden^Talk 04:27, 3 February 2019 (UTC)

"U.S." sales vs. "overseas" sales

Should we consolidate the "in United States" sales into "overseas" sales? The earnings release details overseas sales as opposed to strictly U.S. sales, and the Wii U best-sellers article only mentions overseas sales. — snoɯʎuoɥʇuɐ 09:06, 31 January 2019 (UTC)

Personally, I don’t think we need a breakdown at all. Total sales is the only thing that really matters. I support stripping away as much as there is consensus for. Sergecross73 msg me 14:01, 31 January 2019 (UTC)

A breakdown only exists for less than half of these entries. If they all did, then I would support keeping them. But as they all aren't, I also think that column should be removed. The only real number that matters to the scope here are the total numbers. ~ Dissident93 ^(talk) 19:10, 31 January 2019 (UTC)

+1 for getting rid of the sales breakdown column. If we had consistent sources for these numbers (e.g., if NoA, NoE, and NCL ALL published regional numbers), then I would support keeping them, but as the timings for the Japan and US sales are usually completely off-balance, the numbers seem more like they're misrepresenting than adding context. Notable is that List of best-selling Wii video games doesn't list them at all, and the Wii U list only lists them for a very few titles. ATMarsden^Talk 03:35, 3 February 2019 (UTC)

I'm in favour of removing the sales breakdown here and on Wii U's sales page. These games will keep selling and after a year, the data for titles won't have accurate numbers as Nintendo only updates quarterly and for the financial year so we won't get LTD in a region (unless we add them all together, but using multiple sources to add numbers is not right). UnbreakableMass (talk) 03:09, 4 February 2019 (UTC)

I have added a link back to this section to the Wii U sales Talk page. I know there's probably no-one watching that page, but I thought it was best to do so as a courtesy. ATMarsden^Talk 06:52, 4 February 2019 (UTC)

I have gone ahead and made the change, both here and on List of best-selling Wii U video games, as consensus seemed to be building and no-one had given objection yet. If tides change, then we can revert. ATMarsden^Talk 07:09, 4 February 2019 (UTC)

I have added a link back to this discussion to Talk:List of best-selling Nintendo 3DS video games#Sales Breakdown to consider removing the same column on the 3DS list. I'm not sure why this one escaped me when the original conversation was had on this topic for Switch and Wii U. ATMarsden^Talk 11:03, 25 April 2019 (UTC)

Octopath Traveler

The new earnings release has knocked OT's sales down from 1.5M to 1.17M.

Now, the 1.17M comes from Nintendo, but the 1.5M came via a news article:

• "Octopath Traveler: Champions of the Continent announced for smartphones". Gematsu. 2019-03-08. Retrieved 2019-03-08.

Which discussed the new game and came via Square Enix.

I think Nintendo's numbers must only cover sales in the territories that they publish for, but I'm not sure enough to actually revert this with confidence. I don't believe the 1.5M number was just a load of hot air. ATMarsden^Talk 10:51, 25 April 2019 (UTC)

Nintendo's numbers exclude Japan as they did not publish there (as per their documents), 1.5 million was world wide sales.UnbreakableMass (talk) 13:25, 25 April 2019 (UTC)

• Apparently Nintendo doesn't report digital sales or something in their IR reports, so I'd take the Gematsu source with numbers straight from Square Enix. ~ Dissident93 ^(talk) 16:07, 25 April 2019 (UTC)
• You are correct. Nintendo only reports sales for territories where it publishes the title. So 1.17 million is the shipments for Octopath Traveler outside Japan. 1.5 million is the global figure and should be retained. Pokken Tournament is in a similar boat. The figure Nintendo offered (and is used in this article) excludes Japan, since The Pokemon Company itself published it there. Resolute 16:55, 25 April 2019 (UTC)

Monster Hunter Generations Ultimate Sales

Not really good at editing, so leaving a few links on this topic news wise to see if they might be

https://gonintendo.com/stories/328298-monster-hunter-generations-ultimate-moves-1-2-million-on-switch https://nintendosoup.com/monster-hunter-generations-ultimate-has-surpassed-1-2-million-copies-worldwide/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 32.215.247.194 (talk) 02:38, 29 June 2019 (UTC)

That’s not a reliable source. You’ll need a better one. Sergecross73 msg me 03:06, 29 June 2019 (UTC)

Minecraft sales figures ?

Hi, I found a website which is saying that the Nintendo Switch Version of Minecraft has been sold to 1,89 million of copies.

The problem is, I don't know if this source is like 100% reliable. Because t I never found anything more about the sales figures of Minecraft (Switch version).

Maybe someone else found something about the sales figures ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Justtoaskthat765434567890 (talk • contribs) 20:44, 23 August 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for trying, but as you feared, VGChartz is not a reliable source. We can’t use it here. Sergecross73 msg me 22:14, 23 August 2019 (UTC)

VGChartz is a unreliable source, but can we combine figures from two solid sources? The latest Famitsu sales shows that Minecraft have sold over 950k in Japan. A report from Nintendo Europe has shown that Minecraft has sold over 500k units in Europe. (The other three third party games that passed 500k are Crash Bandicoot N.Sane Trilogy, Mario + Rabbids and Stardew Valley)

Combining both then Minecraft is confirmed to have sold over 1.45m units in Japan + Europe. Jpseek (talk) 12:27, 16 October 2019 (UTC)

That is allowed, but it should be noted somewhere that it does not include NA sales (which is a huge portion of worldwide game sales). ~ Dissident93 ^(talk) 19:33, 16 October 2019 (UTC)

Update Pokkén Tournament DX Sales

Pokkén Tournament DX's sales are VERY outdated, from early 2018, and need updating. Please find a reliable source that shows it's current sales. Thank you I am RedoStone (talk) 16:55, 1 December 2019 (UTC)

Editors are generally pretty on top of updating this chart. I’m guess that if the sales figures are old, it probably means no further sales figures have been released. Which is unfortunately rather common in the video game industry. Sergecross73 msg me 19:06, 1 December 2019 (UTC)

Generally, games below around 3 million total in the first year won't get an update beyond that first year (or the second if it was a late release, say March), because they're not going to sell >1M in a fiscal year again. Pokkén is doubly-unfortunate in that it only JUST made it onto the list in its first year, and that it was only published by Nintendo outside of Japan (TPC in Japan). We just don't have firm numbers other than that single earnings release for FY ending 3/2018, and we're almost certainly never going to get them again. We have no firm numbers for the Japanese sales (which I'd speculate would put this somewhere north of 1.5 million if we did).

This "no more updates" thing is probably also going to be the case for any of the Labo kits, Kirby Star Allies, Captain Toad, Xenoblade, Arms, Donkey Kong, Mario Tennis Aces, and 1-2-Switch. (Those last two have more slightly recent updates solely because they were on Nintendo's official top-10 best-sellers list until mid-2019.) ATMarsden^Talk 21:49, 3 December 2019 (UTC)

Pokemon SwSh sales

https://www.superdataresearch.com/worldwide-digital-games-market/

"Pokémon Sword and Shield cruises past Link’s Awakening to become the top-selling Nintendo title in 2019. Pokémon Sword and Shield sold 2.72M units in its first month, beating out other first-party exclusives like Luigi’s Mansion 3 and The Legend of Zelda: Link’s Awakening to lead the charge for Nintendo this holiday season."

This contradicts the 6mil figures, I'm guessing the 6mil figures given by the other websites are shipping amount and not true sales number. I recommend rectifying 6 mil to 2.72 mil and using this link instead of the faulty, puff articles. Penpaperpencil (Talk) 17:03, 26 December 2019 (UTC)

Why would we be trusting a third party estimate when we’ve got actually figures straight from the source? And why is the 6 million figure “faulty”? And conceptually there’s no way the 2.72 is the most accurate. The game is almost at 3 million in Japan alone. Regardless, we’ll likely get updates figures soon, with it being after the holidays and almost month-end and year-end too. Sergecross73 msg me 17:17, 26 December 2019 (UTC)

We generally use shipped numbers anyway, because that is what the companies generally report. Famitsu are reporting 2.7mn in Japan alone at this point, and their numbers tend to match up to within ±200k of Nintendo's official figures. (Famitsu doesn't count as a reliable source, but they're a good heuristic still). We'll be getting full numbers for Pokémon Sword and Shield's sales (15 November to 31 December 2019) on 30 January 2020, at the 9-month earnings release. That will also bring us official numbers for Luigi's Mansion, and more up-to-date numbers for Link's Awakening. If Nintendo or TPC put out a press release in the interim, we can take that. The 6 million comes from the Nintendo/TPC press release the week after launch, and this is a case where primary sources are considered pretty much the best we can get.

Actually, looking at the link you gave, that site is ONLY tracking digital sales? (quote: "monthly digital sales update".) 2.72 digitally in November worldwide seems VERY likely given that Pokémon's >6 million over Black Friday weekend would include a LOT of Christmas presents (physical). ATMarsden^Talk 18:30, 26 December 2019 (UTC)

I'm not sure if they changed this recently, but Nintendo's financial documents only used to report physical shipments/sales and omitted anything digital. ~ Dissident93 ^(talk) 21:22, 26 December 2019 (UTC)

I'd have to double check, but I'm pretty confident that since the beginning of the 3DS, all Nintendo sales numbers have included physical AND digital sales. But they don't count Virtual Console, WiiWare, DSiWare, or 3DS/Wii U eShop-only titles in overall platform sales numbers. (e.g., the 920.81 mn Wii software sales number doesn't include WiiWare and VC. They word it as something like "download versions of packaged/disc software"). You might be thinking of the fact that Nintendo don't report digital sales to outside trackers (Famitsu, NPD, Nielsen, GFK)... But some of those companies DO estimate Nintendo digital sales nonetheless. (This also applies to some other systems - Blizzard report digital console sales but not digital PC sales, for instance.) ATMarsden^Talk 22:56, 26 December 2019 (UTC)

Yeah, it changed in FY 2012 (ending March 2013):

https://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/pdf/2012/120426e.pdf - 2012-03-31 fiscal report:

3 The figures in actual sales units and number of new titles for Nintendo 3DS do not include the quantity of downloadable games in the Nintendo eShop.
4 The figures in actual sales units and number of new titles for Wii do not include the quantities of Virtual Console and the WiiWare titles[...]
9 Forecasted sales units [for FY ending 3/2013] of Nintendo 3DS software and Wii U software contained in Wii software include the quantity of the packaged software by means of digital distribution."

https://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/pdf/2013/130424e.pdf - 2013-03-31 fiscal report:

2 Software sales units and the number of new titles for Nintendo DS do not include those of Nintendo DSiWare.
3 Software sales units and the number of new titles for Nintendo 3DS are those of Nintendo 3DS card software (packaged and downloadable versio[ns).]
4 Software sales units and the number of new titles for Wii do not include those of Virtual Console and WiiWare.
5 Software sales units and the number of new titles for Wii U are those of Wii U disc software (packaged and downloadable versions)."

So numbers for 3DS and Wii U, since then, include download versions of packaged software, but not download-only titles like BoxBoy. This may have changed again for FY 2016 (ending 3/2017). The rubric is now just:

Software sales units include both packaged and downloadable versions of software.

which is ambiguous as to download-only titles. But that's beyond scope here anyway. ATMarsden^Talk 23:06, 26 December 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for the info. I had thought this was a much more recent change they did, like in 2016/2017. ~ Dissident93 ^(talk) 09:56, 27 December 2019 (UTC)

Octopath update

FYI, Nintendo social media posted that Octopath Traveller has hit 2 million per https://twitter.com/nintendoeurope/status/1240298394427568128?s=21 Nintendo wouldn’t report on PC sales, so it’s pretty safely a Switch figure, but I’m not opposed to waiting for other sources to cover it too, I’m sure they will. Sergecross73 msg me 15:59, 18 March 2020 (UTC)

There are a couple of sources that reported on this, but whether this is just for Switch or for both Switch and PC seems a bit conflicted. I agree that the Twitter account for Nintendo would logically not report for PC sales, but GameSpot reported that the game "has sold 2 million copies across Nintendo Switch and PC" (https://www.gamespot.com/articles/octopath-traveler-celebrates-2-million-sales-with-/1100-6474955/). Siliconera, Gematsu and Nintendo Life also reported on the 2 million figure, but without specifically stating which platforms are covered with these sales (https://www.siliconera.com/2-million-octopath-traveler-copies-have-been-sold-octopath-traveler-sales/; https://www.gematsu.com/2020/03/octopath-traveler-shipments-and-digital-sales-top-two-million; http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2020/03/octopath_traveler_has_sold_2_million_copies_game_is_50_percent_off_for_a_limited_time). Perhaps we should wait a bit to see if anything comes out that gives more clarity on this. Stefvanschie (talk) 10:58, 19 March 2020 (UTC)

Yup, you’re right. I thought more sources covering it would be clarity, but it’s actually made it more confusing... Sergecross73 msg me 14:23, 19 March 2020 (UTC)

"Date updated" - reword?

I'm glad we have this column now, but there is ongoing confusion and good-faith edits to change the dates in this column.

For clarity, as the article stands, we use this column for the final date tracked by the numbers we have, NOT the date of publication.

I feel like there might be a better wording than "Date updated", but I'm not really sure what that might be. "As of" is probably too vague, and possibly fails some accessibility requirements too. marsdeat^Talk 15:05, 6 May 2020 (UTC)

• Other similar lists use "as of". I don't see any issue with that. ~ Dissident93 ^(talk) 22:55, 6 May 2020 (UTC)

• Im fine either way. After maintaining articles like this for years, I’ve learned that thoughtless editors will get the dates wrong regardless, so we really just have to keep an eye on it. Sergecross73 msg me 23:58, 6 May 2020 (UTC)

New Minecraft sales

In japan the numbers were updated to selling 1.51 million so that would put it at 2.01 million sales. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 158.135.171.136 (talk) 02:10, 3 October 2020 (UTC)

if you need the proof here https://www.gematsu.com/2020/10/famitsu-sales-9-21-20-9-27-20 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 158.135.171.136 (talk) 02:13, 3 October 2020 (UTC)

I've updated the data along with the accompanying source. redsparta^talk 02:53, 5 October 2020 (UTC)

Mario 3D all stars sales

Well here are some numbers for Mario 3d all stars coming from America for September. https://www.resetera.com/threads/super-mario-3d-all-stars-sets-the-sales-record-for-a-3d-mario-game-in-the-us-market.307798/ Also here are the numbers from japan from famitsu yes i know it isnt the site it was one of the 50 billion pages i could find talking about the actual page. https://www.gematsu.com/2020/10/famitsu-sales-10-5-20-10-11-20 With that all put together 3D all-stars should be at 1.495 million. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 158.135.171.136 (talk) 05:40, 17 October 2020 (UTC)

Messageboards like Resetera are not usable sources on Wikipedia, as it fails WP:USERG. Gematsu is usable, but doesn’t verify your 1.495 number. We need better sourcing to add it. Sergecross73 msg me 13:03, 17 October 2020 (UTC)

Ok i was just going off the information that was leaked out though if can figure out the American launch number for Odyessy or galaxy just put a greater than sign for it as 3D all stars had a bigger launch month than either of those. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 158.135.171.136 (talk) 14:58, 17 October 2020 (UTC)

I get it, and as a fan, I find it interesting too. But as a Wikipedia editor, I’m telling you that sort of sourcing won’t work. Sergecross73 msg me 15:13, 17 October 2020 (UTC)

ok well lets not use those numbers lets use the launch numbers of galaxy as it was confirmed by NPD that 3D all stars was the 6th biggest physical launch from Nintendo which those games that are the 5 above are animal crossing NH, smash ultimate/ brawl, Pokémon stadium, and breath of the wild with having bigger dollar launches than 3D all stars so this means it did have a bigger one than odyssey and galaxy so you could find those numbers as they used to post numbers every months so you could find those and then add the Japanese and say it is greater this. But if that doesnt count i get it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 158.135.171.136 (talk) 17:23, 17 October 2020 (UTC)

Yeah, that’s going to be original research too. It’s okay, companies usually like to brag about big sales successes. I’m sure Nintendo will release a statement soon. Sergecross73 msg me 21:32, 17 October 2020 (UTC)

or we will just have to wait until November. Now i do wonder with these sales numbers do they add them to their respective games on the best selling games of all times if 3d all stars comes out to like 5-10 million? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 158.135.171.136 (talk) 00:19, 18 October 2020 (UTC)

Right now, because they’re just sold as a collection, we’d just add the collection. How it’s added to other articles may depend on what sales figure Nintendo releases. Sergecross73 msg me 16:33, 26 October 2020 (UTC)

Update digital numbers were put out for September and mario 3d all stars did 1.8 million but now taking the know physical japan sales it is at 2.145 million sales for 3D all stars

https://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2020-10-23-digital-console-spending-up-40-percent-in-september-thanks-to-wave-of-big-releases perfectly-nintendo.com/japan-taiwan-s-korea-famitsu-and-media-create-sales-for-week-42-2020-october-12-october-18/#:~:text=Famitsu%20(Week%2042)&text=The%20biggest%20release%20of%20the,with%2073%20918%20units%20sold. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 158.135.162.22 (talk) 04:02, 26 October 2020 (UTC)

Gamesindustry.biz is a usable, reliable source. Perfectly Nintendo is not. Sergecross73 msg me 16:33, 26 October 2020 (UTC)

I didn't mention Nintendo in this update so should we add these numbers? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 158.135.162.22 (talk) 01:24, 27 October 2020 (UTC)

New Switch million seller

https://twitter.com/MOMOTETSU_Reiwa/status/1337230813608308736 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 107.77.223.129 (talk) 14:21, 11 December 2020 (UTC)

Xenoblade Chronicles 2 sales numbers not from any official source.

The sales numbers for Xenoblade Chronicles 2 were previously listed as 1.92 million based on official numbers from 2020 CESA Games White Papers, but it was changed to 2 million based on an article that doesn't have any official source backing it up. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:4644:B0CF:0:BDF2:940C:582C:26AF (talk) 08:13, 14 December 2020 (UTC)

Does Among Us Really Count

Among Us should not be on here, as Note A states: "This figure does not include download-only titles." And Among Us is a download only title, so it should be removed — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1010:B144:BB48:D954:CB1A:A33:63B1 (talk) 06:14, 29 January 2021 (UTC)

"This figure does not include download-only titles" means the count of total copies of games sold for Switch (currently 456.49 mil) as given in Nintendo's quarterly earnings reports. It doesn't mean this list doesn't include download-only games, it means Nintendo's overall number of copies doesn't. TheHumanIntersect (talk) 06:23, 29 January 2021 (UTC)

• Any game that is sold (not free to play) is fair game as long as we have a reliable source verifying the figures. There's nothing keeping digital-only games off the list (other than rarely having sales figures for them.) Sergecross73 msg me 13:55, 29 January 2021 (UTC)

I agree if we have reliable coverage saying how well something sells it shouldn’t be discounted solely due to the nature that it was sold. Also I believe note A which says that Digital only games aren’t counted should be removed then.--65.92.160.124 (talk) 07:21, 30 January 2021 (UTC)

The note is tied to the second paragraph of the lead. Maybe you didn't click the little arrow next to it in the notes section to see where it is located on the page, but there is no reason to remove it. It still applies to the text it is appended to. redsparta^talk 08:15, 30 January 2021 (UTC)

Xenoblade Chronicles: Definitive Edition

Why isn't the number for Xenoblade Chronicles:Drfinitive Edition updated? It is be at 1.48 million units now, according to Nintendo's 3rd quarter financial results. BB1802 (talk) 16:12, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

The info was released less than 24 hours ago. It just appears no one has gotten around to it yet. Provide the source and I or someone else can add it for you. Sergecross73 msg me 02:49, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

Already done, thanks. BB1802 (talk) 04:09, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

2 poorly-sourced entries: XCDE, HW:AOC

I can't currently edit it as I've not got time to reorder the mess I'd make to the table: but the Xenoblade Chronicles 2 entiry is poorly-sourced. The citation trail leads back to an "according to my records" statement on ResetEra.

Additionally, the Hyrule Warriors Age of Calamity source is to a MyNintendoNews article that also sources back to a ResetEra thread. I believe the underlying source is correct (being a translation of KT's earnings reports), but a better source trail is needed still.

As mentioned in a previous section, XC:DE's numbers also haven't been updated for the 2021-02-01 earnings update. marsdeat^Talk 17:32, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

XC:DE numbers have been updated. In the document provided by Nintendo titled "3rd Quarter Results for Fiscal Year Ending March 2021 Financial Results Explanatory Material" on page 17 XC:DE is listed as having sold 1.48 million units. It has been officially updated. The source is Nintendo. BB1802 (talk) 20:06, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

XC:DE should also be updated in the article. BB1802 (talk) 20:08, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

Mentioning XCDE was a poor move on my part. I know Nintendo released numbers, I meant that the numbers hadn't been updated on this article at that point in time. Regardless, the HWAOC and XC2 problems I mentioned were separate from that. marsdeat^Talk 13:57, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

RESOLVED: Recovered the CESA reference for XC2 selling 1.92mn, as the 2.0mn number was based on a ResetEra thread. I re-based the HWAOC reference on Nintendo Life, as MNN is on the unreliable sources list. (Also did some general date format cleanup) marsdeat^Talk 03:30, 14 February 2021 (UTC)

Zelda sales

Re the Zelda sales figures Nintendo used in their earnings statement, have they got this wrong?? 500k units in Japan? Media-create had sales pinned at ~700k units in Japan at the end of 2017. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.64.228.99 (talk) 14:14, 29 March 2018 (UTC)

Who is Media-create? Nintendo's figures are official, any estimates some third party made are probably wrong. -- ferret (talk) 14:17, 29 March 2018 (UTC)

Ferret Media Create is like Japan's NPD Group only they give actual sales figures. FYI. Sergecross73 msg me 14:37, 29 March 2018 (UTC)

So who's at fault here? Either Nintendo gave slightly outdated figures, or Media Create is exaggerating. ~ Dissident93 ^(talk) 20:07, 29 March 2018 (UTC)

Are we sure that both sources represent the same timeframes? That's a common reason for these sorts of situations, in my experience... Sergecross73 msg me 20:09, 29 March 2018 (UTC)

Assuming Media Create was basing their figures around the end of 2017 as the user claims, then it should line up more with Nintendo's, whose most recent sales figures were as of December 31, 2017. That is, unless me or the user are misreading something. ~ Dissident93 ^(talk) 20:48, 29 March 2018 (UTC)

Ok, I just took a look at the sources, and while both omit the Wii U's sales, Nintendo reports that BOTW sold 510,000 copies in Japan as of Dec 31, 2017, while Media Create reports 771,050 during the same timeframe. However, it includes the "limited edition" (what is that anyway), which may be where the extra 200K is coming from. But I also see a number of other slight discrepancies with the other games as well, such as Nintendo reporting a higher number of Mario Odyssey (1,760,000) than Media Create (1,397,332), as well as with Splatoon 2 and Mario Kart 8 Deluxe. There seems to be a constant 200-300K difference between the two, for some reason. ~ Dissident93 ^(talk) 20:59, 29 March 2018 (UTC)

Coming in a month late, but the difference is explained by the fact that that column was discussing sales for FY2018 only (at that point, April 1, 2017-December 31, 2017). Switch's launch month (March 3-March 31) were reported for FY2017, so wasn't included. Both sources were correct for what they were measuring; Media Create was reporting lifetime retail (read: physical) sales in Japan. Resolute 14:32, 27 April 2018 (UTC)

Link's awakening updated sales are here https//theouterhaven.net/2020/11/nintendo-witch-gets-second-list-of-million-sellers/ who got it from nintendo Pokemon guy45 (talk) 18:07, 20 March 2021 (UTC)

HW: AOC updated in Koei Tecmo's IR report

HW: AOC shipped 3.7 million copies. koeitecmo.co.jp/ir/ BB1802 (talk) 12:08, 26 April 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 6 May 2021

Change that the switch has sold nearly 85 million units, and that it has outsold the GBA. 165.161.16.171 (talk) 15:00, 6 May 2021 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 15:08, 6 May 2021 (UTC)

Nintendo's IR report shows it at 84.59 million shipped units. BB1802 (talk) 15:53, 6 May 2021 (UTC)

Mario + Rabbis Kingdom battle

Currently the sales figures say 7.5 million in sales. This is incorrect and should be returned to previous numbers. Ubisoft said that 7.5 million people have played it. That is not sales since for example 5 people in my household have played it but only represents 1 sale.

https://gamingbolt.com/mario-rabbids-kingdom-battle-has-been-played-by-over-7-5-million-players

}} 75.167.127.58 (talk) 16:50, 13 June 2021 (UTC)

You are correct. Someone has since fixed it, but it's still good to have this documented for future reference. Sergecross73 msg me 16:53, 13 June 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 14 June 2021

In the table of games with their titles and approximate numbers of copies sold, change the number of copies sold of "Mario + Rabbids Kingdom Battle" from 2 million to 7.5 million. The game's director publicly announced this via twitter on June 13 2021. Link: https://twitter.com/DavideSoliani/status/1404142825562853378?s=20 Edit: I'm a new user and I didn't see there was already a thread about this. Greylegumes (talk) 18:40, 14 June 2021 (UTC)

Thief Simulator sold 1 million copies

On Twitter Forever Entertainment announced that Thief Simulator sold 1 million copies. Please someone add this to the list. BB1802 (talk) 09:04, 16 July 2021 (UTC)

We need someone to present the source. Additionally, I'm not familiar with this game, but if it's multiplatform, the source would have to make it clear that the 1 million explicitly is referring to Switch version sales, or it wouldn't go on. Sergecross73 msg me 14:13, 16 July 2021 (UTC)

The wording is a LITTLE ambiguous, but I THINK the intent is 1mn on Switch? https://twitter.com/ForeverEntert/status/1415931294438068224 marsdeat^Talk 19:49, 17 July 2021 (UTC)

Adding the japan sales for new pokemon snap

i know on nintendo's quarterly they dont sell the game in japan but i know how you can get it Famitsu because they come out with weekly totals from japan so that is how you can add it. So i think if you add that you put in like 200,000 - 300,000 as i cant remember the number off the top of my head.

I'm not following - Nintendo's quarterly reports cover global sales from all regions, Japan included. Sergecross73 msg me 18:46, 5 August 2021 (UTC)

New Pokémon Snap is an exception because it's solely published by The Pokémon Company in Japan, and by Nintendo outside of Japan. The same applies for Pokkén Tournament. Normally Pokémon games are published jointly worldwide by the two companies, but those two games are exceptions. TheHumanIntersect (talk) 19:31, 5 August 2021 (UTC)

Ah, I hadn't realized that. Yeah, Famitsu is considered reliable, so we could add that. Might want to agree on only adding it quarterly or something too though, or it'll become tedious updating it every time it sells another 2,000 copies ever week or whatever. Sergecross73 msg me 19:47, 5 August 2021 (UTC)

Ok sounds fine as the same thing happens to Minecraft for the switch.

Pokkén Tournament DX sales

I added the Media Create sales for PTDX, which was the source the media used to use for Japanese data before MC took their sales data private a couple years back and we started using Famitsu.

Like New Pokémon Snap above, Nintendo only publishes the game outside Japan, so for Japanese data we have to use aggregators.

I don't foresee any issue around reliability with MC, but if there is anything I've overlooked about this one, let me know. marsdeat^Talk 15:26, 30 August 2021 (UTC)

Pokémon Unite

Per Nintendo, Pokémon Unite has been downloaded 9 million times. Does it count as sales? Juxlos (talk) 01:50, 17 September 2021 (UTC)

No, because it's not sold. Sergecross73 msg me 01:51, 17 September 2021 (UTC)

Luigi's Mansion 3

I'm putting this explanation here to clarify why I've reverted LM3's sales numbers:

The overall sales numbers (9.59mn) given in the fiscal report for FY ending 3/21 are shipped numbers from Nintendo to distributors/retailers, but the second number (0.7mn) that was being used from the 11/21 corporate briefing is sell-THROUGH from retailers to consumers between 4/21 and 9/21. We cannot and do not know the proportion of those sales attributable to shipments this FY, so we can't combine those two numbers meaningfully. (That is to say: some or all of those .7mn units could have already been shipped in the previous FY, we have no metric here.)

As we generally use the shipment numbers from Nintendo, I've reverted the claim on the page. marsdeat^Talk 19:15, 9 November 2021 (UTC)

Resident Evil Revelations Collection

The collection shipped a million units according to Capcom. It should be on this list. The source was Capcoms own million sellers list, their Platinum Titles. It's removal is nonsensical. It should be added back. BB1802 (talk) 12:37, 8 December 2021 (UTC)

Please provide a reliable source that states that the Switch version specifically sold a million (or however many) copies. Sergecross73 msg me 15:31, 8 December 2021 (UTC)

It was already in this article with the source. You can't tell me you don't know that. https://www.capcom.co.jp/ir/english/finance/million.html BB1802 (talk) 22:59, 8 December 2021 (UTC)

I'm not sure who you think I am, but I don't believe you and I have ever interacted before, so I dont know where you get off telling me what I know or dont know about this. I saw an editor complaining about an entry not being on a list, and I told them they'd need a source, something they didn't include in their original complaint. Sergecross73 msg me 00:08, 9 December 2021 (UTC)

I've seen you edit this page before, that's why Inasumed you would've seen that game on the list in past few weeks. Sorry if I came of harsh. An anonymous editor removed it for reasons I disagree with, since the source wasn't an issue before it shouldn't be now. BB1802 (talk) 03:34, 9 December 2021 (UTC)

Just take a look into the pages edit history. BB1802 (talk) 03:36, 9 December 2021 (UTC)

So it looks like the IP is concerned that they may be double-counting the digital copies - separately counting buying both titles in the collection as 2 sales instead of one. I'm not immediately seeing anything that confirms or denies that. I'm not sure where the IP is getting that theory, but I also can't disprove it. I can't really tell either way. Do you have any additional insight? Sergecross73 msg me 13:56, 9 December 2021 (UTC)

Capcom lists it as NSW and DL, which means download. I do not know how exactly they count the digital sales, but they put it on their list so I think it should be here too. I don't see how and why they would count both games being bought digitally as two sales of the collection. I think they count 1 million people having bought either the physical collection or both games digitally. BB1802 (talk) 14:39, 9 December 2021 (UTC)

My concern is that the collection is a physical one only. Digitally, you can only buy the two games in it separately. Furthermore, this physical collection doesn't even exist in Europe (https://www.nintendolife.com/news/2017/11/resident_evil_revelations_collection_isnt_getting_a_physical_release_on_switch_in_europe). So it looks like they agglomerates physical sales for the collection with digital sales for Resident Evil Revelations 1 and Resident Evil Revelations 2. 81.64.154.219 14:49, 9 December 2021 (UTC)

You both make good points. I just can't tell who is actually correct. Might help to see if Capcom mentions their methodology at all anywhere? Sergecross73 msg me 18:59, 9 December 2021 (UTC)

Quarterly updates

Pokemon Sword/Shield's number is wrong, Nintendo's documents show it at 23.9, not 23.8 million. The New Pokemon Snap number also needs to be updated, Nintendo also updated the shipment number of that title. BB1802 (talk) 10:01, 3 February 2022 (UTC)

Pokémon Legends Arceus

So everyone is reporting this as sales, when the tweet they’re citing says ‘players’… But 4gamer.net does seem to have the actual press release, which DOES seem say ‘sales’…

4gamer link Google Translate link

Can we actually find this press release anywhere to cite? marsdeat^Talk 12:52, 4 February 2022 (UTC)

Update: Famitsu also has this same release quoted. GT Famitsu. marsdeat^Talk 12:56, 4 February 2022 (UTC)

Pokémon legends

I belueve the number given for Pokémon legends: arceus is based on copies sold during the first week, rather than total. I'm trying to find updated numbers, but not explaining that 6.5mil figure seems misleading Elodieme (talk) 17:17, 28 April 2022 (UTC)

It's likely just all they've announced so far. Nintendo tends to give quarterly updates on sales and Arceus just hasn't been out that long. We'll probably get updates figures soon. Sergecross73 msg me 18:18, 28 April 2022 (UTC)

Nintendo will provide number up to March 31st on May 10th in their investors meeting. Currently there is no other number publicly available beyond that 6.5 million number. BB1802 (talk) 19:32, 28 April 2022 (UTC)

Japan CESA Games White Paper 2021

Japan's CESA Games White Paper 2021 is now available as of April 25, 2022. Has anyone ordered a copy? --MR.RockGamer17 (talk) 14:54, 26 April 2022 (UTC)

Here's the info from the CESA Games White Paper 2021, as of December 31st 2020: Mario Tennis Aces: 3.66mil 1-2-Switch: 3.45mil DKC Tropical Freeze: 3.42mil Kirby Star Allies: 3.42mil Fire Emblem: Three Houses: 3.4mil ARMS: 2.56mil Yoshi's Crafted World: 2.56mil Xenoblade Chronicles 2: 2.17mil Octopath Traveler (Outside Japan): 1.9mil Captain Toad: Treasure Tracker: 1.77mil Pokémon Mystery Dungeon:Rescue Team DX: 1.6mil Nintendo Labo 01: 1.42mil Marvel Ultimate Alliance 3: 1.31mil Astral Chain: 1.21mil

New million seller: Dr. Kawashima's Brain Training for Nintendo Switch: 1.05mil

We can take this number for Octopath Traveler and add the physical Japanese sales like with some other games on the list. BB1802 (talk) 10:51, 30 April 2022 (UTC)

References

Semi-protected edit request on 6 May 2022

The Minecraft number is off. If it is 2.6 million + 500,000, that would be 3.1 million, not 3.01 million 100.35.155.172 (talk) 11:55, 6 May 2022 (UTC)

 Done — CAPTAIN JTK (talk) 14:51, 6 May 2022 (UTC)

Slight list fixes

Two changes.

1). Brain Training and Game Builder Garage need to be flipped on the list since the new fiscal report numbers for GBG put it over BT.

2). The newest fiscal report puts New Pokemon Snap at 2.4 million. The latest number from Famitsu for Japanese physical sales puts it at 340k. So it should be at 2.74 million.

Link to the latest Snap JP number https://www.gematsu.com/2022/04/famitsu-sales-4-18-22-4-24-22

100.35.155.172 (talk) 11:42, 10 May 2022 (UTC)

 Done ;; Maddy ♥︎(they/she)♥︎ :: talk  10:47, 29 May 2022 (UTC)

Bandai Namco CESA Games White Book shipment numbers

The CESA Games White Book 2021 includes platform specific numbers up until December 31st 2021 for several Bandai Namco games.

Dragon Ball Xenoverse 2 at 1.27 million.

Dragon Ball Fighter Z at 1.38 million.

Taiko no Tatsujin: Drum 'n' Fun! at 1.34 million.

I'm not very good at making these edits so it would be nice if someone else would be so kind as to do it. Thank you. BB1802 (talk) 10:01, 25 May 2022 (UTC)

If you could supply that source, I'd be willing to add it. Bruce Campbell (talk) 04:58, 4 June 2022 (UTC)

2021CESAゲーム白書 (2021 CESA Games White Papers). Computer Entertainment Supplier's Association. 2021. ISBN 978-4-902346-43-5. This book. Several other numbers in this article are also from this source.

Thanks in advance. BB1802 (talk) 11:01, 4 June 2022 (UTC)

I have looked thoroughly online and have found no other source that verifies these numbers. Do you have something that proves these numbers as accurate? A scan of the page where these numbers are listed, another online source that cites them, etc? Bruce Campbell (talk) 02:38, 6 June 2022 (UTC)

For what it's worth, CESA is a reliable source we use in many places. -- ferret (talk) 14:13, 6 June 2022 (UTC)

I get the skepticism though, I do see an awful lot of bogus sales figures getting presented, both in good-faith and in bad-faith. Sergecross73 msg me 14:41, 6 June 2022 (UTC)

The source is absolutely credible, but where from that source are those numbers given? The 2021 CESA guide was released a while ago, and a lot of different people have already gone through it. Yet until now nobody has ever mentioned these supposed Bandai numbers. If the numbers were real, surely somebody online would have already cited them, mentioned them, or posted them here already. I googled a bunch of things like "Dragon Ball Fighter Z 1.38 million" and "Dragon Ball Xenoverse 2 1.27 million" in both English and Japanese but could find no other online source that has ever mentioned these numbers. Assuming they're real it should be a very simple thing to prove. A screencap of the page they're on, a link to another article that mentioned them, etc. Bruce Campbell (talk) 18:18, 6 June 2022 (UTC)

Oh definitely. The biggest issue with CESA is getting access. -- ferret (talk) 19:01, 6 June 2022 (UTC)

https://ibb.co/album/VJ5jWJ

Dragonball Fighter Z is 450, Taiko is 463 and Dragonball Xenoverse 2 is 482. I get your skepticism, but I wouldn't lie about this. BB1802 (talk) 09:15, 7 June 2022 (UTC)

Excuse the skepticism, but it is the way of this website. As proof has been shown, the claims have been verified and the list has been updated. If the book has more games that have sold a million units, let us know and they'll be added as well. Very useful source of information. Bruce Campbell (talk) 18:28, 7 June 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 28 June 2022

Mario + Rabbids: Kingdom Battle's sales are inaccurate. Ubisoft Milan's creative director has indicated that the game has sold 7.5 million as of June 13, 2021. Here is the source:

https://twitter.com/DavideSoliani/status/1404142825562853378 2601:153:4102:C4B0:FC31:A1BA:424D:943B (talk) 04:37, 28 June 2022 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. The creative director is not independent or reliable for this information. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 10:43, 28 June 2022 (UTC)

This has also been added and removed multiple times before, because the tweet says 7.5 million players, which is not the same as copies sold. TheHumanIntersect (talk) 11:32, 28 June 2022 (UTC)

Dragon Quest XI S Sales

Does the CESA Games White Papers provide a number for sales outside of Japan for Dragon Quest XI S: Echoes of an Elusive Age - Definitive Edition? According the game data library, the physical sales for Japan are at 750,252. MR.RockGamer17 (talk) 18:42, 19 July 2022 (UTC)

I don't think I've ever seen Square break out sales by platform for this game, no. Sergecross73 msg me 19:14, 19 July 2022 (UTC)

Nintendo published the game outside of Japan for Nintendo Switch. Nintendo may provide a sales number in the CESA Games White Papers. MR.RockGamer17 (talk) 22:46, 19 July 2022 (UTC)

Yeah, it's possible, but I don't believe they have either yet. Sergecross73 msg me 22:49, 19 July 2022 (UTC)

Kirby and the forgotten Land and Mario Strikers Battle League

Kirby and the forgotten land has been reported to have at least 4 million sales while Mario strikers Battle League has 1.91 million. The former needs to be updated and the latter needs to be added to the list. These sales were reported in the pdf 220803_2e on pages 10 and 13

Nintendo investor relations information

Macmonkeyhat (talk) 11:56, 3 August 2022 (UTC)

Mario + Rabbids: Kingdom Battle

game has sold 7.5 million copies, someone can add this number source https://twitter.com/DavideSoliani/status/1404142825562853378 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 37.8.230.177 (talk) 14:39, 22 August 2022 (UTC)

This has already been discussed at length. He says players, not copies sold. There's a difference. If you bought a copy of the game and let two friends play it, that would be 3 players, even though only one copy was sold. Sergecross73 msg me 15:31, 22 August 2022 (UTC)

CESA Games White Paper 2022 updates

The next CESA Games White Paper has been published. These numbers are as of December 31st 2021:

Super Mario 3D All-Stars: 9.07 million

Super Mario Maker 2: 7.89 million

TLoZ: Link's Awakening: 6.08 million

Mario Tennis Aces: 4.28 million

DKC: Tropical Freeze: 4.12M

Kirby Star Allies: 3.98 million

FE: Three Houses: 3.82M

1-2-Switch: 3.63 million

Paper Mario: The Origami King: 3.34 million

Yoshi's Crafted World: 3.01 million

Arms: 2.66 million

Pikmin 3 Deluxe: 2.23 million

Captain Toad: Treasure Tracker: 2.13 million

Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Rescue Team DX: 1.89 million

Xenoblade Chronicles: DE: 1.68 million

Mario Kart Live: Home Circuit: 1.58 million

MUA 3: The Black Order: 1.5 million

Astral Chain: 1.28 million

Dr. Kawashima's Brain Training: 1.2 million

New entry: Bayonetta 2: 1.04 million

Bandai Namco games:

Dragon Ball FighterZ: 2.01 million

Dragon Ball Xenoverse 2: 1.55 million

New entry: Naruto Shippuden: Ultimate Ninja Storm Trilogy: 1.26 million

The other games stayed unchanged.

I'm putting this here because I'm not that good at editing. I did the same with the last White Paper and am asking someone to do the editing please. Thanks in advance. BB1802 (talk) 13:09, 29 August 2022 (UTC)

https://www.cesa.or.jp/survey/book/hakusho/detail001_2022.html Here for reference. BB1802 (talk) 13:13, 29 August 2022 (UTC)

Does Nintendo provide a number for Dragon Quest XI S Sales outside of Japan, since they published the Nintendo Switch version outside of Japan. According to the Game Data Library, it has sold 750,525 physically in Japan. MR.RockGamer17 (talk) 14:37, 29 August 2022 (UTC)

There is no sales number for Dragon Quest XI S. BB1802 (talk) 21:47, 29 August 2022 (UTC)