Talk:Jungkook/Archive 1

Archive 1

Article accepted

This article was officially approved but for some reason the person who approved it, @Dan Arndt, didn't move it. I copied what was approved to here. If someone else knows how to merge/move then the approved article can be found here. https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft_talk:Jungkook_(singer)&action=history Ukiss2ne14lyfe (talk) 13:40, 11 October 2018 (UTC)

Requested move 31 October 2018

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: not moved (page mover nac) Flooded with them hundreds 13:46, 9 November 2018 (UTC)

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• Jungkook → Jeon Jung-kook
• Jimin (singer, born 1995) → Park Ji-min (singer, born 1995)

– per WP:NCP's WP:MONONYM: "Similarly, don't use a first name (even if unambiguous) for an article title if the last name is known and fairly often used". End of. Tibbydibby (talk) 23:30, 31 October 2018 (UTC)

• Support I tried enforcing this during the Drafts, but was overridden by the other editors who insisted that the stage name was far more known. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 23:51, 31 October 2018 (UTC)

• Oppose: WP:COMMONAME and WP:MONONYM, which has the addition "Only if the single name is used as a true artist's name (stage name, pseudonym, etc.) can the recommendations of Nicknames, pen names, stage names, cognomens below be followed" which these people fall under. Jimin and Jungkook are mononyms these artists use as a member of BTS.

Nearly all sources used in the article list them under the mononym "Jimin" or "Jungkook" and any mention of their last name in these articles mentions it once before using the mononym or does not mention their last names at all. (This article from Billboard about Jungkook mentions his last name as a fact and does not use it again as his mononym is his stage name. The article equivalent for Jimin does not even mention his last name.) The single name appears on all official artist sites for him through their label as well. Both also use their mononym for official legal credits at the Korean Music Copyright Association. (See here, search "10005241" for Jimin's credits and "10005242" for Jungkook's credits under "Writers & Publishers" to view.) Their last names are not mentioned enough to justify the page move. It's very common for artists who are most commonly known mononymously to have their pages be titled as such - see Zendaya (not Zendaya Coleman), Normani (not Normani Kordei), Khalid (not Khalid Robinson), and Daesung (not Kang Dae-sung), to name a few.

Thus, there is sufficient evidence here to prove that this meets the criteria of the "single name is used as a true artist's name" from WP:MONONYM for it to be kept like this. DanielleTH ^{(Say hi!)}

• Oppose: He's more known as Jungkook, not his entire Korean name. The only reason Jin has his entire name was because how common that name is.Ukiss2ne14lyfe (talk) 05:15, 1 November 2018 (UTC)

• Oppose: Per DanielleTH's explanation. It looks like you saw that initial sentence and didn’t read anything else after that regarding the articles name and requested the move Alexanderlee (talk) 09:08, 1 November 2018 (UTC)

• Comment: The main question is then why is Taeyeon (who isn't very well referred to by her last name) is titled Kim Tae-yeon and why are all the Super Junior members have their LAST names as part of their article titles? Tibbydibby (talk) 15:14, 1 November 2018 (UTC)

Tibbydibby Whoever created them made them that way. Looking at the history of a talk page if there was any discussion about it you could find out there. Also, they're both older groups so standards could have changed when their articles were created. You would have to talk about it there on those talk pages if you want it changed to current standards.Ukiss2ne14lyfe (talk) 15:21, 1 November 2018 (UTC)

• Support: Per Tibbydibby - Last name is a natural disambiguator, esp when their artist name is just their actual first name. It is not an true stage name as in Seohyun or Irene (singer). As examples, Kim Tae-yeon, Kwon Yu-ri, Kim Hee-chul, Yoon Bo-ra. Korean names that are usually ambiguous result in [Group name]'s First Name being used. It is logically consistent and supports WP:MONONYM as used in more encyclopedic works, not just company press releases. Evaders99 (talk) 05:02, 2 November 2018 (UTC)

• Oppose. The article starts by Jeon Jung-kook (전정국; born September 1, 1997), better known mononymously as Jungkook, is a South Korean singer. Changing this opening phrase into "Jungkook (born 1997-09-01), lesser known polynymously as Jeon Jungkook, is a Korean singer" doesn't appear as an improvement. We have here a stare decisis case: don't change unless something is broken. Concerning disambiguation, let us wait for the ambiguity to appear. And then decide what is the pertinent disambiguator. May be Jeon, may be singer, may be 1997, who knows ? Pldx1 (talk) 09:58, 6 November 2018 (UTC)

• Oppose per WP:COMMONNAME. Jungkook is much better known by his mononym. Also, the page for Jimin should be at Jimin (singer), since there is no other singer known by the mononym Jimin with a Wikipedia article. Other singers with the name Jimin use a hyphen (Ji-min), while the BTS Jimin does not, and no further article title disambiguation is needed, per WP:SMALLDETAILS. 83.248.186.87 (talk) 20:54, 7 November 2018 (UTC)

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Viral

DanielleTH are we not allowed to put in a note when they go viral. Numerous news sources have written about it, but it was taken out. I wasn't sure if there was a policy against that. Ukiss2ne14lyfe (talk) 03:49, 20 December 2018 (UTC)

@Ukiss2ne14lyfe: Sorry I was putting in all the order of cultural merit stuff, I really should've discussed it first since we didn't have a consensus about it like we did most handsome lists so I really should've discussed it first. I put it back. Anyways, my only confusion with it is that I feel like it's very much WP:FANCRUFT. J-Hope's "In My Feelings" challenge was removed due to falling under this, as it stayed viral mostly within the fandom and doesn't directly pertain to his career as an idol/rapper/professional dancer (though I guess now for that I could see it being added to an impact section given it was the most liked tweet of 2018). Jungkook going viral on twitter is similar, he went viral among fans, and these articles were written in response to that, and it's unrelated to his career as a singer. DanielleTH ^{(Say hi!)} 04:16, 20 December 2018 (UTC)

As an addendum, I feel like this could apply to the viral stuff on Kim Seok-jin, too. Would love to hear your thoughts. DanielleTH ^{(Say hi!)} 04:20, 20 December 2018 (UTC)

If there's a consensus then we can take it out, but none of those articles say they went viral in the fandom. It says they went viral. Seokjin's in particular prove it wasn't fandom that caused it because fans aren't going to say "car door guy" or "third from the left" to figure out who he is. I wasn't going to put Jungkook's in but even Time wrote about it, the source I used, so I put it in. The only thing I wasn't certain of was if those types of things were fancruft like you mentioned. Ukiss2ne14lyfe (talk) 14:29, 20 December 2018 (UTC)

Just to add input to this, it seems very fancruft information. There’s no evidence of this having any impact on either of their careers or that of BTS, and celebrities have gone viral for various things over the years, but not everything that goes viral is in articles, even if it is reported about. Especially with Jin’s, it literally just a case of him being good lucking and people talking about it. Yes it made news articles, but it just seems trivial. Alexanderlee (talk) 15:01, 20 December 2018 (UTC)

Okay, sounds good. I'll remove it from the pages. Ukiss2ne14lyfe (talk) 15:20, 20 December 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 4 May 2019

Jeonrad0901 (talk) 15:51, 4 May 2019 (UTC)

 Not done: as you have not requested a change.
Please request your change in the form "Please replace XXX with YYY" or "Please add ZZZ between PPP and QQQ".
Please also cite reliable sources to back up your request, without which no information should be added to, or changed in, any article. - Arjayay (talk) 15:54, 4 May 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 5 May 2019

His actual name is 'Jeon Jeongguk' I just want his real name on the page. So if you could change on line one where it says 'Jungkook' to 'Jeongguk' that would be best, I think. 2A02:C7D:A039:1500:2507:690C:DE17:603C (talk) 12:08, 5 May 2019 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. – Þjarkur (talk) 12:19, 5 May 2019 (UTC)

Jungkook Occupation

Antis removed he is main vocalist , main dancer , subrapper and center too can someone please correct this?? AimanAyesha (talk) 14:31, 5 May 2019 (UTC)

User:Joshua Menon, please edit from your main account. Creating multiple accounts to sway consensus is not permitted. – Þjarkur (talk) 14:39, 5 May 2019 (UTC)

Jungkook is main vocal of BTS

More pointless ranting. For the users seeking to label Jungkook as a "main vocalist", please see Talk:Jungkook#"Main Vocalist" for reasons why its not added. In the meantime, I'll be adding a {{Recruiting}} template as I also see users requesting this same change outside of the talk page. The enwiki community follows their own rules here, not the K-Pop giants. theinstantmatrix (talk) 10:46, 10 May 2019 (UTC)
The following discussion has been closed. Please do not modify it.
He is a Korean singer. K-pop groups all have positions. He is the only person in the main vocal position of BTS. It's not something you can have on your own. It is the title given to him by the procedure. He is introduced as a main vocal in various media and media. So we all knew he was the main vocal. Schnapper rock (talk) 19:08, 5 May 2019 (UTC) Even if my Writing were deleted, I would keep writing them again. Schnapper rock (talk) 19:11, 5 May 2019 (UTC) I don't know why his official title main vocal is under discussion. Schnapper rock (talk) 19:13, 5 May 2019 (UTC) Jungkook was also introduced as the main vocalist on many Japanese TV shows. Schnapper rock (talk) 19:20, 5 May 2019 (UTC) The Anti are only offering very poor articles. But the media where he was introduced as Maine has many very popular things like TV shows. Schnapper rock (talk) 19:22, 5 May 2019 (UTC) But the media where he was introduced as Maine has many very popular things like TV shows. Schnapper rock (talk) 19:23, 5 May 2019 (UTC) http://m.insight.co.kr/news/150954 This is said Cleary that Jungkook is the main vocalist. Because the Video was filmed, produced, edited and distributed by BIGHIT, a BTS company. That he said so on the screen is the same as saying that the company designated him as a main vocalist. He said he didn't know he would be the main vocalist in the film. this mean Jungkook's now the main vocal. Again, this is a film from a BTS agency called the BigHit Entertainment. Schnapper rock (talk) 19:46, 5 May 2019 (UTC) youtu.be/WmLg-fY4i8o Also South Korea's very famous public TV program, The Masked Singer, introduced JUNGKOOK as the main vocal of the BTS. I attached a photo capturing the scene from the TV program. (1:49~1:52 in Video. Subtitles 메인보컬 means main vocal) Schnapper rock (talk) 19:52, 5 May 2019 (UTC) There are many TV programs that introduce Jungkook as the main vocal, not only in Korea but also in Japan. Jungkook is Korean singer. In South Korea, He is known as the main vocal. Already!!! Schnapper rock (talk) 19:59, 5 May 2019 (UTC) Who cares really, he is a member of BTS and thats everything that needs to be included in the lead section, check articles of some non-Korean band members, this is not a fancruft forum to post "official positions" like the youngest member, "face", "maknae", "main dancer" etc., not to mention that there is no adequate explanation what the hell does "main" and "lead" vocalist even means, even the company themselves doesnt know it, they add it for a fancruft purposes. Whats the differene between "main vocal" and "lead vocal"? No one knows. Snowflake91 (talk) 20:55, 5 May 2019 (UTC) Your evidence is a very poor article. On the other side, The evidence I've presented is that the movie was made by BigHit Entertainment and a famous TV show made by the largest broadcasting station MBC in Korea. There are many articles and programs Jungkook introduced as the main vocalist. So Jungkook is already known as the main vocalist. I don't have to submit any more evidence because your evidence is very poor. Schnapper rock (talk) 06:44, 6 May 2019 (UTC) I don't care if Wikipedia doesn't say he's the main vocalist. Because Wikipedia is just Wikipedia. Jungkook's still the main vocalist. Schnapper rock (talk) 06:45, 6 May 2019 (UTC) Thats nice, now stop spamming here and go back to fan forums. Snowflake91 (talk) 09:36, 6 May 2019 (UTC) This is not a spamming. My writing has been erased without my knowledge, so I'll just leave it alone one more. Why do you want to change the rules set by K-pop giants? Every group in K-pop sets a main vocalist. Jungkook is just one of them. So don't forget he's the main vocalist. Even though there's no Wikipedia.  Schnapper rock (talk) 18:14, 6 May 2019 (UTC)

A Commons file used on this page has been nominated for deletion

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• Jeon Jung-kook at Ulsan Summer Festival 2016 01.jpg

Participate in the deletion discussion at the nomination page. —Community Tech bot (talk) 02:06, 13 May 2019 (UTC)

Networth

Seventeen quoted Celebrity Net Worth as a cite for how much Jungkook is worth. Would that validate the numbers anymore since other places are quoting that figure too? I wanted to check before adding it in case seventeen was considered a tabloid and unreliable.[1] Ukiss2ne14lyfe (talk) 13:43, 23 May 2019 (UTC)

Seventeen is usually an okay news source but given that Billboard quotes Soompi sometimes I'm still personally inclined to be skeptical. DanielleTH ^{(Say hi!)} 02:58, 24 May 2019 (UTC)

Awards and nomination

There should be a row of liskook nomination in kca2019 Zihan sabah (talk) 18:37, 18 June 2019 (UTC)

It should be changed Zihan sabah (talk) 18:38, 18 June 2019 (UTC)

Discovery other charted songs

Add waste it on me and dream glow Zihan sabah (talk) 18:46, 18 June 2019 (UTC)

GLOBAL INSTAGRAMMER AWARDS RESULTS ARE OUT

Hello everyone!! MTV Millennial Awards results are out!! Jungkook (personal award) has WON the global instaramer award !! PLEASE MAKE THE NECESSARY CHANGES!! THANK YOU!! :) REF: https://www.eluniversal.com.mx/espectaculos/bad-bunny-juliantina-y-lizbeth-rodriguez-triunfan-en-los-mtv-miaw-2019

 Done --Chiya⁹² 09:51, 22 June 2019 (UTC)

translation

there's no translation into Polish, someone deleted it Yoongi sduck (talk) 10:18, 12 August 2019 (UTC)

You should ask at Polish wiki why was the page deleted then, en Wikipedia has nothing to do with that. Snowflake91 (talk) 10:23, 12 August 2019 (UTC)

w:pl:Jungkook for convenience. First deleted as a test, again as vandalism, then recreated for a 3rd time, but was moved to w:pl:Wikipedysta:DZakowska/Jungkook as it needs to be refined (according to Google Translate). Snowflake is right; you'll need to ask the people at Polish Wikipedia why that happened; we at the English Wikipedia can't help you there. theinstantmatrix (talk) 10:28, 12 August 2019 (UTC)

BEGIN - JUNGKOOK

BEGIN

 "Begin" is a solo song by Jungkook. It was released on October 10, 2016, as the third track in the albums Wings and You Never Walk Alone. It was written by Tony Esterly, David Quinones, RM with Tony Esterly being the producer.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by TeamSWU068 (talk • contribs) 08:33, 11 December 2019 (UTC) 

About jungkook occupation

I think antis romoved he is the main vocalist lead dancer , sub rapper & center..can u fix it Jkmaknae (talk) 18:57, 4 May 2019 (UTC)

No - as can be seen above; it has been agreed NOT to add such descriptions _ Arjayay (talk) 19:02, 4 May 2019 (UTC)

Please someone correct this AimanAyesha (talk) 14:16, 5 May 2019 (UTC)

I know main Vocalist is still under discussion (ridiculous if you ask me). But can someone please add dancer? As a member of the dance line he deserves to have that title as much as Jimin, j-Hope and V do as well. KekeKookie (talk) 02:06, 23 May 2020 (UTC)

Important notices are missing

This information has to be added- Jungkook is the Main Vocalist, Lead Dancer, Sub Rapper, Center, Maknae of BTS. This is the source https://kprofiles.com/bts-bangtan-boys-members-profile/

Please someone correct this 🙏 AimanAyesha (talk) 14:14, 5 May 2019 (UTC)

I second this!!!! Please add this!!!! There is no reason this should be missing from his page. Leaving important information out of his page is misleading. If this kind of thing continues with BTS and especially Jungkook as so many people seem to be Targeting him, then I will be going public with this!!! Let's how fast the entire ARMY can solve this problem. KekeKookie (talk) 02:10, 23 May 2020 (UTC)

Music genres to add

We only have 2 music genres for JK. He has done so many more. I feel this need to be updated. Kpop, EDM, pop, Rap, R&B, Hip-Hip,etc. KekeKookie (talk) 02:18, 23 May 2020 (UTC)

Still With You (BTS FESTA)

In the page, I quote that it reads, "On June 4, 2020, Jungkook released the song "Still With You", for free on platforms such as SoundCloud as a part of BTS' yearly debut celebrations. Billboard described the song as having "tinkling synths and gently strummed guitars and brushed drums". Jungkook produced the piece himself.[31]"

"The BTS singer produced the song along with Big Hit Entertainment's producer Pdogg, according to BTS' Twitter." was a quote I found online in the following article BTS' Jungkook releases new solo track 'Still with You'

Here are the credits listed on BTS's blog (https://btsblog.ibighit.com/) "Produced by Pdogg, Jung Kook (Jung Kook, Pdogg) Keyboard - Pdogg Synthesizer - Pdogg Guitar – 정재필 Background vocals – Jung Kook Vocal Arrangement – Pdogg Recording Engineers - Pdogg @ Dogg Bounce

                                 - 정우영 @ Big Hit Studio

Digital Editing – GHSTLOOP, Summergal Mix Engineer – Yang Ga @ Big Hit Studio Mastering Engineer - Yang Ga @ Big Hit Studio"

Should this be edited? (Location of the passage quoted Career --> 2015—present: Solo Activities) Adarkassassin (talk) 15:13, 13 June 2020 (UTC)

Adarkassassin (talk) 15:13, 13 June 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 17 June 2020

Change "He is a member and vocalist of the South Korean boy band BTS" to "He is a member and the main vocalist of the South Korean boy band BTS." 2A01:E0A:F1:58B0:1D82:5EC7:E85A:ED62 (talk) 15:08, 17 June 2020 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. —KuyaBriBri^Talk 16:11, 17 June 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 23 June 2020

2001:D08:C2:92B:9C99:E047:EE8C:9CB (talk) 09:49, 23 June 2020 (UTC)
i wanna change the picture of jungkook profile bcs its a old picture and i want tk change it to a new picture

Not done for now: Please upload a NON-COPYRIGHT picture to Wikimedia Commons (use "Upload file" in the left hand column).
Almost all images that you find on the internet, in magazines etc. are copyright, and, unless you took the picture yourself, you will need to show proof that it is not copyright.
Once the image is uploaded, please reactivate this request, (by changing answered=y to answered=no in the top line) and give the exact title of the image you want added. - Arjayay (talk) 09:52, 23 June 2020 (UTC)

Add 'record producer' to intro

Run (BTS_song) lists Jungkook as a producer of the song. Love Yourself: Tear also lists him as a producer for "Magic Shop". Shouldn't 'record producer' be added to his intro? Katabatic03 ^talk 09:22, 1 August 2020 (UTC)

For two songs? No, this isn't his occupation. Alex (talk) 09:30, 1 August 2020 (UTC)

G.C.F

Hi. I think the G.C.F videos should be mentioned somewhere. He directed all of them. But since they're short films, not music videos, I don't know if they're considered important enough to be on the filmography section, so I want to ask for opinions. -- Ivanacccp (talk) 01:43, 29 September 2020 (UTC)

Signature

I found jungkook's siganture in the Wikipedia Commons. Should we add it?

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Signature_of_BTS%27_Jungkook.svg

SmallPotato ^talk 19:46, 9 October 2020 (UTC)

Main vocal position removed?

Why is his position as main vocal not included anymore? You can even see the incorrect grammar as this was removed by antis. YukaMay24 (talk) 16:16, 17 October 2020 (UTC)

Adding English Pronunciation

I will add English pronunciation to the main page (/dʒɒŋˈkuːk/ JONG-kook). Is this ok? Marc Raphael Felix (talk) 09:54, 7 November 2020 (UTC)

I don't think that's really necessary to add to the page. SmallPotato (✉ ● ✎) 14:23, 7 November 2020 (UTC)

--Ttooulis99 (talk) 21:36, 17 November 2020 (UTC)--

Semi-protected edit request on 18 November 2020

i want to edit jungkook's wiki

}} Ramupavani (talk) 08:26, 18 November 2020 (UTC)

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Please also cite reliable sources to back up your request, without which no information should be added to, or changed in, any article. SmallPotato (✉ ● ✎) 16:46, 18 November 2020 (UTC)

Injuries and details of performance

I think it's worth including things such as Jungkook's injury preventing him from dancing at the concert at the O2 in 2018. It is notable when concerts do not go as planned. Battleofalma (talk) 15:28, 30 October 2018 (UTC)

To expand, Battleofalma had placed information on Jungkook hurting himself on the wiki page and I deleted it as I felt like it wasn't notable since nothing was cancelled and things continued on. If anyone else has any input on whether it should be included or not please comment. Ukiss2ne14lyfe (talk) 16:31, 30 October 2018 (UTC)

I think it should be added since he couldn't perform. He could only sing. D1 of the concert he was on stage just after having stages backstage and on anesthesia. This was a very emotional and significant time for both Jungkook and ARMYs. I think it should be added. KekeKookie (talk) 02:14, 23 May 2020 (UTC)

I agree with User:KekeKookie. Jungkook has talked about that time in many interviews and vlives (Specifically his solo vlive from 2018 when they were performing in Berlin, Germany), and has said that it was a very hard and formative time for him. Not being able to perform and worrying that he couldn't perform for Army that spent lots of money to see him, was hard for him. I think it should be put in. — Preceding unsigned comment added by KelseyJohnson07 (talk • contribs) 10:45, 7 December 2020 (UTC)

My Time sales units

My Time sales units are wrongly written 11000 when the Forbes article refered here mentions 19000 units for debut week Indusvalley2203 (talk) 21:01, 5 December 2020 (UTC)

@Indusvalley2203: Hi, you're right. I've gone ahead and updated the number, thanks! ⇒ Lucie Person (talk|contribs) 17:04, 7 December 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 13 November 2020

Please add that he is a dancer, producer and director. Thank you! Ttooulis99 (talk) 22:49, 13 November 2020 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. As far as I know, he is most widely notable for being a singer-songwriter, and is not considered a widely known professional dancer, producer or director. If you can find several reliable sources that states otherwise, then the change can be made. ɴᴋᴏɴ21 ❯❯❯ talk 23:25, 13 November 2020 (UTC)

I appreciate your answer and your thoughts on this issue! I found this a page that says "This page uses Creative Commons Licensed content from Wikipedia": https://bts.fandom.com/wiki/Jungkook Also for the upcoming album, his directing some of the songs. Here is the link for that: https://www.allkpop.com/article/2020/11/jeon-jungkook-and-director-jk-trend-worldwide-after-release-of-life-goes-on-mv-teaser-as-it-becomes-the-fastest-mv-teaser-to-surpass-1-million-likes-in-youtube-history Another link: https://www.pinkvilla.com/entertainment/bts-jungkook-turns-director-be-album-song-mv-reveals-regret-he-had-during-my-time-act-mots-one-569706

Kind Regards — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ttooulis99 (talk • contribs) 21:25, 17 November 2020 (UTC)

@Ttooulis99: allkpop and pinkvilla are not reliable sources according to WP:KO/RS. Also, directing (1) music video does not equate to him being a director as a profession; it's more of a one off thing for now. Content on Fandom (Wikia) is not held to the same standards as English Wikipedia and cannot be cited here, also they copy a lot of their content from the articles on here (that is what that notice means). As Nkon21 said above, the information must come from a reliable secondary source for it to be added. -- Carlobunnie (talk) 21:36, 17 November 2020 (UTC)

Please include that he is a dancer, producer and director. Thank you! CatherineroseDecruz (talk 11:46, 20 January 2021 (UTC)

CatherineroseDecruz, No, for reasons already discussed. ɴᴋᴏɴ21 ❯❯❯ talk 14:01, 20 January 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 6 January 2021

Change "He is a member of and vocalist in the South Korean boy band BTS" to "He is a member of and main vocalist in the South Korean boy band BTS" Jeonsuzy (talk) 13:06, 6 January 2021 (UTC)

 Not done. Please see Talk:Jungkook#"Main_Vocalist". Alex (talk) 14:32, 6 January 2021 (UTC)

I have already seen it, but I don't see the problem with mentioning his position in the group in his profile. Other Kpop group profiles mention main vocalists, but only in BTS they don't. Being a main vocalist is a very hard job and should be credited. Therefore, by not crediting him of his position, you are undermining the work Jungkook puts in to the group. I hope you can reflect on this, and make changes, as many other Armys agree with this view. Thankyou!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jeonsuzy (talk • contribs) 18:31, 6 January 2021 (UTC)

I have removed mentions of "main vocalist" on a couple of articles. If you spot more, feel free to remove them and refer to the discussion given above. ɴᴋᴏɴ21 ❯❯❯ talk 18:41, 6 January 2021 (UTC)

Wait, I don't know what you are saying. You haven't addressed my point, please give me a valid reason why you can't add Jungkook is the main vocalist. The members and Jungkook themselves have said the Jungkook is the only main vocalist of the group. Why do you need to argue their point? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jeonsuzy (talk • contribs) 19:33, 6 January 2021 (UTC)

The problem is, as stated in the discussion linked above, if you include "main" for one, then you need to include all the "main", "lead" and "sub" for the others too. Especially to those who have no clue about K-pop or its terms, it can be confusig to understand the difference. Ultimately, the reader only really needs to know whether the person sings or raps within the group. Giving more detail to their voice in another section (such as artistry, perhapse) would better help the reader. Nobody is undermining anyones work here, and please don't forget that Wikipedia is not a fansite, it is not written for fans (referring to your comment that "many other Armys agree"). Alex (talk) 19:49, 6 January 2021 (UTC)

Exactly! Wikipedia is supposed to give valid information to new fans, and other people who want to find out more about Jungkook. By not adding some of his roles like Main vocalist, Video Director and Producer, you are not crediting his hard work. Also, about the fact you have to add 'lead' or 'sub' for the other members, then that is not a valid criticism to my point. Please review this! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jeonsuzy (talk • contribs) 19:58, 6 January 2021 (UTC)

You've missed the point, even with your first comment. "Wikipedia is supposed to give valid informatiom to new fans" - no Wikipedia is not a fan site. Alex (talk) 20:53, 6 January 2021 (UTC)

Then please tell what is the purpose of wikipedia!! now you're just making stuff up to defend your point. What's your problem with Jungkook?? Do you even know BTS? I don't see the problem with adding his correct position to HIS profile. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jeonsuzy (talk • contribs) 22:12, 6 January 2021 (UTC)

@Jeonsuzy: Hi, just thought I'd chime in here, as an ARMY, although that doesn't change anything. Here at Wikipedia, our purpose is to provide knowledge to all readers -- we are not targeted at a specific fanbase. We try to make information as clear as possible. As mentioned before, we are not a fansite. This issue has been discussed many many times before, and a general consensus has been reached to not include "main", "lead" or "sub" on ANY kpop page. For many readers, position names can be unclear and confusing. While I appreciate your discussion, I ask you to please be respectful of others and Wikipedia policies. Thanks!⇒ Lucie Person (talk|contribs) 01:01, 7 January 2021 (UTC)

@Lucie Person: Did you mean to tag Ukiss2ne14lyfe here? That editor hasn't commented on this thread. Alex (talk) 00:56, 7 January 2021 (UTC)

@Alexanderlee: Yeah, you're right. I've changed it. Sorry. ⇒ Lucie Person (talk|contribs) 01:01, 7 January 2021 (UTC)

Why is that you cannot add any main vocal, lead vocal, etc positions but you are fine with adding leader? I thought that Wikipedia was a place for people to find out more about this information. Purposefully removing this just because you think people will be confused? That's exactly why they will be confused. Because you don't put it in the 1st place. It is already verified information. There should be an objective standpoint. It's important information so it should be put. YukaMay24 (talk) 05:36, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

I would also like to add that "He is a member of and vocalist in the South Korean boy band BTS" is technically incorrect at this point. Shouldn't it be "He is a member and main vocalist of the South Korean boy band BTS?" Also, I wouldn't really classify BTS as a boyband. They don't really play instruments. YukaMay24 (talk) 05:40, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

A boy band in common usage is a vocal group. It doesn't mean it's an instrumental band. Evaders99 (talk) 07:14, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

"Main Vocalist"

Several accounts/IPs recently have repeatedly added text asserting Jungkook is BTS's "main vocalist." After cursory inspection, there don't seem to be any sources referenced in the article that support this claim, and such an addition must be reliably sourced in compliance with WP:BLP. I'm opening this discussion to create a place to discuss the issue, to establish the merit (or lack thereof) of these claims, and to determine whether consensus exists for their inclusion in the article. In general, the procedure for content disputes is Bold, Revert, Discuss, not Revert, Revert, Revert. Hopefully some agreement can be reached. —Rutebega (talk) 01:05, 2 May 2019 (UTC)

From what I've seen, it's a general consensus among K-Pop editors to not include "main" and "lead" positions for a couple reasons: they're rarely mentioned outside of profiles released early into a K-Pop group's career by their label, the difference between "main" and "lead" to someone not knowledgeable with K-Pop is incredibly unclear, and this ranking system is pretty much fancruft anyways. That's why none of the reliable sources in the article make a note of it. This definitely doesn't mean that his role as a prominent vocalist in BTS shouldn't be noted in something like an Artistry section, in my opinion. Explaining his voice instead of tossing "main vocalist" to the lead without any sourcing is more useful to a reader anyways. DanielleTH ^{(Say hi!)} 04:09, 2 May 2019 (UTC)

Found these articles where he is mentioned as the main vocalist https://www.scmp.com/culture/music/article/2149865/meet-jungkook-bts-youngest-member-golden-vocals-proves-he-can-offer , http://share.ew.com/YT6gsmD , and an article which shows him calling himself a main vocalist http://m.insight.co.kr/news/150954 here’s the translation https://twitter.com/jjktalents/status/995283894130827264?s=21. You can decided if they are good enough as a source or not... I just saw them on someones talk page. I kind of agree with what @DanielleTH: said about the artistry section, but I also think it won't matter if main vocalist is added only if there is a good enough source for it. Mhil00 (talk) 16:03, 2 May 2019 (UTC)

Thank you for finding those, Mhil00! I think my biggest concern is what I said above, if we add main then not adding the "lead" and "sub" roles to the other BTS members' pages would be odd, and following that, you come to the problems I listed. A casual reader would not know the difference between main and lead, and despite the term being "sub-vocalist", Jin and V aren't substitutes in the group, so that's incredibly misleading. If there was some way to present the title in a way that isn't misleading and/or confusing, I would be open to adding them. That's why I feel like, as of right now, explaining what he does instead of throwing a title into the lead accomplishes that. DanielleTH ^{(Say hi!)} 19:43, 2 May 2019 (UTC)

@DanielleTH: Now that you've put it that way, I see your point. Yes, it would be odd to not add the roles of the other members if they are added for Jungkook. You're right. I also like what you said about explaining Jungkook's role rather than just stating it for now. However, if you do decided to add main for JK, I'll just say that I don't really see anyone using the term sub for Jin and V anywhere, they usually just simply use vocalist, lead for Jimin and main for JK... maybe that could be used if main is added for JK? It's up to you guys to decide since I'm really new to this! Plus, I'm also quite conflicted on this matter. Mhil00 (talk) 21:49, 2 May 2019 (UTC)

Collapsing a rant from a new user. theinstantmatrix (talk) 10:46, 10 May 2019 (UTC)

Who deleted my words? Schnapper rock (talk) 11:36, 5 May 2019 (UTC) I proved Jungkook to be the main vocal, but someone deleted it. It's not fair that someone has erased my data. Schnapper rock (talk) 11:42, 5 May 2019 (UTC) Why do you guys come to his Wikipedia office and do anti? Evidence that he is the main vocal is a lot. But you're erasing it. If you guys do that, it won't be a fair discussion. You want to steal the main vocal title from Jungkook on purpose. Schnapper rock (talk) 11:55, 5 May 2019 (UTC) If you haven't deleted My writing, please explain why My writing're gone. Schnapper rock (talk) 11:59, 5 May 2019 (UTC) http://m.insight.co.kr/news/150954 This is said Cleary that Jungkook is the main vocalist. Because the Video was filmed, produced, edited and distributed by BIGHIT, a BTS company. That he said so on the screen is the same as saying that the company designated him as a main vocalist. He said he didn't know he would be the main vocalist in the film. this mean Jungkook's now the main vocal. Again, this is a film from a BTS agency called the BigHit Entertainment. Schnapper rock (talk) 06:52, 6 May 2019 (UTC) youtu.be/WmLg-fY4i8o Also South Korea's very famous public TV program, The Masked Singer, introduced JUNGKOOK as the main vocal of the BTS. I attached a photo capturing the scene from the TV program. (1:49~1:52 in Video. Subtitles 메인보컬 means main vocal)  Schnapper rock (talk) 06:54, 6 May 2019 (UTC) Your evidence is a very poor article. On the other side, The evidence I've presented is that the movie was made by BigHit Entertainment and a famous TV show made by the largest broadcasting station MBC in Korea. There are many articles and programs Jungkook introduced as the main vocalist. So Jungkook is already known as the main vocalist. I don't have to submit any more evidence because your evidence is very poor Schnapper rock (talk) 06:56, 6 May 2019 (UTC) I don't care if Wikipedia doesn't say he's the main vocalist. Because Wikipedia is just Wikipedia. Jungkook's still the main vocalist.  Schnapper rock (talk) 06:57, 6 May 2019 (UTC) Why do you want to change the rules set by K-pop giants? Every group in K-pop sets a main vocalist. Jungkook is just one of them. So don't forget he's the main vocalist. Even though there's no Wikipedia. Schnapper rock (talk) 07:02, 6 May 2019 (UTC) If my writing gets erased again, I'll write it again. Schnapper rock (talk) 07:03, 6 May 2019 (UTC)

I have to say the fact that someone removed JungKook's title if main vocalist from his page is ridiculous. It's a title that he earned. And NOT having it on his Wikipedia page is VERY misleading to people who don't know BTS very well. BTS has stated many times that JK is the main Vocalist. Ex. 1. Burn The Stage Episode 3. (First 2-3 minutes) RM states ' Jungkook is our main vocalist.'This title needs to be added back to his page. Jimin should be listed as lead vocalist, with Jin and V as vocalists. There can even be a sub section on the pages explaining the different titles and their meanings in kpop world. Not everyone understands. But taking JKs title of Main Vocalist away is equivalent to also removing RMs title of Leader if the group. It's ludicrous. No one in their right mind would do that. So let's stop this nonsense and fix this asap. Please. If worse comes to worse I can get all of followers on Twitter to start emailing BH to release a formal statement that jK is the main vocalist. Which we CAN make happen. But all that will finish she'd light on this stupid situation which we can solve now before way more people find out and turn this into a bigger mess than it has to be. KekeKookie (talk) 01:21, 23 May 2020 (UTC)

I would also like to point out that if it was a general consensus for this title to be removed then why do I still see it for other groups? To give some examples, there is Exo's Suho, Blackpink's Rose, GFriend's Yuju, and more. Please remove for them as well if you're going to do it to Jungkook. This is clearly anti behavior. There have been many instances where Jungkook himself and even the members have introduced and said him out to be the main vocalist. Some examples would be BTS Run episodes 28 and 89. There is also the BTS movie and when Jungkook introduced himself as main vocalist in the show Masked Singer. There was also that BTS Movie. I would like an explanation to this. YukaMay24 (talk) 16:36, 17 October 2020 (UTC)

Jungkook just said that he is the “Main Vocalist” on camera in the 2021 “You Quiz on the Block” interview. If you are going to list RM as the “Leader” (another K-Pop position), then it is only fair that you list Jungkook as the “Main Vocalist” since his position extremely essential as well. The Main Vocalist does the majority of vocal guides, harmonies, and ad libs and spends countless extra hours of hard work in the studio perfecting all of the songs before release. It is completely disrespectful to not give Jungkook credit for this position. Moniinicole (talk) 23:10, 27 March 2021 (UTC)

Jungkook is the MAIN VOCALIST

Jungkook just said that he is the MAIN VOCALIST of BTS on camera, again, in the “You Quiz on the Block” Interview in 2021. RM is listed on Wikipedia as the “Leader” (another K-Pop position), yet Jungkook is just listed as a “Vocalist”. That is extremely disrespectful! The “Main Vocalist” is one of the most important positions in the band, responsible for the majority of the vocal guides, harmonies, ad libs, and the one who spends countless extra hours in the studio perfecting all of the songs before release. Not giving him credit for this position is completely disrespectful! And at this point, it just looks embarrassing for Wikipedia when Jungkook and the other members keep saying how essential Jungkook’s role as the “Main Vocalist” has been for the band’s success. Taehyung just said this on camera recently. It just makes Wikipedia look like a source that cannot be trusted or taken seriously when you leave out critical information. At this point, everyone know Jungkook is the “Main Vocalist”. His words and the words of the members matter more than you trying to hide his position. Moniinicole (talk) 23:24, 27 March 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 2 April 2021

He is also a dancer. He is the lead dancer in BTS so I believe it also should be mentioned in his description. 94.14.138.72 (talk) 06:31, 2 April 2021 (UTC)

Please provide sourcing that he is the lead dancer. Thanks. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 11:26, 2 April 2021 (UTC)

Mention of Jungkook directing the "Life goes on" mv

In his credits there should be a mention of his directing the different music videos of Life goes on. He is credited as the director on Hybe youtube channel : BTS (방탄소년단) 'Life Goes On' Official MV Credits: Director: Jeon Jung Kook — Preceding unsigned comment added by Popexpert (talk • contribs) 00:40, 25 April 2021 (UTC)

My Time peak chart position is wrong.

The US World Billboard Peak position is wrong. It's written 5 where it should 2 as per the official Billboard website : My Time peaked at 2 on march 7th 2020. — Preceding unsigned comment added by ‎Popexpert (talk • contribs)

@Popexpert: That link points to the Digital Song Sales chart, not the World Digital Song Sales chart. But you were right, the peak was incorrect. Thank you! - Ïvana (talk) 01:36, 25 April 2021 (UTC)

His appearance on King of Mask singer

His appearance on the show is mentioned in the text, but missing from the table at the end of the article in the Television section. Also I think he appeared on 2 episodes (71-72) not 72. Well at least that's what the article on wikipedia says : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_King_of_Mask_Singer_episodes_(2016) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Popexpert (talk • contribs) 11:00, 25 April 2021 (UTC)

Stage name correctly written "Jung Kook", with a space in between

His stage name is correctly written "Jung Kook", with a space in between. You can see it on their website, in the credits of their albums, in the titles of the videos on their YouTube channel BANGTANTV even if you are searching with the term "Jungkook" and on their Facebook page. Christian 2003:CA:E74D:4F87:8961:A792:B16A:389C (talk) 08:14, 27 July 2021 (UTC)

Wikipedia does not use such stylizations MOS:TMRULES — Preceding unsigned comment added by Evaders99 (talk • contribs) 21:27, 27 July 2021 (UTC)

References

Change his dp..

It’s been a while. Please add a new one to reflect his current self. DeepaJK (talk) 23:23, 25 August 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 16 October 2021

The page has many errors but the most disturbing is that his name is incorrect it is jeon jeongguk, jungkook is a phonetic stage name. 122.60.194.123 (talk) 01:21, 16 October 2021 (UTC)

 Not done: Please refer to the numerous English-language sources cited in the article which refer to the subject as "Jungkook". We use the terms, and in this case the most common transliterated spelling of the commonly used name, used by our sources. General Ization ^Talk 01:26, 16 October 2021 (UTC)

Main vocalist

It has been brought to attention that even Jungkook himself, other members, and other TV s, have called him as the main vocalist in the year 2021 alone. However, there have been multiple arguments to why this cannot be included just because some members are jealous that their favorite members are not main vocalists? This is removing objectve data due to personal feelings and you are promoting this.

References 1. Burn the Stage 2. You Quiz on the Block 3. Masked Singer 4. Run BTS YukaMay24 (talk) 15:06, 26 October 2021 (UTC)

wikipedia does not put things like main dancer, sub vocal, etc. Ukiss2ne14lyfe (talk) 15:29, 26 October 2021 (UTC)

Please see Archive 1 {link in yellow box above), where you can see the numerous discussions of this leading to the consensus NOT to include these terms - Arjayay (talk) 15:41, 26 October 2021 (UTC)

This page contradicts your statement. Also, Jungkook is considered as a lead dancer. If you are going to include this dancer title to Jimin and Hoseok, please do so for Jungkook as well. Moreso that Rose has both titles of main vocalist and lead dancer on her page, same as Jungkook.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ros%C3%A9_(singer)

She made her debut as the main vocalist and lead dancer of the girl group Blackpink in August 2016 and made her solo debut with her single album R in March 2021. YukaMay24 (talk) 16:19, 29 October 2021 (UTC)

It does not say main or lead dancer on either of those pages. There is a section in the artistry part I know that covers they are known for their dancing, with articles proving it. That is not stating a position. Ukiss2ne14lyfe (talk) 17:02, 29 October 2021 (UTC)

Well that's a bit of a misleading statement, @Ukiss2ne14lyfe:, because the Rosé article did in fact list those positions until you removed them before replying here - after @YukaMay24:'s comment. Alex (talk) 17:07, 29 October 2021 (UTC)

@Alex I was talking about the BTS pages. It is not misleading at all. You can search for such statements he said were on there all you like on those pages. The other page that was mentioned that broke guidelines that part was removed. Ukiss2ne14lyfe (talk) 17:35, 29 October 2021 (UTC)

I was referring to the Rosé article which was linked in the comment above. Alex (talk) 17:38, 29 October 2021 (UTC)

It is unfair that you only consider positions when it comes to BTS pages. Even if you have removed the positions in the Rose Article, you say that it is not misleading because you were only talking about BTS pages. What happened to the consensus you were previously talking about? Also, in Rose's occupation, you have indicated Singer and dancer while in Jungkook's article, you have only indicated singer and songwriter. Even if you say that there is a section in the artistry part that covers this, I consider it unfair that for both of these artists whom are called lead dancers, the dancer occupation was only given to Rose. YukaMay24 (talk) 11:44, 30 October 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 9 November 2021

2+2=4....so smart (talk) 19:05, 9 November 2021 (UTC)In September 2015, Jungkook participated in the "One Dream, One Korea" campaign, taking part in a song collaboration alongside numerous Korean artists in memory of the Korean War. The song was released on September 24 and presented at the One K Concert in Seoul on October 15.[25]

In 2016, Jungkook was cast in the pilot episode of Flower Crew. He also appeared on Celebrity Bromance,[26][27] and competed in King of Mask Singer under the name "Fencing Man," appearing in episode 72.[28]

On August 24, 2018, the song "Euphoria", was released by the South Korean boy band, BTS, which was sung as a solo by Jungkook. He now continues to perform the song at many of their concerts and it is loved by their amazing supporters, also known as, "ARMY".

On November 6, 2018, Jungkook performed "We Don't Talk Anymore" with original singer Charlie Puth in a special collaboration stage during the MBC Plus X Genie Music Awards. The song was one he had previously covered twice, solo and with fellow BTS member Jimin.[29]

On June 4, 2020, Jungkook released the song "Still With You", for free on platforms such as SoundCloud as a part of BTS' yearly debut celebrations. Billboard described the song as having "tinkling synths and gently strummed guitars and brushed drums". Jungkook produced the piece himself.2+2=4....so smart (talk) 19:05, 9 November 2021 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 19:28, 9 November 2021 (UTC)

Jungkook is the main vocalist from bts

Remove the personal life statement 47.20.29.132 (talk) 17:35, 4 December 2021 (UTC)

 Not done per the last hundred times it was requested. Please review these talk page archives for previous discussions. OhNoitsJamie ^Talk 17:41, 4 December 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 8 December 2021

He is a dancer also. 210.89.63.41 (talk) 15:57, 8 December 2021 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 16:04, 8 December 2021 (UTC)

Update right informations.

We should also update that he is the main vocalist of the group. It would be fair enough if wiki update all the right position and achievements. 2405:201:3008:31E7:D08E:B115:65AD:8B9E (talk) 07:25, 19 December 2021 (UTC)

 Not done see the section above asking the same thing. "Main" isn’t mentioned per consensus. Alex (talk) 09:50, 19 December 2021 (UTC)

Why not to add his achievement his records.world record he held after his name

Why not to update his achievements his world records which he individually held in past years. 2405:201:3008:31E7:D08E:B115:65AD:8B9E (talk) 07:23, 19 December 2021 (UTC)

It would be helpful if you mentioned specific things so others know what you're talking about. Alex (talk) 09:51, 19 December 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 28 December 2021

In the section PERSONAL LIFE, I think the entire part before “Since 2018 he has lived in Hannam-dong, Seoul, South Korea with his bandmates.” is inconsequential and not needed, especially as it contains information that is normally leaked to media and is a breach of privacy. To you guys the decision. 10203991TWOTHREETWO (talk) 14:16, 28 December 2021 (UTC)

 Not done: Im not seeing that a general location would be a breech of individual privacy. Amortias (T)(C) 17:08, 30 December 2021 (UTC)

"Jungcock" listed at Redirects for discussion

An editor has identified a potential problem with the redirect Jungcock and has thus listed it for discussion. This discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 February 13#Jungcock until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion. Btspurplegalaxy 🗩 🖉 15:23, 13 February 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 14 January 2022

2601:5CC:C900:A780:C847:8D5E:D34F:82F (talk) 02:55, 14 January 2022 (UTC)

Jungkook is the main vocalist, lead dancer, sub-rapper, and center of BTS

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Cannolis (talk) 03:00, 14 January 2022 (UTC)

Alternative professional name

The name Jungkook uses professionally outside South Korea seems to vary across BTS’s content - in news pieces and on social media I think it’s almost always spelt the same as this article, but in a lot of their official releases, including MVs, YouTube content, album art and his new Spotify profile (https://open.spotify.com/artist/6HaGTQPmzraVmaVxvz6EUc?si=bn1BDmeNTwefHp2FU2moWw), it’s written as Jung Kook with a space between the characters. I don’t know of any Wikipedia-based reasons to make referencing it incorrect, so I would say that version’s used in enough official settings to be mentioned as an alternative name? Please correct me if not though… Wikichanger814 (talk) 20:43, 11 February 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 19 February 2022

I request to check the related article settings. For him most related likely is V or any song of him. Why it shows Park jimin. Closest possible related is Kim Taehyung. 39.50.71.124 (talk) 11:15, 19 February 2022 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 11:21, 19 February 2022 (UTC)

Related Article should include V

In related articles, Park Jimin is shown. Either there should be no member shown or the closest one should be mentioned who is Kim Taehyung. If V can't be mentioned then Park Jimin should also not be in related articles 39.50.71.124 (talk) 21:01, 19 February 2022 (UTC)

Related articles where? What are you talking about? Alex (talk) 22:14, 19 February 2022 (UTC)

I think IP is talking about the randomly generated related articles section on mobile, which editors have no control over. ɴᴋᴏɴ21 ❯❯❯ talk 22:30, 19 February 2022 (UTC)

Ah, that makes sense – I forgot about the mobile version! Alex (talk) 22:36, 19 February 2022 (UTC)

Solo Sales

Hi there! Do we have latest sales of JK's solos (Begin, My Time, even Stay Alive) in the US? Saw Euphoria with 500k updated. Thank you! 130.105.213.176 (talk) 01:33, 20 March 2022 (UTC)

Any info? Sevenbluelions (talk) 08:46, 29 March 2022 (UTC)

Once reliable sources have written about updated sales for any of those songs then they will be updated. Nothing can be done otherwise. -- Carlobunnie (talk) 10:05, 29 March 2022 (UTC)

Jungkook's wininng award

Jungkook won vlive award at 2018 or 2019 something,it should be mentioned in the list. Jungkook has won 2 awards not just one. Kindly edit it 2409:4089:1E83:5DBE:0:0:8D89:3D09 (talk) 17:26, 26 April 2022 (UTC)

 Not done - you need to provide an accurate reference - you don't even know which year it was - Arjayay (talk) 18:04, 26 April 2022 (UTC)

Jungkook house purch

He purchased a house worth 7.6 M not 4 billion please make the correction. 2409:4070:481D:6061:0:0:20CB:30AD (talk) 14:45, 27 April 2022 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. — Paper9oll (🔔 • 📝) 14:51, 27 April 2022 (UTC)

Name with a space: Jung Kook

BTS, BigHit and HYBE write his name with a space: Jung Kook 2003:CA:E70E:F0A7:968:C1C5:88CF:DBB2 (talk) 15:02, 9 May 2022 (UTC)

The official spelling of his name is spelled Jungkook not with the spacing. Btspurplegalaxy 🗩 🖉 15:30, 9 May 2022 (UTC)

References

Semi-protected edit request on 4 June 2022

5.127.199.135 (talk) 20:23, 4 June 2022 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Btspurplegalaxy 🗩 🖉 20:25, 4 June 2022 (UTC)

Real name

Real name is Jeon Jeongguk Archita Podder7 (talk) 14:36, 26 July 2022 (UTC)

Hi Archita Podder7 - Please cite reliable sources to support your claim - Arjayay (talk) 14:54, 26 July 2022 (UTC)

Jungkook having the perfect pitch

Jeon Jungkook has the perfect pitch along with Michael Jackson and many celebs Charlie puth who is also known for having perfect pitch said in an interview about Jungkook having the perfect pitch during the making of their hit collab "Left & Right" 27.147.207.210 (talk) 13:33, 29 July 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 30 July 2022

Please change: He is the youngest member and vocalist of the South Korean boy band BTS.

to 

He is the youngest member, main vocalist, lead dancer, sub rapper and center of the South Korean boy band BTS.

Please state his official position in the group as it is given to him as an acknowledgement to his skills and also as a responsibility. Please respect their official positions.

Sources:

main vocalist position: https://www.geo.tv/latest/342060-jungkook-details-his-struggles-as-btss-main-vocalist

http://news.abs-cbn.com/entertainment/10/29/21/bts-jungkook-releases-cover-of-harry-styles-falling

sub-rapper and lead dancer: https://armysalon.wordpress.com/2018/03/16/sbs-star-channel-bts-profile-translation/

center position: https://www.bu.edu/lernet/artemis/years/2017/projects/StudentWebsites/Michelle/pages/BTS.html

https://www.vox.com/culture/2018/6/13/17426350/bts-history-members-explained Cypherzero97 (talk) 18:02, 30 July 2022 (UTC)

 Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{edit semi-protected}} template. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 18:07, 30 July 2022 (UTC)

Removal of Jungkook's achievements

May I ask Wikipedia founders to please look into the issue of Jungkook removal from Wikipedia list of notable musicians with Absolute Pitch someone edited the list & removed his name? I trust Wikipedia will look into this. Again for the second time left and Right nominations at breaktudoAwards for International collaboration has been removed from his achievements. May I know how anyone can just remove his achievements from Wikipedia? I hope this issues will be addressed by Wikipedia. I trust Wikipedia and the veracity of your contents for the love of God. Thank you.. 130.105.234.134 (talk) 13:40, 5 October 2022 (UTC)

Most of the time you'll find your answers in the talk page or chronology of the affected pages. See Talk:List of people with absolute pitch; Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/BreakTudo Awards (2nd nomination) and Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_deletion#About_deleted_award_ceremony_articles. Chiya^ko92 14:11, 5 October 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 6 October 2022

{{Changes in Awards and Nominations: for Ju gkook|page}} Felocie88 (talk) 08:16, 6 October 2022 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 09:24, 6 October 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 6 October 2022 (2)

{{change Awards and Nominations : category for |Jungkook|}} Felocie88 (talk) 10:31, 6 October 2022 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. — Paper9oll (🔔 • 📝) 11:58, 6 October 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 27 October 2022

|- ! scope="row" | BreakTudo Awards | 2022 | Best International Collaboration | Left and right | style="background: #FFD; vertical-align: middle; text-align: center; " class="partial table-partial"|Pending | style="text-align:center;" | Ms Andrea Rivera (talk) 07:18, 27 October 2022 (UTC)

 Not done: As it was removed through this revision per rationale of Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/BreakTudo Awards (2nd nomination) and Wikipedia talk:Articles for deletion/Archive 76#About deleted award ceremony articles — Paper9oll (🔔 • 📝) 07:29, 27 October 2022 (UTC)

References

Semi-protected edit request on 24 November 2022

Request a change to correct the spelling of birth name or "real" name to Jeongguk 41.13.104.202 (talk) 18:35, 24 November 2022 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Cannolis (talk) 20:19, 24 November 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 26 November 2022

Change photo to an updated photo. 47.154.50.51 (talk) 18:16, 26 November 2022 (UTC)

Not done for now: please provide and tell which one in the article to replace. ~~lol1VNIO⁠🎌 (I made a mistake? talk to me) 18:25, 26 November 2022 (UTC)

Jungkook vs Jeongguk

Hello, I would like to request that you also add his REAL name Jeongguk in his description. His company decided for his stage name to be his name BUT spell it differently for international fans. Please add that his name is spelled differently and Jungkook is his stage name and mostly used 2601:100:8980:84F0:1532:4DC4:BE85:C6C3 (talk) 04:06, 11 December 2022 (UTC)

Jungkook

Why you removed Jungkook as main vocalist from BTS??? Can you explain please? 🤔 84.69.77.102 (talk) 01:30, 30 December 2022 (UTC)

We don't use the fan terminology such as main, lead, sub, or visual. We go by the roles as a vocalist, rapper, or dancer. This isn't a fan Wiki, it's an Encyclopedia for the public. Btspurplegalaxy 💬 🖊️ 04:45, 30 December 2022 (UTC)

It is not fan terminology, “Main Vocalist” is an actual official position recognized even on the official Spotify for Jungkook. It is also listed on the Korean Wikipedia page for Jungkook. Listing Jungkook as simply a “vocalist” is not accurate information. This makes his English Wikipedia page not as accurate as his Korean Wikipedia page. Moniinicole (talk) 21:01, 31 December 2022 (UTC)

Refer to Jungkook’s Korean Wikipedia page that lists him as the “Main Vocalist” of BTS. https://ko.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/정국_(가수) Moniinicole (talk) 21:06, 31 December 2022 (UTC)

Also, refer to Jungkook’s official Spotify page, Apple Music page, and imdb page which all list him as the “Main Vocalist” of BTS. It makes his English Wikipedia page seem outdated by not including this important information. https://open.spotify.com/artist/6HaGTQPmzraVmaVxvz6EUc

https://music.apple.com/us/artist/jung-kook/785052275

https://m.imdb.com/name/nm8506461/bio

Also, RM is listed as the “Leader” of BTS. Why? That is also a position. It is biased and not misleading to list an important position for one member but not for another.

Moniinicole (talk) 21:15, 31 December 2022 (UTC)

I meant it is misleading to not include that Jungkook is the “Main Vocalist” of BTS and it also minimizes his significant role in the group by just calling him a “vocalist” which is not true. If RM is listed as the “leader”, than Jungkook should be listed as the “main vocalist”, just like Spotify has included on their official profiles. These roles are extremely important for understanding their roles and responsibilities in the band. Moniinicole (talk) 21:18, 31 December 2022 (UTC)

@Moniinicole: I was going to direct you to old discussions in the talk page archive but I can see that you already ranted about this almost two years ago, so you're definitely aware of the reasons as to why we don't include fan terminology. We should probably add something like Elon Musk's FAQ to the talk page because this issue gets brought up all the time. - Ïvana (talk) 22:53, 31 December 2022 (UTC)

Post the source that says that official positions for BTS are “fan terminology”. If that is the case, why is “Leader” listed for RM? Explain this. Also, explain why Korean Wikipedia lists “Main Vocalist” and recognizes this as an official position but you don’t. Otherwise, it just seems as though biased people are running the English Wikipedia BTS pages. This is why nobody takes Wikipedia seriously and is why Wikipedia is never considered a reliable source by anyone. What an embarrassment. Moniinicole (talk) 09:39, 1 January 2023 (UTC)

Please tell your concern at WT:KO ArmyOnceBlinkMidzy (talk) 10:05, 5 January 2023 (UTC)

Left and Right nominations

"Left and Right" was nominated for the song of the year abroad at the Froggy's chosen of the year ceremony. Is it important enough to include the information in the awards and nominations table? Estyxxxx (talk) 18:44, 24 January 2023 (UTC)

Idk anything about this award ceremony so I can't really answer that question. -- Carlobunnie (talk) 22:33, 27 January 2023 (UTC)

I included in the previous message information about the ceremony on the Hebrew Wikipedia (it is of course written in Hebrew, so it is recommended to translate to understand what is written there). I am now adding a link to Jungkook's awards and nominations section in the Hebrew Wikipedia.

Jungkook awards and nominations

Thank you very much and sorry for the trouble. Estyxxxx (talk) 17:12, 29 January 2023 (UTC)

The Hebrew wiki page doesn't provide any information regarding the notability of the award. Notability has to be proved first before an award can be considered for inclusion. -- Carlobunnie (talk) 18:12, 29 January 2023 (UTC)

It seems to me that this award is important on a national scale, but I have no information on the level of its global importance.

Thanks for the quick reply Estyxxxx (talk) 19:57, 29 January 2023 (UTC)

Notability doesn't mean global importance necessarily. If it's a notable award in its country of origin as you say then there should be significant coverage of it by local, reliable news/entertainment sources. You'd need to locate and share those sources here, which we'd then ask editors familiar with Hebrew sources to verify. If those sources prove the notability of the award/awarding body then it can be added to the table. -- Carlobunnie (talk) 20:12, 29 January 2023 (UTC)

I understand,

Unfortunately I don't currently have time to focus on this, I prefer to focus on other contributions to the wiki that are more important. I'll try to see if someone else is available to take care of it.

Thank you very much for your help. Estyxxxx (talk) 21:22, 29 January 2023 (UTC)

Just keep in mind that since you were the one who asked about it potentially being added to the table, and the one who said it's a notable award, the WP:BURDEN is on you to provide proof of notability first, regardless of which other editor you go to about it. I just happened to be the one who responded here. If you do find someone willing to add it without verifying, just know that the addition will very likely be reverted. And you're welcome. -- Carlobunnie (talk) 01:00, 30 January 2023 (UTC)

Sorry, I didn't explain myself clearly enough. Of course I'm not going to add or ask someone to add without proof. I just meant to continue what I edit in the original Wikipedia where I work (Hebrew Wikipedia).

Thank you very much for the clarification. Estyxxxx (talk) 17:59, 30 January 2023 (UTC)

No problem. Ofc, if in future you have the time, and are able to confirm its notability, you can always come back and add the award or get someone to do it for you. -- Carlobunnie (talk) 18:05, 30 January 2023 (UTC)

How does Jungkook perform Boy With Luv in 2018???

Boy with Luv (작은 것들을 위한 시) was released in 2019, yet part of the article says Jungkook performing Boy with Luv 2018. Jishiboka1 (talk) 13:29, 27 February 2023 (UTC)

@Jishiboka1: You're right, he was performing Boy in Luv, not Boy with Luv. It has been fixed. Thanks! - Ïvana (talk) 13:50, 27 February 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 6 May 2023

Please change Jungkook's profile picture. It doesnt look good. Many anti-fans use this picture to drag him. Ayhhc (talk) 19:07, 6 May 2023 (UTC)

 Not done: Callmemirela 🍁 19:48, 6 May 2023 (UTC)

Skit from Be in Writing/prod credits

It isn't presently included, but was this because it's not actually a song, or was there no particular reason why? -- Carlobunnie (talk) 20:10, 14 May 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 21 June 2023

103.101.54.19 (talk) 15:25, 21 June 2023 (UTC)

Jungkook is the main vocalist

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Actualcpscm (talk) 16:30, 21 June 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 25 June 2023

Misspelling of Jungkook's name "In June 2021, a lawmaker of the Justice Party used photos of Jungook". Please correct this mistake. Mediverse (talk) 06:03, 25 June 2023 (UTC)

 Done — Paper9oll (🔔 • 📝) 06:05, 25 June 2023 (UTC)

Religious affiliation

Recently Jungkook said during a livestream that his father is Christian and his mother is Buddhist, but he has no particular religious affiliation. Would this be worth mentioning in his Personal life section? I have seen things of a similar nature mentioned on various BLPs, but I'd like to know how others editors who maintain this page feel about its inclusion. -- Carlobunnie (talk) 03:22, 7 August 2023 (UTC)

It wouldn't hurt to add. Taemin from Shinee religion is mentioned on his article. Btspurplegalaxy 💬 🖊️ 03:49, 7 August 2023 (UTC)

Seconded. I checked on Google and couldn't find any reliable source mentioning it (mostly places like Koreaboo or IBTimes). Only found one in Naver (here). - Ïvana (talk) 13:15, 7 August 2023 (UTC)

That's the same source I was going to use actually. -- Carlobunnie (talk) 15:23, 7 August 2023 (UTC)

I added it. -- Carlobunnie (talk) 20:33, 7 August 2023 (UTC)

Main Picture

Please update Jungkook’s main picture. This picture is old and outdated. Marriedinmtairy97 (talk) 18:58, 1 September 2023 (UTC)

The 2022 isn't outdated. Adding an image from 2018 would be outdated. Btspurplegalaxy 💬 🖊️ 19:48, 1 September 2023 (UTC)

Ok thanks for letting me know and I apologise for the muck up! What about this other pic from BBC Radio 1? It’s very nice. Thanks. Marriedinmtairy97 (talk) 21:03, 1 September 2023 (UTC)

It would need to have a CCL. Btspurplegalaxy 💬 🖊️ 21:55, 1 September 2023 (UTC)

What is a CCL Marriedinmtairy97 (talk) 19:05, 26 September 2023 (UTC)

A Creative Commons license. -- Carlobunnie (talk) 19:25, 26 September 2023 (UTC)

Requested move 4 October 2023

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: not moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) — MaterialWorks 18:31, 11 October 2023 (UTC)

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Jungkook → Jung Kook – WP:COMNAME. 134.219.227.23 (talk) 17:32, 4 October 2023 (UTC)

• Oppose the common spelling of his name is highly used more than Jung Kook. Btspurplegalaxy 💬 🖊️ 19:32, 4 October 2023 (UTC)
• Oppose per WP:COMMONNAME you need to prove that this alternate spelling is the most commonly used, as determined by its prevalence in a significant majority of independent, reliable English-language sources. Based on the vast majority of the sources used in this article, that doesn't seem to be the case. - Ïvana (talk) 19:44, 4 October 2023 (UTC)

Oppose This is anything but the common name. Killuminator (talk) 17:19, 5 October 2023 (UTC)

• Oppose not the common name. Lightoil (talk) 13:54, 6 October 2023 (UTC)
• Light support It’s “Jung Kook” on all streaming services and several sources use the space, such as https://www.officialcharts.com/chart-news/bts-jung-kook-3d-jack-harlow-top-5-record/ https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/bts-jung-kook-announces-debut-album-golden-1234837959/ https://www.billboard.com/video/jennies-new-solo-track-jung-kooks-solo-album-inside-latin-music-week-day-2/ https://www.billboard.com/pro/jung-kook-3d-jack-harlow-hot-100/ https://m.timesofindia.com/entertainment/k-pop/music/news/bts-star-jung-kook-opens-up-on-his-dating-life-says-my-girlfriend-is-/articleshow/104164915.cms and the charts use the space as well https://www.billboard.com/artist/jung-kook/chart-history/arg/ https://www.officialcharts.com/charts/singles-chart/20230721/7501/ Of course some sources also lack the space as well but I’d argue that enough use the space that, when combined with the fact that it’s got the space on streaming, I’d say it’s the common name. CAMERAwMUSTACHE (talk) 20:31, 6 October 2023 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Awards section

Jungkook has won -Breaktudo Internacional Collaboration with Left and Right by Charlie Puth in 2022 https://www.breaktudoawards.com/breaktudo-awards-2022-here-are-the-winners-bts-blackpink-jungkook-kenia-os-wizkid-tancredi-and-many-more/ -Breaktudo International Artist on The Rise 2023 -Breaktudo International Music Video 2023 with Seven by jungkook https://www.breaktudo.com/breaktudo-awards-2023-veja-a-lista-de-vencedores-completa/ Elioraassad (talk) 13:21, 17 November 2023 (UTC)

 Not done: Non-notable award ceremony per Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Korea/Archive 22#Removal of non-notable BreakTudo Awards. — Paper9oll (🔔 • 📝) 13:44, 17 November 2023 (UTC)

noted! Elioraassad (talk) 15:18, 17 November 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 31 December 2023

Jeon Jung-kook (Korean: 전정국; RR: Jeon Jeongguk; born September 1, 1997), also known mononymously as Jungkook (stylized as Jung Kook), is a South Korean singer and a member of the South Korean boy band BTS. He has performed three solo songs as part of BTS' discography— "Begin" in 2016, "Euphoria" in 2018, and "My Time" in 2020—all of which charted on South Korea's Gaon Digital Chart. He also recorded the soundtrack song "Stay Alive" for the BTS-based webtoon 7Fates: Chakho. Ceesee134340 (talk) 06:46, 31 December 2023 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. — 🎄☃️ Paper9oll ☃️🎄 (🔔 • 📝) 07:24, 31 December 2023 (UTC)

Clan

I'm seeing it corroborated on a bunch of mixed quality sources (including namuwiki and the Korean Wikipedia, unsourced) that he's from the Damyang Jeon clan, can anyone find a reliable source to back this up? If you can put in the article body that'd be great too. I did this for a few other members of BTS already.

If you're not aware of the Korean clan system, this is an interesting way to understand celebrities, kinda like blood type toobigtokale (talk) 12:48, 23 January 2024 (UTC)

Same as J-Hope, I don't think he ever mentioned. Chiya^ko92 16:43, 23 January 2024 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 15 March 2024

Add Japan Gold Disc Awards 2024 in the Awards & Nominations section.

Jungkook has won that award for SONG OF THE YEAR BY DOWNLOAD (ASIA)

The reference article: https://www.golddisc.jp/award/38/Prize_2.html Heyitsig (talk) 17:29, 15 March 2024 (UTC)

 Done 98𝚃𝙸𝙶𝙴𝚁𝙸𝚄𝚂 19:37, 15 March 2024 (UTC)

Awards & Nominations

Please add in Awards & Nominations section that Jungkook - Seven (feat. Latto) was shortlisted for 'CIPLO MUSIC AWARDS 2024' for Music Videos Category.

Reference link for the same: https://clios.com/music/winner/film-video/jungkook/seven-feat-latto-509048 Heyitsig (talk) 17:48, 15 March 2024 (UTC)

 Done 98𝚃𝙸𝙶𝙴𝚁𝙸𝚄𝚂 19:38, 15 March 2024 (UTC)

Awards & Nominations

Please add Jungkook won 'BEST FANS' for 2024 Global Awards.

The link to the awards wikipedia page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_Global_Awards

The link to the winners information: https://global.com/global-news/the-global-awards-crowns-2024-winners/ Heyitsig (talk) 17:21, 23 March 2024 (UTC)

Request archived and closed. '''[[User:CanonNi]]''' (talk|contribs) 05:40, 8 April 2024 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 31 March 2024 (2)

Pls change NOTE I from "Still with You" did not enter the NZ Top 40 Singles Chart, but peaked at number 27 on the NZ Hot Singles Chart.[131] to

"My You" did not enter the NZ Top 40 Singles Chart, but peaked at number 27 on the NZ Hot Singles Chart.[131]

It's a mistake. My You is the correct song in this note. (I) Thank you. JKHungary (talk) 20:56, 31 March 2024 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. '''[[User:CanonNi]]''' (talk|contribs) 15:00, 7 April 2024 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 31 March 2024

Pls insert column for Hungary (HUN) for Discography/Studio Albums/GOLDEN. It reached #1 on Official Hungarian Physical Album chart. Ref: https://slagerlistak.hu/album-top-40-slagerlista-fizikai-hanghordozok/2023/49, or https://hu.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Mahasz_Top_40_albumlist%C3%A1j%C3%A1nak_els%C5%91_helyezettjei_2020%E2%80%932029_k%C3%B6z%C3%B6tt Thank you. JKHungary (talk) 20:12, 31 March 2024 (UTC)

Already in the Golden album article. 98𝚃𝙸𝙶𝙴𝚁𝙸𝚄𝚂 19:05, 7 April 2024 (UTC)