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02:38, 1 September 2024 review of submission by Xinwang822

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Dear reviewer,

Please specify which reference does not meet the requirements. Do you give examples of references that meet the requirements? I will modify it as required, thank you! Xinwang822 (talk) 02:38, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Xinwang822: this draft wasn't declined for inadequate referencing, but rather for inadequate evidence of notability. You need to provide sources proving that the subject satisfies either of the WP:GNG or WP:NACADEMIC guidelines. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 06:06, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

07:02, 1 September 2024 review of submission by Artaxerex

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please help me to improve Alishah Novin has been helping youth to become computer savey, and NTC has awarded him for his efforts. There has been many videos of his work. I think NTC should be a reliable source, despite the fact that Novin is now moved to Seatelle. Please help me to improve the article. Artaxerex (talk) 07:02, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Artaxerex I fixed your post to provide a link to your draft as intended, so we know what you are referencing. This isn't the place to request co-editors. NTC may be a reliable source for its own awards, but it is not an independent source and as such does not establish that they meet the definition of a notable person. Any article about this person must summarize what independent reliable sources with significant coverage choose on their own to say about them. Please see Your First Article. 331dot (talk) 07:09, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I appologize for not understanding that NTC is not independent source. I used Ai to generate the article. I thought independent implies the source should not be related to Alishah Novin. Artaxerex (talk) 07:19, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Artaxerex It's not a good idea to be using AI to generate an article, that presents several issues, see WP:LLM. If you're doing that because English is not your primary language, you may feel more comfortable editing the Wikipedia of your primary language. There is nothing special about the English Wikipedia, it isn't better than others.
Awards do not contribute to notability unless the award itself merits an article(such as Nobel Peace Prize or Academy Award or Filmfare Award) but even then there needs to be more than just documentation of the award, there needs to be independent reliable sources that discuss it. 331dot (talk) 07:32, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

07:05, 1 September 2024 review of submission by Rockywriter88

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Dear Reviewer,
In response to the previous feedback, I have made significant updates to the draft, particularly to enhance the notability of Ruben van Schalm's work. Below are the key changes:
  1. Museum Collections: I have provided detailed references showing that Ruben van Schalm's artwork, not just his book Paradise, is included in the permanent collections of notable museums. For example, his work is now part of the collection at The MA-g The Museum of Avant Garde, Switzerland, CH [1], which is a recognized institution in the art world. This inclusion contributes directly to establishing his notability.
  2. Secondary Sources: I have added secondary sources, including interviews and critical analyses, to provide independent coverage of his work. These sources are attached as PDFs, and have also been cited within the draft to support various claims about his career and impact in the field of photography. [2] - [3] - [4]
  3. Inline Citations: All claims related to his museum collections, exhibitions, and other notable achievements have been backed by inline citations, allowing for easy verification of the information provided.
  4. Addressing Concerns: I have taken care to address the concerns raised in previous reviews, particularly regarding the use of primary sources and the importance of showcasing his artwork's inclusion in notable institutions.
Note: Additionally, I have included Authority Control databases in the draft to further enhance its credibility and verification. These databases provide standardized information and external validation of Ruben van Schalm's identity and works, contributing to the draft's overall reliability and notability.
I hope these updates meet the necessary notability and sourcing guidelines for the draft to be accepted. I would appreciate any further feedback or guidance you may have.
Thank you for your time and consideration.
Best regards,
Rockywriter88 Rockywriter88 (talk) 07:05, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
If you feel you have fundamentally changed the draft to address the concerns of reviewers, the first step is to appeal to the reviewer that rejected the draft. 331dot (talk) 07:10, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
thank you @331dot I see that was @M4V3R1CK32
I will edit the the message and add the appeal to the reviewer that rejected the draft 9 months ago. Rockywriter88 (talk) 11:06, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Dear @M4V3R1CK32 I have responded above my appeal for review as I have made significant updates to the draft, I hope those updates meet the necessary notability and sourcing @M4V3R1CK32. I would appreciate any further feedback or guidance you may have. Thank you for your time and consideration. Rockywriter88 (talk) 11:08, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I'll try to take a look again by the end of the week. Cheers M4V3R1CK32 (talk) 12:22, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
A response has been posted on the draft Talk page. M4V3R1CK32 (talk) 02:25, 5 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

09:51, 1 September 2024 review of submission by DOKTOR RICEBOWL

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My submission on an article of a living person has been decline because the submission does not use adequate reliable sources. This submission's references "does not show the subject qualifies a Wikipedia article" I would like to request help to improve the article to get this article approved. DOKTOR RICEBOWL (talk) 09:51, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@DOKTOR RICEBOWL: you need to support the information with reliable sources throughout, and at least a few (3+) of those sources must establish notability per WP:GNG. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 10:20, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

10:48, 1 September 2024 review of submission by 24.250.192.190

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This is a Cedar Key personality who has legitimate press articles from Miami to NYC. Would anyone be kind enough to help with this submission? I feel the references are more than adequate and surpass in quality and quantity several similar accepted entries for notable celebrities. Michael has been featured all over the world for his reporting during Cedar Key extreme weather events, he's a published author, his many plays are performed regionally in Florida and he's been twice off-Broadway. As a Cedar Key celebrity coined as, "The Clambassador", he's represented aquaculture throughout Florida. Although his celebrity is deeply integrated in the small town of Cedar Key, it is his widespread media attention which makes him notable in my estimation. I'm not a professional Wiki-editor, but I've managed to get two other notable people represented in Wikipedia with far fewer references, so I'm at a loss as to why this is repeatedly and so quickly rejected. Maybe the standards have changed over the years, but I believe Mr. Bobbitt is notable and would appreciate any help in getting this article approved and listed in Wikipedia. Thank you kindly. 24.250.192.190 (talk) 10:48, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You resubmitted it, the reviewer will leave feedback if not accepted. 331dot (talk) 10:55, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, the standard has changed somewhat over the years, and we have thousands and thousands of articles which would not be accepted today in their current form. Some of these could be brought up to standard by adding better sources, and trimming out text which is either not neutral or not supported by the sources; many of them will be deleted for lack of notability when somebody gets round to it.
Apart from possibly the rather vague "widespread media attention", nothing you have said above is relevant to whether he meets Wikipedia's criteria for notability - which are, for the most part, about whether people totally unconnected with him, and not fed information on his behalf, have chosen to write in some depth about him and been published in reliable places.
I've only got down as far as your citation no 7, but so far I haven't seen a single source which is independent of Bobbitt. This does not bode well, as none of these contributes in any way to establishing that he is WikiNotable.
I recommend you examine each of your sources critically against the criteria in WP:42. If a source does not appear reliable, get rid of it, and any information that comes solely from it. (For example, I am dubious about Gainesville Downtown: lack of a byline, no mention of an editorial policy, and - to be frank - hosting on Wordpress, all suggest a well-meaning but amateur endeavour).
Any that do not mention him, or only mention him in passing: get rid of them. They add nothing to the article.
If a source is not independent (ie it is written or published by Bobbitt or his associates, or based on an interview or press release, take it out, but keep hold of it: you may be able to use a few of these later, once you've established notability, as primary sources. It is unlikely that a citation to anything written by him will be of use. ColinFine (talk) 19:51, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

19:12, 1 September 2024 review of submission by Officialzaminaliqais

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I want to add a picture of the subject Officialzaminaliqais (talk) 19:12, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Pictures are not relevant to the draft process, which only considers the text and sources. You can add images later. As you seem to represent the person you are writing about, you must disclose that, see WP:COI and WP:PAID. 331dot (talk) 19:42, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

20:33, 1 September 2024 review of submission by Wp.ramesh wiki

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Hi anyone can tell me I have write the article named Ramesh Auti, what is that publishing problem. Wp.ramesh wiki (talk) 20:33, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The reviewers have detailed the problems at the top of the draft. 331dot (talk) 20:48, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

23:36, 1 September 2024 review of submission by CyantubeD

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confused

why did i just have a unexcepted article CyantubeD (talk) 23:36, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia is not a place for you to tell your thoughts on a topic. That's what social media is for. Please see the new user tutorial to learn more about what we do here. 331dot (talk) 00:04, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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