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06:55, 29 August 2024 review of submission by Gulshan99

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Hi Team,

My name is Gulshan Pandey. I am working on an article about an Indian politician named Tarun Chugh. Unfortunately, it has been deleted or moved to draft several times, and I am unsure what mistakes I am making. Previously, I created the page for "Sonawari Assembly constituency," which was published on the first attempt, but this time I am having difficulty getting the article published. I have included many prominent media links as references. Could you please suggest what I should do to ensure the article meets the necessary standards?

Thank you for your assistance.

Best regards, Gulshan Pandey

Gulshan99 (talk) 06:55, 29 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  Courtesy link: Draft:Tarun chugh
@Gulshan99: you created this article, it was moved to drafts, where you submitted it for review and it was declined. Unless you have other versions or earlier attempts at this, that seems to be all there is, so I'm not sure that qualifies as "several times".
I also note that you've resubmitted the draft after it was declined without making any improvements to it whatsoever. Please do not do that, it is a surefire way to get your draft rejected. The idea is that when a draft is declined, the reason(s) for the decline are outlined in the decline notice, and your job is to address those reasons before resubmitting. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 07:15, 29 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
"Prominent media links" is not what we're looking for. We need to see significant coverage of this person, in multiple secondary sources that are both reliable and independent. Note that this excludes passing mentions, routine election coverage and similar, interviews, anything where the subject himself is commenting on other matters, etc. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 07:19, 29 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Within the summary for one of your edits to this, you write: "I appreciate your concern regarding the possible Conflict of Interest." Is there a conflict of interest? -- Hoary (talk) 09:21, 29 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

07:07, 29 August 2024 review of submission by Shom.analytics

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Hi can I seek advice on this? Because I have edited and water down everything to be neutral and just describing what the company does. Shom.analytics (talk) 07:07, 29 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Shom.analytics: that's as may be, but you haven't produced any evidence of notability, and therefore the draft has now been rejected and will not be considered further. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 07:10, 29 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
We don't want just a description of what the company does. 331dot (talk) 08:55, 29 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Shom.analytics You are a self declared paid editor. Please use your pay to fund your time to learn about policies here by studying them. Please start with WP:N, WP:V, and WP:NOT. There is no reason for the majority of amateur editors to spend their time helping you to get paid. 🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦 09:17, 29 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

14:34, 29 August 2024 review of submission by Jaykay9090

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I am requesting assistance because my article submission on Álvaro Martínez Bueno was not accepted, despite my efforts to adhere to Wikipedia's guidelines. The reviewer mentioned issues with the reliability of sources, the formal tone, and a potential conflict of interest (COI). I have carefully selected sources, ensured a neutral and formal tone, and I have no personal connection to the artist. However, I am struggling to identify where I might have gone wrong. I would greatly appreciate guidance on how to improve my article to meet Wikipedia’s standards, particularly in addressing the concerns raised by the reviewer. Jaykay9090 (talk) 14:34, 29 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The style section is completely unsourced. Every substantive fact about a living person must be sourced, per WP:BLP. 331dot (talk) 15:09, 29 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
On a quick look, few if any of your sources meet the triple criteria of being reliably published, wholly independent of Bueno, and containing significant coverage of Bueno (not just of particular workds). See WP:42 for more detail.
A Wikipedia article must be mostly based on such sources: without several such, no article is possible, because no article can establish that he meets the criteria for notability. ColinFine (talk) 16:02, 29 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

15:58, 29 August 2024 review of submission by 152.2.251.129

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My article keeps getting declined. What am I doing wrong? I have included inline references, both internal and external to wikipedia. What is the magic ticket? Thanks 152.2.251.129 (talk) 15:58, 29 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I should have included the reason why it was declined. It said "This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject (see the guidelines on the notability of music-related topics). Before any resubmission, additional references meeting these criteria should be added (see technical help and learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue). If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia." 152.2.251.129 (talk) 16:03, 29 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
As this message describes, your sources do not demonstrate notability. See WP:BIO.
Please log in when posting. You seem to have a connection with this person as you took a very professional looking image of her and she posed for you. You must disclose this connection, see WP:COI and WP:PAID. 331dot (talk) 16:37, 29 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The "magic ticket" is finding sources that are not just reliably published, but are wholly independent of the subject, and contain significant coverage of the subject specifically: see WP:42. Citing an article which is mostly an interview is of very limited use: citing the same article four times in different publications sends the message "I'm so desperate to find something to cite that I'll cite the same thing four times and hope people don't notice" which in turn suggests that there are probably simply not enough sources to establish that Eish meets Wikipedia's criteria for notability. ColinFine (talk) 16:41, 29 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

19:56, 29 August 2024 review of submission by Dupontgeorgea

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I see people on Wikipedia with their biography, why is this biography not allowed but others are? What distinguishes ones that are accepted and those that are not? Dupontgeorgea (talk) 19:56, 29 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Your draft is completely unsourced. People do not "have biographies" here, Wikipedia has articles about people that meet our criteria. Wikipedia is not a place for people to tell about themselves. Please see the autobiography policy. Wikipedia articles summarize what independent reliable sources choose on their own to say about them topic. While not impossible, that is usually very difficult for people to do about themselves. 331dot (talk) 20:14, 29 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Dupontgeorgea This text would be next to impossible to turn into a draft article. It would require a complete rewrite for tone, and full referencing. 🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦 20:18, 29 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Left 'm my usual deletion notice-- highly informative and well thought out. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 20:58, 29 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]