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02:25, 12 August 2024 review of submission by 197.148.73.149

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I'm requesting assistance for someone to help me create and submit the article 197.148.73.149 (talk) 02:25, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

What specific thing about the draft do you need assistance for? '''[[User:CanonNi]]''' (talk • contribs) 05:10, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

05:08, 12 August 2024 review of submission by Neginghaderii

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Hi everyone, I’m working on a draft article about Koorosh Ghorbani, an Iranian trial motorcyclist, and I’m having some trouble with sourcing. He is well-known in Iran and has been extensively covered in Persian media, which are considered reliable sources in his home country. These sources were sufficient for his Persian Wikipedia page, but I’m unsure how to properly reference them on the English Wikipedia. I know Koorosh Ghorbani personally and have access to official documents and translated certificates of his championships. He has participated in international races, including two in Mexico and two in Italy, and I might be able to find links to these events. However, most of the detailed coverage of his career is in Persian. Can anyone advise on how to use Persian sources on English Wikipedia? Additionally, is there a way to upload and use translated documents as sources? We’re aiming to introduce him to an international audience, and having an English Wikipedia page is crucial for this purpose. Thank you in advance for any guidance! 

Neginghaderii (talk) 05:08, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hi @Neginghaderii: as you're writing about someone you know in real life, you have a conflict of interest (COI) which needs to be disclosed. I've posted a message on your talk page with instructions.
Please also note that you are not allowed to use Wikipedia for any sort of promotion, which your message suggests you may be intending.
As to your questions, sources don't need to be in English, Persian and other non-English sources are perfectly okay, as long as they otherwise meet the requirements for reliability etc.
Without seeing the sources you plan to use, I cannot comment on whether they would be acceptable, let alone sufficient for establishing notability, but just to say that what is acceptable in the Persian-language Wikipedia may not be acceptable here, and vice versa, as each language version is a completely separate project with their policies and requirements.
There should be no need to upload any documents for referencing purposes, and uploading anything of personal nature, or anything covered by copyright or other proprietary rights, is not advisable, so please don't do that. In any case, sources must be published to be acceptable; private documents and correspondence or similar would not be useful.
HTH, -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 07:25, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, I’m a photographer specializing in sporting events, and through my work, I’ve gotten to know many Iranian and world champions personally. I’ve even interviewed world champions. My most recent project involved covering the World Champion Trial GP in Belgium. This experience gives me a unique perspective, allowing me to write accurate and well-informed articles about athletes like Koorosh Ghorbani.
Thank you for the detailed explanation. I understand the importance of sourcing and will remove any parts of the article that are not supported by reliable sources. I would greatly appreciate it if you could take a look at the draft again. Instead of rejecting it, could you please help modify or suggest changes that would make it suitable for publication? Your guidance would be invaluable in ensuring that the article meets Wikipedia's standards.
Thank you in advance for your support. Neginghaderii (talk) 13:02, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
As you have been told elsewhere, your "unique perspective" is if anything a hindrance to writing an acceptable Wikipedia article. Almost nothing from the writer is relevant to a Wikipedia article they write: not their knowledge, not their beliefs, not their preferences, not their perspective. Their background understanding of the subject or the context may sometimes be of value.
The writer's job is to write a clear, neutral summary of what all the significant independent reliable sources say about the subject, nothing more. Note that sometimes this may include summarising statements that the writer profoundly disagrees with. ColinFine (talk) 18:28, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, Yes, sure, I will remove the parts that need to be changed. Could you also suggest which other parts should be removed or adjusted to ensure the article meets the necessary standards and is accepted? Your guidance would be very helpful.
Thank you! 92.54.250.108 (talk) 06:32, 13 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I apologize for asking the same question in several places. I thought there were different communities, and I wanted to hear various perspectives. 92.54.250.108 (talk) 06:40, 13 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

08:01, 12 August 2024 review of submission by Tsurielsdomi

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Olá, Já falei aqui recentemente sobre o meu artigo sobre TSURIEL SDOMI (Eu NÃO sou Tsuriel Sdomi, ele é meu professor e que permitiu eu escrevesse sobre ele e usar as imagens). O artigo foi recusado, porém, eu li o manual de iniciantes e fiz tudo, acredito eu, coloquei referencias, livros e mesmo assim foi recusado. Acredito que não estou sabendo fazer isso, porque no meu ponto de vista está correto, com referência, linguagem apropriada e neutra. Alguém poderia me ajudar dizendo que seria necessário para eu ser aceito? 

Tsurielsdomi (talk) 08:01, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Tsurielsdomi: this is the English-language Wikipedia, please ask your question in English. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 08:05, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@DoubleGrazing what @Tsurielsdomi said, albeit in the Brazil variant of Portuguese was:
Hello, I have recently written about my article about TSURIEL SDOMI (I am NOT Tsuriel Sdomi, he is my teacher and he allowed me to write about him and use the images). The article was rejected, however, I read the beginners' manual and did everything, I believe, I included references, books and it was still rejected. I believe I am not knowing how to do this, because in my point of view it is correct, with references, appropriate and neutral language. Could someone help me by telling me what would be necessary for me to be accepted?
The draft is currently in User:Tsurielsdomi/sandbox illustrated with a welter of pictures and imperfect referencing, and written in English. I hope that helps? 🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦 12:46, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hi,
I apologize for the confusion. I assumed the text would be automatically translated into English.
I asked Mr. Tsuriel Sdomi to draft the email as Wikipedia suggested, in order to grant me the rights to the images. However, I now realize that I need to change the username first, and I'm unable to do that myself since only a verified user can make such changes. Could you assist me with this?
When I created the account, I mistakenly used Mr. Sdomi’s name as the username. I would like to change it to "JoaoDavid," which is my name. Is this possible?
Thank you in advance for your help.
Best regards,
Joao David Silva Tsurielsdomi (talk) 17:45, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hello, Joao. You can ask to change your username at WP:CHU/
Images will not affect in any way whether your draft is accepted or not, so I advise you to stop paying any attention to images until you have got the draft reviewed and accepted.
Your job as a writer of an article (a very challenging task, which like many new editors you have taken on before spending time learning the basics about editing Wikipedia) is to find reliable independent sources about Sdomi (I recommend evaluating every source against the triple criteria in WP:42), and then forget everything that you personally know about him and write a summary of what those sources say.
Wikipedia is not interested in what you know, or what he says (or what any of his associates say): it is only interested in what people who have no connection to him have published about him. ColinFine (talk) 18:34, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you ColinFine, I have asked for the change.
I wanted to write about him because he is someone very significant in the city, I am not so close to him, I knew him before start being is art student and I think he is someone who desire to be known worldwide.
About his private life and work and Studies I asked him, but the rest is all from trustable sources that I found online, and I put as sources, and it was not accepted.
But yes, I will have a look at WP:42 as you mentioned.
Thank you very much for your time and attention
Joao Silva Tsurielsdomi (talk) 19:28, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The only thing that there is any point in asking the subject about is where you can find independent sources which are about him. Nothing he says should go in the article unless it is backed up by a reliable published sources - and unless it is uncontroversial factual data like places and dates, only from an independent sources.
Neither his desire to be known worldwide, nor your desire for him to be known worldwide, is of any relevance to Wikipedia, and if you have those desires in your mind then you are engaged in promotion. ColinFine (talk) 21:51, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

08:03, 12 August 2024 review of submission by Songha Mao

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He is really person in cambodia society know him as Tiger Reth. Songha Mao (talk) 08:03, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Songha Mao: you don't ask a question, but this draft has been rejected and will therefore not be considered further. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 08:06, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

13:38, 12 August 2024 review of submission by Neginghaderii

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Hi everyone, I’m working on a draft article about Koorosh Ghorbani, an Iranian trial motorcyclist, and I’m having some trouble with sourcing. He is well-known in Iran and has been extensively covered in Persian media, which are considered reliable sources in his home country. These sources were sufficient for his Persian Wikipedia page, but I’m unsure how to properly reference them on the English Wikipedia. Can anyone advise on how to use Persian sources on English Wikipedia? Additionally, is there a way to upload and use translated documents as sources? We’re aiming to introduce him to an international audience, and having an English Wikipedia page is crucial for this purpose. Thank you in advance for any guidance! 

 Draft:Koorosh Ghorbani Neginghaderii (talk) 13:38, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Neginghaderii: you already asked this question and it has been answered. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 13:55, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
In fact, you have asked this question at least five times, in three different forums, and you have been answered at least twice. Stop itPlease stop. ColinFine (talk) 18:35, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

14:23, 12 August 2024 review of submission by Prince kumar 2.0

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can i try this draft creating again Prince kumar 2.0 (talk) 14:23, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Prince kumar 2.0 You may start a new draft. The old one has been rejected. 🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦 14:32, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanku Prince kumar 2.0 (talk) 14:35, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
(Blocked as a sock) -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 05:01, 13 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

14:57, 12 August 2024 review of submission by Liyafromspace

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Hey, Elad Moshe is active musician and online personality, the refrences are same columns as for submitted page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Swissa. Dima XR is active presentor of Egged, biggest israeli transportation company (https://www.egged.co.il/HomePage.aspx) and has 20.6k monthly listeners on Spotify, which is significant while taking into consideration secular population in Israel is around 4mln. Liyafromspace (talk) 14:57, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Liyafromspace: Your draft was rejected and won't be reconsidered. You are free to nominate other articles for deletion if you don't believe they meet Wikipedia's notability requirements. C F A 💬 15:13, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

16:22, 12 August 2024 review of submission by Terryfilch

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I got five declined submissions to VictoriaMetrics wiki page. For the latest submission from 14th of March contains reviewed sources, but this submission has been declined too. Can anyone help and point me to a list which links are not suitable for the submission? Is there any list of reliable sources which we can use for mention for the References? Terryfilch (talk) 16:22, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Terryfilch: Refer to my /Decode subpage (linked in my signature as "critiques"):
None of your sources I can assess are any good. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v threads critiques 17:24, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

17:02, 12 August 2024 review of submission by Devartha Morang

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How we may remove the criteria for auto-deletion? We have tried to make the page an average biographical one of a person. We have not tried to promote or adversities anything commercial. Devartha Morang (talk) 17:02, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Devartha Morang: Who is "we"? C F A 💬 17:09, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Devartha Morang: Read the template; it will have directions. (I'm also sceptical that an admin will act on the G11; this isn't particularfly promotional.) —Jéské Couriano v^_^v threads critiques 17:10, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

17:08, 12 August 2024 review of submission by Kelubact

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This article was declined because it did not meet the minimum standard for inline citations. However, there are inline citations throughout the article. Could I get any input on what I should change? Thanks Kelubact (talk) 17:08, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Kelubact I agree that it has citations. I am looking further for you. 🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦 19:43, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Kelubact I believe that it has a better than 50% chance of surviving an immediate deletion process so have accepted it. However, at least ine of the references is to a specific site selling a book. Please use {{Cite book}} using the parameter ISBN to perform the link 🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦 19:49, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

19:14, 12 August 2024 review of submission by Artists Raihan

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WHAT IS THE REASON? Artists Raihan (talk) 19:14, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You blanked the draft here [1]] so it was tagged for deletion. Theroadislong (talk) 19:39, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

20:12, 12 August 2024 review of submission by Wilfred Day

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I am surprised this is not yet posted. Nominations are happening from time to time, so I checked Wikipedia to see the state of nominations, including any upcoming ones where the date has been announced. Nothing! Amazing! Please get on with it. Wilfred Day (talk) 20:12, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I have answered you at the Teahouse. Please don't ask the same question in multiple places. ColinFine (talk) 21:53, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

20:35, 12 August 2024 review of submission by Sabbir.help

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Assalamu Alaikum. Sir Please publish this page of mine. I will be very grateful to you if you make this page public. I really wish wikipedia would have something about me with my name and my pictures and more info. Sabbir.help (talk) 20:35, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

20:41, 12 August 2024 review of submission by Maosone

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My article was declined for reading like an advertisement, lacking neutrality and independent sources.

I researched other topics and companies (such as Nubank or Mercy Virtual and believed that Telelaudo, a pioneer in teleradiology in Brazil, would be notable. Before I start revising, should I focus on summarizing the parts that support its notability, or is it better to abandon this submission?

I Maosone (talk) 20:41, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Maosone You have created a useful article for a magazine, but this is not one. You are correct in assuming that you now need to cut, cut, and cut again. Summarising is useful. Your only job is to prove, verify, that it passes WP:NCORP. If you can prove t then resubmit it. If you cannot, then it will not qualify. The shorthand for what is required may be found in WP:42 🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦 06:50, 13 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Timtrent thanks a lot! I will see if it is worth to resubmit according to these links you mentioned!! Maosone (talk) 15:36, 13 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Maosone: The "parts that support its notability" would be the sourcing, which the reviewer dismissed as mostly connected with the firm. I should also note the draft reads somewhat like an investors' brochure. Refer to my /Decode subpage (linked in my signature as "critiques"):
Of the sources I could assess, only one is any good. The rest are either routine coverage or completely irrelevant. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v threads critiques 07:03, 13 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Jéské Couriano Thank you very much for going through all the sources. I appreciate a lot your work and will certainly take it into consideration next time I try to write an article. For this one, as you said, I guess almost nothing saves so I better abandon it... Maosone (talk) 15:38, 13 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Maosone May I suggest you invest 30 minutes in further research. Who knows what, if anything, you will find? 🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦 16:22, 13 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Timtrent Thank you for the encouragement! I really appreciate your feedback. I’ll be doing some further research to see if I can improve the article and make it more aligned with Wikipedia’s standards. If I’m not successful, it was still a valuable experience, and I’ve gained important knowledge on how to edit here. Maosone (talk) 18:03, 13 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

22:53, 12 August 2024 review of submission by 2600:8801:8C01:610:D816:E7F3:A35C:C3E4

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? 2600:8801:8C01:610:D816:E7F3:A35C:C3E4 (talk) 22:53, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The draft has been rejected because this person is not notable as Wikipedia defines that term. Cullen328 (talk) 23:29, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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