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05:45, 11 September 2023 review of submission by Amcdougle edit

Hi Im requesting assistance for this article because I was denied. I'm not to sure how I can make the article more credible even with the links I provided and wikipedia citations with the producers name in the other artists wiki page. Amcdougle (talk) 05:45, 11 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

You've documented his work, but not summarized what independent reliable sources with significant coverage have chosen on their own to say about him, showing how he meets the special Wikipedia definition of a notable creative professional. If you have no such sources, this person would not merit an article at this time. 331dot (talk) 09:15, 11 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

06:41, 11 September 2023 review of submission by Raymondsiyluy05 edit

Could you review my draft? Raymondsiyluy05 (talk) 06:41, 11 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Raymondsiyluy05: we don't do reviews on demand here at the help desk. The draft has been resubmitted, and will be reviewed when a reviewer happens to pick it up. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 06:50, 11 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

09:10, 11 September 2023 review of submission by Ashok Dhoble edit

unable to understand why is my submission being declined Ashok Dhoble (talk) 09:10, 11 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Ashok Dhoble: the reasons are given in the decline notices, those grey boxes inside the larger pink one; please read them carefully (incl. the linked content), and come back if you still have questions.
I should add that I declined this on those grounds before I noticed the copyright violations, otherwise I might have declined for that. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 09:13, 11 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

15:15, 11 September 2023 review of submission by AnglistEd edit

Hello,

Thanks for your work on this! Can I ask why, precisely, the sources I used are not "reliable"? Do I just need to include more of them? I have now added some more.

Among them, there's a reference to a book which Werner Habicht co-edited, which grew out of a conference he co-organized; his obituary, published in an academic journal; a tribute to him on his 70th birthday, again published in an academic jorunal; and his biographical profiles on at least two reputable websites -- one of which is the website of the Mainzer Akademie, and the other to the Bayerische Akademie: two of Germany's leading scholarly 'academies'.

I will admit that there *is* the problem that most of the sources are in German -- which is inevitable, as the article refers to a Germanist of a generation when a lot of work in English studies published in Germany (not to mention its reception in the form of reviews etc.) was published in the German language itself.

There doesn't seem to be a way round this -- but I want to assure you that Werner Habicht was an extremely eminent and influential figure in the field of English Studies in Germany. User:AnglistEd page. (talk) 15:15, 11 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @AnglistEd: based on a quick glance, the referencing was quite sparse when this was reviewed (still is, to some extent), so it may be a case of "not adequately supported" rather than the sources being non-reliable, per se. That said, I'm only guessing, so I'll ping the reviewer Idoghor Melody in case they can shed more light on this. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 15:25, 11 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
It is not required that sources be in English. Sources can be in any language. 331dot (talk) 15:25, 11 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
PS: Nothing wrong with using German-language sources; sources don't have to be in English, per WP:NONENG. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 15:26, 11 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for your answer, which may go some way towards explaining the request for revisions. I'd be extremely grateful for Wikipedia NOT to delete the article while I work on revising and adding to the sources. Thank you! User:AnglistEd page. (talk) 15:42, 11 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Be rest assured that it is not going to be deleted. Since you've added more sources and submitted for review, someone else is going to look at the article sooner or later. Comr Melody Idoghor (talk) 16:07, 11 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  Accepted. Werner Habicht meets our notability criteria.. I have linked to his Wikidata record. You will see a banner at the foot with links to his academic works, or a catalogue thereof. 🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦 17:05, 11 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

16:47, 11 September 2023 review of submission by TheProEditor11 edit

I wrote a article on Wikipedia about a famous personality, Indian YouTuber and Music actor - Ujjwal Chaurasia, who have currently over 35.4 Million subscribers on YouTube which is one of the largest individual channel in Asia was rejected. Why was it rejected on baseless grounds which states "it does not qualify for Wikipedia's creation since the article is not about a famous person'. My article was written in neat and clean way and the personality is also very famous. (Draft:Ujjwal Chaurasia) Need assistance ASAP because I am feeling sad and depressed since I was working on this article for 6 months (since April) TheProEditor11 (talk) 16:47, 11 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

TheProEditor11 The good news is your draft was declined, not rejected. Here, "rejected" has a specific meaning, that a draft may not be resubmitted. "Declined" means it may be resubmitted if you can address the concerns of the reviewer. Note that the decline reason is not as you state- it was "This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article". Fame and notability- what we are looking for- are not the same thing. A person can be notable but not famous, and famous but not notable. Please read the comments left by reviewers on your draft. 331dot (talk) 16:54, 11 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
What is the good news ? I am so sad. I think that the person is both notable and famous. The references added were from DNAIndia, RedBull India, India.com and LiveMint which are said to be the best and powerful news websites from India (except Redbull). Also, I have read all the comments by reviewers. TheProEditor11 (talk) 16:59, 11 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
The good news is that your draft may be resubmitted, the decline is not final as a rejection would be.
Several of your sources are interviews. Interviews do not establish notability(though they can be used for other purposes). Most of the other sources describe his being included in a video game, which doesn't add to notability unless the significance of this is described(and that sounds more relevant to the game, not to the person). 331dot (talk) 17:06, 11 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@TheProEditor11 Please take a pace back, and read carefully. You may resubmit after making the required and recommended changes 🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦 17:07, 11 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@TheProEditor11: the draft wasn't rejected, only declined. And the reason it was declined was lack of apparent notability, as defined in Wikipedia terms. We don't care how many YT subscribers he has, or whether it was "written in neat and clean way", or if the person is "very famous". We care whether they satisfy the notability criteria. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 16:55, 11 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Ok. Please tell me the notability criteria and also Please help me edit that draft article. Thankyou! TheProEditor11 (talk) 04:00, 13 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
You can find the criteria in notability. In short, you need to find several places where people who have no connection with Chaurasia have chosen to write at some depth about him, and been published somewhere with a reputation for editorial control and fact checking. Nothing written, created, published, or commissioned by Chaurasia or his associates will count, nothing which merely reports his or his associates' words (such as anything based on a press release, and most interviews). Nothing on social media, or user-contributed sites such as blogs, wikis (including Wikipedia) or iMDB.
Wikipedia is not interested in what the subject of an article says or wants to say about themselves, or what their associates say about them. Wikipedia is only interested in what people who have no connection with the subject, and who have not been prompted or fed information on behalf of the subject, have chosen to publish about the subject in reliable sources. ColinFine (talk) 15:10, 13 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Ok thanks! I will try again soon! Thanks for your support everyone..... Now I will contribute more and more here! TheProEditor11 (talk) 06:35, 15 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

19:59, 11 September 2023 review of submission by Chickenb4Egg edit

I cited the source of the text at the end of the paragraph but got declined. How do I fix this? Chickenb4Egg (talk) 19:59, 11 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Chickenb4Egg Your question is imprecise. Please be specific, and ask again. Ask in this thread.
Thank you for declaring that you are paid for this article. I have migrated the template to your user page where you ought to have placed it. 🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦 21:16, 11 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I got it answered in the live help, thank you though. Chickenb4Egg (talk) 21:17, 11 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

20:54, 11 September 2023 review of submission by Xuppu edit

When I type something, like 1 January 2022 (2022-01-01) How do we make it go in a go like a box? It only says those words on the page when I’m done editing! Thanks! Xuppu (talk) 20:54, 11 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Xuppu Try as I might I do not understand what you have been attempting. Please ask again, with more detail, and ask in this thread. 🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦 21:19, 11 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Ok, so I want a box like here, List of Miraculous: Tales of Ladybug & Cat Noir episodes if you go to the section that says Series Overview, below that, when I try to make a box like that, it says the code, it doesn’t show to box! If you don’t understand, I’ll try to explain later, thanks! :) Xuppu (talk) 23:13, 11 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Xuppu: your immediate problem is that you haven't closed the template call, it needs the double curly brackets }} to complete it. Try it yourself. (I don't know if that's the kind of 'box' that you actually wanted to create, though.)
That being said, this question isn't really related to the AfC process, this is just basic Wikipedia editing skills, so you should probably ask at the Help desk or the Teahouse instead. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 06:13, 12 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Ok, thanks! :) Xuppu (talk) 19:47, 12 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

20:54, 11 September 2023 review of submission by Hadley99 edit

Just updated sources. Thank you Hadley99 (talk) 20:54, 11 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Hadley99 If you feel it to be ready for review, please submit it. 🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦 21:17, 11 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Just submitted. Thank you Hadley99 (talk) 22:44, 11 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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