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Request on 06:46:28, 25 March 2023 for assistance on AfC submission by Faran315

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I am trying to add an article for a local social club that has historic significance. Multiple references have beeen provided but have failed to get the article approved. This is a venue that has city wide significance. Hence, the references available are also local and average sized websites. Please advise best course of action.

Faran 06:46, 25 March 2023 (UTC)

@Faran315: for notability, we need to see significant coverage in multiple independent and reliable secondary sources; this draft cites no such source. Also, too much of the content is unreferenced, and has been tagged as such, yet you have resubmitted without addressing the matter. Accordingly, I have had to decline this again, and I should warn you that if the issues highlighted aren't rectified, this is starting to run the risk of outright rejection. --DoubleGrazing (talk) 07:34, 25 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Noted. I will rework the language and try to find more reliable sources.
Thanks for your help. Faran 07:46, 25 March 2023 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Faran315 (talk • contribs)
PS: And don't copypaste from external sources; the entire 'History' section was lifted off the club's website which is under copyright. --DoubleGrazing (talk) 07:41, 25 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

13:54:33, 25 March 2023 review of submission by Its-unused

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  Warning:This page was rejected.

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21:36:07, 25 March 2023 review of submission by Fredner1

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Fredner1 (talk) 21:36, 25 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hello @Fredner1:, it looks like your draft has two problems right now: it's almost completely unsourced, which is especially problematic for a biography of a living person, and there's no indication of notability- that is, it doesn't seem that the subject merits its own article: the subject needs significant coverage in reliable sources. Edward-Woodrow (talk) 23:46, 25 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

22:22:44, 25 March 2023 review of submission by Mdeditpro

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You don’t have any proof I submitted good article about this person and I had many press to it so why declined it cause your reason is not genuine Mdeditpro (talk) 22:22, 25 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Okay...
Not declined, though; rejected. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 07:51, 26 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

22:29:18, 25 March 2023 review of submission by Mdeditpro

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Please can anyone advise me what they actually mean here “Sources are PR pieces and nothing suggests subject can meet the notability guidelines” I submit a draft and this their reason why they declined it please tell how will solve this Mdeditpro (talk) 22:29, 25 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Allpedia, press releases and wiki bio are not reliable sources. Theroadislong (talk) 22:35, 25 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

23:50:17, 25 March 2023 review of draft by Jayneelyn

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Hi, I have made revisions on the citations/references based on the comments given by contributors. Also, how do you disclose paid contributions in the aFC? I was only able to edit it in the user page.

Will highly appreciate your comments and suggestions. Thanks!

Jayneelyn (talk) 23:50, 25 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Jayneelyn see WP:PAID; you disclose either on your own user page, or on the talk page of the article(s) affected, or both. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 07:49, 26 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Hi. I already disclosed that the article is a paid contribution under the user page, as advised. Please see the revisions made. Thank you! Jayneelyn (talk) 11:02, 26 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Jayneelyn: thank you for disclosing that; however, please don't post the entire article draft on your user page (see WP:UP for advice on what content is allowed on user pages). -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 11:08, 26 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@DoubleGrazing noted on this. Thank you so much! Is there anything else I need to improve or revise? Thanks. Jayneelyn (talk) 12:11, 26 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Jayneelyn: yes, you will need to significantly improve the referencing – three sources, each only once cited, is nowhere near enough to support the article, as most of the content remains unreferenced. Please see WP:BLP for advice on writing and referencing articles on living people. TL;DNR = every material statement, anything potentially contentious, and all private personal and family details must be clearly supported by citing reliable published sources, or else removed. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 07:32, 27 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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