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05:11, 5 August 2023 review of submission by SnosajSE

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Hello, I’ve recently submitted my first article and it was declined for reading like an advertisement and not referencing a range of independent/reliable sources.

Regarding presentation, I actually organized the article building fact upon fact. Then adjusted the sentence structure to make it read more easily. I am not married to any particular portion, and in general my approach to writing is to generate more content and then trim. So am open to feedback on this regard. Following are the main points I believe are pertinent to cover:

1. Company basic data (infotable). 2. Companies across the world are committing to reducing their carbon footprint but are struggling to stay on track for the 2030 goals. 3. Origin has a patented chemical process to the reduce carbon footprint for the basic chemical building blocks needed by companies. 4. Origin’s technology has been reviewed by large international companies who have become partners in as the scale the company to meet demand. 5. Demand for chemical options like this is incredibly high. It would take around 100 companies like Origin to start making a dent in significantly reducing carbon footprint within the chemical/materials industries. 6. Origin has vetted their process at a pilot plant, and became a public company to access the capital required to begin constructing their plants. 7. Their first commercial plant opened in July 2023, and they intend to build at least 5 more before 2030 to support companies meet their carbon goals.

Regarding sources, I’ve organized the varying references into categories below. It would be helpful to understand (a) which are not considered reliable (publications?), and whether more or less citations would be expected.

Notable Publications (Third Party, Independent) Forbes Yahoo Finance Harvard Business Review

Publications (Third Party, Independent) (2) Sustainable Plastics Accenture Newsroom Renewable Carbon News Just Style Chem Analyst News Contract Pharma CNET The Daily Digest Packaging World Sarnia-Lambton Economic Partnership CBC News / Radio Canada Bioplastics Magazine Chemical Engineering CK News Today Green Chemicals Blog The Business Research Company Business Wire

Organizations (Third Party, Independent) (3) UC Davis (2) IEA United Nations US White House US EPA Office of Governor John Bel Edwards, Louisiana YPO (Young Professional Organization)

Other (Third Party, Independent) LocalWiki My Climate Journey Collective Newsletter

Private Companies (Secondary Source) SCGP Packaging, partner Nestle USA, partner Cleary Gottlieb Attorney, represented Artius

Primary Sources Origin Materials… press release for first quarter of revenue. Artius Acquisitions…their website identifying company goal and founders.

Thank you for your time and consideration. Sincerely, SnosajSE (talk) 05:11, 5 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@SnosajSE Then cover those points using very tight writing and starting and finishing with what the references say, but in 100% your words.
What you appear to have done is to have written what you wish to say and then forced references to fit your text. Unfortunately, your text is journalistic narrative, which is tantamount to having written advertorial.
No-one is interested in press releases. These are primary sources, and are to be used only with extreme care, and in Avery limited manner.
I suggest a rewrite from the ground up. 🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦 05:47, 5 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for the response and the clarification- much appreciated. To reiterate what you said, I should rely close to solely on independent third party references and mirror what they say in my own words, which is preferred over presenting a cohesive narrative. SnosajSE (talk) 06:25, 5 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Fiddle Faddle 🤞 SnosajSE (talk) 06:28, 5 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@SnosajSE Your job is to construct a cohesive, tight piece of "dull-but-worthy" prose, based with precision on what others have recorded about the company in multiple independent reliable sources. Go to it with a will, 🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦 06:34, 5 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Fiddle Faddle, thank you again. Appreciate your guidance. SnosajSE (talk) 13:24, 5 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

09:45, 5 August 2023 review of submission by Amal Solomon

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Submission getting rejected Amal Solomon (talk) 09:45, 5 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, it was rejected, meaning that it will not be considered further. 331dot (talk) 09:51, 5 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

10:17, 5 August 2023 review of submission by John Malvin

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What is the motive to why my Wikipedia article not sent to space? John Malvin (talk) 10:17, 5 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Your draft User:John Malvin/sandbox was declined because there is no indication whatsoever that you pass the criteria at WP:GNG. Theroadislong (talk) 10:51, 5 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

14:45, 5 August 2023 review of submission by Alexxxxx125

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sir i want to upload this on wikipedia for people to find out the history of zam zam electronics please review my content and suggest me something related to content please Alexxxxx125 (talk) 14:45, 5 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The draft has been rejected, which means it will not be further considered. It has also been proposed for speedy deletion as pure promotion.
Please read what Wikipedia is not and notability. ColinFine (talk) 14:51, 5 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

15:12, 5 August 2023 review of submission by Corky Clubman

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Why was my article declined? Corky Clubman (talk) 15:12, 5 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Corky,
I'm afraid that you do not seem to meet the Wikipedia:Notability (people) threshold for a Wikipedia article at this time.
The easiest way to improve on your draft is to find reliable, independent, secondary sources that cover you in detail, and then summarise them in your own words. That should make up the content of your article draft. Note that the sources must be:
- Reliable: Your article should rely on strong, reliable sources that are published by reputable institutions. Primary sources can be used for basic facts (such as a date of birth), but they should be supplemented with strong secondary sources that offer analysis or interpretation.
- Independent: Your sources should be independent of the subject, for example not self-published or from the subject's own website.
- Show significant coverage: Your subject should be discussed in detail in the sources you find. The sources should provide in-depth information or analysis about the subject, going beyond basic facts or promotional material.
- From multiple places: You should find at least three separate reliable, independent, secondary sources that discuss your subject.
- Not original research: Wikipedia articles should summarise existing knowledge about a subject, not present new research. This means you should avoid drawing your own conclusions or analyses from the sources. Stick to summarising what the sources say in a neutral tone.
Remember that your article should be written from a Wikipedia:Neutral point of view.
However, we do highly discourage people from writing an article about themselves (see Wikipedia:Autobiography) and I would suggest that if you do become notable enough sometime in the future a Wikipedia volunteer will create an article about you.
Hope that helps, Qcne (talk) 15:35, 5 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

15:14, 5 August 2023 review of submission by Loisopokupr

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Hi there,

I would like to publish this page for my client Langston Uibel. I am finding it difficult to understand the question of notability. Uibel, for example stars in many well known shows and films. This is backed up by noteworthy press (NY Times, Washington Post). Is there more an actor could “provide”. Thank You for you time! Loisopokupr (talk) 15:14, 5 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @Loisopokupr.
Firstly, you must immediately disclose that you are being paid to edit on Wikipedia- not disclosing this is a breach of Wikipedia Terms and Conditions. Please comply immediately by following the instructions here: Wikipedia:Paid-contribution disclosure.
I am afraid that your draft article has been rejected, and there is nothing you can now do. At this time Langston is not notable enough for Wikipedia and therefore cannot have a Wikipedia article. It may be the case of it being Wikipedia:Too soon - perhaps sometime in the future Langdon will meet the notability threshold and one of our Wikipedia volunteers will create an article about him - today is not that day however.
To understand what we mean by 'notability' please read Wikipedia:Notability (people) which explains what a person, or specifically an actor, needs to have done to be eligible for a Wikipedia article. Langston simply hasn't had enough major roles in notable films at this time.
Hope that helps, let us know if you have any further questions though. Qcne (talk) 15:28, 5 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I'd also just like to point out @Loisopokupr, that eleven months ago on your User Talk page you denied having any connection, financial or otherwise, to Langston. This obviously directly contradicts above where you have stated you are a, presumably, paid PR agent. Obviously we take a dim view to this sort of purposeful omission, and as I stated previously not disclosing this is a breach of the Wikimedia Foundation Terms of Use.
I'll leave it up to other editors if they wish to take any punitive action. Qcne (talk) 15:31, 5 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

16:03, 5 August 2023 review of submission by Muezbinayaz

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sirb Write an article on SOS Extermination but i recived answer from you side thats declined why Muezbinayaz (talk) 16:03, 5 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @Muezbinayaz,
Your question is not very clear- your article draft has been declined as you have not shown that SOS Extermination has met the Wikipedia:Notability (organizations and companies) threshold. This is a set of criteria that all companies must pass in order to have a Wikipedia article- if SOS Extermination does not pass these criteria then I am afraid it cannot have a Wikipedia article at this time.
Please remember that Wikipedia is not a place for any type of self-promotion or advertisement. Wikipedia is not a social media site like Facebook, Instagram, or LinkedIn.
It might be worth reading Wikipedia:Your first article which gives you the dos and don'ts of creating an article, and Wikipedia:Five pillars which detail the fundamental principles of Wikipedia.
Finally, please note that if you are connected in any way to SOS Extermination then you must declare your Wikipedia:Conflict of interest.
If you have any questions, we have a friendly space where experienced editors can help you here: Get help at the Teahouse
Hope that helps, Qcne (talk) 16:47, 5 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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