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02:50:46, 3 September 2018 review of draft by 108.204.65.73

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why?

108.204.65.73 (talk) 02:50, 3 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

03:28:45, 3 September 2018 review of submission by Bharathshastry

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Bharathshastry (talk) 03:28, 3 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]


Why My article has be declined please elaborate the issue...?

Hi Bharathshastry. The big pink box on Draft:Manjunath J. Anivaarya contains links to extensive explanations of why the draft is not acceptable. In short, Wikipedia doesn't publish biographies of every film director, only notable ones. For example, there is a biography of Girish Kasaravalli because there is significant coverage of him in independent, reliable, secondary sources (think books and newspapers). People have written extensively about him because he is an eminent filmmaker who has made numerous films and won fourteen National Film Awards. The draft does not cite any independent, reliable, secondary sources containing significant coverage of Manjunath J. Anivaarya. That is probably because he is an up-and-coming director who has made one film. It is WP:TOOSOON to write an article about him on Wikipedia. --Worldbruce (talk) 06:02, 3 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

09:04:49, 3 September 2018 review of draft by Shadwell Basin

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Shadwell Basin (talk) 09:04, 3 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Message to @Gbawden: from Shadwell Basin:

You were kind enough to help me with citations and a list of contents for this article. If you were inclined to do so, I was wondering if you'd be able to return to it and check my citations now? I have three thoughts in mind:

1. The printed sources are all accurate, but the sources I've used do not usually reveal a page number for newspapers and magazines, which need to be added. I know this is a nuisance but I imagine your sources may reveal page numbering? However, I'm very sorry for this problem.

2. I take it my sources which are radio or TV broadcasts, which I do have access to, may not be generally available. I can delete them if that is appropriate, although their existence is quite important as they are part of the subject's output.

3. If you can mark any other things needing citation I can either find one or delete the reference. Of course a large part of this writer's life (apart from "Sonia" and the "Fifth Man") is really covered by the single reference of his entry in the British Who's Who published by A & C Black, which I refer to.

Incidentally the subject was a leading thriller writer, widely written about and translated, until stopped (not quite) dead by heart attack. I've been aware of his work since the 80s but have revisited it for something else I've been writing, hence this article as I was surprised there wasn't one, but was not familiar with the Wikipedia process and manuals.

Shadwell Basin, if you're curious, is the largest of the very old (18th/19th Century?) London Docks (near Tower Bridge) which has not been filled in and built on. It is fifteen minutes walk from the City of London but now a lake occupied by ducks, swans and sailing dinghies and I'm looking over it as I write.

Thanks for your help and forbearance to a struggling novice!

11:57:00, 3 September 2018 review of draft by Abhijitdyp

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how can i know if my draft is submitted for review or not. i hhave already hit the publish changes and submit draft button thrice but there is no confirmatory message Abhijitdyp (talk) Abhijitdyp (talk) 11:57, 3 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Abhijitdyp. Currently the draft is not submitted (I don't know if the grey box appeared at the top after you posted). When it's done it should disappear and be replaced (either at top or bottom of article) with a yellow box with writing inside.
If you like, I can submit the draft for review if you're having trouble.
I would note, that currently your draft has no sources, which means it will definitely be declined in review. You need reliable/independent sources (newspapers, books, journal articles etc) which cover Patil in depth.
Usually a draft takes a while to be reviewed, so you usually have time to improve them after submitting, but sometimes they get reviewed quickly (We pick drafts that our in our field of interest). As I said, respond below if you need help submitting Nosebagbear (talk) 12:17, 3 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@Nosebagbear: I have submitted the draft as Abhijitdyp and reviewed it while you are making this comment. —AE (talk • contributions) 12:18, 3 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

13:52:24, 3 September 2018 review of draft by Middleeastd

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I'd love some help, please. Below are the noted problems: "This draft does not establish biographical notability. It has a large number of references, but the references merely refer to what he and his businesses say, and they do not establish that independent sources have written about him. Robert McClenon (talk) 23:36, 2 September 2018 (UTC)" --With respect, it seems most of the references are independent sources from publications. I wonder which ones should be removed or would be appropriate--any tips would be appreciated.

Also, the person and their activities seems comparable to others in similar fields. Take for example Issa Abdul Salam Abu-Issa.

"Symbol opinion vote.svg Comment: This draft has been reference-bombed, largely with press releases. Robert McClenon (talk) 22:08, 2 September 2018 (UTC)" I'm not sure I follow this comment, please--there are no press releases referenced. Is it that the published articles appear to have been generated from press releases, is that right?

Any other tips on how to rectify this would be helpful.

Thanks so much--just trying to figure this out!


Middleeastd (talk) 13:52, 3 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Middleeastd. I started cleaning up the draft. As the reviewer said, most of the cited sources were not independent (e.g. this press release) or their content about him was nonexistent, trivial, or came from him (e.g. [1]).
I stopped cleaning up before the awards section, by which time it had become fairly clear that he is not notable. Bloomberg is reliable, but indiscriminate. It tries to list all companies and executives, so being listed there is not an indication of notability. The information in Who's Who is supplied by the subjects, so it's reliable for non-controversial information, but again doesn't help establish notability. Interviews that are just Abuissa talking about Abuissa, without independent critical commentary, are primary sources and lack independence.
The awards are not especially impressive, E&Y gives out 400 of them every year. If you continue working on the draft, you'll need to address the WP:BOMBARD in the awards section. There's no reason to cite six sources for one award when a single independent, reliable source will do.
With regard to similar articles, although it is natural to learn by example, it is safer to work from the official guidelines, in this case Wikipedia:Notability (people). Wikipedia is forever a work in progress. It contains high quality articles and poor quality articles. The existence of articles that do not meet Wikipedia's policies and guidelines is not a good excuse to create more such articles. The essay WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS may help you understand why. If you wish to learn from example articles, be sure to use only Wikipedia's best. --Worldbruce (talk) 17:30, 3 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

14:25:01, 3 September 2018 review of draft by Ahmad dafer

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Ahmad dafer (talk) 14:25, 3 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hello dear As for the topics that have been raised, I have just noticed that most Arab tournaments do not have websites. It is difficult to collect information about them. Therefore, I search through the local newspapers for the results of these tournaments according to the articles that I publish and put in place. In other words, In that country. The other thing is that I was a player in the Al Ahli handball club and became an administrator for the team and I know very well what the history of this club Thank you :)

14:31:54, 3 September 2018 review of submission by Plazarev

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I've created this list of JavaScript pivot tables after coming across an article on this very topic: https://dzone.com/articles/comparison-of-javascript-pivot-grids-for-developer I haven't included it in the Reference list, as I've decided to conduct my own research into the features of JavaScript pivot tables represented in the list to find out more details about them. All information provided in the list is technical. I was trying to create an article by the example of this one: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_JavaScript_frameworks Please, advise me if it makes sense to at least include any of these tables in this article: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pivot_table

Best regards,

Plazarev (talk) 14:31, 3 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

18:53:45, 3 September 2018 review of draft by Yororipas

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Yororipas (talk) 18:53, 3 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, is there a quick way to locate a particular line on a wiki page while editing? i.e. can you get it to display line numbers along the side for example?

@Yororipas: - hi. As far as I know there isn't, what particularly are you intending to do. There isn't any fixed content per line, so different amounts would display depending on screen size etc. Usually if we're trying to point to something more specific we'd indicate/link to a section/sub-section. If that's what you're trying to do then I can tell you, or you can ask a question (or re-ask this one - I may well be missing something) at the TEAHOUSE. Nosebagbear (talk) 07:36, 5 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

19:57:45, 3 September 2018 review of draft by Wesley Craig

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Need help publishing draft of #1 best-selling Christian devotional book of all-time, Jesus Calling, authored by Sarah Young.

The book was first published in 2004 and has sold over 22 million copies worldwide.

Cheers,

Wesley Craig (talk) 19:57, 3 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

20:43:30, 3 September 2018 review of draft by Sofiagrama6

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Sofiagrama6 (talk) 20:43, 3 September 2018 (UTC) brooke[reply]


2018 brooklyn shooting happened just recently. Sofiagrama6 (talk) 20:43, 3 September 2018 (UTC) 2018[reply]

@Sofiagrama6: - there doesn't appear to be any detail, at all, to your draft. Wikipedia requires at least a reasonable minimum of content, as well as suitable referencing, to be provided. It's worth having a look at "Your First Article". Nosebagbear (talk) 07:41, 5 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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