Wikipedia:Valued picture candidates/October-2009

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Map of Rensselaerswyck

Original - Original Map of Rensselaerswyck, probably created around 1632, but not known exactly. Authorship is usually credited to Gillis van Schendel, but due to timing inconsistencies, this is most likely not true. Believed to be the first map created of the Manor of Rensselaerswyck. The Hudson River flows from right to left; north is to the right.

Reason: 17th century map of the only successful patroonship within New Netherland. Historically significant for the Albany, New York and Capital District area. The original is actually on display at the New York State Museum as part of an exhibition called "1609", in celebration of Henry Hudson's voyage up the Hudson River.
Articles this image appears in: Map of Rensselaerswyck, Manor of Rensselaerswyck, Kiliaen van Rensselaer (Dutch merchant)
Creator: Unknown

Support as nominator --upstate NYer 00:50, 14 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
What's this like in comparison to the original size? The text is a little on the small side... J Milburn (talk) 21:56, 14 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- The original is 24,244 × 8,078 pixels and very clear. This is downsampled so it will show at thumbnail (5,000 × 1,666 pixels). upstate NYer 23:31, 14 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Supoort-- There's something about the color or texture that makes it appealing, but can't figure out what it is... Zoo Fari 23:35, 18 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Not promoted --Makeemlighter (talk) 01:15, 3 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

501st Parachute Infantry Regiment

Original - Floating on mushrooming green parachutes, members of the 1st Battalion Airborne, 501st Infantry, Fort Richardson, Alaska, pepper the sky in their careful descent over Donnelly Drop Zone.

Reason: A compelling image of an airborne infantry drop.
Articles this image appears in: Airborne forces, 501st Infantry Regiment (United States)
Creator: U.S. Army photo by Staff Sgt. Marlene S. Barry.

Support as nominator --Trevor MacInnis ^contribs 16:03, 18 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Support upstate NYer 16:49, 21 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Not promoted --Makeemlighter (talk) 01:15, 3 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Mount Vesuvius from Pompeii

Original 1 - Visible from Pompeii are the two craters of the Mount Vesuvius volcano. In 79 AD, Vesuvius erupted violently, decimating Pompeii and Herculaneum and killing between 10,000 and 25,000 people. Vesuvius's last eruption was in 1944, and if it were to erupt like this again, scientists speculate 600,000 people would be killed.

Original 2 - New scan from original negative. Should the colors be adjusted to match the gloom of the older version?

Colors adjusted - proposed color-corrected version of the new scan to remove the perceived yellowish cast

—Preceding unsigned comment added by Morn (talk • contribs) 03:14, 6 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Reason: Taken in the extremely historic district of Pompeii, which we all know, this image is excellent in that it shows how close Vesuvius is to Pompeii. It is somewhat low res, but the EV overtakes that. I think the image should also be added to Pompeii, somewhere.
Articles this image appears in: Mount Vesuvius
Creator: Apparently Morn

Support as nominator --ceranthor 17:22, 21 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Support Very cool. wadester 16 04:55, 29 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Weak Oppose - It needs some fine tuning, and is rather small. Concider nominating it for a Valued Picture, I don't think it makes the cut for an FP. Nezzadar (talk) 15:14, 2 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

This is VPC, not FPC. ceranthor 21:18, 2 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Support as creator ;-) --- Seeing that this image remains quite popular (for several years it was featured on the WP-EN frontpage on the anniversary of the eruption), perhaps I should see if I can track down the negative and have it scanned at higher resolution. At the time I had to use a print, and unfortunately more than about 1 megapixel resolution was out of the question. Morn (talk) 02:59, 4 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

As you can see, a higher-quality scan of the image is now available. If you feel the colors need to be adjusted, Nezzadar, adjust away.

I sort of like the bloody tone of the walls on the original image, but I'm not sure if this was due to color correction in the Gimp in the old version or if the new version has been excessively adjusted towards more yellow and green by the lab. It was a pretty overcast day, so I think it should look a little more foreboding. Morn (talk) 23:15, 5 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Support. I weakly prefer the "hires, adjusted" version, but the color strikes me as a little weird in all three.--ragesoss (talk) 01:24, 11 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Support Either #2 or #3, look way better. Staxringold _talk^contribs 12:21, 11 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I'm trying to get yet another scan (tomorrow perhaps), this time from a large print. The problem with the negative scans (#2 and #3) is that the lab always boosts the greeens (the grass) and blues (the sky) ridiculously. What I'd really like to obtain is a high-resolution scan without weird colors. We'll see if they can do it... Morn (talk) 23:36, 11 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Well, it looks like it will be a few more days before I get the "new new scan." :( Morn (talk) 17:37, 14 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Original 3 - "New, new" scan from large-format print.

Here's the final scan, now with better colors and very high resolution. Had to scale it down a little, because apparently the image thumbnailer can only handle images up to 12.5 megapixels. Morn (talk) 20:38, 28 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I'm bumping this to the top of the page so we can get some comments on all the edits. Makeemlighter (talk) 05:41, 29 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Prefer the new, new scan. It might be a good idea to convert the full size scan to jpeg; big pngs are no fun for anyone.--ragesoss (talk) 01:53, 3 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - Asked to comment, so I'd like the newest scan. Of course, it can be later converted to jpeg form. ceranthor 02:02, 3 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Comment Again, #2 or #3. Staxringold _talk^contribs 02:30, 3 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Preference for Version 3 (third down on right), just to clarify. upstate NYer 04:53, 3 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

P.S. For the time being, I've put version #4 on the Mt. Vesuvius page, because that's the one I like best at this point. (The images also look different depending on whether your browser honors embedded color profiles or not. I.e., Safari does, Camino apparently doesn't.)

I've used PNG in case somebody wants to try out a different color grading. Re-compression of JPEGs generally yields artifacts. And besides, Wikipedia/Wikimedia allows uploads up to 100 MB, so I think it makes sense to use a lossless format. I don't want to have to scan this thing again every few years just because everyone's screen resolution has gone up a little and their CPUs can now handle higher-res images without croaking... Morn (talk) 22:08, 3 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Support The new scan looks best. Pmlineditor ∞ 12:44, 4 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Promoted File:Vesuvius from Pompeii (hires version 2 scaled).png --Makeemlighter (talk) 23:40, 4 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Jesus College Oxford (second quadrangle)

Original - The corner of the north and west sides (built c.1640 – c. 1712) of the second quadrangle of Jesus College, Oxford, with snow covering the grass. The regular pattern of Dutch gables around the top of buildings with their ogee sides and semi-circular pediments can be seen directly and also indirectly with the shadows on the grass.

Reason: A good illustration of the interior of Jesus College, Oxford, particularly the regular pattern of the roofline.
Articles this image appears in: Buildings of Jesus College, Oxford; newly-added to Jesus College, Oxford
Creator: Flickr user Krymzon (Krzysztof Iłowiecki); uploaded to Commons by Bencherlite

Support as nominator --Bencherlite ^Talk 14:12, 21 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Not promoted --Makeemlighter (talk) 23:48, 4 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, let's try again, shall we? Hello?! Would anyone care to comment this time round?

Support as renominator. Bencherlite ^Talk 19:07, 8 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

And the answer to my question was, clearly, "no, go away". Sigh. I'll close this myself, then, shall I?

Not promoted --Bencherlite ^Talk 23:05, 15 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Greenwich Mean Time

Original - The outside clock of the Royal Observatory, Greenwich.

Reason: a paradigmatic and fine quality illustration of two concepts: 'GMT' and 'clock'
Articles this image appears in: Greenwich Mean Time, Clock
Creator: Alvesgaspar (talk)

Support as nominator --Alvesgaspar (talk) 23:42, 25 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Support Cacophony (talk) 05:54, 28 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Support upstate NYer 11:30, 2 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Not enough information on the subject in the file - a perennial problem with valued & featured pictures I find, and one that is likely to restrict their usefulness to editors. There are two big plaques in the image but I can't read them. Quoting or paraphrasing them should cover the issue. Johnbod (talk) 15:42, 6 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Not promoted --Makeemlighter (talk) 21:33, 11 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Great Blue Heron Eating Common Snapping Turtle

Original - Great Blue Heron (Ardea herodias) eating a Common Snapping Turtle (Chelydra serpentina) hatchling.

Reason: Image illustrates a Great Blue Heron eating its prey. The image has been used on the article for months and provides a great close-up of the turtle in the heron's mouth.
Articles this image appears in: Great Blue Heron
Creator: John Harrison

Support as nominator --Happy editing! Nehrams2020 (talk • contrib) 00:41, 28 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Support upstate NYer 11:30, 2 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Support Pmlineditor ∞ 17:31, 5 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Support. --can dle •wicke 02:59, 19 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Support Works. Nezzadar ☎ 22:21, 19 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Promoted File:GreatBlueHeroneatingturtle08.jpg --Makeemlighter (talk) 00:29, 20 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

7 lions

Original - 7 lions spotted along the road in the Masai Mara National Park in Kenya.

Reason: I'd nominated this for FPC where it was suggested to take it here. This looks quite good to me, and I think it meets the criteria.
Articles this image appears in: Lion
Creator: Tekken50 - Uploader, Created by "The Lilac Breasted Roller" at Flickr.

Support as nominator --Pmlineditor ∞ 12:40, 4 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Strong Support Excellent photo. Let's see if we can't find some more articles to add it to. Maybe pride? upstate NYer 20:40, 6 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
This doesn't seem to appear in lion... --can dle •wicke 03:01, 19 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Re added. Pmlineditor ∞ 15:28, 19 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Strong Oppose This is one of the less valuable lion shots, and this isn't the first time I've shot this photo down. Among other things the color balance is terrible and the subjects are heavily obscured. Nezzadar ☎ 22:20, 19 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose This doesn't have much EV. Only one article that's too broad (pride wouldn't work as I see no male lion). Thus it doesn't make it stand out compared to other lion pics out there. Zoo Fari 00:47, 20 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Not promoted --Makeemlighter (talk) 02:42, 22 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The Ummayad Mosque

Original - The Umayyad Mosque, also known as the Grand Mosque of Damascus is one of the largest and oldest mosques in the world.

Reason: Amazing pano of a very interesting structure.
Articles this image appears in: Umayyad Mosque, Damascus
Creator: Theklan

Support as nominator --— raeky ^{(talk | edits)} 07:36, 9 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Support I just added it to Damascus also. upstate NYer 01:31, 12 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Support Forget Valued picture candidate, this should be a Featured Pictured Candidate! Secret Saturdays (talk) 19:16, 18 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment From my experience there I doubt it would pass, the blown out sky for one would get it lots of opposes. — raeky ^{(talk | edits)} 05:34, 19 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Support. --can dle •wicke 03:02, 19 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Support Yeah, there are several issues preventing it from becoming FP, but it's good, so VP works. Nezzadar ☎ 22:19, 19 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Support Zoo Fari 00:41, 20 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Support As the creator of the image... neverthless it was promoted as FP but was neglected from there. -Theklan (talk) 15:28, 22 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Promoted File:Umayyad_Mosquee_panoramic.jpg --Makeemlighter (talk) 02:44, 22 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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