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Template:Campaignbox Carthaginian Expansion edit

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 23:31, 9 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

WP:TFD#REASONS no. #1: per WP:TG no. #2, this campaignbox fails to be a navigation aid. It is used in 1 article, Battle of Alalia, but otherwise nothing links to it, and the campaignbox itself also links nowhere, because it has been full of redlinks for over 10 years (WP:WTAF). So apart from unhelpfully linking Battle of Alalia (which for some unexplained reason is called "Kyrno", which is probably the ancient Greek name for Corsica) to History of Carthage, this template has been doing nothing.

WP:TG no. #5 This campaignbox is not clearly documented as to [its] usage and scope. The very scope is an WP:OR framing of several handpicked battles involving Carthage into a "campaign" under the WP:OR name "Carthaginian Expansion", which very generically links to History of Carthage. There is no Carthaginian Expansion article, there is no "Carthaginian Expansion" section of History of Carthage (in fact, the article speaks of several lowercase e "expansions" instead of 1 "Expansion") or anything of the sort. (If it had been a generally accepted term in historiography, it would have been fine, but it's not, so it's OR).
WP:TG no. #6 Category:Battles involving Carthage can perform the same function. Creating a List of battles involving Carthage might be even better, because that could include all battles and not some self-picked self-framed arbitrary period.

Cheers, Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 19:40, 2 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete Fails the fundamental requirement of a WP:NAVBOX: that it is useful for navigation. Nigej (talk) 21:35, 2 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
The template was created to list the battles between 600 BC to 500 BC, when Carthage expanded across the Western Mediterranean for the History of Carthage page. The intention was to have a separate section on early Punic battles along with the Sicilian Wars and the Punic Wars for this specific article. Regrettably the articles for the listed battles were not posted.Maglorbd (talk) 08:27, 4 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for responding. So this does appear to be a case of WP:CREATEFIRST? Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 13:48, 5 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Template:Konami beat 'em up games edit

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 19:47, 9 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Unnecessary navbox based upon a certain video game genre (beat 'em up) developed-published by a certain company (Konami). Similar gameplay and same company, but different series and different intellectual properties. We do not have {{Rare platformers}}, {{Rock Star third-person shooters}} or {{Arkane first-person immersive sims}} or any other [x genre] by [x developer] navbox. soetermans. ↑↑↓↓←→←→ B A TALK 14:11, 2 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete per nom. The fact that we don't have an article like Konami beat 'em up games fails point 4 of WP:NAVBOX "There should be a Wikipedia article on the subject of the template." and indicates that the topic is probably not a good subject for a navbox. The games seem to be only loosely connected. Nigej (talk) 15:46, 2 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    • Delete per other arguments
    CRwikiCA talk 17:21, 2 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 14:51, 8 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Template:Netherlands 2002 WRWC and two similar roster navboxes edit

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 15:56, 9 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Navboxes with 100% red links. These are used in a single article, essentially as unsourced roster tables. I recommend copying the unsourced lists to the article's talk page before deleting these navboxes from the article. – Jonesey95 (talk) 11:58, 2 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete all per nom. Clearly useless for navigation. Articles first then navbox if required. Creating a navbox when there are no articles to navigate between makes no sense. A look at 2002 Women's Rugby World Cup squads and similar articles indicates that other navboxes probably ought to be deleted too, eg {{Germany 2002 WRWC}}. Nigej (talk) 13:13, 2 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete, unlikely that the redlinks meet WP:N to ever become articles. CRwikiCA talk 13:30, 3 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete Per nom. Rugbyfan22 (talk) 19:21, 3 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Template:Flag legend edit

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 15:56, 9 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Created in 2009. Used in one discussion page showing its creation, but never adopted. Subst and delete. – Jonesey95 (talk) 11:46, 2 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Necrowretch edit

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 15:56, 9 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Only two articles to link to (others were redirected and removed for failing WP:NALBUMS); no need for a navigational template when both albums link to the other in the infobox. Ss112 07:51, 2 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

If removing the template makes sense by all means do it, I've not been heavily active on updating articles and the template for this band for quite some time, although I'm sure I could at least expand the template to include relevant information to it.--Jacob Hellflames (talk) 17:59, 2 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Jacob Hellflames: I don't believe the template could be expanded. The band has no other articles to link to (nothing else they have done is notable per WP:NALBUMS), and entries without articles should not be added to navigational templates, as they are for existing links per WP:EXISTING. Ss112 16:28, 3 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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