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Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2022 November 19

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Template:New user article edit

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 16:29, 27 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Pointless template. Most uses (such as the one I removed from Talk:Pregnancy Outcome Prediction (POP) study) are no longer new. New page patrollers are capable of evaluating for themselves whether an article is new and the appropriate level of courtesy to give to the creator. * Pppery * it has begun... 02:37, 19 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Current U.S. representatives from Alabama edit

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The result of the discussion was delete after merging with the articles Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 15:02, 10 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

All are single-use or have just two uses. All should be substituted on respective articles. Based on previous discussions of unused templates like these on July 12 and November 6 these tables should not be on a separate template space since this violates the policy on article content being transcluding through template space. WikiCleanerMan (talk) 01:40, 19 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete all per previous discussions. * Pppery * it has begun... 02:37, 19 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep all as creator. Per the July 12 discussion. I don't see what issue these are causing. Please read the July 12 discussion, as I'm at a place with really bad internet connectivity (Special:Diff/1119220089), and will not be able to engage in a lengthy discussion. —CX Zoom[he/him] (let's talk • {C•X}) 09:48, 21 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
You've already been told why these tables should not be in template space. This is clearly article content. All of this can be part of an article without using a transclusion function. These were not created because of article size issues or make it easier to display information. Updates to current representatives to the U.S. Congress can be done so on the respective articles. And you've been told in the July 12 discussion why it's not okay to do so. "Templates should not normally be used to store article text, as this makes it more difficult to edit the content. They should also not be used to "collapse" or "hide" content from the reader." It literally says it on the TMP page, the first bullet point in the guidelines section which you claim it never did. This is one of those times where such template transclusion is not an exception. And for single-use, there is no point in creating a template for only one article. It can just be part of the article. This has been a standard practice for a long time on Wikipedia. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 18:24, 21 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, they aren't supposed to be single use, and I've said that before. Also, as a courtesy please ping on future replies. Thanks! —CX Zoom[he/him] (let's talk • {C•X}) 15:29, 22 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • merge any multi-use ones with the corresponding "XYZ congressional districts" article, wrapped in <section>...</section>, and transclude in the other article. any that are single use, then just merge those with the article. Frietjes (talk) 00:58, 29 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    This one makes sense, I can merge them into a single one say {{Current U.S. representatives|New York}} to transclude the New York table, or Massachusetts for Massachusetts one, etc. —CX Zoom[he/him] (let's talk • {C•X}) 08:34, 30 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    not my preference. merging with the parent article is the way to go, not into another template. Frietjes (talk) 20:45, 30 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    Alright I understand your proposal, my second preference. —CX Zoom[he/him] (let's talk • {C•X}) 21:05, 30 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per previous discussions. Izno (talk) 06:26, 7 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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