Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2012 March 14

March 14

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The result of the discussion was Speedy. Unused, one author who requestd. Rich Farmbrough, 16:51, 19 March 2012 (UTC).[reply]

Template:Latest preview software release/INFOBOX NAME (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

I created this in error. Was meant to be Template:Latest preview software release/LimeSurvey . Lostraven (talk) 21:28, 14 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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2012 NCAA men's soccer standings templates

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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 03:39, 22 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Template:2012 America East men's soccer standings (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:2012 ACC men's soccer standings (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:2012 Atlantic Sun men's soccer standings (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:2012 Atlantic 10 men's soccer standings (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:2012 Big East Blue Division men's soccer standings (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:2012 Big East Red Division men's soccer standings (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:2012 Big South Conference men's soccer standings (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:2012 Big Ten men's soccer standings (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:2012 Big West men's soccer standings (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:2012 Conference USA men's soccer standings (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:2012 Horizon League men's soccer standings (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:2012 Ivy League men's soccer standings (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:2012 Pacific-12 Conference men's soccer standings (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Unused templates. If they are going to serve some future use, perhaps they can be sent to user space instead. StarcheerspeaksnewslostwarsTalk to me 21:22, 14 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 03:39, 22 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Infobox public organisation (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Redundant since it's been reimplemented as a wrapper around {{infobox organization}}. Substitution will convert all existing deployments. Chris Cunningham (user:thumperward) (talk) 20:06, 14 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 03:40, 22 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Emmerdaleminor (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

This template is redundant as the yearly character lists are now included on {{Emmerdale characters}}. JuneGloom Talk 19:54, 14 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete - This is just not needed anymore. Like said above, listed elsewhere in one nice compact template. I never understood the need for all these off-shoot templates when they can be housed in one grouped one. IMO {{Emmerdale characters}} makes it much easier for readers to navigate.Rain the 1 23:00, 14 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 03:40, 22 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Hb team (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Unused utility template, presumably forked from {{fb team}} and abandoned. Co-nom with everything in Category:Hb team templates Spain, a series of templates which all transclude this but are unused themselves. Chris Cunningham (user:thumperward) (talk) 16:15, 14 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 03:41, 22 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Fb finals (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Unused results template which duplicates the likes of {{footballbox}}. Chris Cunningham (user:thumperward) (talk) 16:10, 14 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 03:41, 22 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Hb cl header (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

either a misspelling or an aborted fork. Unused. Chris Cunningham (user:thumperward) (talk) 16:08, 14 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 03:43, 22 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Fb report (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Unused utility template. All useful data points are already contained within other templates, like {{footballbox}}. Chris Cunningham (user:thumperward) (talk) 16:08, 14 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 03:43, 22 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Fb map (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Used on exactly two pages and broken on one of them. Substitution is fine here, as the underlying code is a standard {{location map+}}. Chris Cunningham (user:thumperward) (talk) 16:06, 14 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 03:43, 22 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Assist (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

WP:ICONDECORATION, WP:TRIVIA. Assists are not typically notable enough to include in summaries, and even if they were it wouldn't be in the form of a football boot-shaped smudge. Chris Cunningham (user:thumperward) (talk) 16:02, 14 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 03:44, 22 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Template:National football squad start -2 (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:National football squad start (recent, version 3) (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:National football squad start (recent, version 2) (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:National football squad start (goals, version 3) (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:National football squad player (recent, version 3) (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:National football squad player (recent, version 2) (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:National football squad player (goals, version 3) (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:National football squad player (goals, version 2) (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Unused and unnecessary forks of the {{national football squad start}} system. Chris Cunningham (user:thumperward) (talk) 13:04, 14 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 03:44, 22 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Fb BPL no schedule (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Per this High Court ruling, the primary rationale behind not including fixture lists (their alleged copyright status) is no longer valid. Including fixture lists should be a matter of editorial discretion, and we don't need a disclaimer template. Chris Cunningham (user:thumperward) (talk) 12:10, 14 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

If thats the case then we clearly don't need this. The way i am reading it, does this still not need to be passed by a uk court for a final ruling. Probably a formality though. I may be reading it wrong though.Edinburgh Wanderer 22:34, 14 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Delete — I think this is justification enough for pulling the disclaimer. U+003F? 18:26, 15 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 03:44, 22 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Fsi keys (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Unused bit of glossary. Chris Cunningham (user:thumperward) (talk) 12:01, 14 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 03:45, 22 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Fsu (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Unused and unnecessary. Chris Cunningham (user:thumperward) (talk) 12:00, 14 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 03:45, 22 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Football squad player/captain (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Football squad player/onloanfrom (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Football squad player/onloanto (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Unused and longer than the text it ostensibly standardises. Chris Cunningham (user:thumperward) (talk) 11:56, 14 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 03:45, 22 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Football squad2 assistant manager (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Unused and unnecessary. Chris Cunningham (user:thumperward) (talk) 11:55, 14 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete the ones that are orphaned, no consensus for the rest. Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 03:46, 22 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Football squad player/role/DC (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Football squad player/role/DL (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Football squad player/role/FC (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Football squad player/role/MC (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Football squad player/role/ML (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Football squad player/role/WG (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Football squad player/role/ST (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Football squad player/role/MF FW (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Football squad player/role/GK (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Football squad player/role/DR (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Football squad player/role/DF MF (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Football squad player/role/CF (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Football squad player/role/MR (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Football squad player/role/MF (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Football squad player/role/FW (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Football squad player/role/DM (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Football squad player/role/DF (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Football squad player/role/AM (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Largely unused and wholly unnecessary. This will empty category:association football position templates. Chris Cunningham (user:thumperward) (talk) 11:46, 14 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - Lots of season articles use these templates. 2011-12 St. Mirren F.C. season, 2011-12 Hibernian F.C. season, 2011-12 Heart of Midlothian F.C. season. Adam4267 (talk) 21:20, 14 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
And they shouldn't, per WP:OVERLINK. Chris Cunningham (user:thumperward) (talk) 23:30, 14 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Fair enough but this as a consistent problem not just on the ones mentioned. However they are widely used and to me necessary. A compromise of leaving the generic ones seems fair enough as the majority of those may rarely be used.Edinburgh Wanderer 23:56, 14 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Was this edit[1] to remove this template from Template:Extended football squad player not a bit quick on the draw. Edinburgh Wanderer 21:04, 15 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
It was by request. Furthermore, removing auto-linkage helps to show how little direct use (i.e. not called through another template) these all see. Chris Cunningham (user:thumperward) (talk) 09:43, 18 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
if the main ones are kept then it really should be reinstated. I think its clear most people want it as part of that template. And looking at the request it seems to me it was because it was at TFD. The problem is there is over linking and not linking at all.Edinburgh Wanderer 15:38, 18 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
No, reinstating it simply results in overlinking again. The role can easily be manually linked in the first instance. "I think its clear most people want it as part of that template" is a statement without evidence, let alone a convincing rationale. Chris Cunningham (user:thumperward) (talk) 10:13, 19 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
You removed it without consensus. Its been there since the template was created. Ive reverted you until you get that. And given all comments here were about useful in season articles from this template.Edinburgh Wanderer 14:09, 19 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I agree as a compromise the main ones being kept is fine. When it was linked to that template was anymore of the others in use. I would of thought ST may have been used but thats just a guess.Edinburgh Wanderer 15:38, 18 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not talking about a compromise. I'm talking about a worst-case scenario. All of them should still be deleted, but on the off chance that anyone can convincingly explain why the arguments to deletion are not valid (rather than just chirping in with "it's useful") that would provide some excuse for retaining the ones that are actually in use (all on the same handful of articles, by the way). Chris Cunningham (user:thumperward) (talk) 10:13, 19 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Chris there is no reason to delete the ones that are used. Your rationale of largely unused and unnecessary is no better than the arguments to keep them.Edinburgh Wanderer 14:09, 19 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Edinburgh has a good point. At the very least we should KEEP the four major ones. The others are still helpful because they are specific. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.68.251.245 (talk) 20:25, 15 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • I think it would help to split this TfD, as bulking all 18 templates together is muddying the waters. We seem to have reached a consensus that the 14 unused templates can go. We could then return to the remaining four to discuss if they are "useful" or just "widely used". U+003F? 10:52, 19 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Im not so sure we even have that. Only two you and me have suggested that.Edinburgh Wanderer 14:09, 19 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
You're right. But I don't think we need any consensus to delete the 14 unused templates; WP:TFD#REASONS would suggest that only used templates should be discussed. Whatever the rules are, I think the used and unused templates should be considerded separately. Cheers. U+003F? 14:51, 19 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I don't have any objections to that if no one else does. As you said there are a few others being used but they could be substituted.Edinburgh Wanderer 15:19, 19 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 03:47, 22 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Football squad player/role/ (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Legacy code which no longer does anything but emit a non-breaking space. Chris Cunningham (user:thumperward) (talk) 11:44, 14 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 03:47, 22 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Football squad badge (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Unused, unnecessary, and generally ill-advised. Chris Cunningham (user:thumperward) (talk) 11:40, 14 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 03:47, 22 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Template:National football teams of Europe (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

orphaned and redundant to the per-confederation navboxes that are in use on each team's respective articles. Chris Cunningham (user:thumperward) (talk) 11:23, 14 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 03:48, 22 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Template:National football manager (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:National football managers (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Unused and redundant to other football squad templates. Chris Cunningham (user:thumperward) (talk) 11:18, 14 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 03:42, 22 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Football squad simple start (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Football squad simple player (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Football squad simple mid (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Football squad simple end (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Fork of the {{football squad start}} system intended for articles on clubs at a level where shirt numbers and nationalities are less of an issue. The only article that ever used them was Tranmere Rovers L.F.C., which has now been transitioned back to {{football squad start}}. Ultimately, support for omitting fields can be added to the main template: consensus has been that the number of forks of this sort of template has led to an unwanted level of inconsistency and confusion between editors on how to lay out squad sections in articles. Chris Cunningham (user:thumperward) (talk) 10:52, 14 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 03:41, 22 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Infobox SpongeBob episode (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Deprecated for {{Infobox television episode}}, as unneeded. There were 100 transclusions, some of the SpongeBob SquarePants episode articles have been merged or deleted. JJ98 (Talk / Contributions) 02:52, 14 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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