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November 24

Nehru – Hagia Sophia – First publishing ?

In an article Jawaharlal Nehru refers to mosqueing of Hagia Sophia. The article seems to be written some months after 1935, has been republished as editorial selection for 2 part reprint by Mridula Mukherjee in w:National Herald India :

• Nehru’s Word: A tale of two mosques (17 Oct 2021) &
• Nehru’s Word: The Story of Hagia Sophia (24 Oct 2021)

Requesting help in finding out, when it was first published ,Books or news–media name and the name of publication?

Thanks

Bookku, 'Encyclopedias = expanding information & knowledge' (talk) 00:56, 24 November 2021 (UTC)

Your best bet may be to contact the National Herald with your enquiry, which may pass it on to the historian who selected the piece, for whom I did not find an email address or other channel of contact.  --Lambiam 13:12, 26 November 2021 (UTC)

James Green, illustrator, fl 1880s-1910s

James Green was an interesting chap - an accomplished zoological illustrator and lithographer, working for the Natural History Museum in London, and a pioneer of the use of X-ray photography for zoological research. There's some discussion of him at c:Commons:Village pump/Copyright#J. Green, but we're struggling to find a date of death (VIAF says 1938, but conflates his works and those of others), middle names (if any), education, and so on. He may have been at Wallington, Surrey around 1897.

Can anyone oblige, please? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 17:49, 24 November 2021 (UTC)

[The post to which I replied was removed by User:Jayron32. The 1910 image to which it referred was [1]. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 15:59, 27 November 2021 (UTC) ]

Thank you. The "1910" image (which is new to me) looks like a plate from the 1897 work. I'm not clear where you're seeing that him being in Wallington in 1897 is confirmed? We still need a date of death. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 16:43, 25 November 2021 (UTC)

1897 must have been marked as a very enthousiasting date. Here some other authorised comment on the occasion. --Askedonty (talk) 22:17, 24 November 2021 (UTC)

Circumstantially, there's this guy: Charles James Green, died 1938. Carshalton and Croydon are both very close to Wallington, London (formerly Wallington, Surrey). But really this could be anyone.

This flickr image reveals his colleague James H. Gardiner's street address: St. Kilda, Manor Road, Wallington Surrey. (Written on the back, it would seem.)  Card Zero  (talk) 19:05, 25 November 2021 (UTC)

The last of the ten images in this gallery shows the label with that address had both names. However, [2] puts Green there in 1907; we need someone with access to census records. I've not seen the name Charles used in connection with our subject, anywhere. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 22:28, 25 November 2021 (UTC)

1901 Census St Kilda, Manor Road Danbury Terrace, Wallington - James Green, married, aged 42 (born about 1859), Artist and Draughtsman, Born Camberwell, Surrey. MilborneOne (talk) 17:43, 27 November 2021 (UTC)

1911 Census 17 Warminster Road South Norwood S E, Croydon - James Green, married, aged 52, Artist and lithographer, born Camberwell. MilborneOne (talk) 17:45, 27 November 2021 (UTC)

Possibly the James Green that died in the Croydon district in Q4 1929 aged 69. MilborneOne (talk) 17:50, 27 November 2021 (UTC)

The Croydon Times lists the burial of James Green, aged 69, at Mitcham Road Cemetery on 1 January 1930, a resident of South Norwood. MilborneOne (talk) 18:15, 27 November 2021 (UTC)

Thank you, MilborneOne; very helpful, as always. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 11:29, 28 November 2021 (UTC)