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April 21

Where is Raoul Berger buried?

Does anyone here know where Raoul Berger is buried? I couldn't find his grave or his burial place anywhere online. Futurist110 (talk) 02:20, 21 April 2019 (UTC)

I have no idea, but I point out that he might not have been buried. --76.69.46.228 (talk) 04:11, 21 April 2019 (UTC)

Yeah, that's also certainly possible. Is there any information on this anywhere online? Or was it something that his family wanted to keep private?

I don't see him at Findagrave.com. The best I can do at the moment is Boston Globe, Oct 1, 2000, p.54, where it says "Raoul Berger... Memorial service Thursday Oct 12 at 3 pm in the Concord [Massachusetts] Academy Chapel... Arrangements by Joseph Dee and Son Funeral Service, Concord." That's from Newspapers.com, a pay site. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 04:22, 21 April 2019 (UTC)

So, there was a memorial service to Berger at the Concord Academy. He isn't actually buried there, though--is he? Futurist110 (talk) 06:04, 21 April 2019 (UTC)

Have you tried contacting either the Academy or the funeral home? Here's the web page for the funeral home.[1] They have a "contact us" tab. I didn't find any Bergers in the obituary search. Probably too far back for them to have it online. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 09:17, 21 April 2019 (UTC)

Yeah, that seems like a good idea. I could do this in the near future. Futurist110 (talk) 22:19, 22 April 2019 (UTC)

From our article, you wouldn't even know he was dead... ——SerialNumber54129 12:02, 21 April 2019 (UTC)

The first line gives it away. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 15:26, 21 April 2019 (UTC)

@Baseball Bugs: If you spent a little more time writing content and less time trolling the Desks, you would know that, per MOS:LEAD, the lead should cover the main aspects of the article. It is bizarre to say the least that the death of a person is not covered in the article about that person. Goodbye. ——SerialNumber54129 09:08, 25 April 2019 (UTC)

And if you spent more time researching and less time attacking other users, you could improve the article yourself. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 12:57, 25 April 2019 (UTC)

Yeah, I really don't see what the point of him being an ass to you was. Futurist110 (talk) 03:59, 29 April 2019 (UTC)

Since that funeral home does cremations, there's always the possibility he was cremated. But if you call the funeral home, they might (or might not) tell you. I say "might not" because technically it's none of our business. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 02:37, 22 April 2019 (UTC)

Judaism

Likely trolling
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This wiki topic doesn’t appear to define the main —current and past Universally distinct qualifier - The religion and the people do not believe Jesus is the messiah. This has to be by design and is wrong. This should be in the first 500 words on this topic and suggests that Wikipedia is not impartial or authoritative. — Preceding unsigned comment added by KDDavec (talk • contribs) 06:35, 21 April 2019 (UTC) — KDDavec (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. What Reliable sources can you cite in support of your assertion that "the main —current and past Universally distinct qualifier - [of Judaism is that] The religion and the people do not believe Jesus is the messiah."? To me (a non-Jew and non-Christian) this seems like something a poorly educated Christian might think from a self-centered viewpoint, but not what Jews and other non-Christians would generally take to be "the main universally distinct qualifier" (if there has to be one). {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 2.122.2.132 (talk) 06:55, 21 April 2019 (UTC) "The religion and the people do not believe Jesus is the messiah. " Along with most of planet Earth's population. Does that mean that humanity consists mostly of Jews? Dimadick (talk) 07:05, 21 April 2019 (UTC) Jews also do not believe that Muhammad was the one true messenger of Allah or that there are thousands of contending Hindu gods and goddesses or that studying the teachings of the Buddha allows people to transcend human suffering. Jews do not think too highly of the unusual teachings of Joseph Smith or L. Ron Hubbard. Why emphasize their thoughts about one particular Jesus? Cullen328 Let's discuss it 07:35, 21 April 2019 (UTC) KDDavec -- Few general belief systems are preferentially described by their adherents as merely being against something, rather than positively (in terms of what they actually do believe in). Descriptions such as "Anti-X" are more appropriate for a limited-purpose political movement (anti-smoking etc) than for a religion (see Talk:Nontrinitarianism/Archive 1#Non- or anti- trinitarian). Furthermore, Judaism existed for at least 600 years before Jesus was born... AnonMoos (talk) 07:51, 21 April 2019 (UTC)

Burials at Notre Dame de Paris

Where was Isabella of Hainault buried in Notre Dame? Is her remain still there after her exhumation in 1858. According to Category:Burials at Notre Dame de Paris, she seems to be the only French royal buried here instead at St. Denis or other sites. Why was she buried here? The article Notre Dam3 de Paris also has the category Category:Burial sites of the Pippinids but does not name any Pippinids who are buried here. Is this a mistake? KAVEBEAR (talk) 11:14, 21 April 2019 (UTC)

I don't know if Isabella is still there, but apparently everyone whose grave was rediscovered post-Revolution was moved to a crypt under the nave. For everyone else whose grave sites were known at the time of the Revolution, at Notre Dame, St-Denis, or wherever else, they were all dug up and the remains were destroyed. So there are no Pippinids buried there now, but there used to be. Adam Bishop (talk) 18:35, 21 April 2019 (UTC)

Still are there actually any named Pippinids once buried here? —KAVEBEAR (talk) 18:54, 21 April 2019 (UTC)

Worshipping ancient Greek or Roman gods

Are there any recognised sects that still to this day worship ancient Greek or Roman gods? Or, for that matter, Egyptian, Sumerian, Babylonian, etc? -- Jack of Oz ^{[pleasantries]} 21:12, 21 April 2019 (UTC)

- for starters see Hellenism (religion) and Modern Paganism and Polytheistic reconstructionism - Epinoia (talk) 21:20, 21 April 2019 (UTC)

JackofOz -- The phrase "to this day" might imply a persisting continuity which hasn't really existed. The knowledge of how to read both Sumero-Akkadian cuneiform texts and Egyptian hieroglyphic/hieratic/demotic texts was lost in the early centuries A.D., and not regained until the 19th century. In both Egypt and Mesopotamia, there was a change from paganism to other religions (mainly to Coptic Christianity in Egypt, but to a complex mixture in Mesopotamia) even before the rise of Islam, so that earlier polytheistic religions have basically been buried under two separate cultural waves of massive religious changes... AnonMoos (talk) 22:48, 21 April 2019 (UTC)

Thank you. -- Jack of Oz ^{[pleasantries]} 22:27, 22 April 2019 (UTC)

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