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The list was promoted by PresN via FACBot (talk) 00:26, 1 December 2018 (UTC) [1].[reply]

Meghan Trainor discography

Nominator(s): N Ø 07:09, 17 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I am nominating this for featured list because I believe it meets the FL criteria. I've made sure that only the most reliable sources are used in this list, and it is modeled after Taylor Swift discography, which is also an important FL about one of Trainor's peers as a singer-songwriter. One of the primary reasons this list's first FL failed was because Trainor was a new artist and I was blocked. Both the problems are clearly fixed now.--N Ø 07:09, 17 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Support from Lirim.Z

Resolved comments from Lirim.Z

Comments from Lirim.Z

Is there another picture? The picture used in the artist article shouldn't be used in the discography.
Don't use Musicline for German charts, rather use this
Australian charts: [2]
"Dear Future Husband" was released as Trainor's third single, and was certified triple platinum by the RIAA. "Dear Future Husband" reached number 14 on the Billboard Hot 100, becoming Trainor's third consecutive top 15 single.[8] Trainor's fourth single, "Like I'm Gonna Lose You", which featured John Legend, was certified quadruple platinum by the RIAA. It peaked at number eight on the Billboard Hot 100, becoming Trainor's third top-10 song.[8] It also reached number one in Australia and New Zealand. To support the album, two more singles were released; "Dear Future Husband" and "Like I'm Gonna Lose You" featuring John Legend. Both peaked in the top 15 on the Billboard Hot 100 and are certified multi-platinum in the United States. Latter also reached the pole position in Australia and New Zealand.
and became one of the best-selling singles of all-time with sales of over 11 million units internationally. Add "(As of 2015)."
Is there any information about the third studio album, that could be used in the lead?

--Lirim

Support.--Lirim | Talk 01:58, 24 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Comments from The Rambling Man

See MOS:NUM re: cats and dogs for your intro sentence, all numbers or all words, but not a mixture.
Trainor is mentioned four times in four sentences, mix it up a little, sometimes with "she" or similar.
" When Trainor signed with...", "After signing with Epic, Trainor's..." repetitive.
"one of the best-selling singles of all-time ." remove space before full stop.
"All About That Bass" was certified diamond ... why start a new para when this song and its sales were being discussed in the previous para?
And link "certified" appropriately.
""Dear Future Husband" and "Like I'm Gonna Lose You", which featured American singer John Legend." did they both feature Legend, that's how this could be read.
"reached the pole position " no thanks, just "number one" or something less tabloidy.
" It was certified double platinum by the RIAA.", " It was certified triple platinum by the RIAA.", "The album was certified platinum by the RIAA. "... repetitive and needless small sentences, could be creatively merged with each preceding sentence.
Which territory is the release date of each album relevant to?
According to her MySpace page, all three of her independent releases came out a day before what you have in the table.
What's referencing all the various singles which didn't chart?
Notes in the Writing credits section do not need the bullets.
Avoid spaced hyphens per MOS:DASH, I count 13 in the ref titles etc.

The Rambling Man (talk) 17:07, 9 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

All addressed. All her albums were released on the same day in every territory so the release dates refer to all of them. As for the independent albums, pardon me if I misunderstood something but the release dates are all correct according to her Myspace? Thank you so much for weighing in, I hope to have your support for this FL in the near future!--N Ø 18:36, 9 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Check out this link then, from your reference. The Rambling Man (talk) 18:52, 9 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I believe its the same link. The release dates for Meghan Trainor, I'll Sing with You, and Only 17 are respectively given as December 25, 2009, January 31, 2011, and September 14, 2011 on her MySpace page. These are the ones that are currently listed in the article.--N Ø 19:00, 9 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Edit:The release date for her albums are also confirmed here, here and here if you prefer this website!--N Ø 19:09, 9 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I apologise, I meant her current MySpace page, not that archive you have. The Rambling Man (talk) 19:21, 9 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Oh! I wouldn't trust the current page tbh, because it only has Only 17 listed on it with no mention of her first 2 albums. We have the archive as reliable proof of when the albums were actually released. After her major-label debut, her new label tried to cover up all mentions of her independent albums to market Title as her debut, but the new information thats currently being shown on the page is inaccurate (as also proved by discogs). This is one of those rare cases where archived information is more reliable than what it has been changed to by her new management.--N Ø 19:29, 9 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

But if this is gonna be a dealbreaker for the FL then we can just remove the dates and keep the release years (which can be sourced by NRJ as well as Forbes).--N Ø 19:53, 9 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hey, The Rambling Man Hate to bother you again and again but can you indicate if you would prefer to keep release dates that are currently in the article (aka in the archive of her Myspace page) or remove them to just keep the years (which are sourced by reliable, secondary sources)? Your opinion is very important for me.--N Ø 05:20, 13 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I would acknowledge the issue with a footnote, i.e. a note to say although her official MySpace page gives slightly different date, most sources give the release dates as you have them in the article. The Rambling Man (talk) 16:37, 16 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Added hatnote.--N Ø 16:48, 16 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Support from Aoba47

I would revise this sentence (When the singer-songwriter signed with Epic Records in February 2014, her three self-produced albums were pulled from circulation.) to (These self-produced albums were pulled from circulation after she signed with Epic Records in February 2014) as I believe it would improve the wording.
For this part (She initially released three independent albums:…), I would revise it to something like (She self-released the albums:…) as saying “three independent albums” is slightly repetitive with the previous sentence and makes the prose less engaging. I also think it is important to emphasize that she self-released them as I was initially uncertain if she did that or did with a small record label when I first read the lead.
I would revise this sentence (The lead single from Trainor's second major-label studio album, Thank You, called "No" was released on March 4, 2016, and charted at number three on the Billboard Hot 100, earning a double platinum certification from the RIAA.) to (On March 4, 2016, Trainor released “No” as the lead single from her second major-label studio album, Thank You. The song charted at number three on the Billboard Hot 100, earning a double platinum certification on the RIAA.) as I think the original sentence would benefit from being split in two.

Great work with the list. I will support this for promotion once my comments are addressed. Aoba47 (talk) 19:08, 13 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Implemented all the changes.--N Ø 19:44, 13 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for addressing everything. I support this for promotion. Aoba47 (talk) 21:09, 13 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Support from BeatlesLedTV

Support – Looks good. Great job! Quick question: The sales from her albums are over 2 years old now; should they be updated? BeatlesLedTV (talk) 00:40, 14 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. I've tried looking for newer sales figures but reliable industry sources like Billboard and Forbes never updated Title's numbers since 2015.--N Ø 06:52, 14 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Ian Rose This has been open for over a month, has several supports and no opposes. Do we have enough consensus for closure?--N Ø 11:50, 24 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Pinging Giants2008 since Ian seems to be inactive.--N Ø 11:12, 26 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Ian is active, but doesn't do any work at the featured list process. However, as with FAC, this article will require a source review before it can be promoted. Giants2008 (Talk) 02:52, 27 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Source review passed; promoted. --Pres N 05:33, 30 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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